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Hello Rajiv,

 

True nodes are used in SA Astrology.

 

Best wishes.

 

 

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which node for rahu/ketu?

 

 

Hello Professor,which node we should use for rahu/ketu in satva (true/mean)?Thanks

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Hello Rajiv,

 

It is only with true node that we can see the stationary process of the nodes.

 

By calculating the mean movement, this feature of the nodal movement is removed.

 

An important contribution of SA is the use of the true nodes for better horoscope interpretation and prediction.

 

You can see the movement of the true note in the graphical representation in the article the Truth about eclipses.

 

http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/2008/08/truth-about-eclipses.html

 

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SIHA <vkchoudhry Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 2:52:24 AMRe: which node for rahu/ketu?

 

 

Hello Rajiv,

 

True nodes are used in SA Astrology.

 

Best wishes.

 

 

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which node for rahu/ketu?

 

 

Hello Professor,which node we should use for rahu/ketu in satva (true/mean)?Thanks

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Hello Senior members and Friends,

There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we

should use for rahu/ketu:true/mean " .plz suggest me?

 

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Hello Senior members and Friends,

There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we should use for

rahu/ketu:true/ mean " .plz suggest me?

 

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This is how it works Pankaj ji. There are only two possibilities: True or Mean.

Some will say True others will recommend mean and your confusion will remain

unabated. Let us say you even get some examples from people who recommend one or

the other position, the confusion will remain.

 

Best way to solve such confusions and radically remove the 'dhund' is to take a

few charts and test out which of the nodal positions make more sense and you

will never harbour confusion if you spend the extra time and make a sincere

effort. In doing so, you will begin to see nuances of astrological effect as

well, assuming that you are a beginner and not well-versed in the intricacies of

jyotish analysis. Since the two positions (M vs T) are fairly close, you will be

forced to use finer vargas and that experience will be a bonus in the long run.

People should apply this general approach for all such questions, including

dashas, ayanamshas etc. Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai

babu saheb. Much better than 'processed' prepackaged food with preservatives etc

;-)

 

RR

 

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wrote:

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> Hello Senior members and Friends,

> There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we

should use for rahu/ketu:true/mean " .plz suggest me?

>

> Thanks

>

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" Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai babu saheb. " lekin

mehanat krana hai tho mam nahi kar sakte hai.Aap Karte kya hai.Aap kam tho yehi

hai.Phir hamareliye itna madad nahi kar sakte hai Kya

goes the repartee.These days it is easy yhrow the towel in the ring.As

usherer,based on menu,arrange things indicating the swaad for relishing the

nutrients and beverages.

vrkrishnan

--- On Mon, 6/22/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

 

 

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

Re: which node for rahu/ketu?

 

Monday, June 22, 2009, 7:19 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is how it works Pankaj ji. There are only two possibilities: True or Mean.

Some will say True others will recommend mean and your confusion will remain

unabated. Let us say you even get some examples from people who recommend one or

the other position, the confusion will remain.

 

Best way to solve such confusions and radically remove the 'dhund' is to take a

few charts and test out which of the nodal positions make more sense and you

will never harbour confusion if you spend the extra time and make a sincere

effort. In doing so, you will begin to see nuances of astrological effect as

well, assuming that you are a beginner and not well-versed in the intricacies of

jyotish analysis. Since the two positions (M vs T) are fairly close, you will be

forced to use finer vargas and that experience will be a bonus in the long run.

People should apply this general approach for all such questions, including

dashas, ayanamshas etc. Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai

babu saheb. Much better than 'processed' prepackaged food with preservatives etc

;-)

 

RR

 

, " pankaj_bansal19 " <pankaj_bansal19@

....> wrote:

>

> Hello Senior members and Friends,

> There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we should use for

rahu/ketu:true/ mean " .plz suggest me?

>

> Thanks

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Krishnan Dada,

 

In a metaphorical sense it is ma's fault ;-)

 

Bachaa kuch bhi karay or naa karey, ma roti parosaygee!

 

Woh Celestial MA NATURALLY SAAB Jaantee hai and HER plan is more drastic and

effective, when followed properly!

