Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Dear Members the death of the PoP Music world so suddenly has shocked the wolrd of instant entertainment as much like is IDOL, ELVIS PREISLEY's a great singer, humanitarian with the LIVE AID concerts concept for the AFRICAN famine relief is a landmark stage professionally and a s a human being where he brought the best of the show biz to perform raise money for relief anyone with his data can use use the following points and coment on the chart for discussion Prashant August 29, 1958: Born in Gary, Indiana. August 1962: Singing debut with his brothers, The Jackson Five. March 1969: First Jackson Five contract with Tamla Motown, Detroit's black-owned record label. Michael's voice propels the group onto the hit parade with " ABC " and " I'll Be There " . 1970: Launch of solo career alongside that of the Jackson Five. August 1979: Release of " Off The Wall " album, produced by Quincy Jones, which sold 11 million copies. December 1982: release of " Thriller " album, whose seven hits included " Billie Jean " and " Beat It, " pushing sales to 50 million copies worldwide. 1984: Jackson's face gets burnt during filming for a Pepsi ad. 1985: Buys ATV Music -- a company with rights to John Lennon and Paul McCartney songs -- for 47.5 million dollars. 1985: Jackson writes " We Are The World, " which benefited the fight against hunger in Africa. 1987: Release of " Bad, " which sold 26 million copies and marked the end of his collaboration with Quincy Jones. 1988: His autobiography " Moonwalk " comes out. 1990: Michael Jackson is seen for the first time wearing a surgical mask in public/ 1992: Release of " Dangerous, " which sold 22 million copies/ August 1993: A father accuses Jackson of molesting his 13-year-old son, but settles out of court/ May 1994: February 1996: marriage to Lisa Marie Presley, daughter of Elvis/ June 1995: Release of " History " album/ November 1996-October 1999: Marriage to Debbie Rowe, a 37-year-old nurse with whom he has two children, Prince Michael and Paris Michael Katherine .. October 2001: Release of " Invincible " . July 2002: Jackson accuses record labels of exploiting artists, especially African-Americans. November 19, 2002: Scandal after Jackson dangles his third son, nine-month-old Prince Michael II, from a Berlin hotel balcony. January 31, 2003: Sotheby's auction house sues for non-payment of 1.7 million dollars for two paintings. February 3: In documentary " Living with Michael Jackson " broadcast on ITV, Jackson claims never to have abused a child, merely to have shared his bed. February: The singer's manager brings a 13-million-dollar lawsuit for back salary, which is settled out of court in June. November 18: Police raid Jackson's Neverland ranch in California as " Number Ones " album is released. November 19: Warrant issued for Jackson's arrest on several counts of child molestation. November 20: Jackson is arrested and handcuffed after surrendering to police, held briefly then released on bail. December 18: Michael Jackson is formally charged with child molestation. January 16, 2004: Jackson pleads not guilty during his first appearance amid a media circus. January 31, 2005: Michael Jackson trial begins with jury selection. February 28, 2005: Opening arguments begin in trial. June 4, 2005: Jurors begin considering their verdict. June 13, 2005: Jackson acquitted on all charges against him. March 5, 2009: Jackson announces series of comeback concerts in London -- billed as the " final curtain " -- his first major shows for more than a decade. May 20, 2009: Jackson delays comeback shows. Concert organizers say singer's health is " fantastic " . June 25, 2009: Jackson dies in Los Angeles. G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Namskara What willbe the birth time i had searched for the birth time - some time back but did not get much reliable information I understand that the nakshatra must be satabhisheka which is owned by rahu Would like inputs from others Thanks Nandana On 26/06/2009, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > Dear Members > > > > Prashant > > August 29, > 1958: Born in Gary, Indiana. > > August 1962: Singing debut > with his brothers, The Jackson Five. