Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Dear sir, I was in the impression that the group is for intellectual interaction. Now, I have no comments from my end. Kindly remove my name from the group. Regards, Gopal Raju www.astrotantra4u.com --- On Fri, 17/7/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar Re: Re: Gopal raju. Friday, 17 July, 2009, 2:03 PM Gopal raju when u post messages in a public forum u must be aware it meets they eye of many ppl and i do hear u r sending private mails to members also and lanmguage is v important u need not be perfect but u can be simple and non controversial basically if u see our database section there u can advertise ur services group info pl avoid ref to it directly u r free to post here no issue as long as it is astroligical and commerce is not part of it AGAIN IT IS NOT HEARD u want to say it is HURT i have already pointed the difference to u prashant ____________ _________ _________ __ gopal raju <gopalraju12@ > Friday, July 17, 2009 11:44:21 AM Re: Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. Dear Shri Vinay Bhai, I apologise for what I have stated. Secondly My intention is not to heart any body. I only quote what I have experienced in my 30 years career as a senior scientist, astrologer, writer, occultist etc. Now I knew that inspite of my books, writups, magazines, lectures etc. am a big ZERO. I always bent to intellect but I irritate ONLY with banner Gurus/Astrologers who claims for 100 % accuratete results and that too without proper knowledge of the subject. They are earning without justifying the things. I may be wrong in my concepts. Any way I do not want to fall in unwanted and objectionable argumentsts. Since I do not find fit for the esteemed group, kindly remove my name. Again with apologise, If I have heart anybody.Gopal Raju --- On Fri, 17/7/09, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > Re: Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. Friday, 17 July, 2009, 10:22 AM Gopal Raju ji, Please do not use words like " childish " for anyone. Rohini Ranjan Ji may sometimes appear to be joking, but he is a serious and senior astrologer. Your initial message would have invited more severe reaction from me than actually came from RR ji, but your later clarification removed some of the misgivings generated by vague aspersions on all astrologers made in your initial message ( " commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology " ). I never charged any fees for my astrological services and softwares. Why you suppose all astrologers are creating panic for exploiting commercially ? Are not many scientists cheating the nation by drawing huge sums from national excequer in the name of research producing fake results, which is a great crime in a poor nation where kids go to bed crying for food? Many scientists plagiarise researches of others. My works have been verified by NASA and IISc (can we know your credentials as a scientist, if it does not offend you?), and I know many scientists should be behind bars for what they are actually doing. Some of them are even involved in smuggling fissile material out of the country and are supplying sensitive weapons to naxalites and terrorists. But it does not mean all scientists are bad. Similarly, all astrologers are not bad. I hope you will be more gentle and clear in futue. We will certainly like to learn about your research, but not in a combative manner. -Vinay Jha ============ ========= ==== === ____________ _________ _________ __ Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com> Friday, July 17, 2009 5:45:45 AM Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. I like the adjective, Childish! From the mouth of babes shall man hear the truth and it shall irritate and offend him! Often readily and force him to question and thus grow ;-) So what advice must be given to the President of US, as requested below? RR , gopal raju <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > No Dear sir, your concepts are absolutely childish regarding color therapy. You are not aware of harmony theory of the celestril bodies. Karma and bhog theory is prime and destiny can not be changed, true, but kriyaman karma also work like a catalyst and may effect up to some extent. This depend on the expertise of the person who is analysing that catalyst. Persons like TV/Banner Guru etc. who are claiming 100 % results may be think of what they are. > I am not commercially exploiting sir. I am a Scientist and not superstitious as well , I claim what I experiment. I analyse gemstone considering more than 25 methos of occult science and claim yes 5, 10,20 or even more percent they are effectve. > Kindly read Gopal Raju and than conclude or make any concept for what I am stressing. > Sorry sir, if my words heart you. but I have to say this because I have dedicated my entire life for the occult. > Regards, > Gopal Raju > > --- On Thu, 18/6/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > Thursday, 18 June, 2009, 7:16 AM > > > Message below the quoted posting... > > , " Gopal Raju " <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > Dear all > > > > Remedial measures through more than 25 methods of Occult Sciences of analysing lucky gemstone is possible. My R & D oriented work, against commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology, > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > Gopal Raju ji! > > Thank God that you arrived on the scene! Now we all can relax and learn from your sharings! > > I hope I am not being presumptive but had they taken your advice, history would have been different, as we know it today: > > Diana would have not died, the way she did > > Rajiv Gandhi would not have died the way he did, nor his mother or brother > > Probably Saddam should have begged you for advice and he would not have died biting a MARS bar in a hole in the earth and had he received your gemstone advice, George Bush (JR.) would have been known today as the WISE one instead of just keeping the seat warm for one who may yet turn out to be so! > > What is your recommendation for Barack OBama? Which gemstone or gemstones should he wear and where should he write to seek your blessings? > > Rohiniranjan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Welcome back! You proved that we are irresistible! :-) I just remembered a very interesting road sign, I run into often as I drive to work etc! An advertising space on a Bus shelter and a park chair which we all drive by. They are all over the place! When I looked, they all stated: YOU JUST PROVED THAT ROADSIDE SIGNS WORK! I rest my case! Rohiniranjan , gopal raju <gopalraju12 wrote: > > Dear sir, > I was in the impression that the group is for intellectual interaction. > Now, I have no comments from my end. > Kindly remove my name from the group. > > Regards, > Gopal Raju > www.astrotantra4u.com > > --- On Fri, 17/7/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Re: Re: Gopal raju. > > Friday, 17 July, 2009, 2:03 PM > > > > > > > Gopal raju > > when u post messages in a public forum u must be aware it meets they eye of many ppl and i do hear u r sending private mails to members also > > and lanmguage is v important u need not be perfect but u can be simple and non controversial basically > > if u see our database section there u can advertise ur services group info > > pl avoid ref to it directly u r free to post here no issue as long as it is astroligical > > and commerce is not part of it > > AGAIN IT IS NOT HEARD u want to say it is HURT i have already pointed the difference to u > > prashant > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > gopal raju <gopalraju12@ > > > Friday, July 17, 2009 11:44:21 AM > Re: Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > Dear Shri Vinay Bhai, > I apologise for what I have stated. Secondly My intention is not to heart any body. I only quote what I have experienced in my 30 years career as a senior scientist, astrologer, writer, occultist etc. Now I knew that inspite of my books, writups, magazines, lectures etc. am a big ZERO. I always bent to intellect but I irritate ONLY with banner Gurus/Astrologers who claims for 100 % accuratete results and that too without proper knowledge of the subject. They are earning without justifying the things. I may be wrong in my concepts. > Any way I do not want to fall in unwanted and objectionable argumentsts. > Since I do not find fit for the esteemed group, kindly remove my name. > Again with apologise, If I have heart anybody.Gopal Raju > > --- On Fri, 17/7/09, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > > Re: Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > Friday, 17 July, 2009, 10:22 AM > > Gopal Raju ji, > > Please do not use words like " childish " for anyone. Rohini Ranjan Ji may sometimes appear to be joking, but he is a serious and senior astrologer. Your initial message would have invited more severe reaction from me than actually came from RR ji, but your later clarification removed some of the misgivings generated by