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Dear Astro Explorer,

 

Explore these forums before posting such lengthy know-it-all messages. Perhaps

spending some time will be worth your while.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

wrote:

>

> Member

>

> whover u may be mostly a FAKE ID of some old member troubling groups.

>

> NOW Maharashi Parashara has given many dasas and has clearly said in KALI YUGA

it is only UDU-or Vimshottari alone that works,

>

> BPHS was written much earlier to Kali Yuga so pl bear in mind the change

>

> by trying to bombastically use words , more of jargon than real significance

issues cant be created or image built

>

> if SCHOLARS LIKE Dr B V RAMAN ji used parasari's vimshottari, and othes like

KPS MENAON, PS SHASTRY, H R SHESHADRI IYER, VAK IYER, M R BHATT, V Subramanya

shastry, B Suryanarayana rao, gayathri devi vasudev, Bhasin many more

succesfully it is proof that it works well

>

> if people failed there r many rasons apart from the tools., skills of the

astrologer

>

> like the Karma balance sheet and its outlays for this life.

>

> I have said a good prediction has a equilateral triange a serious question, a

good astrologer and the almighty above who forms the other part if he links the

line only can the worst of best of astrologers deliver else one may never meet

the best in time and get the best advice even from a starter in the subject

>

> u can see many missing appointments with the best or not using the guidlines

given in time or the astrologer remember what he ought to have said than what he

said after the person has left and is out of calling area.

>

> so dont put all just to techncalities alone our karma will dictate the end

result by propar balanced karma we can reap the max in this life and better the

karma balance sheet for the next life

>

> best wishes

________________________________

> " astro_explorer " <astro_explorer

>

> Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:53:12 PM

> Why Most Astrologers Are Not Accurate and What We Can Do About

It

>

>

> Namaskar,

>

> Parasara states in his Magnum Opus, " Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra " , that

prediction is difficult even for a sage. What to say of ordinary mortals like us

then? I would venture to say that the great majority of astrologers, even the so

called " legends " in this business, have not thoroughly perused his great tome-

and quite frankly, do not have the intellect or perseverance to understand it

much less apply it's vast techniques.

>

> If I may ask a few questions to my esteemed readers, both astrologers and

clients : Did your astrologer even mention Gulika or Yama Ghantaka to you, did

you think he at least made use of them? Do you even know what they are? Did your

astrologer use Kalachakra Dasha " KCD " (A highly refined timing system)? Did you

know that Parasara speaks most highly of KCD and not the over-used and

over-fitted Vimshottari Dasha? Does your astrologer know to rectify your birth

time with the supremely time-sensitive KCD? Did he even bother to rectify your

time of birth at all? A proper birth-time is CRITICAL to all predictions! Did

your astrologer use any conditional dashas?- is Sun in your first house? - then

surely he must have used Shashti Hayani dasha- or maybe not. Did he use transits

and the Sudarshana Chakra to really fine tune his timing for you? I willing to

bet the most will answer the above questions in the negative- and now you have a

teeny-tiny glimpse of why

> you didn't get the results you were seeking.

>

> If you have a moment please read the following message if you are interested

in Vedic Astrology but want to either learn or contribute to how it can give all

you far more consistent and concrete answers. This is NOT a sales pitch of any

type.

>

> It is my genuine supposition that the overwhelming majority of astrologers

fail in their analysis and that this failure is attributable to two primary

reasons. Of course, we must define failure first. Failure can be defined as the

inability to consistently and accurately assess a given querent's strengths,

weaknesses and personality. Failure also includes the persistent inability to

accurately time the querent's major life events- too many astrologers indulge in

giving beautiful explanations of past events but are utterly incapable of

looking into the future. Conversely, one may ask, what is success? I define

success, in the astrological realm, as an accuracy rate (dealing with major

issues) some where in the 65% to 75% vicinity. Anybody claiming substantially

higher, especially on a long-term basis, is a liar or a sage.

>

> The first reason is largely but not completely out of the astrologer's

control. The second far more important reason is largely under the astrologer's

control but is greatly limited by his skill, intelligence and diligence.

