secong marrage considerated by which house ?

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I m very much interested in learning astrology and regarding that my question is

that which house should be considered to know about second marrage .

e.g we consider 5th house for child n love 7th house for marrage thus same way

which house can be considered for second marrage i m not asking about the

planets i m asking aboust house bcoz in some books i have read that 9th house

should be considered n in some that 12th house should be considered .

so respected gurujans plz let me know .

thanks

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secong marrage considerated by 9th house,which is 3rd from 7th,like first child

from 5th house and 2end child from 7th house.CK OJHA

 

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himani_kanani <himani_kanani

secong marrage considerated by which house ?

 

Monday, 25 May, 2009, 7:33 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

plz do not delete my letter i really need my questions answer and i m

asking this question 5th time everytime my letter is not added so plz do favour

me .

 

 

 

I m very much interested in learning astrology and regarding that my question is

that which house should be considered to know about second marrage .

 

e.g we consider 5th house for child n love 7th house for marrage thus same way

which house can be considered for second marrage i m not asking about the

planets i m asking aboust house bcoz in some books i have read that 9th house

should be considered n in some that 12th house should be considered ..

 

so respected gurujans plz let me know .

 

thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Himani,

 

Second house is considered.

 

Best regards,

 

Sudhir

Consulting Astrologer

 

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himani_kanani

Monday, May 25, 2009 12:03 PM

secong marrage considerated by which house ?

 

 

 

 

 

plz do not delete my letter i really need my questions answer and i m asking

this question 5th time everytime my letter is not added so plz do favour me .

 

I m very much interested in learning astrology and regarding that my question

is that which house should be considered to know about second marrage .

e.g we consider 5th house for child n love 7th house for marrage thus same way

which house can be considered for second marrage i m not asking about the

planets i m asking aboust house bcoz in some books i have read that 9th house

should be considered n in some that 12th house should be considered .

so respected gurujans plz let me know .

thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

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dear sir,

Reg. 2nd marriage which house should be considered to know about second

marrage?.

Lagna,2nd house,4th ,5th,7,3,8,12 all shoud combained and get the

conclution for that.

2nd thing which planet/s is/are in that house.

3rd thing for aspect.

4th thing for Dasa, Bhukthi,Anthram

5th thing Navamsa position,Bhava position

then only you get a concluton for the same

best wishes

Brahmagnane

 

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Mon, 25 May 2009 06:33:10 -0000

 

secong marrage considerated by which house ?

 

 

plz do not delete my letter i really need my questions answer and i m

asking this question 5th time everytime my letter is not added so plz do

favour me .

 

I m very much interested in learning astrology and regarding that my

question is that which house should be considered to know about second

marrage .

e.g we consider 5th house for child n love 7th house for marrage thus same

way which house can be considered for second marrage i m not asking about

the planets i m asking aboust house bcoz in some books i have read that 9th

house should be considered n in some that 12th house should be considered .

so respected gurujans plz let me know .

thanks

 

 

 

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Sir,

Affliction to 7th house leads to second marraige.The lord of 7th if afflicted

due to mars ,saturn,retrograde jupiter/venus,the first marriage fails.The first

marraige might be due to the influence of 2nd house,5th house,9th as well as

10th house depending type of relationship before marriage.Once the first

marraige breaks you need also look from lagna ,moon and 5th to decide about 2nd

marraige.importance here is for dasa of saturn or antar,pratyanatar of saturn

vrkrishnan

 

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purvamahadevan <purvamahadevan

RE: secong marrage considerated by which house ?

 

Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 1:53 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear sir,

Reg. 2nd marriage which house should be considered to know about second

marrage?.

Lagna,2nd house,4th ,5th,7,3,8,12 all shoud combained and get the

conclution for that.

2nd thing which planet/s is/are in that house.

3rd thing for aspect.

4th thing for Dasa, Bhukthi,Anthram

5th thing Navamsa position,Bhava position

then only you get a concluton for the same

best wishes

Brahmagnane

 

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Mon, 25 May 2009 06:33:10 -0000

 

secong marrage considerated by which house ?

 

plz do not delete my letter i really need my questions answer and i m

asking this question 5th time everytime my letter is not added so plz do

favour me .

