Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Hello Rajiv, True nodes are used in SA Astrology. Best wishes. - rajiv_rajiv2 Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:08 PM which node for rahu/ketu? Hello Professor,which node we should use for rahu/ketu in satva (true/mean)?Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Hello Rajiv, It is only with true node that we can see the stationary process of the nodes. By calculating the mean movement, this feature of the nodal movement is removed. An important contribution of SA is the use of the true nodes for better horoscope interpretation and prediction. You can see the movement of the true note in the graphical representation in the article the Truth about eclipses. http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/2008/08/truth-about-eclipses.html Best wishes, Thor SIHA <vkchoudhry Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 2:52:24 AMRe: which node for rahu/ketu? Hello Rajiv, True nodes are used in SA Astrology. Best wishes. - rajiv_rajiv2 Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:08 PM which node for rahu/ketu? Hello Professor,which node we should use for rahu/ketu in satva (true/mean)?Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Hello Senior members and Friends, There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we should use for rahu/ketu:true/mean " .plz suggest me? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Dear Pankaj Use true mode HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +91 9867214103 http://in./search?query=chandra-adityaastroremedies Send your mails to Chandra-AdityaAstroRemedies To Subscribe http://in.Chandra-AdityaAstroRemedies For Professional Paid Consultancy send your mail/request for charges to haresh1405/hareshgnathani or call +91 9867214103 ________________________________ pankaj_bansal19 <pankaj_bansal19 Monday, 22 June, 2009 12:28:35 PM which node for rahu/ketu? Hello Senior members and Friends, There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we should use for rahu/ketu:true/ mean " .plz suggest me? Thanks Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter http://cricket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 This is how it works Pankaj ji. There are only two possibilities: True or Mean. Some will say True others will recommend mean and your confusion will remain unabated. Let us say you even get some examples from people who recommend one or the other position, the confusion will remain. Best way to solve such confusions and radically remove the 'dhund' is to take a few charts and test out which of the nodal positions make more sense and you will never harbour confusion if you spend the extra time and make a sincere effort. In doing so, you will begin to see nuances of astrological effect as well, assuming that you are a beginner and not well-versed in the intricacies of jyotish analysis. Since the two positions (M vs T) are fairly close, you will be forced to use finer vargas and that experience will be a bonus in the long run. People should apply this general approach for all such questions, including dashas, ayanamshas etc. Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai babu saheb. Much better than 'processed' prepackaged food with preservatives etc ;-) RR , " pankaj_bansal19 " <pankaj_bansal19 wrote: > > Hello Senior members and Friends, > There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we should use for rahu/ketu:true/mean " .plz suggest me? > > Thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 " Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai babu saheb. " lekin mehanat krana hai tho mam nahi kar sakte hai.Aap Karte kya hai.Aap kam tho yehi hai.Phir hamareliye itna madad nahi kar sakte hai Kya goes the repartee.These days it is easy yhrow the towel in the ring.As usherer,based on menu,arrange things indicating the swaad for relishing the nutrients and beverages. vrkrishnan --- On Mon, 6/22/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Re: which node for rahu/ketu? Monday, June 22, 2009, 7:19 PM This is how it works Pankaj ji. There are only two possibilities: True or Mean. Some will say True others will recommend mean and your confusion will remain unabated. Let us say you even get some examples from people who recommend one or the other position, the confusion will remain. Best way to solve such confusions and radically remove the 'dhund' is to take a few charts and test out which of the nodal positions make more sense and you will never harbour confusion if you spend the extra time and make a sincere effort. In doing so, you will begin to see nuances of astrological effect as well, assuming that you are a beginner and not well-versed in the intricacies of jyotish analysis. Since the two positions (M vs T) are fairly close, you will be forced to use finer vargas and that experience will be a bonus in the long run. People should apply this general approach for all such questions, including dashas, ayanamshas etc. Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai babu saheb. Much better than 'processed' prepackaged food with preservatives etc ;-) RR , " pankaj_bansal19 " <pankaj_bansal19@ ....