Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Sankaranarayanan AV PATHI JI HAS BEEN AROUND FOR MUCH LONGER AND FOR ALL THAT U MAY KNOW HE IS ALSO POSSIBLE A TAMIL TOO and pl expand ur horizon beyond TAMIL prism. I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST TAMILS it is only the ones who use it as a brand or a superior base to others. only the mentality not ppl i am comenting about I am born in chennai, live in tamil nadu so know its values, worth, culturally still alive but for the narrow minded ones who crop up and make the scene bad for all.. most of sanskrit words that got corrupted by them can't be called tamil - rest as sanskrit e.g Gandam is sanskrit kandam is tamilified version of it Khanda in Sanskrit is chapter, and used in tamil Nadi astrology as kandam again. the meaning differs radically isn' it Sun flower oil is called SurEya gandhi yennai so what will u kme of it it is Surya Kanthi in sanskrit Mahatma Gandhi is called Magathma Kanthi or ganthi whatever the greatest joke s the DK clan call him Ittmar gandhi as Mahatma is Sanskrit well UTMA is also sanskrit, the Nungam bakkam high road in chennai is named afrer Mahatma but is uttmar gandhi road. all over India he is know by his tile not his local version of it. Sanskrit of Gomathi is pronounced as Komathi, komadhi now on ur thread itself how can u equate sani in 5th greatert han the ones we all know ardha ashtama, ashtama, sade saat as more powerfully evil it is evil that is all no known work places it up the ladder does it? being over the 5th it delays ones reaction, input, intelligence, spiritual energies and as 2nd to 4th peace of mind suffers a bit Prashant ________________________________ sankaranarayanan k.s <shankypriyan Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:40:44 PM Re: Saturn's special transit effects. Respected Gurujis My humble views on this subject are as under. Though I am not well versed in Astrology, as a student of Hinduism and a Tamilian, will give my views as under. ( I say tamilian because a. Sanskrit words have a different meaning in Tamil b. Tamils give lot of imporatnce to Gochara) 1. Sani Having Easwar title: The word Sanaichara ( slow walker) some how got corrupted in Tamil and became Saneeswara. Then stories spurned around Saturn getting the Eswar title. But all Siva Temples of Tamilandu, he is an humble servant of Shiva and a parivara devata. 2. I have seen period the Ashtama Sani is more dangerous than Sade sathi for many. ( Simillarly the Gurus 10th Position affects job status. Especially for Mesha Rasi, when guru in 10th house ie Mahara, where jupiter becomes weak, even if he is exalated in good houses in the horescope will not help) 3. The sade sati is divided into 3 and in sanskrit called as janma, kanda ( middle) and Pada ( end) This Kanda is confused with Tamil Kanadam ( death possibility) and feared. 4. If Saturn is Lagnadipathi, the sade sathi effect is minimum ( can be good also) and ashtama sthan may not be that worse. If he is Rasiadibathi ( chandra lagna lord) again the periods are not that bad. 5. Sani in 7th house from Chandra Rasi can also be considered a good period. 6. The 5th is also bad but some how the sade sathi, ashtama and ardashtama have over taken in the popular belief. 7. Visiting Thirunallaru brings down the effect . ( i have written earlier also. many people misunderstand the Navgraha temples of Tamilnadu. They are Shiva temples and the presiding Shiva ONLY cures. The curse on each planet was cured in each temple by shiva. In Thirunallaru, when Nala entered the temple, saturn could not follow him inside and have to leave him. that is why Thiru Nala Aru. Aru means cooling, curing, Thiru is Sri in tamil. Hence , Vinayaga,Shiva and Parvathi to be worshipped first and then the saturn. Also one have to take bath in nala theertham before entering the temple. Please go with empty stomach in the morning and not as a picnic. Saturdays are best but the line takes 5 to 6 hours. If not possible other days are also ok, Bath with gingille oil in the tank and offer ghee for Siva and Parvathy's lamps. Gingelee oil was Sani's lamp) Regards Sankar --- On Thu, 7/16/09, venkatachala pathi <pathiav > wrote: venkatachala pathi <pathiav > Saturn's special transit effects. ancient_indian_ astrology, askyourastroquery@ . com, asthikasamaj, astro_remedies, astroriber@gro ups.com, Chandra-AdityaAstro Remedies@ . co.in, vedic astrology, brahmin_world@ . co.in, " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises@ hathway.com>, " brahimn tvm group " <kbstvm (AT) (DOT) co.in>, " Conjeevaram Subramanian " <subsavi2001@ >, delhindu@ s.com, " DR.PRASAD RAMKRISHNA " <drprkprasad@ hotmail.com>, gururangan (AT) gmail (DOT) com, HARE_RAM@ s.com, " Haresh (Harry) Nathani " <haresh1405 >, " Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ " <Digest >, @ . com, , @ . com, , " N.S.Parasuraman " <parasu41 (AT) grouply (DOT) com>, om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, shaneeswara@ . com, sheevani147@ .co. uk, vighneshare@ .co. in Thursday, July 16, 2009, 2:34 PM Saturn’s various special transit effects through Zodiac Houses Saturn is the only planet which has the title of ‘Eswara’. The cyclic effect of Sani Paryaya Phala. Any native with full span of life will experience 3 times, the 7 ½ years, at one length of a time, said to be familier with ‘Sade Sati’. The dicum conveys ‘the sense that Sani Bhagavan gives bad results, with an intermittent of 2 ½ years in full cycle of its travel around Zodiac, of approximately 30 years (inclusive of the periods of his ‘retrogression’), being one full round. This means that in a round of Zodiac of Saturn movement, Saturn moves 2.1/2 years in each house of Zodiac. It is said, that Saturn gives GOOD results only when it transits through 3,6, and 11th house from the position of Moon in the Natalchart. When he moves in the rest of the houses, Saturn is said to give BAD effects, graded as moderate, not good, bad and evil. On this rate, when we assume that a man lives for 90 years, he would have experienced 3 rounds of ‘Sade Sati’. In these three rounds, taking 2.1/2 years in the above three houses (house, 3,6 & 11 from Moon position) he is benefited for a period of 7.1/2 years in each cycle of transit to complete the cycle of movement in Zodiac. That is, it is said to be good for 22.1/2 years in all, in a life of 90 years of a person. Conversely a person is said to be in ‘not that good’ period for the rest of periods! I will now explain how intensity of malefic results are distributed during each round: Basics are as follows: 1. Saturn gives good results while traversing in the 3, 6, or 11th house from the natal position of the Moon; 2. Moderate bad results while at 5, 9, or 10th house; 3. “Ardhashatama Sani’, while in 4th House; Considerably bad; 4. “Kanta Saniâ€, while in 7th House; Sani is more malefic than in 4th house , above said; 5. “Ashtama Saniâ€, while in 8th House to be more severe in causing effects; 6. “Sade Satiâ€: While in 12th House from Moon position, 1st house where moon is positioned in birth chart, and in 2nd house to the Moon occupied House. Out of the above Janma Sani (1st House where Moon is positioned )is the worst effective period. When Saturn transits in other houses, the effects will be comparatively tolerable and subject to remedies and other factors in a horoscope, related to the positions of Planets, Drusti, Transit of other Planets on a given day, the transiting house related to Lagna, Desha, Bukti etc.(In Northern India, Ashtama Sani and Ardhashtama Sani is referred as ‘Kalyani’ and ‘Lagu Kalyani’ respectively) . Let us get into ‘package’ effects in ‘Sade Sati’ – 7.1/2 years of Saturn transit: A ‘Madyamayur Jathaka’ person will have ‘Sade Sati’ two times maximum. A ‘Alpayush Jathaka’ person will have ‘Sade Sati’ only once. A ‘Purna Ayush Jathaka’ will have 3 or 4 times of ‘Sade Sati’ in all his life. The first perio (7.1/2 years) is ‘Mungu Sani’ – dull Sani; the second period is ‘Pongu Sani’ – overflowing Sani!; The third full period of Sani is ‘Maraka Sani’ - death inflicting Sani.( For some the fourth round Sani could have this term)If so the third Sani period will be termed as ‘Kungu Sani’ – the depressing or disappointing period of Sani’s ‘Sade Sati’. Apart from the the above another term is prevalent as ‘Anga Sani’ : Here the 7.1/2 years of ‘Sade Sati’ the travel of Saturn is distributed to various parts of body. During this 90 month period, Saturn is said to pass through various parts of body in continuance At the rate of specific few months through each part of body to cause disturbance, anxiety, serious sickness, aggravated health deterioration etc, related to that part of body. Surgery where Mars involved is not excluded. To be continued………… I request your interest and understanding on above details for me to continue this article. Pathi (16 July 2009) A.V.Pathi, Astrologer, 'Oxton House', 6, Hawthorn Road,Cherry Willingh am, Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom . 0044+01522+595996, (consultation fees charged for direct detailed studies) Elec. Money Transfer to: Canara Bank Ashok Nagar Chennai India SB No: 0975101008227. also at: kountinya29@ gmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Dear Sir,  I am NOT showing any proudness of tamil. I am saying beacuase of these corruptions in tamil, things are going wrong.like eswaran, Kandam etc. The nadi thing is kaandam. ( not kandam) Gamdam is neck ( middle) and ganda sani is middle one and not death sani.  I have said that being a tamil , i understand these corruptions and people are unnecesaarily panicking. There is nothing i said that i am proud be tamil. I have mentioned it very clearly in the opening line itself on why i say that i am a tamil.  