 

I m very much interested in learning astrology and regarding that my

question is that which house should be considered to know about second

marrage .

e.g we consider 5th house for child n love 7th house for marrage thus same

way which house can be considered for second marrage i m not asking about

the planets i m asking aboust house bcoz in some books i have read that 9th

house should be considered n in some that 12th house should be considered .

so respected gurujans plz let me know .

thanks

 

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Dear Krishnan ji,

 

pardon me if it sounds like a very silly question. But does affliction means

that lord of 7th house is with mars, saturn or retorgrade jupiter / venus that

lord of 7th house is in the same house with it? Asking you because i am a

divorcee and have 7th house lord sun in 7th house itself with venus.

 

thanks

rajesh

 

--- On Tue, 5/26/09, vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

 

 

vattem krishnan <bursar_99

RE: secong marrage considerated by which house ?

 

Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 2:48 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sir,

Affliction to 7th house leads to second marraige.The lord of 7th if afflicted

due to mars ,saturn,retrograde jupiter/venus, the first marriage fails.The first

marraige might be due to the influence of 2nd house,5th house,9th as well as

10th house depending type of relationship before marriage.Once the first

marraige breaks you need also look from lagna ,moon and 5th to decide about 2nd

marraige.importance here is for dasa of saturn or antar,pratyanatar of saturn

vrkrishnan

 

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RE: secong marrage considerated by which house ?

 

Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 1:53 AM

 

dear sir,

Reg. 2nd marriage which house should be considered to know about second

marrage?.

Lagna,2nd house,4th ,5th,7,3,8,12 all shoud combained and get the

conclution for that.

2nd thing which planet/s is/are in that house.

3rd thing for aspect.

4th thing for Dasa, Bhukthi,Anthram

5th thing Navamsa position,Bhava position

then only you get a concluton for the same

best wishes

Brahmagnane

 

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Mon, 25 May 2009 06:33:10 -0000

 

secong marrage considerated by which house ?

 

plz do not delete my letter i really need my questions answer and i m

asking this question 5th time everytime my letter is not added so plz do

favour me .

 

I m very much interested in learning astrology and regarding that my

question is that which house should be considered to know about second

marrage .

e.g we consider 5th house for child n love 7th house for marrage thus same

way which house can be considered for second marrage i m not asking about

the planets i m asking aboust house bcoz in some books i have read that 9th

house should be considered n in some that 12th house should be considered .

so respected gurujans plz let me know .

thanks

 

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Namasthe,

 

 

//my question is that which house should be considered to know about second

marrage .//

 

7th House need only to be considered for any number of marriages.

 

Other houses may be supportive and in rare cases / cults etc. A second wife /

mistress is also called " sapathni " inadvertanly refers to an enemy of the wife.

Enemy is considered from the 6th house. hence 6th from 7th is 12th from lagna.

This is the reason for considering second wife / mistress from 12th house. But

this may be illogical in genuine second marriage say after the death of the

first wife. however, there might be some sence if the person is having a second

wife / mistress while the first is still living with him. Then this amounts to

adultry (not illegal in countries / castes). 12th house if affected by malefics

indicates loss / spending in illegal activities.

 

as for 9th house, In old days (very?), there was a system of marrying the sister

of ones wife also, when multiple marriages were allowed, among some section of

people. Here, 9th house is the 3rd (sahodara) from 7th house. This could be the

reason why reference to 9th came in some texts. But such practices are very rare

today and need not considered generaly.

 

in both the above cases, 7th house is the key center point. hence only 7th need

to be considered.

 

How to evaluate the 7th house.

A)The number of planets in the 7th,

B)aspecting the 7th

together indicate the number of marriages.

 

A)If a planet is exalted in the 7th, upto 3 marriages / partners should be

suspected.

B)Attributes of Partner / wife corresponds to each of planets aspecting the 7th

house.

C) Attributes of partner / wife corresponds to the most powerfull planet.

D) Number of marriages (if there are more than one), can also be known from the

no of navamsa of the planet occupying the 7th or of the 7th lord.

E) all the above should be considered from the venus also.