> wrote: > > Hello Senior members and Friends, > There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we should use for rahu/ketu:true/ mean " .plz suggest me? > > Thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Krishnan Dada, In a metaphorical sense it is ma's fault ;-) Bachaa kuch bhi karay or naa karey, ma roti parosaygee! Woh Celestial MA NATURALLY SAAB Jaantee hai and HER plan is more drastic and effective, when followed properly! Hence fasting is very effective as remedies go! But GNAWING HUNGER must be felt! Interestingly, if it is not clearly explained, some nativities begin observing fast by not eating regular food but replacing it with fruits, fruit juices, mithayi prasadam, lassi laced with sugar and end up taking in more CALORIES than what they were asked to give up! And then they complain why their *fasting* is not working ...! RR , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > " Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai babu saheb. " lekin mehanat krana hai tho mam nahi kar sakte hai.Aap Karte kya hai.Aap kam tho yehi hai.Phir hamareliye itna madad nahi kar sakte hai Kya > goes the repartee.These days it is easy yhrow the towel in the ring.As usherer,based on menu,arrange things indicating the swaad for relishing the nutrients and beverages. > vrkrishnan > --- On Mon, 6/22/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan > Re: which node for rahu/ketu? > > Monday, June 22, 2009, 7:19 PM > > This is how it works Pankaj ji. There are only two possibilities: True or Mean. Some will say True others will recommend mean and your confusion will remain unabated. Let us say you even get some examples from people who recommend one or the other position, the confusion will remain. > > Best way to solve such confusions and radically remove the 'dhund' is to take a few charts and test out which of the nodal positions make more sense and you will never harbour confusion if you spend the extra time and make a sincere effort. In doing so, you will begin to see nuances of astrological effect as well, assuming that you are a beginner and not well-versed in the intricacies of jyotish analysis. Since the two positions (M vs T) are fairly close, you will be forced to use finer vargas and that experience will be a bonus in the long run. People should apply this general approach for all such questions, including dashas, ayanamshas etc. Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai babu saheb. Much better than 'processed' prepackaged food with preservatives etc ;-) > > RR > > , " pankaj_bansal19 " <pankaj_bansal19@ ....> wrote: > > > > Hello Senior members and Friends, > > There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we should use for rahu/ketu:true/ mean " .plz suggest me? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Thanks Rohini Sir,for your response.Actually i had a birth data of my freind in which if we take true node,then ketu/rahu in 1st & 7th house but if mean,then ketu rahu in 2nd & 8th position in rasi chart.so plz tell me how can i check it?As i am a beginner in this vast science named'astrology'. Thanks Again ________________________________ Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Tuesday, 23 June, 2009 4:49:37 AM Re: which node for rahu/ketu? This is how it works Pankaj ji. There are only two possibilities: True or Mean. Some will say True others will recommend mean and your confusion will remain unabated. Let us say you even get some examples from people who recommend one or the other position, the confusion will remain. Best way to solve such confusions and radically remove the 'dhund' is to take a few charts and test out which of the nodal positions make more sense and you will never harbour confusion if you spend the extra time and make a sincere effort. In doing so, you will begin to see nuances of astrological effect as well, assuming that you are a beginner and not well-versed in the intricacies of jyotish analysis. Since the two positions (M vs T) are fairly close, you will be forced to use finer vargas and that experience will be a bonus in the long run. People should apply this general approach for all such questions, including dashas, ayanamshas etc. Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai babu saheb. Much better than 'processed' prepackaged food with preservatives etc ;-) RR , " pankaj_bansal19 " <pankaj_bansal19@ ....> wrote: > > Hello Senior members and Friends, > There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we should use for rahu/ketu:true/ mean " .plz suggest me? > > Thanks > __.._,_.___ Messages in this topic (3) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. MARKETPLACE You have 1 New Message: Someone Challenges your IQ!. ________________________________ How Many Triangles? 92.6% of Americans Fail this Question!. ________________________________ Mom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their families, for the world and for each other Change settings via the Web ( ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Un Recent Activity * 56 New Members * 1 New FilesVisit Your Group Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. Ads on Learn more now. Reach customers searching for you. Y! Messenger Want a quick chat? Chat over IM with group members. .. ICC World Twenty20 England & #39;09 exclusively on ! CRICKET http://cricket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 In case of retrograde nodes,mean is always suggested as actual positions has other issues to address vrkrishnan --- On Wed, 6/24/09, pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19 wrote: pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19 Re: Re: which node for rahu/ketu? Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 4:52 AM Thanks Rohini Sir,for your response.Actually i had a birth data of my freind in which if we take true node,then ketu/rahu in 1st & 7th house but if mean,then ketu rahu in 2nd & 8th position in rasi chart.so plz tell me how can i check it?As i am a beginner in this vast science named'astrology' . Thanks Again ____________ _________ _________ __ Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com> Tuesday, 23 June, 2009 4:49:37 AM Re: which node for rahu/ketu? This is how it works Pankaj ji. There are only two possibilities: True or Mean. Some will say True others will recommend mean and your confusion will remain unabated. Let us say you even get some examples from people who recommend one or the other position, the confusion will remain. Best way to solve such confusions and radically remove the 'dhund' is to take a few charts and test out which of the nodal positions make more sense and you will never harbour confusion if you spend the extra time and make a sincere effort. In doing so, you will begin to see nuances of astrological effect as well, assuming that you are a beginner and not well-versed in the intricacies of jyotish analysis. Since the two positions (M vs T) are fairly close, you will be forced to use finer vargas and that experience will be a bonus in the long run. People should apply this general approach for all such questions, including dashas, ayanamshas etc. Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai babu saheb. Much better than 'processed' prepackaged food with preservatives etc ;-) RR , " pankaj_bansal19 " <pankaj_bansal19@ ....> wrote: > > Hello Senior members and Friends, > There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we should use for rahu/ketu:true/ mean " .plz suggest me? > > Thanks > __.._,_.___ Messages in this topic (3) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. MARKETPLACE You have 1 New Message: Someone Challenges your IQ!. ____________ _________ _________ __ How Many Triangles? 92.6% of Americans Fail this Question!. ____________ _________ _________ __ Mom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their families, for the world and for each other Change settings via the Web ( ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Un Recent Activity * 56 New Members * 1 New FilesVisit Your Group Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. Ads on Learn more now. Reach customers searching for you. Y! Messenger Want a quick chat? Chat over IM with group members. .. ICC World Twenty20 England & #39;09 exclusively on ! CRICKET http://cricket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Dear bansal One of the way to check such confusions is to check the real life scenario. I have seen that if ketu is occupying lagna, the native suffers from boils or reddish / black skin afflictions during childhood in some caseses with oozing puss. the intensity of affliction or nature, color etc depends on the sign, malefic or benefic influences etc. But it will be felt in one form or other. Rahu's influence if placed on the lagna is not so pronounced but may be affected by weezhing, esonophelia, cough, chest congestions, brochitis etc, again depending on the amount of affliction. It becomes more evident as the native aged. Ketu in the 2nd, being Kutumbha sthana, affects the family. There will be splits in the family and in some cases even quarels & litigations between the family members. (ketu is called Kanda karaka. He carries a sword). depending on the sign / malefic or benefic influences, dasa etc, the nature , period etc changes (the splits might have occured even before the native birth or shall occur on a future date.) Again the effect will be evident. Splits in the family always happen - one brother will have a job in bombay and the other in chennai. so they might settle in their respective places. This is normal and mostly there will be reasonably good relatioship between them. But the splits attributed to Ketu usualy are unpleasent. Check if you friend had / is undergoing such experiences. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > In case of retrograde nodes,mean is always suggested as actual positions has other issues to address > vrkrishnan > > --- On Wed, 6/24/09, pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19 wrote: > > > pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19 > Re: Re: which node for rahu/ketu? > > Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 4:52 AM > > Thanks Rohini Sir,for your response.Actually i had a birth data of my freind in which if we take true node,then ketu/rahu in 1st & 7th house but if mean,then ketu rahu in 2nd & 8th position in rasi chart.so plz tell me how can i check it?As i am a beginner in this vast science named'astrology' . > > Thanks Again > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com> > > Tuesday, 23 June, 2009 4:49:37 AM > Re: which node for rahu/ketu? > > This is how it works Pankaj ji. There are only two possibilities: True or Mean. Some will say True others will recommend mean and your confusion will remain unabated. Let us say you even get some examples from people who recommend one or the other position, the confusion will remain. > > Best way to solve such confusions and radically remove the 'dhund' is to take a few charts and test out which of the nodal positions make more sense and you will never harbour confusion if you spend the extra time and make a sincere effort. In doing so, you will begin to see nuances of astrological effect as well, assuming that you are a beginner and not well-versed in the intricacies of jyotish analysis. Since the two positions (M vs T) are fairly close, you will be forced to use finer vargas and that experience will be a bonus in the long run. People should apply this general approach for all such questions, including dashas, ayanamshas etc. Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai babu saheb. Much better than 'processed' prepackaged food with preservatives etc ;-) > > RR > > , " pankaj_bansal19 " <pankaj_bansal19@ ....> wrote: > > > > Hello Senior members and Friends, > > There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we should use for rahu/ketu:true/ mean " .plz suggest me? > > > > Thanks > > > > __.._,_.___ > Messages in this topic (3) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > MARKETPLACE > You have 1 New Message: Someone Challenges your IQ!. > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > How Many Triangles? 