Vinay JI ??World Population : Saamkhya explanation 12/5- 87 B

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Dear Vinay Ji,

 

I have two queries for you:

 

 

1)

VJ wrote:

" but I have an ancient Vedic technique which clearly

says that after the downfall of Christians a period of muslim hegemony will

follow. "

 

What is this technique in simple terms( I mean a a) formula b)

mechanism/model..etc) ? If you could elaborate

 

The above pattern of event has already happened in the past...

 

This will not happen again...

 

2) Did you get time to tabulate rain data from 2006- as we discussed last time?

 

If I could have a very precise answer- it would help a ton.

 

Thanks.

 

Punkajj

 

 

, " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan

wrote:

>

> Wow! Very revealing indeed!!

>

> RR

>

>

> , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> >

> > Prashant Ji,

> >

> > There is no fear for human life. Various species of humans are differences

created by racists of Europe who cannot think otherwise. It is foolish to search

for fossils of one or two billion years ago. Pralaya after a mahayuga wipes out

all traces of previous cultures.

> >

> > Modern industrial civilization is a transient phase in history. It is about

to end. It does not mean humans will end. It only means human-like creatures are

about to leave this beautiful planet who are not even ashamed of declaring

homosexuality to be " natural " . Mother Nature is going to take her revenge on

such unnatural human-like creatures. Last mandala of Rgveda contains the

Aghamarshana Sukta which is recited at the start of sandhyaa-vandana. Its

closing line is " Dhaataa yathaa poorvam akalpayat " , which means all Kalpas are

similar. life is eternal and Earth and her life-sustaining resources are

eternal. I annually send rain forecasts made from prithvi Chakra to 615 weather

scientists. I have analyses past data of two centuries plus hundreds of other

data related to pressure and temperature. I never saw any anomaly. Everything is

happening according to predetermined astrological structures. Hence, things like

global warming are transitory events.

> >

> > The 87 Billion fugure can never be sustained by Earth. Besides, if Saamkhya

is wrong what is the alternative, what is the name of 14th element ?

> >

> > You ask " How can we reduce it " . It has already stopped, abruptly. You will

see evidence in next census in 2011, when all projections will prove to be

overestimates. I now think I should send the detailed file in file section (it

is only few pages in length).

> >

> > The crecent nations will bring about next Pralaya. Sometimes I fear

population will not grow but the proportion of muslims will grow. I do not know

any formula for computing this exactly, but I have an ancient Vedic technique

which clearly says that after the downfall of Christians a period of muslim

hegemony will follow.

> >

> > Population explaosion has not always resulted in poverty. The greatest known

population explosion in whole human hiastory is of Britons, who grew from 5

millions 4 centuries ago to nearly 80 times over now, India (+Pak & BD) grew 13

times (equal to world average) and even muslim countries grew by 20-30 times at

most (excepting Java which grew by 60 times), eg Pakistan grew by 18 times and

Bangadesh by 13 times. But Bangadesh was a Hindu majority region then !

> >

> > You are wrong in believing that Bangladeshi muslims are practising family

planning. They have already exported 45 million surplus population to India,

which secular govts at Kolkata and delhi clandestinely welcome for short term

political reasons, oblivious of long term dangers.

> >

> > You say " Ratan tata said Indias greatest enemy is its pouplation " . But you

must know that the community of Ratan Tata is worried about its dwindling

numbers and is trying to maintain its numbers frantically, while teaching

population control to others? I am against use of condoms & c for population

control . Brahmacharya is the solution. But it needs right education, right

media, right films, etc, which is not possible by present human specie.