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Nandan, well I have always maintainted celebrity, public figures do have several birth times recored/circulated by vested interests so we can surely find many if we search but like Obama he has a long ish face a singer, pouplar person esp with women so must have a good Sukra a celebrity, humaiterian and also a controversial one with Guru+rahu involved the best place for it is 10th a v good Kendra for Guru but with rahu the controversy seems right, I have currently chosen his death time 14.14 hrs LA, CA as a basis and worked backwards so feel he is Makara Lagna born at 18.1 Hrs a well placed chandra in 2nd as 6th lord a career in singing -guru's aspect cud have given the Chandra's role a edge. his humaniterian efforts can be seen from Guru in 10th and also the family life too was disturbed in their childhood so part of the 6th house -ve results were not rediced and had to sffer hi sani dasa is one that elevated him to super human , stardom from Nov 71 his death I take as Ketu-ravi as ravi is 8th lord its commencement on 25/6/09 at 3.25 am LMT has HAD A ROLE sANI OVER THE 8TH HOUSE and 8th lord. ravi must have set the trend for the past months silently as 8th house is sudden, unexpected events sani over ravi a enemy graha could have resulted in his death due to cardiac arrest as claimed in the media. u r free to have ur take as this is more a learningexcercise for all of us with no confirmed birth data and what we can make of him from some sources like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson Best wishes I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 ________________________________ Nandana astro <nandanaastro Friday, June 26, 2009 12:19:00 PM Re: end of a era in PoP music 26/6 Namskara What willbe the birth time i had searched for the birth time - some time back but did not get much reliable information I understand that the nakshatra must be satabhisheka which is owned by rahu Would like inputs from others Thanks Nandana On 26/06/2009, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: > Dear Members > > > > Prashant > > August 29, > 1958: Born in Gary, Indiana. > > August 1962: Singing debut > with his brothers, The Jackson Five. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Namaskar Prashant ji Thanks for the prompt reply. yah as you told to get correct birth details is bit hard. But a few points here to be noted is he is a rahu nakshartra ( the most relabel date of birth of A.r Rahman also give a Rahu owned nakshtra - same is with a few but not all notable music directors/ composers ) Another issue with this chart is Rahu ketu does change with the change of Ayanamsham and also with the change of Mean and True nodes . Jupiter Rahu combination is spl combination. Zubin Mehta does have this combination in Dhanu in the 11th house. ( i don;t have that chart now as i had lost the charts when i reloaded my software but the birth data was reliable) Looking fwd for more inputs and incites Thanks Nandana On 26/06/2009, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > Nandan, > > well I have always maintainted celebrity, public figures do have several > birth times recored/circulated by vested interests so we can surely find > many if we search > > but like Obama he has a long ish face > > a singer, pouplar person esp with women so must have a good Sukra > a celebrity, humaiterian > and also a controversial one > with Guru+rahu involved the best place for it is 10th a v good Kendra for > Guru but with rahu the controversy seems right, > > > I have currently chosen his death time 14.14 hrs LA, CA as a basis and > worked backwards > > so feel he is Makara Lagna born at 18.1 Hrs > > a well placed chandra in 2nd as 6th lord a career in singing -guru's aspect > cud have given the Chandra's role a edge. > > his humaniterian efforts can be seen from Guru in 10th and also the family > life too was disturbed in their childhood so part of the 6th house -ve > results were not rediced and had to sffer > > hi sani dasa is one that elevated him to super human , stardom from Nov 71 > > his death I take as Ketu-ravi as ravi is 8th lord its commencement on > 25/6/09 at 3.25 am LMT has HAD A ROLE sANI OVER THE 8TH HOUSE and 8th lord. > ravi must have set the trend for the past months silently as 8th house is > sudden, unexpected events sani over ravi a enemy graha could have resulted > in his death due to cardiac arrest as claimed in the media. > > u r free to have ur take as this is more a learningexcercise for all of us > with no confirmed birth data > > and what we can make of him from some