 

Hence fasting is very effective as remedies go! But GNAWING HUNGER must be felt!

Interestingly, if it is not clearly explained, some nativities begin observing

fast by not eating regular food but replacing it with fruits, fruit juices,

mithayi prasadam, lassi laced with sugar and end up taking in more CALORIES than

what they were asked to give up!

 

And then they complain why their *fasting* is not working ...!

 

RR

 

 

, vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> " Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai babu saheb. " lekin

mehanat krana hai tho mam nahi kar sakte hai.Aap Karte kya hai.Aap kam tho yehi

hai.Phir hamareliye itna madad nahi kar sakte hai Kya

> goes the repartee.These days it is easy yhrow the towel in the ring.As

usherer,based on menu,arrange things indicating the swaad for relishing the

nutrients and beverages.

> vrkrishnan

> --- On Mon, 6/22/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

> Re: which node for rahu/ketu?

>

> Monday, June 22, 2009, 7:19 PM

>

>

This is how it works Pankaj ji. There are only two possibilities: True or

Mean. Some will say True others will recommend mean and your confusion will

remain unabated. Let us say you even get some examples from people who recommend

one or the other position, the confusion will remain.

>

> Best way to solve such confusions and radically remove the 'dhund' is to take

a few charts and test out which of the nodal positions make more sense and you

will never harbour confusion if you spend the extra time and make a sincere

effort. In doing so, you will begin to see nuances of astrological effect as

well, assuming that you are a beginner and not well-versed in the intricacies of

jyotish analysis. Since the two positions (M vs T) are fairly close, you will be

forced to use finer vargas and that experience will be a bonus in the long run.

People should apply this general approach for all such questions, including

dashas, ayanamshas etc. Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai

babu saheb. Much better than 'processed' prepackaged food with preservatives etc

;-)

>

> RR

>

> , " pankaj_bansal19 " <pankaj_bansal19@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Senior members and Friends,

> > There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we should use for

rahu/ketu:true/ mean " .plz suggest me?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

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Thanks Rohini Sir,for your response.Actually i had a birth data of my freind in

which if we take true node,then ketu/rahu in 1st & 7th house but if mean,then ketu

rahu in 2nd & 8th position in rasi chart.so plz tell me how can i check it?As i am

a beginner in this vast science named'astrology'.

 

Thanks Again

 

 

 

 

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Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

 

Tuesday, 23 June, 2009 4:49:37 AM

Re: which node for rahu/ketu?

 

 

 

 

 

This is how it works Pankaj ji. There are only two possibilities: True or Mean.

Some will say True others will recommend mean and your confusion will remain

unabated. Let us say you even get some examples from people who recommend one or

the other position, the confusion will remain.

 

Best way to solve such confusions and radically remove the 'dhund' is to take a

few charts and test out which of the nodal positions make more sense and you

will never harbour confusion if you spend the extra time and make a sincere

effort. In doing so, you will begin to see nuances of astrological effect as

well, assuming that you are a beginner and not well-versed in the intricacies of

jyotish analysis. Since the two positions (M vs T) are fairly close, you will be

forced to use finer vargas and that experience will be a bonus in the long run.

People should apply this general approach for all such questions, including

dashas, ayanamshas etc. Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai

babu saheb. Much better than 'processed' prepackaged food with preservatives etc

;-)

 

RR

 

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....> wrote:

>

> Hello Senior members and Friends,

> There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we

should use for rahu/ketu:true/ mean " .plz suggest me?

>

> Thanks

>

 

 

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In case of retrograde nodes,mean is always suggested as actual positions has

other issues to address

vrkrishnan

 

--- On Wed, 6/24/09, pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19 wrote:

 

 

pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19

Re: Re: which node for rahu/ketu?

 

Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 4:52 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks Rohini Sir,for your response.Actually i had a birth data of my freind in

which if we take true node,then ketu/rahu in 1st & 7th house but if mean,then ketu

rahu in 2nd & 8th position in rasi chart.so plz tell me how can i check it?As i am

a beginner in this vast science named'astrology' .

 

Thanks Again

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com>

 

Tuesday, 23 June, 2009 4:49:37 AM

Re: which node for rahu/ketu?

