astro explorer, sbm_sharma, vkkholi Msg 62563- 2 chances

July 25, 2009

Dear Harr ji,

the fact of the MATTER IS I will not allow such things to happen in normal

course, If u r a member in other groups where Bhaskar ji is u will see how he

has attacked me, and the owner of this esteemed group by not allowing him a

chance to reply to msgs that involve him

I HAVE ALSO SAID I HAVE ALLOWED THE SAME SPIRIT OF DEMOCRACY THE FOUNDING OWNER

Sri TANVIR JI HAD WHILE FORMING THIS FORUM, in other forums the akhda members

have a one sided attack on the victims

here i clearly said I will give just 2 chances each and CLOSE THE THREAT for

good.

I HAVE CLEARLY SAID SBM_SHARMA is a old ID much before i came in in a forum that

gets 40-50 msgs a day it is impossible to see all mails, it is like putting all

uder a scanner is this democracy or dictatorship?

we will allow free spech BOT SIDES and close it

It pains me to see such happenings am sure th eowner too will feel the same way

I have suffered from the groups who have been singled me out along with otnwer

of the forum here and in VA too, whom i have time and again defended as much

better elevated and purpouseful souls than us WORTH EMULATING both

here the astro explorer abuses the owner ofselling yagnas , KNOWING FULLY WELL

THAT THE OWNER IS A Bangladeshi muslim. he must be bad or confused the forum

HOME PAGE SAYS

clearly says

" The owner's site on Vedic Astrology, remedies, mantra, gemstone, yajna,

etc., is located at http://www.jyotish-remedies.com "

does it say anywhere he is offering it as a commercial service? it is

mudslinging by a vested group owner/moderator only the fact that they r faceless

and guts less to come out in the open name the people and the instances they

claim have happened

I will wait till today midnight IST and put sbm_sharma under moderation if he

appears before that well and good, but as said i still havea obligation to give

him 2 chances i said publicly and as long as it is in polite terms of course

i dont want anyone to use my differences with anyone as a excuse to spoil the

group

main reason i allowed this it is a WEEK END when not much mails come anyway,

MONDAY TO FRI is max activity day in any group, most ppl use office

infrastructure for these forums

i wil close this issue

and also CLEARLY STATE IN FUTURE IF ANY SUCH MAILS COME WITHOUT MY NOTICE I WILL

NOT ALLOW ANYONE A CHANCE TO REPLY WILL JUST DELETE THE OFFENDING MSG AND BE

DONE WITH IT

some may have it in their mail box so be it, itis no more part of group's

contents

PEACE AT ALL COSTS AND JYOTISH ALONE WILL PREVAIL

THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME I ALLOW SUCH EVENTS TO PAST

THANKS FOR AIRING UR VIEWS FRANKLY

Prashant

________________________________

Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405

Saturday, July 25, 2009 6:32:57 PM

Re: Re: astro explorer, sbm_sharma, vkkholi Msg 62563

Dear Mr. Prashant Kumar

I hv been reading the messages posted and the controversy being created. U as an

moderator are not showing the required administration skills as an moderator

seeing the kind of mails being posted. This site is an astrology site but you

are making this as an akhada or arena for people airing thier grieveances and

conflicts and you by allowing these kinds of mail to be posted it seems you are

in favour of these activities in an astrology forum.

I also have my own forum, which u are also aware of, Mr. Bhaskar also has his

own forum, if this would have happened in my forum, without seeing the

seniority of the member I should have first moderated and not allowed these

things. I would have written in privacy and tried internally get the issue

resolved.

By u supporting these kind of messages u r converting this vedic astrology forum

into an akhada. Act fast before any severe things happen. Some prominent

politicians name have been quoted in this forum in the controversial messages. I

am certain Mr. bhaskar will take up this matter to the concerned politician by

forwarding all the mails quoting the political figure name and the politician

can use his influence and authority to ask the authorities to BAN THIS

FORUM.

U r a CEO of this forum, u need to excercise ur administrative skills.

HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +91 9867214103

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Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

Saturday, 25 July, 2009 6:14:23 PM

Re: Re: astro explorer, sbm_sharma, vkkholi Msg 62563

Members,

pl see this is a request by Bhaskar ji so no motive on my part in allowing such

mails

,,, // I request Mr.Prashant GB to

forward me the email as it is (And not Copy paste) so that I can ask my

men to locate the person who has written this mail. //...

I will fwd the same to the group and let the members decide on Msg no 62563

only way the headers, IP address can be seen if in group inbox

as no forwarding to other ID's r there so did a cut and paste 1st time

now it is his choice to be allowed

I rest my case here.

