Guest guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Hi all, i want to know abt new born baby mundan. Why it is necessary? When one should do it. What is the precautions, one must take. Pls suggest. _______________ One stop at MSN India to catch up with what’s hot in the world around you today http://in.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Dear Enup.Verma & members, This is question to be put to religious pundits, particularly belonging to ones own sect & caste. However, since you have asked its relevance and in an astrology forum, I shall try to explain. Mundan or Chowlam as it is called, is followed differently by people of various regions and sects / caste etc. hence there will be a bit of confusion as to what or how & when it should be done. That is the reason why I suggested asking the religious pandits. In " Prayoga Parijata " it is said, " jaataadhikaarajjanmaaditriteeye abde tu chaoulakam " accordingly choula/mundan should be done in the 3rd year. it further states, " aadhye abdhe kurvate kechit panchame abdhe dviteeyake " some do in the first year and some in the fifth and some in the 2nd year. Brihaspati states: " triteeye abdhe shishorgarbhaajjanmato vaa visheShataH " meaning third year is most auspicious. Hence we can conclude that chaoula should be done in the 3rd year or according to kula achar. " upaneetya sahaiveti vikalpyaaH kuladharmataH " . Now as we know most the sages have dictated that Chaoula should be done in the 3rd year. Why?. Hairor JaTTA on the head of new born is considered " KalmaSha " or sin aquired from the past life. This JaTTA, hence is the link between the past life and present and should be severed before the child advances to the higher level - education etc Astrologicaly, According to Naisargika dasa, the first year after the birth is attributed to Moon and the next 2 years to mars. then starts the period of Mercury - Vidhya karaka - to start education of the child. This should be reason why sages dictated that the Hair - link to the previous life - sins to be removed before the phase of education - mercury starts - journey towards the real and present life. " ekaM dwe nava viMshatirdhritikritii paj~naashadeShaaM kramaal chandraarendujashukrajiivadinakrddaivaakariiNaaM samaaH swe swe puShTphalaanisarggasamaye paktirddshaayaaH kramaadandyelagnadashaa shubheti yavanaa necchandi kechittathaa.. " Now if anyone should like to ask why hair is considered " Kalmasha " , I don't have an immediate answer. Such persons are advised to search in smrities etc. I have only tried to give an answer as logical as possible. If there are any pundits in the group who are knowledgeable, I request them to shed some light on this. Perhaps Pundit Arjun ji or Shree Srivastava ji can chipin. I hope this satifies you. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , Enup Verma <enup.verma wrote: > > Hi all, i want to know abt new born baby mundan. Why it is necessary? When one should do it. What is the precautions, one must take. Pls suggest. > > _______________ > One stop at MSN India to catch up with what's hot in the world around you today > http://in.msn.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Dear Suresh ji even physically hair and nails r supposed to be dead tissues of the body that tkae such a shape, nature. some shrot hari some long some ralry greying some thinning v soon, nails some have unevn nails in stripes, some smooth etc. so the health of the body is also indicated there also sani's strenght also denotes tha amount of hair it is said a few children r born with a lot of hair some sparse hair as well from what u said already the past karma balance possibly can be seen here as well, role of sani in the balance dues there. also the Balarishta prone ones esp withhead injuries do get a natural cover by sani a possible cushion as well., probably the skull needs such protection till the 3rd yr may be some doctors ifpresent can also coment on this part. astrologically of shastra based info urs is good, so can;t offer much. mine is more a rationalist dimension. btw the last 4 times in 3 yrs i have only tonsured my hair in Tirumala once a yr this yr had finished in apr else sept 26th of the past 3 yrs have done this this yr also may be going there may defer it till next session prashant ________________________________ sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag Thursday, September 3, 2009 6:21:43 PM Re: What is the significance of mundan in hinduism. Dear Enup.Verma & members, This is question to be put to religious pundits, particularly belonging to ones own sect & caste. However, since you have asked its relevance and in an astrology forum, I shall try to explain. Mundan or Chowlam as it is called, is followed differently by people of various regions and sects / caste etc. hence there will be a bit of confusion as to what or how & when it should be done. That is the reason why I suggested asking the religious pandits. In " Prayoga Parijata " it is said, " jaataadhikaarajjan maaditriteeye abde tu chaoulakam " accordingly choula/mundan should be done in the 3rd year. it further states, " aadhye abdhe kurvate kechit panchame abdhe dviteeyake " some do in the first year and some in the fifth and some in the 2nd year. Brihaspati states: " triteeye abdhe shishorgarbhaajjanm ato vaa visheShataH " meaning third year is most auspicious. Hence we can conclude that chaoula should be done in the 3rd year or according to kula achar. " upaneetya sahaiveti vikalpyaaH kuladharmataH " . Now as we know most the sages have dictated that Chaoula should be done in the 3rd year. Why?. Hairor JaTTA on the head of new born is considered " KalmaSha " or sin aquired from the past life. This JaTTA, hence is the link between the past life and present and should be severed before the child advances to the higher level - education etc Astrologicaly, According to Naisargika dasa, the first year after the birth is attributed to Moon and the next 2 years to mars. then starts the period of Mercury - Vidhya karaka - to start education of the child. This should be reason why sages dictated that the Hair - link to the previous life - sins to be removed before the phase of education - mercury starts - journey towards the real and present life. " ekaM dwe nava viMshatirdhritikrit ii paj~naashadeShaaM kramaal chandraarendujashuk rajiivadinakrdda ivaakariiNaaM samaaH swe swe puShTphalaanisargga samaye paktirddshaayaaH kramaadandyelagnada shaa shubheti yavanaa necchandi kechittathaa. . " Now if anyone should like to ask why hair is considered " Kalmasha " , I don't have an immediate answer. Such persons are advised to search in smrities etc. I have only tried to give an answer as logical as possible. If there are any pundits in the group who are knowledgeable, I request them to shed some light on this. Perhaps Pundit Arjun ji or Shree Srivastava ji can chipin. I hope this satifies you. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , Enup Verma <enup.verma@ ...> wrote: > > Hi all, i want to know abt new born baby mundan. Why it is necessary? When one should do it. What is the precautions, one must take. Pls suggest. > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > One stop at MSN India to catch up with what's hot in the world around you today > http://in.msn. com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Dear Prashan ji, what you said about the health aspects might also count. //btw the last 4 times in 3 yrs i have only tonsured my hair in Tirumala once a yr this yr had finished in apr else sept 26th of the past 3 yrs have done this this yr also may be going there may defer it till next session// This is irrelevant in the present context as the question is regarding the Mundan or choula achara (first hair cutting) only. the subsequent hair removal can be done according to ones own achara or convenience though there are certain stipulation that needs to be followed, which has been reduced to nill due to many reasons. As pointed by about your present practice, some do it at " Palani " in Tamil Nadu. I am not aware of any such customes at temples of North India. There could be. Recently even christians have started it in Kerala, to mimick the hindu rituals - tring hard to show that there is no difference between hindus and them - a pity. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Dear Suresh ji > > even physically hair and nails r supposed to be dead tissues of the body that tkae such a shape, nature. > > some shrot hari some long some ralry greying some thinning v soon, nails some have unevn nails in stripes, some smooth etc. so the health of the body is also indicated there also sani's strenght also denotes tha amount of hair it is said a few children r born with a lot of hair some sparse hair as well > > from what u said already the past karma balance possibly can be seen here as well, role of sani in the balance dues there. > > also the Balarishta prone ones esp withhead injuries do get a natural cover by sani a possible cushion as well., probably the skull needs such protection till the 3rd yr may be some doctors ifpresent can also coment on this part. > > astrologically of shastra based info urs is good, so can;t offer much. mine is more a rationalist dimension. > > btw the last 4 times in 3 yrs i have only tonsured my hair in Tirumala once a yr this yr had finished in apr else sept 26th of the past 3 yrs have done this this yr also may be going there may defer it till next session > > prashant > > > > > > ________________________________ > sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag > > Thursday, September 3, 2009 6:21:43 PM > Re: What is the significance of mundan in hinduism. > > > Dear Enup.Verma & members, > > This is question to be put to religious pundits, particularly belonging to ones own sect & caste. > > However, since you have asked its relevance and in an astrology forum, I shall try to explain. > > Mundan or Chowlam as it is called, is followed differently by people of various regions and sects / caste etc. hence there will be a bit of confusion as to what or how & when it should be done. That is the reason why I suggested asking the religious pandits. > > In " Prayoga Parijata " it is said, > " jaataadhikaarajjan maaditriteeye abde tu chaoulakam " > accordingly choula/mundan should be done in the 3rd year. > it further states, > " aadhye abdhe kurvate kechit panchame abdhe dviteeyake " > > some do in the first year and some in the fifth and some in the 2nd year. > > Brihaspati states: " triteeye abdhe shishorgarbhaajjanm ato vaa visheShataH " > > meaning third year is most auspicious. > > Hence we can conclude that chaoula should be done in the 3rd year or according to kula achar. " upaneetya sahaiveti vikalpyaaH kuladharmataH " . > > Now as we know most the sages have dictated that Chaoula should be done in the 3rd year. Why?. > > Hairor JaTTA on the head of new born is considered " KalmaSha " or sin aquired from the past life. This JaTTA, hence is the link between the past life and present and should be severed before the child advances to the higher level - education etc > > Astrologicaly, > > According to Naisargika dasa, the first year after the birth is attributed to Moon and the next 2 years to mars. then starts the period of Mercury - Vidhya karaka - to start education of the child. This should be reason why sages dictated that the Hair - link to the previous life - sins to be removed before the phase of education - mercury starts - journey towards the real and present life. > > " ekaM dwe nava viMshatirdhritikrit ii paj~naashadeShaaM kramaal > chandraarendujashuk rajiivadinakrdda ivaakariiNaaM samaaH > swe swe puShTphalaanisargga samaye paktirddshaayaaH > kramaadandyelagnada shaa shubheti yavanaa necchandi kechittathaa. . " > > Now if anyone should like to ask why hair is considered " Kalmasha " , I don't have an immediate answer. Such persons are advised to search in smrities etc. I have only tried to give an answer as logical as possible. If there are any pundits in the group who are knowledgeable, I request them to shed some light on this. Perhaps Pundit Arjun ji or Shree Srivastava ji can chipin. > > > I hope this satifies you. > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > , Enup Verma <enup.verma@ ...> wrote: > > > > Hi all, i want to know abt new born baby mundan. Why it is necessary? When one should do it. What is the precautions, one must take. Pls suggest. > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > One stop at MSN India to catch up with what's hot in the world around you today > > http://in.msn. com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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