 

f)There is problem with the above calculation. suppose the navamsa no is 9

should there be 9 marriages. it is absurd. The rule is to substract those

navamsa signs starting from the 1st navamsa rasi, having malefics planets

including Gulika or aspected by them IN THE RASI CHART - DO NOT CONSIDER NAVAMSA

CHART JUST LIKE RASI CHART. the balance signs should reasonably indicate the

Attributes of each of the partners / wife.

G)The planets which gave points in the Ashtavarga of the 7th of 7th lord, venus

, and in the 7th house of lagna / chandra may also indicate the number of

marriages and each of them may correspond to the such planets.

H) Check the das of such planets whether are runnig / forthcomming.

 

Finaly ALWAYS LOOK FOR EXCEPTIONS. This is very important as far as marriage is

concerned.

 

For example:

If the lagna is Ubhaya rasi (Gemini, Virgo, Sagitarius, Pisces) and 7th lord and

moon occupies Ubhaya rasi / ubhaya rasi navamsa

and if mercury or saturn occupies the 7th (ubhaya rasi) and 11th from lagna is

occupied by 2 planets, there will be 2 marriages.

 

In the above combination if sun or mars occupies the 7th or has navamsa in the

7th of lagna in the rasi chart (suppose lagna is Virgo and sun / mars has

navamsa in pisces), there will only be one marriage.

 

There are many such exceptions provided.

 

I hope this helps you.

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

 

 

 

 

 

, " himani_kanani " <himani_kanani

wrote:

>

> plz do not delete my letter i really need my questions answer and i m asking

this question 5th time everytime my letter is not added so plz do favour me .

>

> I m very much interested in learning astrology and regarding that my question

is that which house should be considered to know about second marrage .

> e.g we consider 5th house for child n love 7th house for marrage thus same

way which house can be considered for second marrage i m not asking about the

planets i m asking aboust house bcoz in some books i have read that 9th house

should be considered n in some that 12th house should be considered .

> so respected gurujans plz let me know .

> thanks

>

[Guest guest]

hello Himani,

This has been told in earlier mails as for all marriage purposes it is basically

7th and to find out type of marriage2nd,5th and 10th house.

For timing it is dasa and position of dasa lord and gochara of jupiter venus and

saturn

vrkrishnan

 

--- On Mon, 5/25/09, himani_kanani <himani_kanani wrote:

 

 

himani_kanani <himani_kanani

secong marrage considerated by which house ?

 

Monday, May 25, 2009, 2:33 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

plz do not delete my letter i really need my questions answer and i m asking

this question 5th time everytime my letter is not added so plz do favour me .

 

I m very much interested in learning astrology and regarding that my question is

that which house should be considered to know about second marrage .

e.g we consider 5th house for child n love 7th house for marrage thus same way

which house can be considered for second marrage i m not asking about the

planets i m asking aboust house bcoz in some books i have read that 9th house

should be considered n in some that 12th house should be considered .

so respected gurujans plz let me know .

thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Himaniji,

 

This is a quote from

 

UTTARAKALAMRITAM By Kalidasa

English Translation

By Panditabushana V. SUBRAHMANYA SASTRI B.A.,

 

(public domain text made available by Pandit S.P.Tata for astrojyoti.com)

 

//Sloka 38 : All about the first wife should be predicted from the 7th house

from the Lagna; about the 2nd wife from the 8th house there from, and the

successive wives found out in a similar manner.//

 

I do not have the original verse in sanskrit. This particular verse gives a clue

that second marriage is seen from the 2nd house, as it is 8th from the 7th

house.

 

Regards,

bhagavathi

 

 

, vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> hello Himani,

> This has been told in earlier mails as for all marriage purposes it is

basically 7th and to find out type of marriage2nd,5th and 10th house.

> For timing it is dasa and position of dasa lord and gochara of jupiter venus

and saturn

> vrkrishnan

>

> --- On Mon, 5/25/09, himani_kanani <himani_kanani wrote:

>

>

> himani_kanani <himani_kanani

> secong marrage considerated by which house ?

>

> Monday, May 25, 2009, 2:33 AM

>

>

plz do not delete my letter i really need my questions answer and i m asking

this question 5th time everytime my letter is not added so plz do favour me .

>

> I m very much interested in learning astrology and regarding that my question

is that which house should be considered to know about second marrage .

