How and Why do we make decisions? Astrological Answers! 21/6

June 21, 2009

Rajiv Jhanna

u were spamming every group with reading requests for months and litertally

bugged everyone NOW u come up with kind of rubbish?

ithe fundamental question is FIRST STUDY THE SUBJECT, ITS RULES, APPLICATIONS

TEST AS MANY CASES AND THEN think of commenting on it any subject for that

matter

a horoscope has several revealing facets, factors

the strength of the chart must be first be analysed

its current running period, its strenght,

the current planetary transits

any major combinations for good or bad

and above all the family and his own karmaic debts if too strong can't deliver

the expected results

last said point can be seen from a much deeper level say D60

if even a shuba graha period is running if it is placed in a Krora or evil

shastiamsa it can't deliver the said shubha phala

but if evil periods run and is in Krura shashtiamsas it can be quite compounded

and desha, kaala, paristhi matters too

when Kingdoms have given to diff forms of govt such substititions is needed

the essence of it is a major employer

say in India railways is a v large organisation the biggest employer as of now

it is Givt controled what if it is privatised?

AIR INDIA is facing such a prospect by a distress sale if a govt employee with

no effort of his becomes a privates ector employee it is the size of the

employer herthat matters.

to work, study, work abroad there must be supporting times in the chart just not

combinations alone.

similarly living abroead can be a yoga for some, but for many it is a EXILE yoga

that is no family, friends, family worse off in w. asia , africa other places

levels of it differs?

so u may live and earn in a hostile environment.

can anyone resist Karma even the Avataras of so many divine forms have show that

in human form they have suffered normal human experiences but never lost control

of values, self respect.

Did not the Pandavas who had Lord Krishna in their side not loose not once but

twice in dice gambling even after the Lord did intervene 1st time and saved

Draupadi's honor in the royal place where she was almost disrobed [emotionally]

in public...

still why did they take the 2nd 2nd invitation it is the role of this life's

Karma

BUDHI KARMA ANUSARE

that is Buddhi will follow the instinctgs of ones Karma

a hororscope reveals both the +ve and -ve sides its occurance timing and allows

us some free weill to reduce the bad ones, improve our Atma or souls balance

sheet in this life on wards to become better. by burning off the -ve aspects and

also not adding new -ve Karma into it which we all continue to do

it bride a cop a tax official or push someone in traffic as we r in a hurry and

want to reach home. work faster than one before u, [he/she may be too in such a

situation if u care to ask]

fix a appointment with a hospital or a govt official ahead of others in the

quee/

even temple darshans, educational seats etc

if these do happen only in the way they shuld in order of application than other

means all else will be fine

but each ones individual karma will make one choose a particular path.

it is better to be careful and remain in the right side of the law, and karma

all good deeds with good intention will pay in the long run

but good deds by accident, mistake dont count

but bad ddeeds by even mistake count a sin so choice is v hard it is like

driving down a ghat road with no protection on the sides and no metaling on it

devil or deep ravines....

Best wishes

Prashant

________________________________

GoldBerg Financial Trading Systems <goldberg.investments

Sunday, June 21, 2009 12:20:07 PM

How and Why do we make decisions? Astrological Answers!

Dear Friends,

Please check the following examples are answer if you can.

1. A person is a job less. His natal chart says, he should be in

government job, so, why isn't he there? If his Planets and Stars are not

supportive in MNC job, why is he searching for the same? If his

Planets/Stars are favourable, how come he has not applied for government

job?

2. Natal Chart says, Person has good education, why is he not looking

forward to going to Harvard or IIM, why is he settling for lower levels of

education?

3. Natal Chart says, Person would have beautiful wife, a famous

personality, but it would end in divorce. Should he Marry or rather Will he

Marry if known the given outcome?

4. Natal Chart says, Person would go to foreign lands, he would be very

rich there and it would be his only source of income, but in the process, he

would loose all his family, friends, and relatives, in homeland. Should he

go to foreign lands, or rather would he go, if known the outcome?

5. Natal chart says, person will loose wealth in Speculation and wrong

investments, but we see he is still there everyday? Why would he be there if

it is bad for him? Why can't he resist or Can he resist?