 

This is how it works Pankaj ji. There are only two possibilities: True or Mean.

Some will say True others will recommend mean and your confusion will remain

unabated. Let us say you even get some examples from people who recommend one or

the other position, the confusion will remain.

 

Best way to solve such confusions and radically remove the 'dhund' is to take a

few charts and test out which of the nodal positions make more sense and you

will never harbour confusion if you spend the extra time and make a sincere

effort. In doing so, you will begin to see nuances of astrological effect as

well, assuming that you are a beginner and not well-versed in the intricacies of

jyotish analysis. Since the two positions (M vs T) are fairly close, you will be

forced to use finer vargas and that experience will be a bonus in the long run.

People should apply this general approach for all such questions, including

dashas, ayanamshas etc. Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai

babu saheb. Much better than 'processed' prepackaged food with preservatives etc

;-)

 

RR

 

, " pankaj_bansal19 " <pankaj_bansal19@

....> wrote:

>

> Hello Senior members and Friends,

> There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we should use for

rahu/ketu:true/ mean " .plz suggest me?

>

> Thanks

>

 

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Dear bansal

 

One of the way to check such confusions is to check the real life scenario.

 

I have seen that if ketu is occupying lagna, the native suffers from boils or

reddish / black skin afflictions during childhood in some caseses with oozing

puss. the intensity of affliction or nature, color etc depends on the sign,

malefic or benefic influences etc. But it will be felt in one form or other.

Rahu's influence if placed on the lagna is not so pronounced but may be affected

by weezhing, esonophelia, cough, chest congestions, brochitis etc, again

depending on the amount of affliction. It becomes more evident as the native

aged.

 

Ketu in the 2nd, being Kutumbha sthana, affects the family. There will be splits

in the family and in some cases even quarels & litigations between the family

members. (ketu is called Kanda karaka. He carries a sword). depending on the

sign / malefic or benefic influences, dasa etc, the nature , period etc changes

(the splits might have occured even before the native birth or shall occur on a

future date.) Again the effect will be evident. Splits in the family always

happen - one brother will have a job in bombay and the other in chennai. so they

might settle in their respective places. This is normal and mostly there will be

reasonably good relatioship between them. But the splits attributed to Ketu

usualy are unpleasent.

 

Check if you friend had / is undergoing such experiences.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> In case of retrograde nodes,mean is always suggested as actual positions has

other issues to address

> vrkrishnan

>

> --- On Wed, 6/24/09, pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19 wrote:

>

>

> pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19

> Re: Re: which node for rahu/ketu?

>

> Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 4:52 AM

>

>

Thanks Rohini Sir,for your response.Actually i had a birth data of my freind

in which if we take true node,then ketu/rahu in 1st & 7th house but if mean,then

ketu rahu in 2nd & 8th position in rasi chart.so plz tell me how can i check it?As

i am a beginner in this vast science named'astrology' .

>

> Thanks Again

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com>

>

> Tuesday, 23 June, 2009 4:49:37 AM

> Re: which node for rahu/ketu?

>

> This is how it works Pankaj ji. There are only two possibilities: True or

Mean. Some will say True others will recommend mean and your confusion will

remain unabated. Let us say you even get some examples from people who recommend

one or the other position, the confusion will remain.

>

> Best way to solve such confusions and radically remove the 'dhund' is to take

a few charts and test out which of the nodal positions make more sense and you

will never harbour confusion if you spend the extra time and make a sincere

effort. In doing so, you will begin to see nuances of astrological effect as

well, assuming that you are a beginner and not well-versed in the intricacies of

jyotish analysis. Since the two positions (M vs T) are fairly close, you will be

forced to use finer vargas and that experience will be a bonus in the long run.

People should apply this general approach for all such questions, including

dashas, ayanamshas etc. Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai

babu saheb. Much better than 'processed' prepackaged food with preservatives etc

;-)

>

> RR

>

> , " pankaj_bansal19 " <pankaj_bansal19@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Senior members and Friends,

> > There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we should use for

rahu/ketu:true/ mean " .plz suggest me?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

>

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Pujay shri sureshbabuag ji,

 

when u say ketu in the 2nd house creates the problems in family,

does it matter which rasi it is  or any rasi - result is the same as u mentioned

regards pdk

--- On Wed, 24/6/09, sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag wrote:

 

 

sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag

Re: which node for rahu/ketu?

