How To Test Softwares : Mundane Charts-175

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Prashant Ji,

 

<<< " we r not bankrupt as they assume " >>>

 

They know JR is not bankrupt, otherwise, why they join it? One keeps

away from bankrupts, and only bankrupts join a bankrupt group.

 

I do not believe in tit for tat, but I do not allow false attacks on

shaastras. I have tolerated worse abuses and personal attacks. For

instance, I never answered Mr Chandrahari when he was constantly abusing

me, but later found that my tolerance is taken to be a sign of weakness.

When I got proof of their deliberate designs (I am not using the word

" fraud " because you do not like it), I started inviting him for a

shaastraartha, which he shunned.

 

Rahu or Guru affects my worldly affairs (fruits of past karmas) and not

my moods. Mr Sunil Nair does not abuse me due to his moods, but due to a

design of his team. Otherwise, he is a good person. I have no animosity

for him, but if he makes a false attack on shaastra, he will get good

answers from me, which will not depend upon my moods but on the intent

and content of his posts.

 

-Vinay Jha

============== ====

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Dear Vinay ji

>

> thanks for the good reply if this much is assured a calm reaction i

can even allow sinil jis mails unmoderated also one one hand they call

us bankrupt and other accuse me of stifiling debate

>

> when it is less of debate and more of attack. just as u have agreed to

post data I aksed them also to test the s/w and also study the case

studies IMPERSONALLY due to my time, sight limotations if members share

the job each one is mutually benefited by either confirming or rejecting

what we see fairly but with no attempt to see it calling names, fraud

is unfair for anyone b e it suni or u on chandra hari [chandra hari i

already said i don't know the history between u and him but if the

VIOLENT WORDS were used instead of a debate it is aid as said without

know the context i will not select one word or two and calssify anyone.

>

> BUT AM V relieved to know u got my approach right.

>

> er t saurely capable to deal with the outcomes

>

> we r not bankrupt as they assume

>

> JUST BECAUSE WE CHOOSE NOT TO MAKE THE SAME DIRTY NOISES THEY DO

>

> debate, discussions r a basis for knowledge sharing a calm forum is v

important even choosing a 2 days away for approving potentially volitile

thread is misunderstood and accuses me of many things

>

> HAS'T THE Chandra+Gur in Kumbha given Vinal ji the calm mind needed t

o reply so well instead of a tit for tat

>

> I trust u know with no TIT FOR TATS and let them enjoy sich acts

onesided.

>

> thanks

>

> prashant

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Vinay Jha vinayjhaa16

>

> Sunday, May 17, 2009 3:54:14 PM

> Re: Re: How To Test Softwares : Mundane Charts-175

>

>

>

>

>

> It is good to see so many matured members in JR. Now I will be able to

send what Prashant Ji asks for. Testing needs a right climate, and not

an attitude of dogfighters or bullfighters. Who do not like my software

should forget me, as Arjun ji rightly uggested. Why they are attempting

the impossible : to obliterate me or my works in a Hitlerite manner (one

" intellectal " had asked them to kill me) ?

>

> -VJ

> ============ = ===

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar >

>

> Sunday, May 17, 2009 12:15:59 PM

> Re: Re: How To Test Softwares : Mundane Charts-175

>

> Dear Arjun ji

>

> thanks for a practical approach mail in line to what i have been

saying so far and all my appeals to wait till chandra and guru joing

instead of chandra+rahu earlier to be the stage seems vindicated now

isnit it so calm approach is there on it, we could have a acidinc one if

it was set to be in open in chandra+rahu in Makara this step I took from

past experiences in forums

>

> when Budha is vakri

> chandra with nodes or malefics we see troubled atmosphere so good

sharing time is when chandra is unaflicted so hope members use such

times and post info based messages.