These are just few examples, but the question remains the same.who is in

control here, Natal Chart - Planets - or Human Decision. Who chooses, who

decides - Stars or Man, and how is this decision made?

Can there be a discussion on this? (Again.Is this question need to be

answered.Astrologic ally or will it go untouched or will some strong mind

take charge and look into it????)

Thanks and regards,

Rajiv Khanna

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --

There's an old parable that goes as follows:

Every morning in Africa a Gazelle wakes up, It knows it better run faster

than the faster Lion or it will be killed. Every morning a Lion wakes up. It

Knows it better run faster than the slowest Gazelle or it will starve to

death.

It doesn't matter whether you are a Lion or a Gazelle : WHEN THE SUN COMES

UP, YOU BETTER BE RUNNING.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -

June 21, 2009

pujay shri prashant ji,

yr comments are true - person can study this subject all his life but remains

like

a student as it is very deep subject [astrology] plus lot of branches as well

with regards to u pdk

--- On Sun, 21/6/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

Re: How and Why do we make decisions? Astrological Answers! 21/6

Sunday, 21 June, 2009, 1:52 PM

Rajiv Jhanna

u were spamming every group with reading requests for months and litertally

bugged everyone NOW u come up with kind of rubbish?

ithe fundamental question is FIRST STUDY THE SUBJECT, ITS RULES, APPLICATIONS

TEST AS MANY CASES AND THEN think of commenting on it any subject for that

matter

a horoscope has several revealing facets, factors

the strength of the chart must be first be analysed

its current running period, its strenght,

the current planetary transits

any major combinations for good or bad

and above all the family and his own karmaic debts if too strong can't deliver

the expected results

last said point can be seen from a much deeper level say D60

if even a shuba graha period is running if it is placed in a Krora or evil

shastiamsa it can't deliver the said shubha phala

but if evil periods run and is in Krura shashtiamsas it can be quite compounded

and desha, kaala, paristhi matters too

when Kingdoms have given to diff forms of govt such substititions is needed

the essence of it is a major employer

say in India railways is a v large organisation the biggest employer as of now

it is Givt controled what if it is privatised?

AIR INDIA is facing such a prospect by a distress sale if a govt employee with

no effort of his becomes a privates ector employee it is the size of the

employer herthat matters.

to work, study, work abroad there must be supporting times in the chart just not

combinations alone.

similarly living abroead can be a yoga for some, but for many it is a EXILE yoga

that is no family, friends, family worse off in w. asia , africa other places

levels of it differs?

so u may live and earn in a hostile environment.

can anyone resist Karma even the Avataras of so many divine forms have show that

in human form they have suffered normal human experiences but never lost control

of values, self respect.

Did not the Pandavas who had Lord Krishna in their side not loose not once but

twice in dice gambling even after the Lord did intervene 1st time and saved

Draupadi's honor in the royal place where she was almost disrobed [emotionally]

in public...

still why did they take the 2nd 2nd invitation it is the role of this life's

Karma

BUDHI KARMA ANUSARE

that is Buddhi will follow the instinctgs of ones Karma

a hororscope reveals both the +ve and -ve sides its occurance timing and allows

us some free weill to reduce the bad ones, improve our Atma or souls balance

sheet in this life on wards to become better. by burning off the -ve aspects and

also not adding new -ve Karma into it which we all continue to do

it bride a cop a tax official or push someone in traffic as we r in a hurry and

want to reach home. work faster than one before u, [he/she may be too in such a

situation if u care to ask]

fix a appointment with a hospital or a govt official ahead of others in the

quee/

even temple darshans, educational seats etc

if these do happen only in the way they shuld in order of application than other

means all else will be fine

but each ones individual karma will make one choose a particular path.

it is better to be careful and remain in the right side of the law, and karma

all good deeds with good intention will pay in the long run

but good deds by accident, mistake dont count

but bad ddeeds by even mistake count a sin so choice is v hard it is like

driving down a ghat road with no protection on the sides and no metaling on it

devil or deep ravines....