92.6% of Americans Fail this Question!. > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Mom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their families, for the world and for each other > > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Un > Recent Activity > * 56 > New Members > * 1 > New FilesVisit Your Group > Finance > It's Now Personal > Guides, news, > advice & more. > Ads on > Learn more now. > Reach customers > searching for you. > Y! Messenger > Want a quick chat? > Chat over IM with > group members. > . > > ICC World Twenty20 England & #39;09 exclusively on ! CRICKET http://cricket. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Pujay shri sureshbabuag ji, when u say ketu in the 2nd house creates the problems in family, does it matter which rasi it is or any rasi - result is the same as u mentioned regards pdk --- On Wed, 24/6/09, sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag wrote: sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag Re: which node for rahu/ketu? Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 2:05 PM Dear bansal One of the way to check such confusions is to check the real life scenario. I have seen that if ketu is occupying lagna, the native suffers from boils or reddish / black skin afflictions during childhood in some caseses with oozing puss. the intensity of affliction or nature, color etc depends on the sign, malefic or benefic influences etc. But it will be felt in one form or other. Rahu's influence if placed on the lagna is not so pronounced but may be affected by weezhing, esonophelia, cough, chest congestions, brochitis etc, again depending on the amount of affliction. It becomes more evident as the native aged. Ketu in the 2nd, being Kutumbha sthana, affects the family. There will be splits in the family and in some cases even quarels & litigations between the family members. (ketu is called Kanda karaka. He carries a sword). depending on the sign / malefic or benefic influences, dasa etc, the nature , period etc changes (the splits might have occured even before the native birth or shall occur on a future date.) Again the effect will be evident. Splits in the family always happen - one brother will have a job in bombay and the other in chennai. so they might settle in their respective places. This is normal and mostly there will be reasonably good relatioship between them. But the splits attributed to Ketu usualy are unpleasent. Check if you friend had / is undergoing such experiences. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > In case of retrograde nodes,mean is always suggested as actual positions has other issues to address > vrkrishnan > > --- On Wed, 6/24/09, pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19@ ...> wrote: > > > pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19@ ...> > Re: Re: which node for rahu/ketu? > > Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 4:52 AM > > Thanks Rohini Sir,for your response.Actually i had a birth data of my freind in which if we take true node,then ketu/rahu in 1st & 7th house but if mean,then ketu rahu in 2nd & 8th position in rasi chart.so plz tell me how can i check it?As i am a beginner in this vast science named'astrology' . > > Thanks Again > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com> > > Tuesday, 23 June, 2009 4:49:37 AM > Re: which node for rahu/ketu? > > This is how it works Pankaj ji. There are only two possibilities: True or Mean. Some will say True others will recommend mean and your confusion will remain unabated. Let us say you even get some examples from people who recommend one or the other position, the confusion will remain. > > Best way to solve such confusions and radically remove the 'dhund' is to take a few charts and test out which of the nodal positions make more sense and you will never harbour confusion if you spend the extra time and make a sincere effort. In doing so, you will begin to see nuances of astrological effect as well, assuming that you are a beginner and not well-versed in the intricacies of jyotish analysis. Since the two positions (M vs T) are fairly close, you will be forced to use finer vargas and that experience will be a bonus in the long run. People should apply this general approach for all such questions, including dashas, ayanamshas etc. Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai babu saheb. Much better than 'processed' prepackaged food with preservatives etc ;-) > > RR > > , " pankaj_bansal19 " <pankaj_bansal19@ ....> wrote: > > > > Hello Senior members and Friends, > > There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we should use for rahu/ketu:true/ mean " .plz suggest me? > > > > Thanks > > > > __.._,_.___ > Messages in this topic (3) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > MARKETPLACE > You have 1 New Message: Someone Challenges your IQ!. > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > How Many Triangles? 92.6% of Americans Fail this Question!. > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Mom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their families, for the world and for each other > > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Un > Recent Activity > * 56 > New Members > * 1 > New FilesVisit Your Group > Finance > It's Now Personal > Guides, news, > advice & more. > Ads on > Learn more now. > Reach customers > searching for you. > Y! 