vague aspersions on all astrologers made in your initial message ( " commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology " ). I never charged any fees for my astrological services and softwares. Why you suppose all astrologers are creating panic for exploiting commercially ? Are not many scientists cheating the nation by drawing huge sums from national excequer in the name of research producing fake results, which is a great crime in a poor nation where kids go to bed crying for food? Many scientists plagiarise researches of others. My works have been verified by NASA and IISc (can we know your credentials as a scientist, if it does not offend > you?), and I know many scientists should be behind bars for what they are actually doing. Some of them are even involved in smuggling fissile material out of the country and are supplying sensitive weapons to naxalites and terrorists. But it does not mean all scientists are bad. Similarly, all astrologers are not bad. > > I hope you will be more gentle and clear in futue. We will certainly like to learn about your research, but not in a combative manner. > > -Vinay Jha > ============ ========= ==== === > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com> > > Friday, July 17, 2009 5:45:45 AM > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > I like the adjective, Childish! > > From the mouth of babes shall man hear the truth and it shall irritate and offend him! Often readily and force him to question and thus grow ;-) > > So what advice must be given to the President of US, as requested below? > > RR > > , gopal raju <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > > No Dear sir, your concepts are absolutely childish regarding color therapy. You are not aware of harmony theory of the celestril bodies. Karma and bhog theory is prime and destiny can not be changed, true, but kriyaman karma also work like a catalyst and may effect up to some extent. This depend on the expertise of the person who is analysing that catalyst. Persons like TV/Banner Guru etc. who are claiming 100 % results may be think of what they are. > > I am not commercially exploiting sir. I am a Scientist and not superstitious as well , I claim what I experiment. I analyse gemstone considering more than 25 methos of occult science and claim yes 5, 10,20 or even more percent they are effectve. > > Kindly read Gopal Raju and than conclude or make any concept for what I am stressing. > > Sorry sir, if my words heart you. but I have to say this because I have dedicated my entire life for the occult. > > Regards, > > Gopal Raju > > > > --- On Thu, 18/6/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > > > Thursday, 18 June, 2009, 7:16 AM > > > > > > Message below the quoted posting... > > > > , " Gopal Raju " <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > > > Dear all > > > > > > Remedial measures through more than 25 methods of Occult Sciences of analysing lucky gemstone is possible. My R & D oriented work, against commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology, > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > > > > Gopal Raju ji! > > > > Thank God that you arrived on the scene! Now we all can relax and learn from your sharings! > > > > I hope I am not being presumptive but had they taken your advice, history would have been different, as we know it today: > > > > Diana would have not died, the way she did > > > > Rajiv Gandhi would not have died the way he did, nor his mother or brother > > > > Probably Saddam should have begged you for advice and he would not have died biting a MARS bar in a hole in the earth and had he received your gemstone advice, George Bush (JR.) would have been known today as the WISE one instead of just keeping the seat warm for one who may yet turn out to be so! > > > > What is your recommendation for Barack OBama? Which gemstone or gemstones should he wear and where should he write to seek your blessings? > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 gOPAL RAJU forums r for intellectual discussions only in this it can be topics, based or chart reading of some combinations or a question or two readings with some analysis, but claiming ur approach is scieitific and rest not is not fiar, also writing to memebrs privately -those who r members inforum write to them in the forum not privately unless sensitive info is involded here it was commercial info that ppl complained off. HENCE THE NOTE in last mail prashant ________________________________ gopal raju <gopalraju12 Friday, July 17, 2009 8:38:01 PM Re: Re: Gopal raju. Dear sir, I was in the impression that the group is for intellectual interaction. Now, I have no comments from my end. Kindly remove my name from the group. Regards, Gopal Raju www.astrotantra4u. com --- On Fri, 17/7/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Re: Re: Gopal raju. Friday, 17 July, 2009, 2:03 PM Gopal raju when u post messages in a public forum u must be aware it meets they eye of many ppl and i do hear u r sending private mails to members also and lanmguage is v important u need not be perfect but u can be simple and non controversial basically if u see our database section there u can advertise ur services group info pl avoid ref to it directly u r free to post here no issue as long as it is astroligical and commerce is not part of it AGAIN IT IS NOT HEARD u want to say it is HURT i have already pointed the difference to u prashant ____________ _________ _________ __ gopal raju <gopalraju12@ > Friday, July 17, 2009 11:44:21 AM Re: Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. Dear Shri Vinay Bhai, I apologise for what I have stated. Secondly My intention is not to heart any body. I only quote what I have experienced in my 30 years career as a senior scientist, astrologer, writer, occultist etc. Now I knew that inspite of my books, writups, magazines, lectures etc. am a big ZERO. I always bent to intellect but I irritate ONLY with banner Gurus/Astrologers who claims for 100 % accuratete results and that too without proper knowledge of the subject. They are earning without justifying the things. I may be wrong in my concepts. Any way I do not want to fall in unwanted and objectionable argumentsts. Since I do not find fit for the esteemed group, kindly remove my name. Again with apologise, If I have heart anybody.Gopal Raju --- On Fri, 17/7/09, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > Re: Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. Friday, 17 July, 2009, 10:22 AM Gopal Raju ji, Please do not use words like " childish " for anyone. Rohini Ranjan Ji may sometimes appear to be joking, but he is a serious and senior astrologer. Your initial message would have invited more severe reaction from me than actually came from RR ji, but your later clarification removed some of the misgivings generated by vague aspersions on all astrologers made in your initial message ( " commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology " ). I never charged any fees for my astrological services and softwares. Why you suppose all astrologers are creating panic for exploiting commercially ? Are not many scientists cheating the nation by drawing huge sums from national excequer in the name of research producing fake results, which is a great crime in a poor nation where kids go to bed crying for food? Many scientists plagiarise researches of others. My works have been verified by NASA and IISc (can we know your credentials as a scientist, if it does not offend you?), and I know many scientists should be behind bars for what they are actually doing. Some of them are even involved in smuggling fissile material out of the country and are supplying sensitive weapons to naxalites and terrorists. But it does not mean all scientists are bad. Similarly, all astrologers are not bad. I hope you will be more gentle and clear in futue. We will certainly like to learn about your research, but not in a combative manner. -Vinay Jha ============ ========= ==== === ____________ _________ _________ __ Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com> Friday, July 17, 2009 5:45:45 AM Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. I like the adjective, Childish! From the mouth of babes shall man hear the truth and it shall irritate and offend him! Often readily and force him to question and thus grow ;-) So what advice must be given to the President of US, as requested below? RR , gopal raju <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > No Dear sir, your concepts are absolutely childish regarding color therapy. You are not aware of harmony theory of the celestril bodies. Karma and bhog theory is prime and destiny can not be changed, true, but kriyaman karma also work like a catalyst and may effect up to some extent. This depend on the expertise of the person who is analysing that catalyst. Persons like TV/Banner Guru etc. who are claiming 100 % results may be think of what they are. > I am not commercially exploiting sir. I am a Scientist and not superstitious as well , I claim