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Dear Dada,

 

Free-will is neither obscure nor jingoism! Over the many years in this very

forum I have challenged many and many to my glee and thankfulness have listened!

To those who felt my postings were meaningless and controversial and not quite

in line with what they felt should be the direction and agenda of this forum or

jyotish generally, I merely said: If what I write makes not sense or incenses

you -- close your eyes and move on! The three MONKEYS! See no Evil, Hear no

Evil, Speak no Evil! The DROLL threesome!

 

Not all three SENSES need to be shut down at the same time! What I have done is

simply to try and defocus on one or the other portal at a given time of

practice!

 

Imagine that you are a pilot driving a Jet-Plane that carries so many hundreds

of passangers that depend on YOU!

 

As you -- MR. PILOT and GOD in a sense attempt to carry them all to their

destiny, you rely on staying focussed on all those gauges and meters and

video-screens all of which are transducers and not direct experience! Something

that you take for granted if you were taking your dog out for a walk while it

relieves itself! While more direct experiences are involved -- you are still

rely on your transducers? Your Sensory organs and their capabilities!

 

The difference probably lies in how many you could potentially hurt as opposed

to how many the jet pilot potentially can!

 

In other words, it again becomes a NUMBERS game!

 

How many did we lose in the end! How about the barely out of teenage, 20-25 year

old ones that we globally send to brutal WARS from which many return in a casket

just a bad nightmare for their parents for LIFE -- to be saluted and permanently

lost for others who care only for the moment? Despite the fanfare and pomp --

the war continues and kids continue to die for a cause that is not theirs! They

were just looking for a summer job or something better than the alternative

possibilities! :-(

 

 

 

, vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini Dada,

> " There is a missing link between Destiny and Free-will though! " in terms of

jyotish jingoism is the strength of 5th house known as also Poorva

> Forgetting these concepts as obscure " Free Will " is a real and most powerful

weapon(Almighty give) one need that kind of push and initiative to keep it as a

" stand bye " and keep invoking and acting on freewill.This promotes 10th house

ardha bahva.The root in 9th has to grow and so use this weapon always saves

everu human being but with some disgretion ofcourse.

> vrkrishnan

>

>

> --- On Fri, 6/19/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

> Re: Namaskar all guruji's!!!!!

>

> Friday, June 19, 2009, 7:24 PM

>

>

Krishnan Dada,

>

> Unfortunately, people misunderstand the 'khudi/self/ freewill' part entirely

and begin to see it as a negation of destiny. Destiny and free-will are not

mutually antagonistic or an 'either-or' situation. Brings us back to the

allegory that Ramakrishna Thakoor told involving the Aries tied to the 8th house

through the Rope called Saturn! A beautiful allegory that knowingly or

unknowingly, the Great Saint delivered that fits the Kalpurusha's kundali and

its esoteric interpretation, obviously!

>

> There is a missing link between Destiny and Free-will though!

>

> Neither of these two are absolute, static or permanent but over lifetimes or

even within one lifetime can change!

>

> The missing link, unfortunately is more readily inserted into the picture by

egotism which arrogantly is displayed by the so called " Self-made " individual

who thinks that he alone is the maker of destiny! On the other end of the

spectrum lives the Bhakta that has unshakeable FAITH that God alone (HE) makes

destinies.

>

> Somewhere between the " pole " and the 'goat' lies on the ROPE, that something

called Divination -- Jyotish in the current context of our conversation! Through

Jyotish there arises the possibility of the awareness as to the extent of the

rope and the ways and means of dissolution of the rope.

>

> It is not about egotism, if one is wise, but cognition really! For most human

beings that would mean living the full experience as a human being who is more

into action and not so much into results! Efforts please the soul, letting

outcomes or anticipations thereof cloud our mind (moon) leads to the fugue of

Maya that keeps the soul remote and unseen...

>

> RR

>

> , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > wah Dada.

> > Very good citation from Shri Iqbal,the soul that continues to inspires every

one.Even if we repeat these two lines thrice a day it will be a good magic

potion(even more than the misused viagara) for fun

> > with regards

> > vrkrishnan

> > --- On Thu, 6/18/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > Re: Namaskar all guruji's!!!! !

> >

> > Thursday, June 18, 2009, 10:50 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I think it was Iqbaal who wrote:

> >

> > Khudi ko kar buland itna, ke har takdeer se pehlay

> > Khuda bande se khud puche, bata teri raza kiya hai

> >

> > Something to look forward to and work towards, by everyone!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr Rao,

> > > Just 24 and trying to explore world and so much of negative assessment

about yourself.You have exalted venus in 4th with mars and so you prove your

comptence and tell you can be a very good designer.

> > > Also jupiter in navamasa lagna a rare gift for blessed one and sets right

malefic  aspect of saturn in 5th and rahu in 9th.

> > > Moon in 7th in D/9 and with rahu in 5th need remedial measures.As you like

mother take her good wishes always .worship Goddess Sharaada regulalrly.

> > > Prepare your passport and visa and try for jobs in west Asia and in North

in India.You will have good chances and good career ahead.

> > > You are handsome,likes to be preoccupied and busy.The question of failures

and no body likes and all that is to reduce your personality. Improve your

gaiety and look to move  for further studies and job in abroad.

> > > Prepare for GRE/GATE/TOFEL to climb up the aldder.A first class and his

future never never be bad.Overcome your ill feelings by prayers

> > > vrkrishnan

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 6/18/09, Uma Maheshwar rao Dama <umamaheshwarrao_ dama@>

wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Uma Maheshwar rao Dama <umamaheshwarrao_ dama@>

> > > Re: Re: Namaskar all guruji's!!!! !

> > >

> > > Thursday, June 18, 2009, 12:20 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---

> > >

> > >  

> > > Dear All,

> > >  

> > >

> > >  

> > > This is Uma maheshwar rao from Hyderabad. MY DOB is 26-02-1985 at 2:05AM

in place of birth : Hyderabad.