sources like > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson > > Best wishes > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non > Raman's. > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 > > > > > > ________________________________ > Nandana astro <nandanaastro > > Friday, June 26, 2009 12:19:00 PM > Re: end of a era in PoP music 26/6 > > > > > > Namskara > > What willbe the birth time > i had searched for the birth time - some time back but did not > get much reliable information > I understand that the nakshatra must be satabhisheka which is > owned by rahu > > Would like inputs from others > > Thanks > > Nandana > > On 26/06/2009, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: >> Dear Members >> >> >> >> Prashant >> >> August 29, >> 1958: Born in Gary, Indiana. >> >> August 1962: Singing debut >> with his brothers, The Jackson Five. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 MJ birth details August 29, 1958 Time: ? Place: Gary, Indiana, USA Sudhir Consulting Astrologer -- - Nandana astro gbp_kumar ; Friday, June 26, 2009 4:44 PM Re: end of a era in PoP music 26/6 Namaskar Prashant ji Thanks for the prompt reply. yah as you told to get correct birth details is bit hard. But a few points here to be noted is he is a rahu nakshartra ( the most relabel date of birth of A.r Rahman also give a Rahu owned nakshtra - same is with a few but not all notable music directors/ composers ) Another issue with this chart is Rahu ketu does change with the change of Ayanamsham and also with the change of Mean and True nodes . Jupiter Rahu combination is spl combination. Zubin Mehta does have this combination in Dhanu in the 11th house. ( i don;t have that chart now as i had lost the charts when i reloaded my software but the birth data was reliable) Looking fwd for more inputs and incites Thanks Nandana On 26/06/2009, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > Nandan, > > well I have always maintainted celebrity, public figures do have several > birth times recored/circulated by vested interests so we can surely find > many if we search > > but like Obama he has a long ish face > > a singer, pouplar person esp with women so must have a good Sukra > a celebrity, humaiterian > and also a controversial one > with Guru+rahu involved the best place for it is 10th a v good Kendra for > Guru but with rahu the controversy seems right, > > > I have currently chosen his death time 14.14 hrs LA, CA as a basis and > worked backwards > > so feel he is Makara Lagna born at 18.1 Hrs > > a well placed chandra in 2nd as 6th lord a career in singing -guru's aspect > cud have given the Chandra's role a edge. > > his humaniterian efforts can be seen from Guru in 10th and also the family > life too was disturbed in their childhood so part of the 6th house -ve > results were not rediced and had to sffer > > hi sani dasa is one that elevated him to super human , stardom from Nov 71 > > his death I take as Ketu-ravi as ravi is 8th lord its commencement on > 25/6/09 at 3.25 am LMT has HAD A ROLE sANI OVER THE 8TH HOUSE and 8th lord. > ravi must have set the trend for the past months silently as 8th house is > sudden, unexpected events sani over ravi a enemy graha could have resulted > in his death due to cardiac arrest as claimed in the media. > > u r free to have ur take as this is more a learningexcercise for all of us > with no confirmed birth data > > and what we can make of him from some sources like > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson > > Best wishes > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non > Raman's. > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 > > > > > > ________________________________ > Nandana astro <nandanaastro > > Friday, June 26, 2009 12:19:00 PM > Re: end of a era in PoP music 26/6 > > > > > > Namskara > > What willbe the birth time > i had searched for the birth time - some time back but did not > get much reliable information > I understand that the nakshatra must be satabhisheka which is > owned by rahu > > Would like inputs from others > > Thanks > > Nandana > > On 26/06/2009, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: >> Dear Members >> >> >> >> Prashant >> >> August 29, >> 1958: Born in Gary, Indiana. >> >> August 1962: Singing debut >> with his brothers, The Jackson Five. >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Dear Sudhir I tried 18.01 Hrs as said in my reply