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Om namah shivaya

 

I have these queries to all respected astrologers.Please shed light on it.

 

1)Is the present state of a person is the result of his present karma or his

present planetary positions or his previous janma deeds or is it a interplay

among the above said three things.

 

 

why I am asking this is,in one of lalitha sahsaranamam or any other namas

 

lailitha saharanamam--it is there " ichcha shakti gyana shakthi ktiya shakthi

swaroopnini " ---it clearly clarifies that godess lalitha devi is responsible for

these three kriyas.

 

If you take GEETHA or sayings of SWAMY VIVEKANANDA...in geetha it says

we have right to work but not to expect the result...Swamy says that

you are the master of your fate...all power is with in you..youcan do anything

and everything.(if we take west most of theme attribute their success to

hardwork and presenr karma)

 

Please let me know how can we correlate all the above said things in order to

analyze a persons present state.

 

For example say a person " xyz " has met with accident or he lost his job or he

murdered sombody.How can we analyze these situations,inboth the case say it is

his fault or negligence.Than how can we come to a conclusion that his

fault/negligence is pointed to his current planetary positions or to his

previous karma deeds or to his own fault.

 

Thanks,

Nageshwar.

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Dear friend,

 

 

Planetary position in birth chart

 

show all your accumulated or stored karma.

 

Some of them may be driddha karma or of highly fixed/unalterable/unchangeable in

nature

 

 

while others may be changeable/alterable

 

with native's present good/bad karma.

 

 

The change based on present karma is more powerful and effective

 

when it begins from within one's one own willingness and interest.

 

 

Regards,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

(Consultancy out of group is not free)

 

 

, " dnageshwar " <dnageshwar

wrote:

>

> Om namah shivaya

>

> I have these queries to all respected astrologers.Please shed light on it.

>

> 1)Is the present state of a person is the result of his present karma or his

present planetary positions or his previous janma deeds or is it a interplay

among the above said three things.

>

>

> why I am asking this is,in one of lalitha sahsaranamam or any other namas

>

> lailitha saharanamam--it is there " ichcha shakti gyana shakthi ktiya shakthi

swaroopnini " ---it clearly clarifies that godess lalitha devi is responsible for

these three kriyas.

>

> If you take GEETHA or sayings of SWAMY VIVEKANANDA...in geetha it says

> we have right to work but not to expect the result...Swamy says that

> you are the master of your fate...all power is with in you..youcan do anything

and everything.(if we take west most of theme attribute their success to

hardwork and presenr karma)

>

> Please let me know how can we correlate all the above said things in order to

analyze a persons present state.

>

> For example say a person " xyz " has met with accident or he lost his job or he

murdered sombody.How can we analyze these situations,inboth the case say it is

his fault or negligence.Than how can we come to a conclusion that his

fault/negligence is pointed to his current planetary positions or to his

previous karma deeds or to his own fault.

>

> Thanks,

> Nageshwar.

>

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Mr Nageswara Rao,

Very rhetorical question.Though the question is not very much Astrological,since

you wanted to know the role of Karma,first let us hypothetically consider,every

person is a karan janma todo the unfinished things

2.to pay the dues of the past by way of present action and finally to know the

ultimate that v r responsible for ourselves and there is need to safeguard some

thing for the future.

 

All Swami Ji have always emphasised that what you do in the present as a human

being do in such that it paves way for good to yourself,to your people around

and serve the cause of humanity.That is Manava Sewa which is Madhava Sewa.In the

process of we do not harm others.

This is one side of the story and the other side,you are bound to discharge your

role as a human being .In saying so you have to take care of all actions to

maintain yourself and the people who are dependent on you

..If this you do as Grihasthi(as a married man) you have a pre qualification

while as Brahmachary,nearly 10 years of learning time to know what is good and

what is bad.This period is a very rigorous period. to have a course of life

involving worship of Guru,Parents and daivam as prescribed in our Sastras and

Vedas.

Knowledge of these sastras gives confidence to lead life as a Grihastji and

promote progeny to make them responsible to the society.

In the process of this another 20 years life v encounter several hardship and

face them with the help of Almighty's blessings.Possibly we have made a path to

ourselves to lead life which might be a pleasent one or one that is of hardships

and mounting difficulties.More and more concerns of self,problems to jeeva by

way of ill health and no one symapathises with us are all karmas of the past

 for which sufferings we undergo.

If the past out of our actions has positive side,we attain through our will all

our wishes.So ther should be continuity of doing by way of actions by keeping

faith in God and not expecting positive results.But our simplicity,honesty and

sincerity always lead us to to attain  our fulfilmnet of goals.This is a reward

which the supernatural bestows on us and we like it and boost our energies.More

or less v see a pattern in our life cycle emnating out of past ,experience

present and look to future with high morale and ocnfidnce

..Any worry,disappaointment is not only our short work but attributable to the

past for which v r denied of opportunities,waste of our time sffer alone by

brooding over our past.