> > >  

> > >

> > >  

> > >    

> > > I want to know whether i will be successful in life , because i have

> > >    failed many times in lot of things in my life and i am frustrated .

> > >  

> > > till now if i see back i have not achieved anything substantial. is my

> > >  

> > > life going to like this for the rest of my life or is there any thing

> > >  

> > > good that can happen to me sir. my parents are also frustrated and

> > >  

> > > nobody really likes me or care about me except my mother .and iam jobless

though i passed B.Tech (Electricals) with first class, i am attending and doing

interviews succesfully but iam not getting any job , Is  software professional

suits my carrer or electrical field

> > >  

> > >

> > >  

> > > Please

> > >  

> > > help me out  any remedies

> > >  

> > > or any gemstones which i have wear or any puja to be performed .

> > >  

> > >

> > >  

> > > Thanks

> > >    uma maheshwar rao.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ICC World Twenty20 England & #39;09 exclusively on ! CRICKET

http://cricket.

> > >

> > >

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I think it is my elated thought that might have linked free will with 5th house

or poorva.I mean 5th as a hous eof wisdom/intution emnating from past karma is

obscure(kind of understanding to me).where as 9th and 10th have provisions for

coming out from Destiny/Bhagya concept and act in free will

vrkrishnan

 

--- On Fri, 6/19/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

 

 

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

WAR?!??

 

Friday, June 19, 2009, 11:00 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Dada,

 

Free-will is neither obscure nor jingoism! Over the many years in this very

forum I have challenged many and many to my glee and thankfulness have listened!

To those who felt my postings were meaningless and controversial and not quite

in line with what they felt should be the direction and agenda of this forum or

jyotish generally, I merely said: If what I write makes not sense or incenses

you -- close your eyes and move on! The three MONKEYS! See no Evil, Hear no

Evil, Speak no Evil! The DROLL threesome!

 

Not all three SENSES need to be shut down at the same time! What I have done is

simply to try and defocus on one or the other portal at a given time of

practice!

 

Imagine that you are a pilot driving a Jet-Plane that carries so many hundreds

of passangers that depend on YOU!

 

As you -- MR. PILOT and GOD in a sense attempt to carry them all to their

destiny, you rely on staying focussed on all those gauges and meters and

video-screens all of which are transducers and not direct experience! Something

that you take for granted if you were taking your dog out for a walk while it

relieves itself! While more direct experiences are involved -- you are still

rely on your transducers? Your Sensory organs and their capabilities!

 

The difference probably lies in how many you could potentially hurt as opposed

to how many the jet pilot potentially can!

 

In other words, it again becomes a NUMBERS game!

 

How many did we lose in the end! How about the barely out of teenage, 20-25 year

old ones that we globally send to brutal WARS from which many return in a casket

just a bad nightmare for their parents for LIFE -- to be saluted and permanently

lost for others who care only for the moment? Despite the fanfare and pomp --

the war continues and kids continue to die for a cause that is not theirs! They

were just looking for a summer job or something better than the alternative

possibilities! :-(

 

, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini Dada,

> " There is a missing link between Destiny and Free-will though! " in terms of

jyotish jingoism is the strength of 5th house known as also Poorva

> Forgetting these concepts as obscure " Free Will " is a real and most powerful

weapon(Almighty give) one need that kind of push and initiative to keep it as a

" stand bye " and keep invoking and acting on freewill.This promotes 10th house

ardha bahva.The root in 9th has to grow and so use this weapon always saves

everu human being but with some disgretion ofcourse.

> vrkrishnan

>

>

> --- On Fri, 6/19/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> Re: Namaskar all guruji's!!!! !

>

> Friday, June 19, 2009, 7:24 PM

>

>

Krishnan Dada,

>

> Unfortunately, people misunderstand the 'khudi/self/ freewill' part entirely

and begin to see it as a negation of destiny. Destiny and free-will are not

mutually antagonistic or an 'either-or' situation. Brings us back to the

allegory that Ramakrishna Thakoor told involving the Aries tied to the 8th house

through the Rope called Saturn! A beautiful allegory that knowingly or

unknowingly, the Great Saint delivered that fits the Kalpurusha's kundali and

its esoteric interpretation, obviously!

>

> There is a missing link between Destiny and Free-will though!

>

> Neither of these two are absolute, static or permanent but over lifetimes or

even within one lifetime can change!

>

> The missing link, unfortunately is more readily inserted into the picture by

egotism which arrogantly is displayed by the so called " Self-made " individual

who thinks that he alone is the maker of destiny! On the other end of the

spectrum lives the Bhakta that has unshakeable FAITH that God alone (HE) makes

destinies.

>

> Somewhere between the " pole " and the 'goat' lies on the ROPE, that something

called Divination -- Jyotish in the current context of our conversation! Through

Jyotish there arises the possibility of the awareness as to the extent of the

rope and the ways and means of dissolution of the rope.

>

> It is not about egotism, if one is wise, but cognition really! For most human

beings that would mean living the full experience as a human being who is more

into action and not so much into results! Efforts please the soul, letting

outcomes or anticipations thereof cloud our mind (moon) leads to the fugue of

Maya that keeps the soul remote and unseen...

>

> RR

>

> , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > wah Dada.

> > Very good citation from Shri Iqbal,the soul that continues to inspires every

one.Even if we repeat these two lines thrice a day it will be a good magic

potion(even more than the misused viagara) for fun

> > with regards

> > vrkrishnan

> > --- On Thu, 6/18/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > Re: Namaskar all guruji's!!!! !

> >

> > Thursday, June 18, 2009, 10:50 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I think it was Iqbaal who wrote:

> >

> > Khudi ko kar buland itna, ke har takdeer se pehlay

> > Khuda bande se khud puche, bata teri raza kiya hai

> >

> > Something to look forward to and work towards, by everyone!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr Rao,

> > > Just 24 and trying to explore world and so much of negative assessment

about yourself.You have exalted venus in 4th with mars and so you prove your

comptence and tell you can be a very good designer.