Prashant

____________ _________ _________ __

Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ hathway.com>

Saturday, July 25, 2009 2:25:41 PM

Re: astro explorer, sbm_sharma, vkkholi

Dear Prashant ji,

Thank You for the step taken . I am personally never heard name of this

Sharma nor interacted with him ever as far as I remember. If one of my

moderators has fleeced him, as per his say,then he must have at least

contacted the Group owner (Myself) where he was fleeced, which he did

not, and now just coming and writing on some other group, does not make

any sense. In this manner just anybody can go to any group and write

anything about other Groups moderators, but wheres the evidence ?

He has done these blunders -

1) Defamation of the Jyotish Ganga Group Moderator without naming anyone

and no proof, and accused the moderator there of fleecing him.

2) Calling the Jyotish_Ganga Moderators as cowards.

3) Calling me as " A third rate servant " .

4) Intimidating me with use of a Political figures name whom he claims

as being his old friend and associate.

I will wait till tonight and if he does not offer a apology, then I will

take the matter to the Congress party, including Mr.Milind Deora himself

and his Father, Mr.Murli Deora (MP) for explanation as why am I being

intimidated by a friend of his son.

This matter will of course also be taken to the opposition party BJP.

I will not sit quiet I am warning the members involved, and also

Mr.Kohli who has send me a threatening mail, I request Mr.Prashant GB to

forward me the email as it is (And not Copy paste) so that I can ask my

men to locate the person who has written this mail.

regards/Bhaskar

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote:

>

> Dear Members named above

>

> pl make sure u post ur replies by tonight max by 10 pm IST if u don't

identify urself by name, location

>

> and also reply naming the members whom u have accused of fleecing

>

> I will put even old member like sbm_sharma under moderation

>

> at least any abuses true or fale will not pass withot my knowledge

>

> LET JYOTISH PREVAIL PERSONAL ISSUES FROM OTHER GROUPS PL SETTLE IT

LOCALLY IF NOT ALLOWD IN PERSONAL ID's which r public

>

> thanks for restoring the peace for the day

>

> prashant

>

July 25, 2009

Dear Prashant

It is a good step on your part by maintaining the forums identity as a jyotish

group and not a akhada. I hope members should also cooperate in this matter.

Please do not put ur personal score with Bhaskar in the forum. Wash the linen in

privacy not in the forum. By doing this others get motivated and use this forum

as a laundary to wash their linen. I hope Mr. Tanvir is reading what is

happening??

HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +91 9867214103

Send your mails to Chandra-AdityaAstroRemedies

Subscribe on this link

http://in.Chandra-AdityaAstroRemedies

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________________________________

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

Saturday, 25 July, 2009 7:16:06 PM

Re: Re: astro explorer, sbm_sharma, vkkholi Msg 62563- 2 chances

Dear Harr ji,

the fact of the MATTER IS I will not allow such things to happen in normal

course, If u r a member in other groups where Bhaskar ji is u will see how he

has attacked me, and the owner of this esteemed group by not allowing him a

chance to reply to msgs that involve him

I HAVE ALSO SAID I HAVE ALLOWED THE SAME SPIRIT OF DEMOCRACY THE FOUNDING OWNER

Sri TANVIR JI HAD WHILE FORMING THIS FORUM, in other forums the akhda members

have a one sided attack on the victims

here i clearly said I will give just 2 chances each and CLOSE THE THREAT for

good.

I HAVE CLEARLY SAID SBM_SHARMA is a old ID much before i came in in a forum that

gets 40-50 msgs a day it is impossible to see all mails, it is like putting all

uder a scanner is this democracy or dictatorship?

we will allow free spech BOT SIDES and close it

It pains me to see such happenings am sure th eowner too will feel the same way

I have suffered from the groups who have been singled me out along with otnwer

of the forum here and in VA too, whom i have time and again defended as much

better elevated and purpouseful souls than us WORTH EMULATING both

here the astro explorer abuses the owner ofselling yagnas , KNOWING FULLY WELL

THAT THE OWNER IS A Bangladeshi muslim. he must be bad or confused the forum

HOME PAGE SAYS

clearly says

" The owner's site on Vedic Astrology, remedies, mantra, gemstone, yajna, etc.,

is located at http://www.jyotish- remedies. com "

