Jyotish remedies with your own relations.

June 10, 2009

Dear Rakeshmohan ji,

What a beautiful message! I may not agree with what you wrote fully, for

instance the way you connected Ishta/Kashta phala with Shadbala (even thought

they have a nice " clang association " as it has been called by some!), but

nit-picking aside, there is some good stuff in your posting for beginners to

hone in on, and dissect and so on, and hopefully digest.

Without going into the specific 'karakattwas' that you have given which some may

argue about and some of which disagree with what many accept, rightly or

wrongly, may I drop a hint that you may pick or drop!

Planets that are strong in bala indicate that the Search is over or almost over!

Planets that are weak are the ones that indicate what the search must focus on

and continue in this lifetime!

Of course, it is important to next figure out what the planets actually

represent! That is where the Black and White of Jyotish fades into the nebulous

grey! Karakattwa? Which one?? Rulership??? The hints given by Parashara towards

the end of his discourse with Maitreya????

, " rakeshmohan888 " <rakeshmohan888

wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

> Today when I was contemplating can astrology is as simple as

possible rather going through pujas, gems etc etc.. it occured to me that simple

changes in ones own relationships can do wonders.

>

> The following are the planets what they represent and what relations are key.

>

> 1. Sun - aspirations - Teacher

> 2. Moon - mind - mother

> 3. Mercury - intelligence - children

> 4. Venus - accumulate - spouse

> 5. Mars - courage - friends

> 6. Jupiter - hopes - father

> 7. Saturn - time - servant.

>

> Using shadbala analysis on birth chart one can find the ratio of ishta phala

and kashta phala; if the ishta phala is more than kashta pala there is nothing

to worry about because you have the strength to carry by yourself. If kashta

phala is more than ishta phala then the relations can make the difference as

they have the missing strength to give you.

>

> Say if sun is weak then your teacher can give you aspirations and goals. Often

the teacher's words bring new meaning to life.

>

> Say if moon is weak then one's mother can support one's emotions and which

will translate into positive sentiment.

>

> Say if mercury is weak then one's children can stimulate the mercury energy

with their questions and playfullness.

>

> Say if Venus is weak then one's wife can help to accumulate things in life

which one has missed or lost.

>

> Say if mars is weak then one's freinds can give courage to face the

difficulties in life.

>

> Say if Jupiter is weak then one's father can give optimism which will do

wonders for real as everything will start happening as they want.

>

> Say if saturn is weak then one's servant can support him to speed up the

things. Often saturn is looked as contraction and jupiter as growth but the

truth is that jupiter controls both expansion and contraction based the Ishta

phala strength is good or bad respectively. Saturn rules time and if one's

saturn is time there there prolonged delays for things to happen causing grief

and frustration. But if saturn is strong one can shine in no time.

>

> Adding to the discussion I want add my understanding behind the use of gems,

mantras, pujas, charity, homams,

>

> If one's sun is stronger than other planetary bodies one can do homams to

please gods and can help to strengthen other planetary deficient strengths.

>

> If one's moon is stronger than other planetary bodies then listening to good

music or bhajans and mantras can help to strengthen other planetary deficient

strengths.

>

> If one's mercury is stronger than other planetary bodies then reciting mantras

can help to strengthen other planetary deficient strengths.

>

> If one's mars is stronger than other planetary bodies then using gems can help

to strengthen other planetary deficient strengths. Mars is tamasic or

materialistic in nature and if one's mars is strong using gems will radiate the

energies of deficient planetary strengths.

>

> If one's saturn is stronger than other planetary bodies then doing charities

and spending time for the deficient planetary planets like say if sun is weak

then charity to government or political parties will help one's sun energy; if

jupiter is weak doing charities to eductational institutions will help one's

jupiter energy; if moon is weak doing charities to mental institutions will help

one's moon energy; if venus is weak doing charties to art galleries will help

one's venus energy;

>

> If one's jupiter is stronger than other planetary bodies then doing religious

activities will strengthen other planetary energies.

>

> If one's mars is stronger then giving protection to the relationships will

strengthen other planets.