> e.g we consider 5th house for child n love 7th house for marrage thus same way

which house can be considered for second marrage i m not asking about the

planets i m asking aboust house bcoz in some books i have read that 9th house

should be considered n in some that 12th house should be considered .

> so respected gurujans plz let me know .

> thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

[Guest guest]

Namasthe,

 

The original Sloka of Uttarakalaritha is

 

//aadyaaM saptamabhaavatastanu gR^ihaat bhaaryaaM tatastvaShTamaat

dvaitiiyaaM cha tathaa punaH punarapityevaM mR^itaaH syuuH khalaiH

lagnaadaShTamagaiH shubhairnahi tathaa jiivasya yogekshaNaat

saumyair jiivayutaastadiiya tanayaan vR^ittaM guNaadyaM dishet..//

 

Meaning: the first wife is to considered from the 7th of lagna (thanu) and the

8th from there should be considered for second wife (8th from the 7th = 2nd from

lagna). If these house are occupied by malefic those wife will die. If the 8th

house have a benefic planet or aspected by Jupiter this will not happen. The

character and quality of the children is known from planets associating with

Jupiter.

 

From the above, the author contends that the 2nd wife should be known from the

2nd house (kutumbha sthana) from lagna and NOT from the 2nd of the 7th (8th

house). He further alleges that if malefic planets occupies these houses (2nd &

7th ), those wives – if 7th is occupied : first wife & 2nd is occupied : 2nd

wife shall die. He also says if 8th house is having a benefic planet this will

not happen. He further moves on to explain on the quality of the children.

 

A benefic occupying the 8th house aspects 2nd house also. So also a malefic. 8th

is the 2nd house from 7th – its maraka sthana. Numerous acharyas has stated that

if 8th is occupied by a malefic, it will destroy the wife. Hence, malefic

occupying the 8th house may kill the 1st wife and since it is aspecting the 2nd

house, it may kill the 2nd wife also.

 

Since, it is death of the wives that are focused here, can we entirely take this

for granted that 2nd house should be considered for 2nd wife or should we limit

its use only to the death of 2nd wife?. As far as I am considered, I would give

more importance to the latter view (until this can be proved with a few cases

illustrated) and consider the subsequent wives from the 7th house itself as I

have stated earlier in another message. More over, a malefic in the 2nd house

may destroy his entire family, which is practically seen in many horoscopes

rather than only the second wife as stated by the author.

 

Since, I would not dare to question the author on this, I believe the focus of

the author seems to be least regarding 2nd wife, but on their death and about

children.

 

//horaadayastanukuDuMbasahothabandu

putraaripatnimaraNaani shubhaaspadaayaaH.

riHphaakhyamityupachayaanyarikarmalaabha

duschitkasaM~nitagrihaaNi na nityameke..//

 

The above verse by Mihiracharya clearly says that 2nd house is called " kutumba " -

family and 7th house is called " Patnee " – wife. Wife is only one of the elements

of a wider concept of family, while " patnee " refers specifically to ones wife.

 

I would welcome the experience of learned astrologers on this aspect since

theory and practice vary in many cases.

 

Regarding 5 for love? I wonder how this misconception evolved. 5 house is

santhana sthana , pragna sthana , mantra sthana. None of these refers to love.

If fact, apart from factor that love may lead to children, love itself is never

meant to included in the 5th – higher intelligence.

 

Further: purusha sookta says : " chandrama manaso jatah, chaksho sooryo ajaayata "

– from the mind, moon was born and sun was born from the eyes of purusha.

Hence, we can see moon rules over the mind, emotions. Love is fiction of mind

and emotions. This has nothing to do with 5th and its karaka jupiter who is

supposed to be the ultimate Guru – the word Guru itself is gu+ru : gu= ignorance

and ru= enemy : enemy of ignorance. There is no scope for emotions here.

 

However: Venus is also called " sneha " : though this word has a lot of meaning

like ghee etc, basically it refers to the softness related with love. Hence,

Moon & Venus need to be considered for love. It should be remembered both of

them are karaka for the 4th house, while moon is the karaka for mother, Venus is

the karaka for vehicles. 4th house also indicates friends. In this regard also,

a friendship with opposite sex can lead to love and marriage.