what I experiment. I analyse gemstone considering more than 25 methos of occult science and claim yes 5, 10,20 or even more percent they are effectve. > Kindly read Gopal Raju and than conclude or make any concept for what I am stressing. > Sorry sir, if my words heart you. but I have to say this because I have dedicated my entire life for the occult. > Regards, > Gopal Raju > > --- On Thu, 18/6/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > Thursday, 18 June, 2009, 7:16 AM > > > Message below the quoted posting... > > , " Gopal Raju " <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > Dear all > > > > Remedial measures through more than 25 methods of Occult Sciences of analysing lucky gemstone is possible. My R & D oriented work, against commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology, > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > Gopal Raju ji! > > Thank God that you arrived on the scene! Now we all can relax and learn from your sharings! > > I hope I am not being presumptive but had they taken your advice, history would have been different, as we know it today: > > Diana would have not died, the way she did > > Rajiv Gandhi would not have died the way he did, nor his mother or brother > > Probably Saddam should have begged you for advice and he would not have died biting a MARS bar in a hole in the earth and had he received your gemstone advice, George Bush (JR.) would have been known today as the WISE one instead of just keeping the seat warm for one who may yet turn out to be so! > > What is your recommendation for Barack OBama? Which gemstone or gemstones should he wear and where should he write to seek your blessings? > > Rohiniranjan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Gopal Ji, I repeat : " I hope you will be more gentle and clear in futue. We will certainly like to learn about your research, but not in a combative manner. " Your following comment is hostile for the whole group : " I was in the impression that the group is for intellectual interaction. Now, I have no comments from my end. Kindly remove my name from the group " You have shown no sign of any intellectual interaction, so far we have received only sarcastic remarks from you without being told what was our fault . Your comment suggests you are the only intellectual and ~9000 members of this group are non-intellectuals. -VJ ============================== ===== ________________________________ Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:26:20 AM Re: Gopal raju. Welcome back! You proved that we are irresistible! :-) I just remembered a very interesting road sign, I run into often as I drive to work etc! An advertising space on a Bus shelter and a park chair which we all drive by. They are all over the place! When I looked, they all stated: YOU JUST PROVED THAT ROADSIDE SIGNS WORK! I rest my case! Rohiniranjan , gopal raju <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > Dear sir, > I was in the impression that the group is for intellectual interaction. > Now, I have no comments from my end. > Kindly remove my name from the group. > > Regards, > Gopal Raju > www.astrotantra4u. com > > --- On Fri, 17/7/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote: > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..> > Re: Re: Gopal raju. > > Friday, 17 July, 2009, 2:03 PM Gopal raju > > when u post messages in a public forum u must be aware it meets they eye of many ppl and i do hear u r sending private mails to members also > > and lanmguage is v important u need not be perfect but u can be simple and non controversial basically > > if u see our database section there u can advertise ur services group info > > pl avoid ref to it directly u r free to post here no issue as long as it is astroligical > > and commerce is not part of it > > AGAIN IT IS NOT HEARD u want to say it is HURT i have already pointed the difference to u > > prashant > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > gopal raju <gopalraju12@ > > > Friday, July 17, 2009 11:44:21 AM > Re: Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > Dear Shri Vinay Bhai, > I apologise for what I have stated. Secondly My intention is not to heart any body. I only quote what I have experienced in my 30 years career as a senior scientist, astrologer, writer, occultist etc. Now I knew that inspite of my books, writups, magazines, lectures etc. am a big ZERO. I always bent to intellect but I irritate ONLY with banner Gurus/Astrologers who claims for 100 % accuratete results and that too without proper knowledge of the subject. They are earning without justifying the things. I may be wrong in my concepts. > Any way I do not want to fall in unwanted and objectionable argumentsts. > Since I do not find fit for the esteemed group, kindly remove my name. > Again with apologise, If I have heart anybody.Gopal Raju > > --- On Fri, 17/7/09, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > > Re: Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > Friday, 17 July, 2009, 10:22 AM > > Gopal Raju ji, > > Please do not use words like " childish " for anyone. Rohini Ranjan Ji may sometimes appear to be joking, but he is a serious and senior astrologer. Your initial message would have invited more severe reaction from me than actually came from RR ji, but your later clarification removed some of the misgivings generated by vague aspersions on all astrologers made in your initial message ( " commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology " ). I never charged any fees for my astrological services and softwares. Why you suppose all astrologers are creating panic for exploiting commercially ? Are not many scientists cheating the nation by drawing huge sums from national excequer in the name of research producing fake results, which is a great crime in a poor nation where kids go to bed crying for food? Many scientists plagiarise researches of others. My works have been verified by NASA and IISc (can we know your credentials as a scientist, if it does not offend > you?), and I know many scientists should be behind bars for what they are actually doing. Some of them are even involved in smuggling fissile material out of the country and are supplying sensitive weapons to naxalites and terrorists. But it does not mean all scientists are bad. Similarly, all astrologers are not bad. > > I hope you will be more gentle and clear in futue. We will certainly like to learn about your research, but not in a combative manner. > > -Vinay Jha > ============ ========= ==== === > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com> > > Friday, July 17, 2009 5:45:45 AM > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > I like the adjective, Childish! > > From the mouth of babes shall man hear the truth and it shall irritate and offend him! Often readily and force him to question and thus grow ;-) > > So what advice must be given to the President of US, as requested below? > > RR > > , gopal raju <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > > No Dear sir, your concepts are absolutely childish regarding color therapy. You are not aware of harmony theory of the celestril bodies. Karma and bhog theory is prime and destiny can not be changed, true, but kriyaman karma also work like a catalyst and may effect up to some extent. This depend on the expertise of the person who is analysing that catalyst. Persons like TV/Banner Guru etc. who are claiming 100 % results may be think of what they are. > > I am not commercially exploiting sir. I am a Scientist and not superstitious as well , I claim what I experiment. I analyse gemstone considering more than 25 methos of occult science and claim yes 5, 10,20 or even more percent they are effectve. > > Kindly read Gopal Raju and than conclude or make any concept for what I am stressing. > > Sorry sir, if my words heart you. but I have to say this because I have dedicated my entire life for the occult. > > Regards, > > Gopal Raju > > > > --- On Thu, 18/6/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > > > Thursday, 18 June, 2009, 7:16 AM > > > > > > Message below the quoted posting... > > > > , " Gopal Raju " <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > > > Dear all > > > > > > Remedial measures through more than 25 methods of Occult Sciences of analysing lucky gemstone is possible. My R & D oriented work, against commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology, > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > > > > Gopal Raju ji! > > > > Thank God that you arrived on the scene! Now we all can relax and learn from your sharings! > > > > I hope I am not being presumptive but had they taken your advice, history would have been different, as we know it today: > > > > Diana would have not died, the way she did > > > > Rajiv Gandhi would not have died the way he did, nor his mother or brother > > > > Probably Saddam should have begged you for advice and he would not have died biting a MARS bar in a hole in the earth and had he received your gemstone advice, George Bush (JR.) would have been known today as the WISE one instead of just keeping the seat warm for one who may yet turn out to be so! > > > > What is your recommendation for Barack OBama? Which gemstone or gemstones should he wear and where should he write to seek your blessings? > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Dear Vinay-ji! While addressing your message to Gopal Ji, you must have inadverantly clicked on a REPLY TO link to my message! I did not read it, of course beyond your salutation, but thought I must bring it to your attention! RR , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > Gopal Ji, > > I repeat : " I hope you will be more gentle and clear in futue. We will certainly > like to learn about your research, but not in a combative manner. " > > > Your following comment is hostile for the whole group : " I was in the impression that the group is for intellectual interaction. Now, I have no comments from my end. Kindly remove my name from the group " > > You have shown no sign of any intellectual interaction, so far we have received only sarcastic remarks from you without being told what was our fault . Your comment suggests you are the only intellectual and ~9000 members of this group are non-intellectuals. > > -VJ > ============================== ===== > > > ________________________________ > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan > > Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:26:20 AM > Re: Gopal raju. > > > Welcome back! > > You proved that we are irresistible! :-) > > I just remembered a very interesting road sign, I run into often as I drive to work etc! > > An advertising space on a Bus shelter and a park chair which we all drive by. They are all over the place! > > When I looked, they all stated: YOU JUST PROVED THAT ROADSIDE SIGNS WORK! > > I rest my case! > > Rohiniranjan > > , gopal raju <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear sir, > > I was in the impression that the group is for intellectual interaction. > > Now, I have no comments from my end. > > Kindly remove my name from the group. > > > > Regards, > > Gopal Raju > > www.astrotantra4u. com > > > > --- On Fri, 17/7/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..> > > Re: Re: Gopal raju. > > > > Friday, 17 July, 2009, 2:03 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal raju > > > > when u post messages in a public forum u must be aware it meets they eye of many ppl and i do hear u r sending private mails to members also > > > > and lanmguage is v important u need not be perfect but u can be simple and non controversial basically > > > > if u see our database section there u can advertise ur services group info > > > > pl avoid ref to it directly u r free to post here no issue as long as it is astroligical > > > > and commerce is not part of it > > > > AGAIN IT IS NOT HEARD u want to say it is HURT i have already pointed the difference to u > > > > prashant > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > gopal raju <gopalraju12@ > > > > > Friday, July 17, 2009 11:44:21 AM > > Re: Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > > > Dear Shri Vinay Bhai, > > I apologise for what I have stated. Secondly My intention is not to heart any body. I only quote what I have experienced in my 30 years career as a senior scientist, astrologer, writer, occultist etc. Now I knew that inspite of my books, writups, magazines, lectures etc. am a big ZERO. I always bent to intellect but I irritate ONLY with banner Gurus/Astrologers who claims for 100 % accuratete results and that too without proper knowledge of the subject. They are earning without justifying the things. I may be wrong in my concepts. > > Any way I do not want to fall in unwanted and objectionable argumentsts. > > Since I do not find fit for the esteemed group, kindly remove my name. > > Again with apologise, If I have heart anybody.Gopal Raju > > > > --- On Fri, 17/7/09, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > > > Re: Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > > > Friday, 17 July, 2009, 10:22 AM > > > > Gopal Raju ji, > > > > Please do not use words like " childish " for anyone. Rohini Ranjan Ji may sometimes appear to be joking, but he is a serious and senior astrologer. Your initial message would have invited more severe reaction from me than actually came from RR ji, but your later clarification removed some of the misgivings generated by vague aspersions on all astrologers made in your initial message ( " commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology " ). I never charged any fees for my astrological services and softwares. Why you suppose all astrologers are creating panic for exploiting commercially ? Are not many scientists cheating the nation by drawing huge sums from national excequer in the name of research producing fake results, which is a great crime in a poor nation where kids go to bed crying for food? Many scientists plagiarise researches of others. My works have been verified by NASA and IISc (can we know your credentials as a scientist, if it does not > offend > > you?), and I know many scientists should be behind bars for what they are actually doing. Some of them are even involved in smuggling fissile material out of the country and are supplying sensitive weapons to naxalites and terrorists. But it does not mean all scientists are bad. Similarly, all astrologers are not bad. > > > > I hope you will be more gentle and clear in futue. We will certainly like to learn about your research, but not in a combative manner. > > > > -Vinay Jha > > ============ ========= ==== === > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com> > > > > Friday, July 17, 2009 5:45:45 AM > > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > > > I like the adjective, Childish! > > > > From the mouth of babes shall man hear the truth and it shall irritate and offend him! Often readily and force him to question and thus grow ;-) > > > > So what advice must be given to the President of US, as requested below? > > > > RR > > > > , gopal raju <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > No Dear sir, your concepts are absolutely childish regarding color therapy. You are not aware of harmony theory of the celestril bodies. Karma and bhog theory is prime and destiny can not be changed, true, but kriyaman karma also work like a catalyst and may effect up to some extent. This depend on the expertise of the person who is analysing that catalyst. Persons like TV/Banner Guru etc. who are claiming 100 % results may be think of what they are. > > > I am not commercially exploiting sir. I am a Scientist and not superstitious as well , I claim what I experiment. I analyse gemstone considering more than 25 methos of occult science and claim yes 5, 10,20 or even more percent they are effectve. > > > Kindly read Gopal Raju and than conclude or make any concept for what I am stressing. > > > Sorry sir, if my words heart you. but I have to say this because I have dedicated my entire life for the occult. > > > Regards, > > > Gopal Raju > > > > > > --- On Thu, 18/6/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > > > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > > > > > Thursday, 18 June, 2009, 7:16 AM > > > > > > > > > Message below the quoted posting... > > > > > > , " Gopal Raju " <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear all > > > > > > > > Remedial measures through more than 25 methods of Occult Sciences of analysing lucky gemstone is possible. My R & D oriented work, against commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju ji! > > > > > > Thank God that you arrived on the scene! Now we all can relax and learn from your sharings! > > > > > > I hope I am not being presumptive but had they taken your advice, history would have been different, as we know it today: > > > > > > Diana would have not died, the way she did > > > > > > Rajiv Gandhi would not have died the way he did, nor his mother or brother > > > > > > Probably Saddam should have begged you for advice and he would not have died biting a MARS bar in a hole in the earth and had he received your gemstone advice, George Bush (JR.) would have been known today as the WISE one instead of just keeping the seat warm for one who may yet turn out to be so! > > > > > > What is your recommendation for Barack OBama? Which gemstone or gemstones should he wear and where should he write to seek your blessings? > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Dada, It was for you too (not necessarily !), and for all others as well, and was not a mistake. I hoped Gopal Ji will remain in the group and will interact " intellectually " . I still wish him here. -VJ ===================== == ________________________________ Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Saturday, July 18, 2009 1:37:42 PM Re: Gopal raju. Dear Vinay-ji! While addressing your message to Gopal Ji, you must have inadverantly clicked on a REPLY TO link to my message! I did not read it, of course beyond your salutation, but