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Dear Members

 

the death of the PoP Music world so suddenly has shocked the wolrd of instant

entertainment as much like is IDOL, ELVIS PREISLEY's

 

a great singer, humanitarian with the LIVE AID concerts concept for the AFRICAN

famine relief is a landmark stage professionally and a s a human being where he

brought the best of the show biz to perform raise money for relief

 

anyone with his data can use use the following points and coment on the chart

for discussion

 

Prashant

 

August 29,

1958: Born in Gary, Indiana.

 

August 1962: Singing debut

with his brothers, The Jackson Five.

 

March 1969: First Jackson

Five contract with Tamla Motown, Detroit's black-owned record label. Michael's

voice propels the group onto the hit parade with " ABC " and " I'll Be

There " .

 

1970: Launch of solo

career alongside that of the Jackson Five.

 

August 1979: Release of " Off

The Wall " album, produced by Quincy Jones, which sold 11 million copies.

 

December 1982: release of

" Thriller " album, whose seven hits included " Billie Jean " and " Beat It, " pushing

sales to 50 million copies worldwide.

 

1984: Jackson's face gets

burnt during filming for a Pepsi ad.

 

1985: Buys ATV Music -- a

company with rights to John Lennon and Paul McCartney songs -- for 47.5 million

dollars.

 

1985: Jackson

writes " We Are The World, " which benefited the fight against hunger in Africa.

 

1987: Release of " Bad, "

which sold 26 million copies and marked the end of his collaboration with Quincy

Jones.

 

1988: His

autobiography " Moonwalk " comes out.

 

1990: Michael Jackson is

seen for the first time wearing a surgical mask in public/

 

1992: Release of

" Dangerous, " which sold 22 million copies/

 

August 1993: A father

accuses Jackson of molesting his 13-year-old son, but settles out of court/

 

May 1994: February 1996:

marriage to Lisa Marie Presley, daughter of Elvis/

 

June 1995: Release of

" History " album/

 

November

1996-October 1999: Marriage to Debbie Rowe, a 37-year-old nurse with whom

he has two children, Prince Michael and Paris Michael Katherine

..

October 2001: Release of

" Invincible " .

 

July 2002: Jackson accuses record labels of exploiting artists, especially

African-Americans.

 

November 19,

2002: Scandal after Jackson dangles his third son, nine-month-old Prince

Michael II, from a Berlin hotel balcony.

 

January 31, 2003: Sotheby's

auction house sues for non-payment of 1.7 million dollars for two paintings.

 

February 3: In documentary " Living with Michael Jackson " broadcast on ITV,

Jackson claims never to have

abused a child, merely to have shared his bed.

 

February: The singer's manager brings a 13-million-dollar lawsuit for back

salary, which is settled out

of court in June.

 

November

18: Police raid Jackson's Neverland ranch in California as " Number Ones "

album is released.

 

November

19: Warrant issued for Jackson's arrest on several counts of child

molestation.

 

November 20: Jackson is arrested and handcuffed after surrendering to police,

held briefly

then released on bail.

 

December

18: Michael Jackson is formally charged with child molestation.

 

January 16, 2004: Jackson

pleads not guilty during his first appearance amid a media circus.

 

January 31, 2005: Michael

Jackson trial begins with jury selection.

 

February 28, 2005: Opening

arguments begin in trial.

 

June 4,

2005: Jurors begin considering their verdict.

 

June 13, 2005: Jackson

acquitted on all charges against him.

 

March 5, 2009: Jackson

announces series of comeback concerts in London -- billed as the " final curtain "

-- his first major shows for more than a decade.

 

May 20, 2009: Jackson delays

comeback shows. Concert organizers say singer's health is " fantastic " .

 

June 25, 2009: Jackson dies

in Los Angeles.

 

 

 

G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

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Namskara

 

What willbe the birth time

i had searched for the birth time - some time back but did not

get much reliable information

I understand that the nakshatra must be satabhisheka which is

owned by rahu

 

 

Would like inputs from others

 

Thanks

 

Nandana

 

On 26/06/2009, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

> Dear Members

>

>

>

> Prashant

>

> August 29,

> 1958: Born in Gary, Indiana.

>

> August 1962: Singing debut

> with his brothers, The Jackson Five.

