To: dhirendra Misra on Brihad Jataka & Legitimacy of birth

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Dear Dhirendra Nath Misra & others,

 

You have raised an important question on 6th verse of chapter 5 of Brihad

Jataka.

 

Brihat jataka written by Varaha Mihira is very deep and with multiple meanings

or implications as well as usage as against other works. This is very evident

from very few verses in the text through which the great scholar & astrologer

has covered the subject fully. He himself has mentioned this in his first

chapter

 

" bhuuyobhiH paDubudhibhiH paDudhiyaam horaaphalaGYaptaye

shabdanyaasasamanviteShu bahushashaastreShu dR^IiSTeSwapi.

horaatandramahaarNavaprataraNe bhagnodyamaanaamaham

swalpam vR^ittavichitramartabahuLam shaastrapLavam praarabhe.. "

 

" I am starting this book, described as a wooden log to cross the ocean for the

most intelligent amongst the intelligent and inspite of many works which are

available and rich in literature, logic etc, this work though small is full of

cross and multiple meaning (Vrittam means a circle – one point leading to

another and back or once can say with core logic). "

 

You can see that Mihiracharya is hinting that inspite of the fact that you

(student of astrology) are very intelligent (Only a highly intelligent person

can take up study of astrology) and has learned all the available great

textbooks on the subject, this book will save you like a log of wood and keep

you floating in this vast ocean and help to reach the other shore.

 

So unlike other works, when you take up study of varaha mihira, always keep in

in mind that there could be hidden meanings or logic behind these verses. The

meaning can never be complete without understanding those hidden implications or

factors. Most of the books available, particularly in English & Hindi only have

provided the literal & external meaning of these verses. Hence, most think that

Varaha mihira has not covered the subject in full.

 

However without learning Sanskrit as a language one cannot understand the depth

and logic of these verses.

 

I have written the above only to impress on you the foolishness of just looking

into the literal meaning or offhand translation of these verses.

 

Now for the verse you have mentioned. I shall try to keep it as simple as

possible, though the explanation & arguments pertaining to logic shall run in

pages.

 

" na lagnamindunJa guruurnniriikshate

na vaa shashaa~Ngo raviNaa samaagataH

sapaapakorkkeNa yuto.athavaa shashii

pareNa jaataM pravadandi nischayaat.. "

 

This verse actually speaks of three conditions by which one can judge the

credibility of the birth. A word of caution: the first two conditions though

indicate that the child's father could be another person, it does NOT imply that

the birth is illegitimate. However, the third verse may point to this direction

or that the child is " Kritrima " – artificial.

 

Keeping this mind, the conditions are

1) Jupiter does not aspect Lagna or Chandra. The " lagnaminduMcha " is a single

word. Hence it also implies that if moon is in lagna but not aspected by

Jupiter.

2) Jupiter does not aspect Moon who is along with Sun.

3) Jupiter does not aspect moon who is with sun & another malefic.

 

1) This as you can see in fact have two conditions.

a)Lagna & Chandra are different

b)Moon is in Lagna

Lagna represents the child and Moon represents the mother. So if Jupiter the

guru, the sudha, does not aspect any of them the birth is not sudha. Further the

word " jaataM " is prathama dwivachana indicating multiple mother. That is : the

child's biological mother could be someone else.

 

In the second condition Mother is in the lagna. Hence child is born of the same

mother but the biological father could be different. Pls note that it is not

implied that the child is illegal. No malefic planet is mentioned here. The

natural question you would ask is why father is mentioned thus: Moon as per

scriptures, represent Lord Chandra who appeared in the form of a cock to move

away Brihaspathy, husband of Tara to court her. Mercury was their illegitimate

child. So moon's position in Kendra hints at the character of " womanizing " or

" henpecked " and if Jupiter does not aspect (is moved away) the child thus born

will be illegitimate. So Moon here also represents father as Lord Chandra/Soma.

 

2) Moon is combined with Sun but not aspected by Jupiter.

Here Sun definitely represents father & moon represents mother but lagna (Child)

is different. So Jupiter as putra karaka does not aspect mother & father, the

child's parenthood could be different. Sun though a natural malefic is of lesser

order. He is the king with his queen, the Moon. Sun is also considered to be of

Satwic Guna while Mars is Rajasic & Saturn –Tamasic guna.