Best wishes

Prashant

____________ _________ _________ __

GoldBerg Financial Trading Systems <goldberg.investment s. in>

Sunday, June 21, 2009 12:20:07 PM

How and Why do we make decisions? Astrological Answers!

Dear Friends,

Please check the following examples are answer if you can.

1. A person is a job less. His natal chart says, he should be in

government job, so, why isn't he there? If his Planets and Stars are not

supportive in MNC job, why is he searching for the same? If his

Planets/Stars are favourable, how come he has not applied for government

job?

2. Natal Chart says, Person has good education, why is he not looking

forward to going to Harvard or IIM, why is he settling for lower levels of

education?

3. Natal Chart says, Person would have beautiful wife, a famous

personality, but it would end in divorce. Should he Marry or rather Will he

Marry if known the given outcome?

4. Natal Chart says, Person would go to foreign lands, he would be very

rich there and it would be his only source of income, but in the process, he

would loose all his family, friends, and relatives, in homeland. Should he

go to foreign lands, or rather would he go, if known the outcome?

5. Natal chart says, person will loose wealth in Speculation and wrong

investments, but we see he is still there everyday? Why would he be there if

it is bad for him? Why can't he resist or Can he resist?

These are just few examples, but the question remains the same.who is in

control here, Natal Chart - Planets - or Human Decision. Who chooses, who

decides - Stars or Man, and how is this decision made?

Can there be a discussion on this? (Again.Is this question need to be

answered.Astrologic ally or will it go untouched or will some strong mind

take charge and look into it????)

Thanks and regards,

Rajiv Khanna

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --

There's an old parable that goes as follows:

Every morning in Africa a Gazelle wakes up, It knows it better run faster

than the faster Lion or it will be killed. Every morning a Lion wakes up. It

Knows it better run faster than the slowest Gazelle or it will starve to

death.

It doesn't matter whether you are a Lion or a Gazelle : WHEN THE SUN COMES

UP, YOU BETTER BE RUNNING.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -

June 21, 2009

Dear Rajiv jhanna

The ans to your questions are explained by Lord Shri Krishna very nicely and in

a simple but deeper way in Shreemad Bhagavat Geetha.

Jyotish only works as a beckon , a light to illuminate what is around you and

where you are heading. It is upto to you to understand yourself and decide how

the information should be used.

Read Bhagavath Geetha & you shall find the answer and peace with your self.

Believe me, If you understand Bhagavat Geetha correctly, You will never raise

these questions again and you will look at life / world and most importantly at

yourself in a new light.

I would suggest " Tattvavivecani " by Shri Jayadayal Goyandaka published by geetha

press Ghorakpur for the correct Sanskrit to English translation of Sanskrit and

meaning.

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

wrote:

>

> Rajiv Jhanna

>

> u were spamming every group with reading requests for months and litertally

bugged everyone NOW u come up with kind of rubbish?

>

> ithe fundamental question is FIRST STUDY THE SUBJECT, ITS RULES, APPLICATIONS

TEST AS MANY CASES AND THEN think of commenting on it any subject for that

matter

>

> a horoscope has several revealing facets, factors

> the strength of the chart must be first be analysed

> its current running period, its strenght,

> the current planetary transits

> any major combinations for good or bad

> and above all the family and his own karmaic debts if too strong can't deliver

the expected results

>

> last said point can be seen from a much deeper level say D60

> if even a shuba graha period is running if it is placed in a Krora or evil

shastiamsa it can't deliver the said shubha phala

> but if evil periods run and is in Krura shashtiamsas it can be quite

compounded

>

> and desha, kaala, paristhi matters too

>

> when Kingdoms have given to diff forms of govt such substititions is needed

>

> the essence of it is a major employer

>

> say in India railways is a v large organisation the biggest employer as of now

it is Givt controled what if it is privatised?

>

> AIR INDIA is facing such a prospect by a distress sale if a govt employee with

no effort of his becomes a privates ector employee it is the size of the

employer herthat matters.

>

> to work, study, work abroad there must be supporting times in the chart just

not combinations alone.

>

> similarly living abroead can be a yoga for some, but for many it is a EXILE

yoga that is no family, friends, family worse off in w. asia , africa other

places levels of it differs?

