Guest guest Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Dear friends, Happy to see the rising level of awareness amongest the astrologers and members on the subject. Unfortunately due to time constraint I was unable to continue participation on the subject matter. The good astrologers in the group should come forward on case to case basis on merit only; where the member need serious attention and there is special need for administration of wearing of gemstones as the ultimate remedial measure. As Yantra, Tantra and Gemstones should always be given the last preference in remedial options. Foremost being- public/ social service, charitable work, problem specific behavioural or personality improvement, taking correct decisions, choosing right line of actions out of many possible alternatives, prayers, mantra, yogic asana, pranayama and meditations etc. In my humble experience, I have seen that in 99.99% of cases even the best selected gemstones have some sort of side effects. The astrlogers must analyse the horoscope correctly and advise what need to be done to take care of the side effects of the gemstones in each case. For example good red coral- may reduce one's sleep, blue saphire may decrease the level of body heat etc. Cat's eye may give the prospensity to say things indirectly leading to confusion/ loss of reputation- all depending upon the rasi/navamsa/starlord of the planet for which the gemstone is being worn. No gemstone should be worn without strengthening the lagna lord/ navamsa lagna lord/starlord of lagna- at least one or two out of these three. The best of selected gemstones- cannot give social standing and repuation if Sun is weak and similary financial stability can not be maintained by using even the best gemstones if Moon has no strength. In horoscope- one planet act for the other. Sometimes they exchange duties and responsibilities. So when a strong bad planet or a strong or weak good planet may be serving for a strong good planet. This is the ideal situation for use of gemstone. In all the other cases- detailed examination and precaution is required for suggesting gemstones. Every astrologer suggesting gemstone may please provide their clearcut explanations for the gemstones suggested- indicating the possible side effects- and measures to contain/ minimise the side effects. With regards and best wishes, Mrutyunjay Tripathy (Consultancy out of group is not free) 09811971190 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Respected Tripathy Ji, Thanks for providing us such a detailed & impressive information. Sir, I request you to kindly suggest me the gemstone. Presently I'm wearing BLUE SAFFIRE, EMARALD & ZIRCON all three as Shani, Budh & Shukra are yog karaks in my chart. Kindly suggest if I'm wearing right stones. My D.O.B. is 28/june/1968 T.O.B. is 14:50 P.O.B. is Delhi Thanks & regards, sheel --- On Wed, 17/6/09, Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote: Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_mrutyunjay gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. Wednesday, 17 June, 2009, 9:53 AM Dear friends, Happy to see the rising level of awareness amongest the astrologers and members on the subject. Unfortunately due to time constraint I was unable to continue participation on the subject matter. The good astrologers in the group should come forward on case to case basis on merit only; where the member need serious attention and there is special need for administration of wearing of gemstones as the ultimate remedial measure. As Yantra, Tantra and Gemstones should always be given the last preference in remedial options. Foremost being- public/ social service, charitable work, problem specific behavioural or personality improvement, taking correct decisions, choosing right line of actions out of many possible alternatives, prayers, mantra, yogic asana, pranayama and meditations etc. In my humble experience, I have seen that in 99.99% of cases even the best selected gemstones have some sort of side effects. The astrlogers must analyse the horoscope correctly and advise what need to be done to take care of the side effects of the gemstones in each case. For example good red coral- may reduce one's sleep, blue saphire may decrease the level of body heat etc. Cat's eye may give the prospensity to say things indirectly leading to confusion/ loss of reputation- all depending upon the rasi/navamsa/ starlord of the planet for which the gemstone is being worn. No gemstone should be worn without strengthening the lagna lord/ navamsa lagna lord/starlord of lagna- at least one or two out of these three. The best of selected gemstones- cannot give social standing and repuation if Sun is weak and similary financial stability can not be maintained by using even the best gemstones if Moon has no strength. In horoscope- one planet act for the other. Sometimes they exchange duties and responsibilities. So when a strong bad planet or a strong or weak good planet may be serving for a strong good planet. This is the ideal situation for use of gemstone. In all the other cases- detailed examination and precaution is required for suggesting gemstones. Every astrologer suggesting gemstone may please provide their clearcut explanations for the gemstones suggested- indicating the possible side effects- and measures to contain/ minimise the side effects. With regards and best wishes, Mrutyunjay Tripathy (Consultancy out of group is not free) 09811971190 ICC World Twenty20 England & #39;09 exclusively on ! CRICKET http://cricket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 , " Mrutyunjay Tripathy " <astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote: > > Dear friends, > > Happy to see the rising level of awareness amongest the astrologers and members on the subject. > > Unfortunately due to time constraint I was unable to continue participation on