 

Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 2:05 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear bansal

 

One of the way to check such confusions is to check the real life scenario.

 

I have seen that if ketu is occupying lagna, the native suffers from boils or

reddish / black skin afflictions during childhood in some caseses with oozing

puss. the intensity of affliction or nature, color etc depends on the sign,

malefic or benefic influences etc. But it will be felt in one form or other.

Rahu's influence if placed on the lagna is not so pronounced but may be affected

by weezhing, esonophelia, cough, chest congestions, brochitis etc, again

depending on the amount of affliction. It becomes more evident as the native

aged.

 

Ketu in the 2nd, being Kutumbha sthana, affects the family. There will be splits

in the family and in some cases even quarels & litigations between the family

members. (ketu is called Kanda karaka. He carries a sword). depending on the

sign / malefic or benefic influences, dasa etc, the nature , period etc changes

(the splits might have occured even before the native birth or shall occur on a

future date.) Again the effect will be evident. Splits in the family always

happen - one brother will have a job in bombay and the other in chennai. so they

might settle in their respective places. This is normal and mostly there will be

reasonably good relatioship between them. But the splits attributed to Ketu

usualy are unpleasent.

 

Check if you friend had / is undergoing such experiences.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

wrote:

>

> In case of retrograde nodes,mean is always suggested as actual positions has

other issues to address

> vrkrishnan

>

> --- On Wed, 6/24/09, pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19@ ...>

> Re: Re: which node for rahu/ketu?

>

> Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 4:52 AM

>

>

Thanks Rohini Sir,for your response.Actually i had a birth data of my freind

in which if we take true node,then ketu/rahu in 1st & 7th house but if mean,then

ketu rahu in 2nd & 8th position in rasi chart.so plz tell me how can i check it?As

i am a beginner in this vast science named'astrology' .

>

> Thanks Again

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com>

>

> Tuesday, 23 June, 2009 4:49:37 AM

> Re: which node for rahu/ketu?

>

> This is how it works Pankaj ji. There are only two possibilities: True or

Mean. Some will say True others will recommend mean and your confusion will

remain unabated. Let us say you even get some examples from people who recommend

one or the other position, the confusion will remain.

>

> Best way to solve such confusions and radically remove the 'dhund' is to take

a few charts and test out which of the nodal positions make more sense and you

will never harbour confusion if you spend the extra time and make a sincere

effort. In doing so, you will begin to see nuances of astrological effect as

well, assuming that you are a beginner and not well-versed in the intricacies of

jyotish analysis. Since the two positions (M vs T) are fairly close, you will be

forced to use finer vargas and that experience will be a bonus in the long run.

People should apply this general approach for all such questions, including

dashas, ayanamshas etc. Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai

babu saheb. Much better than 'processed' prepackaged food with preservatives etc

;-)

>

> RR

>

> , " pankaj_bansal19 " <pankaj_bansal19@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Senior members and Friends,

> > There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we should use for

rahu/ketu:true/ mean " .plz suggest me?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

>

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Sureshji,thanks for your precious response.The native details are:

Dob:12/aug/1986

Tob:08:43am

Pob:gwalior(m.p)

:78E10,26N12.

 

Can u Plz analyse it?

 

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Wednesday, 24 June, 2009 6:35:41 PM

Re: which node for rahu/ketu?

 

 

 

 

 

Dear bansal

 

One of the way to check such confusions is to check the real life scenario.

 

I have seen that if ketu is occupying lagna, the native suffers from boils or

reddish / black skin afflictions during childhood in some caseses with oozing

puss. the intensity of affliction or nature, color etc depends on the sign,

malefic or benefic influences etc. But it will be felt in one form or other.

Rahu's influence if placed on the lagna is not so pronounced but may be affected

by weezhing, esonophelia, cough, chest congestions, brochitis etc, again

depending on the amount of affliction. It becomes more evident as the native

aged.

