Astrology -- Conditions for Predicting AccuratelY -

July 13, 2009

Pujay shri Rohinida and Vinay ji,

Please forgive me to trouble u - can u suggest what is the best period of night

to do the Japa - pranamas pdk

--- On Mon, 13/7/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

Re: Astrology -- Conditions for Predicting Accurately

Monday, 13 July, 2009, 9:18 AM

Dear Vinay-ji,

What I/We-all just read from you, quoted below: Was that telepathy or amauna

writing?

And earlier postings ...?

Rohinida

, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote:

>

> A hermit who breaks his vow is not a hermit.

>

> Quiet Japa which I incessantly perform even at night is Amauna, according to

Yaajnavalkya. Writing is amauna.

>

> Mauna is Samaadhi. Mauna is deduced from mana and manana. When Mana settles

down to contemplate on Truth, it is mauna.

>

> Samaadhi is sama state of mana. All other states are mental vyaadhi.

>

> -VJ

>

> ============ === ==

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

>

> Monday, July 13, 2009 10:24:30 AM

> Re: Astrology -- Conditions for Predicting Accurately

>

> When a hermit who has taken a vow of silence, speaks up

> Has he broken his solemn vow?

> Or just being unjustly attacked??

>

> It is but human to share ...

> For we never get disconnected from or forget who we began as...

> Humans first, always ... till we meet our end, monks and merchants!

>

> RR

>

> When , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ....>

wrote:

> >

> > Rohini Da,

> >

> > I know what you say, but I cannot follow the times. I must always be

serious, like a child who is serious in its plays.

> >

> > Not only internet, but all other channels are equally unfit for

communication. That is why monks take a recourse to Mauna. Yajnavalkya defined

Mauna not as keeping quiet, but as a state of mind which is beyond the state

that thinks in terms of words, and relishes in Pure Consciousness, untarnished

with words which communicate everything but Pure Consciousness. I had written a

Hindi poem in 1985 which had these lines :

> >

> > mera sirf utnaa hi hissaa abhivyakta ho paataa hai / jo vaastava me mera

nahi hotaa

> > Sisyphus ki tarah abhishapta hoon is 'main' ko akele dhone ke liye.

> >

> > Words express only the " signifying chain " in terms of Jaques Lacan.

> >

> > -VJ

> >

> > ============ ========= ==

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> >

> > Monday, July 13, 2009 9:31:06 AM

> > Re: Astrology -- Conditions for Predicting Accurately

> >

> > Vinay-ji,

> >

> > I remind you again as I have consistently stated earlier: Internet is not

meant for serious conversations :-)

> >

> > Sometimes I even doubt its sincerity ;-)

> >

> > Ants are conservative by experience!

> >

> > It pains my heart to see that most otherwise WISE and high-functioning

individuals do not get that simple truth!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Rohini Da,

> > >

> > > I learnt some Greek while doing research on comparative linguistics, but

your Greek is not koine, it is Spartan (Laconic), because you always spare the

details, perhaps rightly.

> > >

> > > -VJ

> > > ============ ========= = ==

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > >

> > > Sunday, July 12, 2009 3:59:41 PM

> > > Re: Astrology -- Conditions for Predicting Accurately

> > >

> > > Dear Vinay Ji,

> > >

> > > Once I was alone! I experienced that when I was a teenager. The first time

when the family I was raised in had to split. Just because Dada had to finish

his work and thesis and so on. We were travelling by car and towards Gujrat that

summer. I will skip the bad parts experienced and get to the crux! Dwarka --

there was a dak-banglaa we were housed in and there was a natural beach behind

it. No sand back in those days, just boulders and the Sea! And the lighthouse

of-course!

> > >

> > > I will spare the details but it is amazing how suddenly TIME escapes as if

it never existed!

> > >

> > > It never did! That is why funerals and memorials are important!!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " vinayjhaa16 " <vinayjhaa16@

....> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > RR Ji,

> > > >

> > > > <<<

> > > > Why do they seek out those for guidance, that have none of these five

> > > > requirements?

> > > > >>>

> > > >

> > > > Those who follow the strictures of shaastras in practical life have to

> > > > live alone now-a-days. The last chapter of Shrimad-Bhaagavata says that

> > > > an ignorant disciple prefers an ignorant guru (and keeps away from the

> > > > real guru). When Grahas are too bad, one finds bad astrologers, who

> > > > suggest wrong remedies. After all, fruits of karmas must be borne. Those

> > > > who cannot perform corretives due to defects in their own character are

> > > > sent by God to bad astrologers. People want to cheat planets by means of

> > > > gems or by asking pandits do do japa, instead of improving their future

> > > > karmas and ameliorate the past fruits through japa and tapa. I wonder

> > > > where gems fit in the theory of karma which is the basis of jyotisha.

> > > >

> > > > -VJ

> > > > ============ ======== =

> > > > , " Rohiniranjan "

> > > > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vinay-Jee,

> > > > >

> > > > > You state:

> > > > >

> > > > > "

> > > > > (1) skill in mathematics,

> > > > > (2) grammar,

> > > > > (3) dialectics of Nyaaya,

> > > > > (4) knowledge of geography, space and time,

> > > > > (5) skilfully logical (in estimation)

> > > > > "

> > > > >

> > > > > Where in this scheme that you extracted is the human being expressed?

> > > > The ordinary householder for whom alone was Jyotish created? The folks

> > > > that seek readings and advice about their problems and so on, as

> > > > visualized daily on this forum and many others similar?

> > > > >

> > > > > Why do they seek out those for guidance, that have none of these five

> > > > requirements? Are the accreditating bodies that dictated these

> > > > requirements mistaken or the requirements themselves are?

> > > > >

> > > > > Just a thought -- not even a question!

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

July 13, 2009

Grihasthas normally do not do japa at night. Turiya Sandhyaa at night is

prescribed to loners, because it disturbs the normal routine.

Vedic mantras can be chanted until after 3 ghatis from Sunset, and

Braahma-muhurta is regarded as the best period for japa which starts 3 ghatis

before sunrise : one ghati is of 24 minutes.

Japa of mantras like Gaayatri at midnight is only for real sanyaasis who have

nothing to do with any sort of maayaa. they have to perform yoganidraa, ie

incessant japa during apparent but not real sleep.

-VJ

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pdk kotak <ganeshji101

Monday, July 13, 2009 2:27:06 PM

Re: Astrology -- Conditions for Predicting AccuratelY -

Pujay shri Rohinida and Vinay ji,

Please forgive me to trouble u - can u suggest what is the best period of night

to do the Japa - pranamas pdk

--- On Mon, 13/7/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com> wrote:

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com>