the subject matter. > > The good astrologers in the group should come forward on case to case basis on merit only; > > where the member need serious attention and > > there is special need for administration of > > wearing of gemstones as the ultimate remedial measure. > > As Yantra, Tantra and Gemstones should always be given the last preference in remedial options. > > Foremost being- > > public/ social service, charitable work, problem specific behavioural or personality improvement, taking correct decisions, choosing right line of actions out of many possible alternatives, > > prayers, mantra, yogic asana, pranayama and meditations etc. > > > In my humble experience, I have seen that in 99.99% of cases even the best selected gemstones have some sort of side effects. > > The astrlogers must analyse the horoscope correctly and advise what need to be done to take care of the side effects of the gemstones in each case. > > For example good red coral- may reduce one's sleep, blue saphire may decrease the level of body heat etc. Cat's eye may give the prospensity to say things indirectly leading to confusion/ loss of reputation- all depending upon the rasi/navamsa/starlord of the planet for which the gemstone is being worn. > > > No gemstone should be worn without strengthening the lagna lord/ navamsa lagna lord/starlord of lagna- at least one or two out of these three. > > The best of selected gemstones- cannot give social standing and repuation if Sun is weak > > and similary financial stability can not be maintained by using even the best gemstones if > > Moon has no strength. > > > In horoscope- one planet act for the other. Sometimes they exchange duties and responsibilities. > > So when a strong bad planet or a strong or weak good planet may be serving for a strong good planet. > > > This is the ideal situation for use of gemstone. > > In all the other cases- > > detailed examination and precaution is required > > for suggesting gemstones. > > > Every astrologer suggesting gemstone may please provide their clearcut explanations for the gemstones suggested- indicating the > possible side effects- and measures to contain/ minimise the side effects. > > > > With regards and best wishes, > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > (Consultancy out of group is not free) > Dear all Remedial measures through more than 25 methods of Occult Sciences of analysing lucky gemstone is possible. My R & D oriented work, against commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology, Gopal Raju Scientist and Occultist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Message below the quoted posting... , " Gopal Raju " <gopalraju12 wrote: >SNIP< .... > Dear all > > Remedial measures through more than 25 methods of Occult Sciences of analysing lucky gemstone is possible. My R & D oriented work, against commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology, > > > > Gopal Raju > > Scientist and Occultist > Gopal Raju ji! Thank God that you arrived on the scene! Now we all can relax and learn from your sharings! I hope I am not being presumptive but had they taken your advice, history would have been different, as we know it today: Diana would have not died, the way she did Rajiv Gandhi would not have died the way he did, nor his mother or brother Probably Saddam should have begged you for advice and he would not have died biting a MARS bar in a hole in the earth and had he received your gemstone advice, George Bush (JR.) would have been known today as the WISE one instead of just keeping the seat warm for one who may yet turn out to be so! What is your recommendation for Barack OBama? Which gemstone or gemstones should he wear and where should he write to seek your blessings? Rohiniranjan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Dear Tripathi-jee, Not level but simply Jwaar-bhataa as oceanographers would observe! I once expressed my observations about a dear friend nick-named Shyamu, soon after the great gemologist and tantrik Shri Harish Johari died -- Two obituaries rolled into one article in a sense! Gemstones in the astrological reality that we see around us are like stocks! They can make you rich or poor -- depending on how keen your nose is, how much you have really researched and how even-keeled you were when you prescribed, accepted and chose to put the advice into practice! I HOPE that sounds like a gamble? Unless you get a written warranty? Fasting, service and worship of many kinds do not require all of that research, work and uncertainty -- for all of those burdens are on one's back only as long as one desires to rule THEir universe and reality! Including telling the astrologer advisors what the NATIVITY wants to happen... RR , " Mrutyunjay Tripathy " <astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote: > > Dear friends, > > Happy to see the rising level of awareness amongest the astrologers and members on the subject. > > Unfortunately due to time constraint I was unable to continue participation on the subject matter. > > The good astrologers in the group should come forward on case to case basis on merit only; > > where the member need serious attention and > > there is special need for administration of > > wearing of gemstones as the ultimate remedial measure. > > As Yantra, Tantra and Gemstones should always be given the last preference in remedial options. > > Foremost being- > > public/ social service, charitable work, problem specific behavioural or personality improvement, taking correct decisions, choosing right line of actions out of many possible alternatives, > > prayers, mantra, yogic asana, pranayama and meditations etc. > > > In my humble experience, I have seen that in 99.99% of cases even the best selected gemstones have some sort of side effects. > > The astrlogers must analyse the horoscope correctly and advise what need to be done to