>

> Prashant

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ >

>

> Sunday, May 17, 2009 12:02:48 PM

> Re: How To Test Softwares : Mundane Charts

>

> dear friends

>

> since the group moderator prashantji sought opinions and senior

members like RRji have already given their views, i would also kindly

request all fraternal brothers and sisters to give room to fellow

brethern and sisters and let them share what they wish to. every one

can agree or disagree in a manner without using abuses or slangs.

>

> vinayji sharing his knowledge on astrology, astronomy, history or

vedic spirituality has many takers but if his software is not acceptable

to some or someone finds flaws in it, they can simply ignore that such a

software exist and be happy with those softwares which they are

comfortable with. on a positive note, they can suggest how to make it

more userfriendly or add value to get more acceptability. if not,

simply ignore all his mails on software and join only on other threads.

>

> simply put, if one does not like something, just leave it as

uninteresting or unacceptable. thats it. why to enter into debates and

prove that one is right or the other is wrong.

>

> vinayji is also showing his maturity by taking the critical mails in

right spirit and not matching words. in future also, he may continue to

treat the negative critical views only as feedback and nothing personal.

>

> with best wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

> www.rudraksharemedy .com

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote:

> >

> > Dear RRji

> >

> >

> > a good post, I hope all observe this tolerance and mutual respect in

public

> >

> > I HAVE TRIED AT VARIOUS TIMES TO DEFUSE POTENTIAL FLASH POINTS from

the time I took over

> >

> > say lalit Misra, the sapta rishi time later av pathi ji's case etc

> >

> > now in Lalit's case or Vinay ji i had privately appealed to Sunik

Nair ji several times

> >

> > to allow them to work peacefully and public can judge them we must

not arrogate the power of a judge on ourself as the subject is vast,

diverse and spread at diff levels in diff parts of India being a oral

tradition of knowledge sharing has its plus and minus points

> >

> > NOW IF LALIT IOR VINAY JI according to sunil nair or anyone r fake

by theur work will expose themselves, but if they demosntrate their work

they stand vindicated at least Vinay ji has ben asking for time so have

given him time

> >

> > I also told sunil ji if he feels Vinay ji is not up to his standard

or dirt why dirty ur hands his works alone will show him on which side

he will remain on the knowledge sharing one or oen who runs away fearing

or taking any excuse for running away somewhere he must demonstrate his

material convincinlgly

> >

> > we know traditional wisdom is v rich and we have not scraped even

the tip of it so if he has done it WE MUST 1ST APPRECIATE IT AND ALSO

ENCOURAGE, GIVE HIM TIME TO SHOW HIS WORKS TO US WE CAN'T FORCE HIM TO A

TIME FRAME, WHEN HE IS DOING SO MAY OTHER THINGS

> >

> > i AM GOING BY WHAT HE HAS SAID AND HAVE NO VESTED INTEREST IN SAYING

SO NOR I AM GIING TO JUDGE SOMEONE FOR THE HECK OF IT, THE MEMBERSHIP

here and by and alrge in forums mustb e patient, tolerant of diverse

views, EITHER TEST WHAT THTYE DOUBT OR IGNORE WHAT THEY FEEL OFFENSIVE,

ABUSSIVE, INCONSISTANT.

> >

> > on our part each member must excercise restraint, self belife in

ones knowledge, ones gurus is important and if it is true to the spirit

one need not get angry or carried away like a fanatic but the respect to

our gurus starts with being humble, and being humane in our approach let

ppl who offend us bear the sin of it

> >

> > from our side we may be on a good self image, mirror view, may be

occassionally can defend the views we represent not on a personal

abusive plane

> >

> > prashant

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> >

> > Sunday, May 17, 2009 5:05:32 AM

> > Re: How To Test Softwares : Mundane Charts

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Vinay Ji,

> >

> > You should not have felt apprehensive at all, Sir! If two educated

individuals on whom people depend for advice, guidance and direction

cannot discuss and interchange their views and thoughts in a

level-headed manner without reaching out for the other person's collar,

then how can we feel any pride in the greatness of the ancient

civilization to which we belong, at least from the point of reference of

this birthtime?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > {{A general request to posters: I think all of us jyotishis should

demonstrate more tolerance and compassion even if we do not care about

whether the world is watching us or not.}}

> >

> > , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > RR Ji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for your tolerance and openness. I was apprehensive that

you may dislike my reaction. If my reaction was misplaced, I beg an

apology.