 

I hope this helps you

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " bhagavathi_hariharan "

<bhagavathi_hariharan wrote:

>

> Dear Himaniji,

>

> This is a quote from

>

> UTTARAKALAMRITAM By Kalidasa

> English Translation

> By Panditabushana V. SUBRAHMANYA SASTRI B.A.,

>

> (public domain text made available by Pandit S.P.Tata for astrojyoti.com)

>

> //Sloka 38 : All about the first wife should be predicted from the 7th house

from the Lagna; about the 2nd wife from the 8th house there from, and the

successive wives found out in a similar manner.//

>

> I do not have the original verse in sanskrit. This particular verse gives a

clue that second marriage is seen from the 2nd house, as it is 8th from the 7th

house.

>

> Regards,

> bhagavathi

>

>

> , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote:

> >

> > hello Himani,

> > This has been told in earlier mails as for all marriage purposes it is

basically 7th and to find out type of marriage2nd,5th and 10th house.

> > For timing it is dasa and position of dasa lord and gochara of jupiter venus

and saturn

> > vrkrishnan

> >

> > --- On Mon, 5/25/09, himani_kanani <himani_kanani@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > himani_kanani <himani_kanani@>

> > secong marrage considerated by which house ?

> >

> > Monday, May 25, 2009, 2:33 AM

> >

> >

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> >

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> >

> >

> >

> > plz do not delete my letter i really need my questions answer and i m asking

this question 5th time everytime my letter is not added so plz do favour me .

> >

> > I m very much interested in learning astrology and regarding that my

question is that which house should be considered to know about second marrage .

> > e.g we consider 5th house for child n love 7th house for marrage thus same

way which house can be considered for second marrage i m not asking about the

planets i m asking aboust house bcoz in some books i have read that 9th house

should be considered n in some that 12th house should be considered .

> > so respected gurujans plz let me know .

> > thanks

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Dear Suresh Babu Ji

 

I hv read the slokas u hv presented. I was little perplexed on the analysis of

the second wife. My question is have u come accross any chart of any native who

has 2nd wife & what is mentioned in ur exlanation of the verse, it reflects or

shows or has any association with the second house.

 

I personaly do not agree with what has been mentioned that from the 2nd house

of any native one could see the 2nd wife.

 

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Friday, 29 May, 2009 4:23:13 PM

Re: secong marrage considerated by which house ?

 

 

 

 

 

Namasthe,

 

The original Sloka of Uttarakalaritha is

 

//aadyaaM saptamabhaavatastan u gR^ihaat bhaaryaaM tatastvaShTamaat

dvaitiiyaaM cha tathaa punaH punarapityevaM mR^itaaH syuuH khalaiH

lagnaadaShTamagaiH shubhairnahi tathaa jiivasya yogekshaNaat

saumyair jiivayutaastadiiya tanayaan vR^ittaM guNaadyaM dishet..//

 

Meaning: the first wife is to considered from the 7th of lagna (thanu) and the

8th from there should be considered for second wife (8th from the 7th = 2nd from

lagna). If these house are occupied by malefic those wife will die. If the 8th

house have a benefic planet or aspected by Jupiter this will not happen. The

character and quality of the children is known from planets associating with

Jupiter.

 

From the above, the author contends that the 2nd wife should be known from the

2nd house (kutumbha sthana) from lagna and NOT from the 2nd of the 7th (8th

house). He further alleges that if malefic planets occupies these houses (2nd &

7th ), those wives – if 7th is occupied : first wife & 2nd is occupied : 2nd

wife shall die. He also says if 8th house is having a benefic planet this will

not happen. He further moves on to explain on the quality of the children.

 

A benefic occupying the 8th house aspects 2nd house also. So also a malefic. 8th

is the 2nd house from 7th – its maraka sthana. Numerous acharyas has stated

that if 8th is occupied by a malefic, it will destroy the wife. Hence, malefic

occupying the 8th house may kill the 1st wife and since it is aspecting the 2nd

house, it may kill the 2nd wife also.

 

Since, it is death of the wives that are focused here, can we entirely take this

for granted that 2nd house should be considered for 2nd wife or should we limit

its use only to the death of 2nd wife?. As far as I am considered, I would give

more importance to the latter view (until this can be proved with a few cases

illustrated) and consider the subsequent wives from the 7th house itself as I

have stated earlier in another message. More over, a malefic in the 2nd house

may destroy his entire family, which is practically seen in many horoscopes

rather than only the second wife as stated by the author.