thought I must bring it to your attention! RR , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > Gopal Ji, > > I repeat : " I hope you will be more gentle and clear in futue. We will certainly > like to learn about your research, but not in a combative manner. " > > > Your following comment is hostile for the whole group : " I was in the impression that the group is for intellectual interaction. Now, I have no comments from my end. Kindly remove my name from the group " > > You have shown no sign of any intellectual interaction, so far we have received only sarcastic remarks from you without being told what was our fault . Your comment suggests you are the only intellectual and ~9000 members of this group are non-intellectuals. > > -VJ > ============ ========= ========= ===== > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > > Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:26:20 AM > Re: Gopal raju. > > > Welcome back! > > You proved that we are irresistible! :-) > > I just remembered a very interesting road sign, I run into often as I drive to work etc! > > An advertising space on a Bus shelter and a park chair which we all drive by. They are all over the place! > > When I looked, they all stated: YOU JUST PROVED THAT ROADSIDE SIGNS WORK! > > I rest my case! > > Rohiniranjan > > , gopal raju <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear sir, > > I was in the impression that the group is for intellectual interaction. > > Now, I have no comments from my end. > > Kindly remove my name from the group. > > > > Regards, > > Gopal Raju > > www.astrotantra4u. com > > > > --- On Fri, 17/7/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..> > > Re: Re: Gopal raju. > > > > Friday, 17 July, 2009, 2:03 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal raju > > > > when u post messages in a public forum u must be aware it meets they eye of many ppl and i do hear u r sending private mails to members also > > > > and lanmguage is v important u need not be perfect but u can be simple and non controversial basically > > > > if u see our database section there u can advertise ur services group info > > > > pl avoid ref to it directly u r free to post here no issue as long as it is astroligical > > > > and commerce is not part of it > > > > AGAIN IT IS NOT HEARD u want to say it is HURT i have already pointed the difference to u > > > > prashant > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > gopal raju <gopalraju12@ > > > > > Friday, July 17, 2009 11:44:21 AM > > Re: Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > > > Dear Shri Vinay Bhai, > > I apologise for what I have stated. Secondly My intention is not to heart any body. I only quote what I have experienced in my 30 years career as a senior scientist, astrologer, writer, occultist etc. Now I knew that inspite of my books, writups, magazines, lectures etc. am a big ZERO. I always bent to intellect but I irritate ONLY with banner Gurus/Astrologers who claims for 100 % accuratete results and that too without proper knowledge of the subject. They are earning without justifying the things. I may be wrong in my concepts. > > Any way I do not want to fall in unwanted and objectionable argumentsts. > > Since I do not find fit for the esteemed group, kindly remove my name. > > Again with apologise, If I have heart anybody.Gopal Raju > > > > --- On Fri, 17/7/09, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > > > Re: Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > > > Friday, 17 July, 2009, 10:22 AM > > > > Gopal Raju ji, > > > > Please do not use words like " childish " for anyone. Rohini Ranjan Ji may sometimes appear to be joking, but he is a serious and senior astrologer. Your initial message would have invited more severe reaction from me than actually came from RR ji, but your later clarification removed some of the misgivings generated by vague aspersions on all astrologers made in your initial message ( " commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology " ). I never charged any fees for my astrological services and softwares. Why you suppose all astrologers are creating panic for exploiting commercially ? Are not many scientists cheating the nation by drawing huge sums from national excequer in the name of research producing fake results, which is a great crime in a poor nation where kids go to bed crying for food? Many scientists plagiarise researches of others. My works have been verified by NASA and IISc (can we know your credentials as a scientist, if it does not > offend > > you?), and I know many scientists should be behind bars for what they are actually doing. Some of them are even involved in smuggling fissile material out of the country and are supplying sensitive weapons to naxalites and terrorists. But it does not mean all scientists are bad. Similarly, all astrologers are not bad. > > > > I hope you will be more gentle and clear in futue. We will certainly like to learn about your research, but not in a combative manner. > > > > -Vinay Jha > > ============ ========= ==== === > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com> > > > > Friday, July 17, 2009 5:45:45 AM > > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > > > I like the adjective, Childish! > > > > From the mouth of babes shall man hear the truth and it shall irritate and offend him! Often readily and force him to question and thus grow ;-) > > > > So what advice must be given to the President of US, as requested below? > > > > RR > > > > , gopal raju <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > No Dear sir, your concepts are absolutely childish regarding color therapy. You are not aware of harmony theory of the celestril bodies. Karma and bhog theory is prime and destiny can not be changed, true, but kriyaman karma also work like a catalyst and may effect up to some extent. This depend on the expertise of the person who is analysing that catalyst. Persons like TV/Banner Guru etc. who are claiming 100 % results may be think of what they are. > > > I am not commercially exploiting sir. I am a Scientist and not superstitious as well , I claim what I experiment. I analyse gemstone considering more than 25 methos of occult science and claim yes 5, 10,20 or even more percent they are effectve. > > > Kindly read Gopal Raju and than conclude or make any concept for what I am stressing. > > > Sorry sir, if my words heart you. but I have to say this because I have dedicated my entire life for the occult. > > > Regards, > > > Gopal Raju > > > > > > --- On Thu, 18/6/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > > > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > > > > > Thursday, 18 June, 2009, 7:16 AM > > > > > > > > > Message below the quoted posting... > > > > > > , " Gopal Raju " <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear all > > > > > > > > Remedial measures through more than 25 methods of Occult Sciences of analysing lucky gemstone is possible. My R & D oriented work, against commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju ji! > > > > > > Thank God that you arrived on the scene! Now we all can relax and learn from your sharings! > > > > > > I hope I am not being presumptive but had they taken your advice, history would have been different, as we know it today: > > > > > > Diana would have not died, the way she did > > > > > > Rajiv Gandhi would not have died the way he did, nor his mother or brother > > > > > > Probably Saddam should have begged you for advice and he would not have died biting a MARS bar in a hole in the earth and had he received your gemstone advice, George Bush (JR.) would have been known today as the WISE one instead of just keeping the seat warm for one who may yet turn out to be so! > > > > > > What is your recommendation for Barack OBama? Which gemstone or gemstones should he wear and where should he write to seek your blessings? > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Dada, It was for you too (not necessarily !), and for all others as well, and was not a mistake. I hoped Gopal Ji will remain in the group and will interact " intellectually " . I still wish him here. -VJ ===================== == ________________________________ Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Saturday, July 18, 2009 1:37:42 PM Re: Gopal raju. Dear Vinay-ji! While addressing your message to Gopal Ji, you must have inadverantly clicked on a REPLY TO link to my message! I did not read it, of course beyond your salutation, but thought I must bring it to your attention! RR , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > Gopal Ji, > > I repeat : " I hope you will be more gentle and clear in futue. We will certainly > like to learn about your research, but not in a combative manner. " > > > Your following comment is hostile for the whole group : " I was in the impression that the group is for intellectual interaction. Now, I have no comments from my end. Kindly remove my name from the group " > > You have shown no sign of any intellectual interaction, so far we have received only sarcastic remarks from you without being told what was our fault . Your comment suggests you are the only intellectual and ~9000 members of this group are non-intellectuals. > > -VJ > ============ ========= ========= ===== > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > > Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:26:20 AM > Re: Gopal raju. > > > Welcome back! > > You proved that we are irresistible! :-) > > I just remembered a very interesting road sign, I run into often as I drive to work etc! > > An advertising space on a Bus shelter and a park chair which we all drive by. They are all over the place! > > When I looked, they all stated: YOU JUST PROVED THAT ROADSIDE SIGNS WORK! > > I rest my case! > > Rohiniranjan > > , gopal raju <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear sir, > > I was in the impression that the group is for intellectual interaction. > > Now, I have no comments from my end. > > Kindly remove my name from the group. > > > > Regards, > > Gopal Raju > > www.astrotantra4u. com > > > > --- On Fri, 17/7/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..