 

Ketu in the 2nd, being Kutumbha sthana, affects the family. There will be splits

in the family and in some cases even quarels & litigations between the family

members. (ketu is called Kanda karaka. He carries a sword). depending on the

sign / malefic or benefic influences, dasa etc, the nature , period etc changes

(the splits might have occured even before the native birth or shall occur on a

future date.) Again the effect will be evident. Splits in the family always

happen - one brother will have a job in bombay and the other in chennai. so they

might settle in their respective places. This is normal and mostly there will be

reasonably good relatioship between them. But the splits attributed to Ketu

usualy are unpleasent.

 

Check if you friend had / is undergoing such experiences.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

wrote:

>

> In case of retrograde nodes,mean is always suggested as actual positions has

other issues to address

> vrkrishnan

>

> --- On Wed, 6/24/09, pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19@ ...>

> Re: Re: which node for rahu/ketu?

>

> Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 4:52 AM

>

>

Thanks Rohini Sir,for your response.Actually i had a birth data of my freind

in which if we take true node,then ketu/rahu in 1st & 7th house but if mean,then

ketu rahu in 2nd & 8th position in rasi chart.so plz tell me how can i check it?As

i am a beginner in this vast science named'astrology' .

>

> Thanks Again

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com>

>

> Tuesday, 23 June, 2009 4:49:37 AM

> Re: which node for rahu/ketu?

>

> This is how it works Pankaj ji. There are only two possibilities: True or

Mean. Some will say True others will recommend mean and your confusion will

remain unabated. Let us say you even get some examples from people who recommend

one or the other position, the confusion will remain.

>

> Best way to solve such confusions and radically remove the 'dhund' is to take

a few charts and test out which of the nodal positions make more sense and you

will never harbour confusion if you spend the extra time and make a sincere

effort. In doing so, you will begin to see nuances of astrological effect as

well, assuming that you are a beginner and not well-versed in the intricacies of

jyotish analysis. Since the two positions (M vs T) are fairly close, you will be

forced to use finer vargas and that experience will be a bonus in the long run.

People should apply this general approach for all such questions, including

dashas, ayanamshas etc. Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai

babu saheb. Much better than 'processed' prepackaged food with preservatives etc

;-)

>

> RR

>

> , " pankaj_bansal19 " <pankaj_bansal19@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Senior members and Friends,

> > There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we should use for

rahu/ketu:true/ mean " .plz suggest me?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

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Dear Bansal,

 

As I said, Let this be a learning point for you. After all he is your friend and

should be able to know about him better.

 

As far as I concerned, Ketu is in the 2nd house at thula- 0.20 degrees. Ketu

transits only 0.03 degrees a day. He is changing to Kanya only on 18th evening.

ie: only after 6 more days. This is as per Lahiri Ayanamsa. Since he is very

near to lagna, he may also have a minor influence on the lagna as explained

earlier.

 

As per Raman Ayanamsa Ketu is at Thula - 1:46 That means he changes only on

14-Sep.

 

As per Kundalee (Surya Sidhanta) Thula 2:39 again a lot of difference

 

As per Chandra Hari Ayanamsa He is in Kanya at 29:34, which means he already

changed sign on 3rd evening.

 

Majority of the Astrologers use Lahiri Ayanamsa & there are a lot number who

swear by B.V.Raman's. Our own Prasanth Kumar uses B.V.Raman and is quiet

confidend with it. There are lot of Panchangas which uses Surya Sidhanta (which

Kundalee claims to be the base)also. But Chandra Hari's Ayanamsa is used very

rarely as this is not at all proven and is only a theory. Hence I am not

Venturing into this never ending controvercy. Find out for yourself.

 

TIP: Moon the karaka for Mother(karaka for 4th house) is also along with Ketu in

the 2nd. 4th House (Sukha sthana/Matru Sthana/Griha sthana) is having Retrograde

Mars. 4th lord Jupiter is retrograde in the 6th (duritha sthana). 2nd

House(Kutumbha sthana/Dhana sthana/business) Lord Venus is debilated in the

lagna.