 

Since, I would not dare to question the author on this, I believe the focus of

the author seems to be least regarding 2nd wife, but on their death and about

children.

 

//horaadayastanukuD uMbasahothabandu

putraaripatnimaraNa ani shubhaaspadaayaaH.

riHphaakhyamityupac hayaanyarikarmal aabha

duschitkasaM~ nitagrihaaNi na nityameke../ /

 

The above verse by Mihiracharya clearly says that 2nd house is called " kutumba " -

family and 7th house is called " Patnee " – wife. Wife is only one of the

elements of a wider concept of family, while " patnee " refers specifically to

ones wife.

 

I would welcome the experience of learned astrologers on this aspect since

theory and practice vary in many cases.

 

Regarding 5 for love? I wonder how this misconception evolved. 5 house is

santhana sthana , pragna sthana , mantra sthana. None of these refers to love.

If fact, apart from factor that love may lead to children, love itself is never

meant to included in the 5th – higher intelligence.

 

Further: purusha sookta says : " chandrama manaso jatah, chaksho sooryo ajaayata "

– from the mind, moon was born and sun was born from the eyes of purusha.

Hence, we can see moon rules over the mind, emotions. Love is fiction of mind

and emotions. This has nothing to do with 5th and its karaka jupiter who is

supposed to be the ultimate Guru – the word Guru itself is gu+ru : gu=

ignorance and ru= enemy : enemy of ignorance. There is no scope for emotions

here.

 

However: Venus is also called " sneha " : though this word has a lot of meaning

like ghee etc, basically it refers to the softness related with love. Hence,

Moon & Venus need to be considered for love. It should be remembered both of

them are karaka for the 4th house, while moon is the karaka for mother, Venus is

the karaka for vehicles. 4th house also indicates friends. In this regard also,

a friendship with opposite sex can lead to love and marriage.

 

I hope this helps you

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

, " bhagavathi_ hariharan " <bhagavathi_

hariharan@ ....> wrote:

>

> Dear Himaniji,

>

> This is a quote from

>

> UTTARAKALAMRITAM By Kalidasa

> English Translation

> By Panditabushana V. SUBRAHMANYA SASTRI B.A.,

>

> (public domain text made available by Pandit S.P.Tata for astrojyoti.com)

>

> //Sloka 38 : All about the first wife should be predicted from the 7th house

from the Lagna; about the 2nd wife from the 8th house there from, and the

successive wives found out in a similar manner.//

>

> I do not have the original verse in sanskrit.. This particular verse gives a

clue that second marriage is seen from the 2nd house, as it is 8th from the 7th

house.

>

> Regards,

> bhagavathi

>

>

> , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote:

> >

> > hello Himani,

> > This has been told in earlier mails as for all marriage purposes it is

basically 7th and to find out type of marriage2nd, 5th and 10th house.

> > For timing it is dasa and position of dasa lord and gochara of jupiter venus

and saturn

> > vrkrishnan

> >

> > --- On Mon, 5/25/09, himani_kanani <himani_kanani@ > wrote:

> >

> >

> > himani_kanani <himani_kanani@ >

> > secong marrage considerated by which house ?

> >

> > Monday, May 25, 2009, 2:33 AM

> >

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> >

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> > plz do not delete my letter i really need my questions answer and i m asking

this question 5th time everytime my letter is not added so plz do favour me .

> >

> > I m very much interested in learning astrology and regarding that my

question is that which house should be considered to know about second marrage .

> > e..g we consider 5th house for child n love 7th house for marrage thus same

way which house can be considered for second marrage i m not asking about the

planets i m asking aboust house bcoz in some books i have read that 9th house

should be considered n in some that 12th house should be considered .

> > so respected gurujans plz let me know .

> > thanks

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[Guest guest]

Namasthe,

 

Dear Haresh,

 

Exactly, my view. I presented the original sloka only because Shree Bhagavathi

Hariharan mentioned it (that too as 8th house indicating the 2nd wife) which is

misinterpretation of the said verse. I only tried to gave its meaning and logic.