>

> so u may live and earn in a hostile environment.

>

> can anyone resist Karma even the Avataras of so many divine forms have show

that in human form they have suffered normal human experiences but never lost

control of values, self respect.

>

> Did not the Pandavas who had Lord Krishna in their side not loose not once but

twice in dice gambling even after the Lord did intervene 1st time and saved

Draupadi's honor in the royal place where she was almost disrobed [emotionally]

in public...

>

> still why did they take the 2nd 2nd invitation it is the role of this life's

Karma

>

> BUDHI KARMA ANUSARE

> that is Buddhi will follow the instinctgs of ones Karma

>

> a hororscope reveals both the +ve and -ve sides its occurance timing and

allows us some free weill to reduce the bad ones, improve our Atma or souls

balance sheet in this life on wards to become better. by burning off the -ve

aspects and also not adding new -ve Karma into it which we all continue to do

>

> it bride a cop a tax official or push someone in traffic as we r in a hurry

and want to reach home. work faster than one before u, [he/she may be too in

such a situation if u care to ask]

> fix a appointment with a hospital or a govt official ahead of others in the

quee/

>

> even temple darshans, educational seats etc

>

> if these do happen only in the way they shuld in order of application than

other means all else will be fine

>

> but each ones individual karma will make one choose a particular path.

> it is better to be careful and remain in the right side of the law, and karma

> all good deeds with good intention will pay in the long run

>

> but good deds by accident, mistake dont count

> but bad ddeeds by even mistake count a sin so choice is v hard it is like

driving down a ghat road with no protection on the sides and no metaling on it

>

> devil or deep ravines....

>

> Best wishes

>

> Prashant

>

________________________________

> GoldBerg Financial Trading Systems <goldberg.investments

>

> Sunday, June 21, 2009 12:20:07 PM

> How and Why do we make decisions? Astrological Answers!

>

> Dear Friends,

>

> Please check the following examples are answer if you can.

>

> 1. A person is a job less. His natal chart says, he should be in

> government job, so, why isn't he there? If his Planets and Stars are not

> supportive in MNC job, why is he searching for the same? If his

> Planets/Stars are favourable, how come he has not applied for government

> job?

> 2. Natal Chart says, Person has good education, why is he not looking

> forward to going to Harvard or IIM, why is he settling for lower levels of

> education?

> 3. Natal Chart says, Person would have beautiful wife, a famous

> personality, but it would end in divorce. Should he Marry or rather Will he

> Marry if known the given outcome?

> 4. Natal Chart says, Person would go to foreign lands, he would be very

> rich there and it would be his only source of income, but in the process, he

> would loose all his family, friends, and relatives, in homeland. Should he

> go to foreign lands, or rather would he go, if known the outcome?

> 5. Natal chart says, person will loose wealth in Speculation and wrong

> investments, but we see he is still there everyday? Why would he be there if

> it is bad for him? Why can't he resist or Can he resist?

>

> These are just few examples, but the question remains the same.who is in

> control here, Natal Chart - Planets - or Human Decision. Who chooses, who

> decides - Stars or Man, and how is this decision made?

>

> Can there be a discussion on this? (Again.Is this question need to be

> answered.Astrologic ally or will it go untouched or will some strong mind

> take charge and look into it????)

>

> Thanks and regards,

>

> Rajiv Khanna

>

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --

>

> There's an old parable that goes as follows:

>

> Every morning in Africa a Gazelle wakes up, It knows it better run faster

> than the faster Lion or it will be killed. Every morning a Lion wakes up. It

> Knows it better run faster than the slowest Gazelle or it will starve to

> death.

>

> It doesn't matter whether you are a Lion or a Gazelle : WHEN THE SUN COMES

> UP, YOU BETTER BE RUNNING.

>

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -

>

June 22, 2009

Dear Prashant ji, Manoj ji and Suresh ji,

Thanks for carrying this discussion forward.

PS: - Prashant ji, You must have mistaken me for some another person who

have spammed for his queries. I have been a mute reader of this group

and it was my first query. Neverthless, ignoring this, lets take

discussion forwad.

I have been researching this subject on decision making from last 2

years and it has now become a paramount thought process.