Astrology, at it's core, deals with probabilities- some events can be forecasted

with greater accuracy than others and some simply cannot be seen at all-querents

need to be made aware of this. As we all know, a single natal chart is embedded

with a mind-boggling array of details, astrologers must be able to parse out the

major relevant issues and holistically synthesize them; though like most things

worth doing, easier said than done. I don't know if astrology is a science, it

seems more like an art. I don't know if astrology is perfect as many loudly

proclaim, perfection seems impossible in this world. Nevertheless, as many here

would agree, astrology can be quite useful. I would now like to ask you all a

very serious question.

>

> How many of you have had sub-par reading from your astrologer? I would venture

to say that many of you have had less than satisfying experiences. Almost all

astrologers over-promise, over-charge and under-perform. Let me bluntly ask, can

anybody off the street become a surgeon? The barriers of entry into medicine are

quite high but the barriers of entry into astrology are simply non-existent. Too

many astrologers, even well known ones, provide shabby analysis in order to make

a quick 200 dollars an hour or whatever outlandish fee they charge for such

mediocrity.

>

> Just so readers know my vantage point. I have been to many astrologers in

search of the best, too many to count in fact. I have been to the legends, to

complete unknowns, as well as everything in the middle. I can safely say that

out of the many I encountered, including a few with a presence on internet

boards, I was only impressed with three to four at most! In order to counter the

widespread ignorance of proper astrological techniques in this Kali Yuga we have

formed a small but dedicated astrology research and application group.

>

> Please click on the following link and apply for free membership in our newly

formed group:

>

> http://health. groups.. com revati_energetic s_true_vedic_

astrology/

>

> Our group deals with unearthing, interpreting and applying the secrets

contained in the BPHS. It will also feature free lessons for beginners and

intermediates. Though this group mainly concerns advanced astrological concepts

everybody is encouraged to join. It is run by an astrologer by the name of

Revati, the finest I know of. I wrote this message for him because I really

believe in his work. I have nothing to gain from it. Ask questions to your

heart's content, nobody is asking for anything in return. We all can learn

something.

>

 

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HAH! Well-said ;-)

This person is also sending messages to private email addresses! Cover your

'name-plates' members!

 

Jyotish must be a very HOLY subject, that is why so many Messiahs keep dropping

by at regular intervals! And some fallen angels too ;-)

 

RR

 

, " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag

wrote:

>

> Dear Astro Explorer,

>

> Explore these forums before posting such lengthy know-it-all messages. Perhaps

spending some time will be worth your while.

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@>

wrote:

> >

> > Member

> >

> > whover u may be mostly a FAKE ID of some old member troubling groups.

> >

> > NOW Maharashi Parashara has given many dasas and has clearly said in KALI

YUGA it is only UDU-or Vimshottari alone that works,

> >

> > BPHS was written much earlier to Kali Yuga so pl bear in mind the change

> >

> > by trying to bombastically use words , more of jargon than real significance

issues cant be created or image built

> >

> > if SCHOLARS LIKE Dr B V RAMAN ji used parasari's vimshottari, and othes like

KPS MENAON, PS SHASTRY, H R SHESHADRI IYER, VAK IYER, M R BHATT, V Subramanya

shastry, B Suryanarayana rao, gayathri devi vasudev, Bhasin many more

succesfully it is proof that it works well

> >

> > if people failed there r many rasons apart from the tools., skills of the

astrologer

> >

> > like the Karma balance sheet and its outlays for this life.

> >

> > I have said a good prediction has a equilateral triange a serious question,

a good astrologer and the almighty above who forms the other part if he links

the line only can the worst of best of astrologers deliver else one may never

meet the best in time and get the best advice even from a starter in the subject

> >

> > u can see many missing appointments with the best or not using the guidlines

given in time or the astrologer remember what he ought to have said than what he

said after the person has left and is out of calling area.

> >

> > so dont put all just to techncalities alone our karma will dictate the end

result by propar balanced karma we can reap the max in this life and better the

karma balance sheet for the next life

> >

> > best wishes

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > " astro_explorer@ " <astro_explorer@>

> >

> > Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:53:12 PM

> > Why Most Astrologers Are Not Accurate and What We Can Do About

It

> >

> >

> > Namaskar,

> >

> > Parasara states in his Magnum Opus, " Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra " , that

prediction is difficult even for a sage. What to say of ordinary mortals like us

then? I would venture to say that the great majority of astrologers, even the so

called " legends " in this business, have not thoroughly perused his great tome-

and quite frankly, do not have the intellect or perseverance to understand it

much less apply it's vast techniques.