to nandana for whatever reasons I explained u can try it from what u can make of his life, events, death again do say celebrity data is a slippery one so w we can try our bit to relate both astrology and what we know in a humble way could be right or wrong. if we explain it in some way does help many new comers to analyse data , events for time of birth missing ppl. best wishes G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 ________________________________ sudhir <taurus.sudhir Friday, June 26, 2009 7:48:07 PM Re: end of a era in PoP music 26/6 MJ birth details August 29, 1958 Time: ? Place: Gary, Indiana, USA Sudhir Consulting Astrologer ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - - Nandana astro gbp_kumar ; Friday, June 26, 2009 4:44 PM Re: end of a era in PoP music 26/6 Namaskar Prashant ji Thanks for the prompt reply. yah as you told to get correct birth details is bit hard. But a few points here to be noted is he is a rahu nakshartra ( the most relabel date of birth of A.r Rahman also give a Rahu owned nakshtra - same is with a few but not all notable music directors/ composers ) Another issue with this chart is Rahu ketu does change with the change of Ayanamsham and also with the change of Mean and True nodes . Jupiter Rahu combination is spl combination. Zubin Mehta does have this combination in Dhanu in the 11th house. ( i don;t have that chart now as i had lost the charts when i reloaded my software but the birth data was reliable) Looking fwd for more inputs and incites Thanks Nandana On 26/06/2009, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: > Nandan, > > well I have always maintainted celebrity, public figures do have several > birth times recored/circulated by vested interests so we can surely find > many if we search > > but like Obama he has a long ish face > > a singer, pouplar person esp with women so must have a good Sukra > a celebrity, humaiterian > and also a controversial one > with Guru+rahu involved the best place for it is 10th a v good Kendra for > Guru but with rahu the controversy seems right, > > > I have currently chosen his death time 14.14 hrs LA, CA as a basis and > worked backwards > > so feel he is Makara Lagna born at 18.1 Hrs > > a well placed chandra in 2nd as 6th lord a career in singing -guru's aspect > cud have given the Chandra's role a edge. > > his humaniterian efforts can be seen from Guru in 10th and also the family > life too was disturbed in their childhood so part of the 6th house -ve > results were not rediced and had to sffer > > hi sani dasa is one that elevated him to super human , stardom from Nov 71 > > his death I take as Ketu-ravi as ravi is 8th lord its commencement on > 25/6/09 at 3.25 am LMT has HAD A ROLE sANI OVER THE 8TH HOUSE and 8th lord. > ravi must have set the trend for the past months silently as 8th house is > sudden, unexpected events sani over ravi a enemy graha could have resulted > in his death due to cardiac arrest as claimed in the media. > > u r free to have ur take as this is more a learningexcercise for all of us > with no confirmed birth data > > and what we can make of him from some sources like > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Michael_Jackson > > Best wishes > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non > Raman's. > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Nandana astro <nandanaastro@ gmail.com> > > Friday, June 26, 2009 12:19:00 PM > Re: end of a era in PoP music 26/6 > > > > > > Namskara > > What willbe the birth time > i had searched for the birth time - some time back but did not > get much reliable information > I understand that the nakshatra must be satabhisheka which is > owned by rahu > > Would like inputs from others > > Thanks > > Nandana > > On 26/06/2009, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: >> Dear Members >> >> >> >> Prashant >> >> August 29, >> 1958: Born in Gary, Indiana. >> >> August 1962: Singing debut >> with his brothers, The Jackson Five. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Namakar sir http://www.metalifecycles.com/MLC_Michael_H.htm http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/vJ3pEYk9DzLU.htm Both sites don't give any source or rating so not much reliable - what ever be the lagan - rahu does have big role here as nakshtra lord is Rahu and even if mean or true nodes are use rahu ketu are vargottama in chitra nakshatra would like to hear more Thanks Nandana On 26/06/2009, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Dear Sudhir > > I tried 18.01 Hrs as said in my reply to nandana for whatever reasons I > explained u can try it from what u can make of his life, events, death > again do say celebrity data is a slippery one so w we can try our bit to > relate both astrology and what we know in a humble way could be right or > wrong. > if we explain it in some way does help many new comers to analyse data , > events for time of birth missing ppl. > > > best wishes > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 celebrity charts can never be discussed. I came across many BTs for MJ. I am reproducing one analysis of his chart by PVR, SJC guru, as discussed in his classes. 1. Puzzle: Male born on August 29, 1958, 11:44 P.M. (5 Hrs West of GMT), Gary, Indiana, USA (87W20'47 " , 41N35'36 " ). [Please note the time zone is 5 hrs west and not 6 hrs west as given in the Jagannatha Hora]. Find from the D-10 his likely career. This person is Michael Jackson. He is fighting litigation at present. From Tithi Pravesha (2004-2005) Chart, will this person go to jail during this period? Hora Lord Ma indicated main events of the year. It is 5L and 12L placed with 9L Su and 7L Me in the 9H (Leo) – protection. Bandhana Sahamam is at the end of Cp; its lord Sa doesn't have a strong connection with the 12th L or H. 10. From the Tithi Pravesha (2005-2006) Chart, Sa is Hora Lord, 6L and 7L in 12H in parivartana with Mo. Ra is very close to Bandhana Sahamam in Pi in 8H. Chances of imprisonment are there but are weak. 11. From the Tithi Pravesha (2006-2007) Chart, Hora Lord and LL Me is in 12H with 12L Su and Ve (Bandhana Sahamam Lord). There is a strong connection for imprisonment. This is similar to Swami Jayendra Saraswati's chart. Here Su is likely to cause imprisonment. The order of maleficence is Ve<Me<Su. So Su can (but doesn't have to) exchange its results with Ve. 12. In natal D-10 Chart, none of the conditional dasas are applicable. Use Vimsottari Dasa. Present Mahadasa lord is Me. Me is 5th from AL and hence enhances the image. Planets in the 5H from AL give a boost to the image and in the 9H from AL protects/maintains the image. 13. In the Rasi Chart, Me is in Raja yoga (4L and 5L) with Su in the 4H – Sri Vishnu's blessings. Next Mahadasa is Ke starting from Feb 28, 2006. Ke is a malefic in the 12H with its lord (Ma) – likely to give imprisonment in Ke dasa. 12L alone in 12H forms a good yoga, Vimala Yoga. But with other planets can cause problems like huge expenses/hospitalization/imprisonment i.e. 12H significance of some kind of giving-up of things important to the person. GL in 12H shows the event of imprisonment will be famous. Ke in 12H can also signify some spiritual development. This can be verified from D-20. 14. Ke dasa runs till 2013. Chances of getting out of prison are very slim till the next Dasa which is Ve. Ve dasa is very promising for a new lease of life/career. Ve is LL well placed in the 3H. Ve is also giving Raja yoga in the D-10. HE IS SUPPOSED TO RETURN AND HAVE A NICE CAREER AFTER 2013. BUT ONLY IF HE HAD SURVIVED!!! IT IS A GOOD LESSON FOR ME ATLEAST. NEVER TO WORK ON CHARTS WITH UNKNOWN BT. BT SHOUILD NOT BE ARRTVED AT FROM THE EVENTS OF LIFE. MAN PROPOSES BUT GOD DISPOSES Gurushanker , Nandana astro <nandanaastro wrote: > > Namakar sir > > http://www.metalifecycles.com/MLC_Michael_H.htm > > http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/vJ3pEYk9DzLU.htm > > Both sites don't give any source or rating so not much reliable > > > - what ever be the lagan - rahu does have big role here as nakshtra lord > is Rahu and even if mean or true nodes are use rahu ketu are > vargottama in chitra nakshatra > > > > would like to hear more > > > Thanks > Nandana > > > On 26/06/2009, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > > > Dear Sudhir > > > > I tried 18.01 Hrs as said in my reply to nandana for whatever reasons I > > explained u can try it from what u can make of his life, events, death > > again do say celebrity data is a slippery one so w we can try our bit to > > relate both astrology and what we know in a humble way could be right or > > wrong. > > if we explain it in some way does help many new comers to analyse data , > > events for time of birth missing ppl. > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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