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Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Sureshji,thanks for your precious response.The native details are: Dob:12/aug/1986 Tob:08:43am Pob:gwalior(m.p) :78E10,26N12. Can u Plz analyse it? Thanks Again ________________________________ sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag Wednesday, 24 June, 2009 6:35:41 PM Re: which node for rahu/ketu? Dear bansal One of the way to check such confusions is to check the real life scenario. I have seen that if ketu is occupying lagna, the native suffers from boils or reddish / black skin afflictions during childhood in some caseses with oozing puss. the intensity of affliction or nature, color etc depends on the sign, malefic or benefic influences etc. But it will be felt in one form or other. Rahu's influence if placed on the lagna is not so pronounced but may be affected by weezhing, esonophelia, cough, chest congestions, brochitis etc, again depending on the amount of affliction. It becomes more evident as the native aged. Ketu in the 2nd, being Kutumbha sthana, affects the family. There will be splits in the family and in some cases even quarels & litigations between the family members. (ketu is called Kanda karaka. He carries a sword). depending on the sign / malefic or benefic influences, dasa etc, the nature , period etc changes (the splits might have occured even before the native birth or shall occur on a future date.) Again the effect will be evident. Splits in the family always happen - one brother will have a job in bombay and the other in chennai. so they might settle in their respective places. This is normal and mostly there will be reasonably good relatioship between them. But the splits attributed to Ketu usualy are unpleasent. Check if you friend had / is undergoing such experiences. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > In case of retrograde nodes,mean is always suggested as actual positions has other issues to address > vrkrishnan > > --- On Wed, 6/24/09, pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19@ ...> wrote: > > > pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19@ ...> > Re: Re: which node for rahu/ketu? > > Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 4:52 AM > > Thanks Rohini Sir,for your response.Actually i had a birth data of my freind in which if we take true node,then ketu/rahu in 1st & 7th house but if mean,then ketu rahu in 2nd & 8th position in rasi chart.so plz tell me how can i check it?As i am a beginner in this vast science named'astrology' . > > Thanks Again > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com> > > Tuesday, 23 June, 2009 4:49:37 AM > Re: which node for rahu/ketu? > > This is how it works Pankaj ji. There are only two possibilities: True or Mean. Some will say True others will recommend mean and your confusion will remain unabated. Let us say you even get some examples from people who recommend one or the other position, the confusion will remain. > > Best way to solve such confusions and radically remove the 'dhund' is to take a few charts and test out which of the nodal positions make more sense and you will never harbour confusion if you spend the extra time and make a sincere effort. In doing so, you will begin to see nuances of astrological effect as well, assuming that you are a beginner and not well-versed in the intricacies of jyotish analysis. Since the two positions (M vs T) are fairly close, you will be forced to use finer vargas and that experience will be a bonus in the long run. People should apply this general approach for all such questions, including dashas, ayanamshas etc. Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai babu saheb. Much better than 'processed' prepackaged food with preservatives etc ;-) > > RR > > , " pankaj_bansal19 " <pankaj_bansal19@ ....> wrote: > > > > Hello Senior members and Friends, > > There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we should use for rahu/ketu:true/ mean " .plz suggest me? > > > > Thanks > > > > __.._,_.___ > Messages in this topic (3) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > MARKETPLACE > You have 1 New Message: Someone Challenges your IQ!. > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > How Many Triangles? 92.6% of Americans Fail this Question!. > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Mom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their families, for the world and for each other > > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Un > Recent Activity > * 56 > New Members > * 1 > New FilesVisit Your Group > Finance > It's Now Personal > Guides, news, > advice & more. > Ads on > Learn more now. > Reach customers > searching for you. > Y! 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Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Dear Bansal, As I said, Let this be a learning point for you. After all he is your friend and should be able to know about him better. As far as I concerned, Ketu is in the 2nd house at thula- 0.20 degrees. Ketu transits only 0.03 degrees a day. He is changing to Kanya only on 18th evening. ie: only after 6 more days. This is as per Lahiri Ayanamsa. Since he is very near to lagna, he may also have a minor influence on the lagna as explained earlier. As per Raman Ayanamsa Ketu is at Thula - 1:46 That means he changes only on 14-Sep. As per Kundalee (Surya Sidhanta) Thula 2:39 again a lot of difference As per Chandra Hari Ayanamsa He is in Kanya at 29:34, which means he already changed sign on 3rd evening. Majority of the Astrologers use Lahiri Ayanamsa & there are a lot number who swear by B.V.Raman's. Our own Prasanth Kumar uses B.V.Raman and is quiet confidend with it. There are lot of Panchangas which uses Surya Sidhanta (which Kundalee claims to be the base)also. But Chandra Hari's Ayanamsa is used very rarely as this is not at all proven and is only a theory. Hence I am not Venturing into this never ending controvercy. Find out for yourself. TIP: Moon the karaka for Mother(karaka for 4th house) is also along with Ketu in the 2nd. 4th House (Sukha sthana/Matru Sthana/Griha sthana) is having Retrograde Mars. 4th lord Jupiter is retrograde in the 6th (duritha sthana). 