take care of the side effects of the gemstones in each case. > > For example good red coral- may reduce one's sleep, blue saphire may decrease the level of body heat etc. Cat's eye may give the prospensity to say things indirectly leading to confusion/ loss of reputation- all depending upon the rasi/navamsa/starlord of the planet for which the gemstone is being worn. > > > No gemstone should be worn without strengthening the lagna lord/ navamsa lagna lord/starlord of lagna- at least one or two out of these three. > > The best of selected gemstones- cannot give social standing and repuation if Sun is weak > > and similary financial stability can not be maintained by using even the best gemstones if > > Moon has no strength. > > > In horoscope- one planet act for the other. Sometimes they exchange duties and responsibilities. > > So when a strong bad planet or a strong or weak good planet may be serving for a strong good planet. > > > This is the ideal situation for use of gemstone. > > In all the other cases- > > detailed examination and precaution is required > > for suggesting gemstones. > > > Every astrologer suggesting gemstone may please provide their clearcut explanations for the gemstones suggested- indicating the > possible side effects- and measures to contain/ minimise the side effects. > > > > With regards and best wishes, > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > (Consultancy out of group is not free) > 09811971190 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2009 Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 No Dear sir, your concepts are absolutely childish regarding color therapy. You are not aware of harmony theory of the celestril bodies. Karma and bhog theory is prime and destiny can not be changed, true, but kriyaman karma also work like a catalyst and may effect up to some extent. This depend on the expertise of the person who is analysing that catalyst. Persons like TV/Banner Guru etc. who are claiming 100 % results may be think of what they are. I am not commercially exploiting sir. I am a Scientist and not superstitious as well , I claim what I experiment. I analyse gemstone considering more than 25 methos of occult science and claim yes 5, 10,20 or even more percent they are effectve. Kindly read Gopal Raju and than conclude or make any concept for what I am stressing. Sorry sir, if my words heart you. but I have to say this because I have dedicated my entire life for the occult. Regards, Gopal Raju --- On Thu, 18/6/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. Thursday, 18 June, 2009, 7:16 AM Message below the quoted posting... , " Gopal Raju " <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > Dear all > > Remedial measures through more than 25 methods of Occult Sciences of analysing lucky gemstone is possible. My R & D oriented work, against commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology, > > > > Gopal Raju > > Scientist and Occultist > Gopal Raju ji! Thank God that you arrived on the scene! Now we all can relax and learn from your sharings! I hope I am not being presumptive but had they taken your advice, history would have been different, as we know it today: Diana would have not died, the way she did Rajiv Gandhi would not have died the way he did, nor his mother or brother Probably Saddam should have begged you for advice and he would not have died biting a MARS bar in a hole in the earth and had he received your gemstone advice, George Bush (JR.) would have been known today as the WISE one instead of just keeping the seat warm for one who may yet turn out to be so! What is your recommendation for Barack OBama? Which gemstone or gemstones should he wear and where should he write to seek your blessings? Rohiniranjan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Dear friend, Please come up with satisfactory scientific reasons/ explanations through which type of scientific experiments you had come to these conclusions about gem therapy/ color therapy ? What is the hesitation in coming up with your 'detailed process of experiementation' 'tools of experimentation' and 'scientific parameters' used in your experiment ? Regards, Mrutyunjay Tripathy, , gopal raju <gopalraju12 wrote: > > No Dear sir, your concepts are absolutely childish regarding color therapy. You are not aware of harmony theory of the celestril bodies. Karma and bhog theory is prime and destiny can not be changed, true, but kriyaman karma also work like a catalyst and may effect up to some extent. This depend on the expertise of the person who is analysing that catalyst. Persons like TV/Banner Guru etc. who are claiming 100 % results may be think of what they are. > I am not commercially exploiting sir. I am a Scientist and not superstitious as well , I claim what I experiment. I analyse gemstone considering more than 25 methos of occult science and claim yes 5, 10,20 or even more percent they are effectve. > Kindly read Gopal Raju and than conclude or make any concept for what I am stressing. > Sorry sir, if my words heart you. but I have to say this because I have dedicated my entire life for the occult. > Regards, > Gopal Raju > > --- On Thu, 18/6/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > Thursday, 18 June, 2009, 7:16 AM > > > Message below the quoted posting... > > , " Gopal Raju " <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > Dear all > > > > Remedial measures through more than 25 methods of Occult Sciences of analysing lucky gemstone is possible. My R & D oriented work, against commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology, > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > Gopal Raju ji! > > Thank God that you arrived on the scene! Now we all can relax and learn from your sharings! > > I hope I am not being presumptive but had they taken your advice, history would have been different, as we know