does it say anywhere he is offering it as a commercial service? it is

mudslinging by a vested group owner/moderator only the fact that they r faceless

and guts less to come out in the open name the people and the instances they

claim have happened

I will wait till today midnight IST and put sbm_sharma under moderation if he

appears before that well and good, but as said i still havea obligation to give

him 2 chances i said publicly and as long as it is in polite terms of course

i dont want anyone to use my differences with anyone as a excuse to spoil the

group

main reason i allowed this it is a WEEK END when not much mails come anyway,

MONDAY TO FRI is max activity day in any group, most ppl use office

infrastructure for these forums

i wil close this issue

and also CLEARLY STATE IN FUTURE IF ANY SUCH MAILS COME WITHOUT MY NOTICE I WILL

NOT ALLOW ANYONE A CHANCE TO REPLY WILL JUST DELETE THE OFFENDING MSG AND BE

DONE WITH IT

some may have it in their mail box so be it, itis no more part of group's

contents

PEACE AT ALL COSTS AND JYOTISH ALONE WILL PREVAIL

THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME I ALLOW SUCH EVENTS TO PAST

THANKS FOR AIRING UR VIEWS FRANKLY

Prashant

____________ _________ _________ __

Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405 >

Saturday, July 25, 2009 6:32:57 PM

Re: Re: astro explorer, sbm_sharma, vkkholi Msg 62563

Dear Mr. Prashant Kumar

I hv been reading the messages posted and the controversy being created. U as an

moderator are not showing the required administration skills as an moderator

seeing the kind of mails being posted. This site is an astrology site but you

are making this as an akhada or arena for people airing thier grieveances and

conflicts and you by allowing these kinds of mail to be posted it seems you are

in favour of these activities in an astrology forum.

I also have my own forum, which u are also aware of, Mr. Bhaskar also has his

own forum, if this would have happened in my forum, without seeing the seniority

of the member I should have first moderated and not allowed these things. I

would have written in privacy and tried internally get the issue resolved.

By u supporting these kind of messages u r converting this vedic astrology forum

into an akhada. Act fast before any severe things happen. Some prominent

politicians name have been quoted in this forum in the controversial messages. I

am certain Mr. bhaskar will take up this matter to the concerned politician by

forwarding all the mails quoting the political figure name and the politician

can use his influence and authority to ask the authorities to BAN THIS

FORUM.

U r a CEO of this forum, u need to excercise ur administrative skills.

HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +91 9867214103

Send your mails to Chandra-AdityaAstro Remedies@ . co.in

Subscribe on this link http://in.groups. / group/Chandra-

AdityaAstroRemed ies

For Professional Paid Consultancy mail request for charges to

haresh1405 /hareshgnathani@ or call +91 9867214103

____________ _________ _________ __

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

Saturday, 25 July, 2009 6:14:23 PM

Re: Re: astro explorer, sbm_sharma, vkkholi Msg 62563

Members,

pl see this is a request by Bhaskar ji so no motive on my part in allowing such

mails

,,, // I request Mr.Prashant GB to

forward me the email as it is (And not Copy paste) so that I can ask my

men to locate the person who has written this mail. //...

I will fwd the same to the group and let the members decide on Msg no 62563

only way the headers, IP address can be seen if in group inbox

as no forwarding to other ID's r there so did a cut and paste 1st time

now it is his choice to be allowed

I rest my case here.

Prashant

____________ _________ _________ __

Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ hathway.com>

Saturday, July 25, 2009 2:25:41 PM

Re: astro explorer, sbm_sharma, vkkholi

Dear Prashant ji,

Thank You for the step taken . I am personally never heard name of this

Sharma nor interacted with him ever as far as I remember. If one of my

moderators has fleeced him, as per his say,then he must have at least

contacted the Group owner (Myself) where he was fleeced, which he did

not, and now just coming and writing on some other group, does not make

any sense. In this manner just anybody can go to any group and write

anything about other Groups moderators, but wheres the evidence ?

He has done these blunders -

1) Defamation of the Jyotish Ganga Group Moderator without naming anyone

and no proof, and accused the moderator there of fleecing him.

2) Calling the Jyotish_Ganga Moderators as cowards.

3) Calling me as " A third rate servant " .

4) Intimidating me with use of a Political figures name whom he claims

as being his old friend and associate.

I will wait till tonight and if he does not offer a apology, then I will

take the matter to the Congress party, including Mr.Milind Deora himself

and his Father, Mr.Murli Deora (MP) for explanation as why am I being

intimidated by a friend of his son.

This matter will of course also be taken to the opposition party BJP.

