Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Dear RR ji, First of a small correction in my last post Please read the following " Yes, some may not come up the way parent expects, but that is the mistake of the child " . As Yes, some may not come up the way parent expects, but that is NOT the mistake of the child. I sometimes tend to miss some words while typing. Fingers do not follow the brain. May be age & and a very busy schedule is slowly taking its toll. I would like to present another case of Hyperactivity. DOB 04-Feb-1998 TOB 15:25 Lat 09:58 N Log 76:17 E This also have 7th lord Jupiter along with Mars as Chandra lagna lord and Mercury as lagna lord. He was very Hyperactive and did not listen to anyone. He had a habit of non stop crying, when confronted or when denied his wishes which lead to convulsions, unconsciousness etc and severely prone to accidents, fights with every one and dangerous too. He used to throw anything that comes handy – cricket bat, stumps, bricks at others causing sever injury to others. There was not a day his family used to get complaints from school and other parents. Due to the above mentioned problem (being unconscious), his parents used to do whatever he asked. Surprisingly he studies well and sometimes displays a very compassionate and loving behavior. After due to my advice, he was given Homeo medicine and the convulsions including frenzied crying stopped and the behavior also changed considerably to a manageable level. However, though very funny, the major change came when his father a charted accountant and working as finance controller and GM in a large company, was transferred to Benares. This boy also joined the school there. But it was like Narashimha confronted by Aghora. He really got scared by the general attitude of class mates there and also had language problem. He came back insisting he wont go to school there and joined his old school at his native place. The transformation was remarkable. A boy who was used to getting his way, superiority complex, Changed with environment and the knowledge that there are far more dangerous people around plus the help of medicine. regards A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Dear RR ji, > > First of all My humblest thanks for your blessings. I shall convey those to him. > > I made the reference only to show that one single planet may not indicate the issues. However, there are such cases, A few days back you had mentioned this factor in another post. I must say I have to agree. But Planet thus becoming the single factor need not be the one in lagna. In fact, I always make a point to check if such factors exists that might be the " key " , used it with considerable success also. > > As you noted, There is subha karthari yoga & Saturn in Aquarius in the seventh in my sons chart, that modifies the effect, though mars is singularly placed in lagna. > > However, In the chart of the native, Mars is with Jupiter (having Kendradhipathy dosha & Gulikabhavanadhipathy also). The same mars is aspecting 4th house and Moon also. 4th house & moon also indicates body. Saturn (retro) is also aspecting Moon. Mars is also navamasa lord of Gulika. (gulika associated with both jupiter & Mars and they in lagna). It is due to the above reasons that I commented in my first post that the boy had been troubled by sickness and is also the reason for behavioural issues (which she corroborated indirectly). > > >>That said, my statement did not imply " all through one's life " > > You are perfectly right. One of basic tutions is astrology is planets show their effects during their dasa/anthardasa period, and in transit. So the effects need not be felt throughout one life. However, the same planet can also be foundation for ones charecteristic. For example: consider a highly educated & learned person. He may sit quietly in a corner in a unassuming way. But if is asked a real intelligent question that excites him, you will see his capability & learning. > > In this case, Mercury his lagna lord though with sun (giving nipuna yoga) does not have Moudhya. Jupiter(Guru)is in lagna. Mars is also chandra lagna lord. > > One notable point is all the planets are in Dridhya Half except saturn his fifth(pragya) lord - in adrishya half. Malefic planet in apoklima is good. Its navamsa in Vrishvika. Both these signs - Kumbha & Vrischika are termed channapaapa rasi (shows hidden) qualities. If we exclude the sapa and such things and consider more positively, I feel, given the right opurtunity and circumstances, he is capable of displaying capabilities. > > My basic contention is no child is born a fool unless he has physical deffect externaly or internaly. They just may need the right circumstances & tutoring. Yes, some may not come up the way parent expects, but that is the mistake of the child. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shenoy-ji, > > > > Thanks for sharing this chart. May your Chiranjeev always remain happy and unaffected and continue to negate the observation I earlier shared based on my tiny and humble empirical experience. Perhaps the direct aspect of the powerful saturn and the shubh kartari helped and hopefully shall continue to keep mars under check always. > > > > That said, my statement did not imply " all through one's life " but more like at least at some point during the lifetime. In the case of a tula lagna, the 'ordeal' began after age 50s or so and I would not necessarily call him 'scarred' -- maybe I over-represented the difficulty a bit. In another case and that one happens to be a simha lagna, the martian influence began expressing/being experienced after age 45. > > > > I have no case in my ready recollection where the nativity experienced the difficulty at a young age (your son is still a teenager). So, please do not make up your mind against what I wrote yet :-) > > > > Mars gives many good qualities too, such as determination, healthy competitiveness (if managed well!), the grit to make a difference. It is important for 'martians' (if I may loosely use the term) to practice self-discipline, learn to like sports and physical exertion, exercise early in life so that the good habits stay in life later when the effects of mars express, and to enjoy a good debate and argument without getting upset or all flustered up ;-) > > > > Regards, > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear RR ji, > > > > > > > > Mars is a very difficult planet! I have yet to see ONE person in my very limited experience, of course, who came with mars rising and escaped a battle that did not scar him or her and caused pain around! > > > > > > > > > > > Check this > > > DOB 23-06-1993 > > > TOB 11.25AM > > > Lat : 09:58 N > > > Log : 76:17 E > > > > > > He has Mars rising in his lagna that too in Leo, No such effect as mentioned. He is very scared - of dogs! > > > > > > He is my son. > > > > > > > > > > > > For Madam > > > > > > Jupiter + Mars will give diebetics. In fact this is the first thing that came to my mind when I saw the chart. I let it go since he is very young and also the reason I sugested Homeo Medicine. > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " proudmum786 " <proudmum786@> wrote: > > > > > > > > well he is quite big for pets now and impractical as well in our very small homes in UK. he has younger siblings though of course not disabled. > > > > he looks dumb from face i dont know why > > > > he has diabetics family history. > > > > i did little research and i found out tht magnesium and calcium cud aaffect hyperactivity nd concentration. > > > > mars is very prominent in our charts, his father, my daughter, and mine chart too. > > > > likewise jupiter is also prominent in his father,my daughter and mine chart. this boy has jup in lagna like his father. both are restless and angry man. so u can see its also genes factor. > > > > - > > > > -- In , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Pardon my intrusion! > > > > > > > > > > Mars is a very difficult planet! I have yet to see ONE person in my very limited experience, of course, who came with mars rising and escaped a battle that did not scar him or her and caused pain around! > > > > > > > > > > Mars has this extremely unpleasant habit of creating much turbulance when challenged. Hanumaan ji got his tail ignited but it also burned Lanka, for instance! > > > > > > > > > > If such a rising mars is influenced with more negative factors, in this case gulika and rahu in 3rd and moon in 8th (where the armies were in this chart!), the agony shall be externalized and expressed! In other words others will immediately suffer as seems to be the case from your account. > > > > > > > > > > Budhaditya is a sweet yoga, often remaining unexplored but very illuminating 'when' rightly given its fodder, its food based on the chart! > > > > > > > > > > For this nativity, simply try bringing an animal pet in his life! If he has an elder sibling, let him or her choose the pet. Avoid impersonal pets such as fish! A dog seems perfect and a cat is the minimum! No rabbits, hamsters, birds or other impersonal pets, in my opinion! Later on, you may wish to catiously introduce this individual to be exposed to small children with disabilities, mental or physical. It shall be very therapeutic if you can create such opportunities...! > > > > > > > > > > Please try it! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " proudmum786 " <proudmum786@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > hello > > > > > > > > > > > > he is like son to me. his birth data is 9-august-1993 11:37 am birmingham united kingdom. > > > > > > we are all tired in front of him. he is angry, fights with other boys, not at all interest in studies and work/career. he just finished his school. not much intelligent. everyone is so disturbed by him. we are worried abt him. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. how do u see his second nd 10th house. career, studies, intelligence. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. how should we deal with him, shud we left him on hios own nd he will be good afterwards. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. do u see anny good periods coming in his life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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