2nd House(Kutumbha sthana/Dhana sthana/business) Lord Venus is debilated in the lagna. You can compare with actual experience and what you can infer from the above. This should give you a fair idea about the nodes as well. I know it is little confusing. Have patience and you can learn. Don't get drawn in this true/mean/ayanamsa confusions. Use what other experienced Astrologers are using. Later on when you are thorough with one system you can explore the other systems as well other wise you will never learn anything. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19 wrote: > > Sureshji,thanks for your precious response.The native details are: > Dob:12/aug/1986 > Tob:08:43am > Pob:gwalior(m.p) > :78E10,26N12. > > Can u Plz analyse it? > > Thanks Again > > > > > ________________________________ > sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag > > Wednesday, 24 June, 2009 6:35:41 PM > Re: which node for rahu/ketu? > > > > > > Dear bansal > > One of the way to check such confusions is to check the real life scenario. > > I have seen that if ketu is occupying lagna, the native suffers from boils or reddish / black skin afflictions during childhood in some caseses with oozing puss. the intensity of affliction or nature, color etc depends on the sign, malefic or benefic influences etc. But it will be felt in one form or other. Rahu's influence if placed on the lagna is not so pronounced but may be affected by weezhing, esonophelia, cough, chest congestions, brochitis etc, again depending on the amount of affliction. It becomes more evident as the native aged. > > Ketu in the 2nd, being Kutumbha sthana, affects the family. There will be splits in the family and in some cases even quarels & litigations between the family members. (ketu is called Kanda karaka. He carries a sword). depending on the sign / malefic or benefic influences, dasa etc, the nature , period etc changes (the splits might have occured even before the native birth or shall occur on a future date.) Again the effect will be evident. Splits in the family always happen - one brother will have a job in bombay and the other in chennai. so they might settle in their respective places. This is normal and mostly there will be reasonably good relatioship between them. But the splits attributed to Ketu usualy are unpleasent. > > Check if you friend had / is undergoing such experiences. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > In case of retrograde nodes,mean is always suggested as actual positions has other issues to address > > vrkrishnan > > > > --- On Wed, 6/24/09, pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19@ ...> > > Re: Re: which node for rahu/ketu? > > > > Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 4:52 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Rohini Sir,for your response.Actually i had a birth data of my freind in which if we take true node,then ketu/rahu in 1st & 7th house but if mean,then ketu rahu in 2nd & 8th position in rasi chart.so plz tell me how can i check it?As i am a beginner in this vast science named'astrology' . > > > > Thanks Again > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com> > > > > Tuesday, 23 June, 2009 4:49:37 AM > > Re: which node for rahu/ketu? > > > > This is how it works Pankaj ji. There are only two possibilities: True or Mean. Some will say True others will recommend mean and your confusion will remain unabated. Let us say you even get some examples from people who recommend one or the other position, the confusion will remain. > > > > Best way to solve such confusions and radically remove the 'dhund' is to take a few charts and test out which of the nodal positions make more sense and you will never harbour confusion if you spend the extra time and make a sincere effort. In doing so, you will begin to see nuances of astrological effect as well, assuming that you are a beginner and not well-versed in the intricacies of jyotish analysis. Since the two positions (M vs T) are fairly close, you will be forced to use finer vargas and that experience will be a bonus in the long run. People should apply this general approach for all such questions, including dashas, ayanamshas etc. Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai babu saheb. Much better than 'processed' prepackaged food with preservatives etc ;-) > > > > RR > > > > , " pankaj_bansal19 " <pankaj_bansal19@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Senior members and Friends, > > > There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we should use for rahu/ketu:true/ mean " .plz suggest me? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > __.._,_.___ > > Messages in this topic (3) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > MARKETPLACE > > You have 1 New Message: Someone Challenges your IQ!. > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > How Many Triangles? 92.6% of Americans Fail this Question!. > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Mom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their families, for the world and for each other > > > > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Un > > Recent Activity > > * 56 > > New Members > > * 1 > > New FilesVisit Your Group > > Finance > > It's Now Personal > > Guides, news, > > advice & more. > > Ads on > > Learn more now. > > Reach customers > > searching for you. > > Y! 