I will not sit quiet I am warning the members involved, and also

Mr.Kohli who has send me a threatening mail, I request Mr.Prashant GB to

forward me the email as it is (And not Copy paste) so that I can ask my

men to locate the person who has written this mail.

regards/Bhaskar

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote:

>

> Dear Members named above

>

> pl make sure u post ur replies by tonight max by 10 pm IST if u don't

identify urself by name, location

>

> and also reply naming the members whom u have accused of fleecing

>

> I will put even old member like sbm_sharma under moderation

>

> at least any abuses true or fale will not pass withot my knowledge

>

> LET JYOTISH PREVAIL PERSONAL ISSUES FROM OTHER GROUPS PL SETTLE IT

LOCALLY IF NOT ALLOWD IN PERSONAL ID's which r public

>

> thanks for restoring the peace for the day

>

> prashant

>

July 25, 2009

Dear Harry ji

It is always been my motive to avoid such things and hope u see my latest mail

just sent

and i had to bring this not because Bhaskar's name figured here

the same person has accused the owner of the group Tanvir ji too hence had to

give it some space to see what comes out I had asked him proof a few times has

no courage to show them, comes with fake ID's or nameless mails a shame i must

say

I have sent him copies and also that i will give them 2 chances each to defend

their line so that he too can take appropriate action, by supressing it we can't

stop them from mudslinging us in other groups as has been happening

I have taken the needed steps we learn by fire daily

Prashant

________________________________

Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405

Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:23:37 PM

Re: Re: astro explorer, sbm_sharma, vkkholi Msg 62563- 2 chances

Dear Prashant

It is a good step on your part by maintaining the forums identity as a jyotish

group and not a akhada. I hope members should also cooperate in this matter.

Please do not put ur personal score with Bhaskar in the forum. Wash the linen in

privacy not in the forum. By doing this others get motivated and use this forum

as a laundary to wash their linen. I hope Mr. Tanvir is reading what is

happening??

HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +91 9867214103

Send your mails to Chandra-AdityaAstro Remedies@ . co.in

Subscribe on this link http://in.groups. / group/Chandra-

AdityaAstroRemed ies

For Professional Paid Consultancy mail request for charges to

haresh1405 /hareshgnathani@ or call +91 9867214103

____________ _________ _________ __

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

Saturday, 25 July, 2009 7:16:06 PM

Re: Re: astro explorer, sbm_sharma, vkkholi Msg 62563- 2 chances

Dear Harr ji,

the fact of the MATTER IS I will not allow such things to happen in normal

course, If u r a member in other groups where Bhaskar ji is u will see how he

has attacked me, and the owner of this esteemed group by not allowing him a

chance to reply to msgs that involve him

I HAVE ALSO SAID I HAVE ALLOWED THE SAME SPIRIT OF DEMOCRACY THE FOUNDING OWNER

Sri TANVIR JI HAD WHILE FORMING THIS FORUM, in other forums the akhda members

have a one sided attack on the victims

here i clearly said I will give just 2 chances each and CLOSE THE THREAT for

good.

I HAVE CLEARLY SAID SBM_SHARMA is a old ID much before i came in in a forum that

gets 40-50 msgs a day it is impossible to see all mails, it is like putting all

uder a scanner is this democracy or dictatorship?

we will allow free spech BOT SIDES and close it

It pains me to see such happenings am sure th eowner too will feel the same way

I have suffered from the groups who have been singled me out along with otnwer

of the forum here and in VA too, whom i have time and again defended as much

better elevated and purpouseful souls than us WORTH EMULATING both

here the astro explorer abuses the owner ofselling yagnas , KNOWING FULLY WELL

THAT THE OWNER IS A Bangladeshi muslim. he must be bad or confused the forum

HOME PAGE SAYS

clearly says

" The owner's site on Vedic Astrology, remedies, mantra, gemstone, yajna, etc.,

is located at http://www.jyotish- remedies. com "

does it say anywhere he is offering it as a commercial service? it is

mudslinging by a vested group owner/moderator only the fact that they r faceless

and guts less to come out in the open name the people and the instances they

claim have happened

I will wait till today midnight IST and put sbm_sharma under moderation if he

appears before that well and good, but as said i still havea obligation to give

him 2 chances i said publicly and as long as it is in polite terms of course

i dont want anyone to use my differences with anyone as a excuse to spoil the

group

main reason i allowed this it is a WEEK END when not much mails come anyway,

MONDAY TO FRI is max activity day in any group, most ppl use office

infrastructure for these forums

i wil close this issue

and also CLEARLY STATE IN FUTURE IF ANY SUCH MAILS COME WITHOUT MY NOTICE I WILL

NOT ALLOW ANYONE A CHANCE TO REPLY WILL JUST DELETE THE OFFENDING MSG AND BE

DONE WITH IT

some may have it in their mail box so be it, itis no more part of group's

contents

PEACE AT ALL COSTS AND JYOTISH ALONE WILL PREVAIL

THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME I ALLOW SUCH EVENTS TO PAST

THANKS FOR AIRING UR VIEWS FRANKLY

Prashant

____________ _________ _________ __

Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405>