>

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Nandan,

 

well I have always maintainted celebrity, public figures do have several birth

times recored/circulated by vested interests so we can surely find many if we

search

 

but like Obama he has a long ish face

 

a singer, pouplar person esp with women so must have a good Sukra

a celebrity, humaiterian

and also a controversial one

with Guru+rahu involved the best place for it is 10th a v good Kendra for Guru

but with rahu the controversy seems right,

 

 

I have currently chosen his death time 14.14 hrs LA, CA as a basis and worked

backwards

 

so feel he is Makara Lagna born at 18.1 Hrs

 

a well placed chandra in 2nd as 6th lord a career in singing -guru's aspect cud

have given the Chandra's role a edge.

 

his humaniterian efforts can be seen from Guru in 10th and also the family life

too was disturbed in their childhood so part of the 6th house -ve results were

not rediced and had to sffer

 

hi sani dasa is one that elevated him to super human , stardom from Nov 71

 

his death I take as Ketu-ravi as ravi is 8th lord its commencement on 25/6/09 at

3.25 am LMT has HAD A ROLE sANI OVER THE 8TH HOUSE and 8th lord.

ravi must have set the trend for the past months silently as 8th house is

sudden, unexpected events sani over ravi a enemy graha could have resulted in

his death due to cardiac arrest as claimed in the media.

 

u r free to have ur take as this is more a learningexcercise for all of us

with no confirmed birth data

 

and what we can make of him from some sources like

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson

 

Best wishes

 

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's.

 

G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Nandana astro <nandanaastro

 

Friday, June 26, 2009 12:19:00 PM

Re: end of a era in PoP music 26/6

 

 

 

 

 

Namskara

 

What willbe the birth time

i had searched for the birth time - some time back but did not

get much reliable information

I understand that the nakshatra must be satabhisheka which is

owned by rahu

 

Would like inputs from others

 

Thanks

 

Nandana

 

On 26/06/2009, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote:

> Dear Members

>

>

>

> Prashant

>

> August 29,

> 1958: Born in Gary, Indiana.

>

> August 1962: Singing debut

> with his brothers, The Jackson Five.

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Namaskar Prashant ji

 

Thanks for the prompt reply.

 

yah as you told to get correct birth details is bit hard.

 

But a few points here to be noted is he is a rahu nakshartra ( the

most relabel date of birth of A.r Rahman also give a Rahu owned

nakshtra - same is with a few but not all notable music

directors/ composers )

 

Another issue with this chart is Rahu ketu does change with the

change of Ayanamsham and also with the change of Mean and True

nodes . Jupiter Rahu combination is spl combination.

Zubin Mehta does have this combination in Dhanu in the 11th house.

( i don;t have that chart now as i had lost the charts when i

reloaded my software but the birth data was reliable)

 

 

Looking fwd for more inputs and incites

 

 

Thanks

Nandana

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 26/06/2009, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

> Nandan,

>

> well I have always maintainted celebrity, public figures do have several

> birth times recored/circulated by vested interests so we can surely find

> many if we search

>

> but like Obama he has a long ish face

>

> a singer, pouplar person esp with women so must have a good Sukra

> a celebrity, humaiterian

> and also a controversial one

> with Guru+rahu involved the best place for it is 10th a v good Kendra for

> Guru but with rahu the controversy seems right,

>

>

> I have currently chosen his death time 14.14 hrs LA, CA as a basis and

> worked backwards

>

> so feel he is Makara Lagna born at 18.1 Hrs

>

> a well placed chandra in 2nd as 6th lord a career in singing -guru's aspect

> cud have given the Chandra's role a edge.

>

> his humaniterian efforts can be seen from Guru in 10th and also the family

> life too was disturbed in their childhood so part of the 6th house -ve

> results were not rediced and had to sffer

>

> hi sani dasa is one that elevated him to super human , stardom from Nov 71

>

> his death I take as Ketu-ravi as ravi is 8th lord its commencement on

> 25/6/09 at 3.25 am LMT has HAD A ROLE sANI OVER THE 8TH HOUSE and 8th lord.

> ravi must have set the trend for the past months silently as 8th house is

> sudden, unexpected events sani over ravi a enemy graha could have resulted

> in his death due to cardiac arrest as claimed in the media.

>

> u r free to have ur take as this is more a learningexcercise for all of us

> with no confirmed birth data

>

> and what we can make of him from some sources like

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson

>

> Best wishes

>

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

> Raman's.