> >

> > If I may ask a few questions to my esteemed readers, both astrologers and

clients : Did your astrologer even mention Gulika or Yama Ghantaka to you, did

you think he at least made use of them? Do you even know what they are? Did your

astrologer use Kalachakra Dasha " KCD " (A highly refined timing system)? Did you

know that Parasara speaks most highly of KCD and not the over-used and

over-fitted Vimshottari Dasha? Does your astrologer know to rectify your birth

time with the supremely time-sensitive KCD? Did he even bother to rectify your

time of birth at all? A proper birth-time is CRITICAL to all predictions! Did

your astrologer use any conditional dashas?- is Sun in your first house? - then

surely he must have used Shashti Hayani dasha- or maybe not. Did he use transits

and the Sudarshana Chakra to really fine tune his timing for you? I willing to

bet the most will answer the above questions in the negative- and now you have a

teeny-tiny glimpse of why

> > you didn't get the results you were seeking.

> >

> > If you have a moment please read the following message if you are interested

in Vedic Astrology but want to either learn or contribute to how it can give all

you far more consistent and concrete answers. This is NOT a sales pitch of any

type.

> >

> > It is my genuine supposition that the overwhelming majority of astrologers

fail in their analysis and that this failure is attributable to two primary

reasons. Of course, we must define failure first. Failure can be defined as the

inability to consistently and accurately assess a given querent's strengths,

weaknesses and personality. Failure also includes the persistent inability to

accurately time the querent's major life events- too many astrologers indulge in

giving beautiful explanations of past events but are utterly incapable of

looking into the future. Conversely, one may ask, what is success? I define

success, in the astrological realm, as an accuracy rate (dealing with major

issues) some where in the 65% to 75% vicinity. Anybody claiming substantially

higher, especially on a long-term basis, is a liar or a sage.

> >

> > The first reason is largely but not completely out of the astrologer's

control. The second far more important reason is largely under the astrologer's

control but is greatly limited by his skill, intelligence and diligence.

Astrology, at it's core, deals with probabilities- some events can be forecasted

with greater accuracy than others and some simply cannot be seen at all-querents

need to be made aware of this. As we all know, a single natal chart is embedded

with a mind-boggling array of details, astrologers must be able to parse out the

major relevant issues and holistically synthesize them; though like most things

worth doing, easier said than done. I don't know if astrology is a science, it

seems more like an art. I don't know if astrology is perfect as many loudly

proclaim, perfection seems impossible in this world. Nevertheless, as many here

would agree, astrology can be quite useful. I would now like to ask you all a

very serious question.

> >

> > How many of you have had sub-par reading from your astrologer? I would

venture to say that many of you have had less than satisfying experiences.

Almost all astrologers over-promise, over-charge and under-perform. Let me

bluntly ask, can anybody off the street become a surgeon? The barriers of entry

into medicine are quite high but the barriers of entry into astrology are simply

non-existent. Too many astrologers, even well known ones, provide shabby

analysis in order to make a quick 200 dollars an hour or whatever outlandish fee

they charge for such mediocrity.

> >

> > Just so readers know my vantage point. I have been to many astrologers in

search of the best, too many to count in fact. I have been to the legends, to

complete unknowns, as well as everything in the middle. I can safely say that

out of the many I encountered, including a few with a presence on internet

boards, I was only impressed with three to four at most! In order to counter the

widespread ignorance of proper astrological techniques in this Kali Yuga we have

formed a small but dedicated astrology research and application group.

> >

> > Please click on the following link and apply for free membership in our

newly formed group:

> >

> > http://health. groups.. com revati_energetic s_true_vedic_

astrology/

> >

> > Our group deals with unearthing, interpreting and applying the secrets

contained in the BPHS. It will also feature free lessons for beginners and

intermediates. Though this group mainly concerns advanced astrological concepts

everybody is encouraged to join. It is run by an astrologer by the name of

Revati, the finest I know of. I wrote this message for him because I really

believe in his work. I have nothing to gain from it. Ask questions to your

heart's content, nobody is asking for anything in return. We all can learn

something.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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