The question is whether Sani is Eswara? or Chara? Ghanda Sani is middle sani or death sani?  The questions i have asked is simple? Others are my observations and it is a open forum where people share their views. The discussion is going away from the subject. Since i have come out of the " Tamil " thing, i am questioning this.  otherwise i would have also sang Saneeswaran song.  Regards  Sankar  --- On Thu, 7/16/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar Re: Saturn's special transit effects. 17/7 Thursday, July 16, 2009, 5:26 PM  Sankaranarayanan AV PATHI JI HAS BEEN AROUND FOR MUCH LONGER AND FOR ALL THAT U MAY KNOW HE IS ALSO POSSIBLE A TAMIL TOO and pl expand ur horizon beyond TAMIL prism. I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST TAMILS it is only the ones who use it as a brand or a superior base to others. only the mentality not ppl i am comenting about I am born in chennai, live in tamil nadu so know its values, worth, culturally still alive but for the narrow minded ones who crop up and make the scene bad for all.. most of sanskrit words that got corrupted by them can't be called tamil - rest as sanskrit e.g Gandam is sanskrit kandam is tamilified version of it Khanda in Sanskrit is chapter, and used in tamil Nadi astrology as kandam again. the meaning differs radically isn' it Sun flower oil is called SurEya gandhi yennai so what will u kme of it it is Surya Kanthi in sanskrit Mahatma Gandhi is called Magathma Kanthi or ganthi whatever the greatest joke s the DK clan call him Ittmar gandhi as Mahatma is Sanskrit well UTMA is also sanskrit, the Nungam bakkam high road in chennai is named afrer Mahatma but is uttmar gandhi road. all over India he is know by his tile not his local version of it. Sanskrit of Gomathi is pronounced as Komathi, komadhi now on ur thread itself how can u equate sani in 5th greatert han the ones we all know ardha ashtama, ashtama, sade saat as more powerfully evil it is evil that is all no known work places it up the ladder does it? being over the 5th it delays ones reaction, input, intelligence, spiritual energies and as 2nd to 4th peace of mind suffers a bit Prashant ____________ _________ _________ __ sankaranarayanan k.s <shankypriyan@ > Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:40:44 PM Re: Saturn's special transit effects. Respected Gurujis My humble views on this subject are as under. Though I am not well versed in Astrology, as a student of Hinduism and a Tamilian, will give my views as under. ( I say tamilian because a. Sanskrit words have a different meaning in Tamil b. Tamils give lot of imporatnce to Gochara) 1. Sani Having Easwar title: The word Sanaichara ( slow walker) some how got corrupted in Tamil and became Saneeswara. Then stories spurned around Saturn getting the Eswar title. But all Siva Temples of Tamilandu, he is an humble servant of Shiva and a parivara devata. 2. I have seen period the Ashtama Sani is more dangerous than Sade sathi for many. ( Simillarly the Gurus 10th Position affects job status. Especially for Mesha Rasi, when guru in 10th house ie Mahara, where jupiter becomes weak, even if he is exalated in good houses in the horescope will not help) 3. The sade sati is divided into 3 and in sanskrit called as janma, kanda ( middle) and Pada ( end) This Kanda is confused with Tamil Kanadam ( death possibility) and feared. 4. If Saturn is Lagnadipathi, the sade sathi effect is minimum ( can be good also) and ashtama sthan may not be that worse. If he is Rasiadibathi ( chandra lagna lord) again the periods are not that bad. 5. Sani in 7th house from Chandra Rasi can also be considered a good period. 6. The 5th is also bad but some how the sade sathi, ashtama and ardashtama have over taken in the popular belief. 7. Visiting Thirunallaru brings down the effect . ( i have written earlier also. many people misunderstand the Navgraha temples of Tamilnadu. They are Shiva temples and the presiding Shiva ONLY cures. The curse on each planet was cured in each temple by shiva. In Thirunallaru, when Nala entered the temple, saturn could not follow him inside and have to leave him. that is why Thiru Nala Aru. Aru means cooling, curing, Thiru is Sri in tamil. Hence , Vinayaga,Shiva and Parvathi to be worshipped first and then the saturn. Also one have to take bath in nala theertham before entering the temple. Please go with empty stomach in the morning and not as a picnic. Saturdays are best but the line takes 5 to 6 hours. If not possible other days are also ok, Bath with gingille oil in the tank and offer ghee for Siva and Parvathy's lamps. Gingelee oil was Sani's lamp) Regards Sankar --- On Thu, 7/16/09, venkatachala pathi <pathiav > wrote: venkatachala pathi <pathiav > Saturn's special transit effects. ancient_indian_ astrology, askyourastroquery@ . com, asthikasamaj, astro_remedies, astroriber@gro ups.com, Chandra-AdityaAstro Remedies@ . co.in, vedic astrology, brahmin_world@ . co.in, " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises@ hathway.com> , " brahimn tvm group " <kbstvm@ . co.in>, " Conjeevaram Subramanian " <subsavi2001@ >, delhindu@ s.com, " DR.PRASAD RAMKRISHNA " <drprkprasad@ hotmail.com> , gururangan (AT) gmail (DOT) com, HARE_RAM@ s.com, " Haresh (Harry) Nathani " <haresh1405@ . com>, " Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ " <Digest>, , , , , " N.S.Parasuraman " <parasu41 (AT) grouply (DOT) com>, om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, shaneeswara, sheevani147@ .co. uk, vighneshare@ .co. in Thursday, July 16, 2009, 2:34 PM Saturn’s various special transit effects through Zodiac Houses Saturn is the only planet which has the title of ‘Eswara’. The cyclic effect of Sani Paryaya Phala. Any native with full span of life will experience 3 times, the 7 ½ years, at one length of a time, said to be familier with ‘Sade Sati’. The dicum conveys ‘the sense that Sani Bhagavan gives bad results, with an intermittent of 2 ½ years in full cycle of its travel around Zodiac, of approximately 30 years (inclusive of the periods of his ‘retrogression’), being one full round. This means that in a round of Zodiac of Saturn movement, Saturn moves 2.1/2 years in each house of Zodiac. It is said, that Saturn gives GOOD results only when it transits through 3,6, and 11th house from the position of Moon in the Natalchart. When he moves in the rest of the houses, Saturn is said to give BAD effects, graded as moderate, not good, bad and evil. On this rate, when we assume that a man lives for 90 years, he would have experienced 3 rounds of ‘Sade Sati’. In these three rounds, taking 2.1/2 years in the above three houses (house, 3,6 & 11 from Moon position) he is benefited for a period of 7.1/2 years in each cycle of transit to complete the cycle of movement in Zodiac. That is, it is said to be good for 22.1/2 years in all, in a life of 90 years of a person. Conversely a person is said to be in ‘not that good’ period for the rest of periods! I will now explain how intensity of malefic results are distributed during each round: Basics are as follows: 1. Saturn gives good results while traversing in the 3, 6, or 11th house from the natal position of the Moon; 2. Moderate bad results while at 5, 9, or 10th house; 3. “Ardhashatama Sani’, while in 4th House; Considerably bad; 4. “Kanta Saniâ€, while in 7th House; Sani is more malefic than in 4th house , above said; 5. “Ashtama Saniâ€, while in 8th House to be more severe in causing effects; 6. “Sade Satiâ€: While in 12th House from Moon position, 1st house where moon is positioned in birth chart, and in 2nd house to the Moon occupied House. Out of the above Janma Sani (1st House where Moon is positioned )is the worst effective period. When Saturn transits in other houses, the effects will be comparatively tolerable and subject to remedies and other factors in a horoscope, related to the positions of Planets, Drusti, Transit of other Planets on a given day, the transiting house related to Lagna, Desha, Bukti etc.(In Northern India, Ashtama Sani and Ardhashtama Sani is referred as ‘Kalyani’ and ‘Lagu Kalyani’ respectively) . Let us get into ‘package’ effects in ‘Sade Sati’ – 7.1/2 years of Saturn transit: A ‘Madyamayur Jathaka’ person will have ‘Sade Sati’ two times maximum. A ‘Alpayush Jathaka’ person will have ‘Sade Sati’ only once. A ‘Purna Ayush Jathaka’ will have 3 or 4 times of ‘Sade Sati’ in all his life. The first perio (7.1/2 years) is ‘Mungu Sani’ – dull Sani; the second period is ‘Pongu Sani’ – overflowing Sani!; The third full period of Sani is ‘Maraka Sani’ - death inflicting Sani.( For some the fourth round Sani could have this term)If so the third Sani period will be termed as ‘Kungu Sani’ – the depressing or disappointing period of Sani’s ‘Sade Sati’. Apart from the the above another term is prevalent as ‘Anga Sani’ : Here the 7.1/2 years of ‘Sade Sati’ the travel of Saturn is distributed to various parts of body. During this 90 month period, Saturn is said to pass through various parts of body in continuance At the rate of specific few months through each part of body to cause disturbance, anxiety, serious sickness, aggravated health deterioration etc, related to that part of body. Surgery where Mars involved is not excluded. To be continued………… I request your interest and understanding on above details for me to continue this article. Pathi (16 July 2009) A.V.Pathi, Astrologer, 'Oxton House', 6, Hawthorn Road,Cherry Willingh am, Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom . 0044+01522+595996, (consultation fees charged for direct detailed studies) Elec. Money Transfer to: Canara Bank Ashok Nagar Chennai India SB No: 0975101008227. also at: kountinya29@ gmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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