>

> I know this article I published is controversial and strong resentment may be

shown but I feel this is the truth to my conscious. In my chart mercury is

exalted and I trust my conscious 100%

>

> Please share your thoughts.

>

> Thanks,

> Rakesh Mohan

>

June 10, 2009

Dear Mr Rakesh Mohan Ji,

Basically Astrology is simple or not should not be linked to the gems or poojas

and make some inferences for it to be simplified.

Astrology's is part of Nature which is about planetary system and is

zodial.Infact it is an application part wht has been told or conceived out of

vedas.it is all about cosmic influnece on the planet earth as it is the place

where most of the living beings live in an order with the aim of helping the

mainkind.

Cosmic influnces 'coz of geocentric nature and astronomical features tend to

give different results in different parts and different to people

mysteriously.Astrology tries to dleineate how things are different at differnt

times.at different zones and to different people.

Planetary strength is one aspect of jyotish based on nature of planet and it's

ability to influence the people.The strength of planet is not only based on the

distance they maintain from visionaries like sun and moon and also their

volocity/speed.

Consideration of naisergic aspects and understanding them as Good and bad along

with their karakatwas is based on very deep analysis of the four elements that

make the universe viz Fire.Air,water and earth..

The pattern of the earth roatation and the dependance on sun have also been

studied scintifically for understanding weather and climates.The changes in the

seasons thatbrought changes in living conditions of human beings is a

fsacinating story of mother earth.These cahnges were proved to have relations

with ever changing course of movements of plants.

These issues have become basis to ascertain strength of balsa.For the sake of

understanding of strength,six different factors naming it as shadvargas has been

termed.

where as ishtapahla and kashtaphala are two elements of giving good and bad

aspects based on their strength of plantes.Let me for the sake of repetition

say how various planets get related to sun ,the main important astral body.Their

relation to each in a Planetary system and the divison of labour between to

safeguard interests of human nature too requires a thorough understanding before

terming the whole thing as simple ,hard or complicated.It is authenticated and

analysed study made over thousands of years by great men and observers and

compiled as a vedanga delivered to us as jyotish.It is different we have faith

or no faith.But the whole universal system can be thoroughly understood from the

palnetary system.

It is different that you conceieved an idea as existing system of study of

planets as hard and tried to evolve and capsulate in your own understanding.But

it's relevance also becomes need to be justified to think of remedies.

Basically remedies have been evolved after understanding the cause and effect

situations in a scientific manner.it is not that wearing a gem helps or

performing a pooja wards of evils.Probably your jumping to remdies aspect of

jyotish by way of relations does not make any sense.

Infact you have to first find why need for remwdial arises ?whether problems

have solutions?if so how solutions are related as cause and effect also need to

be analysed.Here comes the role of epoch or birth time and the consequences that

arise out of planetary configurations that existed at that movement.This deep

studt has to be better comprehended before feeling the need for simplification

or otherwise.

vrkrishnan

--- On Tue, 6/9/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

Re: Jyotish remedies with your own relations.

Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 11:08 PM

Dear Rakeshmohan ji,

What a beautiful message! I may not agree with what you wrote fully, for

instance the way you connected Ishta/Kashta phala with Shadbala (even thought

they have a nice " clang association " as it has been called by some!), but

nit-picking aside, there is some good stuff in your posting for beginners to

hone in on, and dissect and so on, and hopefully digest.

Without going into the specific 'karakattwas' that you have given which some may

argue about and some of which disagree with what many accept, rightly or

wrongly, may I drop a hint that you may pick or drop!

Planets that are strong in bala indicate that the Search is over or almost over!

Planets that are weak are the ones that indicate what the search must focus on

and continue in this lifetime!

Of course, it is important to next figure out what the planets actually

represent! That is where the Black and White of Jyotish fades into the nebulous

grey! Karakattwa? Which one?? Rulership??? The hints given by Parashara towards

the end of his discourse with Maitreya????

, " rakeshmohan888 " <rakeshmohan888@

....> wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

> Today when I was contemplating can astrology is as simple as possible rather

going through pujas, gems etc etc.. it occured to me that simple changes in ones

own relationships can do wonders.