Prashant ji, you have focussed on the study of astrology and the

individual path chosen...the karma. My focus is on how you chose the

Path?

You have used the example of Pandava's, Lord Krishna and the Dice

Gamble. I use this example often in my trainings. As you mentioned,

Pandava's were not able to resist the game even when Lord Krishna

intervened. Pandava's lost everything yet they went on with the game. My

question remains the same - Why were they not able to RESIST? Why did

they choose to Play Even when Lord Krishna tried to stop? Pandava's

behaved like mesmerised and out of control (from their mind) and went on

with the decision. It is also known that Shakuni specifically chose that

period for the game? Was he aware that this period would be the one when

Pandava's will not take decision of their favour?

You nicely mentioned 'BUDHI KARMA ANUSARE - that is Buddhi will follow

the instinctgs of ones Karma'.

I believe it is the other way round, Karam as per Buddhi. Action as per

your Thoughts.

Everyday, we have hundreds and thousands of thoughts in our mind, but

when and on which thoughts do we take action? Is it the thoughts of

similar nature who have clubbed and grown strong or is it the single

thought but congruent with your inbuilt talents and capabilities which

suddenly combine with all the relevant forces and push you to take

action?

Sh B. V. Raman in his book, " The Influence of Planets on Human Affairs "

clearly explains the forces of Planets, their movements and the effect

on other bodies(including us).

Quantum physics say we all are energy and anything and everything is

interconnected.

So, when there is a particular combination of Planets/Stars, Do they

produce some thoughts in us which push us to take a particular action or

Is it this way that when this particular combination of Planets/Stars

occur, at that time, these thoughts will come in human mind and he

may/will/can take a particular action?

Has anyone given thought...From Where do thoughts come in our mind? Why

do they appear? Some are repeated thoughts, some are like traffic on

road - come and go, some stay around and change us, some come time and

again but we ignore.

Sh B.V.Raman in one of his books, very simply wrote, " Fools Obey the

Planets, Wise men control them. "

Is Astrology taken on a wrong side today? Was it meant to be a guide to

make aware of upcoming forces so that effective decisions be taken or

Has it been taken as " Dear Client, This will Happen - You can't do

anything! "

How come meek Shakuni was able to Overpower and Destroy 5 Pandava's who

were, and proved, much stronger and mighty than 100 Kaurava's? Was it

Shakuni's Talent and Pandava's lesser knowledge of game, Was it

planetary combination of Pandava's/Kaurava's or Planetary combination

and Inability to take right decision at that time?

So, is it " Dear Client, This will Happen - You can't do anything! " or is

it " Dear Client, Be Aware This thing is Coming and You can/Will Take

this Decision - Check and Control Yourself! "

Thanks for your valuable Time.

Rajiv Khanna

, " sureshbabuag "

<sureshbabuag wrote:

>

> Dear Rajiv jhanna

>

> The ans to your questions are explained by Lord Shri Krishna very

nicely and in a simple but deeper way in Shreemad Bhagavat Geetha.

>

> Jyotish only works as a beckon , a light to illuminate what is around

you and where you are heading. It is upto to you to understand yourself

and decide how the information should be used.

>

> Read Bhagavath Geetha & you shall find the answer and peace with your

self.

>

> Believe me, If you understand Bhagavat Geetha correctly, You will

never raise these questions again and you will look at life / world and

most importantly at yourself in a new light.

>

> I would suggest " Tattvavivecani " by Shri Jayadayal Goyandaka published

by geetha press Ghorakpur for the correct Sanskrit to English

translation of Sanskrit and meaning.

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

, Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar@

wrote:

> >

> > Rajiv Jhanna

> >

> > u were spamming every group with reading requests for months and

litertally bugged everyone NOW u come up with kind of rubbish?