>

> G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

>

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Nandana astro <nandanaastro

>

> Friday, June 26, 2009 12:19:00 PM

> Re: end of a era in PoP music 26/6

>

>

>

>

>

> Namskara

>

> What willbe the birth time

> i had searched for the birth time - some time back but did not

> get much reliable information

> I understand that the nakshatra must be satabhisheka which is

> owned by rahu

>

> Would like inputs from others

>

> Thanks

>

> Nandana

>

> On 26/06/2009, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote:

>> Dear Members

>>

>>

>>

>> Prashant

>>

>> August 29,

>> 1958: Born in Gary, Indiana.

>>

>> August 1962: Singing debut

>> with his brothers, The Jackson Five.

>>

 

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MJ birth details

 

August 29, 1958

Time: ?

Place: Gary, Indiana, USA

 

Sudhir

Consulting Astrologer

 

 

--

 

 

-

Nandana astro

gbp_kumar ;

Friday, June 26, 2009 4:44 PM

Re: end of a era in PoP music 26/6

 

 

 

 

 

Namaskar Prashant ji

 

Thanks for the prompt reply.

 

yah as you told to get correct birth details is bit hard.

 

But a few points here to be noted is he is a rahu nakshartra ( the

most relabel date of birth of A.r Rahman also give a Rahu owned

nakshtra - same is with a few but not all notable music

directors/ composers )

 

Another issue with this chart is Rahu ketu does change with the

change of Ayanamsham and also with the change of Mean and True

nodes . Jupiter Rahu combination is spl combination.

Zubin Mehta does have this combination in Dhanu in the 11th house.

( i don;t have that chart now as i had lost the charts when i

reloaded my software but the birth data was reliable)

 

Looking fwd for more inputs and incites

 

Thanks

Nandana

 

On 26/06/2009, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

> Nandan,

>

> well I have always maintainted celebrity, public figures do have several

> birth times recored/circulated by vested interests so we can surely find

> many if we search

>

> but like Obama he has a long ish face

>

> a singer, pouplar person esp with women so must have a good Sukra

> a celebrity, humaiterian

> and also a controversial one

> with Guru+rahu involved the best place for it is 10th a v good Kendra for

> Guru but with rahu the controversy seems right,

>

>

> I have currently chosen his death time 14.14 hrs LA, CA as a basis and

> worked backwards

>

> so feel he is Makara Lagna born at 18.1 Hrs

>

> a well placed chandra in 2nd as 6th lord a career in singing -guru's aspect

> cud have given the Chandra's role a edge.

>

> his humaniterian efforts can be seen from Guru in 10th and also the family

> life too was disturbed in their childhood so part of the 6th house -ve

> results were not rediced and had to sffer

>

> hi sani dasa is one that elevated him to super human , stardom from Nov 71

>

> his death I take as Ketu-ravi as ravi is 8th lord its commencement on

> 25/6/09 at 3.25 am LMT has HAD A ROLE sANI OVER THE 8TH HOUSE and 8th lord.

> ravi must have set the trend for the past months silently as 8th house is

> sudden, unexpected events sani over ravi a enemy graha could have resulted

> in his death due to cardiac arrest as claimed in the media.

>

> u r free to have ur take as this is more a learningexcercise for all of us

> with no confirmed birth data

>

> and what we can make of him from some sources like

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson

>

> Best wishes

>

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

> Raman's.

>

> G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

>

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Nandana astro <nandanaastro

>

> Friday, June 26, 2009 12:19:00 PM

> Re: end of a era in PoP music 26/6

>

>

>

>

>

> Namskara

>

> What willbe the birth time

> i had searched for the birth time - some time back but did not

> get much reliable information

> I understand that the nakshatra must be satabhisheka which is

> owned by rahu

>

> Would like inputs from others

>

> Thanks

>

> Nandana

>

> On 26/06/2009, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote:

>> Dear Members

>>

>>

>>

>> Prashant

>>

>> August 29,

>> 1958: Born in Gary, Indiana.

>>

>> August 1962: Singing debut

>> with his brothers, The Jackson Five.

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Sudhir

 

I tried 18.01 Hrs as said in my reply to nandana for whatever reasons I

explained u can try it from what u can make of his life, events, death

again do say celebrity data is a slippery one so w we can try our bit to relate

both astrology and what we know in a humble way could be right or wrong.

if we explain it in some way does help many new comers to analyse data , events

for time of birth missing ppl.