> >

> > -VJ

> > =========== ========

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@>

> >

> > Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:11:06 PM

> > Re: World Population : Saamkhya explanation 12/5- 87 B

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Vinay ji

> >

> > I don't doubt the Vedic/hindu time spans but we have also to see probably

it will lie ununhabited by mankind may be some other forms of life that may feed

on the rot left behind by human destruction and the extinction the scanvengers

may be alive I mean ants, moths, white ants eagles humans may surely vanish much

faster many NOT LAST THE 10 CYCLES SURELY i MEAN AS U NEED WATER, FOOD, SPACE

FREE FROM POLLUTUON global warming already has shown how climate in changing no

season is on time so is the extreme weather patterns either too much or too

little rainfal so crops suffer

> > and BIO-FUEL Farms in USA using maize as fuel, later some other form may be

used foond instead of feeding the ever expanding pouplation is becoming a fule

more land goes to farming than forests that shrink by the hour. where will

nature starts is preservation, re-creation surely it is too fast paced I am ok

with the 87 Billion fugure at least can be possible in probably the 6th or 7th

cycle

> >

> > my personal belief if 13th element is trye then 2 cycles max rest is wasted

time -left for scavanger life forms, if 5-7 may be then it must be between 35-60

Billion at least some fast track devolutuion

> >

> > if it is 10 cycles by some remote chance then 87 is possible. the earth

can't sustain its current pouplation itself is a fact but how can we reduce it

> >

> > only man culls kangaroos, elephants, pigs, whales as their numbers seem more

at anypoint for them, but no human rights organisation will allow human down

sizing.

> >

> > I KNOW JAPNESSE WOMEN HAVE BY AND LARGE SAID NO TO FAMILIES 65^ FEEL BEING

SINGLE OR IN A RELATIONSHIP MINUS CHILDREN IS OK FOR THE, SO IS CHINAS 1 FAMILY

1 CHILD

> >

> > but what about the crecent nations?

> >

> > who are a 1.7 Billion already and feel threatned all the time even by a

murmer, or whisper

> >

> > they still follow the principles laid to them at start to propogate

themselves in multiple wives, and doznes of children from each

> >

> > sadly they don't realise they r making their own people suffer in poor

health, less eduication and employment opportunities and take to any form to

survve even illegal ones which is again sin according to their good religious

laws a catch 22 situation

> > TAMIL NADU, which had less than 10% muslim pouplation in 2001 censeus has

sown a significant rise SOME DISTRICTS HAVE grown faster than most Islamic

nations and stand at 70^ cencus figures are there and published. N, AAND SOTUTH

ARCOT DISTS for example.

> > I really wish they follow Bangladesh, Iran

> > s ways where they have smaller families now a days. healthy, educated,

quality that make them self sufficient, confident, proud is important, I have

nothing against them but only yhr the change they need to take up and make their

followers more succesful if in smaller nos as china is doing now. v strict

control on family size has a quality pouplation worh 1 billion plus no army, no

force inworld can even dream of touching or even scratching their skin.

> > a worthy model in 30-40 yrs of growth. with pouplation limitations clearly

set

> >

> > Ratan tata said Indias greatest enemy is its pouplation eats away its growth

in faster pace than real growth which is good but can't keep pace with the ecer

expanding poulation.

> >

> > Prashant

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ >

> >

> > Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:21:51 PM

> > Re: World Population : Saamkhya explanation 12/5- mis...

> >

> > Prashant ji,

> > I could not understand what you mean by saying " NOT 10 CYCLES surely " .

> >

> > Why surely ? How can we say Hindu time cycles of 432000 years of Kaliyuga is

wrong, before we see some proof of its falsity ?

> >

> > Secondly, 14th element will need a mximum population of 14! which is over

87 billions. No demographer thinks Earth can sustain so many humans. Hence, 13!

is the ultimate limit. For factual evidence, you will need to study mt article

on population which I do not want to upload on an astrological forum, although

it is related to prediction of population, because some persons do not like such

discussions and feel disturbed by such " nonsense " in otherwise sanctified

fora.

> >

> > -VJ

> > ============ ========= = ====

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

> >

> > Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:46:22 AM

> > Re: World Population : Saamkhya explanation 12/5- mis...

> >

> > Vinay ji

> >

> > I was expecting only ur last line nothing else

> >

> > // we need 14th and 15th elements in kaarana shareera. // to get any

realistic picture may be the no of 10 cycles u said can be squeezed in 1 or two

cycles also

> >

> > may be project based on the 14, 15th elements and also the depleting natural

resources at a v alarming rate

> >

> > and if we start to use sea water as fuel u can expect much more faster

devolution provess with oceans also drying up and salt deposits piling up

several landscapes that heat up the environment even faster to make it like Kuja

like HOT atmosphere and fry out all living spicies in no time.

> >

> > but NOT 10 CYCLES surely

> >

> > prashant

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ >

> >

> > Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:12:34 AM

> > Re: World Population : Saamkhya explanation 12/5- mis...

> >

> > Prashant Ji,

> > You need not wait for 50 years. I will attain 50 18 months before you, I

know you will see proofs within a decade. You say " nothing will stop it from

being surpassed " , which is based on present projections of past long term

trends, but these projections do not take into account recent trends which

clearly inficate a brake on overall growth.