> >

> > ithe fundamental question is FIRST STUDY THE SUBJECT, ITS RULES,

APPLICATIONS TEST AS MANY CASES AND THEN think of commenting on it any

subject for that matter

> >

> > a horoscope has several revealing facets, factors

> > the strength of the chart must be first be analysed

> > its current running period, its strenght,

> > the current planetary transits

> > any major combinations for good or bad

> > and above all the family and his own karmaic debts if too strong

can't deliver the expected results

> >

> > last said point can be seen from a much deeper level say D60

> > if even a shuba graha period is running if it is placed in a Krora

or evil shastiamsa it can't deliver the said shubha phala

> > but if evil periods run and is in Krura shashtiamsas it can be quite

compounded

> >

> > and desha, kaala, paristhi matters too

> >

> > when Kingdoms have given to diff forms of govt such substititions is

needed

> >

> > the essence of it is a major employer

> >

> > say in India railways is a v large organisation the biggest employer

as of now it is Givt controled what if it is privatised?

> >

> > AIR INDIA is facing such a prospect by a distress sale if a govt

employee with no effort of his becomes a privates ector employee it is

the size of the employer herthat matters.

> >

> > to work, study, work abroad there must be supporting times in the

chart just not combinations alone.

> >

> > similarly living abroead can be a yoga for some, but for many it is

a EXILE yoga that is no family, friends, family worse off in w. asia ,

africa other places levels of it differs?

> >

> > so u may live and earn in a hostile environment.

> >

> > can anyone resist Karma even the Avataras of so many divine forms

have show that in human form they have suffered normal human experiences

but never lost control of values, self respect.

> >

> > Did not the Pandavas who had Lord Krishna in their side not loose

not once but twice in dice gambling even after the Lord did intervene

1st time and saved Draupadi's honor in the royal place where she was

almost disrobed [emotionally] in public...

> >

> > still why did they take the 2nd 2nd invitation it is the role of

this life's Karma

> >

> > BUDHI KARMA ANUSARE

> > that is Buddhi will follow the instinctgs of ones Karma

> >

> > a hororscope reveals both the +ve and -ve sides its occurance timing

and allows us some free weill to reduce the bad ones, improve our Atma

or souls balance sheet in this life on wards to become better. by

burning off the -ve aspects and also not adding new -ve Karma into it

which we all continue to do

> >

> > it bride a cop a tax official or push someone in traffic as we r in

a hurry and want to reach home. work faster than one before u, [he/she

may be too in such a situation if u care to ask]

> > fix a appointment with a hospital or a govt official ahead of others

in the quee/

> >

> > even temple darshans, educational seats etc

> >

> > if these do happen only in the way they shuld in order of

application than other means all else will be fine

> >

> > but each ones individual karma will make one choose a particular

path.

> > it is better to be careful and remain in the right side of the law,

and karma

> > all good deeds with good intention will pay in the long run

> >

> > but good deds by accident, mistake dont count

> > but bad ddeeds by even mistake count a sin so choice is v hard it is

like driving down a ghat road with no protection on the sides and no

metaling on it

> >

> > devil or deep ravines....

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > Prashant

> >

> > ________________________________

> > GoldBerg Financial Trading Systems goldberg.investments@

> >

> > Sunday, June 21, 2009 12:20:07 PM

> > How and Why do we make decisions? Astrological

Answers!

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> >

> > Please check the following examples are answer if you can.

> >

> > 1. A person is a job less. His natal chart says, he should be in

> > government job, so, why isn't he there? If his Planets and Stars are

not

> > supportive in MNC job, why is he searching for the same? If his

> > Planets/Stars are favourable, how come he has not applied for

government

> > job?

> > 2. Natal Chart says, Person has good education, why is he not

looking

> > forward to going to Harvard or IIM, why is he settling for lower

levels of

> > education?

> > 3. Natal Chart says, Person would have beautiful wife, a famous

> > personality, but it would end in divorce. Should he Marry or rather

Will he

> > Marry if known the given outcome?

> > 4. Natal Chart says, Person would go to foreign lands, he would be

very

> > rich there and it would be his only source of income, but in the

process, he

> > would loose all his family, friends, and relatives, in homeland.

Should he

> > go to foreign lands, or rather would he go, if known the outcome?

> > 5. Natal chart says, person will loose wealth in Speculation and

wrong

> > investments, but we see he is still there everyday? Why would he be

there if

> > it is bad for him? Why can't he resist or Can he resist?