> > > Also jupiter in navamasa lagna a rare gift for blessed one and sets right

malefic  aspect of saturn in 5th and rahu in 9th.

> > > Moon in 7th in D/9 and with rahu in 5th need remedial measures.As you like

mother take her good wishes always .worship Goddess Sharaada regulalrly.

> > > Prepare your passport and visa and try for jobs in west Asia and in North

in India.You will have good chances and good career ahead.

> > > You are handsome,likes to be preoccupied and busy.The question of failures

and no body likes and all that is to reduce your personality. Improve your

gaiety and look to move  for further studies and job in abroad.

> > > Prepare for GRE/GATE/TOFEL to climb up the aldder.A first class and his

future never never be bad.Overcome your ill feelings by prayers

> > > vrkrishnan

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 6/18/09, Uma Maheshwar rao Dama <umamaheshwarrao_ dama@>

wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Uma Maheshwar rao Dama <umamaheshwarrao_ dama@>

> > > Re: Re: Namaskar all guruji's!!!! !

> > >

> > > Thursday, June 18, 2009, 12:20 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---

> > >

> > >  

> > > Dear All,

> > >  

> > >

> > >  

> > > This is Uma maheshwar rao from Hyderabad. MY DOB is 26-02-1985 at 2:05AM

in place of birth : Hyderabad.

> > >  

> > >

> > >  

> > >    

> > > I want to know whether i will be successful in life , because i have

> > >    failed many times in lot of things in my life and i am frustrated .

> > >  

> > > till now if i see back i have not achieved anything substantial. is my

> > >  

> > > life going to like this for the rest of my life or is there any thing

> > >  

> > > good that can happen to me sir. my parents are also frustrated and

> > >  

> > > nobody really likes me or care about me except my mother .and iam jobless

though i passed B.Tech (Electricals) with first class, i am attending and doing

interviews succesfully but iam not getting any job , Is  software professional

suits my carrer or electrical field

> > >  

> > >

> > >  

> > > Please

> > >  

> > > help me out  any remedies

> > >  

> > > or any gemstones which i have wear or any puja to be performed .

> > >  

> > >

> > >  

> > > Thanks

> > >    uma maheshwar rao.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ICC World Twenty20 England & #39;09 exclusively on ! CRICKET

http://cricket.

> > >

> > >

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Dear Dadabhai,

 

The only WISDOM that matters really is not that which is given, gifted or

received (5) but that which is realized personally (1)!

 

That point where Sun would have been on your birth moment if you were born at

sunrise -- all this uhapoha would have been simply academic!

 

Rao ji mentioned that at the precise moment of sunrise -- nothing gets born and

the birthing onlym starts 3 minutes later!

 

True or False?

 

 

 

, vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> I think it is my elated thought that might have linked free will with 5th

house or poorva.I mean 5th as a hous eof wisdom/intution emnating from past

karma is obscure(kind of understanding to me).where as 9th and 10th have

provisions for coming out from Destiny/Bhagya concept and act in free will

> vrkrishnan

>

> --- On Fri, 6/19/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

> WAR?!??

>

> Friday, June 19, 2009, 11:00 PM

>

>

Dear Dada,

>

> Free-will is neither obscure nor jingoism! Over the many years in this very

forum I have challenged many and many to my glee and thankfulness have listened!

To those who felt my postings were meaningless and controversial and not quite

in line with what they felt should be the direction and agenda of this forum or

jyotish generally, I merely said: If what I write makes not sense or incenses

you -- close your eyes and move on! The three MONKEYS! See no Evil, Hear no

Evil, Speak no Evil! The DROLL threesome!

>

> Not all three SENSES need to be shut down at the same time! What I have done

is simply to try and defocus on one or the other portal at a given time of

practice!

>

> Imagine that you are a pilot driving a Jet-Plane that carries so many hundreds

of passangers that depend on YOU!

>

> As you -- MR. PILOT and GOD in a sense attempt to carry them all to their

destiny, you rely on staying focussed on all those gauges and meters and

video-screens all of which are transducers and not direct experience! Something

that you take for granted if you were taking your dog out for a walk while it

relieves itself! While more direct experiences are involved -- you are still

rely on your transducers? Your Sensory organs and their capabilities!

>

> The difference probably lies in how many you could potentially hurt as opposed

to how many the jet pilot potentially can!

>

> In other words, it again becomes a NUMBERS game!

>

> How many did we lose in the end! How about the barely out of teenage, 20-25

year old ones that we globally send to brutal WARS from which many return in a

casket just a bad nightmare for their parents for LIFE -- to be saluted and

permanently lost for others who care only for the moment? Despite the fanfare

and pomp -- the war continues and kids continue to die for a cause that is not

theirs! They were just looking for a summer job or something better than the

alternative possibilities! :-(

>

> , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini Dada,

> > " There is a missing link between Destiny and Free-will though! " in terms of

jyotish jingoism is the strength of 5th house known as also Poorva

> > Forgetting these concepts as obscure " Free Will " is a real and most powerful

weapon(Almighty give) one need that kind of push and initiative to keep it as a

" stand bye " and keep invoking and acting on freewill.This promotes 10th house

ardha bahva.The root in 9th has to grow and so use this weapon always saves

everu human being but with some disgretion ofcourse.

> > vrkrishnan

> >

> >

> > --- On Fri, 6/19/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > Re: Namaskar all guruji's!!!! !

> >

> > Friday, June 19, 2009, 7:24 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Krishnan Dada,

> >

> > Unfortunately, people misunderstand the 'khudi/self/ freewill' part entirely

and begin to see it as a negation of destiny. Destiny and free-will are not

mutually antagonistic or an 'either-or' situation. Brings us back to the

allegory that Ramakrishna Thakoor told involving the Aries tied to the 8th house

through the Rope called Saturn! A beautiful allegory that knowingly or

unknowingly, the Great Saint delivered that fits the Kalpurusha's kundali and

its esoteric interpretation, obviously!

> >

> > There is a missing link between Destiny and Free-will though!