> >

> > If " nothing will stop it from being surpassed " , then Saamkhya is wrong and

we need 14th and 15th elements in kaarana shareera. i am sending the detailed

population file to RR ji through email.

> >

> > -vj

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

> >

> > Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:27:27 AM

> > Re: World Population : Saamkhya explanation 12/5- mis...

> >

> > Vinay ji

> >

> > well I have not misunderstood and may be u have to re-read the same lines

again that u just said superimpose it with our traditional wisdom

> >

> > the lines that befit it will be

> >

> > different species keep coming and going , every day many species face

extinction

> >

> > Human life is Durbhara says our vedas, purunas so a living being takes a

human form after a few thousands of other forms of lives be it bacteria,

insects, animals, plants birds, then human and in this probably all the species

that r geting extinct may be on the promotional level to next level of births

say bacteria may be becoming insects, insects may be becoming animals or plants.

> > animals may be becoing humans....

> >

> > but what matters finally is the high and low limits that u quoted and as I

suspected and RRji too felt

> >

> > it may bea Optimum level but nothing will stop it from being surpassed and

to cut it back size or reverseit in 10 cycles we need only NUKE-BOMBING in diff

parts of the world and higher level of WMD each time to loose a lot of puplation

and again catch up 10 times. no pandemic, epidemic can

> >

> > the swine fle can target 2 billion pouplation it is feared by past estimates

that is 1/3rd human pouplatiuon of today ONLY IF IT HAPPENS it fits ur statement

else no, so pl post when and how the numbers get rediced if any in the next 50

yrs that is ur and my OPTIMUM LIFE TIME.

> >

> > I AM fast reaching 50 by 2011 Aug so another 50 or optimum of 120 [odds v

hight for most of us]

> > so any natural pouplation reversal model, time is wlecome news

> > as global resources are bing fast abused by existing pouplation will we have

enouh to EAT, DRINK, WEAR, SPACE TO LIVE, AIR TO BREATHE IS A tough ask even for

the next 50-100 yrs

> > GANGA ITSELF WILL DRY up in less than 50 yrs Himalyan glaciers r already

fast evpourating so where will water that sustains life in the Hindi belt of

India will we have most o N India almost extinct by that time? or have sea water

desalination plants pumping water to Himalayas ?

> > and N Indian cities

> >

> > Ganga is fast becoming a Nullah from a gigantic river. and surely our

politicians will give puttas to the vote banks of the drying river banks, river

beds apart from grabbing the max for themselves. no catchment ot water flow

space will be left.

> >

> > THIS TREND WE HAVE SEEN ALREADYT IN MANY CITIES WITH LAKES, WATER BODIES

LANDS BEING used as resedential colonies by state housing boards themselves. no

ground water re-charging possible.

> >

> > will Kaliyuga last the distance I am sure we may never need 10 cycles 1st

max 2nd is long enough.

> >

> > best wishe

> >

> > prashant

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ >

> >

> > Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:53:27 AM

> > Re: World Population : Saamkhya explanation 12/5

> >

> > Prashant ji,

> >

> > You have misunderstood the whole point. Human population has a lower limit

of 3.63 millions and an upper limit of 6227 millions, and one cycle od

population explosion and implosion is od 43200 years, which means Kaliyuga must

see ten cucles.

> >

> > Why you see population growing linearly ? Even scientists say one specie

comes, grows and vanishes, then another comes and goes and so on. No specie is

permanent.

> >

> > You do not believe in the cyclic theory of Kaala exponded in Puranas and

jyotisha siddhantas, and see population growth as a linear unending phenomenon.

Please try to understand ancient point of view. Whether it is right or wrong

will be proved within a decade when actual census reports are published. At

present you are misled by projections (estimates) which are not actual

headcounts.

> >

> > -VJ

> > ============ === =======

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

> >

> > Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:18:31 AM

> > Re: World Population : Saamkhya explanation 12/5

> >

> > Vinay ji,

> >

> > a v informative post and interesting reading and when it ends by saying

Kaliyuga end is far away and by then what is the chance of pouplation

stablization as u say even if the population moves one step forward and 1000

steps backward surely it will not be 7 billion but may be 7000000

Billions-theoritica lly well this number is symbolic or rythic not a projection

by any means.

> >

> > prashant

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ >

> >

> > Monday, May 11, 2009 9:36:29 PM

> > Re: World Population : Saamkhya explanation

> >

> > Prashant ji,

> >

> > You are too curious. I am supplying one of the reasons why 6227 millions and

no other figure, on the condition that I have no time for another useless

controversy. This 'reason " is rooted in ancient Saamkhya darshana, which Lord

Krishna eulogized as the culmination of Knowledge ( " na hi saamkhya samam

jnaanan, na hi yuga samam balam " ).