> > >

> > > I must correct one misinterpretation. I never sought " any

assurances from readers that I will post examples

> > > and case studies etc but would want to make sure first that those

will

> > > be read by others. " Two persons were desirous of case studies

from me, but were willing or otherwise unable to read 7 case studies

which are rotting on my website for six months, about which I made many

references in this forum. If they are not interested in case studies

already posted by me, why do they demand more ? Is it not a wastage of

my time ? If they read my previous case studies, I will supply more

almost instantly. But even if they do not read me, I will post more case

studies, but not instantly and only at my leisure. Why should I demand a

priori assurance from everyone to read my postings ?

> > >

> > > -VJ

> > >

> > > ============ === ===

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > >

> > > Saturday, May 16, 2009 10:47:34 PM

> > > Re: How To Test Softwares : Mundane Charts

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Vinay Jha Ji,

> > >

> > > I was not at all suggesting that you stop working on your software

or to bury it as sounded from your response. I was merely commenting on

your earlier posting in which you were seeking assurances from readers

that you will post examples and case studies etc but would want to make

sure first that those will be read by others. Please read my original

message and you shall see where your understanding departed from my

expression.

> > >

> > > But thank you very much for giving us a glimpse into your

background and reasons for being on the path and mission that you are

on.

> > >

> > > I can only speak for myself but I do not like to critique other

people's approaches and techniques etc. There are so many variations

that are used in divinatory crafts like astrology that I am just in awe

of the brilliance of all systems. I realize that many scholars are of

the opinion that there can only be one specific and correct way of

applying astrology (ayanamsha etc) and some of them also maintain that

all others are sadly mistaken. My observation is different and my window

of acceptance larger.

> > >

> > > And no I did not find your tone harsh at all. Candour is a boon,

not a bane.

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@

....> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > RR Ji,

> > > >

> > > > I hope you will take my words in a friendly manner, as you have

always done, in spite of apparently harsh tone in some sentences, but

this harshness is superficial, necessitated on account of some

principles which you will perhaps try to understand.

> > > >

> > > > My departed Guru ji who taught me Jyotisha, besides other

valuable things, was much more learned , wiser and socially/politicall

y/economically influential than me. But he did not use his knowledge and

influence to propagate Suryasiddhanta. He was Convenor of 1942 Quit

India Movement Committee in Bihar and organized the first major rally on

Aug 9 in which 7 students were killed, as a reaction to which a

nationwide revolt against British Raj instantly broke out. Later, he was

a Vice Chancellor without taking any salary. Chief minister and many

other state and central cabinet ministers were his disciples. He wrote

60 books, but not a sentence on Jyotisha. He gave his Jyotisha knowledge

only to me (which makes my situation worse, making me lonely), and even

his nearest relatives did not know he had any knowledge of Jyotisha ! I

am unfortunate that I could not learn all that I could learn from him

due to his departure. He never needed computers or

> > > > calculators, I saw him making horoscopes without using paper

and pen and any panchanga, doing all the calculations mujabaani !!

> > > >

> > > > Swami Ramakrishna Paramhamsa did not cross seas, why did Swami

Vivekananda ? If my Guru ji did not write on Jyotisha, why should I ? If

he did not make any software, why should I ?

> > > >

> > > > 'He' helped me directly in making my first astrological software

(Suryasiddhantic) . 'He' said I am free to write a book on

Suryasiddhanta and even helped me at portions where I faced difficulty.

Is it not permission ? Both parts of my work ,software and book, are

being carried on WITH permission by That very agency Which gave me

this thing.