> >

> > Neither of these two are absolute, static or permanent but over lifetimes or

even within one lifetime can change!

> >

> > The missing link, unfortunately is more readily inserted into the picture by

egotism which arrogantly is displayed by the so called " Self-made " individual

who thinks that he alone is the maker of destiny! On the other end of the

spectrum lives the Bhakta that has unshakeable FAITH that God alone (HE) makes

destinies.

> >

> > Somewhere between the " pole " and the 'goat' lies on the ROPE, that something

called Divination -- Jyotish in the current context of our conversation! Through

Jyotish there arises the possibility of the awareness as to the extent of the

rope and the ways and means of dissolution of the rope.

> >

> > It is not about egotism, if one is wise, but cognition really! For most

human beings that would mean living the full experience as a human being who is

more into action and not so much into results! Efforts please the soul, letting

outcomes or anticipations thereof cloud our mind (moon) leads to the fugue of

Maya that keeps the soul remote and unseen...

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> > >

> > > wah Dada.

> > > Very good citation from Shri Iqbal,the soul that continues to inspires

every one.Even if we repeat these two lines thrice a day it will be a good magic

potion(even more than the misused viagara) for fun

> > > with regards

> > > vrkrishnan

> > > --- On Thu, 6/18/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > > Re: Namaskar all guruji's!!!! !

> > >

> > > Thursday, June 18, 2009, 10:50 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I think it was Iqbaal who wrote:

> > >

> > > Khudi ko kar buland itna, ke har takdeer se pehlay

> > > Khuda bande se khud puche, bata teri raza kiya hai

> > >

> > > Something to look forward to and work towards, by everyone!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mr Rao,

> > > > Just 24 and trying to explore world and so much of negative assessment

about yourself.You have exalted venus in 4th with mars and so you prove your

comptence and tell you can be a very good designer.

> > > > Also jupiter in navamasa lagna a rare gift for blessed one and sets

right malefic  aspect of saturn in 5th and rahu in 9th.

> > > > Moon in 7th in D/9 and with rahu in 5th need remedial measures.As you

like mother take her good wishes always .worship Goddess Sharaada regulalrly.

> > > > Prepare your passport and visa and try for jobs in west Asia and in

North in India.You will have good chances and good career ahead.

> > > > You are handsome,likes to be preoccupied and busy.The question of

failures and no body likes and all that is to reduce your personality. Improve

your gaiety and look to move  for further studies and job in abroad.

> > > > Prepare for GRE/GATE/TOFEL to climb up the aldder.A first class and his

future never never be bad.Overcome your ill feelings by prayers

> > > > vrkrishnan

> > > >

> > > > --- On Thu, 6/18/09, Uma Maheshwar rao Dama <umamaheshwarrao_ dama@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Uma Maheshwar rao Dama <umamaheshwarrao_ dama@>

> > > > Re: Re: Namaskar all guruji's!!!! !

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, June 18, 2009, 12:20 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > > This is Uma maheshwar rao from Hyderabad. MY DOB is 26-02-1985 at 2:05AM

in place of birth : Hyderabad.

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > >    

> > > > I want to know whether i will be successful in life , because i have

> > > >    failed many times in lot of things in my life and i am frustrated .

> > > >  

> > > > till now if i see back i have not achieved anything substantial. is my

> > > >  

> > > > life going to like this for the rest of my life or is there any thing

> > > >  

> > > > good that can happen to me sir. my parents are also frustrated and

> > > >  

> > > > nobody really likes me or care about me except my mother .and iam

jobless though i passed B.Tech (Electricals) with first class, i am attending

and doing interviews succesfully but iam not getting any job , Is  software

professional suits my carrer or electrical field

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > > Please

> > > >  

> > > > help me out  any remedies

> > > >  

> > > > or any gemstones which i have wear or any puja to be performed .

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > > Thanks

> > > >    uma maheshwar rao.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ICC World Twenty20 England & #39;09 exclusively on ! CRICKET

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> > > >

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Rao Ji has very effectivley has put 3 mts(as later) and also we know sun rise

itself varies based on longitude and latitude.

Almanac/panchang are also having different calculations as far as sun rise is

concerned

This particular we consider for a moment as true as we keep the dorr open for

others to think

vrkrishnan

--- On Fri, 6/19/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

 

 

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

Re: WAR?!??

 

Friday, June 19, 2009, 11:57 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Dadabhai,

 

The only WISDOM that matters really is not that which is given, gifted or

received (5) but that which is realized personally (1)!

 

That point where Sun would have been on your birth moment if you were born at

sunrise -- all this uhapoha would have been simply academic!

 

Rao ji mentioned that at the precise moment of sunrise -- nothing gets born and

the birthing onlym starts 3 minutes later!

 

True or False?

 

, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

wrote:

>

> I think it is my elated thought that might have linked free will with 5th

house or poorva.I mean 5th as a hous eof wisdom/intution emnating from past

karma is obscure(kind of understanding to me).where as 9th and 10th have

provisions for coming out from Destiny/Bhagya concept and act in free will

> vrkrishnan

>

> --- On Fri, 6/19/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> WAR?!??

>

> Friday, June 19, 2009, 11:00 PM

>

>

Dear Dada,

>

> Free-will is neither obscure nor jingoism! Over the many years in this very

forum I have challenged many and many to my glee and thankfulness have listened!

To those who felt my postings were meaningless and controversial and not quite

in line with what they felt should be the direction and agenda of this forum or

jyotish generally, I merely said: If what I write makes not sense or incenses

you -- close your eyes and move on! The three MONKEYS! See no Evil, Hear no

Evil, Speak no Evil! The DROLL threesome!

>

> Not all three SENSES need to be shut down at the same time! What I have done

is simply to try and defocus on one or the other portal at a given time of

practice!

>

> Imagine that you are a pilot driving a Jet-Plane that carries so many hundreds

of passangers that depend on YOU!