it today: > > Diana would have not died, the way she did > > Rajiv Gandhi would not have died the way he did, nor his mother or brother > > Probably Saddam should have begged you for advice and he would not have died biting a MARS bar in a hole in the earth and had he received your gemstone advice, George Bush (JR.) would have been known today as the WISE one instead of just keeping the seat warm for one who may yet turn out to be so! > > What is your recommendation for Barack OBama? Which gemstone or gemstones should he wear and where should he write to seek your blessings? > > Rohiniranjan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Dear sir read my book on gemology/Fortunate Name. Your concepts regarding traditional astrology would be changed. I am getting more than 60 % favourablele results through my remedial measures. This also includes meditation and specifically harmonious name. Yes now I have started exploitingng my expertise. But since this ercisese is time consuming can not be generalised. One can visualised change in Orar pa tern. Fortunately this is not known to TV/Banner gurus or commercial persons One can not even imagine that there could be so many methods for analysing specific grade of lucky gemstones. Sir my intension is not to heart any body. I am stating what I have experienced and which may be looked also. Regards, Gopal Raju Scientist n Occutist --- On Thu, 16/7/09, Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote: Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_mrutyunjay Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. Thursday, 16 July, 2009, 4:11 PM Dear friend, Please come up with satisfactory scientific reasons/ explanations through which type of scientific experiments you had come to these conclusions about gem therapy/ color therapy ? What is the hesitation in coming up with your 'detailed process of experiementation' 'tools of experimentation' and 'scientific parameters' used in your experiment ? Regards, Mrutyunjay Tripathy, , gopal raju <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > No Dear sir, your concepts are absolutely childish regarding color therapy. You are not aware of harmony theory of the celestril bodies. Karma and bhog theory is prime and destiny can not be changed, true, but kriyaman karma also work like a catalyst and may effect up to some extent. This depend on the expertise of the person who is analysing that catalyst. Persons like TV/Banner Guru etc. who are claiming 100 % results may be think of what they are. > I am not commercially exploiting sir. I am a Scientist and not superstitious as well , I claim what I experiment. I analyse gemstone considering more than 25 methos of occult science and claim yes 5, 10,20 or even more percent they are effectve. > Kindly read Gopal Raju and than conclude or make any concept for what I am stressing. > Sorry sir, if my words heart you. but I have to say this because I have dedicated my entire life for the occult. > Regards, > Gopal Raju > > --- On Thu, 18/6/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > Thursday, 18 June, 2009, 7:16 AM > > > Message below the quoted posting... > > , " Gopal Raju " <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > Dear all > > > > Remedial measures through more than 25 methods of Occult Sciences of analysing lucky gemstone is possible. My R & D oriented work, against commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology, > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > Gopal Raju ji! > > Thank God that you arrived on the scene! Now we all can relax and learn from your sharings! > > I hope I am not being presumptive but had they taken your advice, history would have been different, as we know it today: > > Diana would have not died, the way she did > > Rajiv Gandhi would not have died the way he did, nor his mother or brother > > Probably Saddam should have begged you for advice and he would not have died biting a MARS bar in a hole in the earth and had he received your gemstone advice, George Bush (JR.) would have been known today as the WISE one instead of just keeping the seat warm for one who may yet turn out to be so! > > What is your recommendation for Barack OBama? Which gemstone or gemstones should he wear and where should he write to seek your blessings? > > Rohiniranjan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Dear sir, Kindly spare time and read gemstones - A scientific approach. I request that this type of R & D oriented works may be widley circulated to develop interest amongst those who have been commercially exploited Plz login : http://astrotantra4u.com/gem.pdf Regards, Gopal Raju Scientist n Occultist 09760111555 --- On Thu, 16/7/09, Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote: Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_mrutyunjay Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. Thursday, 16 July, 2009, 4:11 PM Dear friend, Please come up with satisfactory scientific reasons/ explanations through which type of scientific experiments you had come to these conclusions about gem therapy/ color therapy ? What is the hesitation in coming up with your 'detailed process of experiementation' 'tools of experimentation' and 'scientific parameters' used in your experiment ? Regards, Mrutyunjay Tripathy, , gopal raju <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > No Dear sir, your concepts are absolutely childish regarding color therapy. You are not aware of harmony theory of the celestril bodies. Karma and bhog theory is prime and destiny can not be changed, true, but kriyaman karma also work like a catalyst and may effect up to some extent. This depend on the expertise of the person who is analysing that catalyst. Persons like TV/Banner Guru etc. who are claiming 100 % results may be think of what they are. > I am not commercially exploiting sir. I am a Scientist