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Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Namasthe, Yes, you got it right. As I said, the intensity, nature, reasons may vary according to the sign , association of planets also. A Banefic in Subha rasi is considered good. He gives good results also in Ashubha rasi though in a limited way. shubho.ashubharkshe ruchiraM kubhuutale karoti vrikshaM vipariitamanyathaa (varaha hora ch:3 sloka:6) The malefics gives opposit effects. Ie in Subha sign they are mildly melefic and malefic they tend to give horrific results. Consider the enemy/friendly / yoga karaka factors also here. In case of Ketu he is almost like Mars. I have always considered him as an amplifier- He amplifies evry aspects he comes in contact. He is capable of creating a Moth hill out of a mole. Hence a small squible among the members of the family can develop into big problem if influenced by Ketu. The influence of Ketu can also make a person hyperactive - again amplication. some people describe problems as if that is the biggest problem in the whole world - again you might find the influence of ketu's amplification. Hope you are doing fine with warm regards & take care A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , pdk kotak <ganeshji101 wrote: > > Pujay shri sureshbabuag ji, > > when u say ketu in the 2nd house creates the problems in family, > does it matter which rasi it is or any rasi - result is the same as u mentioned > regards pdk > --- On Wed, 24/6/09, sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag wrote: > > > sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag > Re: which node for rahu/ketu? > > Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 2:05 PM > > Dear bansal > > One of the way to check such confusions is to check the real life scenario. > > I have seen that if ketu is occupying lagna, the native suffers from boils or reddish / black skin afflictions during childhood in some caseses with oozing puss. the intensity of affliction or nature, color etc depends on the sign, malefic or benefic influences etc. But it will be felt in one form or other. Rahu's influence if placed on the lagna is not so pronounced but may be affected by weezhing, esonophelia, cough, chest congestions, brochitis etc, again depending on the amount of affliction. It becomes more evident as the native aged. > > Ketu in the 2nd, being Kutumbha sthana, affects the family. There will be splits in the family and in some cases even quarels & litigations between the family members. (ketu is called Kanda karaka. He carries a sword). depending on the sign / malefic or benefic influences, dasa etc, the nature , period etc changes (the splits might have occured even before the native birth or shall occur on a future date.) Again the effect will be evident. Splits in the family always happen - one brother will have a job in bombay and the other in chennai. so they might settle in their respective places. This is normal and mostly there will be reasonably good relatioship between them. But the splits attributed to Ketu usualy are unpleasent. > > Check if you friend had / is undergoing such experiences. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > In case of retrograde nodes,mean is always suggested as actual positions has other issues to address > > vrkrishnan > > > > --- On Wed, 6/24/09, pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19@ ...> > > Re: Re: which node for rahu/ketu? > > > > Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 4:52 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Rohini Sir,for your response.Actually i had a birth data of my freind in which if we take true node,then ketu/rahu in 1st & 7th house but if mean,then ketu rahu in 2nd & 8th position in rasi chart.so plz tell me how can i check it?As i am a beginner in this vast science named'astrology' . > > > > Thanks Again > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com> > > > > Tuesday, 23 June, 2009 4:49:37 AM > > Re: which node for rahu/ketu? > > > > This is how it works Pankaj ji. There are only two possibilities: True or Mean. Some will say True others will recommend mean and your confusion will remain unabated. Let us say you even get some examples from people who recommend one or the other position, the confusion will remain. > > > > Best way to solve such confusions and radically remove the 'dhund' is to take a few charts and test out which of the nodal positions make more sense and you will never harbour confusion if you spend the extra time and make a sincere effort. In doing so, you will begin to see nuances of astrological effect as well, assuming that you are a beginner and not well-versed in the intricacies of jyotish analysis. Since the two positions (M vs T) are fairly close, you will be forced to use finer vargas and that experience will be a bonus in the long run. People should apply this general approach for all such questions, including dashas, ayanamshas etc. Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai babu saheb. Much better than 'processed' prepackaged food with preservatives etc ;-) > > > > RR > > > > , " pankaj_bansal19 " <pankaj_bansal19@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Senior members and Friends, > > > There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we should use for rahu/ketu:true/ mean " .plz suggest me? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > __.._,_.___ > > Messages in this topic (3) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > MARKETPLACE > > You have 1 New Message: Someone Challenges your IQ!. > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > How Many Triangles? 92.6% of Americans Fail this Question!. > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Mom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their families, for the world and for each other > > > > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Un > > Recent Activity > > * 56 > > New Members > > * 1 > > New FilesVisit Your Group > > Finance > > It's Now Personal > > Guides, news, > > advice & more. > > Ads on > > Learn more now. > > Reach customers > > searching for you. > > Y! 