Guest guest Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 my birth details- 30/09/1983 at 11:15 AM AT THEOG(shimla) his birth details- 24/08/1981 at 02:50 PM at Bilaspur (chattisgarh) the prob is we r in relation since one year ..we have good chemistry so far with no obligation till now..though up n downs happened in life.. we r very much comfortable and want each other to get married...knowing kundli can creat problem in both of our family side so we promptly did kundli milan initially with software and got 34 gun match..we met astrologer as well he also suggested this as good match .. we were happy abt this progress and we took this relation deeply .. now when we want to get married the kundli was shown to two astrologer..they are giving negative feedbck... i never had knowledge about kundli but since one month i have been reading so much post and visiting website..i can now understand horoscope matchmaking little bit.. i got to knw that my Rahu in 7th house can create probs in married life which can lead to divorce etc.. he has Mars and rahu in 8th house.. he is mangli and i m non mangli.. pandit ji said it is dangerous for life of either partner to get married we may suffer sever marriage prob and death of either... these statments has depressed us so much. if this is true our parents will not allow to get marry.. however i found in one website.. " if Rahu or Ketu is in 7th or 8th house from Lagnam (Ascendant) or Chandran (Raasi known as moon sign), there is Rahu/Ketu dosham. For a match, there should be Rahu/Ketu dosham in both girl's and boy's horoscope or both horoscopes should be free from Rahu/Ketu dosham " also ..one article .....>.....>....>.... style= " vertical-align: top; " width= " 83% " > What situations in the horoscope of the spouse is treated as matching with the horoscope having " Mangal Dosh " ? If the horoscope of the spouse has any of the following star positions, it is complementary to the person having " Mangal Dosh " & hence the two can be considered to be match for each other. 1. If Saturn is in 1st, 4th, 7th, 8th or 12th house. 2. If Saturn is affecting 7th house with " 3rd or 10th Drushti " i.e. if Saturn is in 5th or 10th house. 3. If Powerful Jupiter (In Cancer, Sagittarius, Pisces or Vargottam, Uchcha Navamansh or swanavamansh etc...), or Powerful Venus (in Pisces, Taurus or Libra or Vargottam, Uchcha Navamansh, Svanavamansh etc...) is placed in 1st house, 4. If 7th house is affected by Jupiter's 5th or 9th drushti i.e. Jupiter is placed in 3rd or 11th house. 5. If Rahu or Ketu is located in 1st or 7th house. ......>.....> considering two cases above it suggest we r perfect match.. but how come different pandit ji's have different perception for this.. ...clear our dout with remedies if this is so..??????? anshika Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Dear Kamala Mangal dosha is always very dangerous, but many astrologers fail to understand. By seeing mangal in 8th house they put a fear in the natives mind that it can be fatal to ur spouse. Yes it is true but not in ur case. Why?? Mangal is debilated in ur husbands chart, & when mangal is debilated it does not has the power to do the negative aspects. Like when a army jawan is fighting he is equipped with guns/riffles & thus is able to ditter the enemy away. When he has no riffle with him, by merely seeing him in an army dress do u think any one will get scared of him, no, because he is weaponless. Similarly when mangal is debilated or neech in 8th house its negative delivery qualities are lost. Another thing, technically speaking, when mangal is neech its aspect is exalted, uunchh. When mangal has a exalted aspect will it harm anyone??. If u hate any person u will always harm him, but if u love him do u think u will hate him, u will love him more. This is what happens in case of exalted aspect. 34 gunas are matching, it is very excellent, it is like marriages are made in haven, it also indicates that in ur past birth, both of u, were husband & wife & u hv taken rebirth for unfinished marital commitments. In ur chart with ketu in ur lagna in yuti with guru gives u guru chandal yog with rahu in ur 7th house. Marital conflicts will be their but with guru in lagna will not bring marital discord. In my opinion everything is alright but it is also very important before u get married, u should the shanti yagya for rahu/ketu/mangal as mangal will deprive u of children. U should also wear a yellow sapphire & emerald gemstone as u hv kendra adipathi dosha & jupiter is the karak for ur husband. HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +91 9867214103 http://in.groups../search?query=chandra-adityaastroremedies Send your mails to Chandra-AdityaAstroRemedies To Subscribe http://in.Chandra-AdityaAstroRemedies For Professional Paid Consultancy send your mail/request for charges to haresh1405/hareshgnathani or call +91 9867214103 ________________________________ kamla_singh52 <kamla_singh52 Thursday, 4 June, 2009 1:18:14 AM gr8 jyotisacharya pls help.. anshika my birth details- 30/09/1983 at 11:15 AM AT THEOG(shimla) his birth details- 24/08/1981 at 02:50 PM at Bilaspur (chattisgarh) the prob is we r in relation since one year ..we have good chemistry so far with no obligation till now..though up n downs happened in life.. we r very much comfortable and want each other to get married...knowing kundli can creat problem in both of our family side so we promptly did kundli milan initially with software and got 34 gun match..we met astrologer as well he also suggested this as good match .. we were happy abt this progress and we took this relation deeply .. now when we want to get married the kundli was shown to two astrologer.. they are giving negative feedbck... i never had knowledge about kundli but since one month i have been reading so much post and visiting website..i can now understand horoscope matchmaking little bit.. i got to knw that my Rahu in 7th house can create probs in married life which can lead to divorce etc.. he has Mars and rahu in 8th house.. he is mangli and i m non mangli.. pandit ji said it is dangerous for life of either partner to get married we may suffer sever marriage prob and death of either.... these statments has depressed us so much. if this is true our parents will not allow to get marry.. however i found in one website.. " if Rahu or Ketu is in 7th or 8th house from Lagnam (Ascendant) or Chandran (Raasi known as moon sign), there is Rahu/Ketu dosham. For a match, there should be Rahu/Ketu dosham in both girl's and boy's horoscope or both horoscopes should be free from Rahu/Ketu dosham " also ..one article .....>.....>. ...>.... style= " vertical- align: top; " width= " 83% " > What situations in the horoscope of the spouse is treated as matching with the horoscope having " Mangal Dosh " ? If the horoscope of the spouse has any of the following star positions, it is complementary to the person having " Mangal Dosh " & hence the two can be considered to be match for each other. 1. If Saturn is in 1st, 4th, 7th, 8th or 12th house. 2. If Saturn is affecting 7th house with " 3rd or 10th Drushti " i.e. if Saturn is in 5th or 10th house.. 3. If Powerful Jupiter (In Cancer, Sagittarius, Pisces or Vargottam, Uchcha Navamansh or swanavamansh etc...), or Powerful Venus (in Pisces, Taurus or Libra or Vargottam, Uchcha Navamansh, Svanavamansh etc...) is placed in 1st house, 4. If 7th house is affected by Jupiter's 5th or 9th drushti i.e. Jupiter is placed in 3rd or 11th house. 5. If Rahu or Ketu is located in 1st or 7th house. ......>.....> considering two cases above it suggest we r perfect match.. but how come different pandit ji's have different perception for this.. ...clear our dout with remedies if this is so...??????? anshika Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel http://in.travel./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Thanks Harish ji  some astrologer said me in answer to my question .. am I so unfortunate that I will have no happiness in married life? … he answered “yes..you will have marriage and child problems with whomsoever you marry and there will no perfect match for your horsocope. It will be only manageable match.â€â€¦ also when argued about 34 gunas with my fiancie ..i got this reply below.. I m so upset ..  “……It is based on marriage signficators. There are no points here.Out of 3 planets of marriage, 2 are weak, so there will be stress in your marriage. Now what does 34 gun matching mean to you. Does it show your marriage will be successful. It proves nothing and mean nothing. Point based system is total waste system and you are taking a risk.   