>

> As you -- MR. PILOT and GOD in a sense attempt to carry them all to their

destiny, you rely on staying focussed on all those gauges and meters and

video-screens all of which are transducers and not direct experience! Something

that you take for granted if you were taking your dog out for a walk while it

relieves itself! While more direct experiences are involved -- you are still

rely on your transducers? Your Sensory organs and their capabilities!

>

> The difference probably lies in how many you could potentially hurt as opposed

to how many the jet pilot potentially can!

>

> In other words, it again becomes a NUMBERS game!

>

> How many did we lose in the end! How about the barely out of teenage, 20-25

year old ones that we globally send to brutal WARS from which many return in a

casket just a bad nightmare for their parents for LIFE -- to be saluted and

permanently lost for others who care only for the moment? Despite the fanfare

and pomp -- the war continues and kids continue to die for a cause that is not

theirs! They were just looking for a summer job or something better than the

alternative possibilities! :-(

>

> , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini Dada,

> > " There is a missing link between Destiny and Free-will though! " in terms of

jyotish jingoism is the strength of 5th house known as also Poorva

> > Forgetting these concepts as obscure " Free Will " is a real and most powerful

weapon(Almighty give) one need that kind of push and initiative to keep it as a

" stand bye " and keep invoking and acting on freewill.This promotes 10th house

ardha bahva.The root in 9th has to grow and so use this weapon always saves

everu human being but with some disgretion ofcourse.

> > vrkrishnan

> >

> >

> > --- On Fri, 6/19/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > Re: Namaskar all guruji's!!!! !

> >

> > Friday, June 19, 2009, 7:24 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Krishnan Dada,

> >

> > Unfortunately, people misunderstand the 'khudi/self/ freewill' part entirely

and begin to see it as a negation of destiny. Destiny and free-will are not

mutually antagonistic or an 'either-or' situation. Brings us back to the

allegory that Ramakrishna Thakoor told involving the Aries tied to the 8th house

through the Rope called Saturn! A beautiful allegory that knowingly or

unknowingly, the Great Saint delivered that fits the Kalpurusha's kundali and

its esoteric interpretation, obviously!

> >

> > There is a missing link between Destiny and Free-will though!

> >

> > Neither of these two are absolute, static or permanent but over lifetimes or

even within one lifetime can change!

> >

> > The missing link, unfortunately is more readily inserted into the picture by

egotism which arrogantly is displayed by the so called " Self-made " individual

who thinks that he alone is the maker of destiny! On the other end of the

spectrum lives the Bhakta that has unshakeable FAITH that God alone (HE) makes

destinies.

> >

> > Somewhere between the " pole " and the 'goat' lies on the ROPE, that something

called Divination -- Jyotish in the current context of our conversation! Through

Jyotish there arises the possibility of the awareness as to the extent of the

rope and the ways and means of dissolution of the rope.

> >

> > It is not about egotism, if one is wise, but cognition really! For most

human beings that would mean living the full experience as a human being who is

more into action and not so much into results! Efforts please the soul, letting

outcomes or anticipations thereof cloud our mind (moon) leads to the fugue of

Maya that keeps the soul remote and unseen...

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> > >

> > > wah Dada.

> > > Very good citation from Shri Iqbal,the soul that continues to inspires

every one.Even if we repeat these two lines thrice a day it will be a good magic

potion(even more than the misused viagara) for fun

> > > with regards

> > > vrkrishnan

> > > --- On Thu, 6/18/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > > Re: Namaskar all guruji's!!!! !

> > >

> > > Thursday, June 18, 2009, 10:50 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I think it was Iqbaal who wrote:

> > >

> > > Khudi ko kar buland itna, ke har takdeer se pehlay

> > > Khuda bande se khud puche, bata teri raza kiya hai

> > >

> > > Something to look forward to and work towards, by everyone!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mr Rao,

> > > > Just 24 and trying to explore world and so much of negative assessment

about yourself.You have exalted venus in 4th with mars and so you prove your

comptence and tell you can be a very good designer.

> > > > Also jupiter in navamasa lagna a rare gift for blessed one and sets

right malefic  aspect of saturn in 5th and rahu in 9th.

> > > > Moon in 7th in D/9 and with rahu in 5th need remedial measures.As you

like mother take her good wishes always .worship Goddess Sharaada regulalrly.

> > > > Prepare your passport and visa and try for jobs in west Asia and in

North in India.You will have good chances and good career ahead.

> > > > You are handsome,likes to be preoccupied and busy.The question of

failures and no body likes and all that is to reduce your personality. Improve

your gaiety and look to move  for further studies and job in abroad.

> > > > Prepare for GRE/GATE/TOFEL to climb up the aldder.A first class and his

future never never be bad.Overcome your ill feelings by prayers

> > > > vrkrishnan

> > > >

> > > > --- On Thu, 6/18/09, Uma Maheshwar rao Dama <umamaheshwarrao_ dama@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Uma Maheshwar rao Dama <umamaheshwarrao_ dama@>

> > > > Re: Re: Namaskar all guruji's!!!! !

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, June 18, 2009, 12:20 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > > This is Uma maheshwar rao from Hyderabad. MY DOB is 26-02-1985 at 2:05AM

in place of birth : Hyderabad.

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > >    

> > > > I want to know whether i will be successful in life , because i have

> > > >    failed many times in lot of things in my life and i am frustrated .

> > > >  

> > > > till now if i see back i have not achieved anything substantial. is my

> > > >  

> > > > life going to like this for the rest of my life or is there any thing

> > > >  

> > > > good that can happen to me sir. my parents are also frustrated and

> > > >  

> > > > nobody really likes me or care about me except my mother .and iam

jobless though i passed B.Tech (Electricals) with first class, i am attending

and doing interviews succesfully but iam not getting any job , Is  software

professional suits my carrer or electrical field

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > > Please

> > > >  

> > > > help me out  any remedies

> > > >  

> > > > or any gemstones which i have wear or any puja to be performed .

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > > Thanks

> > > >    uma maheshwar rao.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ICC World Twenty20 England & #39;09 exclusively on ! CRICKET

http://cricket.