> >

> > These are just few examples, but the question remains the same.who

is in

> > control here, Natal Chart - Planets - or Human Decision. Who

chooses, who

> > decides - Stars or Man, and how is this decision made?

> >

> > Can there be a discussion on this? (Again.Is this question need to

be

> > answered.Astrologic ally or will it go untouched or will some strong

mind

> > take charge and look into it????)

> >

> > Thanks and regards,

> >

> > Rajiv Khanna

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --

> >

> > There's an old parable that goes as follows:

> >

> > Every morning in Africa a Gazelle wakes up, It knows it better run

faster

> > than the faster Lion or it will be killed. Every morning a Lion

wakes up. It

> > Knows it better run faster than the slowest Gazelle or it will

starve to

> > death.

> >

> > It doesn't matter whether you are a Lion or a Gazelle : WHEN THE SUN

COMES

> > UP, YOU BETTER BE RUNNING.

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> >

June 22, 2009

Dear friend,

Why do we take decisions ?

As we have to choose only few out of the

multiple available options and the best option as far as we can

to optimise our rate of success and satisfaction in life.

How we make decisions ?

We take decisions guided by

our emotions most of the time.

Few people are guided by the traditions/ belief/faith.

Few people are guided by the intelligence without applying the conscience.

Very few people are guided by their conscience and intelligence combined

together are the Great Human Beings of our time.

An impartial self assesment and

as well as of the sorrounding around us

and how they would be going to change

with change of time- is our

key to success or failture.

With regards and best wishes,

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

(Consultancy out of group is not free)

09811971190

, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

wrote:

>

> Rajiv Jhanna

>

> u were spamming every group with reading requests for months and litertally

bugged everyone NOW u come up with kind of rubbish?

>

> ithe fundamental question is FIRST STUDY THE SUBJECT, ITS RULES, APPLICATIONS

TEST AS MANY CASES AND THEN think of commenting on it any subject for that

matter

>

> a horoscope has several revealing facets, factors

> the strength of the chart must be first be analysed

> its current running period, its strenght,

> the current planetary transits

> any major combinations for good or bad

> and above all the family and his own karmaic debts if too strong can't deliver

the expected results

>

> last said point can be seen from a much deeper level say D60

> if even a shuba graha period is running if it is placed in a Krora or evil

shastiamsa it can't deliver the said shubha phala

> but if evil periods run and is in Krura shashtiamsas it can be quite

compounded

>

> and desha, kaala, paristhi matters too

>

> when Kingdoms have given to diff forms of govt such substititions is needed

>

> the essence of it is a major employer

>

> say in India railways is a v large organisation the biggest employer as of now

it is Givt controled what if it is privatised?

>

> AIR INDIA is facing such a prospect by a distress sale if a govt employee with

no effort of his becomes a privates ector employee it is the size of the

employer herthat matters.

>

> to work, study, work abroad there must be supporting times in the chart just

not combinations alone.

>

> similarly living abroead can be a yoga for some, but for many it is a EXILE

yoga that is no family, friends, family worse off in w. asia , africa other

places levels of it differs?

>

> so u may live and earn in a hostile environment.

>

> can anyone resist Karma even the Avataras of so many divine forms have show

that in human form they have suffered normal human experiences but never lost

control of values, self respect.

>

> Did not the Pandavas who had Lord Krishna in their side not loose not once but

twice in dice gambling even after the Lord did intervene 1st time and saved

Draupadi's honor in the royal place where she was almost disrobed [emotionally]

in public...

>

> still why did they take the 2nd 2nd invitation it is the role of this life's

Karma

>

> BUDHI KARMA ANUSARE

> that is Buddhi will follow the instinctgs of ones Karma

>

> a hororscope reveals both the +ve and -ve sides its occurance timing and

allows us some free weill to reduce the bad ones, improve our Atma or souls

balance sheet in this life on wards to become better. by burning off the -ve

aspects and also not adding new -ve Karma into it which we all continue to do

>

> it bride a cop a tax official or push someone in traffic as we r in a hurry

and want to reach home. work faster than one before u, [he/she may be too in

such a situation if u care to ask]

> fix a appointment with a hospital or a govt official ahead of others in the

quee/

>

> even temple darshans, educational seats etc

>

> if these do happen only in the way they shuld in order of application than

other means all else will be fine

>

> but each ones individual karma will make one choose a particular path.