> > > Re: Re: Gopal raju. > > > > Friday, 17 July, 2009, 2:03 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal raju > > > > when u post messages in a public forum u must be aware it meets they eye of many ppl and i do hear u r sending private mails to members also > > > > and lanmguage is v important u need not be perfect but u can be simple and non controversial basically > > > > if u see our database section there u can advertise ur services group info > > > > pl avoid ref to it directly u r free to post here no issue as long as it is astroligical > > > > and commerce is not part of it > > > > AGAIN IT IS NOT HEARD u want to say it is HURT i have already pointed the difference to u > > > > prashant > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > gopal raju <gopalraju12@ > > > > > Friday, July 17, 2009 11:44:21 AM > > Re: Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > > > Dear Shri Vinay Bhai, > > I apologise for what I have stated. Secondly My intention is not to heart any body. I only quote what I have experienced in my 30 years career as a senior scientist, astrologer, writer, occultist etc. Now I knew that inspite of my books, writups, magazines, lectures etc. am a big ZERO. I always bent to intellect but I irritate ONLY with banner Gurus/Astrologers who claims for 100 % accuratete results and that too without proper knowledge of the subject. They are earning without justifying the things. I may be wrong in my concepts. > > Any way I do not want to fall in unwanted and objectionable argumentsts. > > Since I do not find fit for the esteemed group, kindly remove my name. > > Again with apologise, If I have heart anybody.Gopal Raju > > > > --- On Fri, 17/7/09, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > > > Re: Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > > > Friday, 17 July, 2009, 10:22 AM > > > > Gopal Raju ji, > > > > Please do not use words like " childish " for anyone. Rohini Ranjan Ji may sometimes appear to be joking, but he is a serious and senior astrologer. Your initial message would have invited more severe reaction from me than actually came from RR ji, but your later clarification removed some of the misgivings generated by vague aspersions on all astrologers made in your initial message ( " commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology " ). I never charged any fees for my astrological services and softwares. Why you suppose all astrologers are creating panic for exploiting commercially ? Are not many scientists cheating the nation by drawing huge sums from national excequer in the name of research producing fake results, which is a great crime in a poor nation where kids go to bed crying for food? Many scientists plagiarise researches of others. My works have been verified by NASA and IISc (can we know your credentials as a scientist, if it does not > offend > > you?), and I know many scientists should be behind bars for what they are actually doing. Some of them are even involved in smuggling fissile material out of the country and are supplying sensitive weapons to naxalites and terrorists. But it does not mean all scientists are bad. Similarly, all astrologers are not bad. > > > > I hope you will be more gentle and clear in futue. We will certainly like to learn about your research, but not in a combative manner. > > > > -Vinay Jha > > ============ ========= ==== === > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com> > > > > Friday, July 17, 2009 5:45:45 AM > > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > > > I like the adjective, Childish! > > > > From the mouth of babes shall man hear the truth and it shall irritate and offend him! Often readily and force him to question and thus grow ;-) > > > > So what advice must be given to the President of US, as requested below? > > > > RR > > > > , gopal raju <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > No Dear sir, your concepts are absolutely childish regarding color therapy. You are not aware of harmony theory of the celestril bodies. Karma and bhog theory is prime and destiny can not be changed, true, but kriyaman karma also work like a catalyst and may effect up to some extent. This depend on the expertise of the person who is analysing that catalyst. Persons like TV/Banner Guru etc. who are claiming 100 % results may be think of what they are. > > > I am not commercially exploiting sir. I am a Scientist and not superstitious as well , I claim what I experiment. I analyse gemstone considering more than 25 methos of occult science and claim yes 5, 10,20 or even more percent they are effectve. > > > Kindly read Gopal Raju and than conclude or make any concept for what I am stressing. > > > Sorry sir, if my words heart you. but I have to say this because I have dedicated my entire life for the occult. > > > Regards, > > > Gopal Raju > > > > > > --- On Thu, 18/6/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > > > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > > > > > Thursday, 18 June, 2009, 7:16 AM > > > > > > > > > Message below the quoted posting... > > > > > > , " Gopal Raju " <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear all > > > > > > > > Remedial measures through more than 25 methods of Occult Sciences of analysing lucky gemstone is possible. My R & D oriented work, against commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju ji! > > > > > > Thank God that you arrived on the scene! Now we all can relax and learn from your sharings! > > > > > > I hope I am not being presumptive but had they taken your advice, history would have been different, as we know it today: > > > > > > Diana would have not died, the way she did > > > > > > Rajiv Gandhi would not have died the way he did, nor his mother or brother > > > > > > Probably Saddam should have begged you for advice and he would not have died biting a MARS bar in a hole in the earth and had he received your gemstone advice, George Bush (JR.) would have been known today as the WISE one instead of just keeping the seat warm for one who may yet turn out to be so! > > > > > > What is your recommendation for Barack OBama? Which gemstone or gemstones should he wear and where should he write to seek your blessings? > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Dear Vinay-ji, Sadly enough, " INTELLECT " is oft misused. Both the " term " as well as the 'GIFT'. RR , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > Dada, > > It was for you too (not necessarily !), and for all others as well, and was not a mistake. I hoped Gopal Ji will remain in the group and will interact " intellectually " . I still wish him here. > > -VJ > > ===================== == > > > ________________________________ > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan > > Saturday, July 18, 2009 1:37:42 PM > Re: Gopal raju. > > > Dear Vinay-ji! > > While addressing your message to Gopal Ji, you must have inadverantly clicked on a REPLY TO link to my message! > > I did not read it, of course beyond your salutation, but thought I must bring it to your attention! > > RR > > , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > > > Gopal Ji, > > > > I repeat : " I hope you will be more gentle and clear in futue. We will certainly > > like to learn about your research, but not in a combative manner. " > > > > > > Your following comment is hostile for the whole group : " I was in the impression that the group is for intellectual interaction. Now, I have no comments from my end. Kindly remove my name from the group " > > > > You have shown no sign of any intellectual interaction, so far we have received only sarcastic remarks from you without being told what was our fault . Your comment suggests you are the only intellectual and ~9000 members of this group are non-intellectuals. > > > > -VJ > > ============ ========= ========= ===== > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > > > > Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:26:20 AM > > Re: Gopal raju. > > > > > > Welcome back! > > > > You proved that we are irresistible! :-) > > > > I just remembered a very interesting road sign, I run into often as I drive to work etc! > > > > An advertising space on a Bus shelter and a park chair which we all drive by. They are all over the place! > > > > When I looked, they all stated: YOU JUST PROVED THAT ROADSIDE SIGNS WORK! > > > > I rest my case! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , gopal raju <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear sir, > > > I was in the impression that the group is for intellectual interaction. > > > Now, I have no comments from my end. > > > Kindly remove my name from the group. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Gopal Raju > > > www.astrotantra4u. com > > > > > > --- On Fri, 17/7/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..> > > > Re: Re: Gopal raju. > > > > > > Friday, 17 July, 2009, 2:03 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal raju > > > > > > when u post messages in a public forum u must be aware it meets they eye of many ppl and i do hear u r sending private mails to members also > > > > > > and lanmguage is v important u need not be perfect but u can be simple and non controversial basically > > > > > > if u see our database section there u can advertise ur services group info > > > > > > pl avoid ref to it directly u r free to post here no issue as long as it is astroligical > > > > > > and commerce is not part of it > > > > > > AGAIN IT IS NOT HEARD u want to say it is HURT i have already pointed the difference to u > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > gopal raju <gopalraju12@ > > > > > > > Friday, July 17, 2009 11:44:21 AM > > > Re: Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > > > > > Dear Shri Vinay Bhai, > > > I apologise for what I have stated. Secondly My intention is not to heart any body. I only quote what I have experienced in my 30 years career as a senior scientist, astrologer, writer, occultist etc. Now I knew that inspite of my books, writups, magazines, lectures etc. am a big ZERO. I always bent to intellect but I irritate ONLY with banner Gurus/Astrologers who claims for 100 % accuratete results and that too without proper knowledge of the subject. They are earning without justifying the things. I may be wrong in my concepts. > > > Any way I do not want to fall in unwanted and objectionable argumentsts. > > > Since I do not find fit for the esteemed group, kindly remove my name. > > > Again with apologise, If I have heart anybody.Gopal Raju > > > > > > --- On Fri, 17/7/09, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > > > > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > > > > Re: Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > > > > > Friday, 17 July, 2009, 10:22 AM > > > > > > Gopal Raju ji, > > > > > > Please do not use words like " childish " for anyone. Rohini Ranjan Ji may sometimes appear to be joking, but he is a serious and senior astrologer. Your initial message would have invited more severe reaction from me than actually came from RR ji, but your later clarification removed some of the misgivings generated by vague aspersions on all astrologers made in your initial message ( " commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology " ). I never charged any fees for my astrological services and softwares. Why you suppose all astrologers are creating panic for exploiting commercially ? Are not many scientists cheating the nation by drawing huge sums from national excequer in the name of research producing fake results, which is a great crime in a poor nation where kids go to bed crying for food? Many scientists plagiarise researches of others. My works have been verified by NASA and IISc (can we know your credentials as a scientist, if it does not > > offend > > > you?), and I know many scientists should be behind bars for what they are actually doing. Some of them are even involved in smuggling fissile material out of the country and are supplying sensitive weapons to naxalites and terrorists. But it does not mean all scientists are bad. Similarly, all astrologers are not bad. > > > > > > I hope you will be more gentle and clear in futue. We will certainly like to learn about your research, but not in a combative manner. > > > > > > -Vinay Jha > > > ============ ========= ==== === > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com> > > > > > > Friday, July 17, 2009 5:45:45 AM > > > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > > > > > I like the adjective, Childish! > > > > > > From the mouth of babes shall man hear the truth and it shall irritate and offend him! Often readily and force him to question and thus grow ;-) > > > > > > So what advice must be given to the President of US, as requested below? > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , gopal raju <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > No Dear sir, your concepts are absolutely childish regarding color therapy. You are not aware of harmony theory of the celestril bodies. Karma and bhog theory is prime and destiny can not be changed, true, but kriyaman karma also work like a catalyst and may effect up to some extent. This depend on the expertise of the person who is analysing that catalyst. Persons like TV/Banner Guru etc. who are claiming 100 % results may be think of what they are. > > > > I am not commercially exploiting sir. I am a Scientist and not superstitious as well , I claim what I experiment. I analyse gemstone considering more than 25 methos of occult science and claim yes 5, 10,20 or even more percent they are effectve. > > > > Kindly read Gopal Raju and than conclude or make any concept for what I am stressing. > > > > Sorry sir, if my words heart you. but I have to say this because I have dedicated my entire life for the occult. > > > > Regards, > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 18/6/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > > > > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > > > > > > > Thursday, 18 June, 2009, 7:16 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Message below the quoted posting... > > > > > > > > , " Gopal Raju " <gopalraju12@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear all > > > > > > > > > > Remedial measures through more than 25 methods of Occult Sciences of analysing lucky gemstone is possible. My R & D oriented work, against commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > > > > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju ji! > > > > > > > > Thank God that you arrived on the scene! Now we all can relax and learn from your sharings! > > > > > > > > I hope I am not being presumptive but had they taken your advice, history would have been different, as we know it today: > > > > > > > > Diana would have not died, the way she did > > > > > > > > Rajiv Gandhi would not have died the way he did, nor his mother or brother > > > > > > > > Probably Saddam should have begged you for advice and he would not have died biting a MARS bar in a hole in the earth and had he received your gemstone advice, George Bush (JR.) would have been known today as the WISE one instead of just keeping the seat warm for one who may yet turn out to be so! > > > > > > > > What is your recommendation for Barack OBama? Which gemstone or gemstones should he wear and where should he write to seek your blessings? > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Sh VJ Bahi, Nothing is in my mind. In spite of senior most (Age wise), I always salute/bow my head to intellect, greatness and gentleness. I am never away from the group. I am still with you all and pray for the healthy popularity of the esteemed group. I have dedicated my life to occult, spirituality etc after leaving Class I Central Govt job as a Scientist only for humanity and to help really needy mass through my lectures, books, articles etc., against commercial exploitation, throughout the country. Gopal Raju Scientist n Occultist A message to all occult lovers for further R & D against panic I have received a copy of the book " Hercolubus or Red Planet " Author has mentioned therein, " What I am affirming in this book is a prophecy that will be fulfilled shortly, because I am certain about the end of the planet; I know it. I am not frightening, but warning, because I am distressed about this poor humanity. These events will not be long in coming and there is no time to waste with illusory things. " Any body interested for further deatails may plz contact or login for free literature at : infohercolubus www.planetahercolubus.com www.hercolubus.tv --- On Sat, 18/7/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Re: Gopal raju. Saturday, 18 July, 2009, 5:19 PM Dear Vinay-ji, Sadly enough, " INTELLECT " is oft misused. Both the " term " as well as the 'GIFT'. RR , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > Dada, > > It was for you too (not necessarily !), and for all others as