> > > >

> > > >

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In his book on nadi rectification, Raoji recommends using the astronomical

sunrise as he calls it, using the center of sun as the rising moment. He gave

tables to calculate those as well. It is very complete and self-sufficient book.

 

RR

 

, vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Rao Ji has very effectivley has put 3 mts(as later) and also we know sun rise

itself varies based on longitude and latitude.

> Almanac/panchang are also having different calculations as far as sun rise is

concerned

> This particular we consider for a moment as true as we keep the dorr open for

others to think

> vrkrishnan

> --- On Fri, 6/19/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

> Re: WAR?!??

>

> Friday, June 19, 2009, 11:57 PM

>

>

Dear Dadabhai,

>

> The only WISDOM that matters really is not that which is given, gifted or

received (5) but that which is realized personally (1)!

>

> That point where Sun would have been on your birth moment if you were born at

sunrise -- all this uhapoha would have been simply academic!

>

> Rao ji mentioned that at the precise moment of sunrise -- nothing gets born

and the birthing onlym starts 3 minutes later!

>

> True or False?

>

> , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > I think it is my elated thought that might have linked free will with 5th

house or poorva.I mean 5th as a hous eof wisdom/intution emnating from past

karma is obscure(kind of understanding to me).where as 9th and 10th have

provisions for coming out from Destiny/Bhagya concept and act in free will

> > vrkrishnan

> >

> > --- On Fri, 6/19/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > WAR?!??

> >

> > Friday, June 19, 2009, 11:00 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Dada,

> >

> > Free-will is neither obscure nor jingoism! Over the many years in this very

forum I have challenged many and many to my glee and thankfulness have listened!

To those who felt my postings were meaningless and controversial and not quite

in line with what they felt should be the direction and agenda of this forum or

jyotish generally, I merely said: If what I write makes not sense or incenses

you -- close your eyes and move on! The three MONKEYS! See no Evil, Hear no

Evil, Speak no Evil! The DROLL threesome!

> >

> > Not all three SENSES need to be shut down at the same time! What I have done

is simply to try and defocus on one or the other portal at a given time of

practice!

> >

> > Imagine that you are a pilot driving a Jet-Plane that carries so many

hundreds of passangers that depend on YOU!

> >

> > As you -- MR. PILOT and GOD in a sense attempt to carry them all to their

destiny, you rely on staying focussed on all those gauges and meters and

video-screens all of which are transducers and not direct experience! Something

that you take for granted if you were taking your dog out for a walk while it

relieves itself! While more direct experiences are involved -- you are still

rely on your transducers? Your Sensory organs and their capabilities!

> >

> > The difference probably lies in how many you could potentially hurt as

opposed to how many the jet pilot potentially can!

> >

> > In other words, it again becomes a NUMBERS game!

> >

> > How many did we lose in the end! How about the barely out of teenage, 20-25

year old ones that we globally send to brutal WARS from which many return in a

casket just a bad nightmare for their parents for LIFE -- to be saluted and

permanently lost for others who care only for the moment? Despite the fanfare

and pomp -- the war continues and kids continue to die for a cause that is not

theirs! They were just looking for a summer job or something better than the

alternative possibilities! :-(

> >

> > , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini Dada,

> > > " There is a missing link between Destiny and Free-will though! " in terms of

jyotish jingoism is the strength of 5th house known as also Poorva

> > > Forgetting these concepts as obscure " Free Will " is a real and most

powerful weapon(Almighty give) one need that kind of push and initiative to keep

it as a " stand bye " and keep invoking and acting on freewill.This promotes 10th

house ardha bahva.The root in 9th has to grow and so use this weapon always

saves everu human being but with some disgretion ofcourse.

> > > vrkrishnan

> > >

> > >

> > > --- On Fri, 6/19/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > > Re: Namaskar all guruji's!!!! !

> > >

> > > Friday, June 19, 2009, 7:24 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Krishnan Dada,

> > >

> > > Unfortunately, people misunderstand the 'khudi/self/ freewill' part

entirely and begin to see it as a negation of destiny. Destiny and free-will are

not mutually antagonistic or an 'either-or' situation. Brings us back to the

allegory that Ramakrishna Thakoor told involving the Aries tied to the 8th house

through the Rope called Saturn! A beautiful allegory that knowingly or

unknowingly, the Great Saint delivered that fits the Kalpurusha's kundali and

its esoteric interpretation, obviously!

> > >

> > > There is a missing link between Destiny and Free-will though!

> > >

> > > Neither of these two are absolute, static or permanent but over lifetimes

or even within one lifetime can change!

> > >

> > > The missing link, unfortunately is more readily inserted into the picture

by egotism which arrogantly is displayed by the so called " Self-made " individual

who thinks that he alone is the maker of destiny! On the other end of the

spectrum lives the Bhakta that has unshakeable FAITH that God alone (HE) makes

destinies.

> > >

> > > Somewhere between the " pole " and the 'goat' lies on the ROPE, that

something called Divination -- Jyotish in the current context of our

conversation! Through Jyotish there arises the possibility of the awareness as

to the extent of the rope and the ways and means of dissolution of the rope.

> > >

> > > It is not about egotism, if one is wise, but cognition really! For most

human beings that would mean living the full experience as a human being who is

more into action and not so much into results! Efforts please the soul, letting

outcomes or anticipations thereof cloud our mind (moon) leads to the fugue of

Maya that keeps the soul remote and unseen...

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > wah Dada.

> > > > Very good citation from Shri Iqbal,the soul that continues to inspires

every one.Even if we repeat these two lines thrice a day it will be a good magic

potion(even more than the misused viagara) for fun

> > > > with regards

> > > > vrkrishnan

> > > > --- On Thu, 6/18/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > > > Re: Namaskar all guruji's!!!! !