 

You can compare with actual experience and what you can infer from the above.

This should give you a fair idea about the nodes as well.

 

I know it is little confusing. Have patience and you can learn. Don't get drawn

in this true/mean/ayanamsa confusions. Use what other experienced Astrologers

are using. Later on when you are thorough with one system you can explore the

other systems as well other wise you will never learn anything.

 

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19

wrote:

>

> Sureshji,thanks for your precious response.The native details are:

> Dob:12/aug/1986

> Tob:08:43am

> Pob:gwalior(m.p)

> :78E10,26N12.

>

> Can u Plz analyse it?

>

> Thanks Again

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag

>

> Wednesday, 24 June, 2009 6:35:41 PM

> Re: which node for rahu/ketu?

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear bansal

>

> One of the way to check such confusions is to check the real life scenario.

>

> I have seen that if ketu is occupying lagna, the native suffers from boils or

reddish / black skin afflictions during childhood in some caseses with oozing

puss. the intensity of affliction or nature, color etc depends on the sign,

malefic or benefic influences etc. But it will be felt in one form or other.

Rahu's influence if placed on the lagna is not so pronounced but may be affected

by weezhing, esonophelia, cough, chest congestions, brochitis etc, again

depending on the amount of affliction. It becomes more evident as the native

aged.

>

> Ketu in the 2nd, being Kutumbha sthana, affects the family. There will be

splits in the family and in some cases even quarels & litigations between the

family members. (ketu is called Kanda karaka. He carries a sword). depending on

the sign / malefic or benefic influences, dasa etc, the nature , period etc

changes (the splits might have occured even before the native birth or shall

occur on a future date.) Again the effect will be evident. Splits in the family

always happen - one brother will have a job in bombay and the other in chennai.

so they might settle in their respective places. This is normal and mostly there

will be reasonably good relatioship between them. But the splits attributed to

Ketu usualy are unpleasent.

>

> Check if you friend had / is undergoing such experiences.

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > In case of retrograde nodes,mean is always suggested as actual positions has

other issues to address

> > vrkrishnan

> >

> > --- On Wed, 6/24/09, pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19@ ...>

> > Re: Re: which node for rahu/ketu?

> >

> > Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 4:52 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks Rohini Sir,for your response.Actually i had a birth data of my freind

in which if we take true node,then ketu/rahu in 1st & 7th house but if mean,then

ketu rahu in 2nd & 8th position in rasi chart.so plz tell me how can i check it?As

i am a beginner in this vast science named'astrology' .

> >

> > Thanks Again

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com>

> >

> > Tuesday, 23 June, 2009 4:49:37 AM

> > Re: which node for rahu/ketu?

> >

> > This is how it works Pankaj ji. There are only two possibilities: True or

Mean. Some will say True others will recommend mean and your confusion will

remain unabated. Let us say you even get some examples from people who recommend

one or the other position, the confusion will remain.

> >

> > Best way to solve such confusions and radically remove the 'dhund' is to

take a few charts and test out which of the nodal positions make more sense and

you will never harbour confusion if you spend the extra time and make a sincere

effort. In doing so, you will begin to see nuances of astrological effect as

well, assuming that you are a beginner and not well-versed in the intricacies of

jyotish analysis. Since the two positions (M vs T) are fairly close, you will be

forced to use finer vargas and that experience will be a bonus in the long run.

People should apply this general approach for all such questions, including

dashas, ayanamshas etc. Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai

babu saheb. Much better than 'processed' prepackaged food with preservatives etc

;-)

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , " pankaj_bansal19 "

<pankaj_bansal19@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello Senior members and Friends,

> > > There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we should use for

rahu/ketu:true/ mean " .plz suggest me?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> >

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Namasthe,

 

Yes, you got it right. As I said, the intensity, nature, reasons may vary

according to the sign , association of planets also.

 

A Banefic in Subha rasi is considered good. He gives good results also in

Ashubha rasi though in a limited way.

 

shubho.ashubharkshe ruchiraM kubhuutale

karoti vrikshaM vipariitamanyathaa (varaha hora ch:3 sloka:6)

 

The malefics gives opposit effects. Ie in Subha sign they are mildly melefic and

malefic they tend to give horrific results. Consider the enemy/friendly / yoga

karaka factors also here.