> >

> > There are two basic entities : Prakriti and Purusha. Purusha is pure

Consciousness and intrinsically indivisible, although individual manifestations

of purusha entertain illusions of separateness by dint of their bondage to flesh

as a result of their past karmas ensuing from desires. Saamkhya is philosophy of

the liberated souls, and therefore does not differentiate individual soul from

the Universal spirit, and labels both under a single term Jna, for which many

ignorant dvaitvaadins charged Saamkhya of atheism.

> >

> > Prakriti, on the other hand, has 23 constituents, apart from itself. On one

side, it has panch-mahabhootas (prithvi, jala...) and their five tan-maatraas

(roopa, rasa, gandha, sparsha, shabda). Remaing 13 elements for the kaarana

shareera and are therefore called karana (instruments) . There are three

antah-karanas : buddhi, ahamkaara and mana, and teh baahya-karanas : five

karma-indriyas and five jnaana-indriyas.

> >

> > The bhautika body does not accompany the soul after death. But the 13

elements accompany the soul from time immemorial, and will continue to accompany

till final moksha.

> >

> > It is this kaarana-shareera which distinguises one jeeva from another.

Astrologers know that even twins have some dofference in their charts.

Similarly, all kaarana shareeras must have distinctive features to distinguish

one jeeva from other. These distinctive features are of two types. One type is

proportion of sins and virtues, which are stored in the form of desires with

indriyas as Gita says. Birth into human yoni is caused when sins and virtues are

approximately balanced with each other. Other type of distinctive features is

related to uniqueness of a jeeva within a particular yoni. Since there are 13

constituent elements of kaarana shareera which takes a body during rebirth,

there can be Factorial 13 (=13!) number of different distinctive combinations of

these 13 elements.

> >

> > To put it otherwise, a language with 13 letters in its alphabet will have a

maximum number of 13! different words in its language, on the condition that

all words must have all 13 elements and every individual word must be unique in

the sequence of these 13 letters.

> >

> > 13! is equal to 1 * 2 * 3 ..... *12 * 13 = 6,627,020,800 , or nearly

6227 millions.

> >

> > Sequence of 13 elements, with their unique proportions of sins and virtues,

determines the overall character of a person and it is something like a

translation of birthtime horoscope in another language. It is the actual GENETIC

code, wnich is non-physical and cannot be deciphered by biologists, but the

physical/chemical/ biological genetic code is a result of this non-physical

genetic code.

> >

> > In this sequence, if antah-karana elements take precedence and are pilots,

the person will be saaatvika and pious. But if the karma organ phallus occupies

the driving seat, the person will become a sex maniac, irrespective of other

good or bad qualities.

> >

> > During satyuga, antah-karana elements took precedence. Hence, Buddhi

(saatvika in-tellect capable of listening to in-tuition, different from modern

Machiavellian intelligence which is actually extelligence) was foremost leader,

followed by Ahamkaara and then my Mana (the egency of Samkalpa). These three

elements emained fixed in sequence, and only 10 indriyas could change places in

the genetic code. Hence, population was limited to 10!, or to 3,628,800 when

modern sub-specie of Homo Sapiens started evolving (actually devolving) in the

year 40000 BCE.

> >

> > One khanda-kalpa is of 43200 years, 42000 years of avasarpini (devolution)

and 1200 years of utsarpini (evolution). In 2000 AD (Saura Makara Samkraanti)

our avasarpini kaala-khanda ended. During its 42000 years of devolution,

population and entire world history moved along a logarithmic timescale based on

ten defined by terrestrial loxodrome which is the path on Earth traversed by

successive eclipses during millenia. Logarithmic base of ten meant population

rose by one factorial point during one point on log scale. Hence, 42000 years

befor 2000 AD, population was at 10!, but 4200 years before 2000 AD population

rose to 11! or 40 millions in 2200 BC which demographers accept. And 420 years

befor 2000 AD, human population reached 12! or 479 millions in 1580 AD ;

demographers give estimates around 480 millions.

> >

> > After that the curve of population growth slowed down gradually, because 13!

is the Time Bomb for extinction of human race, which Nature strives to prevent

through various peaceful means like rise in impotency or unwillingness to have

children as well as through wars, diseases, etc.