As stated I do not think 2nd house by itself relates to the 2nd wife (as implied

in the meaning) and only relates to the death. But logicaly first you have to

have a wife to consider her death. So you can see that there is little logic in

saying that 2nd wife can be known from 2nd house, because this mean 2nd house is

the karaka for 2nd wife just like 4th house is the karaka for mother. No where

in other classical works have I seen such contention. In fact, I have been

searching for a definitive indication ever since this discussion came up.

 

This is the whole reason, I would like to stick to the much sure method as

stated by me in an earlier message.

 

Though, I have come across many horoscopes and persons with a second marriage, I

couldnt realy relate the 2nd wife to 2nd house. that is why I welcomed all to

contribute their actual experience.

 

Theories & logic can be debated, but in the end real experience based on logic

only could be relied.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

, " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani "

<haresh1405 wrote:

>

> Dear Suresh Babu Ji

>

> I hv read the slokas u hv presented. I was little perplexed on the analysis of

the second wife. My question is have u come accross any chart of any native who

has 2nd wife & what is mentioned in ur exlanation of the verse, it reflects or

shows or has any association with the second house.

>

> I personaly do not agree with what has been mentioned that from the 2nd house

of any native one could see the 2nd wife.

>  

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>

> Friday, 29 May, 2009 4:23:13 PM

> Re: secong marrage considerated by which house ?

>

>

>

>

>

> Namasthe,

>

> The original Sloka of Uttarakalaritha is

>

> //aadyaaM saptamabhaavatastan u gR^ihaat bhaaryaaM tatastvaShTamaat

> dvaitiiyaaM cha tathaa punaH punarapityevaM mR^itaaH syuuH khalaiH

> lagnaadaShTamagaiH shubhairnahi tathaa jiivasya yogekshaNaat

> saumyair jiivayutaastadiiya tanayaan vR^ittaM guNaadyaM dishet..//

>

> Meaning: the first wife is to considered from the 7th of lagna (thanu) and the

8th from there should be considered for second wife (8th from the 7th = 2nd from

lagna). If these house are occupied by malefic those wife will die. If the 8th

house have a benefic planet or aspected by Jupiter this will not happen. The

character and quality of the children is known from planets associating with

Jupiter.

>

> From the above, the author contends that the 2nd wife should be known from the

2nd house (kutumbha sthana) from lagna and NOT from the 2nd of the 7th (8th

house). He further alleges that if malefic planets occupies these houses (2nd &

7th ), those wives †" if 7th is occupied : first wife & 2nd is occupied : 2nd

wife shall die. He also says if 8th house is having a benefic planet this will

not happen. He further moves on to explain on the quality of the children.

>

> A benefic occupying the 8th house aspects 2nd house also. So also a malefic.

8th is the 2nd house from 7th †" its maraka sthana. Numerous acharyas has

stated that if 8th is occupied by a malefic, it will destroy the wife. Hence,

malefic occupying the 8th house may kill the 1st wife and since it is aspecting

the 2nd house, it may kill the 2nd wife also.

>

> Since, it is death of the wives that are focused here, can we entirely take

this for granted that 2nd house should be considered for 2nd wife or should we

limit its use only to the death of 2nd wife?. As far as I am considered, I would

give more importance to the latter view (until this can be proved with a few

cases illustrated) and consider the subsequent wives from the 7th house itself

as I have stated earlier in another message. More over, a malefic in the 2nd

house may destroy his entire family, which is practically seen in many

horoscopes rather than only the second wife as stated by the author.

>

> Since, I would not dare to question the author on this, I believe the focus of

the author seems to be least regarding 2nd wife, but on their death and about

children.

>

> //horaadayastanukuD uMbasahothabandu

> putraaripatnimaraNa ani shubhaaspadaayaaH.

> riHphaakhyamityupac hayaanyarikarmal aabha

> duschitkasaM~ nitagrihaaNi na nityameke../ /

>

> The above verse by Mihiracharya clearly says that 2nd house is called

" kutumba " - family and 7th house is called " Patnee " †" wife. Wife is only one of

the elements of a wider concept of family, while " patnee " refers specifically to

ones wife.

>

> I would welcome the experience of learned astrologers on this aspect since

theory and practice vary in many cases.