> > > >

> > > > The work on book is progressing. But it is not a matter of

writing a single book. It is a matter of discussing all major

misinterpretations on ancient astrology and much more. The work may go

into many books and will take years and even decades. Does it mean I

should leave software ? Why ? I know you lost much time in unstalling

Kundalee and resolved not to waste your time again. Your advice about

forgetting Kundalee is not a new advice. If you think this software

should be forgotten, who prevents you from doing so? In future, I will

never ask you to install it. I am not saying so in anguish. Actually, it

is prohibited in Suryasiddhanta to ask uninterested persons to even read

it or use it in any way. I sent you case studies, and you did not

respond. Had the astrological results from Kundalee appeared wrong to

you, you might have discussed your differences with me. But you chose to

neglect it, and rather ask me to bury a software which took best

> > > decades

> > > > of my life. Book is secondary to me. I am not really interested

in it. Some friends are passionate about a detailed version of the book

which was published in 2005. That is why I agreed to bring out the book.

As for your concern for abusive behaviour of some persons, I do not care

for abuses (or praises), because I am not a businessman. Should I carry

out a psychoanalytical analysis of your comments in the manner of

Derrida? Read your sentences yourself :

> > > >

> > > > <<< " a detached, dispassionate individual like you is so

passionate about this software and method etc and cannot walk away from

it all? >>>

> > > >

> > > > A science teacher once told me that Adi Shankara warred with all

and sundry and could not learn some detachment ! Working for a noble

cause is a sign that the person is not detached ! As per this view, even

Lord Krishna was not detached because he was partial towards Pandavas,

unlike Balarama who was detached from both factions of Right and Wrong,

Dharma and Adharma. Balarama walked away from the greatest event in

Indian history to visit teerthas, while Lord Krishna created a new

teertha at Kurukshetra through his really detached actions and

preachings. Detachment is a proper mental state of performing karmas.

Running away from duties in not detachment.

> > > >

> > > > <<< " Why would one so knowledgeable and dedicated to higher

causes as your postings indicate that you are " >>>

> > > >

> > > > The deconstruction (cf. Derrida) of this sentences is : making

a software based on the supposed 'higher cause' is a lower cause, which

suggests even these 'higher causes' are not really higher, otherwise a

good theory (proposed book) shoold accompany practice (software). I have

stressed innumerable times that the only proof of validity of

Suryasiddhanta is its astrological test, and not any historical or

astronomical or dharmashaastriya discussion, and asking for burying the

Suryasiddhantic software is asking for burying of Suryasiddhangta and

its proposed book as well. A book will need a software to test the

assertions.

> > > >

> > > > <<< " Which writer or researcher in ANY faculty, science or

non-science first polls the future readers and gets their assurance

before he starts doing or writing down the research etc? " >>>

> > > >

> > > > This sentence is based on a fallacious assumption that the book

was never published. I told that Hindi version was published in 2005 and

is out of print. I distributed it through websites and emails for many

years, but stopped doing so when I started working on enlarged new

version (in Hindi ; I am not interested in english version of the main

work, although I will try to bring out a separate english book).

> > > >

> > > > <<< " The true pleasure and sense of accomplishment should arise

from simply writing what one believes in and must not be based on

'others' or how they perceive your work or worth! " >>>

> > > >

> > > > I do not agree. This " true " pleasure is maayaa and an obstacle

to moksha. The bulk of my research works have been published in others'

names, who needed name and fame. I did not allow any publisher of my

panchangas to put my name among editors. The astrological research

journal now in press carries many articles written by me but bearing

other names. How did you guess that my " true " pleasure is based on how

others perceive my work or worth ? You are mixing the cause for which I

work with personal things which are immaterial to me. Some persons think

I have some mania for Suryasiddhanta. I have told them that I made

astrological software according to physical astronomy, but left it when

I found it unsatisfactory and found a better astrologically sound

alternative. Some even think me to be an anachronistic pandit, not

knowing my past. Why these discussions are personalized is not

surprising : some persons do not knoe anything about ancient siddhantas,

> > and

> > > > want to bury the issue by diversions to personalized

remarks/attacks (I am not referring to you).