>

> The following are the planets what they represent and what relations are key.

>

> 1. Sun - aspirations - Teacher

> 2. Moon - mind - mother

> 3. Mercury - intelligence - children

> 4. Venus - accumulate - spouse

> 5. Mars - courage - friends

> 6. Jupiter - hopes - father

> 7. Saturn - time - servant.

>

> Using shadbala analysis on birth chart one can find the ratio of ishta phala

and kashta phala; if the ishta phala is more than kashta pala there is nothing

to worry about because you have the strength to carry by yourself. If kashta

phala is more than ishta phala then the relations can make the difference as

they have the missing strength to give you.

>

> Say if sun is weak then your teacher can give you aspirations and goals. Often

the teacher's words bring new meaning to life.

>

> Say if moon is weak then one's mother can support one's emotions and which

will translate into positive sentiment.

>

> Say if mercury is weak then one's children can stimulate the mercury energy

with their questions and playfullness.

>

> Say if Venus is weak then one's wife can help to accumulate things in life

which one has missed or lost.

>

> Say if mars is weak then one's freinds can give courage to face the

difficulties in life.

>

> Say if Jupiter is weak then one's father can give optimism which will do

wonders for real as everything will start happening as they want.

>

> Say if saturn is weak then one's servant can support him to speed up the

things. Often saturn is looked as contraction and jupiter as growth but the

truth is that jupiter controls both expansion and contraction based the Ishta

phala strength is good or bad respectively. Saturn rules time and if one's

saturn is time there there prolonged delays for things to happen causing grief

and frustration. But if saturn is strong one can shine in no time.

>

> Adding to the discussion I want add my understanding behind the use of gems,

mantras, pujas, charity, homams,

>

> If one's sun is stronger than other planetary bodies one can do homams to

please gods and can help to strengthen other planetary deficient strengths.

>

> If one's moon is stronger than other planetary bodies then listening to good

music or bhajans and mantras can help to strengthen other planetary deficient

strengths.

>

> If one's mercury is stronger than other planetary bodies then reciting mantras

can help to strengthen other planetary deficient strengths.

>

> If one's mars is stronger than other planetary bodies then using gems can help

to strengthen other planetary deficient strengths. Mars is tamasic or

materialistic in nature and if one's mars is strong using gems will radiate the

energies of deficient planetary strengths.

>

> If one's saturn is stronger than other planetary bodies then doing charities

and spending time for the deficient planetary planets like say if sun is weak

then charity to government or political parties will help one's sun energy; if

jupiter is weak doing charities to eductational institutions will help one's

jupiter energy; if moon is weak doing charities to mental institutions will help

one's moon energy; if venus is weak doing charties to art galleries will help

one's venus energy;

>

> If one's jupiter is stronger than other planetary bodies then doing religious

activities will strengthen other planetary energies.

>

> If one's mars is stronger then giving protection to the relationships will

strengthen other planets.

>

> I know this article I published is controversial and strong resentment may be

shown but I feel this is the truth to my conscious. In my chart mercury is

exalted and I trust my conscious 100%

>

> Please share your thoughts.

>

> Thanks,

> Rakesh Mohan

>

June 10, 2009

Dear Rohinirajan ji,

Thanks for your reply. I tried to use word truth just to

assert my belief strongly but I do agree it's very relative and may be subjected

to vagueness in meaning because it's not complete.

I was able to comprehend what I read on the internet about Ishta phala and

Kashta phala that it measures the benefic and malefic strength of planets in the

horoscope. But I learnt somethng new from you a new meaning of Ishta phala and

kashta phala.

" > Planets that are strong in bala indicate that the Search is over or almost

over!

>

> Planets that are weak are the ones that indicate what the search must focus on

and continue in this lifetime! "

The way I defined the existence of karakattwas as...

Planet is just a material body in the sky and due to it's rotation around sun

releases energy. The way the energy transcends in the solar system has a

specific wave length and frequency. The things that resonate in that wave length

and frequency harmoniously become karakattwas of that planet.

When I say saturn represents time then one may argue that if saturn wasn't there

in the solar system then we wouldn't have time at all. But the point is that

saturn represents time and not time by itself.