well, and was not a mistake. I hoped Gopal Ji will remain in the group and will interact " intellectually " . I still wish him here. > > -VJ > > ============ ========= == > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > > Saturday, July 18, 2009 1:37:42 PM > Re: Gopal raju. > > > Dear Vinay-ji! > > While addressing your message to Gopal Ji, you must have inadverantly clicked on a REPLY TO link to my message! > > I did not read it, of course beyond your salutation, but thought I must bring it to your attention! > > RR > > , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > > > Gopal Ji, > > > > I repeat : " I hope you will be more gentle and clear in futue. We will certainly > > like to learn about your research, but not in a combative manner. " > > > > > > Your following comment is hostile for the whole group : " I was in the impression that the group is for intellectual interaction. Now, I have no comments from my end. Kindly remove my name from the group " > > > > You have shown no sign of any intellectual interaction, so far we have received only sarcastic remarks from you without being told what was our fault . Your comment suggests you are the only intellectual and ~9000 members of this group are non-intellectuals. > > > > -VJ > > ============ ========= ========= ===== > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > > > > Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:26:20 AM > > Re: Gopal raju. > > > > > > Welcome back! > > > > You proved that we are irresistible! :-) > > > > I just remembered a very interesting road sign, I run into often as I drive to work etc! > > > > An advertising space on a Bus shelter and a park chair which we all drive by. They are all over the place! > > > > When I looked, they all stated: YOU JUST PROVED THAT ROADSIDE SIGNS WORK! > > > > I rest my case! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , gopal raju <gopalraju12@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear sir, > > > I was in the impression that the group is for intellectual interaction. > > > Now, I have no comments from my end. > > > Kindly remove my name from the group. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Gopal Raju > > > www.astrotantra4u. com > > > > > > --- On Fri, 17/7/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..> > > > Re: Re: Gopal raju. > > > > > > Friday, 17 July, 2009, 2:03 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal raju > > > > > > when u post messages in a public forum u must be aware it meets they eye of many ppl and i do hear u r sending private mails to members also > > > > > > and lanmguage is v important u need not be perfect but u can be simple and non controversial basically > > > > > > if u see our database section there u can advertise ur services group info > > > > > > pl avoid ref to it directly u r free to post here no issue as long as it is astroligical > > > > > > and commerce is not part of it > > > > > > AGAIN IT IS NOT HEARD u want to say it is HURT i have already pointed the difference to u > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > gopal raju <gopalraju12@ > > > > > > > Friday, July 17, 2009 11:44:21 AM > > > Re: Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > > > > > Dear Shri Vinay Bhai, > > > I apologise for what I have stated. Secondly My intention is not to heart any body. I only quote what I have experienced in my 30 years career as a senior scientist, astrologer, writer, occultist etc. Now I knew that inspite of my books, writups, magazines, lectures etc. am a big ZERO. I always bent to intellect but I irritate ONLY with banner Gurus/Astrologers who claims for 100 % accuratete results and that too without proper knowledge of the subject. They are earning without justifying the things. I may be wrong in my concepts. > > > Any way I do not want to fall in unwanted and objectionable argumentsts. > > > Since I do not find fit for the esteemed group, kindly remove my name.. > > > Again with apologise, If I have heart anybody.Gopal Raju > > > > > > --- On Fri, 17/7/09, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > > > > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > > > > Re: Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > > > > > Friday, 17 July, 2009, 10:22 AM > > > > > > Gopal Raju ji, > > > > > > Please do not use words like " childish " for anyone. Rohini Ranjan Ji may sometimes appear to be joking, but he is a serious and senior astrologer. Your initial message would have invited more severe reaction from me than actually came from RR ji, but your later clarification removed some of the misgivings generated by vague aspersions on all astrologers made in your initial message ( " commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology " ). I never charged any fees for my astrological services and softwares. Why you suppose all astrologers are creating panic for exploiting commercially ? Are not many scientists cheating the nation by drawing huge sums from national excequer in the name of research producing fake results, which is a great crime in a poor nation where kids go to bed crying for food? Many scientists plagiarise researches of others. My works have been verified by NASA and IISc (can we know your credentials as a scientist, if it does not > > offend > > > you?), and I know many scientists should be behind bars for what they are actually doing. Some of them are even involved in smuggling fissile material out of the country and are supplying sensitive weapons to naxalites and terrorists. But it does not mean all scientists are bad. Similarly, all astrologers are not bad. > > > > > > I hope you will be more gentle and clear in futue. We will certainly like to learn about your research, but not in a combative manner. > > > > > > -Vinay Jha > > > ============ ========= ==== === > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com> > > > > > > Friday, July 17, 2009 5:45:45 AM > > > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > > > > > I like the adjective, Childish! > > > > > > From the mouth of babes shall man hear the truth and it shall irritate and offend him! Often readily and force him to question and thus grow ;-) > > > > > > So what advice must be given to the President of US, as requested below? > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , gopal raju <gopalraju12@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > No Dear sir, your concepts are absolutely childish regarding color therapy. You are not aware of harmony theory of the celestril bodies. Karma and bhog theory is prime and destiny can not be changed, true, but kriyaman karma also work like a catalyst and may effect up to some extent. This depend on the expertise of the person who is analysing that catalyst. Persons like TV/Banner Guru etc. who are claiming 100 % results may be think of what they are. > > > > I am not commercially exploiting sir. I am a Scientist and not superstitious as well , I claim what I experiment. I analyse gemstone considering more than 25 methos of occult science and claim yes 5, 10,20 or even more percent they are effectve. > > > > Kindly read Gopal Raju and than conclude or make any concept for what I am stressing. > > > > Sorry sir, if my words heart you. but I have to say this because I have dedicated my entire life for the occult. > > > > Regards, > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 18/6/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > > > > Re: gemstone should get the least priority in remedial measures. > > > > > > > > Thursday, 18 June, 2009, 7:16 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Message below the quoted posting... > > > > > > > > , " Gopal Raju " <gopalraju12@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear all > > > > > > > > > > Remedial measures through more than 25 methods of Occult Sciences of analysing lucky gemstone is possible. My R & D oriented work, against commercial exploitation and panic creating astrology, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > > > > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju ji! > > > > > > > > Thank God that you arrived on the scene! Now we all can relax and learn from your sharings! > > > > > > > > I hope I am not being presumptive but had they taken your advice, history would have been different, as we know it today: > > > > > > > > Diana would have not died, the way she did > > > > > > > > Rajiv Gandhi would not have died the way he did, nor his mother or brother > > > > > > > > Probably Saddam should have begged you for advice and he would not have died biting a MARS bar in a hole in the earth and had he received your gemstone advice, George Bush (JR.) would have been known today as the WISE one instead of just keeping the seat warm for one who may yet turn out to be so! > > > > > > > > What is your recommendation for Barack OBama? Which gemstone or gemstones should he wear and where should he write to seek your blessings? > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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