> > > >

> > > > Instead of seeing any objective discussion on horoscopes made

along physical astronomy versus Suryasiddhanta, why things are being

personalized about me ? One has a right to forget me and my work. One

has a right to remember me and my work. I will forget both of them,

because I want moksha. But I am not passionate about even moksha, leave

aside softwares. It is my firm belief that all noble (and ignoble) works

will be washed up by next pralaya in this world, and only my karmas will

accompany me, and I want to do good karmas without reaping any result.

When a weight is used to measure something, that genuineness of that

weight is also automatically measured in such a process. Comments on me

are proofs not of my character but of the commentators. Worldly people

misinterpret my detachment as my passionate involvement

> > > > in this false and brutal world in which worldly persons do not

really

> > > > care for their nears and dears and construe their Moha to be a

token of

> > > > Prema.

> > > >

> > > > -Vinay Jha

> > > > ============ ======= =====

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Saturday, May 16, 2009 6:34:39 AM

> > > > Re: How To Test Softwares : Mundane Charts

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vinay Ji,

> > > >

> > > > You have expressed a lot of doubts and misgivings in your

message and other postings too, earlier.

> > > >

> > > > Please do not waste your time in reaching out and placing your

efforts on Internet.

> > > >

> > > > As you have stated earlier, several times in different fora, you

have discovered nothing new, and also that promoting SS or proving its

utility is not your life's mission, which has many higher and different

and higher spiritual goals.

> > > >

> > > > Then why a detached, dispassionate individual like you is so

passionate about this software and method etc and cannot walk away from

it all? All the abuse and distraction that you get dragged into and all

these people that you say are trying to shut your voice down and so on.

> > > >

> > > > Why would one so knowledgeable and dedicated to higher causes as

your postings indicate that you are and someone who just 'knows' things

at times and knows how long he is going to live etc -- Why would one

continue to return again and again to the matter of this software and

your hard work and valuable use of your time and not be able to just

walk away and focus on this book that you told us about you were

writing?

> > > >

> > > > Which writer or researcher in ANY faculty, science or

non-science first polls the future readers and gets their assurance

before he starts doing or writing down the research etc?

> > > >

> > > > The true pleasure and sense of accomplishment should arise from

simply writing what one believes in and must not be based on 'others' or

how they perceive your work or worth!

> > > >

> > > > Kuch jyaada bol gaya, Sir, to bhool chook leni deni!

> > > >

> > > > Modern human psyche is basically very paranoid, and full of

disbelief because it has survival value in our daily reality. Come

morning most of us must return to the concrete jungle and the harsh 'dog

eat dog' reality and rat race! If someone suddenly tries to switch the

paradigm, they will meet with resistance!

> > > >

> > > > So, please do write but only if you can do so with happiness in

your heart and not worrying if someone will read every word you write,

no matter how important and personal to you, or even understand the

words or say, " Thank you Jha Ji for writing " or whatever.

> > > >

> > > > Please try it, it works ;-)

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , " vinayjhaa16 "

<vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > To All :

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Some members have demanded case studies. I am ready to present

case

> > > > > studies on internet provided they are read seriously and my

time is not

> > > > > wasted. But I need to clarify some points in this regard.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I used to send annual rain forecasts to 615 weather scientists