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, June 18, 2009, 10:50 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I think it was Iqbaal who wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Khudi ko kar buland itna, ke har takdeer se pehlay

> > > > Khuda bande se khud puche, bata teri raza kiya hai

> > > >

> > > > Something to look forward to and work towards, by everyone!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@

...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr Rao,

> > > > > Just 24 and trying to explore world and so much of negative assessment

about yourself.You have exalted venus in 4th with mars and so you prove your

comptence and tell you can be a very good designer.

> > > > > Also jupiter in navamasa lagna a rare gift for blessed one and sets

right malefic  aspect of saturn in 5th and rahu in 9th.

> > > > > Moon in 7th in D/9 and with rahu in 5th need remedial measures.As you

like mother take her good wishes always .worship Goddess Sharaada regulalrly.

> > > > > Prepare your passport and visa and try for jobs in west Asia and in

North in India.You will have good chances and good career ahead.

> > > > > You are handsome,likes to be preoccupied and busy.The question of

failures and no body likes and all that is to reduce your personality. Improve

your gaiety and look to move  for further studies and job in abroad.

> > > > > Prepare for GRE/GATE/TOFEL to climb up the aldder.A first class and

his future never never be bad.Overcome your ill feelings by prayers

> > > > > vrkrishnan

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Thu, 6/18/09, Uma Maheshwar rao Dama <umamaheshwarrao_ dama@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Uma Maheshwar rao Dama <umamaheshwarrao_ dama@>

> > > > > Re: Re: Namaskar all guruji's!!!! !

> > > > >

> > > > > Thursday, June 18, 2009, 12:20 PM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ---

> > > > >

> > > > >  

> > > > > Dear All,

> > > > >  

> > > > >

> > > > >  

> > > > > This is Uma maheshwar rao from Hyderabad. MY DOB is 26-02-1985 at

2:05AM in place of birth : Hyderabad.

> > > > >  

> > > > >

> > > > >  

> > > > >    

> > > > > I want to know whether i will be successful in life , because i have

> > > > >    failed many times in lot of things in my life and i am frustrated .

> > > > >  

> > > > > till now if i see back i have not achieved anything substantial. is my

> > > > >  

> > > > > life going to like this for the rest of my life or is there any thing

> > > > >  

> > > > > good that can happen to me sir. my parents are also frustrated and

> > > > >  

> > > > > nobody really likes me or care about me except my mother .and iam

jobless though i passed B.Tech (Electricals) with first class, i am attending

and doing interviews succesfully but iam not getting any job , Is  software

professional suits my carrer or electrical field

> > > > >  

> > > > >

> > > > >  

> > > > > Please

> > > > >  

> > > > > help me out  any remedies

> > > > >  

> > > > > or any gemstones which i have wear or any puja to be performed .

> > > > >  

> > > > >

> > > > >  

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > >    uma maheshwar rao.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ICC World Twenty20 England & #39;09 exclusively on ! CRICKET

http://cricket.

> > > > >

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Sir,

The concept of nadi as we understand is  importance given to star lord.Also each

with 30 deg is subdiveide 4 quarter and each qurter at 3.20 degrees get amsa

lord.

As a procedural device for rectification(of nadi) he conceieved astronomical

sunrise different from lahiri.yet the fact in nadi is it changes for every 30

minitus.so accuaracy of data based on sun rise and sun set was the concept of

ancients and Rao Ji has further eloberated.Thnx for info

vrkrishnan

 

--- On Sat, 6/20/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

 

 

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

Re: WAR?!??

 

Saturday, June 20, 2009, 11:52 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In his book on nadi rectification, Raoji recommends using the astronomical

sunrise as he calls it, using the center of sun as the rising moment. He gave

tables to calculate those as well. It is very complete and self-sufficient book.

 

RR

 

, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Rao Ji has very effectivley has put 3 mts(as later) and also we know sun rise

itself varies based on longitude and latitude.

> Almanac/panchang are also having different calculations as far as sun rise is

concerned

> This particular we consider for a moment as true as we keep the dorr open for

others to think

> vrkrishnan

> --- On Fri, 6/19/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> Re: WAR?!??

>

> Friday, June 19, 2009, 11:57 PM

>

>

Dear Dadabhai,

>

> The only WISDOM that matters really is not that which is given, gifted or

received (5) but that which is realized personally (1)!

>

> That point where Sun would have been on your birth moment if you were born at

sunrise -- all this uhapoha would have been simply academic!

>

> Rao ji mentioned that at the precise moment of sunrise -- nothing gets born

and the birthing onlym starts 3 minutes later!

>

> True or False?

>

> , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > I think it is my elated thought that might have linked free will with 5th

house or poorva.I mean 5th as a hous eof wisdom/intution emnating from past

karma is obscure(kind of understanding to me).where as 9th and 10th have

provisions for coming out from Destiny/Bhagya concept and act in free will

> > vrkrishnan

> >

> > --- On Fri, 6/19/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > WAR?!??

> >

> > Friday, June 19, 2009, 11:00 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Dada,

> >

> > Free-will is neither obscure nor jingoism! Over the many years in this very

forum I have challenged many and many to my glee and thankfulness have listened!

To those who felt my postings were meaningless and controversial and not quite

in line with what they felt should be the direction and agenda of this forum or

jyotish generally, I merely said: If what I write makes not sense or incenses

you -- close your eyes and move on! The three MONKEYS! See no Evil, Hear no

Evil, Speak no Evil! The DROLL threesome!

> >

> > Not all three SENSES need to be shut down at the same time! What I have done

is simply to try and defocus on one or the other portal at a given time of

practice!

> >

> > Imagine that you are a pilot driving a Jet-Plane that carries so many

hundreds of passangers that depend on YOU!

> >

> > As you -- MR. PILOT and GOD in a sense attempt to carry them all to their

destiny, you rely on staying focussed on all those gauges and meters and

video-screens all of which are transducers and not direct experience! Something

that you take for granted if you were taking your dog out for a walk while it

relieves itself! While more direct experiences are involved -- you are still

rely on your transducers? Your Sensory organs and their capabilities!

> >

> > The difference probably lies in how many you could potentially hurt as

opposed to how many the jet pilot potentially can!