Concept of inter play is not there as first we have to our dharma(purpose of

birth known through lagna),comes the role of artha,giving orientation to life by

our dahrma,then comes kama desire for attainment of goals and finally moksh is

one'sability to come out of interplays and attraction to find essence of life

and prepare for future.These are kriyas as mentioned as iccha shakti,gnana

shakti and kriya sakthi which come through Goddess.As human being endowed with

the ability think we have our free will to do any thing but this not really

absolute as you need to know what is good and bad.murder is certainly a a

crime,accident is  to suffer due to past karma by way of agony.loosing job is to

face financila problems and express our inability coming out of actions.The

responsibili for these sufferings lies entirely on us.Astrology empahsises the

need for action and wishes human being to be great triers in evry aspect of

life.has indication of past and how

in present the sufferings emrge and what he needs to do to over come these

hardships.

Lagna.pancham and navam r houses to do our dharma and indicate purpose of the

birth,26and 10 houses of ardha,37and 11 are of kama and finally 4.8,and 12 are

house of moksha that shows way for the furure.Continuity exists and what we do

in the present has past undoubtedly.

  

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

 

--- On Wed, 8/26/09, dnageshwar <dnageshwar wrote:

 

 

dnageshwar <dnageshwar

Regarding fate/karma

 

Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 4:18 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Om namah shivaya

 

I have these queries to all respected astrologers. Please shed light on it.

 

1)Is the present state of a person is the result of his present karma or his

present planetary positions or his previous janma deeds or is it a interplay

among the above said three things.

 

why I am asking this is,in one of lalitha sahsaranamam or any other namas

 

lailitha saharanamam- -it is there " ichcha shakti gyana shakthi ktiya shakthi

swaroopnini " ---it clearly clarifies that godess lalitha devi is responsible for

these three kriyas.

 

If you take GEETHA or sayings of SWAMY VIVEKANANDA. ..in geetha it says

we have right to work but not to expect the result...Swamy says that

you are the master of your fate...all power is with in you..youcan do anything

and everything.( if we take west most of theme attribute their success to

hardwork and presenr karma)

 

Please let me know how can we correlate all the above said things in order to

analyze a persons present state.

 

For example say a person " xyz " has met with accident or he lost his job or he

murdered sombody.How can we analyze these situations,inboth the case say it is

his fault or negligence.Than how can we come to a conclusion that his

fault/negligence is pointed to his current planetary positions or to his

previous karma deeds or to his own fault.

 

Thanks,

Nageshwar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear all and respected Gurujis

 

I was reading the  Deivathin kural of Kanchi Paramacharya.

 

He explains that the karma both Good and Bad will give results. If we do more of

either, then the person gets the result by spending in heaven/hell to reduce the

effect and to enjoy/suffer the balance take a birth.

 

Even Good Karmas are one way are bad as it gives a man a life of enjoyment in

the next birth and the wealth and comfort of that life makes a man to do

knowingly or unknowingly good or bad to continue the cycle of birth.

 

The best way for any one is to do only good things without even thinking that he

is doing a great thing. He should surrender that to the lord and he will give

the benefit. " ( My reading is that is how we should understand

"  Karmanyevadigarasthe. ma baleshu kadachana " .)

 

Hence do only good karma and surrender it to God. That is the only way to escape

this cycle.

 

Regards

 

Sankar

 

--- On Wed, 8/26/09, astrologer_mrutyunjay <astrologer_mrutyunjay

wrote:

 

 

astrologer_mrutyunjay <astrologer_mrutyunjay

Re: Regarding fate/karma

 

Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 4:09 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear friend,

 

Planetary position in birth chart

 

show all your accumulated or stored karma.

 

Some of them may be driddha karma or of highly fixed/unalterable/ unchangeable

in nature

 

while others may be changeable/alterabl e

 

with native's present good/bad karma.

 

The change based on present karma is more powerful and effective

 

when it begins from within one's one own willingness and interest.

 

Regards,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

(Consultancy out of group is not free)

 

, " dnageshwar@ ... " <dnageshwar@ ....>

wrote:

>

> Om namah shivaya

>

> I have these queries to all respected astrologers. Please shed light on it.

>

> 1)Is the present state of a person is the result of his present karma or his

present planetary positions or his previous janma deeds or is it a interplay

among the above said three things.

>

>

> why I am asking this is,in one of lalitha sahsaranamam or any other namas

>

> lailitha saharanamam- -it is there " ichcha shakti gyana shakthi ktiya shakthi

swaroopnini " ---it clearly clarifies that godess lalitha devi is responsible for

these three kriyas.

>

> If you take GEETHA or sayings of SWAMY VIVEKANANDA. ..in geetha it says

> we have right to work but not to expect the result...Swamy says that

> you are the master of your fate...all power is with in you..youcan do anything

and everything.( if we take west most of theme attribute their success to

hardwork and presenr karma)

>

> Please let me know how can we correlate all the above said things in order to

analyze a persons present state.

>

> For example say a person " xyz " has met with accident or he lost his job or he

murdered sombody.How can we analyze these situations,inboth the case say it is

his fault or negligence.Than how can we come to a conclusion that his

fault/negligence is pointed to his current planetary positions or to his

previous karma deeds or to his own fault.

>

> Thanks,

> Nageshwar.

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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