The astrology can be explained by an example - it's the study of the blue print

of bomb and reveals what triggers to explode which are laid down in the

astrology principles. But how it will explode is left to the interpretation of

mind which will fluctuate due to rahu and ketu axis (hidden internal code only

god knows!).

Regards,

Rakesh

, " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan

wrote:

>

> Dear Rakeshmohan ji,

>

> What a beautiful message! I may not agree with what you wrote fully, for

instance the way you connected Ishta/Kashta phala with Shadbala (even thought

they have a nice " clang association " as it has been called by some!), but

nit-picking aside, there is some good stuff in your posting for beginners to

hone in on, and dissect and so on, and hopefully digest.

>

> Without going into the specific 'karakattwas' that you have given which some

may argue about and some of which disagree with what many accept, rightly or

wrongly, may I drop a hint that you may pick or drop!

>

> Planets that are strong in bala indicate that the Search is over or almost

over!

>

> Planets that are weak are the ones that indicate what the search must focus on

and continue in this lifetime!

>

> Of course, it is important to next figure out what the planets actually

represent! That is where the Black and White of Jyotish fades into the nebulous

grey! Karakattwa? Which one?? Rulership??? The hints given by Parashara towards

the end of his discourse with Maitreya????

>

> , " rakeshmohan888 " <rakeshmohan888@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> > Today when I was contemplating can astrology is as simple as

possible rather going through pujas, gems etc etc.. it occured to me that simple

changes in ones own relationships can do wonders.

> >

> > The following are the planets what they represent and what relations are

key.

> >

> > 1. Sun - aspirations - Teacher

> > 2. Moon - mind - mother

> > 3. Mercury - intelligence - children

> > 4. Venus - accumulate - spouse

> > 5. Mars - courage - friends

> > 6. Jupiter - hopes - father

> > 7. Saturn - time - servant.

> >

> > Using shadbala analysis on birth chart one can find the ratio of ishta phala

and kashta phala; if the ishta phala is more than kashta pala there is nothing

to worry about because you have the strength to carry by yourself. If kashta

phala is more than ishta phala then the relations can make the difference as

they have the missing strength to give you.

> >

> > Say if sun is weak then your teacher can give you aspirations and goals.

Often the teacher's words bring new meaning to life.

> >

> > Say if moon is weak then one's mother can support one's emotions and which

will translate into positive sentiment.

> >

> > Say if mercury is weak then one's children can stimulate the mercury energy

with their questions and playfullness.

> >

> > Say if Venus is weak then one's wife can help to accumulate things in life

which one has missed or lost.

> >

> > Say if mars is weak then one's freinds can give courage to face the

difficulties in life.

> >

> > Say if Jupiter is weak then one's father can give optimism which will do

wonders for real as everything will start happening as they want.

> >

> > Say if saturn is weak then one's servant can support him to speed up the

things. Often saturn is looked as contraction and jupiter as growth but the

truth is that jupiter controls both expansion and contraction based the Ishta

phala strength is good or bad respectively. Saturn rules time and if one's

saturn is time there there prolonged delays for things to happen causing grief

and frustration. But if saturn is strong one can shine in no time.

> >

> > Adding to the discussion I want add my understanding behind the use of gems,

mantras, pujas, charity, homams,

> >

> > If one's sun is stronger than other planetary bodies one can do homams to

please gods and can help to strengthen other planetary deficient strengths.

> >

> > If one's moon is stronger than other planetary bodies then listening to good

music or bhajans and mantras can help to strengthen other planetary deficient

strengths.

> >

> > If one's mercury is stronger than other planetary bodies then reciting

mantras can help to strengthen other planetary deficient strengths.

> >

> > If one's mars is stronger than other planetary bodies then using gems can

help to strengthen other planetary deficient strengths. Mars is tamasic or

materialistic in nature and if one's mars is strong using gems will radiate the

energies of deficient planetary strengths.