 

 

best wishes

 

 

G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

sudhir <taurus.sudhir

 

Friday, June 26, 2009 7:48:07 PM

Re: end of a era in PoP music 26/6

 

 

 

 

 

MJ birth details

 

August 29, 1958

Time: ?

Place: Gary, Indiana, USA

 

Sudhir

Consulting Astrologer

 

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

 

-

Nandana astro

gbp_kumar ;

Friday, June 26, 2009 4:44 PM

Re: end of a era in PoP music 26/6

 

Namaskar Prashant ji

 

Thanks for the prompt reply.

 

yah as you told to get correct birth details is bit hard.

 

But a few points here to be noted is he is a rahu nakshartra ( the

most relabel date of birth of A.r Rahman also give a Rahu owned

nakshtra - same is with a few but not all notable music

directors/ composers )

 

Another issue with this chart is Rahu ketu does change with the

change of Ayanamsham and also with the change of Mean and True

nodes . Jupiter Rahu combination is spl combination.

Zubin Mehta does have this combination in Dhanu in the 11th house.

( i don;t have that chart now as i had lost the charts when i

reloaded my software but the birth data was reliable)

 

Looking fwd for more inputs and incites

 

Thanks

Nandana

 

On 26/06/2009, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote:

> Nandan,

>

> well I have always maintainted celebrity, public figures do have several

> birth times recored/circulated by vested interests so we can surely find

> many if we search

>

> but like Obama he has a long ish face

>

> a singer, pouplar person esp with women so must have a good Sukra

> a celebrity, humaiterian

> and also a controversial one

> with Guru+rahu involved the best place for it is 10th a v good Kendra for

> Guru but with rahu the controversy seems right,

>

>

> I have currently chosen his death time 14.14 hrs LA, CA as a basis and

> worked backwards

>

> so feel he is Makara Lagna born at 18.1 Hrs

>

> a well placed chandra in 2nd as 6th lord a career in singing -guru's aspect

> cud have given the Chandra's role a edge.

>

> his humaniterian efforts can be seen from Guru in 10th and also the family

> life too was disturbed in their childhood so part of the 6th house -ve

> results were not rediced and had to sffer

>

> hi sani dasa is one that elevated him to super human , stardom from Nov 71

>

> his death I take as Ketu-ravi as ravi is 8th lord its commencement on

> 25/6/09 at 3.25 am LMT has HAD A ROLE sANI OVER THE 8TH HOUSE and 8th lord.

> ravi must have set the trend for the past months silently as 8th house is

> sudden, unexpected events sani over ravi a enemy graha could have resulted

> in his death due to cardiac arrest as claimed in the media.

>

> u r free to have ur take as this is more a learningexcercise for all of us

> with no confirmed birth data

>

> and what we can make of him from some sources like

> http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Michael_Jackson

>

> Best wishes

>

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

> Raman's.

>

> G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Nandana astro <nandanaastro@ gmail.com>

>

> Friday, June 26, 2009 12:19:00 PM

> Re: end of a era in PoP music 26/6

>

>

>

>

>

> Namskara

>

> What willbe the birth time

> i had searched for the birth time - some time back but did not

> get much reliable information

> I understand that the nakshatra must be satabhisheka which is

> owned by rahu

>

> Would like inputs from others

>

> Thanks

>

> Nandana

>

> On 26/06/2009, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote:

>> Dear Members

>>

>>

>>

>> Prashant

>>

>> August 29,

>> 1958: Born in Gary, Indiana.

>>

>> August 1962: Singing debut

>> with his brothers, The Jackson Five.

>>

 

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Namakar sir

 

http://www.metalifecycles.com/MLC_Michael_H.htm

 

http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/vJ3pEYk9DzLU.htm

 

Both sites don't give any source or rating so not much reliable

 

 

- what ever be the lagan - rahu does have big role here as nakshtra lord

is Rahu and even if mean or true nodes are use rahu ketu are

vargottama in chitra nakshatra

 

 

 

would like to hear more

 

 

Thanks

Nandana

 

 

On 26/06/2009, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Dear Sudhir

>

> I tried 18.01 Hrs as said in my reply to nandana for whatever reasons I

> explained u can try it from what u can make of his life, events, death

> again do say celebrity data is a slippery one so w we can try our bit to

> relate both astrology and what we know in a humble way could be right or

> wrong.