 

In case of Ketu he is almost like Mars. I have always considered him as an

amplifier- He amplifies evry aspects he comes in contact. He is capable of

creating a Moth hill out of a mole. Hence a small squible among the members of

the family can develop into big problem if influenced by Ketu. The influence of

Ketu can also make a person hyperactive - again amplication. some people

describe problems as if that is the biggest problem in the whole world - again

you might find the influence of ketu's amplification.

 

Hope you are doing fine

with warm regards & take care

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, pdk kotak <ganeshji101 wrote:

>

> Pujay shri sureshbabuag ji,

>  

> when u say ketu in the 2nd house creates the problems in family,

> does it matter which rasi it is  or any rasi - result is the same as u

mentioned

> regards pdk

> --- On Wed, 24/6/09, sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag wrote:

>

>

> sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag

> Re: which node for rahu/ketu?

>

> Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 2:05 PM

>

>

Dear bansal

>

> One of the way to check such confusions is to check the real life scenario.

>

> I have seen that if ketu is occupying lagna, the native suffers from boils or

reddish / black skin afflictions during childhood in some caseses with oozing

puss. the intensity of affliction or nature, color etc depends on the sign,

malefic or benefic influences etc. But it will be felt in one form or other.

Rahu's influence if placed on the lagna is not so pronounced but may be affected

by weezhing, esonophelia, cough, chest congestions, brochitis etc, again

depending on the amount of affliction. It becomes more evident as the native

aged.

>

> Ketu in the 2nd, being Kutumbha sthana, affects the family. There will be

splits in the family and in some cases even quarels & litigations between the

family members. (ketu is called Kanda karaka. He carries a sword). depending on

the sign / malefic or benefic influences, dasa etc, the nature , period etc

changes (the splits might have occured even before the native birth or shall

occur on a future date.) Again the effect will be evident. Splits in the family

always happen - one brother will have a job in bombay and the other in chennai.

so they might settle in their respective places. This is normal and mostly there

will be reasonably good relatioship between them. But the splits attributed to

Ketu usualy are unpleasent.

>

> Check if you friend had / is undergoing such experiences.

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > In case of retrograde nodes,mean is always suggested as actual positions has

other issues to address

> > vrkrishnan

> >

> > --- On Wed, 6/24/09, pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19@ ...>

> > Re: Re: which node for rahu/ketu?

> >

> > Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 4:52 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks Rohini Sir,for your response.Actually i had a birth data of my freind

in which if we take true node,then ketu/rahu in 1st & 7th house but if mean,then

ketu rahu in 2nd & 8th position in rasi chart.so plz tell me how can i check it?As

i am a beginner in this vast science named'astrology' .

> >

> > Thanks Again

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com>

> >

> > Tuesday, 23 June, 2009 4:49:37 AM

> > Re: which node for rahu/ketu?

> >

> > This is how it works Pankaj ji. There are only two possibilities: True or

Mean. Some will say True others will recommend mean and your confusion will

remain unabated. Let us say you even get some examples from people who recommend

one or the other position, the confusion will remain.

> >

> > Best way to solve such confusions and radically remove the 'dhund' is to

take a few charts and test out which of the nodal positions make more sense and

you will never harbour confusion if you spend the extra time and make a sincere

effort. In doing so, you will begin to see nuances of astrological effect as

well, assuming that you are a beginner and not well-versed in the intricacies of

jyotish analysis. Since the two positions (M vs T) are fairly close, you will be

forced to use finer vargas and that experience will be a bonus in the long run.

People should apply this general approach for all such questions, including

dashas, ayanamshas etc. Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai

babu saheb. Much better than 'processed' prepackaged food with preservatives etc

;-)

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , " pankaj_bansal19 "

<pankaj_bansal19@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello Senior members and Friends,

> > > There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we should use for

rahu/ketu:true/ mean " .plz suggest me?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> >

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Pankaj: For this epoch the ayanamsha value I am using is -22:42:31.

Unfortunately, not any significant difference between True and Mean values.