> >

> > At the time of return journey of Comet Hare Paap (Hale Bopp), 4.2 years

before 14th Jan 2000 AD , human population was equal to 5784634179 , given by

following equation :

> >

> > -1! + 2! - 3! + 4! - 5! + 6! - 7! + 8! - 9! + 10! - 11! + 12! - 13! =

> >

> > -1 + 2 - 6 + 24 - 120 + 720 - 5040 + 40320 - 362880 + 3628800 - 39916800 +

479001600 - 6227020800

> >

> > When you put these terms in a statistical Series, you get Sum = 57846 lakhs

which was actual population in the beginning of Nov 1995, 4.2 years before D-day

of 14 Jan 2000 AD.

> >

> > This population was short of 13! by 4424 lakhs. They were deviants, who

deviated from norms. Half of them deviated towards virtues, or at least rejected

to abide by the rules of Kaliyugi society, and the other half rejected all

morality and were uplifted (or downlifted) by D-day. These 2212 lakh sinners

were Doomsdayers who raised a great hue and cry over impending Doomsday in 2000

AD. Instead of repenting and expiating for their sins, they tried to save

others, and went headlong to Hell which their perverted brains imagined to be

Next Higher World. Hence, world population on 14 Jan 2000 was 6005827490 at the

time of Saurpakshiya Makara Samkraanti.

> >

> > Gregorian reform changed the onset of Christian calendar from Saurpakshiya

Makara Samkraanti which was Jan 1 prior to reforms in 1582 AD.

> >

> > 420 years before 2000 AD was a turning point in world history when 13th

factorial of population unfolded, after which Renaissance finally triumphed,

physical science and materialism suppressed astrology and religion, and pirates

looted the whole planet to bring about an Industrial Revolution, converting

farmers into labourers.

> >

> > When this 13th factorial was near its culmination, the last indriya upastha

(phallus) became free to take leadership roles. Homosexuality was even legalized

in many materially " advanced " societies. Even traditional societies became open

to free sex & c, forgetting that sex was meant for procreation and not for

entertainment. Scientists say Homo Sapiens evolved out of vegetarian primate

stock, but non-veg diet became a norm among the majority of those who could

afford, including most of the scientists. To be anti-natural in all walks of

life became a sign of progress at this 13! stage.

> >

> > After such (carnal) knowledge, what forgivance !(-Waste Land). Extinction of

in-tuition and of in-telligence, telepathy, religion, piety, innocence, etc, and

consequent extinction of libido and potency as well. Human potency has reduced

to half during past five decades, which is a sign of impending extinction.

> >

> > But nothing to worry about. The Devolutionary phase of avasarpini is over,

and evolutionary phase of utsarpini has just begun. Real Pralaya is 2.35

billions of years away, and even khanda pralaya at the end of Kaliyuga is 426891

years away.

> >

> > If anyone thinks modern unnatural man is capable of evolving into a better

specie, it is a wishful figment of imagination. Species do not evolve

automatically. Mortals will never see the hands of Mother Nature, Who oversees

this miracle of Evolution, which we turn into Devolution.

> >

> > Nine years ago, an article like this would have invited threats and

> > bullets from prophets of Doomsday, but now I do not expect more than

> > some mild personal remarks or perhaps abuses. So much evolution has

> > already taken place during nine years of utsarpini !

> >

> > I will not engage into any controversy. Those who differ will get proofs in

due course of time.

> >

> > -Vinay Jha

> > ============ ======== =======

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

> >

> > Monday, May 11, 2009 7:29:02 PM

> > Re: World Population.. .?

> >

> > Dear Inder,

> >

> > tru it is heartening to note that and we r aware from time to time the Bhoo

Devi will do its best to restore quilibrium or balance of forces in the world.

> >

> > but this limit of 6227 Billion sounds a bit interesting and want to know why

this no and nothing more or less....

> > and in what form will nature cut its nos to size

> >

> > the bird flu, swine flu, trunamis, terrorism have v little contribution on

the numbers game...

> > and with ever expanding W asian pouplation across the stan nations it is

amazing to see it really happen.

> >

> > Prashant

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Inder <indervohra2001@ .co. in>

> >

> > Monday, May 11, 2009 5:51:43 PM

> > Re: World Population.. .?

> >

> > Dear friends,

> > This prediction about human population getting ultimately limited to 6227

Millions is very intersting and soothing.

> > It would provide much relief to people[like me] worrying about Global

Warming and cosequent bad effects.