3) Moon is with Sun and also another malefic planet and is Not aspected by Guru.

 

The involvement of another another malefic – either of the two Mars or Saturn

involvement of another person in the process of childhood. Mars involvement as

rajasic planet, head of the Military of the King (Sun) indicates the child was

adopted or born in order to ensure the continuence of the royalty since moon

looses her power to bear a child (looses paksha bala) and thus very weak to bear

a child. Saturn being of Tamasic guna indicates the child is either

artificially(There are valid arguments to this indication) born or is

illegitimate.

 

The word used " nireekshite " is very special in this context, instead of the word

" Drishti " which implicates the role of an inspector or supervisor or protector.

So also is the word " Guru " which means the enemy of ignorance. So Guru's aspect

means " looks after as a supervisor and remover of ignorance and foolishness or

protects "

 

When we speak of " Aspect " or " Drishti " , we have to understand that this verse

further expands and includes other verses where by the " drishti " or " yuti " also

includes 1/4th , 1/2 & 3/4 aspect as well as the 5th, 7th & 9th aspect of

Jupiter. Simply because it is NOT specified that " Poorna Drishti " " VeeryeNa " is

used.

 

Further, the grammatically, the words used are dwiteeya & triteeya and hence

lagna & moon's position if not in Jupiter's signs (Dhanu & Meena) is also

implied. That is: if lagna or Moon is not associated with Jupiter's signs and

the word " SamagataH " implies yoga or association which includes Drekana ,

Navamsa , Dwathasamsa etc. of Jupiter.

 

The word " nischayat " meaning " as per decided " which again indicates

pre-planning. Hence the child born is as per decision taken by two or more

people involved.

 

Finaly, if you scrutinize the above you will see that the verse is more useful

in Prasna than in Jataka, though it could be used. This verse is best used when

some one asks about the legitimacy of the child and prasna is conducted to

answer that question and the above indications points to the facts of the birth.

 

Astrology branches to Jataka, prashna, muhurtha, Gola, nimitha & Ganitha.. The

Verses & explanations are mixed up in the classical works. Some of the

conditions will good for jataka and yet some will be good for prashna, though

almost all could be used every where.

 

In short, one has to understand where and how a given condition should be used.

 

A full understanding of the logics and further insights will run in pages.

 

Hope this helps you.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

 

 

 

 

 

, Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

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> Respected Sir,Good Evening,I have gone through the text written by great sage

Varahmihir where he has written that if baby is born of his/her first hand

mother then in the horoscope of that baby certainly the Jupiter will aspect

either Ascendant or Moon Lagna of that baby and if it is not found in the

horoscope it means there is some thing wrong behind the birth of the baby.In

other words before the birth of this baby the present mother had some legal or

illegal relation with some one else.I have found this principle correct in so

many cases but some times I did not find that Jupiter is aspecting Ascendant or

Moon Lagna.In this circumstances I get confused as to whether the Great Sage

Varahmihir is wrong on the issue or the mother of the baby is secon hand lady

and this question can not be put to any woman ,Although it has nothing to do

with prediction about the any native but still there is unsolved question .In

all the horoscope of my family I found

> that Jupiter is aspecting Ascendant or Moon sign.In my opinion a research

must be made on this topic.If I have missunderstood the meaning of the SLOKA

written by great sage Varahmihir ,please tell me in detail about this thing.For

example I am giving my own birth data-DOB APRIL 20,1959,POB is BASTI(u.p),TOB is

8:15AM.Longitude 82:44 East,Latitude 26:48North and Jupiter is laced in 7th

house and aspectin Ascendant.Take Exaple of my younger Son TOB is April

6,1998,TOB 10:12AM,POB Haldwani (Nainital) Longitude 79:31East,Latitude 29:13

North and Jupiter is placed in 9th house and aspecting Ascendant. ........ and

so on  ....I hope the revealing of this text will not hurt any one this text is

being sent and put before foru for arguments and I hope that great astrologers

of the world will certainly make reply to me.Chapter 5 sloka 6 of Brihad Jatak

written by Sage Varahmihir Ji reminded here for your opinion and reading and

research work. With regards-

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