> >

> > In other words, it again becomes a NUMBERS game!

> >

> > How many did we lose in the end! How about the barely out of teenage, 20-25

year old ones that we globally send to brutal WARS from which many return in a

casket just a bad nightmare for their parents for LIFE -- to be saluted and

permanently lost for others who care only for the moment? Despite the fanfare

and pomp -- the war continues and kids continue to die for a cause that is not

theirs! They were just looking for a summer job or something better than the

alternative possibilities! :-(

> >

> > , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini Dada,

> > > " There is a missing link between Destiny and Free-will though! " in terms of

jyotish jingoism is the strength of 5th house known as also Poorva

> > > Forgetting these concepts as obscure " Free Will " is a real and most

powerful weapon(Almighty give) one need that kind of push and initiative to keep

it as a " stand bye " and keep invoking and acting on freewill.This promotes 10th

house ardha bahva.The root in 9th has to grow and so use this weapon always

saves everu human being but with some disgretion ofcourse.

> > > vrkrishnan

> > >

> > >

> > > --- On Fri, 6/19/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > > Re: Namaskar all guruji's!!!! !

> > >

> > > Friday, June 19, 2009, 7:24 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Krishnan Dada,

> > >

> > > Unfortunately, people misunderstand the 'khudi/self/ freewill' part

entirely and begin to see it as a negation of destiny. Destiny and free-will are

not mutually antagonistic or an 'either-or' situation. Brings us back to the

allegory that Ramakrishna Thakoor told involving the Aries tied to the 8th house

through the Rope called Saturn! A beautiful allegory that knowingly or

unknowingly, the Great Saint delivered that fits the Kalpurusha's kundali and

its esoteric interpretation, obviously!

> > >

> > > There is a missing link between Destiny and Free-will though!

> > >

> > > Neither of these two are absolute, static or permanent but over lifetimes

or even within one lifetime can change!

> > >

> > > The missing link, unfortunately is more readily inserted into the picture

by egotism which arrogantly is displayed by the so called " Self-made " individual

who thinks that he alone is the maker of destiny! On the other end of the

spectrum lives the Bhakta that has unshakeable FAITH that God alone (HE) makes

destinies.

> > >

> > > Somewhere between the " pole " and the 'goat' lies on the ROPE, that

something called Divination -- Jyotish in the current context of our

conversation! Through Jyotish there arises the possibility of the awareness as

to the extent of the rope and the ways and means of dissolution of the rope.

> > >

> > > It is not about egotism, if one is wise, but cognition really! For most

human beings that would mean living the full experience as a human being who is

more into action and not so much into results! Efforts please the soul, letting

outcomes or anticipations thereof cloud our mind (moon) leads to the fugue of

Maya that keeps the soul remote and unseen...

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > wah Dada.

> > > > Very good citation from Shri Iqbal,the soul that continues to inspires

every one.Even if we repeat these two lines thrice a day it will be a good magic

potion(even more than the misused viagara) for fun

> > > > with regards

> > > > vrkrishnan

> > > > --- On Thu, 6/18/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > > > Re: Namaskar all guruji's!!!! !

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, June 18, 2009, 10:50 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I think it was Iqbaal who wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Khudi ko kar buland itna, ke har takdeer se pehlay

> > > > Khuda bande se khud puche, bata teri raza kiya hai

> > > >

> > > > Something to look forward to and work towards, by everyone!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@

...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr Rao,

> > > > > Just 24 and trying to explore world and so much of negative assessment

about yourself.You have exalted venus in 4th with mars and so you prove your

comptence and tell you can be a very good designer.

> > > > > Also jupiter in navamasa lagna a rare gift for blessed one and sets

right malefic  aspect of saturn in 5th and rahu in 9th.

> > > > > Moon in 7th in D/9 and with rahu in 5th need remedial measures.As you

like mother take her good wishes always .worship Goddess Sharaada regulalrly.

> > > > > Prepare your passport and visa and try for jobs in west Asia and in

North in India.You will have good chances and good career ahead.

> > > > > You are handsome,likes to be preoccupied and busy.The question of

failures and no body likes and all that is to reduce your personality. Improve

your gaiety and look to move  for further studies and job in abroad.

> > > > > Prepare for GRE/GATE/TOFEL to climb up the aldder.A first class and

his future never never be bad.Overcome your ill feelings by prayers

> > > > > vrkrishnan

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Thu, 6/18/09, Uma Maheshwar rao Dama <umamaheshwarrao_ dama@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Uma Maheshwar rao Dama <umamaheshwarrao_ dama@>

> > > > > Re: Re: Namaskar all guruji's!!!! !

> > > > >

> > > > > Thursday, June 18, 2009, 12:20 PM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ---

> > > > >

> > > > >  

> > > > > Dear All,

> > > > >  

> > > > >

> > > > >  

> > > > > This is Uma maheshwar rao from Hyderabad. MY DOB is 26-02-1985 at

2:05AM in place of birth : Hyderabad.

> > > > >  

> > > > >

> > > > >  

> > > > >    

> > > > > I want to know whether i will be successful in life , because i have

> > > > >    failed many times in lot of things in my life and i am frustrated .

> > > > >  

> > > > > till now if i see back i have not achieved anything substantial. is my

> > > > >  

> > > > > life going to like this for the rest of my life or is there any thing

> > > > >  

> > > > > good that can happen to me sir. my parents are also frustrated and

> > > > >  

> > > > > nobody really likes me or care about me except my mother .and iam

jobless though i passed B.Tech (Electricals) with first class, i am attending

and doing interviews succesfully but iam not getting any job , Is  software

professional suits my carrer or electrical field

> > > > >  

> > > > >

> > > > >  

> > > > > Please

> > > > >  

> > > > > help me out  any remedies

> > > > >  

> > > > > or any gemstones which i have wear or any puja to be performed .

> > > > >  

> > > > >

> > > > >  

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > >    uma maheshwar rao.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ICC World Twenty20 England & #39;09 exclusively on ! CRICKET

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> > > > >

> > > > >

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