Everything looks good before marriage beacuse now you are blind in love. Eyes open after Marriage.  Every chart has malefic planets which create unfavorable problems. In your chart Venus and Mars are malefic planets which are in conjunction which can land you in problems regarding signfications of 6th and 12th, which are dusthana house lords. Their role is to create disturbances.  You can ask any learned astrologers what are the results of 6th Mars and 12th lord Venus in conjunction in 10th house aspects 4th house of Saturn for Scorpio lagna. Venus is related to your bed comforts or pleasures of bed and marriage signficator. Venus is related to success of marriage. This conjunction doesnot promise healthy sleeping atmosphere. There will be conflicts, arguements and obstructions to getting married.  In his chart there is malefic Moon, which is placed in house of marriage and aspects his lagna. He also has problems to marriage and personal health Those principles based on point system are actually wrong, sadly you have followed. You cannot make out which way your life will go with points. My objective is to make you aware of the difficult combination and save you……†my birth details- 30/09/1983 at 11:15 AM AT THEOG(shimla) his birth details- 24/08/1981 at 02:50 PM at Bilaspur (chattisgarh) kindly guide us through ur valuable knowledge about our marriage well being.. regards --- On Thu, 6/4/09, Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405 wrote: Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405 Re: gr8 jyotisacharya pls help.. anshika Thursday, June 4, 2009, 5:39 AM Dear Kamala  Mangal dosha is always very dangerous, but many astrologers fail to understand. By seeing mangal in 8th house they put a fear in the natives mind that it can be fatal to ur spouse. Yes it is true but not in ur case. Why??  Mangal is debilated in ur husbands chart, & when mangal is debilated it does not has the power to do the negative aspects. Like when a army jawan is fighting he is equipped with guns/riffles & thus is able to ditter the enemy away. When he has no riffle with him, by merely seeing him in an army dress do u think any one will get scared of him, no, because he is weaponless.  Similarly when mangal is debilated or neech in 8th house its negative delivery qualities are lost. Another thing, technically speaking, when mangal is neech its aspect is exalted, uunchh. When mangal has a exalted aspect will it harm anyone??. If u hate any person u will always harm him, but if u love him do u think u will hate him, u will love him more.. This is what happens in case of exalted aspect.  34 gunas are matching, it is very excellent, it is like marriages are made in haven, it also indicates that in ur past birth, both of u, were husband & wife & u hv taken rebirth for unfinished marital commitments.  In ur chart with ketu in ur lagna in yuti with guru gives u guru chandal yog with rahu in ur 7th house. Marital conflicts will be their but with guru in lagna will not bring marital discord.  In my opinion everything is alright but it is also very important before u get married, u should the shanti yagya for rahu/ketu/mangal as mangal will deprive u of children. U should also wear a yellow sapphire & emerald gemstone as u hv kendra adipathi dosha & jupiter is the karak for ur husband.  HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +91 9867214103 http://in.groups. ./ search?query= chandra-adityaas troremedies Send your mails to Chandra-AdityaAstro Remedies@ . co.in To Subscribe http://in.groups. / group/Chandra- AdityaAstroRemed ies For Professional Paid Consultancy send your mail/request for charges to haresh1405 /hareshgnathani@ or call +91 9867214103 ____________ _________ _________ __ kamla_singh52 <kamla_singh52@ > Thursday, 4 June, 2009 1:18:14 AM gr8 jyotisacharya pls help.. anshika my birth details- 30/09/1983 at 11:15 AM AT THEOG(shimla) his birth details- 24/08/1981 at 02:50 PM at Bilaspur (chattisgarh) the prob is we r in relation since one year ..we have good chemistry so far with no obligation till now..though up n downs happened in life.. we r very much comfortable and want each other to get married...knowing kundli can creat problem in both of our family side so we promptly did kundli milan initially with software and got 34 gun match..we met astrologer as well he also suggested this as good match .. we were happy abt this progress and we took this relation deeply .. now when we want to get married the kundli was shown to two astrologer.. they are giving negative feedbck... i never had knowledge about kundli but since one month i have been reading so much post and visiting website..i can now understand horoscope matchmaking little bit.. i got to knw that my Rahu in 7th house can create probs in married life which can lead to divorce etc.. he has Mars and rahu in 8th house.. he is mangli and i m non mangli.. pandit ji said it is dangerous for life of either partner to get married we may suffer sever marriage prob and death of either.... these statments has depressed us so much. if this is true our parents will not allow to get marry.. however i found in one website.. " if Rahu or Ketu is in 7th or 8th house from Lagnam (Ascendant) or Chandran (Raasi known as moon sign), there is Rahu/Ketu dosham. For a match, there should be Rahu/Ketu dosham in both girl's and boy's horoscope or both horoscopes should be free from Rahu/Ketu dosham " also ..one article .....>.....>. ...>.... style= " vertical- align: top; " width= " 83% " > What situations in the horoscope of the spouse is treated as matching with the horoscope having " Mangal Dosh " ? If the horoscope of the spouse has any of the following star positions, it is complementary to the person having " Mangal Dosh " & hence the two can be considered to be match for each other. 1. If Saturn is in 1st, 4th, 7th, 8th or 12th house. 2. If Saturn is affecting 7th house with " 3rd or 10th Drushti " i.e. if Saturn is in 5th or 10th house.. 3. If Powerful Jupiter (In Cancer, Sagittarius, Pisces or Vargottam, Uchcha Navamansh or swanavamansh etc...), or Powerful Venus (in Pisces, Taurus or Libra or Vargottam, Uchcha Navamansh, Svanavamansh etc...) is placed in 1st house, 4. If 7th house is affected by Jupiter's 5th or 9th drushti i.e. Jupiter is placed in 3rd or 11th house. 5. If Rahu or Ketu is located in 1st or 7th house. ......>.....> considering two cases above it suggest we r perfect match.. but how come different pandit ji's have different perception for this.. ...clear our dout with remedies if this is so...??????? anshika Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel http://in.travel. / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Thanx Pandit ji some astrologer said me in answer to my question .. am I so unfortunate that I will have no happiness in married life? … he answered " yes..you will have marriage and child problems with whomsoever you marry and there will no perfect match for your horsocope. It will be only manageable match. " … also when argued about 34 gunas with my fiancie ..i got this reply below.. I m so upset .. " ……It is based on marriage signficators. There are no points here.Out of 3 planets of marriage, 2 are weak, so there will be stress in your marriage. Now what does 34 gun matching mean to you. Does it show your marriage will be successful. It proves nothing and mean nothing. Point based system is total waste system and you are taking a risk. Everything looks good before marriage beacuse now you are blind in love. Eyes open after Marriage. Saturn rules 4th house, mother, marital happiness, mental peace, assets is badly placed in 12th house of loss and increased expenses. This is weak position for marriage and can bring loss, conflicts and court case in marriage and assets. It also bring difficulties for mother. Venus rules 12th house is in conjunction with malefic Mars, which can give stress to your marriage with conflicts, bed comforts. Weakness of Saturn and Venus can bring obstructions and separation in Marriage. Every chart has malefic planets which create unfavorable problems. In your chart Venus and Mars are malefic planets which are in conjunction which can land you in problems regarding signfications of 6th and 12th, which are dusthana house lords. Their role is to create disturbances. You can ask any learned astrologers what are the results of 6th Mars and 12th lord Venus in conjunction in 10th house aspects 4th house of Saturn for Scorpio lagna. Venus is related to your bed comforts or pleasures of bed and marriage signficator. Venus is related to