each

> > > > > year, but this year I have not been able to do so although

mesha

> > > > > samkraanti elapsed one month ago. Case studies and

biographical analyses

> > > > > are secondary in my list of priorities than to a full English

version of

> > > > > Kundalee software. I made this software in Hindi, and

translation into

> > > > > Englisg was started recently. So far , only divisionals and

varshaphala

> > > > > have been translated. What is the use of case studies if the

software is

> > > > > incomplete in English ? Six months ago, I put 5 individual and

some

> > > > > mundane case studies in English my website in addition to

nearly 70

> > > > > mundane case studies in Hindi attached file, but nobody was

interested

> > > > > in mundane studies and individual case studies were neglected

because I

> > > > > followed the BPHS + Jaimini rules of death prediction which

does not

> > > > > work with physical astronomy. Many members want case

studies which

> > > > > could support their right or wrong belief in physical

astronomy. When

> > > > > they see Suryasiddhanta is working well with phalita rules of

Rishis,

> > > > > they either drop discussion or revert to tactics saying BPHS

is not the

> > > > > only method ! It is not honesty. BPHS is the only complete

textbook of

> > > > > phalita jyotisha propounded by a Rishi. When I saw some people

wanted

> > > > > case studies I presented such studies, 7 of them, but then

they dropped

> > > > > discussion without pointing at my errors or merits. I became

convinced

> > > > > they were not serious, hence I stopped making more case

studies. I left

> > > > > contributing to mysticboard, for which these case studies were

> > > > > originally prepared and were later put at my website.

> > > > >

> > > > > In the meantime, due to a lapse of my technician, some wrong

version of

> > > > > DLL files were attached to my software which created

installion

> > > > > problems to nearly 15-20 persons. I had to completely

reinstall my

> > > > > Windows OS as well as software making platform Visual Studio

and had to

> > > > > recompile Kundalee afresh. I have rectified these version

differences,

> > > > > and the current version of Kundalee is fit for all versions of

XP and

> > > > > Win98.

> > > > >

> > > > > These problems were augmented by my mundane other problems and

> > > > > assignments. I will present case studies when I get leisure,

because I

> > > > > am sure 7 case studies rotting at my website are not being

studied by

> > > > > those who want more case studies. The proposal of 10 case

studies was

> > > > > originally from Mr Pankaj Dhar whose language was a proof of

his lack of

> > > > > interest in my work : he said it is " my duty " to prove my

point and

> > > > > therefore I should present 10 case studies comparing results

of my

> > > > > software with those of other. Why should I try to prove other

software

> > > > > makers wrong ? Will it not make all of them hostile to me? I

said I will

> > > > > increase the number of case studies but I will not compare my

results

> > > > > with those from other softwares : after this Mr pankaj Dhar

lost

> > > > > interest in my work. At present you are the only person who is

demanding

> > > > > case studies. Why 7 case studies presently at my website since

Dec 2008

> > > > > cannot be regarded as " case studies " is not clear to me. I

will need

> > > > > only one day to add extra 3 case studies to complete 10 case

studies

> > > > > demanded by two members in JR (none of whom has installed

Kundalee). But

> > > > > I will never abuse other software makers, and unless I abuse

them, my

> > > > > case studies will not be read at all !! Why you do not see

this point ?

> > > > > Some people do not want case studies, they want me to stop my

creative

> > > > > works and fight with all software makers of the world by

proving them

> > > > > wrong !

> > > > >

> > > > > I sent individual case studies to many persons. None of them

is ready to

> > > > > discuss the good or bad points in my case studies, just

because

> > > > > planetary positions of Kundalee differ from physical

astronomy. They are

> > > > > under an oath never to discuss a chart with me ASTROLOGICALLY.

> > > > >

> > > > > Only real software developers like PVR and Shyam Kansal ji are

> > > > > sympathetic and unbiased : they know the shortcomings of

modern

> > > > > softwares and are doing their best to find ways to remove

these

> > > > > shortcomings. Shyam Kansal ji is the pioneer in software on

> > > > > Ashtakavargas, and when he found the team of Sreenadh falsely

charging

> > > > > me of making an " uninstallable " software based on an

" outdated "

> > > > > siddhaanta, he stepped in to report that he faced no

difficulty in

> > > > > installing Kundalee and found that no other software dealt

with

> > > > > Ashtakavargas more exhaustively than Kundalee. But such

verdicts by a

> > > > > pioneer vedic software developer made no impact on AIA

managers.