and not superstitious as well , I claim what I experiment. I analyse gemstone considering more than 25 methos of occult science and claim yes 5, 10,20 or even more percent they are effectve. > Kindly read Gopal Raju and than conclude or make any concept for what I am stressing. > Sorry sir, if my words heart you. but I have to say this because I have dedicated my entire life for the occult. > Regards, > Gopal Raju > > --- On Thu, 18/6/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > Thursday, 18 June, 2009, 7:16 AM > > > Message below the quoted posting... > > , " Gopal Raju " <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > Dear all > > > > Remedial measures through more than 25 methods of Occult Sciences of analysing lucky gemstone is possible. My R & D oriented work, against commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology, > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > Gopal Raju ji! > > Thank God that you arrived on the scene! Now we all can relax and learn from your sharings! > > I hope I am not being presumptive but had they taken your advice, history would have been different, as we know it today: > > Diana would have not died, the way she did > > Rajiv Gandhi would not have died the way he did, nor his mother or brother > > Probably Saddam should have begged you for advice and he would not have died biting a MARS bar in a hole in the earth and had he received your gemstone advice, George Bush (JR.) would have been known today as the WISE one instead of just keeping the seat warm for one who may yet turn out to be so! > > What is your recommendation for Barack OBama? Which gemstone or gemstones should he wear and where should he write to seek your blessings? > > Rohiniranjan > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 I like the adjective, Childish! From the mouth of babes shall man hear the truth and it shall irritate and offend him! Often readily and force him to question and thus grow ;-) So what advice must be given to the President of US, as requested below? RR , gopal raju <gopalraju12 wrote: > > No Dear sir, your concepts are absolutely childish regarding color therapy. You are not aware of harmony theory of the celestril bodies. Karma and bhog theory is prime and destiny can not be changed, true, but kriyaman karma also work like a catalyst and may effect up to some extent. This depend on the expertise of the person who is analysing that catalyst. Persons like TV/Banner Guru etc. who are claiming 100 % results may be think of what they are. > I am not commercially exploiting sir. I am a Scientist and not superstitious as well , I claim what I experiment. I analyse gemstone considering more than 25 methos of occult science and claim yes 5, 10,20 or even more percent they are effectve. > Kindly read Gopal Raju and than conclude or make any concept for what I am stressing. > Sorry sir, if my words heart you. but I have to say this because I have dedicated my entire life for the occult. > Regards, > Gopal Raju > > --- On Thu, 18/6/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > Thursday, 18 June, 2009, 7:16 AM > > > Message below the quoted posting... > > , " Gopal Raju " <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > Dear all > > > > Remedial measures through more than 25 methods of Occult Sciences of analysing lucky gemstone is possible. My R & D oriented work, against commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology, > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > Gopal Raju ji! > > Thank God that you arrived on the scene! Now we all can relax and learn from your sharings! > > I hope I am not being presumptive but had they taken your advice, history would have been different, as we know it today: > > Diana would have not died, the way she did > > Rajiv Gandhi would not have died the way he did, nor his mother or brother > > Probably Saddam should have begged you for advice and he would not have died biting a MARS bar in a hole in the earth and had he received your gemstone advice, George Bush (JR.) would have been known today as the WISE one instead of just keeping the seat warm for one who may yet turn out to be so! > > What is your recommendation for Barack OBama? Which gemstone or gemstones should he wear and where should he write to seek your blessings? > > Rohiniranjan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Gopal Raju ji, Please do not use words like " childish " for anyone. Rohini Ranjan Ji may sometimes appear to be joking, but he is a serious and senior astrologer. Your initial message would have invited more severe reaction from me than actually came from RR ji, but your later clarification removed some of the misgivings generated by vague aspersions on all astrologers made in your initial message ( " commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology " ). I never charged any fees for my astrological services and softwares. Why you suppose all astrologers are creating panic for exploiting commercially ? Are not many scientists cheating the nation by drawing huge sums from national excequer in the name of research producing fake results, which is a great crime in a poor nation where kids go to bed crying for food? Many scientists plagiarise researches of others. My works have been verified by NASA and IISc (can we know your credentials as a scientist, if it does not offend you?), and I know many scientists should be behind bars for what they are actually doing. Some of them are even involved in smuggling fissile material out of the country and are supplying sensitive weapons to naxalites and terrorists. But it does not mean all scientists are bad. Similarly, all astrologers are not bad. I hope you will be more gentle and clear in futue. We will certainly like to learn about your research, but not in a combative manner. -Vinay Jha ========================= === ________________________________ Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Friday, July 17, 2009 5:45:45 AM Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. I like the adjective, Childish! From the mouth of babes shall man hear the truth and it shall irritate and offend him! Often readily and force him to question and thus grow ;-) So what advice must be given to the President of US, as requested below? RR , gopal raju <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > No Dear sir, your concepts are absolutely childish regarding color therapy. You are not aware of harmony theory of the celestril bodies. Karma and bhog theory is prime and destiny can not be changed, true, but kriyaman karma also work like a catalyst and may effect up to some extent. This depend on the expertise of the person who is analysing that catalyst. Persons like TV/Banner Guru etc. who are claiming 100 % results may be think of what they are. > I am not commercially exploiting sir. I am a Scientist and not superstitious as well , I claim what I experiment. I analyse gemstone considering more than 25 methos of occult science and claim yes 5, 10,20 or even more percent they are effectve. > Kindly read Gopal Raju and than conclude or make any concept for what I am stressing. > Sorry sir, if my words heart you. but I have to say this because I have dedicated my entire life for the occult. > Regards, > Gopal Raju > > --- On Thu, 18/6/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > Thursday, 18 June, 2009, 7:16 AM > > > Message below the quoted posting... > > , " Gopal Raju " <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > Dear all > > > > Remedial measures through more than 25 methods of Occult Sciences of analysing lucky gemstone is possible. My R & D oriented work, against commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology, > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > Gopal Raju ji! > > Thank God that you arrived on the scene! Now we all can relax and learn from your sharings! > > I hope I am not being presumptive but had they taken your advice, history would have been different, as we know it today: > > Diana would have not died, the way she did > > Rajiv Gandhi would not have died the way he did, nor his mother or brother > > Probably Saddam should have begged you for advice and he would not have died biting a MARS bar in a hole in the earth and had he received your gemstone advice, George Bush (JR.) would have been known today as the WISE one instead of just keeping the seat warm for one who may yet turn out to be so! > > What is your recommendation for Barack OBama? Which gemstone or gemstones should he wear and where should he write to seek your blessings? > > Rohiniranjan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Gopal raju, well we aware the the greatnes and depth of the Vedic heritage and more visible in Jyotishya and this is spread across the country indifferent levels-more dependeing on how industrilised it is. more prosperous ppl tend to ignore tradition values, subjects unless there is no other go. and merely live like machines to earn, eat, sleep, no self devlopment, skills or pasts times r there. now coming to ur views there r even spelling mistakes so if ur language flow is not clear u can have opp results look at this line/wors carefully would be changed must be WILL CHANGE exploitingng = can mean both the benefits as well as making money out of it no difference to ur line TV/Banner gurus or commercial persons not to heart any body must be Hurt anybody and wwhile making generalised statements be careful on content u will never know if u r stepping on the raw nerve of anyone even unintentionally we all know ppl buy time on TV or magazine articles, well now internet is also being flooded with some of them we can't help that but we cant say all r like it in evry profession u will find such odd black sheep NOW ur claim on scientific is to be read as more researched than others not a fool proof method and 60% no scientist will approve of so be careful again on choice of words and most ppl today do spend time on working with classical and modern works also coollect data and do a statistical study which is also a scientific model but not always can they be true and same result as Karmic balances of the individuals differ and they with almighty's grace will shape the result from an astrologer-astologer is just a Nimitha a instruement or medium not the vehicle or script write of anyones fate a good interpreter max of what little we r allowed to predict based on the persons karma at the given moment. if he has some good karma may be a long term guidence can also work well for him Prashant ________________________________ gopal raju <gopalraju12 Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:52:04 PM Re: Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. Dear sir read my book on gemology/Fortunate Name. Your concepts regarding traditional astrology would be changed. I am getting more than 60 % favourablele results through my remedial measures. This also includes meditation and specifically harmonious name. Yes now I have started exploitingng my expertise. But since this ercisese is time consuming can not be generalised. One can visualised change in Orar pa tern. Fortunately this is not known to TV/Banner gurus or commercial persons One can not even imagine that there could be so many methods for analysing specific grade of lucky gemstones. Sir my intension is not to heart any body. I am stating what I have experienced and which may be looked also. Regards, Gopal Raju Scientist n Occutist --- On Thu, 16/7/09, Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_mrutyunj ay > wrote: Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_mrutyunj ay > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. Thursday, 16 July, 2009, 4:11 PM Dear friend, Please come