success of marriage. This conjunction doesnot promise healthy sleeping atmosphere. There will be conflicts, arguements and obstructions to getting married. In his chart there is malefic Moon, which is placed in house of marriage and aspects his lagna. He also has problems to marriage and personal health Those principles based on point system are actually wrong, sadly you have followed. You cannot make out which way your life will go with points. My objective is to make you aware of the difficult combination and save you…… " my birth details- 30/09/1983 at 11:15 AM AT THEOG(shimla) his birth details- 24/08/1981 at 02:50 PM at Bilaspur (chattisgarh) kindly guide us through ur valuable knowledge about our marriage well being. regards Anshika , " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " <haresh1405 wrote: > > Dear Kamala > > Mangal dosha is always very dangerous, but many astrologers fail to understand. By seeing mangal in 8th house they put a fear in the natives mind that it can be fatal to ur spouse. Yes it is true but not in ur case. Why?? > > Mangal is debilated in ur husbands chart, & when mangal is debilated it does not has the power to do the negative aspects. Like when a army jawan is fighting he is equipped with guns/riffles & thus is able to ditter the enemy away. When he has no riffle with him, by merely seeing him in an army dress do u think any one will get scared of him, no, because he is weaponless. > > Similarly when mangal is debilated or neech in 8th house its negative delivery qualities are lost. Another thing, technically speaking, when mangal is neech its aspect is exalted, uunchh. When mangal has a exalted aspect will it harm anyone??. If u hate any person u will always harm him, but if u love him do u think u will hate him, u will love him more. This is what happens in case of exalted aspect. > > 34 gunas are matching, it is very excellent, it is like marriages are made in haven, it also indicates that in ur past birth, both of u, were husband & wife & u hv taken rebirth for unfinished marital commitments. > > In ur chart with ketu in ur lagna in yuti with guru gives u guru chandal yog with rahu in ur 7th house. Marital conflicts will be their but with guru in lagna will not bring marital discord. > > In my opinion everything is alright but it is also very important before u get married, u should the shanti yagya for rahu/ketu/mangal as mangal will deprive u of children. U should also wear a yellow sapphire & emerald gemstone as u hv kendra adipathi dosha & jupiter is the karak for ur husband. > > > HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +91 9867214103 > http://in.groups../search?query=chandra-adityaastroremedies > Send your mails to Chandra-AdityaAstroRemedies > To Subscribe > http://in.Chandra-AdityaAstroRemedies > For Professional Paid Consultancy send your mail/request for charges to > haresh1405/hareshgnathani or call +91 9867214103 > > > > > > ________________________________ > kamla_singh52 <kamla_singh52 > > Thursday, 4 June, 2009 1:18:14 AM > gr8 jyotisacharya pls help.. anshika > > > > > > my birth details- 30/09/1983 at 11:15 AM AT THEOG(shimla) > his birth details- 24/08/1981 at 02:50 PM at Bilaspur (chattisgarh) > the prob is we r in relation since one year ..we have good chemistry so far with no obligation till now..though up n downs happened in life.. we r very much comfortable and want each other to get married...knowing kundli can creat problem in both of our family side so we promptly did kundli milan initially with software and got 34 gun match..we met astrologer as well he also suggested this as good match .. we were happy abt this progress and we took this relation deeply .. now when we want to get married the kundli was shown to two astrologer.. they are giving negative feedbck... > i never had knowledge about kundli but since one month i have been reading so much post and visiting website..i can now understand horoscope matchmaking little bit.. i got to knw that my Rahu in 7th house can create probs in married life which can lead to divorce etc.. he has Mars and rahu in 8th house.. he is mangli and i m non mangli.. pandit ji said it is dangerous for life of either partner to get married we may suffer sever marriage prob and death of either.... these statments has depressed us so much. if this is true our parents will not allow to get marry.. > however i found in one website.. > " if Rahu or Ketu is in 7th or 8th house from Lagnam (Ascendant) or Chandran (Raasi known as moon sign), there is Rahu/Ketu dosham. For a match, there should be Rahu/Ketu dosham in both girl's and boy's horoscope or both horoscopes should be free from Rahu/Ketu dosham " > > also ..one article > > ....>.....>. ...>.... style= " vertical- align: top; " width= " 83% " > > What situations in the horoscope of the spouse is treated as matching with the horoscope having " Mangal Dosh " ? > If the horoscope of the spouse has any of the following star positions, it is complementary to the person having " Mangal Dosh " & hence the two can be considered to be match for each other. > > 1. If Saturn is in 1st, 4th, 7th, 8th or 12th house. > 2. If Saturn is affecting 7th house with " 3rd or 10th Drushti " i.e. if Saturn is in 5th or 10th house.. > 3. If Powerful Jupiter (In Cancer, Sagittarius, Pisces or Vargottam, Uchcha Navamansh or swanavamansh etc...), or Powerful Venus (in Pisces, Taurus or Libra or Vargottam, Uchcha Navamansh, Svanavamansh etc...) is placed in 1st house, > 4. If 7th house is affected by Jupiter's 5th or 9th drushti i.e. Jupiter is placed in 3rd or 11th house. > 5. If Rahu or Ketu is located in 1st or 7th house. > > .....>.....> > > considering two cases above it suggest we r perfect match.. but how come different pandit ji's have different perception for this.. > ..clear our dout with remedies if this is so...??????? > > anshika > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel http://in.travel./ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Namasthe, I am replying to this only because you have conveyed some views which are totaly based on ignorence of misleading. Matching horoscopes is not simple task of matching points alone (if you understand them properly). Basis of points tallying is very complex and difficult to understand. That is why most of the astrologt text do not explain its relevance and the reason to such comments. Even experienced astrologers (20-30 years or above) falter in these matters. So you imagine a freshers position. I have explained the process of matching in other posts, which you can search from this forum itself. As for the points based matching, I shall give you a few examples which should impress on the importance of it. " Mahendra " is to find regarding children. It actually checks for blood type which is pointer to RH factor (not that it is very important no-a-days). " Vasya " . Even in love marriage, you will come to know that real life is not all that sweet and fantacy. This gives a indication whether the couples shall hold together even in turbulant times or go seperate ways at the first sneeze. " Yoni " - Sexual organs of male & female are classified into several forms and there are perfect fits & mis-fits. you can imagine what will hapen if it mis fits and type of behavior also. " Gana " - refers to progeny - it is like this. The best race horse are reared carefully considering its pedegree. so are dogs. what about humans?. you can understand what I mean. These are only some of them. the rest you can find yourself. Just remember one thing. These matters are not given in the text because our acharyas did not had nothing else to do. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. , kamla singh <kamla_singh52 wrote: Thanks Harish ji > >  > > some astrologer said me > in answer to my question .. am I so unfortunate that I will have no happiness > in married life? … he answered “yes..you > will have marriage and child problems with whomsoever you marry and there will > no perfect match for your horsocope. It will be only manageable match.â€â€¦ > > also when argued about 34 gunas with my fiancie ..i got this reply below.. I > m so upset ..  > > “……It is based on > marriage signficators. > There are no points here.Out of 3 planets of marriage, 2 are weak, so there > will be stress in your marriage. Now what does 34 gun matching mean to you. > Does it show your marriage will be successful. It proves nothing and mean > nothing. > > Point based system is total > waste system and you are taking a risk.  > >  Everything looks good > before marriage beacuse now you are blind in love. Eyes open after Marriage. > >  Every chart has > malefic planets which create unfavorable problems. In your chart Venus and Mars > are malefic planets which are in conjunction which can land you in problems > regarding signfications of 6th and 12th, which are dusthana house lords. Their > role is to create disturbances. > >  You can ask any > learned astrologers what are the results of 6th Mars and 12th lord Venus in > conjunction in 10th house aspects 4th house of Saturn for Scorpio lagna. > > Venus is related to your > bed comforts or pleasures of bed and marriage signficator. Venus is related to > success of marriage. This conjunction doesnot promise healthy sleeping > atmosphere. There will be conflicts, arguements and obstructions to > getting married.  > > In his chart there is > malefic Moon, which is placed in house of marriage and aspects his lagna. He > also has problems to marriage and personal health > > Those principles based on > point system are actually wrong, sadly you have followed. You cannot make out > which way your life will go with points. > > My objective is to make you > aware of the difficult combination and save you……†> my birth details- 30/09/1983 at 11:15 AM AT THEOG(shimla) > > his birth details- 24/08/1981 at 02:50 PM at Bilaspur (chattisgarh) > kindly guide us through ur valuable knowledge about our marriage well being.. > regards > > > > --- On Thu, 6/4/09, Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405 wrote: > > Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405 > Re: gr8 jyotisacharya pls help.. anshika > > Thursday, June 4, 2009, 5:39 AM > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kamala > >  > > Mangal dosha is always very dangerous, but many astrologers fail to understand. By seeing mangal in 8th house they put a fear in the natives mind that it can be fatal to ur spouse. Yes it is true but not in ur case. Why?? > >  > > Mangal is debilated in ur husbands chart, & when mangal is debilated it does not has the power to do the negative aspects. Like when a army jawan is fighting he is equipped with guns/riffles & thus is able to ditter the enemy away. When he has no riffle with him, by merely seeing him in an army dress do u think any one will get scared of him, no, because he is weaponless. > >  > > Similarly when mangal is debilated or neech in 8th house its negative delivery qualities are lost. Another thing, technically speaking, when mangal is neech its aspect is exalted, uunchh. When mangal has a exalted aspect will it harm anyone??. If u hate any person u will always harm him, but if u love him do u think u will hate him, u will love him more.. This is what happens in case of exalted aspect. > >  > > 34 gunas are matching, it is very excellent, it is like marriages are made in haven, it also indicates that in ur past birth, both of u, were husband & wife & u hv taken rebirth for unfinished marital commitments. > >  > > In ur chart with ketu in ur lagna in yuti with guru gives u guru chandal yog with rahu in ur 7th house. Marital conflicts will be their but with guru in lagna will not bring marital discord. > >  > > In my opinion everything is alright but it is also very important before u get married, u should the shanti yagya for rahu/ketu/mangal as mangal will deprive u of children. U should also wear a yellow sapphire & emerald gemstone as u hv kendra adipathi dosha & jupiter is the karak for ur husband. > > > >  > > HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +91 9867214103 > > http://in.groups. ./ search?query= chandra-adityaas troremedies > > Send your mails to Chandra-AdityaAstro Remedies@ . co.in > > To Subscribe > > http://in.groups. / group/Chandra- AdityaAstroRemed ies > > For Professional Paid Consultancy send your mail/request for charges to > > haresh1405 /hareshgnathani@ or call +91 9867214103 > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > kamla_singh52 <kamla_singh52@ > > > > > Thursday, 4 June, 2009 1:18:14 AM > > gr8 jyotisacharya pls help.. anshika > > > > my birth details- 30/09/1983 at 11:15 AM AT THEOG(shimla) > > his birth details- 24/08/1981 at 02:50 PM at Bilaspur (chattisgarh) > > the prob is we r in relation since one year ..we have good chemistry so far with no obligation till now..though up n downs happened in life.. we r very much comfortable and want each other to get married...knowing kundli can creat problem in both of our family side so we promptly did kundli milan initially with software and got 34 gun match..we met astrologer as well he also suggested this as good match .. we were happy abt this progress and we took this relation deeply .. now when we want to get married the kundli was shown to two astrologer.. they are giving negative feedbck... > > i never had knowledge about kundli but since one month i have been reading so much post and visiting website..i can now understand horoscope matchmaking little bit.. i got to knw that my Rahu in 7th house can create probs in married life which can lead to divorce etc.. he has Mars and rahu in 8th house.. he is mangli and i m non mangli.. pandit ji said it is dangerous for life of either partner to get married we may suffer sever marriage prob and death of either.... these statments has depressed us so much. if this is true our parents will not allow to get marry.. > > however i found in one website.. > > " if Rahu or Ketu is in 7th or 8th house from Lagnam (Ascendant) or Chandran (Raasi known as moon sign), there is Rahu/Ketu dosham. For a match, there should be Rahu/Ketu dosham in both girl's and boy's horoscope or both horoscopes should be free from Rahu/Ketu dosham " > > > > also ..one article > > > > ....>.....>. ...>.... style= " vertical- align: top; " width= " 83% " > > > What situations in the horoscope of the spouse is treated as matching with the horoscope having " Mangal Dosh " ? > > If the horoscope of the spouse has any of the following star positions, it is complementary to the person having " Mangal Dosh " & hence the two can be considered to be match for each other. > > > > 1. If Saturn is in 1st, 4th, 7th, 8th or 12th house. > > 2. If Saturn is affecting 7th house with " 3rd or 10th Drushti " i.e. if Saturn is in 5th or 10th house.. > > 3. If Powerful Jupiter (In Cancer, Sagittarius, Pisces or Vargottam, Uchcha Navamansh or swanavamansh etc...), or Powerful Venus (in Pisces, Taurus or Libra or Vargottam, Uchcha Navamansh, Svanavamansh etc...) is placed in 1st house, > > 4. If 7th house is affected by Jupiter's 5th or 9th drushti i.e. Jupiter is placed in 3rd or 11th house. > > 5. If Rahu or Ketu is located in 1st or 7th house. > > > > .....>.....> > > > > considering two cases above it suggest we r perfect match.. but how come different pandit ji's have different perception for this.. > > ..clear our dout with remedies if this is so...??????? > > > > anshika > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel http://in.travel. / > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 namaste Suresh ji i couldnt conclude anything from your mail. I understand from your mail that Astrology is very complex.but How can any Acharyas can disregard this study by saying ' point based system is totally waste system'. and if there are two ways to do match making, then how come in one system 'gunas milan' for 34 gunas one says this is best match and other says planets position are such that you both couple will have divorce,separation etc in due coarse of time. how can the same principle of study says one thing in two extreme different ways. do you have answer to my quiry below. i m very upset hearing that i m not fortunate enough to live my married life happily. Different acharyas says different things ..whom i must go. i respect astrology but because of these misleading replies i m very disappointed . alike me this is how people start disregarding this study. regards Anshika --- On Thu, 6/4/09, sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag wrote: sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag Re: gr8 jyotisacharya pls help.. anshika Thursday, June 4, 2009, 1:15 PM Namasthe, I am replying to this only because you have conveyed some views which are totaly based on ignorence of misleading. Matching horoscopes is not simple task of matching points alone (if you understand them properly). Basis of points tallying is very complex and difficult to understand. That is why most of the astrologt text do not explain its relevance and the reason to such comments. Even experienced astrologers (20-30 years or above) falter in these matters. So you imagine a freshers position. I have explained the process of matching in other posts, which you can search from this forum itself. As for the points based matching, I shall give you a few examples which should impress on the importance of it. " Mahendra " is to find regarding children. It actually checks for blood type which is pointer to RH factor (not that it is very important no-a-days).. " Vasya " . Even in love marriage, you will come to know that real life is not all that sweet and fantacy. This gives a indication whether the couples shall hold together even in turbulant times or go seperate ways at the first sneeze. " Yoni " - Sexual organs of male & female are classified into several forms and there are perfect fits & mis-fits. you can imagine what will hapen if it mis fits and type of behavior also. " Gana " - refers to progeny - it is like this. The best race horse are reared carefully considering its pedegree. so are dogs. what about humans?. you can understand what I mean. These are only some of them. the rest you can find yourself. Just remember one thing. These matters are not given in the text because our acharyas did not had nothing else to do. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. , kamla singh <kamla_singh52@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks Harish ji > >  > > some astrologer said me > in answer to my question .. am I so unfortunate that I will have no happiness > in married life? … he answered “yes..you > will have marriage and child problems with whomsoever you marry and there will > no perfect match for your horsocope. It will be only manageable match.â€â€¦ > > also when argued about 34 gunas with my fiancie ..i got this reply below.. I > m so upset ..  > > “……It is based on > marriage signficators. > There are no points here.Out of 3 planets of marriage, 2 are weak, so there > will be stress in your marriage. Now what does 34 gun matching mean to you. > Does it show your marriage will be successful. It proves nothing and mean > nothing. > > Point based system is total > waste system and you are taking a risk.  > >  Everything looks good > before marriage beacuse now you are blind in love. Eyes open after Marriage. > >  Every chart has > malefic planets which create unfavorable problems. In your chart Venus and Mars > are malefic planets which are in conjunction which can land you in problems > regarding signfications of 6th and 12th, which are dusthana house lords. Their > role is to create disturbances. > >  You can ask any > learned astrologers what are the results of 6th Mars and 12th lord Venus in > conjunction in 10th house aspects 4th house of Saturn for Scorpio lagna. > > Venus is related to your > bed comforts or pleasures of bed and marriage signficator. Venus is related to > success of marriage. This conjunction doesnot promise healthy sleeping > atmosphere. There will be conflicts, arguements and obstructions to > getting married.  > > In his chart there is > malefic Moon, which is placed in house of marriage and aspects his lagna. He > also has problems to marriage and personal health > > Those principles based on > point system are actually wrong, sadly you have followed. You cannot make out > which way your life will go with points. > > My objective is to make you > aware of the difficult combination and save you……†> my birth details- 30/09/1983 at 11:15 AM AT THEOG(shimla) > > his birth details- 24/08/1981 at 02:50 PM at Bilaspur (chattisgarh) > kindly guide us through ur valuable knowledge about our marriage well being.. > regards > > > > --- On Thu, 6/4/09, Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405@ ...> wrote: > > Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405@ ...> > Re: gr8 jyotisacharya pls help.. anshika > > Thursday, June 4, 2009, 5:39 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kamala > >  > > Mangal dosha is always very dangerous, but many astrologers fail to understand. By seeing mangal in 8th house they put a fear in the natives mind that it can be fatal to ur spouse. Yes it is true but not in ur case. Why?? > >  > > Mangal is debilated in ur husbands chart, & when mangal is debilated it does not has the power to do the negative aspects. Like when a army jawan is fighting he is equipped with guns/riffles & thus is able to ditter the enemy away. When he has no riffle with him, by merely seeing him in an army dress do u think any one will get scared of him, no, because he is weaponless. > >  > > Similarly when mangal is debilated or neech in 8th house its negative delivery qualities are lost. Another thing, technically speaking, when mangal is neech its aspect is exalted, uunchh. When mangal has a exalted aspect will it harm anyone??. If u hate any person u will always harm him, but if u love him do u think u will hate him, u will love him more... This is what happens in case of exalted aspect. > >  > > 34 gunas are matching, it is very excellent, it is like marriages are made in haven, it also indicates that in ur past birth, both of u, were husband & wife & u hv taken rebirth for unfinished marital commitments. > >  > > In ur chart with ketu in ur lagna in yuti with guru gives u guru chandal yog with rahu in ur 7th house. Marital conflicts will be their but with guru in lagna will not bring marital discord. > >  > > In my opinion everything is alright but it is also very important before u get married, u should the shanti yagya for rahu/ketu/mangal as mangal will deprive u of children. U should also wear a yellow sapphire & emerald gemstone as u hv kendra adipathi dosha & jupiter is the karak for ur husband. > > > >  > > HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +91 9867214103 > > http://in.groups. ./ search?query= chandra-adityaas troremedies > > Send your mails to Chandra-AdityaAstro Remedies@ . co.in > > To Subscribe > > http://in.groups. / group/Chandra- AdityaAstroRemed ies > > For Professional Paid Consultancy send your mail/request for charges to > > haresh1405 /hareshgnathani@ or call +91 9867214103 > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > kamla_singh52 <kamla_singh52@ > > > > > Thursday, 4 June, 2009 1:18:14 AM > > gr8 jyotisacharya pls help.. anshika > > > > my birth details- 30/09/1983 at 11:15 AM AT THEOG(shimla) > > his birth details- 24/08/1981 at 02:50 PM at Bilaspur (chattisgarh) > > the prob is we r in relation since one year ..we have good chemistry so far with no obligation till now..though up n downs happened in life.. we r very much comfortable and want each other to get married...knowing kundli can creat problem in both of our family side so we promptly did kundli milan initially with software and got 34 gun match..we met astrologer as well he also suggested this as good match .. we were happy abt this progress and we took this relation deeply .. now when we want to get married the kundli was shown to two astrologer.. they are giving negative feedbck... > > i never had knowledge about kundli but since one month i have been reading so much post and visiting website..i can now understand horoscope matchmaking little bit.. i got to knw that my Rahu in 7th house can create probs in married life which can lead to divorce etc.. he has Mars and rahu in 8th house.. he is mangli and i m non mangli.. pandit ji said it is dangerous for life of either partner to get married we may suffer sever marriage prob and death of either.... these statments has depressed us so much. if this is true our parents will not allow to get marry.. > > however i found in one website.. > > " if Rahu or Ketu is in 7th or 8th house from Lagnam (Ascendant) or Chandran (Raasi known as moon sign), there is Rahu/Ketu dosham. For a match, there should be Rahu/Ketu dosham in both girl's and boy's horoscope or both horoscopes should be free from Rahu/Ketu dosham " > > > > also ..one article > > > > ....>.....>. ...>.... style= " vertical- align: top; " width= " 83% " > > > What situations in the horoscope of the spouse is treated as matching with the horoscope having " Mangal Dosh " ? > > If the horoscope of the spouse has any of the following star positions, it is complementary to the person having " Mangal Dosh " & hence the two can be considered to be match for each other. > > > > 1. If Saturn is in 1st, 4th, 7th, 8th or 12th house. > > 2. If Saturn is affecting 7th house with " 3rd or 10th Drushti " i.e. if Saturn is in 5th or 10th house.. > > 3. If Powerful Jupiter (In Cancer, Sagittarius, Pisces or Vargottam, Uchcha Navamansh or swanavamansh etc...), or Powerful Venus (in Pisces, Taurus or Libra or Vargottam, Uchcha Navamansh, Svanavamansh etc...) is placed in 1st house, > > 4. If 7th house is affected by Jupiter's 5th or 9th drushti i.e. Jupiter is placed in 3rd or 11th house. > > 5. If Rahu or Ketu is located in 1st or 7th house. > > > > .....