> it is better to be careful and remain in the right side of the law, and karma

> all good deeds with good intention will pay in the long run

>

> but good deds by accident, mistake dont count

> but bad ddeeds by even mistake count a sin so choice is v hard it is like

driving down a ghat road with no protection on the sides and no metaling on it

>

> devil or deep ravines....

>

> Best wishes

>

> Prashant

>

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>

> Sunday, June 21, 2009 12:20:07 PM

> How and Why do we make decisions? Astrological Answers!

>

> Dear Friends,

>

> Please check the following examples are answer if you can.

>

> 1. A person is a job less. His natal chart says, he should be in

> government job, so, why isn't he there? If his Planets and Stars are not

> supportive in MNC job, why is he searching for the same? If his

> Planets/Stars are favourable, how come he has not applied for government

> job?

> 2. Natal Chart says, Person has good education, why is he not looking

> forward to going to Harvard or IIM, why is he settling for lower levels of

> education?

> 3. Natal Chart says, Person would have beautiful wife, a famous

> personality, but it would end in divorce. Should he Marry or rather Will he

> Marry if known the given outcome?

> 4. Natal Chart says, Person would go to foreign lands, he would be very

> rich there and it would be his only source of income, but in the process, he

> would loose all his family, friends, and relatives, in homeland. Should he

> go to foreign lands, or rather would he go, if known the outcome?

> 5. Natal chart says, person will loose wealth in Speculation and wrong

> investments, but we see he is still there everyday? Why would he be there if

> it is bad for him? Why can't he resist or Can he resist?

>

> These are just few examples, but the question remains the same.who is in

> control here, Natal Chart - Planets - or Human Decision. Who chooses, who

> decides - Stars or Man, and how is this decision made?

>

> Can there be a discussion on this? (Again.Is this question need to be

> answered.Astrologic ally or will it go untouched or will some strong mind

> take charge and look into it????)

>

> Thanks and regards,

>

> Rajiv Khanna

>

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --

>

> There's an old parable that goes as follows:

>

> Every morning in Africa a Gazelle wakes up, It knows it better run faster

> than the faster Lion or it will be killed. Every morning a Lion wakes up. It

> Knows it better run faster than the slowest Gazelle or it will starve to

> death.

>

> It doesn't matter whether you are a Lion or a Gazelle : WHEN THE SUN COMES

> UP, YOU BETTER BE RUNNING.

>

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -

>

June 22, 2009

rajiv khanna

u have quoted b v raman ji's quotes and they apply to a higher level of ppl

surely not our generation -more materialistic, self centered.

now on ur other points

we choose the path our karma allows us if it is v stron on the +ve side we may

have many choices, but if -ve can be left with little choice inspite of best

advice from anyone

as in case of Pandavas, well if they listnedto Lord Krishna would Mahabharatha

battle itslf been there a Avatara like Krishna had a role in cleaning up his

yuga's dead wood, rotten elements and he needs some of that very force to clean

up the mess.

we also have srimad bhagavatha and bhagavad geetha as sdie wise down [dishes] so

it as its role

and Budhi if allowed to flourish in right environment can help a person grow,

just as juvenile homes help young law breakers come out of such mindsets learn a

few new trade, skills and be better human beings if put in a commoin jail even

the kids can be notorious criminals

this is again our karma driven the opening sloka on a natal horosccope rather

JANAMA PATRI

Janani janma soukhyanam if u understand this u will get ur doubts cleared today

we have horoscopes written without it, or a reverence to Lord ganesha and the

Navagrahas either apart from the opening sloka just quoted

Karma = free will+fate which is fixed 50:50 at best we can make the fate

stronger than free will by being careless, reckless

so is health of a person if u know any dowser u can see that even the healthiest

person will have 50: health according to their charts so by some negligence,

poor life style habits we can maKE it more and more bad in the same chart as the

magnet will move towards more of il health take a test u will know

Best wishes

G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

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