up with satisfactory scientific reasons/ explanations through which type of scientific experiments you had come to these conclusions about gem therapy/ color therapy ? What is the hesitation in coming up with your 'detailed process of experiementation' 'tools of experimentation' and 'scientific parameters' used in your experiment ? Regards, Mrutyunjay Tripathy, , gopal raju <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > No Dear sir, your concepts are absolutely childish regarding color therapy. You are not aware of harmony theory of the celestril bodies. Karma and bhog theory is prime and destiny can not be changed, true, but kriyaman karma also work like a catalyst and may effect up to some extent. This depend on the expertise of the person who is analysing that catalyst. Persons like TV/Banner Guru etc. who are claiming 100 % results may be think of what they are. > I am not commercially exploiting sir. I am a Scientist and not superstitious as well , I claim what I experiment. I analyse gemstone considering more than 25 methos of occult science and claim yes 5, 10,20 or even more percent they are effectve. > Kindly read Gopal Raju and than conclude or make any concept for what I am stressing. > Sorry sir, if my words heart you. but I have to say this because I have dedicated my entire life for the occult. > Regards, > Gopal Raju > > --- On Thu, 18/6/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > Thursday, 18 June, 2009, 7:16 AM > > > Message below the quoted posting... > > , " Gopal Raju " <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > Dear all > > > > Remedial measures through more than 25 methods of Occult Sciences of analysing lucky gemstone is possible. My R & D oriented work, against commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology, > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > Gopal Raju ji! > > Thank God that you arrived on the scene! Now we all can relax and learn from your sharings! > > I hope I am not being presumptive but had they taken your advice, history would have been different, as we know it today: > > Diana would have not died, the way she did > > Rajiv Gandhi would not have died the way he did, nor his mother or brother > > Probably Saddam should have begged you for advice and he would not have died biting a MARS bar in a hole in the earth and had he received your gemstone advice, George Bush (JR.) would have been known today as the WISE one instead of just keeping the seat warm for one who may yet turn out to be so! > > What is your recommendation for Barack OBama? Which gemstone or gemstones should he wear and where should he write to seek your blessings? > > Rohiniranjan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Dear Shri Vinay Bhai, I apologise for what I have stated. Secondly My intention is not to heart any body. I only quote what I have experienced in my 30 years career as a senior scientist, astrologer, writer, occultist etc. Now I knew that inspite of my books, writups, magazines, lectures etc. am a big ZERO. I always bent to intellect but I irritate ONLY with banner Gurus/Astrologers who claims for 100 % accuratete results and that too without proper knowledge of the subject. They are earning without justifying the things. I may be wrong in my concepts. Any way I do not want to fall in unwanted and objectionable argumentsts. Since I do not find fit for the esteemed group, kindly remove my name. Again with apologise, If I have heart anybody.Gopal Raju --- On Fri, 17/7/09, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote: Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 Re: Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. Friday, 17 July, 2009, 10:22 AM Gopal Raju ji, Please do not use words like " childish " for anyone. Rohini Ranjan Ji may sometimes appear to be joking, but he is a serious and senior astrologer. Your initial message would have invited more severe reaction from me than actually came from RR ji, but your later clarification removed some of the misgivings generated by vague aspersions on all astrologers made in your initial message ( " commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology " ). I never charged any fees for my astrological services and softwares. Why you suppose all astrologers are creating panic for exploiting commercially ? Are not many scientists cheating the nation by drawing huge sums from national excequer in the name of research producing fake results, which is a great crime in a poor nation where kids go to bed crying for food? Many scientists plagiarise researches of others. My works have been verified by NASA and IISc (can we know your credentials as a scientist, if it does not offend you?), and I know many scientists should be behind bars for what they are actually doing. Some of them are even involved in smuggling fissile material out of the country and are supplying sensitive weapons to naxalites and terrorists. But it does not mean all scientists are bad. Similarly, all astrologers are not bad. I hope you will be more gentle and clear in futue. We will certainly like to learn about your research, but not in a combative manner. -Vinay Jha ============ ========= ==== === ____________ _________ _________ __ Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com> Friday, July 17, 2009 5:45:45 AM Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. I like the adjective, Childish! From the mouth of babes shall man hear the truth and it shall irritate and offend him! Often readily and force him to question and thus grow ;-) So what advice must be given to the President of US, as requested below? RR , gopal raju <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > No Dear sir, your concepts are absolutely childish regarding color therapy. You are not aware of harmony theory of the celestril bodies. Karma and bhog theory is prime and destiny can not