>.....> > > > > considering two cases above it suggest we r perfect match.. but how come different pandit ji's have different perception for this.. > > ..clear our dout with remedies if this is so...??????? > > > > anshika > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel http://in.travel. / > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Namasthe, Though it is my intention to teach you astrology & matching of horoscopes, which you can do otherwise, the following should give you some idea about the process and the reason for difference in opinions. For specific understanding on each type of factors you can refer astrology texts. Matching of horoscopes & its concept. Marriage in India is considered very sacred and is generally a life time involvement and is never intended to be divorced. It is also based solidly on a high amount of philosophical values and off course material ones also. That is why matching is given such high importance in India Astrology. It is also a wrong myth that couples with perfect matching shall have a perfect married life. A well matched horoscope simply means that these persons are destined to live together, enjoy happiness / sorrow together etc. as an added benefit other factors like financial, children, health, sickness, life of marriage etc. In fact if you shift the focus from life of two people to life of marriage / partnership, the concept will be clearer and surprisingly you can use the same concept in other partnership situations like in business. I shall try to give concisely the process of matching. There are various factors that are considered in the process and conclusion is reached based on experience. These factors also differ according to the system followed in each region. However, the basic concept remains the same. Most important and popularly used 1) Nakshatra based compatability 2) Papa samya – based on the malefic planets afflicting the 7th house 3) Dasa sandhi – based on vimsottari dasa (other dasas may also be considered for conformation of effects) 4) Rina-dhana compatability : based on relationship of planets. Less popular but used in some regions. 1) Mriga : Based on the classification of nakshtras & animals 2) Pancha bhoota : based on pancha bhootha classification of nakshatras 3) Ashta varga : based on Ashta varga points. 4) Gotra : based on Gotra (lineage classification) of nakshatras 5) Aya – vyaya : based on profit & loss classification 6) Varna : Based on the classification of nakshatras & Varna (Brahmana, kshatriya, vaisya & shoodra) 7) Bird : based on the classification of Nakshtras & birds 8) Vaya – age difference. 9) Chaulanukulyam 10) Pandyanukulyam Summary of all the above is evaluated and a conclusion is reached in determining the matching of horoscope. What one has to remember is no marriage can be considered 100% perfect. This means there could shortfall in some of the factors like a) general relationship between couples – which may termed as love life or affection to each other b) financial condition after marriage (excluding dowry and such gains) c) Children, their health, prosperity, character & quality, numbers d) Health of couples e) Span of marriage – considered in terms of life span of one or both person. Apart from the above, today an astrologer is burdend with such aspects like job prospects, education and many irrelevant to the concept of marriage but considered more relevant in materialist life as focused today. The concept of marriage and for that matter Indian philosophy of life can be better understood if we look at the most important statement in astrology " Mana porutham sarvadhanaal pradhanam " . Compatibility of mind is more important that every thing else. Else what ? all the above computed compatibilities. Does it mean if mental compatibility exists, every other factor would be all right and they will prosperous? NO it simply is a bold declaration that the couples understand and undertake that they shall bear any consequences whether good or bad, but live together. However, in real life we know that love is only fiction of mind and most of it based on fantasy. When the fantasies are over, the hard realities of life open up and couples realize that this is not what they had perceived. In fact, aged people know that relationship materializes into love & affection over a period of time when the couples hold together through good & bad times. Unfortunately, today young people do not realize this basic constitution of a relationship. That is why the astrology has given a special weighteage to look into compatibility of horoscopes. Explanation of factors Nakshatra Koota : this checking considers such factors like nakshtra, such factors based on nakshtra as gana, yoni etc, rasi (Chandra rasi is most considered) , lord of rasi etc, distance of Chandra Nakshatra of the male from the Chandra nakshatra of the female horoscope. The number of conditions checked varies from region to region. In kerala 8 such factors are checked and add to this two more factors like veda & reju dosha makes the total number to 10. in north India about 40 are checked. 1) Rasi 2) Adhipathy 3) Vashyam 4) Mahendram 5) Gana 6) Yoni 7) Deena 8) Stree deergha 9) Reju dosha 10) Veda dosha Apart from these a) nakshtra pada dosha like , 64 pada, 88 pada, 108 pada is also checked b) Nadi based on nakshtra All the above depends on fixed factors and practically there is no need for analysis and hence can be presented in terms of points Papa samya. This is the most complex. Though points are considered, they affliction, their total effects can only be evaluated by an experienced astrologer. Here exceptions sited also should be considered before a final verdict is given. This is where the opinion of most of the astrologers differ either because exceptions are not considered or due to weighteage given by individual astrologers – may be due to their lack of knowledge or experience – which is not easy to find out. Basicaly this factor takes the malefic planets in the seventh of both horoscope , and other factors as given below a) 7th from lagna, Chandra & venus are considered. b) Malefic in the 4th & 8th of venus c) In female horoscope malefic planet in the 8th house is specifically considered since this is considered as Mangalya sthana. The word mangalya implies that she should die before her husband with her mangalya sootra. Hence, if there are no malefic planets in the 8th house, it is generally considered that her husband shall live longer than her. The chart should be studied in total to verify this further. Dasa Sandhi This depends of the dasa in effect of both couples. If the changes within a year in both horoscopes, this is considered as sandhi period. Here also, an astrologer should consider the malefic effects of the oncoming dasa, maraca factors etc. dasa of malefic if starts in this sandhi period may bring consideral hardships, illness, dangers and even death to either one or both of couples. This is actual experience and considered very important in kerala. Kuja – rahu sandhi during this period (one year) if happens in either horoscopes should be considered very dangerous unless other good factors like benefic aspects, strong lagna lord , vargottamasa etc which point to long life span of both exists. Sandhi of benefic planets if they are not having maraca afflictions of kendradhipathya dosha may be less dangerous but some health issues can be expected. In some region the sandhi period of only six months is considered while this is not considered at all in yet other regions. Rina – dhana These are considered as factors that point to even an existing relationship from previous life of the couples. Hence if factors are strong, we can assume that the relationship is strong inspite of the lower number of points and other malefic issues cited earlier and they will marry Though many factors are given to check this, the most important are these. a) Chandra lagna in one horoscope should be in the 7th of the other, in the rasi occupied by the 7th lord, its navamsa, its ucha rasi or neecha rasi. b) Similarly check from lagna and venus c) Similarly check from other horoscope. More number of such relationship points to a firm compatibility and is considered very good. Always remember that there are many exceptions cited for most of the factors. This is what makes the matching a more complex affair. Since it is extremely difficult and near impossibility for a 100% perfect match, it also becomes a matter of weighing gains & losses. While some astrologers out of their sincerity stand adamant in their opinion other may like to be practical and shut their eyes even though a few problems are visible. It also depend hugely on situations. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , kamla singh <kamla_singh52 wrote: > > namaste Suresh ji > > i couldnt conclude anything from your mail. I understand from your mail that Astrology is very complex.but How can any Acharyas can disregard this study by saying ' point based system is totally waste system'. and if there are two ways to do match making, then how come in one system 'gunas milan' for 34 gunas one says this is best match and other says planets position are such that you both couple will have divorce,separation etc in due coarse of time. how can the same principle of study says one thing in two extreme different ways. > > do you have answer to my quiry below. i m very upset hearing that i m not fortunate enough to live my married life happily. Different acharyas says different things ..whom i must go. i respect astrology but because of these misleading replies i m very disappointed . alike me this is how people start disregarding this study. > > regards > > Anshika > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Dear friend, I am seeing your chart with KP astrology. As I see you both are definately going to marry what so ever anybody -pandit or astrologer says. Secondly you are so close to each other and have philosphical mind set that smaller things and troubles will be easily taken. Thirdly there is no dangers to your life etc except that you move the life very slowly and carefully. Try avoid having intimate relations with other friends. So be happy and enjoy life and forget astrology. Inder , " kamla_singh52 " <kamla_singh52 wrote: > > my birth details- 30/09/1983 at 11:15 AM AT THEOG(shimla) > his birth details- 24/08/1981 at 02:50 PM at Bilaspur (chattisgarh) > the prob is we r in relation since one year ..we have good chemistry so far with no obligation till now..though up n downs happened in life.. we r very much comfortable and want each other to get married...knowing kundli can creat problem in both of our family side so we promptly did kundli milan initially with software and got 34 gun match..we met astrologer as well he also suggested this as good match .. we were happy abt this progress and we took this relation deeply .. now when we want to get married the kundli was shown to two astrologer..they are giving negative feedbck... > i never had knowledge about kundli but since one month i have been reading so much post and visiting website..i can now understand horoscope matchmaking little bit.. i got to knw that my Rahu in 7th house can create probs in married life which can lead to divorce etc.. he has Mars and rahu in 8th house.. he is mangli and i m non mangli.. pandit ji said it is dangerous for life of either partner to get married we may suffer sever marriage prob and death of either... these statments has depressed us so much. if this is true our parents will not allow to get marry.. > however i found in one website.. > " if Rahu or Ketu is in 7th or 8th house from Lagnam (Ascendant) or Chandran (Raasi known as moon sign), there is Rahu/Ketu dosham. For a match, there should be Rahu/Ketu dosham in both girl's and boy's horoscope or both horoscopes should be free from Rahu/Ketu dosham " > > also ..one article > > ....>.....>....>.... style= " vertical-align: top; " width= " 83% " > > What situations in the horoscope of the spouse is treated as matching with the horoscope having " Mangal Dosh " ? > If the horoscope of the spouse has any of the following star positions, it is complementary to the person having " Mangal Dosh " & hence the two can be considered to be match for each other. > > 1. If Saturn is in 1st, 4th, 7th, 8th or 12th house. > 2. If Saturn is affecting 7th house with " 3rd or 10th Drushti " i.e. if Saturn is in 5th or 10th house. > 3. If Powerful Jupiter (In Cancer, Sagittarius, Pisces or Vargottam, Uchcha Navamansh or swanavamansh etc...), or Powerful Venus (in Pisces, Taurus or Libra or Vargottam, Uchcha Navamansh, Svanavamansh etc...) is placed in 1st house, > 4. If 7th house is affected by Jupiter's 5th or 9th drushti i.e. Jupiter is placed in 3rd or 11th house. > 5. If Rahu or Ketu is located in 1st or 7th house. > > .....>.....> > > > considering two cases above it suggest we r perfect match.. but how come different pandit ji's have different perception for this.. > ..clear our dout with remedies if this is so..??????? > > anshika > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Anishka Ji. A prolific writer MS Gaytri Vasudev in her book captioned The Art of Matching Horoscopes concluedes that'a snap shot approach to the intricacies of horoscope matchingmany times leads to disastrous results. Kuta agreement a conventioanl approach otherwise known " porutham is a factor that sheds some light on adoptability hwere particulalrly marraiges happen though due to some references that are made for eligible couple for relationships. Accordingly Raman suggests " 4 factors most important before kuta are:1.lonegvity2.Metal and psychological health3.more than one marriage andlastly dosha if any " and cited a specific instance too in the book.Astrology as an indicative sciences always brings out issues mankind in general and can never be definitive issues.Also according to deasa,kala and Mana these issues gain relevance and importance.Accordingly kuta also differs on the basis of 6 issuess,others 8 and some other 10 issues.we have seen in one part of our country it is only rasi milan and in others some go to the extent of blood groups like mahindra.If any thing beyond 18 points it is alwas worth to be positive.Elsewhere there is also an addge(not ofcourse to be practised) " even you speak 1000 lies and help in marriage " and nothing is wrong in that approach.As marriage has basically a fiath as Kanydaan.So the number of points for agreements becomes very relative for looking forward for long lasting relationships. we have also seen with 32 points of agreements marraiges breaking and with 12 or 13 points marraiges sustaining.the fcator therefore is totality of astrology not just constrained to uta alone. vrkrishnan --- On Thu, 6/4/09, kamla singh <kamla_singh52 wrote: kamla singh <kamla_singh52 Re: gr8 jyotisacharya pls help.. anshika Cc: sureshbabuag Thursday, June 4, 2009, 5:40 PM namaste Suresh ji i couldnt conclude anything from your mail. I understand from your mail that Astrology is very complex.but How can any Acharyas can disregard this study by saying ' point based system is totally waste system'. and if there are two ways to do match making, then how come in one system 'gunas milan' for 34 gunas one says this is best match and other says planets position are such that you both couple will have divorce,separation etc in due coarse of time. how can the same principle of study says one thing in two extreme different ways. do you have answer to my quiry below. i m very upset hearing that i m not fortunate enough to live my married life happily. Different acharyas says different things ..whom i must go. i respect astrology but because of these misleading replies i m very disappointed . alike me this is how people start disregarding this study. regards Anshika --- On Thu, 6/4/09, sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag@ > Re: gr8 jyotisacharya pls help.. anshika Thursday, June 4, 2009, 1:15 PM Namasthe, I am replying to this only because you have conveyed some views which are totaly based on ignorence of misleading. Matching horoscopes is not simple task of matching points alone (if you understand them properly). Basis of points tallying is very complex and difficult to understand. That is why most of the astrologt text do not explain its relevance and the reason to such comments. Even experienced astrologers (20-30 years or above) falter in these matters. So you imagine a freshers position. I have explained the process of matching in other posts, which you can search from this forum itself. As for the points based matching, I shall give you a few examples which should impress on the importance of it. " Mahendra " is to find regarding children. It actually checks for blood type which is pointer to RH factor (not that it is very important no-a-days).. " Vasya " . Even in love marriage, you will come to know that real life is not all that sweet and fantacy. This gives a indication whether the couples shall hold together even in turbulant times or go seperate ways at the first sneeze. " Yoni " - Sexual organs of male & female are classified into several forms and there are perfect fits & mis-fits. you can imagine what will hapen if it mis fits and type of behavior also. " Gana " - refers to progeny - it is like this. The best race horse are reared carefully considering its pedegree. so are dogs. what about humans?. you can understand what I mean. These are only some of them. the rest you can find yourself. Just remember one thing. These matters are not given in the text because our acharyas did not had nothing else to do. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. , kamla singh <kamla_singh52@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks Harish ji > >  > > some astrologer said me > in answer to my question .. am I so unfortunate that I will have no happiness > in married life? … he answered “yes..you > will have marriage and child problems with whomsoever you marry and there will > no perfect match for your horsocope. It will be only manageable match.â€â€¦ > > also when argued about 34 gunas with my fiancie ..i got this reply below.. I > m so upset ..  > > “……It is based on > marriage signficators. > There are no points here.Out of 3 planets of marriage, 2 are weak, so there > will be stress in your marriage. Now what does 34 gun matching mean to you. > Does it show your marriage will be successful. It proves nothing and mean > nothing. > > Point based system is total > waste system and you are taking a risk.  > >  Everything looks good > before marriage beacuse now you are blind in love. Eyes open after Marriage. > >  Every chart has > malefic planets which create unfavorable problems. In your chart Venus and Mars > are malefic planets which are in conjunction which can land you in problems > regarding signfications of 6th and 12th, which are dusthana house lords. Their > role is to create disturbances. > >  You can ask any > learned astrologers what are the results of 6th Mars and 12th lord Venus in > conjunction in 10th house aspects 4th house of Saturn for Scorpio lagna. > > Venus is related to your > bed comforts or pleasures of bed and marriage signficator. Venus is related to > success of marriage. This conjunction doesnot promise healthy sleeping > atmosphere. There will be conflicts, arguements and obstructions to > getting married.  > > In his chart there is > malefic Moon, which is placed in house of marriage and aspects his lagna. He > also has problems to marriage and personal health > > Those principles based on > point system are actually wrong, sadly you have followed. You cannot make out > which way your life will go with points. > > My objective is to make you > aware of the difficult combination and save you……†> my birth details- 30/09/1983 at 11:15 AM AT THEOG(shimla) > > his birth details- 24/08/1981 at 02:50 PM at Bilaspur (chattisgarh) > kindly guide us through ur valuable knowledge about our marriage well being.. > regards > > > > --- On Thu, 6/4/09, Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405@ ...> wrote: > > Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405@ ...> > Re: gr8 jyotisacharya pls help.. anshika > > Thursday, June 4, 2009, 5:39 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kamala > >  > > Mangal dosha is always very dangerous, but many astrologers fail to understand. By seeing mangal in 8th house they put a fear in the natives mind that it can be fatal to ur spouse. Yes it is true but not in ur case. Why?? > >  > > Mangal is debilated in ur husbands chart, & when mangal is debilated it does not has the power to do the negative aspects. Like when a army jawan is fighting he is equipped with guns/riffles & thus is able to ditter the enemy away. When he has no riffle with him, by merely seeing him in an army dress do u think any one will get scared of him, no, because he is weaponless. > >  > > Similarly when mangal is debilated or neech in 8th house its negative delivery qualities are lost. Another thing, technically speaking, when mangal is neech its aspect is exalted, uunchh. When mangal has a exalted aspect will it harm anyone??. If u hate any person u will always harm him, but if u love him do u think u will hate him, u will love him more... This is what happens in case of exalted aspect. > >  > > 34 gunas are matching, it is very excellent, it is like marriages are made in haven, it also indicates that in ur past birth, both of u, were husband & wife & u hv taken rebirth for unfinished marital commitments. > >  > > In ur chart with ketu in ur lagna in yuti with guru gives u guru chandal yog with rahu in ur 7th house. Marital conflicts will be their but with guru in lagna will not bring marital discord. > >  > > In my opinion everything is alright but it is also very important before u get married, u should the shanti yagya for rahu/ketu/mangal as mangal will deprive u of children. U should also wear a yellow sapphire & emerald gemstone as u hv kendra adipathi dosha & jupiter is the karak for ur husband. > > > >  > > HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +91 9867214103 > > http://in.groups. ./ search?query= chandra-adityaas troremedies > > Send your mails to Chandra-AdityaAstro Remedies@ . co.in > > To Subscribe > > http://in.groups. / group/Chandra- AdityaAstroRemed ies > > For Professional Paid Consultancy send your mail/request for charges to > > haresh1405 /hareshgnathani@ or call +91 9867214103 > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > kamla_singh52 <kamla_singh52@ > > > > > Thursday, 4 June, 2009 1:18:14 AM > > gr8 jyotisacharya pls help.. anshika > > > > my birth details- 30/09/1983 at 11:15 AM AT THEOG(shimla) > > his birth details- 24/08/1981 at 02:50 PM at Bilaspur (chattisgarh) > > the prob is we r in relation since one year ..we have good chemistry so far with no obligation till now..though up n downs happened in life.. we r very much comfortable and want each other to get married...knowing kundli can creat problem in both of our family side so we promptly did kundli milan initially with software and got 34 gun match..we met astrologer as well he also suggested this as good match .. we were happy abt this progress and we took this relation deeply .. now when we want to get married the kundli was shown to two astrologer.. they are giving negative feedbck... > > i never had knowledge about kundli but since one month i have been reading so much post and visiting website..i can now understand horoscope matchmaking little bit.. i got to knw that my Rahu in 7th house can create probs in married life which can lead to divorce etc.. he has Mars and rahu in 8th house.. he is mangli and i m non mangli.. pandit ji said it is dangerous for life of either partner to get married we may suffer sever marriage prob and death of either.... these statments has depressed us so much. if this is true our parents will not allow to get marry.. > > however i found in one website.. > > " if Rahu or Ketu is in 7th or 8th house from Lagnam (Ascendant) or Chandran (Raasi known as moon sign), there is Rahu/Ketu dosham. For a match, there should be Rahu/Ketu dosham in both girl's and boy's horoscope or both horoscopes should be free from Rahu/Ketu dosham " > > > > also ..one article > > > > ....>.....>. ...>.... style= " vertical- align: top; " width= " 83% " > > > What situations in the horoscope of the spouse is treated as matching with the horoscope having " Mangal Dosh " ? > > If the horoscope of the spouse has any of the following star positions, it is complementary to the person having " Mangal Dosh " & hence the two can be considered to be match for each other. > > > > 1. If Saturn is in 1st, 4th, 7th, 8th or 12th house. > > 2. If Saturn is affecting 7th house with " 3rd or 10th Drushti " i.e. if Saturn is in 5th or 10th house.. > > 3. If Powerful Jupiter (In Cancer, Sagittarius, Pisces or Vargottam, Uchcha Navamansh or swanavamansh etc...), or Powerful Venus (in Pisces, Taurus or Libra or Vargottam, Uchcha Navamansh, Svanavamansh etc...) is placed in 1st house, > > 4. If 7th house is affected by Jupiter's 5th or 9th drushti i.e. Jupiter is placed in 3rd or 11th house. > > 5. If Rahu or Ketu is located in 1st or 7th house. > > > > .....>.....> > > > > considering two cases above it suggest we r perfect match.. but how come different pandit ji's have different perception for this.. > > ..clear our dout with remedies if this is so...??????? > > > > anshika > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel http://in.travel. / > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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