> >

> > If one's saturn is stronger than other planetary bodies then doing charities

and spending time for the deficient planetary planets like say if sun is weak

then charity to government or political parties will help one's sun energy; if

jupiter is weak doing charities to eductational institutions will help one's

jupiter energy; if moon is weak doing charities to mental institutions will help

one's moon energy; if venus is weak doing charties to art galleries will help

one's venus energy;

> >

> > If one's jupiter is stronger than other planetary bodies then doing

religious activities will strengthen other planetary energies.

> >

> > If one's mars is stronger then giving protection to the relationships will

strengthen other planets.

> >

> > I know this article I published is controversial and strong resentment may

be shown but I feel this is the truth to my conscious. In my chart mercury is

exalted and I trust my conscious 100%

> >

> > Please share your thoughts.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Rakesh Mohan

> >

>

June 11, 2009

Krishnan Dada,

Very nicely stated. True wisdom comes from finding a very " sweet " place within

where there is no enmity, no animosity, no immature sparring as we have been

increasingly seeing on the Jyotish Stage...

And I get the feeling that you have touched upon that 'sweet' spot within where

true peace exists. Like most of us mortals who truly live in this world and are

not merely 'visiting', you perhaps do not experience that all the time, but each

moment spent being in touch with that realm is apparent. You never attack back,

and do not feel attacked and I have never seen you get into Ego battles or

fights and you have to the best of my recollection never projected the blame on

to others. This is unique and I have always admired you for that and hence I

consistently address you as Dada or elder brother (Dada has a bad connotation in

some places in India where Dada is a goonda and now I hear that the beautiful

sambodhan 'bhai' is becoming blemished too thanks to Bollywood movies like

Munnabhai!

A doctor bandhu ('bhai' nahin kahunga varnaa phir MAAR padegee mujhey!) once

said, " You know, remedies are easy but diagnosis is difficult! Once properly

diagnosed, one can look up on Internet and treat the patient, but diagnosis

cannot be learned on Internet! " .

Medicine and Jyotish are so similar in some respects!

Remedies have generally been prescribed rather lightly and often the same

individual gets several remedies at times to observer through out the week if

the person really follows those! I see a silver lining in what to some may seem

like a dark cloud!

Imagine: If one person is fasting on 4 out of 7 days due to different

recommendations, doing volunteer service on 3 days, visiting temples at least

three times during the week (different Gods recommended by different jyotishis),

does charity on the remaining days, vows to be kind to his wife and children on

4/7 days (again different jyotishis) and gives up two or three favourite foods

on different days (yes yes you know the routine by now: different jyotishis...),

and does all that sincerely and selflessly with no RETURN expected -- will KARMA

ever touch such a person? He should register at some ashram for being ordained a

SAINT, I think!

Let us leave gemstones and vama vidyaas out of this scenario ;-)

Rohiniranjan

, vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Mr Rakesh Mohan Ji,

> Basically Astrology is simple or not should not be linked to the gems or

poojas and make some inferences for it to be simplified.

> Astrology's is part of Nature which is about planetary system and is

zodial.Infact it is an application part wht has been told or conceived out of

vedas.it is all about cosmic influnece on the planet earth as it is the place

where most of the living beings live in an order with the aim of helping the

mainkind.

> Cosmic influnces 'coz of geocentric nature and astronomical features tend to

give different results in different parts and different to people

mysteriously.Astrology tries to dleineate how things are different at differnt

times.at different zones and to different people.

> Planetary strength is one aspect of jyotish based on nature of planet and it's

ability to influence the people.The strength of planet is not only based on the

distance they maintain from visionaries like sun and moon and also their

volocity/speed.

> Consideration of naisergic aspects and understanding them as Good and bad

along with their karakatwas is based on very deep analysis of the four elements

that make the universe viz Fire.Air,water and earth..

> The pattern of the earth roatation and the dependance on sun have also been

studied scintifically for understanding weather and climates.The changes in the

seasons thatbrought changes in living conditions of human beings is a

fsacinating story of mother earth.These cahnges were proved to have relations

with ever changing course of movements of plants.

> These issues have become basis to ascertain strength of balsa.For the sake of

understanding of strength,six different factors naming it as shadvargas has been

termed.

> where as ishtapahla and kashtaphala are two elements of giving good and bad