be changed, true, but kriyaman karma also work like a catalyst and may effect up to some extent. This depend on the expertise of the person who is analysing that catalyst. Persons like TV/Banner Guru etc. who are claiming 100 % results may be think of what they are. > I am not commercially exploiting sir. I am a Scientist and not superstitious as well , I claim what I experiment. I analyse gemstone considering more than 25 methos of occult science and claim yes 5, 10,20 or even more percent they are effectve. > Kindly read Gopal Raju and than conclude or make any concept for what I am stressing. > Sorry sir, if my words heart you. but I have to say this because I have dedicated my entire life for the occult. > Regards, > Gopal Raju > > --- On Thu, 18/6/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > Thursday, 18 June, 2009, 7:16 AM > > > Message below the quoted posting... > > , " Gopal Raju " <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > Dear all > > > > Remedial measures through more than 25 methods of Occult Sciences of analysing lucky gemstone is possible. My R & D oriented work, against commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology, > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > Gopal Raju ji! > > Thank God that you arrived on the scene! Now we all can relax and learn from your sharings! > > I hope I am not being presumptive but had they taken your advice, history would have been different, as we know it today: > > Diana would have not died, the way she did > > Rajiv Gandhi would not have died the way he did, nor his mother or brother > > Probably Saddam should have begged you for advice and he would not have died biting a MARS bar in a hole in the earth and had he received your gemstone advice, George Bush (JR.) would have been known today as the WISE one instead of just keeping the seat warm for one who may yet turn out to be so! > > What is your recommendation for Barack OBama? Which gemstone or gemstones should he wear and where should he write to seek your blessings? > > Rohiniranjan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Dear all I withdraw my name from the group. I apologise if I have heart any body. My free services are always open to really needy and intellectuals through my website :www.astrotantra4u.com Gopal raju Scientist and occultist --- On Thu, 16/7/09, gopal raju <gopalraju12 wrote: gopal raju <gopalraju12 Re: Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. Thursday, 16 July, 2009, 11:04 PM Dear sir, Kindly spare time and read gemstones - A scientific approach. I request that this type of R & D oriented works may be widley circulated to develop interest amongst those who have been commercially exploited Plz login : http://astrotantra4 u.com/gem. pdf Regards, Gopal Raju Scientist n Occultist 09760111555 --- On Thu, 16/7/09, Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_mrutyunj ay > wrote: Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_mrutyunj ay > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. Thursday, 16 July, 2009, 4:11 PM Dear friend, Please come up with satisfactory scientific reasons/ explanations through which type of scientific experiments you had come to these conclusions about gem therapy/ color therapy ? What is the hesitation in coming up with your 'detailed process of experiementation' 'tools of experimentation' and 'scientific parameters' used in your experiment ? Regards, Mrutyunjay Tripathy, , gopal raju <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > No Dear sir, your concepts are absolutely childish regarding color therapy. You are not aware of harmony theory of the celestril bodies. Karma and bhog theory is prime and destiny can not be changed, true, but kriyaman karma also work like a catalyst and may effect up to some extent. This depend on the expertise of the person who is analysing that catalyst. Persons like TV/Banner Guru etc. who are claiming 100 % results may be think of what they are. > I am not commercially exploiting sir. I am a Scientist and not superstitious as well , I claim what I experiment. I analyse gemstone considering more than 25 methos of occult science and claim yes 5, 10,20 or even more percent they are effectve. > Kindly read Gopal Raju and than conclude or make any concept for what I am stressing. > Sorry sir, if my words heart you. but I have to say this because I have dedicated my entire life for the occult. > Regards, > Gopal Raju > > --- On Thu, 18/6/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > Thursday, 18 June, 2009, 7:16 AM > > > Message below the quoted posting... > > , " Gopal Raju " <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > Dear all > > > > Remedial measures through more than 25 methods of Occult Sciences of analysing lucky gemstone is possible. My R & D oriented work, against commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology, > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > Gopal Raju ji! > > Thank God that you arrived on the scene! Now we all can relax and learn from your sharings! > > I hope I am not being presumptive but had they taken your advice, history would have been different, as we know it today: > > Diana would have not died, the way she did > > Rajiv Gandhi would not have died the way he did, nor his mother or brother > > Probably Saddam should have begged you for advice and he would not have died biting a MARS bar in a hole in the earth and had he received your gemstone advice, George Bush (JR.) would have been known today as the WISE one instead of just keeping the seat warm for one who may yet turn out to be so! > > What is your recommendation for Barack OBama? Which gemstone or gemstones should he wear and where should he write to seek your blessings? > > Rohiniranjan > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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