Those using other ayanamshas which move the cuspal longitudes this way or that

way may be able to help you better with your query. Which ayanamsha do you use?

Speaking of vote counts, and putting two and two together one may deduce that a

value used by Surya Siddhanta or close to it may probably be the one that " most "

people use, at least in Hindi-speaking areas of India. Most of these jyotishis

from what we have been told use local panchaangas which do not use Lahiri or

Raman or similar values which quite frankly could be overrepresented in the

relative 'minority' of english-speaking jyotishis that you see on the Internet.

There could be some " sampling bias " if you are going with this as being the

representative of frequency of use of some of these ayanamshas used here.

 

RR

 

, pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19

wrote:

>

> Sureshji,thanks for your precious response.The native details are:

> Dob:12/aug/1986

> Tob:08:43am

> Pob:gwalior(m.p)

> :78E10,26N12.

>

> Can u Plz analyse it?

>

> Thanks Again

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag

>

> Wednesday, 24 June, 2009 6:35:41 PM

> Re: which node for rahu/ketu?

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear bansal

>

> One of the way to check such confusions is to check the real life scenario.

>

> I have seen that if ketu is occupying lagna, the native suffers from boils or

reddish / black skin afflictions during childhood in some caseses with oozing

puss. the intensity of affliction or nature, color etc depends on the sign,

malefic or benefic influences etc. But it will be felt in one form or other.

Rahu's influence if placed on the lagna is not so pronounced but may be affected

by weezhing, esonophelia, cough, chest congestions, brochitis etc, again

depending on the amount of affliction. It becomes more evident as the native

aged.

>

> Ketu in the 2nd, being Kutumbha sthana, affects the family. There will be

splits in the family and in some cases even quarels & litigations between the

family members. (ketu is called Kanda karaka. He carries a sword). depending on

the sign / malefic or benefic influences, dasa etc, the nature , period etc

changes (the splits might have occured even before the native birth or shall

occur on a future date.) Again the effect will be evident. Splits in the family

always happen - one brother will have a job in bombay and the other in chennai.

so they might settle in their respective places. This is normal and mostly there

will be reasonably good relatioship between them. But the splits attributed to

Ketu usualy are unpleasent.

>

> Check if you friend had / is undergoing such experiences.

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > In case of retrograde nodes,mean is always suggested as actual positions has

other issues to address

> > vrkrishnan

> >

> > --- On Wed, 6/24/09, pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19@ ...>

> > Re: Re: which node for rahu/ketu?

> >

> > Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 4:52 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks Rohini Sir,for your response.Actually i had a birth data of my freind

in which if we take true node,then ketu/rahu in 1st & 7th house but if mean,then

ketu rahu in 2nd & 8th position in rasi chart.so plz tell me how can i check it?As

i am a beginner in this vast science named'astrology' .

> >

> > Thanks Again

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com>

> >

> > Tuesday, 23 June, 2009 4:49:37 AM

> > Re: which node for rahu/ketu?

> >

> > This is how it works Pankaj ji. There are only two possibilities: True or

Mean. Some will say True others will recommend mean and your confusion will

remain unabated. Let us say you even get some examples from people who recommend

one or the other position, the confusion will remain.

> >

> > Best way to solve such confusions and radically remove the 'dhund' is to

take a few charts and test out which of the nodal positions make more sense and

you will never harbour confusion if you spend the extra time and make a sincere

effort. In doing so, you will begin to see nuances of astrological effect as

well, assuming that you are a beginner and not well-versed in the intricacies of

jyotish analysis. Since the two positions (M vs T) are fairly close, you will be

forced to use finer vargas and that experience will be a bonus in the long run.

People should apply this general approach for all such questions, including

dashas, ayanamshas etc. Aapnay haath say pakai roti kaa swaad hi kuch aur hai

babu saheb. Much better than 'processed' prepackaged food with preservatives etc

;-)

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , " pankaj_bansal19 "

<pankaj_bansal19@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello Senior members and Friends,

> > > There is a some confusion in my mind about " which node we should use for

rahu/ketu:true/ mean " .plz suggest me?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> >

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