> > Inder

> >

> > , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...>

wrote:

> > >

> > > RR JI,

> > >

> > > You will certainlly get " some delicious 'kheer' pudding (arising within

??) ! Let us see what we get next ...! "

> > >

> > >

> > > You will see concrete evidence of 100% accurate method. I need some time

to put it on internet. It is another point whether VJ or RR ji is 50% or 82%

correct ; our human limitations does not make the science of astrology

inaccurate, provided the methods are not whimsical and are firmly based on

shaastras. There are so many charts in a single case and so many interrelations

between those charts that we often make mistakes. Personally, I am not

foolproof. But the method I speak of is foolproof, and I know how to prove it. I

have to translate my works in Hindi, and put it on webpages, besides answering a

large number of emails and updating my software, esp the English version which

is incomplete. Hence, I need some time for presenting the proofs.

> > >

> > > -VJ

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > >

> > > Monday, May 11, 2009 7:42:32 AM

> > > Re: World Population.. .?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Krishnan Dada,

> > >

> > > Of course all of these are estimates because as I said, even if these

relied on census and birth and death records which are a moving 'duck' as the

expression goes (One that quacks and waddles like a duck ;-)) with births and

deaths taking place all the time second to second -- the numbers would never be

anything but underestimates as all know.

> > >

> > > Isn't astrology an 'estimate' also ;-) Unless we have someone here who has

been 100% accurate with their predictions etc...

> > >

> > > Like Great Modern Varahmihira as Raman ji has been called, and rightly so

given his astounding mundane predictions and yeoman service to the cause of

Jyotish for decades and decades mentioned, I believe that Astrology is a study

of trends and possibilities and Sri KN Rao has often mentioned that even the

best astrologers go upto something like 82% success rate, overall.

> > >

> > > I feel a very strong hunger for some delicious 'kheer' pudding arising

within! Let us see what we get next ...!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sirs,

> > > > The date given and estimated figures are always tentative and these

statistical compilation shall have some marginal errors of + or _ 2%( 07/01/09

6,790,062,216) .But can never be wild claculations.

> > > > Even brahma Vakyam too might have some vailidty.The base however will

never be explicable to find any logic.we accept all these pronouncements from

various siddhantas/authorit ies but very faithfully with out trying to read much

into these pronouncements.

> > > > I know Shri Vinaya Ji takes lot of pains and does selfless and

volunatary study in exploring siddhantas and making them useful for human

consumption. For that he utilises his time and money too but does not want to

signify the immense intrinsic value.Any information/ revealation that comes out

of such great human enedeavour should appropriately should have some tag.It is

not that some one intends to trade such immense and philonthropic efforts.To

attempt and to do that is also cruel.But if we calculate the time spent,material

consumed it is not that does not have value in pecuinary terms.For generous

trading is utter bad and meaningless. But intended seekers of Knowldge certainly

appreciate gestures of free service.keeping in mind that the future of Astrology

and the need for it's growth and development it is worth to consider to value

products on no profit and no loss basis.We also know the recent debate IPR too

is meant for value addition and

> > > preciousness

> > > > nature such great human efforts.

> > > > Infact mining the data and put into in meaningful way and stucture it

and prepare the material for test and utilisation further are significane

endeavours.we like it and support them and whole hearted .with no room for

insinnuations. But we can not remain as mute observers without compliments. But

these wishes when they emnate whole heartedly have no other meaning except

appreciation and only appreciation .if they sound otherwise,what else can be

done except to make our stand very lucid.Always human views/expression are

divergent and no body would like to condemn upright.But if read in a wrong sense

one has to feel sorry about it.As RR said the two cents are free and frank

opinions w/o looking for it's reactions/negative feelings

> > > > vrkrishnan

> > > > vrkrishnan

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> > > > --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

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> > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > > > World Population.. .?

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> > > > Sunday, May 10, 2009, 7:50 PM

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> > > > I found this URL that may be of interest:

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> > > > http://www.census. gov/ipc/www/ popclockworld. html

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> > > > According to this the world population has already exceeded 6778

millions and counting.

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> > > > It is well known that census figures are underestimates, particularly in

countries that are massively populated, for a variety of reasons.

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> > > > Very interesting. ..!

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> > > > RR

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> > > > , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...>

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> > > > > Human race will never reach 7 billions. Demographers are giving out

projections base on past trends. But 6227 millions is the ultimate Lakshamana

Rekhaa which mankind is incapable of crossing. You will find its proof in about

a decade or two. It is a Brahma-vaakya.

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> > > > > -VJ

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