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Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Pankaj: For this epoch the ayanamsha value I am using is -22:42:31. Unfortunately, not any significant difference between True and Mean values. Those using other ayanamshas which move the cuspal longitudes this way or that way may be able to help you better with your query. Which ayanamsha do you use? Speaking of vote counts, and putting two and two together one may deduce that a value used by Surya Siddhanta or close to it may probably be the one that " most " people use, at least in Hindi-speaking areas of India. Most of these jyotishis from what we have been told use local panchaangas which do not use Lahiri or Raman or similar values which quite frankly could be overrepresented in the relative 'minority' of english-speaking jyotishis that you see on the Internet. There could be some " sampling bias " if you are going with this as being the representative of frequency of use of some of these ayanamshas used here. RR , pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19 wrote: > > Sureshji,thanks for your precious response.The native details are: > Dob:12/aug/1986 > Tob:08:43am > Pob:gwalior(m.p) > :78E10,26N12. > > Can u Plz analyse it? > > Thanks Again > > > > > ________________________________ > sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag > > Wednesday, 24 June, 2009 6:35:41 PM > Re: which node for rahu/ketu? > > > > > > Dear bansal > > One of the way to check such confusions is to check the real life scenario. > > I have seen that if ketu is occupying lagna, the native suffers from boils or reddish / black skin afflictions during childhood in some caseses with oozing puss. the intensity of affliction or nature, color etc depends on the sign, malefic or benefic influences etc. But it will be felt in one form or other. Rahu's influence if placed on the lagna is not so pronounced but may be affected by weezhing, esonophelia, cough, chest congestions, brochitis etc, again depending on the amount of affliction. It becomes more evident as the native aged. > > Ketu in the 2nd, being Kutumbha sthana, affects the family. There will be splits in the family and in some cases even quarels & litigations between the family members. (ketu is called Kanda karaka. He carries a sword). depending on the sign / malefic or benefic influences, dasa etc, the nature , period etc changes (the splits might have occured even before the native birth or shall occur on a future date.) Again the effect will be evident. Splits in the family always happen - one brother will have a job in bombay and the other in chennai. so they might settle in their respective places. This is normal and mostly there will be reasonably good relatioship between them. But the splits attributed to Ketu usualy are unpleasent. > > Check if you friend had / is undergoing such experiences. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > In case of retrograde nodes,mean is always suggested as actual positions has other issues to address > > vrkrishnan > > > > --- On Wed, 6/24/09, pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19@ ...> > > Re: Re: which node for rahu/ketu? > > > > Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 4:52 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Rohini Sir,for your response.Actually i had a birth data of my freind in which if we take true node,then ketu/rahu in 1st & 7th house but if mean,then ketu rahu in 2nd & 8th position in rasi chart.so plz tell me how can i check it?As i am a beginner in this vast science named'astrology' . > > > > Thanks Again > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com> > > > > Tuesday, 23 June, 2009 4:49:37 AM > > Re: which node for rahu/ketu? > > > > This is how it works Pankaj ji. There are only two possibilities: True or Mean. Some will say True others will recommend mean and your confusion will remain unabated. Let us say you even get some examples from people who recommend one or the other position, the confusion will remain. > > > > Best way to solve such confusions and radically remove the 'dhund' is to take a few charts and test out which of the nodal positions make more sense and you will never harbour confusion if you spend the extra time and make a sincere effort. In doing so, you will begin to see nuances of astrological effect as well, assuming that you are a beginner and not well-versed in the intricacies of jyotish analysis. Since the two positions (M vs T) are fairly close, you will be forced to use finer vargas and that experience will be a bonus in the long run. People should apply this general approach for all such questions, including dashas, ayanamshas etc. Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai babu saheb. Much better than 'processed' prepackaged food with preservatives etc ;-) > > > > RR > > > > , " pankaj_bansal19 " <pankaj_bansal19@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Senior members and Friends, > > > There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we should use for rahu/ketu:true/ mean " .plz suggest me? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > __.._,_.___ > > Messages in this topic (3) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > MARKETPLACE > > You have 1 New Message: Someone Challenges your IQ!. > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > How Many Triangles? 92.6% of Americans Fail this Question!. > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Mom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their families, for the world and for each other > > > > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Un > > Recent Activity > > * 56 > > New Members > > * 1 > > New FilesVisit Your Group > > Finance > > It's Now Personal > > Guides, news, > > advice & more. > > Ads on > > Learn more now. > > Reach customers > > searching for you. > > Y! 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