> > > > >

> > > > > Over half of my time is wasted on useless theoretical

discussions or

> > > > > diversions. I wanted comparative discussion of charts, but I

found no

> > > > > one is interested in it. Only I am expected to make case

studies and

> > > > > comparative studies and only I will read my case studies. Why

7 case

> > > > > studies rotting at my website for over 6 months cannot be

regarded as

> > > > > case studies ? I

> > > > >

> > > > > I started biographical study of Napoleon, but stopped the work

when one

> > > > > senior member in JR said that birthtime of celebrities are

doubtful.

> > > > > Why they want to waste my time with biographical studies when

they will

> > > > > not read those studies ? I know birthdata of most of Indian

celebrities

> > > > > are deliberate falsehoods, but same is not the casewith well

researched

> > > > > foerign celebrities.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hence, the best method for comparing various schools is

mundane case

> > > > > studies : I have over two hundred case studies in this field,

which has

> > > > > no uncertainties like birthtime errors, because time of chart

is

> > > > > determined by solar transits into raashis or nakshatras.

Moreover, I can

> > > > > present comparative case studies in this field too, because

there will

> > > > > be no need to compare astrological softwares made by others.

136 years

> > > > > of official annual rainfall data is availabe on a monthly

basis. Change

> > > > > the year beginning with January to year beginning with April,

and

> > > > > compare annual rainfall data with Mesha Samkraanti charts of

India.

> > > > > Analysis of only one raashi is enough in this case, becase we

need to

> > > > > analyse only that raashi in which India falls in the Prithvi

Chakra.

> > > > >

> > > > > Repeat same exercize for 55 years of economic growth data

presented in

> > > > > Economic Survey of central finance ministers : these data are

already

> > > > > presented in year beginning from April and can be easily

compared with

> > > > > Varsha-pravesh charts of India on nirayana mesha Samkraanti.

Analysis of

> > > > > only 11th house is needed in this case.

> > > > >

> > > > > Internet astrologers are not interested in mundane astrology,

hence I am

> > > > > not translating my Hindi case studies into English. But

whether internet

> > > > > people read my case studies or not, I will certainly put them

on my

> > > > > websites gradually.

> > > > >

> > > > > I translated one year's forecasts made by a HOD on world and

by me on

> > > > > India and put it at following webpage : Click_Here

> > > > > <http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ World+Economy+

%3A+Apr+2009- Mar+201\

> > > > > 0> . I will have to translate my whole mundane software into

English

> > > > > for making English case studies. Before I joined forums,

I did not

> > > > > know Indian astrologers do not know rudimentary Hindi. If

south Indian

> > > > > astrologers can recognize Hindi alphabets (no mastery of

language is

> > > > > needed), I will not need to translate my whole mundane

softwares, and

> > > > > can present mundane case studies with commentaries in english.

> > > > >

> > > > > But then someone will come and say Parashari phalit is not

universal and

> > > > > should not be used ! After all, there must be some consensus

on the

> > > > > methods of case studies. So far, my experience is that only

those people

> > > > > want case studies from me who do not want to touch my software

for one

> > > > > reason or another.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have devoted my life in making scores of softwares and other

research

> > > > > projects along modern physical astronomy initially but along

> > > > > Suryasiddhanta later when I found modern physical astronomy

giving

> > > > > unsatisfactory results. Those who have not worked along both

lines and

> > > > > merely stick to modern physical astronomy have a prejudiced

feeling that

> > > > > I have some personal agenda of imposing Suryasiddhanta. My

background is

> > > > > not astrological but scientific, and I became a supporter of

> > > > > Suryasiddanta after decades of comparative researches. I have

no benefit

> > > > > in propagating this method, because I never sold either my

softwares not

> > > > > took any fees for my astrological services. Yet, some people

have

> > > > > expressed their unfounded views that I have a future plan to

get

> > > > > commercial benefits by making " hoax claims " . These same people

refuse to

> > > > > study 7 case studies at my website and say it is " my " duty to

prove my

> > > > > point. It is impossible to prove or disprove anything to those

who

> > > > > refuse to read the proofs.

> > > > >

> > > > > -VinayJha

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