> if we explain it in some way does help many new comers to analyse data ,

> events for time of birth missing ppl.

>

>

> best wishes

>

>

 

 

 

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celebrity charts can never be discussed. I came across many BTs for MJ. I am

reproducing one analysis of his chart by PVR, SJC guru, as discussed in his

classes.

 

1. Puzzle: Male born on August 29, 1958, 11:44 P.M. (5 Hrs West

of GMT), Gary, Indiana, USA (87W20'47 " , 41N35'36 " ). [Please

note the time zone is 5 hrs west and not 6 hrs west as given in

the Jagannatha Hora]. Find from the D-10 his likely career.

 

This person is Michael Jackson. He is fighting litigation at

present. From Tithi Pravesha (2004-2005) Chart, will this person

go to jail during this period? Hora Lord Ma indicated main events

of the year. It is 5L and 12L placed with 9L Su and 7L Me in the

9H (Leo) – protection. Bandhana Sahamam is at the end of Cp;

its lord Sa doesn't have a strong connection with the 12th L or H.

10. From the Tithi Pravesha (2005-2006) Chart, Sa is Hora Lord, 6L

and 7L in 12H in parivartana with Mo. Ra is very close to

Bandhana Sahamam in Pi in 8H. Chances of imprisonment are

there but are weak.

 

11. From the Tithi Pravesha (2006-2007) Chart, Hora Lord and LL

Me is in 12H with 12L Su and Ve (Bandhana Sahamam Lord).

There is a strong connection for imprisonment. This is similar to

Swami Jayendra Saraswati's chart. Here Su is likely to cause

imprisonment. The order of maleficence is Ve<Me<Su. So Su

can (but doesn't have to) exchange its results with Ve.

12. In natal D-10 Chart, none of the conditional dasas are

applicable. Use Vimsottari Dasa. Present Mahadasa lord is Me.

Me is 5th from AL and hence enhances the image. Planets in the

5H from AL give a boost to the image and in the 9H from AL

protects/maintains the image.

 

13. In the Rasi Chart, Me is in Raja yoga (4L and 5L) with Su in the

4H – Sri Vishnu's blessings. Next Mahadasa is Ke starting from

Feb 28, 2006. Ke is a malefic in the 12H with its lord (Ma) –

likely to give imprisonment in Ke dasa. 12L alone in 12H forms a

good yoga, Vimala Yoga. But with other planets can cause

problems like huge expenses/hospitalization/imprisonment i.e.

12H significance of some kind of giving-up of things important to

the person. GL in 12H shows the event of imprisonment will be

famous. Ke in 12H can also signify some spiritual development.

This can be verified from D-20.

 

14. Ke dasa runs till 2013. Chances of getting out of prison are very

slim till the next Dasa which is Ve. Ve dasa is very promising for

a new lease of life/career. Ve is LL well placed in the 3H. Ve is

also giving Raja yoga in the D-10.

 

HE IS SUPPOSED TO RETURN AND HAVE A NICE CAREER AFTER 2013. BUT ONLY IF HE HAD

SURVIVED!!! IT IS A GOOD LESSON FOR ME ATLEAST. NEVER TO WORK ON CHARTS WITH

UNKNOWN BT. BT SHOUILD NOT BE ARRTVED AT FROM THE EVENTS OF LIFE. MAN PROPOSES

BUT GOD DISPOSES

 

Gurushanker

 

 

, Nandana astro <nandanaastro wrote:

>

> Namakar sir

>

> http://www.metalifecycles.com/MLC_Michael_H.htm

>

> http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/vJ3pEYk9DzLU.htm

>

> Both sites don't give any source or rating so not much reliable

>

>

> - what ever be the lagan - rahu does have big role here as nakshtra lord

> is Rahu and even if mean or true nodes are use rahu ketu are

> vargottama in chitra nakshatra

>

>

>

> would like to hear more

>

>

> Thanks

> Nandana

>

>

> On 26/06/2009, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sudhir

> >

> > I tried 18.01 Hrs as said in my reply to nandana for whatever reasons I

> > explained u can try it from what u can make of his life, events, death

> > again do say celebrity data is a slippery one so w we can try our bit to

> > relate both astrology and what we know in a humble way could be right or

> > wrong.

> > if we explain it in some way does help many new comers to analyse data ,

> > events for time of birth missing ppl.

> >

> >

> > best wishes

> >

> >

>

>

>

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