>

> Regarding 5 for love? I wonder how this misconception evolved. 5 house is

santhana sthana , pragna sthana , mantra sthana. None of these refers to love.

If fact, apart from factor that love may lead to children, love itself is never

meant to included in the 5th †" higher intelligence.

>

> Further: purusha sookta says : " chandrama manaso jatah, chaksho sooryo

ajaayata " †" from the mind, moon was born and sun was born from the eyes of

purusha. Hence, we can see moon rules over the mind, emotions. Love is fiction

of mind and emotions. This has nothing to do with 5th and its karaka jupiter who

is supposed to be the ultimate Guru †" the word Guru itself is gu+ru : gu=

ignorance and ru= enemy : enemy of ignorance. There is no scope for emotions

here.

>

> However: Venus is also called " sneha " : though this word has a lot of meaning

like ghee etc, basically it refers to the softness related with love. Hence,

Moon & Venus need to be considered for love. It should be remembered both of

them are karaka for the 4th house, while moon is the karaka for mother, Venus is

the karaka for vehicles. 4th house also indicates friends. In this regard also,

a friendship with opposite sex can lead to love and marriage.

>

> I hope this helps you

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> , " bhagavathi_ hariharan "

<bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ....> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Himaniji,

> >

> > This is a quote from

> >

> > UTTARAKALAMRITAM By Kalidasa

> > English Translation

> > By Panditabushana V. SUBRAHMANYA SASTRI B.A.,

> >

> > (public domain text made available by Pandit S.P.Tata for astrojyoti.com)

> >

> > //Sloka 38 : All about the first wife should be predicted from the 7th house

from the Lagna; about the 2nd wife from the 8th house there from, and the

successive wives found out in a similar manner.//

> >

> > I do not have the original verse in sanskrit.. This particular verse gives a

clue that second marriage is seen from the 2nd house, as it is 8th from the 7th

house.

> >

> > Regards,

> > bhagavathi

> >

> >

> > , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > hello Himani,

> > > This has been told in earlier mails as for all marriage purposes it is

basically 7th and to find out type of marriage2nd, 5th and 10th house.

> > > For timing it is dasa and position of dasa lord and gochara of jupiter

venus and saturn

> > > vrkrishnan

> > >

> > > --- On Mon, 5/25/09, himani_kanani <himani_kanani@ > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > himani_kanani <himani_kanani@ >

> > > secong marrage considerated by which house ?

> > >

> > > Monday, May 25, 2009, 2:33 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > plz do not delete my letter i really need my questions answer and i m

asking this question 5th time everytime my letter is not added so plz do favour

me .

> > >

> > > I m very much interested in learning astrology and regarding that my

question is that which house should be considered to know about second marrage .

> > > e..g we consider 5th house for child n love 7th house for marrage thus

same way which house can be considered for second marrage i m not asking about

the planets i m asking aboust house bcoz in some books i have read that 9th

house should be considered n in some that 12th house should be considered .

> > > so respected gurujans plz let me know .

> > > thanks

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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[Guest guest]

Shenoyji,

 

Please read what I wrote properly. I have not mentioned 8H. I have mentioned 2H

which is 8th to 7H. I have copied the translation of somebody else, and not put

my own translation. This is what I wrote.

 

//Sloka 38 : All about the first wife should be predicted from the 7th house

from the Lagna; about the 2nd wife from the 8th house THERE FROM, and the

successive wives found out in a similar manner.//

 

Regards

bhagavatahi

[Guest guest]

Namasthe,

 

Dear bhagavathi

 

I beg your pardon, I must have overlooked the words " there from " . Not at all

your mistake. All the same, I have seen wrong interpretations provided in many

text books.

 

with warm regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

, " bhagavathi_hariharan "

<bhagavathi_hariharan wrote:

>

> Shenoyji,

>

> Please read what I wrote properly. I have not mentioned 8H. I have mentioned

2H which is 8th to 7H. I have copied the translation of somebody else, and not

put my own translation. This is what I wrote.

>

> //Sloka 38 : All about the first wife should be predicted from the 7th house

from the Lagna; about the 2nd wife from the 8th house THERE FROM, and the

successive wives found out in a similar manner.//

>

> Regards

> bhagavatahi

>