Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Dear Sunil Bhai, Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. Gopal Raju Scientist and Occultist Mob. : *********** see YELLOW PAGES in the link below /database , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 wrote: > > Respected Gurujan, > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > Regards > Sunil > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Dear friends, Testing astrology and gemstone is good if you can financially afford it. But I do not think it is wise to afford at the cost of one's loss of health/ wealth. Wearing Emerlad for the native whose birth details given below may lead to serious health problem/ accident/ litigations etc. Astrological reasons : (1) mercury is 11th lord from Arudha Lagna resperesting sudden happenings (2)in the constellation of moon the planet ruling over 12th house from arudha lagna. (3)moon placed in 12th house from Lagna (4) mercury combust in 8th house in rasi being the 12th lord (5)mercury vargottma and in marana karaka sthana in the navamsa chart (relationships/partnerships/ communications) (6)Sun and mercury are closely conjunct in the 8th house. Mercury being friend of Sun is giving the result of Sun. Note the navamsa chart. Sun owns the 4th navamsa or khara navamsa counted from taurus navamsa occupied by mercury How does wearing of Emerlad is going to free it from sun's influence ? The more you strengthen Mercury....the more negatively and successfully it would act for Sun ! It would be better if the learned members and astrologer go with a few lines of basic analysis while suggesting or accepting gemstones for betterment of future. Regards, Mrutyunjay Tripathy Natal Chart May 27, 1969 Time: 16:05:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " New Delhi, India Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa Lagna 3 Li 32' 00.92 " Chit 4 Li Sc Sun - PK 12 Ta 32' 54.51 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar Moon - MK 17 Vi 19' 35.25 " Hast 3 Vi Ge Mars ® - BK 18 Sc 01' 28.23 " Jye 1 Sc Sg Mercury ® - PiK 15 Ta 29' 34.04 " Rohi 2 Ta Ta Jupiter - DK 2 Vi 42' 47.15 " UPha 2 Vi Cp Venus - AK 28 Pi 52' 27.09 " Reva 4 Pi Pi Saturn - GK 9 Ar 54' 34.47 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge Rahu - AmK 3 Pi 25' 45.69 " UBha 1 Pi Le Ketu 3 Vi 25' 45.69 " UPha 3 Vi Aq Maandi 24 Le 54' 27.20 " PPha 4 Le Sc Gulika 13 Le 41' 22.41 " PPha 1 Le Le Bhava Lagna 21 Li 03' 21.74 " Visa 1 Li Ar Hora Lagna 29 Pi 59' 13.84 " Reva 4 Pi Pi , " gopalraju12 " <gopalraju12 wrote: > > Dear Sunil Bhai, > Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. > Gopal Raju > Scientist and Occultist > Mob. : *********** > > see YELLOW PAGES in the link below > /database > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > > Regards > > Sunil > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Dear Sunil, I fully agree with Shree Mrinthyujay Tripati ji about Emerald may not be beneficial to you, but for a different reason, which is natural since both of us use different analytical methods. Mercury is 12th lord & 9th lord in the 8th from lagna and chandra lagna lord and 10th lord in the 9th from chandra lagna. So Mercury is mostly beneficial except for the 12th house lordship which is also important. However the point is it is vargottama & retrograde, hence already very powerfull. It being combust is not considered very important as per classics since Mercury never leaves the company of Sun and is mostly combust - which also confer Nipuna Yoga. However, the chart has other afflictions Such as Venus + Rahu in the 6th & Jupiter + Moon +Ketu in the 12th. Jupiter is having Neecha Navamsa also. So a planet which is along with Moon giving Kesari Yoga is weak and also afflicted with Ketu. Further Mars, 2nd house lord is also retrograde that too in its own house. I wonder how wearing a stone shall help rectify the effects of retrograde planet. Only a few case with prooven history can conform the validity of such logics. Till then it would be better if the native resorts to religious remedies, particularly since Jupiter & venus are in Sama Sapthama with venus exalted & varothama. Mahala Laxmi should be propitiated to financial stabilty. Rahu / Ketu pooja should also be done along with poojas to Lord Mahadev. As Shree Mrithyunja Tripati Ji as implied, it is upto to you to experiment with costly stones or spend a few minutes of your time to propetiate the deities. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , " astrologer_mrutyunjay " <astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote: > > Dear friends, > > Testing astrology and gemstone is good > > if you can financially afford it. > > > But I do not think it is wise to afford > > at the cost of one's > > loss of health/ wealth. > > Wearing Emerlad for the native whose birth details given below > > may lead to serious health problem/ accident/ litigations etc. > > Astrological reasons : > > (1) mercury is 11th lord from Arudha Lagna resperesting sudden happenings > > (2)in the constellation of moon the planet ruling over 12th house from arudha lagna. > > (3)moon placed in 12th house from Lagna > > (4) mercury combust in 8th house in rasi being the 12th lord > > (5)mercury vargottma and in marana karaka sthana in the navamsa chart (relationships/partnerships/ communications) > > (6)Sun and mercury are closely conjunct in the 8th house. Mercury being friend of Sun is giving the result of Sun. Note the navamsa chart. Sun owns the 4th navamsa or khara navamsa counted from taurus navamsa occupied by mercury > > How does wearing of Emerlad is going to free it from sun's influence ? > > The more you strengthen Mercury....the more negatively and successfully > > it would act for Sun ! > > It would be better if the learned members and astrologer go with a few lines of basic analysis while suggesting or accepting gemstones for betterment of future. > > Regards, > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > Natal Chart > > May 27, 1969 > Time: 16:05:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > New Delhi, India > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > Lagna 3 Li 32' 00.92 " Chit 4 Li Sc > Sun - PK 12 Ta 32' 54.51 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar > Moon - MK 17 Vi 19' 35.25 " Hast 3 Vi Ge > Mars ® - BK 18 Sc 01' 28.23 " Jye 1 Sc Sg > Mercury ® - PiK 15 Ta 29' 34.04 " Rohi 2 Ta Ta > Jupiter - DK 2 Vi 42' 47.15 " UPha 2 Vi Cp > Venus - AK 28 Pi 52' 27.09 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > Saturn - GK 9 Ar 54' 34.47 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge > Rahu - AmK 3 Pi 25' 45.69 " UBha 1 Pi Le > Ketu 3 Vi 25' 45.69 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > Maandi 24 Le 54' 27.20 " PPha 4 Le Sc > Gulika 13 Le 41' 22.41 " PPha 1 Le Le > Bhava Lagna 21 Li 03' 21.74 " Visa 1 Li Ar > Hora Lagna 29 Pi 59' 13.84 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > , " gopalraju12 " <gopalraju12@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil Bhai, > > Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. > > Gopal Raju > > Scientist and Occultist > > Mob. : *********** > > > > see YELLOW PAGES in the link below > > /database > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > > > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > > > Regards > > > Sunil > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Dear friends, Nice suggestions by Shree Suresh Babu Jee, Nipuna Yoga takes place only in the signs ruled by mercury,sun i.e. gemini, virgo and leo. ------------------------------- From my humble experiences (i) weakness or affliction of 3rd and 11th lord from Arudha Lagna (ii) occupation of weak or afflicted planets in 3rd and 11th from Arudha Lagna (iii) Rasi Drishti of Badhaka Planet (iv) rasi drishti upon 12th house from Arudha Lagna are the condition for sudden physical or financial happenings leading to physical or financial losses. ---- Moreover as per stellar dispositor concepts- mercury in the constellation of moon placed in the 12th house is not good financially to be strengthened for obvious reasons. With regards and best wishes, Mrutyunjay Tripathy , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Dear Sunil, > > I fully agree with Shree Mrinthyujay Tripati ji about Emerald may not be beneficial to you, but for a different reason, which is natural since both of us use different analytical methods. > > Mercury is 12th lord & 9th lord in the 8th from lagna and chandra lagna lord and 10th lord in the 9th from chandra lagna. So Mercury is mostly beneficial except for the 12th house lordship which is also important. However the point is it is vargottama & retrograde, hence already very powerfull. It being combust is not considered very important as per classics since Mercury never leaves the company of Sun and is mostly combust - which also confer Nipuna Yoga. > > However, the chart has other afflictions Such as > > Venus + Rahu in the 6th & Jupiter + Moon +Ketu in the 12th. Jupiter is having Neecha Navamsa also. So a planet which is along with Moon giving Kesari Yoga is weak and also afflicted with Ketu. > > Further Mars, 2nd house lord is also retrograde that too in its own house. > > I wonder how wearing a stone shall help rectify the effects of retrograde planet. > > Only a few case with prooven history can conform the validity of such logics. > > Till then it would be better if the native resorts to religious remedies, particularly since Jupiter & venus are in Sama Sapthama with venus exalted & varothama. Mahala Laxmi should be propitiated to financial stabilty. Rahu / Ketu pooja should also be done along with poojas to Lord Mahadev. > > As Shree Mrithyunja Tripati Ji as implied, it is upto to you to experiment with costly stones or spend a few minutes of your time to propetiate the deities. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > , " astrologer_mrutyunjay " <astrologer_mrutyunjay@> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > Testing astrology and gemstone is good > > > > if you can financially afford it. > > > > > > But I do not think it is wise to afford > > > > at the cost of one's > > > > loss of health/ wealth. > > > > Wearing Emerlad for the native whose birth details given below > > > > may lead to serious health problem/ accident/ litigations etc. > > > > Astrological reasons : > > > > (1) mercury is 11th lord from Arudha Lagna resperesting sudden happenings > > > > (2)in the constellation of moon the planet ruling over 12th house from arudha lagna. > > > > (3)moon placed in 12th house from Lagna > > > > (4) mercury combust in 8th house in rasi being the 12th lord > > > > (5)mercury vargottma and in marana karaka sthana in the navamsa chart (relationships/partnerships/ communications) > > > > (6)Sun and mercury are closely conjunct in the 8th house. Mercury being friend of Sun is giving the result of Sun. Note the navamsa chart. Sun owns the 4th navamsa or khara navamsa counted from taurus navamsa occupied by mercury > > > > How does wearing of Emerlad is going to free it from sun's influence ? > > > > The more you strengthen Mercury....the more negatively and successfully > > > > it would act for Sun ! > > > > It would be better if the learned members and astrologer go with a few lines of basic analysis while suggesting or accepting gemstones for betterment of future. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > May 27, 1969 > > Time: 16:05:00 > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > New Delhi, India > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > Lagna 3 Li 32' 00.92 " Chit 4 Li Sc > > Sun - PK 12 Ta 32' 54.51 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar > > Moon - MK 17 Vi 19' 35.25 " Hast 3 Vi Ge > > Mars ® - BK 18 Sc 01' 28.23 " Jye 1 Sc Sg > > Mercury ® - PiK 15 Ta 29' 34.04 " Rohi 2 Ta Ta > > Jupiter - DK 2 Vi 42' 47.15 " UPha 2 Vi Cp > > Venus - AK 28 Pi 52' 27.09 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > Saturn - GK 9 Ar 54' 34.47 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge > > Rahu - AmK 3 Pi 25' 45.69 " UBha 1 Pi Le > > Ketu 3 Vi 25' 45.69 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > Maandi 24 Le 54' 27.20 " PPha 4 Le Sc > > Gulika 13 Le 41' 22.41 " PPha 1 Le Le > > Bhava Lagna 21 Li 03' 21.74 " Visa 1 Li Ar > > Hora Lagna 29 Pi 59' 13.84 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > , " gopalraju12 " <gopalraju12@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sunil Bhai, > > > Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. > > > Gopal Raju > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > Mob. : *********** > > > > > > see YELLOW PAGES in the link below > > > /database > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > > > > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > > > > Regards > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Respected Niket Ji, Gopal Raju Ji, Tripathi Ji, Suresh Ji Thanks for kind reply and and valuable suggestion. I tried Neelam first time in 2000 but that gave me severe adverse effect.I was trapped by enemies and found sleepless night for one year.I was running through Jup-Jup at that time and saturn is 4th and 5th lord.Then I stopped wearing Neelam and tried Emerald. I am bit confused about result of Emerald either it may be the carry of the effect of Neelam or my dasa- antardasha or transit effect the things worsened and I stopped wearing Emerald also. I worship five deities Ganesha, Surya, Vishnu, Durga and shiva daily. To appease my ishtadevata Ganesha I recite Ganesh Atharvashirsh many times a day. To propitiate Moon ( in 12th house ) I observe fast on every full moon days without consuming water.But it seems that due to heavy karmic effects nothing seems to work effectively.I hope that by positive karmas and worship the negative effects of planets will be rectified in due course of time. Once again I thank to all of you from the core of heart. Best Regards Sunil , " astrologer_mrutyunjay " <astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote: > > Dear friends, > > > Nice suggestions by Shree Suresh Babu Jee, > > Nipuna Yoga takes place only in the signs ruled by mercury,sun > > i.e. gemini, virgo and leo. > > ------------------------------- > From my humble experiences > > (i) weakness or affliction of 3rd and 11th lord from Arudha Lagna > > (ii) occupation of weak or afflicted planets in 3rd and 11th from Arudha Lagna > > (iii) Rasi Drishti of Badhaka Planet > > (iv) rasi drishti upon 12th house from Arudha Lagna > > are the condition for sudden physical or financial happenings > > leading to physical or financial losses. > > ---- > > Moreover as per stellar dispositor concepts- > > mercury in the constellation of moon placed in the 12th house > > is not good financially > > to be strengthened for obvious reasons. > > > > > With regards and best wishes, > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > I fully agree with Shree Mrinthyujay Tripati ji about Emerald may not be beneficial to you, but for a different reason, which is natural since both of us use different analytical methods. > > > > Mercury is 12th lord & 9th lord in the 8th from lagna and chandra lagna lord and 10th lord in the 9th from chandra lagna. So Mercury is mostly beneficial except for the 12th house lordship which is also important. However the point is it is vargottama & retrograde, hence already very powerfull. It being combust is not considered very important as per classics since Mercury never leaves the company of Sun and is mostly combust - which also confer Nipuna Yoga. > > > > However, the chart has other afflictions Such as > > > > Venus + Rahu in the 6th & Jupiter + Moon +Ketu in the 12th. Jupiter is having Neecha Navamsa also. So a planet which is along with Moon giving Kesari Yoga is weak and also afflicted with Ketu. > > > > Further Mars, 2nd house lord is also retrograde that too in its own house. > > > > I wonder how wearing a stone shall help rectify the effects of retrograde planet. > > > > Only a few case with prooven history can conform the validity of such logics. > > > > Till then it would be better if the native resorts to religious remedies, particularly since Jupiter & venus are in Sama Sapthama with venus exalted & varothama. Mahala Laxmi should be propitiated to financial stabilty. Rahu / Ketu pooja should also be done along with poojas to Lord Mahadev. > > > > As Shree Mrithyunja Tripati Ji as implied, it is upto to you to experiment with costly stones or spend a few minutes of your time to propetiate the deities. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " astrologer_mrutyunjay " <astrologer_mrutyunjay@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > Testing astrology and gemstone is good > > > > > > if you can financially afford it. > > > > > > > > > But I do not think it is wise to afford > > > > > > at the cost of one's > > > > > > loss of health/ wealth. > > > > > > Wearing Emerlad for the native whose birth details given below > > > > > > may lead to serious health problem/ accident/ litigations etc. > > > > > > Astrological reasons : > > > > > > (1) mercury is 11th lord from Arudha Lagna resperesting sudden happenings > > > > > > (2)in the constellation of moon the planet ruling over 12th house from arudha lagna. > > > > > > (3)moon placed in 12th house from Lagna > > > > > > (4) mercury combust in 8th house in rasi being the 12th lord > > > > > > (5)mercury vargottma and in marana karaka sthana in the navamsa chart (relationships/partnerships/ communications) > > > > > > (6)Sun and mercury are closely conjunct in the 8th house. Mercury being friend of Sun is giving the result of Sun. Note the navamsa chart. Sun owns the 4th navamsa or khara navamsa counted from taurus navamsa occupied by mercury > > > > > > How does wearing of Emerlad is going to free it from sun's influence ? > > > > > > The more you strengthen Mercury....the more negatively and successfully > > > > > > it would act for Sun ! > > > > > > It would be better if the learned members and astrologer go with a few lines of basic analysis while suggesting or accepting gemstones for betterment of future. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > May 27, 1969 > > > Time: 16:05:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > > > Lagna 3 Li 32' 00.92 " Chit 4 Li Sc > > > Sun - PK 12 Ta 32' 54.51 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar > > > Moon - MK 17 Vi 19' 35.25 " Hast 3 Vi Ge > > > Mars ® - BK 18 Sc 01' 28.23 " Jye 1 Sc Sg > > > Mercury ® - PiK 15 Ta 29' 34.04 " Rohi 2 Ta Ta > > > Jupiter - DK 2 Vi 42' 47.15 " UPha 2 Vi Cp > > > Venus - AK 28 Pi 52' 27.09 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > Saturn - GK 9 Ar 54' 34.47 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge > > > Rahu - AmK 3 Pi 25' 45.69 " UBha 1 Pi Le > > > Ketu 3 Vi 25' 45.69 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > > Maandi 24 Le 54' 27.20 " PPha 4 Le Sc > > > Gulika 13 Le 41' 22.41 " PPha 1 Le Le > > > Bhava Lagna 21 Li 03' 21.74 " Visa 1 Li Ar > > > Hora Lagna 29 Pi 59' 13.84 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > > , " gopalraju12 " <gopalraju12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Bhai, > > > > Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > Mob. : *********** > > > > > > > > see YELLOW PAGES in the link below > > > > /database > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > > > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > > > > > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > > > > > Regards > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 sri ganeshaya namah dear sunil, you can go ahead and wear an emerald with confidence.never mind what other astrologers say. emerald will definately give you good results. humbly, chandan s sabarwal. , " gopalraju12 " <gopalraju12 wrote: > > Dear Sunil Bhai, > Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. > Gopal Raju > Scientist and Occultist > Mob. : *********** > > see YELLOW PAGES in the link below > /database > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > > Regards > > Sunil > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 dear mrityunjay ji arudha lagna is not reality. it shows maya/illusion ... what others think and how is the native perceived. it does not show what actually has god kept in store for us through the native chart. dont go on illusions , reality is the rashi kundli itself. if a chart does not have raja yogas , arudhas cannot give a person anything. but if a chart has powerful yogas ,arudhas may just alter the image of the native , but the native will still enjoy them anyways. i have tested this method of prescribing gems based on placement of planets from AL on several clients and it has failed miserably everytime , but based upon the rasi itself , clients called me up and thanked me upfront. i think you are just blindly following sjc teachings, but sjc may not always be right. many of their theories dont simply work !!! , " astrologer_mrutyunjay " <astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote: > > Dear friends, > > Testing astrology and gemstone is good > > if you can financially afford it. > > > But I do not think it is wise to afford > > at the cost of one's > > loss of health/ wealth. > > Wearing Emerlad for the native whose birth details given below > > may lead to serious health problem/ accident/ litigations etc. > > Astrological reasons : > > (1) mercury is 11th lord from Arudha Lagna resperesting sudden happenings > > (2)in the constellation of moon the planet ruling over 12th house from arudha lagna. > > (3)moon placed in 12th house from Lagna > > (4) mercury combust in 8th house in rasi being the 12th lord > > (5)mercury vargottma and in marana karaka sthana in the navamsa chart (relationships/partnerships/ communications) > > (6)Sun and mercury are closely conjunct in the 8th house. Mercury being friend of Sun is giving the result of Sun. Note the navamsa chart. Sun owns the 4th navamsa or khara navamsa counted from taurus navamsa occupied by mercury > > How does wearing of Emerlad is going to free it from sun's influence ? > > The more you strengthen Mercury....the more negatively and successfully > > it would act for Sun ! > > It would be better if the learned members and astrologer go with a few lines of basic analysis while suggesting or accepting gemstones for betterment of future. > > Regards, > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > Natal Chart > > May 27, 1969 > Time: 16:05:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > New Delhi, India > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > Lagna 3 Li 32' 00.92 " Chit 4 Li Sc > Sun - PK 12 Ta 32' 54.51 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar > Moon - MK 17 Vi 19' 35.25 " Hast 3 Vi Ge > Mars ® - BK 18 Sc 01' 28.23 " Jye 1 Sc Sg > Mercury ® - PiK 15 Ta 29' 34.04 " Rohi 2 Ta Ta > Jupiter - DK 2 Vi 42' 47.15 " UPha 2 Vi Cp > Venus - AK 28 Pi 52' 27.09 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > Saturn - GK 9 Ar 54' 34.47 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge > Rahu - AmK 3 Pi 25' 45.69 " UBha 1 Pi Le > Ketu 3 Vi 25' 45.69 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > Maandi 24 Le 54' 27.20 " PPha 4 Le Sc > Gulika 13 Le 41' 22.41 " PPha 1 Le Le > Bhava Lagna 21 Li 03' 21.74 " Visa 1 Li Ar > Hora Lagna 29 Pi 59' 13.84 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > , " gopalraju12 " <gopalraju12@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil Bhai, > > Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. > > Gopal Raju > > Scientist and Occultist > > Mob. : *********** > > > > see YELLOW PAGES in the link below > > /database > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > > > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > > > Regards > > > Sunil > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Dear Sunil, It seems that you did not get the point I was trying to make. pls read carefully. //particularly since Jupiter & venus are in Sama Sapthama with venus exalted & varothama. Mahala Laxmi should be propitiated to financial stabilty. Rahu / Ketu pooja should also be done along with poojas to Lord Mahadev. // Maha Laxmi. - She holds the key to your prospirity. A,G,Suresh Babu Shenoy. ________________________________ sunilsingh20022001 <sunilsingh20022001 Monday, September 7, 2009 6:21:27 PM Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone Respected Niket Ji, Gopal Raju Ji, Tripathi Ji, Suresh Ji Thanks for kind reply and and valuable suggestion. I tried Neelam first time in 2000 but that gave me severe adverse effect.I was trapped by enemies and found sleepless night for one year.I was running through Jup-Jup at that time and saturn is 4th and 5th lord.Then I stopped wearing Neelam and tried Emerald. I am bit confused about result of Emerald either it may be the carry of the effect of Neelam or my dasa- antardasha or transit effect the things worsened and I stopped wearing Emerald also. I worship five deities Ganesha, Surya, Vishnu, Durga and shiva daily. To appease my ishtadevata Ganesha I recite Ganesh Atharvashirsh many times a day. To propitiate Moon ( in 12th house ) I observe fast on every full moon days without consuming water.But it seems that due to heavy karmic effects nothing seems to work effectively. I hope that by positive karmas and worship the negative effects of planets will be rectified in due course of time. Once again I thank to all of you from the core of heart. Best Regards Sunil , " astrologer_ mrutyunjay " <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ ...> wrote: > > Dear friends, > > > Nice suggestions by Shree Suresh Babu Jee, > > Nipuna Yoga takes place only in the signs ruled by mercury,sun > > i.e. gemini, virgo and leo. > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > From my humble experiences > > (i) weakness or affliction of 3rd and 11th lord from Arudha Lagna > > (ii) occupation of weak or afflicted planets in 3rd and 11th from Arudha Lagna > > (iii) Rasi Drishti of Badhaka Planet > > (iv) rasi drishti upon 12th house from Arudha Lagna > > are the condition for sudden physical or financial happenings > > leading to physical or financial losses. > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > Moreover as per stellar dispositor concepts- > > mercury in the constellation of moon placed in the 12th house > > is not good financially > > to be strengthened for obvious reasons. > > > > > With regards and best wishes, > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > I fully agree with Shree Mrinthyujay Tripati ji about Emerald may not be beneficial to you, but for a different reason, which is natural since both of us use different analytical methods. > > > > Mercury is 12th lord & 9th lord in the 8th from lagna and chandra lagna lord and 10th lord in the 9th from chandra lagna. So Mercury is mostly beneficial except for the 12th house lordship which is also important. However the point is it is vargottama & retrograde, hence already very powerfull. It being combust is not considered very important as per classics since Mercury never leaves the company of Sun and is mostly combust - which also confer Nipuna Yoga. > > > > However, the chart has other afflictions Such as > > > > Venus + Rahu in the 6th & Jupiter + Moon +Ketu in the 12th. Jupiter is having Neecha Navamsa also. So a planet which is along with Moon giving Kesari Yoga is weak and also afflicted with Ketu. > > > > Further Mars, 2nd house lord is also retrograde that too in its own house. > > > > I wonder how wearing a stone shall help rectify the effects of retrograde planet. > > > > Only a few case with prooven history can conform the validity of such logics. > > > > Till then it would be better if the native resorts to religious remedies, particularly since Jupiter & venus are in Sama Sapthama with venus exalted & varothama. Mahala Laxmi should be propitiated to financial stabilty. Rahu / Ketu pooja should also be done along with poojas to Lord Mahadev. > > > > As Shree Mrithyunja Tripati Ji as implied, it is upto to you to experiment with costly stones or spend a few minutes of your time to propetiate the deities. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " astrologer_ mrutyunjay " <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > Testing astrology and gemstone is good > > > > > > if you can financially afford it. > > > > > > > > > But I do not think it is wise to afford > > > > > > at the cost of one's > > > > > > loss of health/ wealth. > > > > > > Wearing Emerlad for the native whose birth details given below > > > > > > may lead to serious health problem/ accident/ litigations etc. > > > > > > Astrological reasons : > > > > > > (1) mercury is 11th lord from Arudha Lagna resperesting sudden happenings > > > > > > (2)in the constellation of moon the planet ruling over 12th house from arudha lagna. > > > > > > (3)moon placed in 12th house from Lagna > > > > > > (4) mercury combust in 8th house in rasi being the 12th lord > > > > > > (5)mercury vargottma and in marana karaka sthana in the navamsa chart (relationships/ partnerships/ communications) > > > > > > (6)Sun and mercury are closely conjunct in the 8th house. Mercury being friend of Sun is giving the result of Sun. Note the navamsa chart. Sun owns the 4th navamsa or khara navamsa counted from taurus navamsa occupied by mercury > > > > > > How does wearing of Emerlad is going to free it from sun's influence ? > > > > > > The more you strengthen Mercury....the more negatively and successfully > > > > > > it would act for Sun ! > > > > > > It would be better if the learned members and astrologer go with a few lines of basic analysis while suggesting or accepting gemstones for betterment of future. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > May 27, 1969 > > > Time: 16:05:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > > > Lagna 3 Li 32' 00.92 " Chit 4 Li Sc > > > Sun - PK 12 Ta 32' 54.51 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar > > > Moon - MK 17 Vi 19' 35.25 " Hast 3 Vi Ge > > > Mars ® - BK 18 Sc 01' 28.23 " Jye 1 Sc Sg > > > Mercury ® - PiK 15 Ta 29' 34.04 " Rohi 2 Ta Ta > > > Jupiter - DK 2 Vi 42' 47.15 " UPha 2 Vi Cp > > > Venus - AK 28 Pi 52' 27.09 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > Saturn - GK 9 Ar 54' 34.47 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge > > > Rahu - AmK 3 Pi 25' 45.69 " UBha 1 Pi Le > > > Ketu 3 Vi 25' 45.69 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > > Maandi 24 Le 54' 27.20 " PPha 4 Le Sc > > > Gulika 13 Le 41' 22.41 " PPha 1 Le Le > > > Bhava Lagna 21 Li 03' 21.74 " Visa 1 Li Ar > > > Hora Lagna 29 Pi 59' 13.84 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > > , " gopalraju12 " <gopalraju12@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Bhai, > > > > Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > Mob. : *********** > > > > > > > > see YELLOW PAGES in the link below > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > > > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > > > > > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > > > > > Regards > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Dear members & Shree Mrithyunjay Tripati ji, Thank you for your further insights and you are right particularly on the aspect of Mercury being being in the star of Moon. However, I beg to differ on the point of Nipuna yoga being effective only in the mercurian signs & leo. I don't remember any classical works making an exception on the effect of Sun+ Mercury except as per Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam where they have differentiated the effect NOT based on signs BUT on bhava in which they are placed. (kindly point out if any one has seen it so. It is not easy to search all the books in a short time). I am just quoting the relevant verses from a few authentic works. maanasaagarii. vidvaanaaryo raajamaanyaH sevaashiilaH priyaMvadaH yashasviica sthiradravyo budhasuurya samaagame.. yavana jataka, suuryendau vaakyaguNairupetaM vidvaaMsamaaryam balarupadR^iaptaM yashorthinaM sevakamasthiraartham khitiishvaraaNaaM dayitaM sataaM cha.. saraavalii.. sevaakR^itasthiradhano raviGYeyoH priyavachaa yashorthaH syaat aaryaH kshitipatidayitaH sataaM cha balaruupavittavidyaavaan.. jaatakaabharaNaM. priyavachaH sachivo bahusevayaarjitadhanashcha kalaakushalo bhavet shrutapaTurhi naro naLiniipatau kumudiniipatisuunusamanvite.. varaaha horaa. budhena nipuNam dhiikiirtisaukhyaanvitaM. I am sure the learned members shall understand the meaning of these verses. Mercury offcourse aquires the qualities of the sign & planets it is associated with. So since it is in the sign of naturaly benefic Venus and aspected by Jupiter from the sign of Mercury, The effect of Nipuna Yoga cannot be discounted. Even if we consider the Sage Bhrigu or Hora Ratnam, where the effect of Sun+Mercury is not good in the 8th , it is very good in 9th (from chandra lagna) and more so since Jupiter also is aspecting it. Hence, I feel we need not consider any exception to the rule, particularly in this case. Mercury association with other planets or vargas may add or twist the nature of yoga like in gemini, the yoga (Nipunatha) might be felt in arts while in virgo it might be felt more on education, in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. It is also interesting to note while we both were against wearing green emerald, the native himself has revealed that he has been wearing it and did not do much good. So, we have to assume that it proves the point. Just a few thoughts on the subject of Nipuna Yoga. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ astrologer_mrutyunjay <astrologer_mrutyunjay Monday, September 7, 2009 3:24:43 PM Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone Dear friends, Nice suggestions by Shree Suresh Babu Jee, Nipuna Yoga takes place only in the signs ruled by mercury,sun i.e. gemini, virgo and leo. ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - From my humble experiences (i) weakness or affliction of 3rd and 11th lord from Arudha Lagna (ii) occupation of weak or afflicted planets in 3rd and 11th from Arudha Lagna (iii) Rasi Drishti of Badhaka Planet (iv) rasi drishti upon 12th house from Arudha Lagna are the condition for sudden physical or financial happenings leading to physical or financial losses. ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - Moreover as per stellar dispositor concepts- mercury in the constellation of moon placed in the 12th house is not good financially to be strengthened for obvious reasons. With regards and best wishes, Mrutyunjay Tripathy , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Sunil, > > I fully agree with Shree Mrinthyujay Tripati ji about Emerald may not be beneficial to you, but for a different reason, which is natural since both of us use different analytical methods. > > Mercury is 12th lord & 9th lord in the 8th from lagna and chandra lagna lord and 10th lord in the 9th from chandra lagna. So Mercury is mostly beneficial except for the 12th house lordship which is also important. However the point is it is vargottama & retrograde, hence already very powerfull. It being combust is not considered very important as per classics since Mercury never leaves the company of Sun and is mostly combust - which also confer Nipuna Yoga. > > However, the chart has other afflictions Such as > > Venus + Rahu in the 6th & Jupiter + Moon +Ketu in the 12th. Jupiter is having Neecha Navamsa also. So a planet which is along with Moon giving Kesari Yoga is weak and also afflicted with Ketu. > > Further Mars, 2nd house lord is also retrograde that too in its own house. > > I wonder how wearing a stone shall help rectify the effects of retrograde planet. > > Only a few case with prooven history can conform the validity of such logics. > > Till then it would be better if the native resorts to religious remedies, particularly since Jupiter & venus are in Sama Sapthama with venus exalted & varothama. Mahala Laxmi should be propitiated to financial stabilty. Rahu / Ketu pooja should also be done along with poojas to Lord Mahadev. > > As Shree Mrithyunja Tripati Ji as implied, it is upto to you to experiment with costly stones or spend a few minutes of your time to propetiate the deities. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > , " astrologer_ mrutyunjay " <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ > wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > Testing astrology and gemstone is good > > > > if you can financially afford it. > > > > > > But I do not think it is wise to afford > > > > at the cost of one's > > > > loss of health/ wealth. > > > > Wearing Emerlad for the native whose birth details given below > > > > may lead to serious health problem/ accident/ litigations etc. > > > > Astrological reasons : > > > > (1) mercury is 11th lord from Arudha Lagna resperesting sudden happenings > > > > (2)in the constellation of moon the planet ruling over 12th house from arudha lagna. > > > > (3)moon placed in 12th house from Lagna > > > > (4) mercury combust in 8th house in rasi being the 12th lord > > > > (5)mercury vargottma and in marana karaka sthana in the navamsa chart (relationships/ partnerships/ communications) > > > > (6)Sun and mercury are closely conjunct in the 8th house. Mercury being friend of Sun is giving the result of Sun. Note the navamsa chart. Sun owns the 4th navamsa or khara navamsa counted from taurus navamsa occupied by mercury > > > > How does wearing of Emerlad is going to free it from sun's influence ? > > > > The more you strengthen Mercury....the more negatively and successfully > > > > it would act for Sun ! > > > > It would be better if the learned members and astrologer go with a few lines of basic analysis while suggesting or accepting gemstones for betterment of future. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > May 27, 1969 > > Time: 16:05:00 > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > New Delhi, India > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > Lagna 3 Li 32' 00.92 " Chit 4 Li Sc > > Sun - PK 12 Ta 32' 54.51 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar > > Moon - MK 17 Vi 19' 35.25 " Hast 3 Vi Ge > > Mars ® - BK 18 Sc 01' 28.23 " Jye 1 Sc Sg > > Mercury ® - PiK 15 Ta 29' 34.04 " Rohi 2 Ta Ta > > Jupiter - DK 2 Vi 42' 47.15 " UPha 2 Vi Cp > > Venus - AK 28 Pi 52' 27.09 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > Saturn - GK 9 Ar 54' 34.47 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge > > Rahu - AmK 3 Pi 25' 45.69 " UBha 1 Pi Le > > Ketu 3 Vi 25' 45.69 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > Maandi 24 Le 54' 27.20 " PPha 4 Le Sc > > Gulika 13 Le 41' 22.41 " PPha 1 Le Le > > Bhava Lagna 21 Li 03' 21.74 " Visa 1 Li Ar > > Hora Lagna 29 Pi 59' 13.84 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > , " gopalraju12 " <gopalraju12@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sunil Bhai, > > > Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. > > > Gopal Raju > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > Mob. : *********** > > > > > > see YELLOW PAGES in the link below > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 @> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > > > > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > > > > Regards > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Dear Shri Suresh Ji,Mrityunjaya Ji, let me meddle with all your permission to convey that:in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen. mercury having no behaviour and working like sjadow palnets(?) is not palpable.But proximity to sun is a common feature which causes nipuna/budha aditya like situations,how ever right it may be Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote: Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone Monday, September 7, 2009, 3:15 PM Dear members & Shree Mrithyunjay Tripati ji, Thank you for your further insights and you are right particularly on the aspect of Mercury being being in the star of Moon. However, I beg to differ on the point of Nipuna yoga being effective only in the mercurian signs & leo. I don't remember any classical works making an exception on the effect of Sun+ Mercury except as per Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam where they have differentiated the effect NOT based on signs BUT on bhava in which they are placed. (kindly point out if any one has seen it so. It is not easy to search all the books in a short time). I am just quoting the relevant verses from a few authentic works. maanasaagarii. vidvaanaaryo raajamaanyaH sevaashiilaH priyaMvadaH yashasviica sthiradravyo budhasuurya samaagame.. yavana jataka, suuryendau vaakyaguNairupetaM vidvaaMsamaaryam balarupadR^iaptaM yashorthinaM sevakamasthiraartha m khitiishvaraaNaaM dayitaM sataaM cha.. saraavalii.. sevaakR^itasthiradh ano raviGYeyoH priyavachaa yashorthaH syaat aaryaH kshitipatidayitaH sataaM cha balaruupavittavidya avaan.. jaatakaabharaNaM. priyavachaH sachivo bahusevayaarjitadha nashcha kalaakushalo bhavet shrutapaTurhi naro naLiniipatau kumudiniipatisuunus amanvite. . varaaha horaa. budhena nipuNam dhiikiirtisaukhyaan vitaM. I am sure the learned members shall understand the meaning of these verses. Mercury offcourse aquires the qualities of the sign & planets it is associated with. So since it is in the sign of naturaly benefic Venus and aspected by Jupiter from the sign of Mercury, The effect of Nipuna Yoga cannot be discounted. Even if we consider the Sage Bhrigu or Hora Ratnam, where the effect of Sun+Mercury is not good in the 8th , it is very good in 9th (from chandra lagna) and more so since Jupiter also is aspecting it. Hence, I feel we need not consider any exception to the rule, particularly in this case. Mercury association with other planets or vargas may add or twist the nature of yoga like in gemini, the yoga (Nipunatha) might be felt in arts while in virgo it might be felt more on education, in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. It is also interesting to note while we both were against wearing green emerald, the native himself has revealed that he has been wearing it and did not do much good. So, we have to assume that it proves the point. Just a few thoughts on the subject of Nipuna Yoga. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ astrologer_mrutyunj ay <astrologer_mrutyunj ay > Monday, September 7, 2009 3:24:43 PM Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone Dear friends, Nice suggestions by Shree Suresh Babu Jee, Nipuna Yoga takes place only in the signs ruled by mercury,sun i.e. gemini, virgo and leo. ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - From my humble experiences (i) weakness or affliction of 3rd and 11th lord from Arudha Lagna (ii) occupation of weak or afflicted planets in 3rd and 11th from Arudha Lagna (iii) Rasi Drishti of Badhaka Planet (iv) rasi drishti upon 12th house from Arudha Lagna are the condition for sudden physical or financial happenings leading to physical or financial losses. ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - Moreover as per stellar dispositor concepts- mercury in the constellation of moon placed in the 12th house is not good financially to be strengthened for obvious reasons. With regards and best wishes, Mrutyunjay Tripathy , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Sunil, > > I fully agree with Shree Mrinthyujay Tripati ji about Emerald may not be beneficial to you, but for a different reason, which is natural since both of us use different analytical methods. > > Mercury is 12th lord & 9th lord in the 8th from lagna and chandra lagna lord and 10th lord in the 9th from chandra lagna. So Mercury is mostly beneficial except for the 12th house lordship which is also important. However the point is it is vargottama & retrograde, hence already very powerfull. It being combust is not considered very important as per classics since Mercury never leaves the company of Sun and is mostly combust - which also confer Nipuna Yoga. > > However, the chart has other afflictions Such as > > Venus + Rahu in the 6th & Jupiter + Moon +Ketu in the 12th. Jupiter is having Neecha Navamsa also. So a planet which is along with Moon giving Kesari Yoga is weak and also afflicted with Ketu. > > Further Mars, 2nd house lord is also retrograde that too in its own house. > > I wonder how wearing a stone shall help rectify the effects of retrograde planet. > > Only a few case with prooven history can conform the validity of such logics. > > Till then it would be better if the native resorts to religious remedies, particularly since Jupiter & venus are in Sama Sapthama with venus exalted & varothama. Mahala Laxmi should be propitiated to financial stabilty. Rahu / Ketu pooja should also be done along with poojas to Lord Mahadev. > > As Shree Mrithyunja Tripati Ji as implied, it is upto to you to experiment with costly stones or spend a few minutes of your time to propetiate the deities. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > , " astrologer_ mrutyunjay " <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ > wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > Testing astrology and gemstone is good > > > > if you can financially afford it. > > > > > > But I do not think it is wise to afford > > > > at the cost of one's > > > > loss of health/ wealth. > > > > Wearing Emerlad for the native whose birth details given below > > > > may lead to serious health problem/ accident/ litigations etc. > > > > Astrological reasons : > > > > (1) mercury is 11th lord from Arudha Lagna resperesting sudden happenings > > > > (2)in the constellation of moon the planet ruling over 12th house from arudha lagna. > > > > (3)moon placed in 12th house from Lagna > > > > (4) mercury combust in 8th house in rasi being the 12th lord > > > > (5)mercury vargottma and in marana karaka sthana in the navamsa chart (relationships/ partnerships/ communications) > > > > (6)Sun and mercury are closely conjunct in the 8th house. Mercury being friend of Sun is giving the result of Sun. Note the navamsa chart. Sun owns the 4th navamsa or khara navamsa counted from taurus navamsa occupied by mercury > > > > How does wearing of Emerlad is going to free it from sun's influence ? > > > > The more you strengthen Mercury....the more negatively and successfully > > > > it would act for Sun ! > > > > It would be better if the learned members and astrologer go with a few lines of basic analysis while suggesting or accepting gemstones for betterment of future. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > May 27, 1969 > > Time: 16:05:00 > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > New Delhi, India > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > Lagna 3 Li 32' 00.92 " Chit 4 Li Sc > > Sun - PK 12 Ta 32' 54.51 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar > > Moon - MK 17 Vi 19' 35.25 " Hast 3 Vi Ge > > Mars ® - BK 18 Sc 01' 28.23 " Jye 1 Sc Sg > > Mercury ® - PiK 15 Ta 29' 34.04 " Rohi 2 Ta Ta > > Jupiter - DK 2 Vi 42' 47.15 " UPha 2 Vi Cp > > Venus - AK 28 Pi 52' 27.09 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > Saturn - GK 9 Ar 54' 34.47 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge > > Rahu - AmK 3 Pi 25' 45.69 " UBha 1 Pi Le > > Ketu 3 Vi 25' 45.69 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > Maandi 24 Le 54' 27.20 " PPha 4 Le Sc > > Gulika 13 Le 41' 22.41 " PPha 1 Le Le > > Bhava Lagna 21 Li 03' 21.74 " Visa 1 Li Ar > > Hora Lagna 29 Pi 59' 13.84 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > , " gopalraju12 " <gopalraju12@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sunil Bhai, > > > Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. > > > Gopal Raju > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > Mob. : *********** > > > > > > see YELLOW PAGES in the link below > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 @> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > > > > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > > > > Regards > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Dear Krishna Ji, //in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen.// That is exactly my point. The traits or field of activity / expertice gets modified as per the sign Mercury occupies and other planets it gets associated. However, The core quality of what is meant by " Nipuna " meaning profeciency / skillfull / clever/ sharp / keen / perfect / precise etc could be seen in one field or other. But this yoga need not mean that the skill or profeciency should benefit the native financialy as could be seen from the verses. Finance & Skill are two different aspects. A cobler could be skillfull in the the work he is doing and nipuna yoga can make him stand apart amoung others. But he need become rich. Interestingly the views of Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam (Which I suspect is borrowed from Brighu itself) is also worth considering as it places a little more importance to the placement of Sun rather than the mercury itself. If any one is further interested I shall quote those also. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. ________________________________ Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 Tuesday, September 8, 2009 8:08:21 AM Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone Dear Shri Suresh Ji,Mrityunjaya Ji, let me meddle with all your permission to convey that:in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen. mercury having no behaviour and working like sjadow palnets(?) is not palpable.But proximity to sun is a common feature which causes nipuna/budha aditya like situations,how ever right it may be Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone Monday, September 7, 2009, 3:15 PM Dear members & Shree Mrithyunjay Tripati ji, Thank you for your further insights and you are right particularly on the aspect of Mercury being being in the star of Moon. However, I beg to differ on the point of Nipuna yoga being effective only in the mercurian signs & leo. I don't remember any classical works making an exception on the effect of Sun+ Mercury except as per Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam where they have differentiated the effect NOT based on signs BUT on bhava in which they are placed. (kindly point out if any one has seen it so. It is not easy to search all the books in a short time). I am just quoting the relevant verses from a few authentic works. maanasaagarii. vidvaanaaryo raajamaanyaH sevaashiilaH priyaMvadaH yashasviica sthiradravyo budhasuurya samaagame.. yavana jataka, suuryendau vaakyaguNairupetaM vidvaaMsamaaryam balarupadR^iaptaM yashorthinaM sevakamasthiraartha m khitiishvaraaNaaM dayitaM sataaM cha.. saraavalii.. sevaakR^itasthiradh ano raviGYeyoH priyavachaa yashorthaH syaat aaryaH kshitipatidayitaH sataaM cha balaruupavittavidya avaan.. jaatakaabharaNaM. priyavachaH sachivo bahusevayaarjitadha nashcha kalaakushalo bhavet shrutapaTurhi naro naLiniipatau kumudiniipatisuunus amanvite. . varaaha horaa. budhena nipuNam dhiikiirtisaukhyaan vitaM. I am sure the learned members shall understand the meaning of these verses. Mercury offcourse aquires the qualities of the sign & planets it is associated with. So since it is in the sign of naturaly benefic Venus and aspected by Jupiter from the sign of Mercury, The effect of Nipuna Yoga cannot be discounted. Even if we consider the Sage Bhrigu or Hora Ratnam, where the effect of Sun+Mercury is not good in the 8th , it is very good in 9th (from chandra lagna) and more so since Jupiter also is aspecting it. Hence, I feel we need not consider any exception to the rule, particularly in this case. Mercury association with other planets or vargas may add or twist the nature of yoga like in gemini, the yoga (Nipunatha) might be felt in arts while in virgo it might be felt more on education, in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. It is also interesting to note while we both were against wearing green emerald, the native himself has revealed that he has been wearing it and did not do much good. So, we have to assume that it proves the point. Just a few thoughts on the subject of Nipuna Yoga. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ astrologer_mrutyunj ay <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay > Monday, September 7, 2009 3:24:43 PM Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone Dear friends, Nice suggestions by Shree Suresh Babu Jee, Nipuna Yoga takes place only in the signs ruled by mercury,sun i.e. gemini, virgo and leo. ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - From my humble experiences (i) weakness or affliction of 3rd and 11th lord from Arudha Lagna (ii) occupation of weak or afflicted planets in 3rd and 11th from Arudha Lagna (iii) Rasi Drishti of Badhaka Planet (iv) rasi drishti upon 12th house from Arudha Lagna are the condition for sudden physical or financial happenings leading to physical or financial losses. ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - Moreover as per stellar dispositor concepts- mercury in the constellation of moon placed in the 12th house is not good financially to be strengthened for obvious reasons. With regards and best wishes, Mrutyunjay Tripathy , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Sunil, > > I fully agree with Shree Mrinthyujay Tripati ji about Emerald may not be beneficial to you, but for a different reason, which is natural since both of us use different analytical methods. > > Mercury is 12th lord & 9th lord in the 8th from lagna and chandra lagna lord and 10th lord in the 9th from chandra lagna. So Mercury is mostly beneficial except for the 12th house lordship which is also important. However the point is it is vargottama & retrograde, hence already very powerfull. It being combust is not considered very important as per classics since Mercury never leaves the company of Sun and is mostly combust - which also confer Nipuna Yoga. > > However, the chart has other afflictions Such as > > Venus + Rahu in the 6th & Jupiter + Moon +Ketu in the 12th. Jupiter is having Neecha Navamsa also. So a planet which is along with Moon giving Kesari Yoga is weak and also afflicted with Ketu. > > Further Mars, 2nd house lord is also retrograde that too in its own house. > > I wonder how wearing a stone shall help rectify the effects of retrograde planet. > > Only a few case with prooven history can conform the validity of such logics. > > Till then it would be better if the native resorts to religious remedies, particularly since Jupiter & venus are in Sama Sapthama with venus exalted & varothama. Mahala Laxmi should be propitiated to financial stabilty. Rahu / Ketu pooja should also be done along with poojas to Lord Mahadev. > > As Shree Mrithyunja Tripati Ji as implied, it is upto to you to experiment with costly stones or spend a few minutes of your time to propetiate the deities. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > , " astrologer_ mrutyunjay " <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ > wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > Testing astrology and gemstone is good > > > > if you can financially afford it. > > > > > > But I do not think it is wise to afford > > > > at the cost of one's > > > > loss of health/ wealth. > > > > Wearing Emerlad for the native whose birth details given below > > > > may lead to serious health problem/ accident/ litigations etc. > > > > Astrological reasons : > > > > (1) mercury is 11th lord from Arudha Lagna resperesting sudden happenings > > > > (2)in the constellation of moon the planet ruling over 12th house from arudha lagna. > > > > (3)moon placed in 12th house from Lagna > > > > (4) mercury combust in 8th house in rasi being the 12th lord > > > > (5)mercury vargottma and in marana karaka sthana in the navamsa chart (relationships/ partnerships/ communications) > > > > (6)Sun and mercury are closely conjunct in the 8th house. Mercury being friend of Sun is giving the result of Sun. Note the navamsa chart. Sun owns the 4th navamsa or khara navamsa counted from taurus navamsa occupied by mercury > > > > How does wearing of Emerlad is going to free it from sun's influence ? > > > > The more you strengthen Mercury....the more negatively and successfully > > > > it would act for Sun ! > > > > It would be better if the learned members and astrologer go with a few lines of basic analysis while suggesting or accepting gemstones for betterment of future. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > May 27, 1969 > > Time: 16:05:00 > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > New Delhi, India > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > Lagna 3 Li 32' 00.92 " Chit 4 Li Sc > > Sun - PK 12 Ta 32' 54.51 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar > > Moon - MK 17 Vi 19' 35.25 " Hast 3 Vi Ge > > Mars ® - BK 18 Sc 01' 28.23 " Jye 1 Sc Sg > > Mercury ® - PiK 15 Ta 29' 34.04 " Rohi 2 Ta Ta > > Jupiter - DK 2 Vi 42' 47.15 " UPha 2 Vi Cp > > Venus - AK 28 Pi 52' 27.09 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > Saturn - GK 9 Ar 54' 34.47 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge > > Rahu - AmK 3 Pi 25' 45.69 " UBha 1 Pi Le > > Ketu 3 Vi 25' 45.69 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > Maandi 24 Le 54' 27.20 " PPha 4 Le Sc > > Gulika 13 Le 41' 22.41 " PPha 1 Le Le > > Bhava Lagna 21 Li 03' 21.74 " Visa 1 Li Ar > > Hora Lagna 29 Pi 59' 13.84 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > , " gopalraju12 " <gopalraju12@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sunil Bhai, > > > Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. > > > Gopal Raju > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > Mob. : *********** > > > > > > see YELLOW PAGES in the link below > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 @> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > > > > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > > > > Regards > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Respected Suresh Ji, Chandan Ji, Krishnan Ji, Thanks for analysis of my horoscope in detail. I have no words to appreciate the kindness of the learned members of this group. I will start recitation of Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam from this Navratra (19th Sep) after initiation. Ashvin navratra is best time to start this pooja. The rule is first recite Narayan Hridayam then Lakshmi Hridayam then again Narayan Hridayam. This stotra is described in rahasya bhag of Atharvveda. The author of this stotra is Bhargav rishi. I will also worship Rahu/Ketu daily. Once again thanks to learned members Niket Ji, Gopal Raju Ji, Tripathi Ji, Chandan Ji, Suresh Ji for giving valuable input and precious time. Best Regards Sunil , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Dear Krishna Ji, > > //in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen.// > > That is exactly my point. The traits or field of activity / expertice gets modified as per the sign Mercury occupies and other planets it gets associated. However, The core quality of what is meant by " Nipuna " meaning profeciency / skillfull / clever/ sharp / keen / perfect / precise etc could be seen in one field or other. But this yoga need not mean that the skill or profeciency should benefit the native financialy as could be seen from the verses. Finance & Skill are two different aspects. A cobler could be skillfull in the the work he is doing and nipuna yoga can make him stand apart amoung others. But he need become rich. > > Interestingly the views of Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam (Which I suspect is borrowed from Brighu itself) is also worth considering as it places a little more importance to the placement of Sun rather than the mercury itself. > > If any one is further interested I shall quote those also. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > > > > ________________________________ > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > > Tuesday, September 8, 2009 8:08:21 AM > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > Dear Shri Suresh Ji,Mrityunjaya Ji, > let me meddle with all your permission to convey that:in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen. > mercury having no behaviour and working like sjadow palnets(?) is not palpable.But proximity to sun is a common feature which causes nipuna/budha aditya like situations,how ever right it may be > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > > > --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > Monday, September 7, 2009, 3:15 PM > > > > Dear members & Shree Mrithyunjay Tripati ji, > > Thank you for your further insights and you are right particularly on the aspect of Mercury being being in the star of Moon. > > However, I beg to differ on the point of Nipuna yoga being effective only in the mercurian signs & leo. > > I don't remember any classical works making an exception on the effect of Sun+ Mercury except as per Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam where they have differentiated the effect NOT based on signs BUT on bhava in which they are placed. (kindly point out if any one has seen it so. It is not easy to search all the books in a short time). > > I am just quoting the relevant verses from a few authentic works. > maanasaagarii. > vidvaanaaryo raajamaanyaH > sevaashiilaH priyaMvadaH > yashasviica sthiradravyo > budhasuurya samaagame.. > yavana jataka, > suuryendau vaakyaguNairupetaM > vidvaaMsamaaryam balarupadR^iaptaM > yashorthinaM sevakamasthiraartha m > khitiishvaraaNaaM dayitaM sataaM cha.. > saraavalii.. > sevaakR^itasthiradh ano raviGYeyoH priyavachaa yashorthaH syaat > aaryaH kshitipatidayitaH sataaM cha balaruupavittavidya avaan.. > jaatakaabharaNaM. > priyavachaH sachivo bahusevayaarjitadha nashcha kalaakushalo bhavet > shrutapaTurhi naro naLiniipatau kumudiniipatisuunus amanvite. . > varaaha horaa. > budhena nipuNam dhiikiirtisaukhyaan vitaM. > > I am sure the learned members shall understand the meaning of these verses. > > Mercury offcourse aquires the qualities of the sign & planets it is associated with. So since it is in the sign of naturaly benefic Venus and aspected by Jupiter from the sign of Mercury, The effect of Nipuna Yoga cannot be discounted. > > Even if we consider the Sage Bhrigu or Hora Ratnam, where the effect of Sun+Mercury is not good in the 8th , it is very good in 9th (from chandra lagna) and more so since Jupiter also is aspecting it. > > Hence, I feel we need not consider any exception to the rule, particularly in this case. Mercury association with other planets or vargas may add or twist the nature of yoga like in gemini, the yoga (Nipunatha) might be felt in arts while in virgo it might be felt more on education, in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. > > It is also interesting to note while we both were against wearing green emerald, the native himself has revealed that he has been wearing it and did not do much good. So, we have to assume that it proves the point. > > Just a few thoughts on the subject of Nipuna Yoga. > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > astrologer_mrutyunj ay <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay > > > Monday, September 7, 2009 3:24:43 PM > Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > Dear friends, > > Nice suggestions by Shree Suresh Babu Jee, > > Nipuna Yoga takes place only in the signs ruled by mercury,sun > > i.e. gemini, virgo and leo. > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > From my humble experiences > > (i) weakness or affliction of 3rd and 11th lord from Arudha Lagna > > (ii) occupation of weak or afflicted planets in 3rd and 11th from Arudha Lagna > > (iii) Rasi Drishti of Badhaka Planet > > (iv) rasi drishti upon 12th house from Arudha Lagna > > are the condition for sudden physical or financial happenings > > leading to physical or financial losses. > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > Moreover as per stellar dispositor concepts- > > mercury in the constellation of moon placed in the 12th house > > is not good financially > > to be strengthened for obvious reasons. > > With regards and best wishes, > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > I fully agree with Shree Mrinthyujay Tripati ji about Emerald may not be beneficial to you, but for a different reason, which is natural since both of us use different analytical methods. > > > > Mercury is 12th lord & 9th lord in the 8th from lagna and chandra lagna lord and 10th lord in the 9th from chandra lagna. So Mercury is mostly beneficial except for the 12th house lordship which is also important. However the point is it is vargottama & retrograde, hence already very powerfull. It being combust is not considered very important as per classics since Mercury never leaves the company of Sun and is mostly combust - which also confer Nipuna Yoga. > > > > However, the chart has other afflictions Such as > > > > Venus + Rahu in the 6th & Jupiter + Moon +Ketu in the 12th. Jupiter is having Neecha Navamsa also. So a planet which is along with Moon giving Kesari Yoga is weak and also afflicted with Ketu. > > > > Further Mars, 2nd house lord is also retrograde that too in its own house. > > > > I wonder how wearing a stone shall help rectify the effects of retrograde planet. > > > > Only a few case with prooven history can conform the validity of such logics. > > > > Till then it would be better if the native resorts to religious remedies, particularly since Jupiter & venus are in Sama Sapthama with venus exalted & varothama. Mahala Laxmi should be propitiated to financial stabilty. Rahu / Ketu pooja should also be done along with poojas to Lord Mahadev. > > > > As Shree Mrithyunja Tripati Ji as implied, it is upto to you to experiment with costly stones or spend a few minutes of your time to propetiate the deities. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " astrologer_ mrutyunjay " <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > Testing astrology and gemstone is good > > > > > > if you can financially afford it. > > > > > > > > > But I do not think it is wise to afford > > > > > > at the cost of one's > > > > > > loss of health/ wealth. > > > > > > Wearing Emerlad for the native whose birth details given below > > > > > > may lead to serious health problem/ accident/ litigations etc. > > > > > > Astrological reasons : > > > > > > (1) mercury is 11th lord from Arudha Lagna resperesting sudden happenings > > > > > > (2)in the constellation of moon the planet ruling over 12th house from arudha lagna. > > > > > > (3)moon placed in 12th house from Lagna > > > > > > (4) mercury combust in 8th house in rasi being the 12th lord > > > > > > (5)mercury vargottma and in marana karaka sthana in the navamsa chart (relationships/ partnerships/ communications) > > > > > > (6)Sun and mercury are closely conjunct in the 8th house. Mercury being friend of Sun is giving the result of Sun. Note the navamsa chart. Sun owns the 4th navamsa or khara navamsa counted from taurus navamsa occupied by mercury > > > > > > How does wearing of Emerlad is going to free it from sun's influence ? > > > > > > The more you strengthen Mercury....the more negatively and successfully > > > > > > it would act for Sun ! > > > > > > It would be better if the learned members and astrologer go with a few lines of basic analysis while suggesting or accepting gemstones for betterment of future. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > May 27, 1969 > > > Time: 16:05:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > > > Lagna 3 Li 32' 00.92 " Chit 4 Li Sc > > > Sun - PK 12 Ta 32' 54.51 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar > > > Moon - MK 17 Vi 19' 35.25 " Hast 3 Vi Ge > > > Mars ® - BK 18 Sc 01' 28.23 " Jye 1 Sc Sg > > > Mercury ® - PiK 15 Ta 29' 34.04 " Rohi 2 Ta Ta > > > Jupiter - DK 2 Vi 42' 47.15 " UPha 2 Vi Cp > > > Venus - AK 28 Pi 52' 27.09 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > Saturn - GK 9 Ar 54' 34.47 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge > > > Rahu - AmK 3 Pi 25' 45.69 " UBha 1 Pi Le > > > Ketu 3 Vi 25' 45.69 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > > Maandi 24 Le 54' 27.20 " PPha 4 Le Sc > > > Gulika 13 Le 41' 22.41 " PPha 1 Le Le > > > Bhava Lagna 21 Li 03' 21.74 " Visa 1 Li Ar > > > Hora Lagna 29 Pi 59' 13.84 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > > , " gopalraju12 " <gopalraju12@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Bhai, > > > > Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > Mob. : *********** > > > > > > > > see YELLOW PAGES in the link below > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > > > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > > > > > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > > > > > Regards > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Dear sunil singh That is excellent. However, if your are not reciting the stotra according to tantra - nyasa etc, you need not do the repeatation, Just recitation of Laxmi Hridaya & Narayana Hridaya will do. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 wrote: > > Respected Suresh Ji, Chandan Ji, Krishnan Ji, > Thanks for analysis of my horoscope in detail. I have no words to appreciate the kindness of the learned members of this group. > I will start recitation of Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam from this Navratra (19th Sep) after initiation. Ashvin navratra is best time to start this pooja. The rule is first recite Narayan Hridayam then Lakshmi Hridayam then again Narayan Hridayam. This stotra is described in rahasya bhag of Atharvveda. The author of this stotra is Bhargav rishi. > I will also worship Rahu/Ketu daily. > Once again thanks to learned members Niket Ji, Gopal Raju Ji, Tripathi Ji, Chandan Ji, Suresh Ji for giving valuable input and precious time. > Best Regards > Sunil > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > Dear Krishna Ji, > > > > //in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen.// > > > > That is exactly my point. The traits or field of activity / expertice gets modified as per the sign Mercury occupies and other planets it gets associated. However, The core quality of what is meant by " Nipuna " meaning profeciency / skillfull / clever/ sharp / keen / perfect / precise etc could be seen in one field or other. But this yoga need not mean that the skill or profeciency should benefit the native financialy as could be seen from the verses. Finance & Skill are two different aspects. A cobler could be skillfull in the the work he is doing and nipuna yoga can make him stand apart amoung others. But he need become rich. > > > > Interestingly the views of Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam (Which I suspect is borrowed from Brighu itself) is also worth considering as it places a little more importance to the placement of Sun rather than the mercury itself. > > > > If any one is further interested I shall quote those also. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> > > > > Tuesday, September 8, 2009 8:08:21 AM > > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > Dear Shri Suresh Ji,Mrityunjaya Ji, > > let me meddle with all your permission to convey that:in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen. > > mercury having no behaviour and working like sjadow palnets(?) is not palpable.But proximity to sun is a common feature which causes nipuna/budha aditya like situations,how ever right it may be > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > > > > > --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: > > > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > > > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > Monday, September 7, 2009, 3:15 PM > > > > > > > > Dear members & Shree Mrithyunjay Tripati ji, > > > > Thank you for your further insights and you are right particularly on the aspect of Mercury being being in the star of Moon. > > > > However, I beg to differ on the point of Nipuna yoga being effective only in the mercurian signs & leo. > > > > I don't remember any classical works making an exception on the effect of Sun+ Mercury except as per Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam where they have differentiated the effect NOT based on signs BUT on bhava in which they are placed. (kindly point out if any one has seen it so. It is not easy to search all the books in a short time). > > > > I am just quoting the relevant verses from a few authentic works. > > maanasaagarii. > > vidvaanaaryo raajamaanyaH > > sevaashiilaH priyaMvadaH > > yashasviica sthiradravyo > > budhasuurya samaagame.. > > yavana jataka, > > suuryendau vaakyaguNairupetaM > > vidvaaMsamaaryam balarupadR^iaptaM > > yashorthinaM sevakamasthiraartha m > > khitiishvaraaNaaM dayitaM sataaM cha.. > > saraavalii.. > > sevaakR^itasthiradh ano raviGYeyoH priyavachaa yashorthaH syaat > > aaryaH kshitipatidayitaH sataaM cha balaruupavittavidya avaan.. > > jaatakaabharaNaM. > > priyavachaH sachivo bahusevayaarjitadha nashcha kalaakushalo bhavet > > shrutapaTurhi naro naLiniipatau kumudiniipatisuunus amanvite. . > > varaaha horaa. > > budhena nipuNam dhiikiirtisaukhyaan vitaM. > > > > I am sure the learned members shall understand the meaning of these verses. > > > > Mercury offcourse aquires the qualities of the sign & planets it is associated with. So since it is in the sign of naturaly benefic Venus and aspected by Jupiter from the sign of Mercury, The effect of Nipuna Yoga cannot be discounted. > > > > Even if we consider the Sage Bhrigu or Hora Ratnam, where the effect of Sun+Mercury is not good in the 8th , it is very good in 9th (from chandra lagna) and more so since Jupiter also is aspecting it. > > > > Hence, I feel we need not consider any exception to the rule, particularly in this case. Mercury association with other planets or vargas may add or twist the nature of yoga like in gemini, the yoga (Nipunatha) might be felt in arts while in virgo it might be felt more on education, in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. > > > > It is also interesting to note while we both were against wearing green emerald, the native himself has revealed that he has been wearing it and did not do much good. So, we have to assume that it proves the point. > > > > Just a few thoughts on the subject of Nipuna Yoga. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > astrologer_mrutyunj ay <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay > > > > > Monday, September 7, 2009 3:24:43 PM > > Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > Nice suggestions by Shree Suresh Babu Jee, > > > > Nipuna Yoga takes place only in the signs ruled by mercury,sun > > > > i.e. gemini, virgo and leo. > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > From my humble experiences > > > > (i) weakness or affliction of 3rd and 11th lord from Arudha Lagna > > > > (ii) occupation of weak or afflicted planets in 3rd and 11th from Arudha Lagna > > > > (iii) Rasi Drishti of Badhaka Planet > > > > (iv) rasi drishti upon 12th house from Arudha Lagna > > > > are the condition for sudden physical or financial happenings > > > > leading to physical or financial losses. > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > Moreover as per stellar dispositor concepts- > > > > mercury in the constellation of moon placed in the 12th house > > > > is not good financially > > > > to be strengthened for obvious reasons. > > > > With regards and best wishes, > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > I fully agree with Shree Mrinthyujay Tripati ji about Emerald may not be beneficial to you, but for a different reason, which is natural since both of us use different analytical methods. > > > > > > Mercury is 12th lord & 9th lord in the 8th from lagna and chandra lagna lord and 10th lord in the 9th from chandra lagna. So Mercury is mostly beneficial except for the 12th house lordship which is also important. However the point is it is vargottama & retrograde, hence already very powerfull. It being combust is not considered very important as per classics since Mercury never leaves the company of Sun and is mostly combust - which also confer Nipuna Yoga. > > > > > > However, the chart has other afflictions Such as > > > > > > Venus + Rahu in the 6th & Jupiter + Moon +Ketu in the 12th. Jupiter is having Neecha Navamsa also. So a planet which is along with Moon giving Kesari Yoga is weak and also afflicted with Ketu. > > > > > > Further Mars, 2nd house lord is also retrograde that too in its own house. > > > > > > I wonder how wearing a stone shall help rectify the effects of retrograde planet. > > > > > > Only a few case with prooven history can conform the validity of such logics. > > > > > > Till then it would be better if the native resorts to religious remedies, particularly since Jupiter & venus are in Sama Sapthama with venus exalted & varothama. Mahala Laxmi should be propitiated to financial stabilty. Rahu / Ketu pooja should also be done along with poojas to Lord Mahadev. > > > > > > As Shree Mrithyunja Tripati Ji as implied, it is upto to you to experiment with costly stones or spend a few minutes of your time to propetiate the deities. > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " astrologer_ mrutyunjay " <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > Testing astrology and gemstone is good > > > > > > > > if you can financially afford it. > > > > > > > > > > > > But I do not think it is wise to afford > > > > > > > > at the cost of one's > > > > > > > > loss of health/ wealth. > > > > > > > > Wearing Emerlad for the native whose birth details given below > > > > > > > > may lead to serious health problem/ accident/ litigations etc. > > > > > > > > Astrological reasons : > > > > > > > > (1) mercury is 11th lord from Arudha Lagna resperesting sudden happenings > > > > > > > > (2)in the constellation of moon the planet ruling over 12th house from arudha lagna. > > > > > > > > (3)moon placed in 12th house from Lagna > > > > > > > > (4) mercury combust in 8th house in rasi being the 12th lord > > > > > > > > (5)mercury vargottma and in marana karaka sthana in the navamsa chart (relationships/ partnerships/ communications) > > > > > > > > (6)Sun and mercury are closely conjunct in the 8th house. Mercury being friend of Sun is giving the result of Sun. Note the navamsa chart. Sun owns the 4th navamsa or khara navamsa counted from taurus navamsa occupied by mercury > > > > > > > > How does wearing of Emerlad is going to free it from sun's influence ? > > > > > > > > The more you strengthen Mercury....the more negatively and successfully > > > > > > > > it would act for Sun ! > > > > > > > > It would be better if the learned members and astrologer go with a few lines of basic analysis while suggesting or accepting gemstones for betterment of future. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > May 27, 1969 > > > > Time: 16:05:00 > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > > > > > Lagna 3 Li 32' 00.92 " Chit 4 Li Sc > > > > Sun - PK 12 Ta 32' 54.51 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar > > > > Moon - MK 17 Vi 19' 35.25 " Hast 3 Vi Ge > > > > Mars ® - BK 18 Sc 01' 28.23 " Jye 1 Sc Sg > > > > Mercury ® - PiK 15 Ta 29' 34.04 " Rohi 2 Ta Ta > > > > Jupiter - DK 2 Vi 42' 47.15 " UPha 2 Vi Cp > > > > Venus - AK 28 Pi 52' 27.09 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > Saturn - GK 9 Ar 54' 34.47 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge > > > > Rahu - AmK 3 Pi 25' 45.69 " UBha 1 Pi Le > > > > Ketu 3 Vi 25' 45.69 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > > > Maandi 24 Le 54' 27.20 " PPha 4 Le Sc > > > > Gulika 13 Le 41' 22.41 " PPha 1 Le Le > > > > Bhava Lagna 21 Li 03' 21.74 " Visa 1 Li Ar > > > > Hora Lagna 29 Pi 59' 13.84 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > > > > , " gopalraju12 " <gopalraju12@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Bhai, > > > > > Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > > Mob. : *********** > > > > > > > > > > see YELLOW PAGES in the link below > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > > > > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > > > > > > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Respected Suresh Ji, I will recite the stotra with viniyoga and nyas as given in Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam. In phalshruti of Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam it is written- ya asvayugmansi cha shukla pakshe, ramotsave sannihite cha bhaktya pathettathaikottarvarvriddhya, labhet sauvarnamayeem suvrishteem So on the first day I will recite one path on second day two and following the tithi 15 repeatition on poornima (total 120 repeatitions in 15 days).After that I will recite one path daily. Best Regards Sunil , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Dear sunil singh > > That is excellent. However, if your are not reciting the stotra according to tantra - nyasa etc, you need not do the repeatation, Just recitation of Laxmi Hridaya & Narayana Hridaya will do. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > Respected Suresh Ji, Chandan Ji, Krishnan Ji, > > Thanks for analysis of my horoscope in detail. I have no words to appreciate the kindness of the learned members of this group. > > I will start recitation of Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam from this Navratra (19th Sep) after initiation. Ashvin navratra is best time to start this pooja. The rule is first recite Narayan Hridayam then Lakshmi Hridayam then again Narayan Hridayam. This stotra is described in rahasya bhag of Atharvveda. The author of this stotra is Bhargav rishi. > > I will also worship Rahu/Ketu daily. > > Once again thanks to learned members Niket Ji, Gopal Raju Ji, Tripathi Ji, Chandan Ji, Suresh Ji for giving valuable input and precious time. > > Best Regards > > Sunil > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Krishna Ji, > > > > > > //in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen.// > > > > > > That is exactly my point. The traits or field of activity / expertice gets modified as per the sign Mercury occupies and other planets it gets associated. However, The core quality of what is meant by " Nipuna " meaning profeciency / skillfull / clever/ sharp / keen / perfect / precise etc could be seen in one field or other. But this yoga need not mean that the skill or profeciency should benefit the native financialy as could be seen from the verses. Finance & Skill are two different aspects. A cobler could be skillfull in the the work he is doing and nipuna yoga can make him stand apart amoung others. But he need become rich. > > > > > > Interestingly the views of Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam (Which I suspect is borrowed from Brighu itself) is also worth considering as it places a little more importance to the placement of Sun rather than the mercury itself. > > > > > > If any one is further interested I shall quote those also. > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> > > > > > > Tuesday, September 8, 2009 8:08:21 AM > > > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Suresh Ji,Mrityunjaya Ji, > > > let me meddle with all your permission to convey that:in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen. > > > mercury having no behaviour and working like sjadow palnets(?) is not palpable.But proximity to sun is a common feature which causes nipuna/budha aditya like situations,how ever right it may be > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: > > > > > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > > > > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > Monday, September 7, 2009, 3:15 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members & Shree Mrithyunjay Tripati ji, > > > > > > Thank you for your further insights and you are right particularly on the aspect of Mercury being being in the star of Moon. > > > > > > However, I beg to differ on the point of Nipuna yoga being effective only in the mercurian signs & leo. > > > > > > I don't remember any classical works making an exception on the effect of Sun+ Mercury except as per Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam where they have differentiated the effect NOT based on signs BUT on bhava in which they are placed. (kindly point out if any one has seen it so. It is not easy to search all the books in a short time). > > > > > > I am just quoting the relevant verses from a few authentic works. > > > maanasaagarii. > > > vidvaanaaryo raajamaanyaH > > > sevaashiilaH priyaMvadaH > > > yashasviica sthiradravyo > > > budhasuurya samaagame.. > > > yavana jataka, > > > suuryendau vaakyaguNairupetaM > > > vidvaaMsamaaryam balarupadR^iaptaM > > > yashorthinaM sevakamasthiraartha m > > > khitiishvaraaNaaM dayitaM sataaM cha.. > > > saraavalii.. > > > sevaakR^itasthiradh ano raviGYeyoH priyavachaa yashorthaH syaat > > > aaryaH kshitipatidayitaH sataaM cha balaruupavittavidya avaan.. > > > jaatakaabharaNaM. > > > priyavachaH sachivo bahusevayaarjitadha nashcha kalaakushalo bhavet > > > shrutapaTurhi naro naLiniipatau kumudiniipatisuunus amanvite. . > > > varaaha horaa. > > > budhena nipuNam dhiikiirtisaukhyaan vitaM. > > > > > > I am sure the learned members shall understand the meaning of these verses. > > > > > > Mercury offcourse aquires the qualities of the sign & planets it is associated with. So since it is in the sign of naturaly benefic Venus and aspected by Jupiter from the sign of Mercury, The effect of Nipuna Yoga cannot be discounted. > > > > > > Even if we consider the Sage Bhrigu or Hora Ratnam, where the effect of Sun+Mercury is not good in the 8th , it is very good in 9th (from chandra lagna) and more so since Jupiter also is aspecting it. > > > > > > Hence, I feel we need not consider any exception to the rule, particularly in this case. Mercury association with other planets or vargas may add or twist the nature of yoga like in gemini, the yoga (Nipunatha) might be felt in arts while in virgo it might be felt more on education, in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. > > > > > > It is also interesting to note while we both were against wearing green emerald, the native himself has revealed that he has been wearing it and did not do much good. So, we have to assume that it proves the point. > > > > > > Just a few thoughts on the subject of Nipuna Yoga. > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > astrologer_mrutyunj ay <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay > > > > > > > Monday, September 7, 2009 3:24:43 PM > > > Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > Nice suggestions by Shree Suresh Babu Jee, > > > > > > Nipuna Yoga takes place only in the signs ruled by mercury,sun > > > > > > i.e. gemini, virgo and leo. > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > From my humble experiences > > > > > > (i) weakness or affliction of 3rd and 11th lord from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > (ii) occupation of weak or afflicted planets in 3rd and 11th from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > (iii) Rasi Drishti of Badhaka Planet > > > > > > (iv) rasi drishti upon 12th house from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > are the condition for sudden physical or financial happenings > > > > > > leading to physical or financial losses. > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > Moreover as per stellar dispositor concepts- > > > > > > mercury in the constellation of moon placed in the 12th house > > > > > > is not good financially > > > > > > to be strengthened for obvious reasons. > > > > > > With regards and best wishes, > > > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > I fully agree with Shree Mrinthyujay Tripati ji about Emerald may not be beneficial to you, but for a different reason, which is natural since both of us use different analytical methods. > > > > > > > > Mercury is 12th lord & 9th lord in the 8th from lagna and chandra lagna lord and 10th lord in the 9th from chandra lagna. So Mercury is mostly beneficial except for the 12th house lordship which is also important. However the point is it is vargottama & retrograde, hence already very powerfull. It being combust is not considered very important as per classics since Mercury never leaves the company of Sun and is mostly combust - which also confer Nipuna Yoga. > > > > > > > > However, the chart has other afflictions Such as > > > > > > > > Venus + Rahu in the 6th & Jupiter + Moon +Ketu in the 12th. Jupiter is having Neecha Navamsa also. So a planet which is along with Moon giving Kesari Yoga is weak and also afflicted with Ketu. > > > > > > > > Further Mars, 2nd house lord is also retrograde that too in its own house. > > > > > > > > I wonder how wearing a stone shall help rectify the effects of retrograde planet. > > > > > > > > Only a few case with prooven history can conform the validity of such logics. > > > > > > > > Till then it would be better if the native resorts to religious remedies, particularly since Jupiter & venus are in Sama Sapthama with venus exalted & varothama. Mahala Laxmi should be propitiated to financial stabilty. Rahu / Ketu pooja should also be done along with poojas to Lord Mahadev. > > > > > > > > As Shree Mrithyunja Tripati Ji as implied, it is upto to you to experiment with costly stones or spend a few minutes of your time to propetiate the deities. > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " astrologer_ mrutyunjay " <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > Testing astrology and gemstone is good > > > > > > > > > > if you can financially afford it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I do not think it is wise to afford > > > > > > > > > > at the cost of one's > > > > > > > > > > loss of health/ wealth. > > > > > > > > > > Wearing Emerlad for the native whose birth details given below > > > > > > > > > > may lead to serious health problem/ accident/ litigations etc. > > > > > > > > > > Astrological reasons : > > > > > > > > > > (1) mercury is 11th lord from Arudha Lagna resperesting sudden happenings > > > > > > > > > > (2)in the constellation of moon the planet ruling over 12th house from arudha lagna. > > > > > > > > > > (3)moon placed in 12th house from Lagna > > > > > > > > > > (4) mercury combust in 8th house in rasi being the 12th lord > > > > > > > > > > (5)mercury vargottma and in marana karaka sthana in the navamsa chart (relationships/ partnerships/ communications) > > > > > > > > > > (6)Sun and mercury are closely conjunct in the 8th house. Mercury being friend of Sun is giving the result of Sun. Note the navamsa chart. Sun owns the 4th navamsa or khara navamsa counted from taurus navamsa occupied by mercury > > > > > > > > > > How does wearing of Emerlad is going to free it from sun's influence ? > > > > > > > > > > The more you strengthen Mercury....the more negatively and successfully > > > > > > > > > > it would act for Sun ! > > > > > > > > > > It would be better if the learned members and astrologer go with a few lines of basic analysis while suggesting or accepting gemstones for betterment of future. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > May 27, 1969 > > > > > Time: 16:05:00 > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 3 Li 32' 00.92 " Chit 4 Li Sc > > > > > Sun - PK 12 Ta 32' 54.51 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar > > > > > Moon - MK 17 Vi 19' 35.25 " Hast 3 Vi Ge > > > > > Mars ® - BK 18 Sc 01' 28.23 " Jye 1 Sc Sg > > > > > Mercury ® - PiK 15 Ta 29' 34.04 " Rohi 2 Ta Ta > > > > > Jupiter - DK 2 Vi 42' 47.15 " UPha 2 Vi Cp > > > > > Venus - AK 28 Pi 52' 27.09 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > Saturn - GK 9 Ar 54' 34.47 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge > > > > > Rahu - AmK 3 Pi 25' 45.69 " UBha 1 Pi Le > > > > > Ketu 3 Vi 25' 45.69 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > > > > Maandi 24 Le 54' 27.20 " PPha 4 Le Sc > > > > > Gulika 13 Le 41' 22.41 " PPha 1 Le Le > > > > > Bhava Lagna 21 Li 03' 21.74 " Visa 1 Li Ar > > > > > Hora Lagna 29 Pi 59' 13.84 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > > > > > > , " gopalraju12 " <gopalraju12@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Bhai, > > > > > > Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > > > Mob. : *********** > > > > > > > > > > > > see YELLOW PAGES in the link below > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > > > > > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > > > > > > > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Dear Sunil, yes, I know about it. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ sunilsingh20022001 <sunilsingh20022001 Tuesday, September 8, 2009 3:50:41 PM Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone Respected Suresh Ji, I will recite the stotra with viniyoga and nyas as given in Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam. In phalshruti of Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam it is written- ya asvayugmansi cha shukla pakshe, ramotsave sannihite cha bhaktya pathettathaikottarv arvriddhya, labhet sauvarnamayeem suvrishteem So on the first day I will recite one path on second day two and following the tithi 15 repeatition on poornima (total 120 repeatitions in 15 days).After that I will recite one path daily. Best Regards Sunil , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear sunil singh > > That is excellent. However, if your are not reciting the stotra according to tantra - nyasa etc, you need not do the repeatation, Just recitation of Laxmi Hridaya & Narayana Hridaya will do. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 @> wrote: > > > > Respected Suresh Ji, Chandan Ji, Krishnan Ji, > > Thanks for analysis of my horoscope in detail. I have no words to appreciate the kindness of the learned members of this group. > > I will start recitation of Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam from this Navratra (19th Sep) after initiation. Ashvin navratra is best time to start this pooja. The rule is first recite Narayan Hridayam then Lakshmi Hridayam then again Narayan Hridayam. This stotra is described in rahasya bhag of Atharvveda. The author of this stotra is Bhargav rishi. > > I will also worship Rahu/Ketu daily. > > Once again thanks to learned members Niket Ji, Gopal Raju Ji, Tripathi Ji, Chandan Ji, Suresh Ji for giving valuable input and precious time. > > Best Regards > > Sunil > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Krishna Ji, > > > > > > //in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen.// > > > > > > That is exactly my point. The traits or field of activity / expertice gets modified as per the sign Mercury occupies and other planets it gets associated. However, The core quality of what is meant by " Nipuna " meaning profeciency / skillfull / clever/ sharp / keen / perfect / precise etc could be seen in one field or other. But this yoga need not mean that the skill or profeciency should benefit the native financialy as could be seen from the verses. Finance & Skill are two different aspects. A cobler could be skillfull in the the work he is doing and nipuna yoga can make him stand apart amoung others. But he need become rich. > > > > > > Interestingly the views of Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam (Which I suspect is borrowed from Brighu itself) is also worth considering as it places a little more importance to the placement of Sun rather than the mercury itself. > > > > > > If any one is further interested I shall quote those also. > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> > > > > > > Tuesday, September 8, 2009 8:08:21 AM > > > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Suresh Ji,Mrityunjaya Ji, > > > let me meddle with all your permission to convey that:in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen. > > > mercury having no behaviour and working like sjadow palnets(?) is not palpable.But proximity to sun is a common feature which causes nipuna/budha aditya like situations,how ever right it may be > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: > > > > > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > > > > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > Monday, September 7, 2009, 3:15 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members & Shree Mrithyunjay Tripati ji, > > > > > > Thank you for your further insights and you are right particularly on the aspect of Mercury being being in the star of Moon. > > > > > > However, I beg to differ on the point of Nipuna yoga being effective only in the mercurian signs & leo. > > > > > > I don't remember any classical works making an exception on the effect of Sun+ Mercury except as per Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam where they have differentiated the effect NOT based on signs BUT on bhava in which they are placed. (kindly point out if any one has seen it so. It is not easy to search all the books in a short time). > > > > > > I am just quoting the relevant verses from a few authentic works. > > > maanasaagarii. > > > vidvaanaaryo raajamaanyaH > > > sevaashiilaH priyaMvadaH > > > yashasviica sthiradravyo > > > budhasuurya samaagame.. > > > yavana jataka, > > > suuryendau vaakyaguNairupetaM > > > vidvaaMsamaaryam balarupadR^iaptaM > > > yashorthinaM sevakamasthiraartha m > > > khitiishvaraaNaaM dayitaM sataaM cha.. > > > saraavalii.. > > > sevaakR^itasthiradh ano raviGYeyoH priyavachaa yashorthaH syaat > > > aaryaH kshitipatidayitaH sataaM cha balaruupavittavidya avaan.. > > > jaatakaabharaNaM. > > > priyavachaH sachivo bahusevayaarjitadha nashcha kalaakushalo bhavet > > > shrutapaTurhi naro naLiniipatau kumudiniipatisuunus amanvite. . > > > varaaha horaa. > > > budhena nipuNam dhiikiirtisaukhyaan vitaM. > > > > > > I am sure the learned members shall understand the meaning of these verses. > > > > > > Mercury offcourse aquires the qualities of the sign & planets it is associated with. So since it is in the sign of naturaly benefic Venus and aspected by Jupiter from the sign of Mercury, The effect of Nipuna Yoga cannot be discounted. > > > > > > Even if we consider the Sage Bhrigu or Hora Ratnam, where the effect of Sun+Mercury is not good in the 8th , it is very good in 9th (from chandra lagna) and more so since Jupiter also is aspecting it. > > > > > > Hence, I feel we need not consider any exception to the rule, particularly in this case. Mercury association with other planets or vargas may add or twist the nature of yoga like in gemini, the yoga (Nipunatha) might be felt in arts while in virgo it might be felt more on education, in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. > > > > > > It is also interesting to note while we both were against wearing green emerald, the native himself has revealed that he has been wearing it and did not do much good. So, we have to assume that it proves the point. > > > > > > Just a few thoughts on the subject of Nipuna Yoga. > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > astrologer_mrutyunj ay <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay > > > > > > > Monday, September 7, 2009 3:24:43 PM > > > Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > Nice suggestions by Shree Suresh Babu Jee, > > > > > > Nipuna Yoga takes place only in the signs ruled by mercury,sun > > > > > > i.e. gemini, virgo and leo. > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > From my humble experiences > > > > > > (i) weakness or affliction of 3rd and 11th lord from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > (ii) occupation of weak or afflicted planets in 3rd and 11th from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > (iii) Rasi Drishti of Badhaka Planet > > > > > > (iv) rasi drishti upon 12th house from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > are the condition for sudden physical or financial happenings > > > > > > leading to physical or financial losses. > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > Moreover as per stellar dispositor concepts- > > > > > > mercury in the constellation of moon placed in the 12th house > > > > > > is not good financially > > > > > > to be strengthened for obvious reasons. > > > > > > With regards and best wishes, > > > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > I fully agree with Shree Mrinthyujay Tripati ji about Emerald may not be beneficial to you, but for a different reason, which is natural since both of us use different analytical methods. > > > > > > > > Mercury is 12th lord & 9th lord in the 8th from lagna and chandra lagna lord and 10th lord in the 9th from chandra lagna. So Mercury is mostly beneficial except for the 12th house lordship which is also important. However the point is it is vargottama & retrograde, hence already very powerfull. It being combust is not considered very important as per classics since Mercury never leaves the company of Sun and is mostly combust - which also confer Nipuna Yoga. > > > > > > > > However, the chart has other afflictions Such as > > > > > > > > Venus + Rahu in the 6th & Jupiter + Moon +Ketu in the 12th. Jupiter is having Neecha Navamsa also. So a planet which is along with Moon giving Kesari Yoga is weak and also afflicted with Ketu. > > > > > > > > Further Mars, 2nd house lord is also retrograde that too in its own house. > > > > > > > > I wonder how wearing a stone shall help rectify the effects of retrograde planet. > > > > > > > > Only a few case with prooven history can conform the validity of such logics. > > > > > > > > Till then it would be better if the native resorts to religious remedies, particularly since Jupiter & venus are in Sama Sapthama with venus exalted & varothama. Mahala Laxmi should be propitiated to financial stabilty. Rahu / Ketu pooja should also be done along with poojas to Lord Mahadev. > > > > > > > > As Shree Mrithyunja Tripati Ji as implied, it is upto to you to experiment with costly stones or spend a few minutes of your time to propetiate the deities. > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " astrologer_ mrutyunjay " <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > Testing astrology and gemstone is good > > > > > > > > > > if you can financially afford it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I do not think it is wise to afford > > > > > > > > > > at the cost of one's > > > > > > > > > > loss of health/ wealth. > > > > > > > > > > Wearing Emerlad for the native whose birth details given below > > > > > > > > > > may lead to serious health problem/ accident/ litigations etc. > > > > > > > > > > Astrological reasons : > > > > > > > > > > (1) mercury is 11th lord from Arudha Lagna resperesting sudden happenings > > > > > > > > > > (2)in the constellation of moon the planet ruling over 12th house from arudha lagna. > > > > > > > > > > (3)moon placed in 12th house from Lagna > > > > > > > > > > (4) mercury combust in 8th house in rasi being the 12th lord > > > > > > > > > > (5)mercury vargottma and in marana karaka sthana in the navamsa chart (relationships/ partnerships/ communications) > > > > > > > > > > (6)Sun and mercury are closely conjunct in the 8th house. Mercury being friend of Sun is giving the result of Sun. Note the navamsa chart. Sun owns the 4th navamsa or khara navamsa counted from taurus navamsa occupied by mercury > > > > > > > > > > How does wearing of Emerlad is going to free it from sun's influence ? > > > > > > > > > > The more you strengthen Mercury....the more negatively and successfully > > > > > > > > > > it would act for Sun ! > > > > > > > > > > It would be better if the learned members and astrologer go with a few lines of basic analysis while suggesting or accepting gemstones for betterment of future. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > May 27, 1969 > > > > > Time: 16:05:00 > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 3 Li 32' 00.92 " Chit 4 Li Sc > > > > > Sun - PK 12 Ta 32' 54.51 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar > > > > > Moon - MK 17 Vi 19' 35.25 " Hast 3 Vi Ge > > > > > Mars ® - BK 18 Sc 01' 28.23 " Jye 1 Sc Sg > > > > > Mercury ® - PiK 15 Ta 29' 34.04 " Rohi 2 Ta Ta > > > > > Jupiter - DK 2 Vi 42' 47.15 " UPha 2 Vi Cp > > > > > Venus - AK 28 Pi 52' 27.09 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > Saturn - GK 9 Ar 54' 34.47 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge > > > > > Rahu - AmK 3 Pi 25' 45.69 " UBha 1 Pi Le > > > > > Ketu 3 Vi 25' 45.69 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > > > > Maandi 24 Le 54' 27.20 " PPha 4 Le Sc > > > > > Gulika 13 Le 41' 22.41 " PPha 1 Le Le > > > > > Bhava Lagna 21 Li 03' 21.74 " Visa 1 Li Ar > > > > > Hora Lagna 29 Pi 59' 13.84 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > > > > > > , " gopalraju12 " <gopalraju12@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Bhai, > > > > > > Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > > > Mob. : *********** > > > > > > > > > > > > see YELLOW PAGES in the link below > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > > > > > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > > > > > > > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ To all Astro lovers, Every person, all over the World, is following his level best the traditional methods for analysing the specific grade of lucky gemstones. This is appreciable and salute to their intellect. BUT, besides others I have developed my own more than 25 methods for the purpose. This includes planetory strength specifically considering 6 so called Mahadosha, (i.e. mangal dosha, kalsarpa dosha, markesh, Saturn transit position, moola nakshatra, Lal Kitab), KP Significators, Palmistry, Kabala of numbers, john Heydan's numerolgy, Life cycles, etc. Details have been given in my Gemstones book (Hindi)- " How to choose your lucky gemstone " . Kindly do not take this as my add. This is just to encourage all astro lovers that their may be so many methods, other than traditional methods, to analyse a specific stone or combination of stones. All will appreciate that this is a long and time consuming excercise. And all may not have this much patience to consider in this way. If we have to save our ancient occult sciences from the commercial persons and from the catagory of superstition , we will have to ponder in the similer type of R & D oriented and practicable works as well. Kaka Neeli + Emrald have been analysed considering above said parameters and if any body is curious to learn more about the subject, may kindly discuss accordingly. Good luck, Gopal Raju Scientist and Occultist @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Dear members & Shree Mrithyunjay Tripati ji, > > Thank you for your further insights and you are right particularly on the aspect of Mercury being being in the star of Moon. > > However, I beg to differ on the point of Nipuna yoga being effective only in the mercurian signs & leo. > > I don't remember any classical works making an exception on the effect of Sun+ Mercury except as per Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam where they have differentiated the effect NOT based on signs BUT on bhava in which they are placed. (kindly point out if any one has seen it so. It is not easy to search all the books in a short time). > > I am just quoting the relevant verses from a few authentic works. > maanasaagarii. > vidvaanaaryo raajamaanyaH > sevaashiilaH priyaMvadaH > yashasviica sthiradravyo > budhasuurya samaagame.. > yavana jataka, > suuryendau vaakyaguNairupetaM > vidvaaMsamaaryam balarupadR^iaptaM > yashorthinaM sevakamasthiraartham > khitiishvaraaNaaM dayitaM sataaM cha.. > saraavalii.. > sevaakR^itasthiradhano raviGYeyoH priyavachaa yashorthaH syaat > aaryaH kshitipatidayitaH sataaM cha balaruupavittavidyaavaan.. > jaatakaabharaNaM. > priyavachaH sachivo bahusevayaarjitadhanashcha kalaakushalo bhavet > shrutapaTurhi naro naLiniipatau kumudiniipatisuunusamanvite.. > varaaha horaa. > budhena nipuNam dhiikiirtisaukhyaanvitaM. > > I am sure the learned members shall understand the meaning of these verses. > > Mercury offcourse aquires the qualities of the sign & planets it is associated with. So since it is in the sign of naturaly benefic Venus and aspected by Jupiter from the sign of Mercury, The effect of Nipuna Yoga cannot be discounted. > > Even if we consider the Sage Bhrigu or Hora Ratnam, where the effect of Sun+Mercury is not good in the 8th , it is very good in 9th (from chandra lagna) and more so since Jupiter also is aspecting it. > > Hence, I feel we need not consider any exception to the rule, particularly in this case. Mercury association with other planets or vargas may add or twist the nature of yoga like in gemini, the yoga (Nipunatha) might be felt in arts while in virgo it might be felt more on education, in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. > > It is also interesting to note while we both were against wearing green emerald, the native himself has revealed that he has been wearing it and did not do much good. So, we have to assume that it proves the point. > > Just a few thoughts on the subject of Nipuna Yoga. > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ________________________________ > astrologer_mrutyunjay <astrologer_mrutyunjay > > Monday, September 7, 2009 3:24:43 PM > Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > Dear friends, > > Nice suggestions by Shree Suresh Babu Jee, > > Nipuna Yoga takes place only in the signs ruled by mercury,sun > > i.e. gemini, virgo and leo. > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > From my humble experiences > > (i) weakness or affliction of 3rd and 11th lord from Arudha Lagna > > (ii) occupation of weak or afflicted planets in 3rd and 11th from Arudha Lagna > > (iii) Rasi Drishti of Badhaka Planet > > (iv) rasi drishti upon 12th house from Arudha Lagna > > are the condition for sudden physical or financial happenings > > leading to physical or financial losses. > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > Moreover as per stellar dispositor concepts- > > mercury in the constellation of moon placed in the 12th house > > is not good financially > > to be strengthened for obvious reasons. > > With regards and best wishes, > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > I fully agree with Shree Mrinthyujay Tripati ji about Emerald may not be beneficial to you, but for a different reason, which is natural since both of us use different analytical methods. > > > > Mercury is 12th lord & 9th lord in the 8th from lagna and chandra lagna lord and 10th lord in the 9th from chandra lagna. So Mercury is mostly beneficial except for the 12th house lordship which is also important. However the point is it is vargottama & retrograde, hence already very powerfull. It being combust is not considered very important as per classics since Mercury never leaves the company of Sun and is mostly combust - which also confer Nipuna Yoga. > > > > However, the chart has other afflictions Such as > > > > Venus + Rahu in the 6th & Jupiter + Moon +Ketu in the 12th. Jupiter is having Neecha Navamsa also. So a planet which is along with Moon giving Kesari Yoga is weak and also afflicted with Ketu. > > > > Further Mars, 2nd house lord is also retrograde that too in its own house. > > > > I wonder how wearing a stone shall help rectify the effects of retrograde planet. > > > > Only a few case with prooven history can conform the validity of such logics. > > > > Till then it would be better if the native resorts to religious remedies, particularly since Jupiter & venus are in Sama Sapthama with venus exalted & varothama. Mahala Laxmi should be propitiated to financial stabilty. Rahu / Ketu pooja should also be done along with poojas to Lord Mahadev. > > > > As Shree Mrithyunja Tripati Ji as implied, it is upto to you to experiment with costly stones or spend a few minutes of your time to propetiate the deities. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " astrologer_ mrutyunjay " <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > Testing astrology and gemstone is good > > > > > > if you can financially afford it. > > > > > > > > > But I do not think it is wise to afford > > > > > > at the cost of one's > > > > > > loss of health/ wealth. > > > > > > Wearing Emerlad for the native whose birth details given below > > > > > > may lead to serious health problem/ accident/ litigations etc. > > > > > > Astrological reasons : > > > > > > (1) mercury is 11th lord from Arudha Lagna resperesting sudden happenings > > > > > > (2)in the constellation of moon the planet ruling over 12th house from arudha lagna. > > > > > > (3)moon placed in 12th house from Lagna > > > > > > (4) mercury combust in 8th house in rasi being the 12th lord > > > > > > (5)mercury vargottma and in marana karaka sthana in the navamsa chart (relationships/ partnerships/ communications) > > > > > > (6)Sun and mercury are closely conjunct in the 8th house. Mercury being friend of Sun is giving the result of Sun. Note the navamsa chart. Sun owns the 4th navamsa or khara navamsa counted from taurus navamsa occupied by mercury > > > > > > How does wearing of Emerlad is going to free it from sun's influence ? > > > > > > The more you strengthen Mercury....the more negatively and successfully > > > > > > it would act for Sun ! > > > > > > It would be better if the learned members and astrologer go with a few lines of basic analysis while suggesting or accepting gemstones for betterment of future. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > May 27, 1969 > > > Time: 16:05:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > > > Lagna 3 Li 32' 00.92 " Chit 4 Li Sc > > > Sun - PK 12 Ta 32' 54.51 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar > > > Moon - MK 17 Vi 19' 35.25 " Hast 3 Vi Ge > > > Mars ® - BK 18 Sc 01' 28.23 " Jye 1 Sc Sg > > > Mercury ® - PiK 15 Ta 29' 34.04 " Rohi 2 Ta Ta > > > Jupiter - DK 2 Vi 42' 47.15 " UPha 2 Vi Cp > > > Venus - AK 28 Pi 52' 27.09 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > Saturn - GK 9 Ar 54' 34.47 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge > > > Rahu - AmK 3 Pi 25' 45.69 " UBha 1 Pi Le > > > Ketu 3 Vi 25' 45.69 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > > Maandi 24 Le 54' 27.20 " PPha 4 Le Sc > > > Gulika 13 Le 41' 22.41 " PPha 1 Le Le > > > Bhava Lagna 21 Li 03' 21.74 " Visa 1 Li Ar > > > Hora Lagna 29 Pi 59' 13.84 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > > , " gopalraju12 " <gopalraju12@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Bhai, > > > > Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > Mob. : *********** > > > > > > > > see YELLOW PAGES in the link below > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > > > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > > > > > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > > > > > Regards > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 sri ganeshaya namah dear sunil, no thanks please .. we are all here to help each other. however i just had a query with which you could maybe help me.. across many stotras i find couple of lines before the actual stotra starts that end with :jape viniyoga:... what exactly do these lines mean , where all the rishi,chhand,rishi etc are mentioned? are these lines to be recited every single time before doing the stotra? for example if im reciting the stotra 27 times , every single time need to state the :jape viniyoga: lines? also any specific rituals whilst reading the viniyog line? maybe you could also state the importance. i am from sikh family , so am not aware of many vedic rituals , but trying to pick up myself... humbly, chandan s sabarwal. , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 wrote: > > Respected Suresh Ji, > I will recite the stotra with viniyoga and nyas as given in Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam. In phalshruti of Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam it is written- > ya asvayugmansi cha shukla pakshe, ramotsave sannihite cha bhaktya > pathettathaikottarvarvriddhya, labhet sauvarnamayeem suvrishteem > So on the first day I will recite one path on second day two and following the tithi 15 repeatition on poornima (total 120 repeatitions in 15 days).After that I will recite one path daily. > Best Regards > Sunil > > > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > Dear sunil singh > > > > That is excellent. However, if your are not reciting the stotra according to tantra - nyasa etc, you need not do the repeatation, Just recitation of Laxmi Hridaya & Narayana Hridaya will do. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Suresh Ji, Chandan Ji, Krishnan Ji, > > > Thanks for analysis of my horoscope in detail. I have no words to appreciate the kindness of the learned members of this group. > > > I will start recitation of Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam from this Navratra (19th Sep) after initiation. Ashvin navratra is best time to start this pooja. The rule is first recite Narayan Hridayam then Lakshmi Hridayam then again Narayan Hridayam. This stotra is described in rahasya bhag of Atharvveda. The author of this stotra is Bhargav rishi. > > > I will also worship Rahu/Ketu daily. > > > Once again thanks to learned members Niket Ji, Gopal Raju Ji, Tripathi Ji, Chandan Ji, Suresh Ji for giving valuable input and precious time. > > > Best Regards > > > Sunil > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Krishna Ji, > > > > > > > > //in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen.// > > > > > > > > That is exactly my point. The traits or field of activity / expertice gets modified as per the sign Mercury occupies and other planets it gets associated. However, The core quality of what is meant by " Nipuna " meaning profeciency / skillfull / clever/ sharp / keen / perfect / precise etc could be seen in one field or other. But this yoga need not mean that the skill or profeciency should benefit the native financialy as could be seen from the verses. Finance & Skill are two different aspects. A cobler could be skillfull in the the work he is doing and nipuna yoga can make him stand apart amoung others. But he need become rich. > > > > > > > > Interestingly the views of Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam (Which I suspect is borrowed from Brighu itself) is also worth considering as it places a little more importance to the placement of Sun rather than the mercury itself. > > > > > > > > If any one is further interested I shall quote those also. > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 8, 2009 8:08:21 AM > > > > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Suresh Ji,Mrityunjaya Ji, > > > > let me meddle with all your permission to convey that:in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen. > > > > mercury having no behaviour and working like sjadow palnets(?) is not palpable.But proximity to sun is a common feature which causes nipuna/budha aditya like situations,how ever right it may be > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > > > > > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > Monday, September 7, 2009, 3:15 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members & Shree Mrithyunjay Tripati ji, > > > > > > > > Thank you for your further insights and you are right particularly on the aspect of Mercury being being in the star of Moon. > > > > > > > > However, I beg to differ on the point of Nipuna yoga being effective only in the mercurian signs & leo. > > > > > > > > I don't remember any classical works making an exception on the effect of Sun+ Mercury except as per Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam where they have differentiated the effect NOT based on signs BUT on bhava in which they are placed. (kindly point out if any one has seen it so. It is not easy to search all the books in a short time). > > > > > > > > I am just quoting the relevant verses from a few authentic works. > > > > maanasaagarii. > > > > vidvaanaaryo raajamaanyaH > > > > sevaashiilaH priyaMvadaH > > > > yashasviica sthiradravyo > > > > budhasuurya samaagame.. > > > > yavana jataka, > > > > suuryendau vaakyaguNairupetaM > > > > vidvaaMsamaaryam balarupadR^iaptaM > > > > yashorthinaM sevakamasthiraartha m > > > > khitiishvaraaNaaM dayitaM sataaM cha.. > > > > saraavalii.. > > > > sevaakR^itasthiradh ano raviGYeyoH priyavachaa yashorthaH syaat > > > > aaryaH kshitipatidayitaH sataaM cha balaruupavittavidya avaan.. > > > > jaatakaabharaNaM. > > > > priyavachaH sachivo bahusevayaarjitadha nashcha kalaakushalo bhavet > > > > shrutapaTurhi naro naLiniipatau kumudiniipatisuunus amanvite. . > > > > varaaha horaa. > > > > budhena nipuNam dhiikiirtisaukhyaan vitaM. > > > > > > > > I am sure the learned members shall understand the meaning of these verses. > > > > > > > > Mercury offcourse aquires the qualities of the sign & planets it is associated with. So since it is in the sign of naturaly benefic Venus and aspected by Jupiter from the sign of Mercury, The effect of Nipuna Yoga cannot be discounted. > > > > > > > > Even if we consider the Sage Bhrigu or Hora Ratnam, where the effect of Sun+Mercury is not good in the 8th , it is very good in 9th (from chandra lagna) and more so since Jupiter also is aspecting it. > > > > > > > > Hence, I feel we need not consider any exception to the rule, particularly in this case. Mercury association with other planets or vargas may add or twist the nature of yoga like in gemini, the yoga (Nipunatha) might be felt in arts while in virgo it might be felt more on education, in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. > > > > > > > > It is also interesting to note while we both were against wearing green emerald, the native himself has revealed that he has been wearing it and did not do much good. So, we have to assume that it proves the point. > > > > > > > > Just a few thoughts on the subject of Nipuna Yoga. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > astrologer_mrutyunj ay <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay > > > > > > > > > Monday, September 7, 2009 3:24:43 PM > > > > Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > Nice suggestions by Shree Suresh Babu Jee, > > > > > > > > Nipuna Yoga takes place only in the signs ruled by mercury,sun > > > > > > > > i.e. gemini, virgo and leo. > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > From my humble experiences > > > > > > > > (i) weakness or affliction of 3rd and 11th lord from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > > (ii) occupation of weak or afflicted planets in 3rd and 11th from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > > (iii) Rasi Drishti of Badhaka Planet > > > > > > > > (iv) rasi drishti upon 12th house from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > > are the condition for sudden physical or financial happenings > > > > > > > > leading to physical or financial losses. > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > > > Moreover as per stellar dispositor concepts- > > > > > > > > mercury in the constellation of moon placed in the 12th house > > > > > > > > is not good financially > > > > > > > > to be strengthened for obvious reasons. > > > > > > > > With regards and best wishes, > > > > > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > > > I fully agree with Shree Mrinthyujay Tripati ji about Emerald may not be beneficial to you, but for a different reason, which is natural since both of us use different analytical methods. > > > > > > > > > > Mercury is 12th lord & 9th lord in the 8th from lagna and chandra lagna lord and 10th lord in the 9th from chandra lagna. So Mercury is mostly beneficial except for the 12th house lordship which is also important. However the point is it is vargottama & retrograde, hence already very powerfull. It being combust is not considered very important as per classics since Mercury never leaves the company of Sun and is mostly combust - which also confer Nipuna Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > However, the chart has other afflictions Such as > > > > > > > > > > Venus + Rahu in the 6th & Jupiter + Moon +Ketu in the 12th. Jupiter is having Neecha Navamsa also. So a planet which is along with Moon giving Kesari Yoga is weak and also afflicted with Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > Further Mars, 2nd house lord is also retrograde that too in its own house. > > > > > > > > > > I wonder how wearing a stone shall help rectify the effects of retrograde planet. > > > > > > > > > > Only a few case with prooven history can conform the validity of such logics. > > > > > > > > > > Till then it would be better if the native resorts to religious remedies, particularly since Jupiter & venus are in Sama Sapthama with venus exalted & varothama. Mahala Laxmi should be propitiated to financial stabilty. Rahu / Ketu pooja should also be done along with poojas to Lord Mahadev. > > > > > > > > > > As Shree Mrithyunja Tripati Ji as implied, it is upto to you to experiment with costly stones or spend a few minutes of your time to propetiate the deities. > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " astrologer_ mrutyunjay " <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Testing astrology and gemstone is good > > > > > > > > > > > > if you can financially afford it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I do not think it is wise to afford > > > > > > > > > > > > at the cost of one's > > > > > > > > > > > > loss of health/ wealth. > > > > > > > > > > > > Wearing Emerlad for the native whose birth details given below > > > > > > > > > > > > may lead to serious health problem/ accident/ litigations etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrological reasons : > > > > > > > > > > > > (1) mercury is 11th lord from Arudha Lagna resperesting sudden happenings > > > > > > > > > > > > (2)in the constellation of moon the planet ruling over 12th house from arudha lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > (3)moon placed in 12th house from Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > (4) mercury combust in 8th house in rasi being the 12th lord > > > > > > > > > > > > (5)mercury vargottma and in marana karaka sthana in the navamsa chart (relationships/ partnerships/ communications) > > > > > > > > > > > > (6)Sun and mercury are closely conjunct in the 8th house. Mercury being friend of Sun is giving the result of Sun. Note the navamsa chart. Sun owns the 4th navamsa or khara navamsa counted from taurus navamsa occupied by mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > How does wearing of Emerlad is going to free it from sun's influence ? > > > > > > > > > > > > The more you strengthen Mercury....the more negatively and successfully > > > > > > > > > > > > it would act for Sun ! > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be better if the learned members and astrologer go with a few lines of basic analysis while suggesting or accepting gemstones for betterment of future. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > May 27, 1969 > > > > > > Time: 16:05:00 > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > > > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 3 Li 32' 00.92 " Chit 4 Li Sc > > > > > > Sun - PK 12 Ta 32' 54.51 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar > > > > > > Moon - MK 17 Vi 19' 35.25 " Hast 3 Vi Ge > > > > > > Mars ® - BK 18 Sc 01' 28.23 " Jye 1 Sc Sg > > > > > > Mercury ® - PiK 15 Ta 29' 34.04 " Rohi 2 Ta Ta > > > > > > Jupiter - DK 2 Vi 42' 47.15 " UPha 2 Vi Cp > > > > > > Venus - AK 28 Pi 52' 27.09 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > > Saturn - GK 9 Ar 54' 34.47 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge > > > > > > Rahu - AmK 3 Pi 25' 45.69 " UBha 1 Pi Le > > > > > > Ketu 3 Vi 25' 45.69 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > > > > > Maandi 24 Le 54' 27.20 " PPha 4 Le Sc > > > > > > Gulika 13 Le 41' 22.41 " PPha 1 Le Le > > > > > > Bhava Lagna 21 Li 03' 21.74 " Visa 1 Li Ar > > > > > > Hora Lagna 29 Pi 59' 13.84 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gopalraju12 " <gopalraju12@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Bhai, > > > > > > > Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. > > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > > > > Mob. : *********** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see YELLOW PAGES in the link below > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > > > > > > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > > > > > > > > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Sir, Namskarams.Thars for enlihtening the topic.Nipuna/Skill is a personal acquisition and that makes the individual different from others.Sun as atmakarak,mercury as buddhi if join together with proper stellar composition including rahu nakshtra like arudra(swati i have a doubt) but satiabhisha should distinguish the native with this yoga Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote: Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone Monday, September 7, 2009, 11:58 PM Dear Krishna Ji, //in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen.// That is exactly my point. The traits or field of activity / expertice gets modified as per the sign Mercury occupies and other planets it gets associated. However, The core quality of what is meant by " Nipuna " meaning profeciency / skillfull / clever/ sharp / keen / perfect / precise etc could be seen in one field or other. But this yoga need not mean that the skill or profeciency should benefit the native financialy as could be seen from the verses. Finance & Skill are two different aspects. A cobler could be skillfull in the the work he is doing and nipuna yoga can make him stand apart amoung others. But he need become rich. Interestingly the views of Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam (Which I suspect is borrowed from Brighu itself) is also worth considering as it places a little more importance to the placement of Sun rather than the mercury itself. If any one is further interested I shall quote those also. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. ____________ _________ _________ __ Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > Tuesday, September 8, 2009 8:08:21 AM Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone Dear Shri Suresh Ji,Mrityunjaya Ji, let me meddle with all your permission to convey that:in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen. mercury having no behaviour and working like sjadow palnets(?) is not palpable.But proximity to sun is a common feature which causes nipuna/budha aditya like situations,how ever right it may be Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone Monday, September 7, 2009, 3:15 PM Dear members & Shree Mrithyunjay Tripati ji, Thank you for your further insights and you are right particularly on the aspect of Mercury being being in the star of Moon. However, I beg to differ on the point of Nipuna yoga being effective only in the mercurian signs & leo. I don't remember any classical works making an exception on the effect of Sun+ Mercury except as per Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam where they have differentiated the effect NOT based on signs BUT on bhava in which they are placed. (kindly point out if any one has seen it so. It is not easy to search all the books in a short time). I am just quoting the relevant verses from a few authentic works. maanasaagarii. vidvaanaaryo raajamaanyaH sevaashiilaH priyaMvadaH yashasviica sthiradravyo budhasuurya samaagame.. yavana jataka, suuryendau vaakyaguNairupetaM vidvaaMsamaaryam balarupadR^iaptaM yashorthinaM sevakamasthiraartha m khitiishvaraaNaaM dayitaM sataaM cha.. saraavalii.. sevaakR^itasthiradh ano raviGYeyoH priyavachaa yashorthaH syaat aaryaH kshitipatidayitaH sataaM cha balaruupavittavidya avaan.. jaatakaabharaNaM. priyavachaH sachivo bahusevayaarjitadha nashcha kalaakushalo bhavet shrutapaTurhi naro naLiniipatau kumudiniipatisuunus amanvite. . varaaha horaa. budhena nipuNam dhiikiirtisaukhyaan vitaM. I am sure the learned members shall understand the meaning of these verses. Mercury offcourse aquires the qualities of the sign & planets it is associated with. So since it is in the sign of naturaly benefic Venus and aspected by Jupiter from the sign of Mercury, The effect of Nipuna Yoga cannot be discounted. Even if we consider the Sage Bhrigu or Hora Ratnam, where the effect of Sun+Mercury is not good in the 8th , it is very good in 9th (from chandra lagna) and more so since Jupiter also is aspecting it. Hence, I feel we need not consider any exception to the rule, particularly in this case. Mercury association with other planets or vargas may add or twist the nature of yoga like in gemini, the yoga (Nipunatha) might be felt in arts while in virgo it might be felt more on education, in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. It is also interesting to note while we both were against wearing green emerald, the native himself has revealed that he has been wearing it and did not do much good. So, we have to assume that it proves the point. Just a few thoughts on the subject of Nipuna Yoga. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ astrologer_mrutyunj ay <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay > Monday, September 7, 2009 3:24:43 PM Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone Dear friends, Nice suggestions by Shree Suresh Babu Jee, Nipuna Yoga takes place only in the signs ruled by mercury,sun i.e. gemini, virgo and leo. ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - From my humble experiences (i) weakness or affliction of 3rd and 11th lord from Arudha Lagna (ii) occupation of weak or afflicted planets in 3rd and 11th from Arudha Lagna (iii) Rasi Drishti of Badhaka Planet (iv) rasi drishti upon 12th house from Arudha Lagna are the condition for sudden physical or financial happenings leading to physical or financial losses. ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - Moreover as per stellar dispositor concepts- mercury in the constellation of moon placed in the 12th house is not good financially to be strengthened for obvious reasons. With regards and best wishes, Mrutyunjay Tripathy , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Sunil, > > I fully agree with Shree Mrinthyujay Tripati ji about Emerald may not be beneficial to you, but for a different reason, which is natural since both of us use different analytical methods. > > Mercury is 12th lord & 9th lord in the 8th from lagna and chandra lagna lord and 10th lord in the 9th from chandra lagna. So Mercury is mostly beneficial except for the 12th house lordship which is also important. However the point is it is vargottama & retrograde, hence already very powerfull. It being combust is not considered very important as per classics since Mercury never leaves the company of Sun and is mostly combust - which also confer Nipuna Yoga. > > However, the chart has other afflictions Such as > > Venus + Rahu in the 6th & Jupiter + Moon +Ketu in the 12th. Jupiter is having Neecha Navamsa also. So a planet which is along with Moon giving Kesari Yoga is weak and also afflicted with Ketu. > > Further Mars, 2nd house lord is also retrograde that too in its own house. > > I wonder how wearing a stone shall help rectify the effects of retrograde planet. > > Only a few case with prooven history can conform the validity of such logics. > > Till then it would be better if the native resorts to religious remedies, particularly since Jupiter & venus are in Sama Sapthama with venus exalted & varothama. Mahala Laxmi should be propitiated to financial stabilty. Rahu / Ketu pooja should also be done along with poojas to Lord Mahadev. > > As Shree Mrithyunja Tripati Ji as implied, it is upto to you to experiment with costly stones or spend a few minutes of your time to propetiate the deities. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > , " astrologer_ mrutyunjay " <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ > wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > Testing astrology and gemstone is good > > > > if you can financially afford it. > > > > > > But I do not think it is wise to afford > > > > at the cost of one's > > > > loss of health/ wealth. > > > > Wearing Emerlad for the native whose birth details given below > > > > may lead to serious health problem/ accident/ litigations etc. > > > > Astrological reasons : > > > > (1) mercury is 11th lord from Arudha Lagna resperesting sudden happenings > > > > (2)in the constellation of moon the planet ruling over 12th house from arudha lagna. > > > > (3)moon placed in 12th house from Lagna > > > > (4) mercury combust in 8th house in rasi being the 12th lord > > > > (5)mercury vargottma and in marana karaka sthana in the navamsa chart (relationships/ partnerships/ communications) > > > > (6)Sun and mercury are closely conjunct in the 8th house. Mercury being friend of Sun is giving the result of Sun. Note the navamsa chart. Sun owns the 4th navamsa or khara navamsa counted from taurus navamsa occupied by mercury > > > > How does wearing of Emerlad is going to free it from sun's influence ? > > > > The more you strengthen Mercury....the more negatively and successfully > > > > it would act for Sun ! > > > > It would be better if the learned members and astrologer go with a few lines of basic analysis while suggesting or accepting gemstones for betterment of future. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > May 27, 1969 > > Time: 16:05:00 > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > New Delhi, India > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > Lagna 3 Li 32' 00.92 " Chit 4 Li Sc > > Sun - PK 12 Ta 32' 54.51 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar > > Moon - MK 17 Vi 19' 35.25 " Hast 3 Vi Ge > > Mars ® - BK 18 Sc 01' 28.23 " Jye 1 Sc Sg > > Mercury ® - PiK 15 Ta 29' 34.04 " Rohi 2 Ta Ta > > Jupiter - DK 2 Vi 42' 47.15 " UPha 2 Vi Cp > > Venus - AK 28 Pi 52' 27.09 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > Saturn - GK 9 Ar 54' 34.47 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge > > Rahu - AmK 3 Pi 25' 45.69 " UBha 1 Pi Le > > Ketu 3 Vi 25' 45.69 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > Maandi 24 Le 54' 27.20 " PPha 4 Le Sc > > Gulika 13 Le 41' 22.41 " PPha 1 Le Le > > Bhava Lagna 21 Li 03' 21.74 " Visa 1 Li Ar > > Hora Lagna 29 Pi 59' 13.84 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > , " gopalraju12 " <gopalraju12@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sunil Bhai, > > > Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. > > > Gopal Raju > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > Mob. : *********** > > > > > > see YELLOW PAGES in the link below > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 @> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > > > > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > > > > Regards > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Respected Chandan Ji, Let me explain the meaning and importance of viniyoga- The Viniyoga of each mantra has following components – 1. The first component is Rishi. In our Vedas it is said that " Rishayo mantra drashtarah " means they have experienced and discovered the mantras but they have not created the mantras. Since they have compiled and mastered completely to that particular mantra, so recalling the name of the rishi shows revered devotion of devotee. It is believed that worship of that rishi before the japa of mantra can give early results. 2. Second component is chhanda. Different mantras can be practiced with different combination of swaras and gati like mansika, vachika, upanshu…So chhandas are rhythmic composition of chanting the mantras. 3. Third is devata – The cosmic power to whom we are worshipping to get the desired result. 4. Fourth- Beej mantra is the tatva ( gist )of the mantra. The japa of beej mantra generates energy that is essential for activation the power of main mantra. 5. Fifth is keelakam. It is considered as key to unlock the secret of the mantra. Example- Let us see the example of Viniyoga of Bagalamukhi Kavach- Om Asya Shri Bagalamukhi Kavachasya Narad Rishih Anushtup Chhandah Bagalamukhi Devata Lam Beejam Aim Keelakam Purusharth Chatushtaye Jape Viniyogah Here Rishi is Narad, Chhand-Anushtup, Devata-Bagalamukhi, Beeja- Lam, Keelak- Aim, Sixrh component is prayojan for which we are doing the recitation of Kavach. That is pueusharth chatushtay- Dharm, Arth, Kam , Moksha. Since the Rishis are authorites of the mantra and here Rishi is Narad. So before reciting Bagalamukhi Kavach worship of Narad is advised. Also in some mantras initiation is very important part. Since we can not meet Rishis in person. But we can seek the guidance of the person who has spent his major part of life in chanting that mantra. So initiation can bring early result in fructification of the mantra. Your Nexr question is- >> for example if im reciting the stotra 27 times , every single time need to state the :jape viniyoga: lines? **As my family pandit taught and obvious from the meaning you need to do Viniyoga only once.Do the Viniyoga then recite the stotra and on second repeatition only recite the stotra.Every time you have to do the Viniyoga but only once not for repeatitions. Best Regards Sunil - In , " chandan486 " <wavelogix+jyotishremedies wrote: > > sri ganeshaya namah > dear sunil, > no thanks please .. we are all here to help each other. however i just had a query with which you could maybe help me.. > > across many stotras i find couple of lines before the actual stotra starts that end with :jape viniyoga:... > > what exactly do these lines mean , where all the rishi,chhand,rishi etc are mentioned? are these lines to be recited every single time before doing the stotra? > > for example if im reciting the stotra 27 times , every single time need to state the :jape viniyoga: lines? > > also any specific rituals whilst reading the viniyog line? maybe you could also state the importance. > > i am from sikh family , so am not aware of many vedic rituals , but trying to pick up myself... > > > humbly, > chandan s sabarwal. > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > Respected Suresh Ji, > > I will recite the stotra with viniyoga and nyas as given in Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam. In phalshruti of Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam it is written- > > ya asvayugmansi cha shukla pakshe, ramotsave sannihite cha bhaktya > > pathettathaikottarvarvriddhya, labhet sauvarnamayeem suvrishteem > > So on the first day I will recite one path on second day two and following the tithi 15 repeatition on poornima (total 120 repeatitions in 15 days).After that I will recite one path daily. > > Best Regards > > Sunil > > > > > > > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear sunil singh > > > > > > That is excellent. However, if your are not reciting the stotra according to tantra - nyasa etc, you need not do the repeatation, Just recitation of Laxmi Hridaya & Narayana Hridaya will do. > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Suresh Ji, Chandan Ji, Krishnan Ji, > > > > Thanks for analysis of my horoscope in detail. I have no words to appreciate the kindness of the learned members of this group. > > > > I will start recitation of Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam from this Navratra (19th Sep) after initiation. Ashvin navratra is best time to start this pooja. The rule is first recite Narayan Hridayam then Lakshmi Hridayam then again Narayan Hridayam. This stotra is described in rahasya bhag of Atharvveda. The author of this stotra is Bhargav rishi. > > > > I will also worship Rahu/Ketu daily. > > > > Once again thanks to learned members Niket Ji, Gopal Raju Ji, Tripathi Ji, Chandan Ji, Suresh Ji for giving valuable input and precious time. > > > > Best Regards > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krishna Ji, > > > > > > > > > > //in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen.// > > > > > > > > > > That is exactly my point. The traits or field of activity / expertice gets modified as per the sign Mercury occupies and other planets it gets associated. However, The core quality of what is meant by " Nipuna " meaning profeciency / skillfull / clever/ sharp / keen / perfect / precise etc could be seen in one field or other. But this yoga need not mean that the skill or profeciency should benefit the native financialy as could be seen from the verses. Finance & Skill are two different aspects. A cobler could be skillfull in the the work he is doing and nipuna yoga can make him stand apart amoung others. But he need become rich. > > > > > > > > > > Interestingly the views of Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam (Which I suspect is borrowed from Brighu itself) is also worth considering as it places a little more importance to the placement of Sun rather than the mercury itself. > > > > > > > > > > If any one is further interested I shall quote those also. > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 8, 2009 8:08:21 AM > > > > > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Suresh Ji,Mrityunjaya Ji, > > > > > let me meddle with all your permission to convey that:in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen. > > > > > mercury having no behaviour and working like sjadow palnets(?) is not palpable.But proximity to sun is a common feature which causes nipuna/budha aditya like situations,how ever right it may be > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > > > > > > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > > > Monday, September 7, 2009, 3:15 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members & Shree Mrithyunjay Tripati ji, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your further insights and you are right particularly on the aspect of Mercury being being in the star of Moon. > > > > > > > > > > However, I beg to differ on the point of Nipuna yoga being effective only in the mercurian signs & leo. > > > > > > > > > > I don't remember any classical works making an exception on the effect of Sun+ Mercury except as per Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam where they have differentiated the effect NOT based on signs BUT on bhava in which they are placed. (kindly point out if any one has seen it so. It is not easy to search all the books in a short time). > > > > > > > > > > I am just quoting the relevant verses from a few authentic works. > > > > > maanasaagarii. > > > > > vidvaanaaryo raajamaanyaH > > > > > sevaashiilaH priyaMvadaH > > > > > yashasviica sthiradravyo > > > > > budhasuurya samaagame.. > > > > > yavana jataka, > > > > > suuryendau vaakyaguNairupetaM > > > > > vidvaaMsamaaryam balarupadR^iaptaM > > > > > yashorthinaM sevakamasthiraartha m > > > > > khitiishvaraaNaaM dayitaM sataaM cha.. > > > > > saraavalii.. > > > > > sevaakR^itasthiradh ano raviGYeyoH priyavachaa yashorthaH syaat > > > > > aaryaH kshitipatidayitaH sataaM cha balaruupavittavidya avaan.. > > > > > jaatakaabharaNaM. > > > > > priyavachaH sachivo bahusevayaarjitadha nashcha kalaakushalo bhavet > > > > > shrutapaTurhi naro naLiniipatau kumudiniipatisuunus amanvite. . > > > > > varaaha horaa. > > > > > budhena nipuNam dhiikiirtisaukhyaan vitaM. > > > > > > > > > > I am sure the learned members shall understand the meaning of these verses. > > > > > > > > > > Mercury offcourse aquires the qualities of the sign & planets it is associated with. So since it is in the sign of naturaly benefic Venus and aspected by Jupiter from the sign of Mercury, The effect of Nipuna Yoga cannot be discounted. > > > > > > > > > > Even if we consider the Sage Bhrigu or Hora Ratnam, where the effect of Sun+Mercury is not good in the 8th , it is very good in 9th (from chandra lagna) and more so since Jupiter also is aspecting it. > > > > > > > > > > Hence, I feel we need not consider any exception to the rule, particularly in this case. Mercury association with other planets or vargas may add or twist the nature of yoga like in gemini, the yoga (Nipunatha) might be felt in arts while in virgo it might be felt more on education, in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. > > > > > > > > > > It is also interesting to note while we both were against wearing green emerald, the native himself has revealed that he has been wearing it and did not do much good. So, we have to assume that it proves the point. > > > > > > > > > > Just a few thoughts on the subject of Nipuna Yoga. > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > astrologer_mrutyunj ay <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, September 7, 2009 3:24:43 PM > > > > > Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > Nice suggestions by Shree Suresh Babu Jee, > > > > > > > > > > Nipuna Yoga takes place only in the signs ruled by mercury,sun > > > > > > > > > > i.e. gemini, virgo and leo. > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > From my humble experiences > > > > > > > > > > (i) weakness or affliction of 3rd and 11th lord from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > > > > (ii) occupation of weak or afflicted planets in 3rd and 11th from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > > > > (iii) Rasi Drishti of Badhaka Planet > > > > > > > > > > (iv) rasi drishti upon 12th house from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > > > > are the condition for sudden physical or financial happenings > > > > > > > > > > leading to physical or financial losses. > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > > > > > Moreover as per stellar dispositor concepts- > > > > > > > > > > mercury in the constellation of moon placed in the 12th house > > > > > > > > > > is not good financially > > > > > > > > > > to be strengthened for obvious reasons. > > > > > > > > > > With regards and best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > > > > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > > > > > I fully agree with Shree Mrinthyujay Tripati ji about Emerald may not be beneficial to you, but for a different reason, which is natural since both of us use different analytical methods. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury is 12th lord & 9th lord in the 8th from lagna and chandra lagna lord and 10th lord in the 9th from chandra lagna. So Mercury is mostly beneficial except for the 12th house lordship which is also important. However the point is it is vargottama & retrograde, hence already very powerfull. It being combust is not considered very important as per classics since Mercury never leaves the company of Sun and is mostly combust - which also confer Nipuna Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, the chart has other afflictions Such as > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus + Rahu in the 6th & Jupiter + Moon +Ketu in the 12th. Jupiter is having Neecha Navamsa also. So a planet which is along with Moon giving Kesari Yoga is weak and also afflicted with Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > Further Mars, 2nd house lord is also retrograde that too in its own house. > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder how wearing a stone shall help rectify the effects of retrograde planet. > > > > > > > > > > > > Only a few case with prooven history can conform the validity of such logics. > > > > > > > > > > > > Till then it would be better if the native resorts to religious remedies, particularly since Jupiter & venus are in Sama Sapthama with venus exalted & varothama. Mahala Laxmi should be propitiated to financial stabilty. Rahu / Ketu pooja should also be done along with poojas to Lord Mahadev. > > > > > > > > > > > > As Shree Mrithyunja Tripati Ji as implied, it is upto to you to experiment with costly stones or spend a few minutes of your time to propetiate the deities. > > > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " astrologer_ mrutyunjay " <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Testing astrology and gemstone is good > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you can financially afford it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I do not think it is wise to afford > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at the cost of one's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > loss of health/ wealth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wearing Emerlad for the native whose birth details given below > > > > > > > > > > > > > > may lead to serious health problem/ accident/ litigations etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrological reasons : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (1) mercury is 11th lord from Arudha Lagna resperesting sudden happenings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (2)in the constellation of moon the planet ruling over 12th house from arudha lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (3)moon placed in 12th house from Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (4) mercury combust in 8th house in rasi being the 12th lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (5)mercury vargottma and in marana karaka sthana in the navamsa chart (relationships/ partnerships/ communications) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (6)Sun and mercury are closely conjunct in the 8th house. Mercury being friend of Sun is giving the result of Sun. Note the navamsa chart. Sun owns the 4th navamsa or khara navamsa counted from taurus navamsa occupied by mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does wearing of Emerlad is going to free it from sun's influence ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The more you strengthen Mercury....the more negatively and successfully > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it would act for Sun ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be better if the learned members and astrologer go with a few lines of basic analysis while suggesting or accepting gemstones for betterment of future. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May 27, 1969 > > > > > > > Time: 16:05:00 > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > > > > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 3 Li 32' 00.92 " Chit 4 Li Sc > > > > > > > Sun - PK 12 Ta 32' 54.51 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar > > > > > > > Moon - MK 17 Vi 19' 35.25 " Hast 3 Vi Ge > > > > > > > Mars ® - BK 18 Sc 01' 28.23 " Jye 1 Sc Sg > > > > > > > Mercury ® - PiK 15 Ta 29' 34.04 " Rohi 2 Ta Ta > > > > > > > Jupiter - DK 2 Vi 42' 47.15 " UPha 2 Vi Cp > > > > > > > Venus - AK 28 Pi 52' 27.09 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > > > Saturn - GK 9 Ar 54' 34.47 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge > > > > > > > Rahu - AmK 3 Pi 25' 45.69 " UBha 1 Pi Le > > > > > > > Ketu 3 Vi 25' 45.69 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > > > > > > Maandi 24 Le 54' 27.20 " PPha 4 Le Sc > > > > > > > Gulika 13 Le 41' 22.41 " PPha 1 Le Le > > > > > > > Bhava Lagna 21 Li 03' 21.74 " Visa 1 Li Ar > > > > > > > Hora Lagna 29 Pi 59' 13.84 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gopalraju12 " <gopalraju12@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Bhai, > > > > > > > > Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > > > > > Mob. : *********** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see YELLOW PAGES in the link below > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > > > > > > > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > > > > > > > > > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Dear Krishna Ji & others This is an excellent question to understand more about the functioning of various factors involved. The discussion in question is also universal and the following may help to structure our analysis to a certain extent. As we were discussing about the Nipuna Yoga and the modification of traits or in which manner or field? Could be analyzed by the following method. The most relevant of the vargas that modify the outcome are Drekana, Navamsa & trimsamsha apart from the occupying star of the planet. There could arise a doubt in the minds of readers about the Nakshatra lord which is natural since we are mostly used to thinking about Nakshtra of Moon. But this is unfound since there are many verses where ancient texts refer the word " nakshatrapathy " which could be inferred as Moon as well as Nakshtra lord. Coming back to our discussion, about Ardra, Swati & Satabhishek and the modification of Nipuna Yoga, we can see that these are in the sign of Mercury, Venus & Saturn and nakshtra lord Rahu. However out of the three only Adra is Agneya nakshtra with its devatha as Agni(Ishaa/rudra) while that of Swathi is Maruta and satabhishek is Varuna. The nature of Ardra is fierce and intense, passionate and very possessive in nature. The other two considerably mild in nature and very unassuming. Now let us see how the vargas could modify the nature. Nakshatra Drekana Navamsha - Trimshamsa Ardra 1 st = Mercury -Dhanu - Saturn 2 nd = Venus -Makara - Jupiter ----------------Kumbha - Mercury ----------------Meena Swathy 1 st = Venus -Dhanu - Saturn 2 nd = Saturn -Makara - Jupiter -----------------Kumbha - Mercury -----------------Meena Satabhishak 1 st = Saturn -Dhanu - Saturn 2 nd = Mercury -Makara - Jupiter -----------------Kumbha - Mercury -----------------Meena Yavananeshwara has provided more specific effects of planets in various sign. Sun positions is provided according to Hora (2 part- Sun's & Moon's). I am providing only the relevant indicators. Accordingly Sun Gemini---1 st half------Intelligent, talking nicely ---------2 nd half------Scientific knowledge, making love Virgo----1 st half-------Travel ---------2 nd half-------Metallurgy, trading, warfare, competitions Aquarius-1 st half------No specific traits worth mentioning ---------2 nd half------No specific traits worth mentioning Mercury Gemini---1 st half-----Talking nicely, speech, dressing & dress material, construction, art – sculpturing, knowledge in history – srruti, ---------2 nd half------Tarka / competition, efficiency in work Virgo----1 st half------Sculpture, Tarka / competitions, eloquent, con – man , trading ---------2 nd half------Management of multi national sales, Aquarius-1 st half------No specific indications ---------2 nd half------No specific indications Lagna---These are common effects but could added to mercury Gemini--2 nd----Love making, --------3 rd----------- --------4 th----Trading in precious stones, expert in water sport / travel / navigation, Tantra/Mantra Virgo---2 nd----Womeniser, suppressing others, intelligent --------3 rd----Aatithya, pooja, efficient in work, parties, --------4 th------------- Aquarius-2 nd---Gambling, managing intelligent people ---------3 rd---Spy work ---------4 th---Adharmic work Drekana Indications Gemini--1 st----Textile, stiching, fashion design, --------2 nd----Sports, Martial arts, archery, managing children Virgo---1 st----Sales man, Trading, Skillfull in weighing scales. --------2 nd----Efficient in detection / detective work, focused thinking Aquarius-1 st---Skill in the knowledge of ghee, oils, fat etc ---------2 nd---Skill full in metallurgy, iron, copper, making of bullock carts or similar low profile vehicles. Nakshatra : General Ardra : ----------------- Swathy : Trader, Sales, eloquent Satabhishak:Clarity in speech, thoughts, skillfull in destruction of enemies One could also add the indicators of Navamsa signs as well. Dhanu rasi: indicates, sportsmanship, skill in archery, athletics particularly in sprint running , horse riding , warfare etc. Aquarius : may promote endurance sports, mountain climbing, weight lifting, etc. Mithuna : can promote, wrestling, village games like Kabadi etc as well as arts like dance, music etc. The above is produced from the indicators of classical works modified to suit the present and slightly practical implications. I do not claim that the above is 100% tested and proven. But I have not added anything without logic. For example : weight lifting is taken from the Swaroopa of Aquarius sign (a person carrying a bag of vessels -Banda). Hope that it is not out of context. So also drekanan & navamsa, trimsamha considered are only for the 3 nakshtras in discussion. Krishna ji I must thank you for raising this question and carrying on the discussion. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > > Sir, > Namskarams.Thars for enlihtening the topic.Nipuna/Skill is a personal acquisition and that makes the individual different from others.Sun as atmakarak,mercury as buddhi if join together with proper stellar composition including rahu nakshtra like arudra(swati i have a doubt) but satiabhisha should distinguish the native with this yoga > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > > > --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote: > > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > Monday, September 7, 2009, 11:58 PM > > > > > > > Dear Krishna Ji, > > //in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen.// > > That is exactly my point. The traits or field of activity / expertice gets modified as per the sign Mercury occupies and other planets it gets associated. However, The core quality of what is meant by " Nipuna " meaning profeciency / skillfull / clever/ sharp / keen / perfect / precise etc could be seen in one field or other. But this yoga need not mean that the skill or profeciency should benefit the native financialy as could be seen from the verses. Finance & Skill are two different aspects. A cobler could be skillfull in the the work he is doing and nipuna yoga can make him stand apart amoung others. But he need become rich. > > Interestingly the views of Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam (Which I suspect is borrowed from Brighu itself) is also worth considering as it places a little more importance to the placement of Sun rather than the mercury itself. > > If any one is further interested I shall quote those also. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > > > Tuesday, September 8, 2009 8:08:21 AM > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > Dear Shri Suresh Ji,Mrityunjaya Ji, > let me meddle with all your permission to convey that:in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen. > mercury having no behaviour and working like sjadow palnets(?) is not palpable.But proximity to sun is a common feature which causes nipuna/budha aditya like situations,how ever right it may be > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > > > --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > Monday, September 7, 2009, 3:15 PM > > > > Dear members & Shree Mrithyunjay Tripati ji, > > Thank you for your further insights and you are right particularly on the aspect of Mercury being being in the star of Moon. > > However, I beg to differ on the point of Nipuna yoga being effective only in the mercurian signs & leo. > > I don't remember any classical works making an exception on the effect of Sun+ Mercury except as per Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam where they have differentiated the effect NOT based on signs BUT on bhava in which they are placed. (kindly point out if any one has seen it so. It is not easy to search all the books in a short time). > > I am just quoting the relevant verses from a few authentic works. > maanasaagarii. > vidvaanaaryo raajamaanyaH > sevaashiilaH priyaMvadaH > yashasviica sthiradravyo > budhasuurya samaagame.. > yavana jataka, > suuryendau vaakyaguNairupetaM > vidvaaMsamaaryam balarupadR^iaptaM > yashorthinaM sevakamasthiraartha m > khitiishvaraaNaaM dayitaM sataaM cha.. > saraavalii.. > sevaakR^itasthiradh ano raviGYeyoH priyavachaa yashorthaH syaat > aaryaH kshitipatidayitaH sataaM cha balaruupavittavidya avaan.. > jaatakaabharaNaM. > priyavachaH sachivo bahusevayaarjitadha nashcha kalaakushalo bhavet > shrutapaTurhi naro naLiniipatau kumudiniipatisuunus amanvite. . > varaaha horaa. > budhena nipuNam dhiikiirtisaukhyaan vitaM. > > I am sure the learned members shall understand the meaning of these verses. > > Mercury offcourse aquires the qualities of the sign & planets it is associated with. So since it is in the sign of naturaly benefic Venus and aspected by Jupiter from the sign of Mercury, The effect of Nipuna Yoga cannot be discounted. > > Even if we consider the Sage Bhrigu or Hora Ratnam, where the effect of Sun+Mercury is not good in the 8th , it is very good in 9th (from chandra lagna) and more so since Jupiter also is aspecting it. > > Hence, I feel we need not consider any exception to the rule, particularly in this case. Mercury association with other planets or vargas may add or twist the nature of yoga like in gemini, the yoga (Nipunatha) might be felt in arts while in virgo it might be felt more on education, in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. > > It is also interesting to note while we both were against wearing green emerald, the native himself has revealed that he has been wearing it and did not do much good. So, we have to assume that it proves the point. > > Just a few thoughts on the subject of Nipuna Yoga. > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > astrologer_mrutyunj ay <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay > > > Monday, September 7, 2009 3:24:43 PM > Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > Dear friends, > > Nice suggestions by Shree Suresh Babu Jee, > > Nipuna Yoga takes place only in the signs ruled by mercury,sun > > i.e. gemini, virgo and leo. > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > From my humble experiences > > (i) weakness or affliction of 3rd and 11th lord from Arudha Lagna > > (ii) occupation of weak or afflicted planets in 3rd and 11th from Arudha Lagna > > (iii) Rasi Drishti of Badhaka Planet > > (iv) rasi drishti upon 12th house from Arudha Lagna > > are the condition for sudden physical or financial happenings > > leading to physical or financial losses. > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > Moreover as per stellar dispositor concepts- > > mercury in the constellation of moon placed in the 12th house > > is not good financially > > to be strengthened for obvious reasons. > > With regards and best wishes, > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > I fully agree with Shree Mrinthyujay Tripati ji about Emerald may not be beneficial to you, but for a different reason, which is natural since both of us use different analytical methods. > > > > Mercury is 12th lord & 9th lord in the 8th from lagna and chandra lagna lord and 10th lord in the 9th from chandra lagna. So Mercury is mostly beneficial except for the 12th house lordship which is also important. However the point is it is vargottama & retrograde, hence already very powerfull. It being combust is not considered very important as per classics since Mercury never leaves the company of Sun and is mostly combust - which also confer Nipuna Yoga. > > > > However, the chart has other afflictions Such as > > > > Venus + Rahu in the 6th & Jupiter + Moon +Ketu in the 12th. Jupiter is having Neecha Navamsa also. So a planet which is along with Moon giving Kesari Yoga is weak and also afflicted with Ketu. > > > > Further Mars, 2nd house lord is also retrograde that too in its own house. > > > > I wonder how wearing a stone shall help rectify the effects of retrograde planet. > > > > Only a few case with prooven history can conform the validity of such logics. > > > > Till then it would be better if the native resorts to religious remedies, particularly since Jupiter & venus are in Sama Sapthama with venus exalted & varothama. Mahala Laxmi should be propitiated to financial stabilty. Rahu / Ketu pooja should also be done along with poojas to Lord Mahadev. > > > > As Shree Mrithyunja Tripati Ji as implied, it is upto to you to experiment with costly stones or spend a few minutes of your time to propetiate the deities. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " astrologer_ mrutyunjay " <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > Testing astrology and gemstone is good > > > > > > if you can financially afford it. > > > > > > > > > But I do not think it is wise to afford > > > > > > at the cost of one's > > > > > > loss of health/ wealth. > > > > > > Wearing Emerlad for the native whose birth details given below > > > > > > may lead to serious health problem/ accident/ litigations etc. > > > > > > Astrological reasons : > > > > > > (1) mercury is 11th lord from Arudha Lagna resperesting sudden happenings > > > > > > (2)in the constellation of moon the planet ruling over 12th house from arudha lagna. > > > > > > (3)moon placed in 12th house from Lagna > > > > > > (4) mercury combust in 8th house in rasi being the 12th lord > > > > > > (5)mercury vargottma and in marana karaka sthana in the navamsa chart (relationships/ partnerships/ communications) > > > > > > (6)Sun and mercury are closely conjunct in the 8th house. Mercury being friend of Sun is giving the result of Sun. Note the navamsa chart. Sun owns the 4th navamsa or khara navamsa counted from taurus navamsa occupied by mercury > > > > > > How does wearing of Emerlad is going to free it from sun's influence ? > > > > > > The more you strengthen Mercury....the more negatively and successfully > > > > > > it would act for Sun ! > > > > > > It would be better if the learned members and astrologer go with a few lines of basic analysis while suggesting or accepting gemstones for betterment of future. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > May 27, 1969 > > > Time: 16:05:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > > > Lagna 3 Li 32' 00.92 " Chit 4 Li Sc > > > Sun - PK 12 Ta 32' 54.51 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar > > > Moon - MK 17 Vi 19' 35.25 " Hast 3 Vi Ge > > > Mars ® - BK 18 Sc 01' 28.23 " Jye 1 Sc Sg > > > Mercury ® - PiK 15 Ta 29' 34.04 " Rohi 2 Ta Ta > > > Jupiter - DK 2 Vi 42' 47.15 " UPha 2 Vi Cp > > > Venus - AK 28 Pi 52' 27.09 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > Saturn - GK 9 Ar 54' 34.47 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge > > > Rahu - AmK 3 Pi 25' 45.69 " UBha 1 Pi Le > > > Ketu 3 Vi 25' 45.69 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > > Maandi 24 Le 54' 27.20 " PPha 4 Le Sc > > > Gulika 13 Le 41' 22.41 " PPha 1 Le Le > > > Bhava Lagna 21 Li 03' 21.74 " Visa 1 Li Ar > > > Hora Lagna 29 Pi 59' 13.84 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > > , " gopalraju12 " <gopalraju12@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Bhai, > > > > Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > Mob. : *********** > > > > > > > > see YELLOW PAGES in the link below > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > > > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > > > > > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > > > > > Regards > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 sri ganeshaya namah dear sunil, namaste. thanks a lot for that wonderful post and loads of information. just another 2 queries... 1. i have some stotras that do not have the viniyog lines. are they missing or is it okay if some stotras do not have viniyog lines? 2. i read in some website that water must be taken in right palm and then uttering the viniyog lines , the water must be slowly released on the ground... any idea what this is? btw ,are u frm mumbai?? humble regards, chandan s sabarwal. , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 wrote: > > Respected Chandan Ji, > Let me explain the meaning and importance of viniyoga- > The Viniyoga of each mantra has following components – > 1. The first component is Rishi. In our Vedas it is said that " Rishayo mantra drashtarah " means they have experienced and discovered the mantras but they have not created the mantras. Since they have compiled and mastered completely to that particular mantra, so recalling the name of the rishi shows revered devotion of devotee. It is believed that worship of that rishi before the japa of mantra can give early results. > 2. Second component is chhanda. Different mantras can be practiced with different combination of swaras and gati like mansika, vachika, upanshu…So chhandas are rhythmic composition of chanting the mantras. > 3. Third is devata – The cosmic power to whom we are worshipping to get the desired result. > 4. Fourth- Beej mantra is the tatva ( gist )of the mantra. The japa of beej mantra generates energy that is essential for activation the power of main mantra. > 5. Fifth is keelakam. It is considered as key to unlock the secret of the mantra. > Example- Let us see the example of Viniyoga of Bagalamukhi Kavach- > Om Asya Shri Bagalamukhi Kavachasya Narad Rishih Anushtup Chhandah Bagalamukhi Devata Lam Beejam Aim Keelakam Purusharth Chatushtaye Jape Viniyogah > Here Rishi is Narad, Chhand-Anushtup, Devata-Bagalamukhi, Beeja- Lam, Keelak- Aim, Sixrh component is prayojan for which we are doing the recitation of Kavach. That is pueusharth chatushtay- Dharm, Arth, Kam , Moksha. > Since the Rishis are authorites of the mantra and here Rishi is Narad. So before reciting Bagalamukhi Kavach worship of Narad is advised. > Also in some mantras initiation is very important part. Since we can not meet Rishis in person. But we can seek the guidance of the person who has spent his major part of life in chanting that mantra. So initiation can bring early result in fructification of the mantra. > > Your Nexr question is- > >> > for example if im reciting the stotra 27 times , every single time need to state the :jape viniyoga: lines? > **As my family pandit taught and obvious from the meaning you need to do Viniyoga only once.Do the Viniyoga then recite the stotra and on second repeatition only recite the stotra.Every time you have to do the Viniyoga but only once not for repeatitions. > > Best Regards > Sunil > > > - In , " chandan486 " <wavelogix+jyotishremedies@> wrote: > > > > sri ganeshaya namah > > dear sunil, > > no thanks please .. we are all here to help each other. however i just had a query with which you could maybe help me.. > > > > across many stotras i find couple of lines before the actual stotra starts that end with :jape viniyoga:... > > > > what exactly do these lines mean , where all the rishi,chhand,rishi etc are mentioned? are these lines to be recited every single time before doing the stotra? > > > > for example if im reciting the stotra 27 times , every single time need to state the :jape viniyoga: lines? > > > > also any specific rituals whilst reading the viniyog line? maybe you could also state the importance. > > > > i am from sikh family , so am not aware of many vedic rituals , but trying to pick up myself... > > > > > > humbly, > > chandan s sabarwal. > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Suresh Ji, > > > I will recite the stotra with viniyoga and nyas as given in Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam. In phalshruti of Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam it is written- > > > ya asvayugmansi cha shukla pakshe, ramotsave sannihite cha bhaktya > > > pathettathaikottarvarvriddhya, labhet sauvarnamayeem suvrishteem > > > So on the first day I will recite one path on second day two and following the tithi 15 repeatition on poornima (total 120 repeatitions in 15 days).After that I will recite one path daily. > > > Best Regards > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear sunil singh > > > > > > > > That is excellent. However, if your are not reciting the stotra according to tantra - nyasa etc, you need not do the repeatation, Just recitation of Laxmi Hridaya & Narayana Hridaya will do. > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Suresh Ji, Chandan Ji, Krishnan Ji, > > > > > Thanks for analysis of my horoscope in detail. I have no words to appreciate the kindness of the learned members of this group. > > > > > I will start recitation of Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam from this Navratra (19th Sep) after initiation. Ashvin navratra is best time to start this pooja. The rule is first recite Narayan Hridayam then Lakshmi Hridayam then again Narayan Hridayam. This stotra is described in rahasya bhag of Atharvveda. The author of this stotra is Bhargav rishi. > > > > > I will also worship Rahu/Ketu daily. > > > > > Once again thanks to learned members Niket Ji, Gopal Raju Ji, Tripathi Ji, Chandan Ji, Suresh Ji for giving valuable input and precious time. > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krishna Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > //in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen.// > > > > > > > > > > > > That is exactly my point. The traits or field of activity / expertice gets modified as per the sign Mercury occupies and other planets it gets associated. However, The core quality of what is meant by " Nipuna " meaning profeciency / skillfull / clever/ sharp / keen / perfect / precise etc could be seen in one field or other. But this yoga need not mean that the skill or profeciency should benefit the native financialy as could be seen from the verses. Finance & Skill are two different aspects. A cobler could be skillfull in the the work he is doing and nipuna yoga can make him stand apart amoung others. But he need become rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > Interestingly the views of Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam (Which I suspect is borrowed from Brighu itself) is also worth considering as it places a little more importance to the placement of Sun rather than the mercury itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > If any one is further interested I shall quote those also. > > > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 8, 2009 8:08:21 AM > > > > > > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Suresh Ji,Mrityunjaya Ji, > > > > > > let me meddle with all your permission to convey that:in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen. > > > > > > mercury having no behaviour and working like sjadow palnets(?) is not palpable.But proximity to sun is a common feature which causes nipuna/budha aditya like situations,how ever right it may be > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > > > > > > > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, September 7, 2009, 3:15 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members & Shree Mrithyunjay Tripati ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your further insights and you are right particularly on the aspect of Mercury being being in the star of Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I beg to differ on the point of Nipuna yoga being effective only in the mercurian signs & leo. > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't remember any classical works making an exception on the effect of Sun+ Mercury except as per Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam where they have differentiated the effect NOT based on signs BUT on bhava in which they are placed. (kindly point out if any one has seen it so. It is not easy to search all the books in a short time). > > > > > > > > > > > > I am just quoting the relevant verses from a few authentic works. > > > > > > maanasaagarii. > > > > > > vidvaanaaryo raajamaanyaH > > > > > > sevaashiilaH priyaMvadaH > > > > > > yashasviica sthiradravyo > > > > > > budhasuurya samaagame.. > > > > > > yavana jataka, > > > > > > suuryendau vaakyaguNairupetaM > > > > > > vidvaaMsamaaryam balarupadR^iaptaM > > > > > > yashorthinaM sevakamasthiraartha m > > > > > > khitiishvaraaNaaM dayitaM sataaM cha.. > > > > > > saraavalii.. > > > > > > sevaakR^itasthiradh ano raviGYeyoH priyavachaa yashorthaH syaat > > > > > > aaryaH kshitipatidayitaH sataaM cha balaruupavittavidya avaan.. > > > > > > jaatakaabharaNaM. > > > > > > priyavachaH sachivo bahusevayaarjitadha nashcha kalaakushalo bhavet > > > > > > shrutapaTurhi naro naLiniipatau kumudiniipatisuunus amanvite. . > > > > > > varaaha horaa. > > > > > > budhena nipuNam dhiikiirtisaukhyaan vitaM. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure the learned members shall understand the meaning of these verses. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury offcourse aquires the qualities of the sign & planets it is associated with. So since it is in the sign of naturaly benefic Venus and aspected by Jupiter from the sign of Mercury, The effect of Nipuna Yoga cannot be discounted. > > > > > > > > > > > > Even if we consider the Sage Bhrigu or Hora Ratnam, where the effect of Sun+Mercury is not good in the 8th , it is very good in 9th (from chandra lagna) and more so since Jupiter also is aspecting it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence, I feel we need not consider any exception to the rule, particularly in this case. Mercury association with other planets or vargas may add or twist the nature of yoga like in gemini, the yoga (Nipunatha) might be felt in arts while in virgo it might be felt more on education, in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is also interesting to note while we both were against wearing green emerald, the native himself has revealed that he has been wearing it and did not do much good. So, we have to assume that it proves the point. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a few thoughts on the subject of Nipuna Yoga. > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > astrologer_mrutyunj ay <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay > > > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, September 7, 2009 3:24:43 PM > > > > > > Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice suggestions by Shree Suresh Babu Jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > Nipuna Yoga takes place only in the signs ruled by mercury,sun > > > > > > > > > > > > i.e. gemini, virgo and leo. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > From my humble experiences > > > > > > > > > > > > (i) weakness or affliction of 3rd and 11th lord from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > (ii) occupation of weak or afflicted planets in 3rd and 11th from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > (iii) Rasi Drishti of Badhaka Planet > > > > > > > > > > > > (iv) rasi drishti upon 12th house from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > are the condition for sudden physical or financial happenings > > > > > > > > > > > > leading to physical or financial losses. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreover as per stellar dispositor concepts- > > > > > > > > > > > > mercury in the constellation of moon placed in the 12th house > > > > > > > > > > > > is not good financially > > > > > > > > > > > > to be strengthened for obvious reasons. > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards and best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I fully agree with Shree Mrinthyujay Tripati ji about Emerald may not be beneficial to you, but for a different reason, which is natural since both of us use different analytical methods. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury is 12th lord & 9th lord in the 8th from lagna and chandra lagna lord and 10th lord in the 9th from chandra lagna. So Mercury is mostly beneficial except for the 12th house lordship which is also important. However the point is it is vargottama & retrograde, hence already very powerfull. It being combust is not considered very important as per classics since Mercury never leaves the company of Sun and is mostly combust - which also confer Nipuna Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, the chart has other afflictions Such as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus + Rahu in the 6th & Jupiter + Moon +Ketu in the 12th. Jupiter is having Neecha Navamsa also. So a planet which is along with Moon giving Kesari Yoga is weak and also afflicted with Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Further Mars, 2nd house lord is also retrograde that too in its own house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder how wearing a stone shall help rectify the effects of retrograde planet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only a few case with prooven history can conform the validity of such logics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till then it would be better if the native resorts to religious remedies, particularly since Jupiter & venus are in Sama Sapthama with venus exalted & varothama. Mahala Laxmi should be propitiated to financial stabilty. Rahu / Ketu pooja should also be done along with poojas to Lord Mahadev. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As Shree Mrithyunja Tripati Ji as implied, it is upto to you to experiment with costly stones or spend a few minutes of your time to propetiate the deities. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " astrologer_ mrutyunjay " <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Testing astrology and gemstone is good > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you can financially afford it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I do not think it is wise to afford > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at the cost of one's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > loss of health/ wealth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wearing Emerlad for the native whose birth details given below > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > may lead to serious health problem/ accident/ litigations etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrological reasons : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (1) mercury is 11th lord from Arudha Lagna resperesting sudden happenings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (2)in the constellation of moon the planet ruling over 12th house from arudha lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (3)moon placed in 12th house from Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (4) mercury combust in 8th house in rasi being the 12th lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (5)mercury vargottma and in marana karaka sthana in the navamsa chart (relationships/ partnerships/ communications) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (6)Sun and mercury are closely conjunct in the 8th house. Mercury being friend of Sun is giving the result of Sun. Note the navamsa chart. Sun owns the 4th navamsa or khara navamsa counted from taurus navamsa occupied by mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does wearing of Emerlad is going to free it from sun's influence ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The more you strengthen Mercury....the more negatively and successfully > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it would act for Sun ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be better if the learned members and astrologer go with a few lines of basic analysis while suggesting or accepting gemstones for betterment of future. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May 27, 1969 > > > > > > > > Time: 16:05:00 > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > > > > > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 3 Li 32' 00.92 " Chit 4 Li Sc > > > > > > > > Sun - PK 12 Ta 32' 54.51 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar > > > > > > > > Moon - MK 17 Vi 19' 35.25 " Hast 3 Vi Ge > > > > > > > > Mars ® - BK 18 Sc 01' 28.23 " Jye 1 Sc Sg > > > > > > > > Mercury ® - PiK 15 Ta 29' 34.04 " Rohi 2 Ta Ta > > > > > > > > Jupiter - DK 2 Vi 42' 47.15 " UPha 2 Vi Cp > > > > > > > > Venus - AK 28 Pi 52' 27.09 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > > > > Saturn - GK 9 Ar 54' 34.47 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge > > > > > > > > Rahu - AmK 3 Pi 25' 45.69 " UBha 1 Pi Le > > > > > > > > Ketu 3 Vi 25' 45.69 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > > > > > > > Maandi 24 Le 54' 27.20 " PPha 4 Le Sc > > > > > > > > Gulika 13 Le 41' 22.41 " PPha 1 Le Le > > > > > > > > Bhava Lagna 21 Li 03' 21.74 " Visa 1 Li Ar > > > > > > > > Hora Lagna 29 Pi 59' 13.84 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gopalraju12 " <gopalraju12@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Bhai, > > > > > > > > > Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. > > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > > > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > > > > > > Mob. : *********** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see YELLOW PAGES in the link below > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > > > > > > > > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > > > > > > > > > > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Respected Chandan Ji, Namaste 1. Some stotras do not have Viniyoga lines this means in your text it has not written. But definitely some Rishi has compiled that stotra. It's Ok to read the stotra in case viniyoga is not available in the book. But in some books you can find the viniyoga of same stotra. For example in some books I have not found viniyoga of 'Aditya Hridaya Stotra' but I found viniyoga of the same in the book of Geeta Press ( two rupees price).One more thing Rishi (in viniyoga )should not be misunderstood as common meaning- sage,like Vishvamitra, Vashishth. This example of viniyoga of Hanumat Vadvanal Stotra will clarify- 'Om Asya Shri Hanumat Vadavanal Stotra Mantrasya Shri Ramchadra Rishih Shri Vadavanal Hanuman Devata Mam Samast Rog Prashamanartham Ayu Arogya Aishvarayabhi Vridhyartham Samast Pap Chhayartham Shri Sita Ramchandra Preetyartham Cha Hanumat Vadavanal Stotra Japam Aham Karishye' Here Rishi is Lord Ram and devata is Hanuman. Ram has discovered and mastered this stotra so he is authority of this stotra thats why he is Rishi.Here Chhanda, Beeja and Keelak is not given after devata all the things are prayojan. 2. You are absolutely true. Some water must be taken in right palm and after reading viniyoga must be released slowly on the ground. Take the example of hanumat vadvanal stotra,last three words Japam Aham Karishye. Means you will do the jap of that stotra and by taking water in right hand and saying those words means you have firm will and water is the witness. But there is difference between Sankalp and viniyoga. Ashvin navrtra will start from 19th of this month. Suppose a person is going to start the path of Durga Sapatashati, then first he will have to take the sankalp of recitation of whole saptashati ( this will include his name, gotra, month,paksha, tithi, plannetary position of that time...etc.) . There are 13 Adhyay in Saptashati. First adhyay is pratham charit and the devta of pratham charit is Mahakali and rishi is Brahma.So before the recitation of pratham charit viniyoga of pratham charit is must. Second,third and fourth adhyay is madhyam charit devata of madhyam charit is Mahalakshmi and rishi is Vishnu.So just after the completion of first charit do the viniyog of madhyam charit. From 5th to 13th adhyay is called uttar charit, devata of uttar charit is Mahasarasvati and rishi is Rudra.So just before the start of uttar charit i.e 5th adhyay do the viniyoga of uttar charit. I hope that examples will clarify. I am not from Mumbai. Best Regards Sunil , " chandan486 " <wavelogix+jyotishremedies wrote: > > sri ganeshaya namah > > dear sunil, > namaste. > > thanks a lot for that wonderful post and loads of information. just another 2 queries... > > 1. i have some stotras that do not have the viniyog lines. are they missing or is it okay if some stotras do not have viniyog lines? > > 2. i read in some website that water must be taken in right palm and then uttering the viniyog lines , the water must be slowly released on the ground... any idea what this is? > > btw ,are u frm mumbai?? > > > humble regards, > chandan s sabarwal. > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > Respected Chandan Ji, > > Let me explain the meaning and importance of viniyoga- > > The Viniyoga of each mantra has following components – > > 1. The first component is Rishi. In our Vedas it is said that " Rishayo mantra drashtarah " means they have experienced and discovered the mantras but they have not created the mantras. Since they have compiled and mastered completely to that particular mantra, so recalling the name of the rishi shows revered devotion of devotee. It is believed that worship of that rishi before the japa of mantra can give early results. > > 2. Second component is chhanda. Different mantras can be practiced with different combination of swaras and gati like mansika, vachika, upanshu…So chhandas are rhythmic composition of chanting the mantras. > > 3. Third is devata – The cosmic power to whom we are worshipping to get the desired result. > > 4. Fourth- Beej mantra is the tatva ( gist )of the mantra. The japa of beej mantra generates energy that is essential for activation the power of main mantra. > > 5. Fifth is keelakam. It is considered as key to unlock the secret of the mantra. > > Example- Let us see the example of Viniyoga of Bagalamukhi Kavach- > > Om Asya Shri Bagalamukhi Kavachasya Narad Rishih Anushtup Chhandah Bagalamukhi Devata Lam Beejam Aim Keelakam Purusharth Chatushtaye Jape Viniyogah > > Here Rishi is Narad, Chhand-Anushtup, Devata-Bagalamukhi, Beeja- Lam, Keelak- Aim, Sixrh component is prayojan for which we are doing the recitation of Kavach. That is pueusharth chatushtay- Dharm, Arth, Kam , Moksha. > > Since the Rishis are authorites of the mantra and here Rishi is Narad. So before reciting Bagalamukhi Kavach worship of Narad is advised. > > Also in some mantras initiation is very important part. Since we can not meet Rishis in person. But we can seek the guidance of the person who has spent his major part of life in chanting that mantra. So initiation can bring early result in fructification of the mantra. > > > > Your Nexr question is- > > >> > > for example if im reciting the stotra 27 times , every single time need to state the :jape viniyoga: lines? > > **As my family pandit taught and obvious from the meaning you need to do Viniyoga only once.Do the Viniyoga then recite the stotra and on second repeatition only recite the stotra.Every time you have to do the Viniyoga but only once not for repeatitions. > > > > Best Regards > > Sunil > > > > > > - In , " chandan486 " <wavelogix+jyotishremedies@> wrote: > > > > > > sri ganeshaya namah > > > dear sunil, > > > no thanks please .. we are all here to help each other. however i just had a query with which you could maybe help me.. > > > > > > across many stotras i find couple of lines before the actual stotra starts that end with :jape viniyoga:... > > > > > > what exactly do these lines mean , where all the rishi,chhand,rishi etc are mentioned? are these lines to be recited every single time before doing the stotra? > > > > > > for example if im reciting the stotra 27 times , every single time need to state the :jape viniyoga: lines? > > > > > > also any specific rituals whilst reading the viniyog line? maybe you could also state the importance. > > > > > > i am from sikh family , so am not aware of many vedic rituals , but trying to pick up myself... > > > > > > > > > humbly, > > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Suresh Ji, > > > > I will recite the stotra with viniyoga and nyas as given in Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam. In phalshruti of Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam it is written- > > > > ya asvayugmansi cha shukla pakshe, ramotsave sannihite cha bhaktya > > > > pathettathaikottarvarvriddhya, labhet sauvarnamayeem suvrishteem > > > > So on the first day I will recite one path on second day two and following the tithi 15 repeatition on poornima (total 120 repeatitions in 15 days).After that I will recite one path daily. > > > > Best Regards > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear sunil singh > > > > > > > > > > That is excellent. However, if your are not reciting the stotra according to tantra - nyasa etc, you need not do the repeatation, Just recitation of Laxmi Hridaya & Narayana Hridaya will do. > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Suresh Ji, Chandan Ji, Krishnan Ji, > > > > > > Thanks for analysis of my horoscope in detail. I have no words to appreciate the kindness of the learned members of this group. > > > > > > I will start recitation of Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam from this Navratra (19th Sep) after initiation. Ashvin navratra is best time to start this pooja. The rule is first recite Narayan Hridayam then Lakshmi Hridayam then again Narayan Hridayam. This stotra is described in rahasya bhag of Atharvveda. The author of this stotra is Bhargav rishi. > > > > > > I will also worship Rahu/Ketu daily. > > > > > > Once again thanks to learned members Niket Ji, Gopal Raju Ji, Tripathi Ji, Chandan Ji, Suresh Ji for giving valuable input and precious time. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krishna Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is exactly my point. The traits or field of activity / expertice gets modified as per the sign Mercury occupies and other planets it gets associated. However, The core quality of what is meant by " Nipuna " meaning profeciency / skillfull / clever/ sharp / keen / perfect / precise etc could be seen in one field or other. But this yoga need not mean that the skill or profeciency should benefit the native financialy as could be seen from the verses. Finance & Skill are two different aspects. A cobler could be skillfull in the the work he is doing and nipuna yoga can make him stand apart amoung others. But he need become rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interestingly the views of Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam (Which I suspect is borrowed from Brighu itself) is also worth considering as it places a little more importance to the placement of Sun rather than the mercury itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If any one is further interested I shall quote those also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 8, 2009 8:08:21 AM > > > > > > > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Suresh Ji,Mrityunjaya Ji, > > > > > > > let me meddle with all your permission to convey that:in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen. > > > > > > > mercury having no behaviour and working like sjadow palnets(?) is not palpable.But proximity to sun is a common feature which causes nipuna/budha aditya like situations,how ever right it may be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > > > > > > > > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, September 7, 2009, 3:15 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members & Shree Mrithyunjay Tripati ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your further insights and you are right particularly on the aspect of Mercury being being in the star of Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I beg to differ on the point of Nipuna yoga being effective only in the mercurian signs & leo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't remember any classical works making an exception on the effect of Sun+ Mercury except as per Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam where they have differentiated the effect NOT based on signs BUT on bhava in which they are placed. (kindly point out if any one has seen it so. It is not easy to search all the books in a short time). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am just quoting the relevant verses from a few authentic works. > > > > > > > maanasaagarii. > > > > > > > vidvaanaaryo raajamaanyaH > > > > > > > sevaashiilaH priyaMvadaH > > > > > > > yashasviica sthiradravyo > > > > > > > budhasuurya samaagame.. > > > > > > > yavana jataka, > > > > > > > suuryendau vaakyaguNairupetaM > > > > > > > vidvaaMsamaaryam balarupadR^iaptaM > > > > > > > yashorthinaM sevakamasthiraartha m > > > > > > > khitiishvaraaNaaM dayitaM sataaM cha.. > > > > > > > saraavalii.. > > > > > > > sevaakR^itasthiradh ano raviGYeyoH priyavachaa yashorthaH syaat > > > > > > > aaryaH kshitipatidayitaH sataaM cha balaruupavittavidya avaan.. > > > > > > > jaatakaabharaNaM. > > > > > > > priyavachaH sachivo bahusevayaarjitadha nashcha kalaakushalo bhavet > > > > > > > shrutapaTurhi naro naLiniipatau kumudiniipatisuunus amanvite. . > > > > > > > varaaha horaa. > > > > > > > budhena nipuNam dhiikiirtisaukhyaan vitaM. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure the learned members shall understand the meaning of these verses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury offcourse aquires the qualities of the sign & planets it is associated with. So since it is in the sign of naturaly benefic Venus and aspected by Jupiter from the sign of Mercury, The effect of Nipuna Yoga cannot be discounted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even if we consider the Sage Bhrigu or Hora Ratnam, where the effect of Sun+Mercury is not good in the 8th , it is very good in 9th (from chandra lagna) and more so since Jupiter also is aspecting it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence, I feel we need not consider any exception to the rule, particularly in this case. Mercury association with other planets or vargas may add or twist the nature of yoga like in gemini, the yoga (Nipunatha) might be felt in arts while in virgo it might be felt more on education, in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is also interesting to note while we both were against wearing green emerald, the native himself has revealed that he has been wearing it and did not do much good. So, we have to assume that it proves the point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a few thoughts on the subject of Nipuna Yoga. > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > astrologer_mrutyunj ay <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, September 7, 2009 3:24:43 PM > > > > > > > Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice suggestions by Shree Suresh Babu Jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nipuna Yoga takes place only in the signs ruled by mercury,sun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i.e. gemini, virgo and leo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > > From my humble experiences > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (i) weakness or affliction of 3rd and 11th lord from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (ii) occupation of weak or afflicted planets in 3rd and 11th from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (iii) Rasi Drishti of Badhaka Planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (iv) rasi drishti upon 12th house from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are the condition for sudden physical or financial happenings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leading to physical or financial losses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreover as per stellar dispositor concepts- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mercury in the constellation of moon placed in the 12th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is not good financially > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to be strengthened for obvious reasons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards and best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I fully agree with Shree Mrinthyujay Tripati ji about Emerald may not be beneficial to you, but for a different reason, which is natural since both of us use different analytical methods. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury is 12th lord & 9th lord in the 8th from lagna and chandra lagna lord and 10th lord in the 9th from chandra lagna. So Mercury is mostly beneficial except for the 12th house lordship which is also important. However the point is it is vargottama & retrograde, hence already very powerfull. It being combust is not considered very important as per classics since Mercury never leaves the company of Sun and is mostly combust - which also confer Nipuna Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, the chart has other afflictions Such as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus + Rahu in the 6th & Jupiter + Moon +Ketu in the 12th. Jupiter is having Neecha Navamsa also. So a planet which is along with Moon giving Kesari Yoga is weak and also afflicted with Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Further Mars, 2nd house lord is also retrograde that too in its own house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder how wearing a stone shall help rectify the effects of retrograde planet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only a few case with prooven history can conform the validity of such logics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till then it would be better if the native resorts to religious remedies, particularly since Jupiter & venus are in Sama Sapthama with venus exalted & varothama. Mahala Laxmi should be propitiated to financial stabilty. Rahu / Ketu pooja should also be done along with poojas to Lord Mahadev. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As Shree Mrithyunja Tripati Ji as implied, it is upto to you to experiment with costly stones or spend a few minutes of your time to propetiate the deities. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " astrologer_ mrutyunjay " <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Testing astrology and gemstone is good > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you can financially afford it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I do not think it is wise to afford > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at the cost of one's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > loss of health/ wealth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wearing Emerlad for the native whose birth details given below > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > may lead to serious health problem/ accident/ litigations etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrological reasons : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (1) mercury is 11th lord from Arudha Lagna resperesting sudden happenings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (2)in the constellation of moon the planet ruling over 12th house from arudha lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (3)moon placed in 12th house from Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (4) mercury combust in 8th house in rasi being the 12th lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (5)mercury vargottma and in marana karaka sthana in the navamsa chart (relationships/ partnerships/ communications) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (6)Sun and mercury are closely conjunct in the 8th house. Mercury being friend of Sun is giving the result of Sun. Note the navamsa chart. Sun owns the 4th navamsa or khara navamsa counted from taurus navamsa occupied by mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does wearing of Emerlad is going to free it from sun's influence ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The more you strengthen Mercury....the more negatively and successfully > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it would act for Sun ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be better if the learned members and astrologer go with a few lines of basic analysis while suggesting or accepting gemstones for betterment of future. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May 27, 1969 > > > > > > > > > Time: 16:05:00 > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > > > > > > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 3 Li 32' 00.92 " Chit 4 Li Sc > > > > > > > > > Sun - PK 12 Ta 32' 54.51 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar > > > > > > > > > Moon - MK 17 Vi 19' 35.25 " Hast 3 Vi Ge > > > > > > > > > Mars ® - BK 18 Sc 01' 28.23 " Jye 1 Sc Sg > > > > > > > > > Mercury ® - PiK 15 Ta 29' 34.04 " Rohi 2 Ta Ta > > > > > > > > > Jupiter - DK 2 Vi 42' 47.15 " UPha 2 Vi Cp > > > > > > > > > Venus - AK 28 Pi 52' 27.09 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > > > > > Saturn - GK 9 Ar 54' 34.47 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge > > > > > > > > > Rahu - AmK 3 Pi 25' 45.69 " UBha 1 Pi Le > > > > > > > > > Ketu 3 Vi 25' 45.69 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > > > > > > > > Maandi 24 Le 54' 27.20 " PPha 4 Le Sc > > > > > > > > > Gulika 13 Le 41' 22.41 " PPha 1 Le Le > > > > > > > > > Bhava Lagna 21 Li 03' 21.74 " Visa 1 Li Ar > > > > > > > > > Hora Lagna 29 Pi 59' 13.84 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gopalraju12 " <gopalraju12@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Bhai, > > > > > > > > > > Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. > > > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > > > > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > > > > > > > Mob. : *********** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see YELLOW PAGES in the link below > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > > > > > > > > > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > > > > > > > > > > > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 sri ganeshaya namah dear sunil ji, namaste. thanks a lotf for the wonderful information once again . you seem to be very knowledgebale as far as these stotras are concerened. however . im currently doing brihaspati stotram from skand purana. is it absolutely essential to release water whilst doing viniyoga? should we always recite the stotra while sitting? sometimes i tend to walk around while mentally repeating a stotra as much as i can , it gives me great results ..!! also , if we were to repeate the viniyoga lines every single time , it should not be a problem i guess .... do i also need initiation for stotras ? i thought initiation was only the case with mantras which have beejas ! please guide me... humbly, chandan s sabarwal. , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 wrote: > > > Respected Chandan Ji, > Namaste > 1. Some stotras do not have Viniyoga lines this means in your text it has not written. But definitely some Rishi has compiled that stotra. It's Ok to read the stotra in case viniyoga is not available in the book. But in some books you can find the viniyoga of same stotra. For example in some books I have not found viniyoga of 'Aditya Hridaya Stotra' but I found viniyoga of the same in the book of Geeta Press ( two rupees price).One more thing Rishi (in viniyoga )should not be misunderstood as common meaning- sage,like Vishvamitra, Vashishth. > This example of viniyoga of Hanumat Vadvanal Stotra will clarify- > 'Om Asya Shri Hanumat Vadavanal Stotra Mantrasya Shri Ramchadra Rishih Shri Vadavanal Hanuman Devata Mam Samast Rog Prashamanartham Ayu Arogya Aishvarayabhi Vridhyartham Samast Pap Chhayartham Shri Sita Ramchandra Preetyartham Cha Hanumat Vadavanal Stotra Japam Aham Karishye' > Here Rishi is Lord Ram and devata is Hanuman. Ram has discovered and mastered this stotra so he is authority of this stotra thats why he is Rishi.Here Chhanda, Beeja and Keelak is not given after devata all the things are prayojan. > 2. You are absolutely true. Some water must be taken in right palm and after reading viniyoga must be released slowly on the ground. Take the example of hanumat vadvanal stotra,last three words Japam Aham Karishye. Means you will do the jap of that stotra and by taking water in right hand and saying those words means you have firm will and water is the witness. > But there is difference between Sankalp and viniyoga. Ashvin navrtra will start from 19th of this month. Suppose a person is going to start the path of Durga Sapatashati, then first he will have to take the sankalp of recitation of whole saptashati ( this will include his name, gotra, month,paksha, tithi, plannetary position of that time...etc.) . There are 13 Adhyay in Saptashati. First adhyay is pratham charit and the devta of pratham charit is Mahakali and rishi is Brahma.So before the recitation of pratham charit viniyoga of pratham charit is must. Second,third and fourth adhyay is madhyam charit devata of madhyam charit is Mahalakshmi and rishi is Vishnu.So just after the completion of first charit do the viniyog of madhyam charit. From 5th to 13th adhyay is called uttar charit, devata of uttar charit is Mahasarasvati and rishi is Rudra.So just before the start of uttar charit i.e 5th adhyay do the viniyoga of uttar charit. > I hope that examples will clarify. > I am not from Mumbai. > Best Regards > Sunil > , " chandan486 " <wavelogix+jyotishremedies@> wrote: > > > > sri ganeshaya namah > > > > dear sunil, > > namaste. > > > > thanks a lot for that wonderful post and loads of information. just another 2 queries... > > > > 1. i have some stotras that do not have the viniyog lines. are they missing or is it okay if some stotras do not have viniyog lines? > > > > 2. i read in some website that water must be taken in right palm and then uttering the viniyog lines , the water must be slowly released on the ground... any idea what this is? > > > > btw ,are u frm mumbai?? > > > > > > humble regards, > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Chandan Ji, > > > Let me explain the meaning and importance of viniyoga- > > > The Viniyoga of each mantra has following components – > > > 1. The first component is Rishi. In our Vedas it is said that " Rishayo mantra drashtarah " means they have experienced and discovered the mantras but they have not created the mantras. Since they have compiled and mastered completely to that particular mantra, so recalling the name of the rishi shows revered devotion of devotee. It is believed that worship of that rishi before the japa of mantra can give early results. > > > 2. Second component is chhanda. Different mantras can be practiced with different combination of swaras and gati like mansika, vachika, upanshu…So chhandas are rhythmic composition of chanting the mantras. > > > 3. Third is devata – The cosmic power to whom we are worshipping to get the desired result. > > > 4. Fourth- Beej mantra is the tatva ( gist )of the mantra. The japa of beej mantra generates energy that is essential for activation the power of main mantra. > > > 5. Fifth is keelakam. It is considered as key to unlock the secret of the mantra. > > > Example- Let us see the example of Viniyoga of Bagalamukhi Kavach- > > > Om Asya Shri Bagalamukhi Kavachasya Narad Rishih Anushtup Chhandah Bagalamukhi Devata Lam Beejam Aim Keelakam Purusharth Chatushtaye Jape Viniyogah > > > Here Rishi is Narad, Chhand-Anushtup, Devata-Bagalamukhi, Beeja- Lam, Keelak- Aim, Sixrh component is prayojan for which we are doing the recitation of Kavach. That is pueusharth chatushtay- Dharm, Arth, Kam , Moksha. > > > Since the Rishis are authorites of the mantra and here Rishi is Narad. So before reciting Bagalamukhi Kavach worship of Narad is advised. > > > Also in some mantras initiation is very important part. Since we can not meet Rishis in person. But we can seek the guidance of the person who has spent his major part of life in chanting that mantra. So initiation can bring early result in fructification of the mantra. > > > > > > Your Nexr question is- > > > >> > > > for example if im reciting the stotra 27 times , every single time need to state the :jape viniyoga: lines? > > > **As my family pandit taught and obvious from the meaning you need to do Viniyoga only once.Do the Viniyoga then recite the stotra and on second repeatition only recite the stotra.Every time you have to do the Viniyoga but only once not for repeatitions. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > - In , " chandan486 " <wavelogix+jyotishremedies@> wrote: > > > > > > > > sri ganeshaya namah > > > > dear sunil, > > > > no thanks please .. we are all here to help each other. however i just had a query with which you could maybe help me.. > > > > > > > > across many stotras i find couple of lines before the actual stotra starts that end with :jape viniyoga:... > > > > > > > > what exactly do these lines mean , where all the rishi,chhand,rishi etc are mentioned? are these lines to be recited every single time before doing the stotra? > > > > > > > > for example if im reciting the stotra 27 times , every single time need to state the :jape viniyoga: lines? > > > > > > > > also any specific rituals whilst reading the viniyog line? maybe you could also state the importance. > > > > > > > > i am from sikh family , so am not aware of many vedic rituals , but trying to pick up myself... > > > > > > > > > > > > humbly, > > > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Suresh Ji, > > > > > I will recite the stotra with viniyoga and nyas as given in Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam. In phalshruti of Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam it is written- > > > > > ya asvayugmansi cha shukla pakshe, ramotsave sannihite cha bhaktya > > > > > pathettathaikottarvarvriddhya, labhet sauvarnamayeem suvrishteem > > > > > So on the first day I will recite one path on second day two and following the tithi 15 repeatition on poornima (total 120 repeatitions in 15 days).After that I will recite one path daily. > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear sunil singh > > > > > > > > > > > > That is excellent. However, if your are not reciting the stotra according to tantra - nyasa etc, you need not do the repeatation, Just recitation of Laxmi Hridaya & Narayana Hridaya will do. > > > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Suresh Ji, Chandan Ji, Krishnan Ji, > > > > > > > Thanks for analysis of my horoscope in detail. I have no words to appreciate the kindness of the learned members of this group. > > > > > > > I will start recitation of Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam from this Navratra (19th Sep) after initiation. Ashvin navratra is best time to start this pooja. The rule is first recite Narayan Hridayam then Lakshmi Hridayam then again Narayan Hridayam. This stotra is described in rahasya bhag of Atharvveda. The author of this stotra is Bhargav rishi. > > > > > > > I will also worship Rahu/Ketu daily. > > > > > > > Once again thanks to learned members Niket Ji, Gopal Raju Ji, Tripathi Ji, Chandan Ji, Suresh Ji for giving valuable input and precious time. > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krishna Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is exactly my point. The traits or field of activity / expertice gets modified as per the sign Mercury occupies and other planets it gets associated. However, The core quality of what is meant by " Nipuna " meaning profeciency / skillfull / clever/ sharp / keen / perfect / precise etc could be seen in one field or other. But this yoga need not mean that the skill or profeciency should benefit the native financialy as could be seen from the verses. Finance & Skill are two different aspects. A cobler could be skillfull in the the work he is doing and nipuna yoga can make him stand apart amoung others. But he need become rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interestingly the views of Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam (Which I suspect is borrowed from Brighu itself) is also worth considering as it places a little more importance to the placement of Sun rather than the mercury itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If any one is further interested I shall quote those also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 8, 2009 8:08:21 AM > > > > > > > > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Suresh Ji,Mrityunjaya Ji, > > > > > > > > let me meddle with all your permission to convey that:in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen. > > > > > > > > mercury having no behaviour and working like sjadow palnets(?) is not palpable.But proximity to sun is a common feature which causes nipuna/budha aditya like situations,how ever right it may be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > > > > > > > > > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, September 7, 2009, 3:15 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members & Shree Mrithyunjay Tripati ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your further insights and you are right particularly on the aspect of Mercury being being in the star of Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I beg to differ on the point of Nipuna yoga being effective only in the mercurian signs & leo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't remember any classical works making an exception on the effect of Sun+ Mercury except as per Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam where they have differentiated the effect NOT based on signs BUT on bhava in which they are placed. (kindly point out if any one has seen it so. It is not easy to search all the books in a short time). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am just quoting the relevant verses from a few authentic works. > > > > > > > > maanasaagarii. > > > > > > > > vidvaanaaryo raajamaanyaH > > > > > > > > sevaashiilaH priyaMvadaH > > > > > > > > yashasviica sthiradravyo > > > > > > > > budhasuurya samaagame.. > > > > > > > > yavana jataka, > > > > > > > > suuryendau vaakyaguNairupetaM > > > > > > > > vidvaaMsamaaryam balarupadR^iaptaM > > > > > > > > yashorthinaM sevakamasthiraartha m > > > > > > > > khitiishvaraaNaaM dayitaM sataaM cha.. > > > > > > > > saraavalii.. > > > > > > > > sevaakR^itasthiradh ano raviGYeyoH priyavachaa yashorthaH syaat > > > > > > > > aaryaH kshitipatidayitaH sataaM cha balaruupavittavidya avaan.. > > > > > > > > jaatakaabharaNaM. > > > > > > > > priyavachaH sachivo bahusevayaarjitadha nashcha kalaakushalo bhavet > > > > > > > > shrutapaTurhi naro naLiniipatau kumudiniipatisuunus amanvite. . > > > > > > > > varaaha horaa. > > > > > > > > budhena nipuNam dhiikiirtisaukhyaan vitaM. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure the learned members shall understand the meaning of these verses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury offcourse aquires the qualities of the sign & planets it is associated with. So since it is in the sign of naturaly benefic Venus and aspected by Jupiter from the sign of Mercury, The effect of Nipuna Yoga cannot be discounted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even if we consider the Sage Bhrigu or Hora Ratnam, where the effect of Sun+Mercury is not good in the 8th , it is very good in 9th (from chandra lagna) and more so since Jupiter also is aspecting it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence, I feel we need not consider any exception to the rule, particularly in this case. Mercury association with other planets or vargas may add or twist the nature of yoga like in gemini, the yoga (Nipunatha) might be felt in arts while in virgo it might be felt more on education, in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is also interesting to note while we both were against wearing green emerald, the native himself has revealed that he has been wearing it and did not do much good. So, we have to assume that it proves the point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a few thoughts on the subject of Nipuna Yoga. > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > astrologer_mrutyunj ay <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay (AT) (DOT) com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, September 7, 2009 3:24:43 PM > > > > > > > > Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice suggestions by Shree Suresh Babu Jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nipuna Yoga takes place only in the signs ruled by mercury,sun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i.e. gemini, virgo and leo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > > > From my humble experiences > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (i) weakness or affliction of 3rd and 11th lord from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (ii) occupation of weak or afflicted planets in 3rd and 11th from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (iii) Rasi Drishti of Badhaka Planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (iv) rasi drishti upon 12th house from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are the condition for sudden physical or financial happenings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leading to physical or financial losses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreover as per stellar dispositor concepts- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mercury in the constellation of moon placed in the 12th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is not good financially > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to be strengthened for obvious reasons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards and best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I fully agree with Shree Mrinthyujay Tripati ji about Emerald may not be beneficial to you, but for a different reason, which is natural since both of us use different analytical methods. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury is 12th lord & 9th lord in the 8th from lagna and chandra lagna lord and 10th lord in the 9th from chandra lagna. So Mercury is mostly beneficial except for the 12th house lordship which is also important. However the point is it is vargottama & retrograde, hence already very powerfull. It being combust is not considered very important as per classics since Mercury never leaves the company of Sun and is mostly combust - which also confer Nipuna Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, the chart has other afflictions Such as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus + Rahu in the 6th & Jupiter + Moon +Ketu in the 12th. Jupiter is having Neecha Navamsa also. So a planet which is along with Moon giving Kesari Yoga is weak and also afflicted with Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Further Mars, 2nd house lord is also retrograde that too in its own house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder how wearing a stone shall help rectify the effects of retrograde planet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only a few case with prooven history can conform the validity of such logics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till then it would be better if the native resorts to religious remedies, particularly since Jupiter & venus are in Sama Sapthama with venus exalted & varothama. Mahala Laxmi should be propitiated to financial stabilty. Rahu / Ketu pooja should also be done along with poojas to Lord Mahadev. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As Shree Mrithyunja Tripati Ji as implied, it is upto to you to experiment with costly stones or spend a few minutes of your time to propetiate the deities. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " astrologer_ mrutyunjay " <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Testing astrology and gemstone is good > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you can financially afford it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I do not think it is wise to afford > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at the cost of one's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > loss of health/ wealth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wearing Emerlad for the native whose birth details given below > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > may lead to serious health problem/ accident/ litigations etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrological reasons : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (1) mercury is 11th lord from Arudha Lagna resperesting sudden happenings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (2)in the constellation of moon the planet ruling over 12th house from arudha lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (3)moon placed in 12th house from Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (4) mercury combust in 8th house in rasi being the 12th lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (5)mercury vargottma and in marana karaka sthana in the navamsa chart (relationships/ partnerships/ communications) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (6)Sun and mercury are closely conjunct in the 8th house. Mercury being friend of Sun is giving the result of Sun. Note the navamsa chart. Sun owns the 4th navamsa or khara navamsa counted from taurus navamsa occupied by mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does wearing of Emerlad is going to free it from sun's influence ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The more you strengthen Mercury....the more negatively and successfully > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it would act for Sun ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be better if the learned members and astrologer go with a few lines of basic analysis while suggesting or accepting gemstones for betterment of future. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May 27, 1969 > > > > > > > > > > Time: 16:05:00 > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 3 Li 32' 00.92 " Chit 4 Li Sc > > > > > > > > > > Sun - PK 12 Ta 32' 54.51 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar > > > > > > > > > > Moon - MK 17 Vi 19' 35.25 " Hast 3 Vi Ge > > > > > > > > > > Mars ® - BK 18 Sc 01' 28.23 " Jye 1 Sc Sg > > > > > > > > > > Mercury ® - PiK 15 Ta 29' 34.04 " Rohi 2 Ta Ta > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter - DK 2 Vi 42' 47.15 " UPha 2 Vi Cp > > > > > > > > > > Venus - AK 28 Pi 52' 27.09 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > > > > > > Saturn - GK 9 Ar 54' 34.47 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge > > > > > > > > > > Rahu - AmK 3 Pi 25' 45.69 " UBha 1 Pi Le > > > > > > > > > > Ketu 3 Vi 25' 45.69 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > > > > > > > > > Maandi 24 Le 54' 27.20 " PPha 4 Le Sc > > > > > > > > > > Gulika 13 Le 41' 22.41 " PPha 1 Le Le > > > > > > > > > > Bhava Lagna 21 Li 03' 21.74 " Visa 1 Li Ar > > > > > > > > > > Hora Lagna 29 Pi 59' 13.84 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gopalraju12 " <gopalraju12@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Bhai, > > > > > > > > > > > Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > > > > > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > > > > > > > > Mob. : *********** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see YELLOW PAGES in the link below > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > > > > > > > > > > > > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Respected Chandan Ji, Namaste Please find the answers- >>is it absolutely essential to release water whilst doing viniyoga? ** It is suggested. >> should we always recite the stotra while sitting? sometimes i tend to walk around while mentally repeating a stotra as much as i can , it gives me great results ..!! ** No. You can do mental repeatition ( without the movement of tongue ) at any time in any posture. e.g while travelling while doing any work. You can repeat mentally without having a bath . >> if we were to repeate the viniyoga lines every single time , it should not be a problem i guess .... ** No problem. >> do i also need initiation for stotras ? i thought initiation was only the case with mantras which have beejas ! **You are right. But some stotras also needs initiation. For example Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam that I discussed with our learned member Suresh Ji needs initiation. Since it is described in rahasya bhag of Atharva Veda. Such secret stotras should not be recited without initiation. I hope this helps. Best Regards Sunil , " chandan486 " <wavelogix+jyotishremedies wrote: > > sri ganeshaya namah > > dear sunil ji, > namaste. thanks a lotf for the wonderful information once again . you seem to be very knowledgebale as far as these stotras are concerened. > > however . im currently doing brihaspati stotram from skand purana. > > is it absolutely essential to release water whilst doing viniyoga? should we always recite the stotra while sitting? sometimes i tend to walk around while mentally repeating a stotra as much as i can , it gives me great results ..!! > > also , if we were to repeate the viniyoga lines every single time , it should not be a problem i guess .... > > do i also need initiation for stotras ? i thought initiation was only the case with mantras which have beejas ! > > please guide me... > > humbly, > chandan s sabarwal. > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Chandan Ji, > > Namaste > > 1. Some stotras do not have Viniyoga lines this means in your text it has not written. But definitely some Rishi has compiled that stotra. It's Ok to read the stotra in case viniyoga is not available in the book. But in some books you can find the viniyoga of same stotra. For example in some books I have not found viniyoga of 'Aditya Hridaya Stotra' but I found viniyoga of the same in the book of Geeta Press ( two rupees price).One more thing Rishi (in viniyoga )should not be misunderstood as common meaning- sage,like Vishvamitra, Vashishth. > > This example of viniyoga of Hanumat Vadvanal Stotra will clarify- > > 'Om Asya Shri Hanumat Vadavanal Stotra Mantrasya Shri Ramchadra Rishih Shri Vadavanal Hanuman Devata Mam Samast Rog Prashamanartham Ayu Arogya Aishvarayabhi Vridhyartham Samast Pap Chhayartham Shri Sita Ramchandra Preetyartham Cha Hanumat Vadavanal Stotra Japam Aham Karishye' > > Here Rishi is Lord Ram and devata is Hanuman. Ram has discovered and mastered this stotra so he is authority of this stotra thats why he is Rishi.Here Chhanda, Beeja and Keelak is not given after devata all the things are prayojan. > > 2. You are absolutely true. Some water must be taken in right palm and after reading viniyoga must be released slowly on the ground. Take the example of hanumat vadvanal stotra,last three words Japam Aham Karishye. Means you will do the jap of that stotra and by taking water in right hand and saying those words means you have firm will and water is the witness. > > But there is difference between Sankalp and viniyoga. Ashvin navrtra will start from 19th of this month. Suppose a person is going to start the path of Durga Sapatashati, then first he will have to take the sankalp of recitation of whole saptashati ( this will include his name, gotra, month,paksha, tithi, plannetary position of that time...etc.) . There are 13 Adhyay in Saptashati. First adhyay is pratham charit and the devta of pratham charit is Mahakali and rishi is Brahma.So before the recitation of pratham charit viniyoga of pratham charit is must. Second,third and fourth adhyay is madhyam charit devata of madhyam charit is Mahalakshmi and rishi is Vishnu.So just after the completion of first charit do the viniyog of madhyam charit. From 5th to 13th adhyay is called uttar charit, devata of uttar charit is Mahasarasvati and rishi is Rudra.So just before the start of uttar charit i.e 5th adhyay do the viniyoga of uttar charit. > > I hope that examples will clarify. > > I am not from Mumbai. > > Best Regards > > Sunil > > , " chandan486 " <wavelogix+jyotishremedies@> wrote: > > > > > > sri ganeshaya namah > > > > > > dear sunil, > > > namaste. > > > > > > thanks a lot for that wonderful post and loads of information. just another 2 queries... > > > > > > 1. i have some stotras that do not have the viniyog lines. are they missing or is it okay if some stotras do not have viniyog lines? > > > > > > 2. i read in some website that water must be taken in right palm and then uttering the viniyog lines , the water must be slowly released on the ground... any idea what this is? > > > > > > btw ,are u frm mumbai?? > > > > > > > > > humble regards, > > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Chandan Ji, > > > > Let me explain the meaning and importance of viniyoga- > > > > The Viniyoga of each mantra has following components – > > > > 1. The first component is Rishi. In our Vedas it is said that " Rishayo mantra drashtarah " means they have experienced and discovered the mantras but they have not created the mantras. Since they have compiled and mastered completely to that particular mantra, so recalling the name of the rishi shows revered devotion of devotee. It is believed that worship of that rishi before the japa of mantra can give early results. > > > > 2. Second component is chhanda. Different mantras can be practiced with different combination of swaras and gati like mansika, vachika, upanshu…So chhandas are rhythmic composition of chanting the mantras. > > > > 3. Third is devata – The cosmic power to whom we are worshipping to get the desired result. > > > > 4. Fourth- Beej mantra is the tatva ( gist )of the mantra. The japa of beej mantra generates energy that is essential for activation the power of main mantra. > > > > 5. Fifth is keelakam. It is considered as key to unlock the secret of the mantra. > > > > Example- Let us see the example of Viniyoga of Bagalamukhi Kavach- > > > > Om Asya Shri Bagalamukhi Kavachasya Narad Rishih Anushtup Chhandah Bagalamukhi Devata Lam Beejam Aim Keelakam Purusharth Chatushtaye Jape Viniyogah > > > > Here Rishi is Narad, Chhand-Anushtup, Devata-Bagalamukhi, Beeja- Lam, Keelak- Aim, Sixrh component is prayojan for which we are doing the recitation of Kavach. That is pueusharth chatushtay- Dharm, Arth, Kam , Moksha. > > > > Since the Rishis are authorites of the mantra and here Rishi is Narad. So before reciting Bagalamukhi Kavach worship of Narad is advised. > > > > Also in some mantras initiation is very important part. Since we can not meet Rishis in person. But we can seek the guidance of the person who has spent his major part of life in chanting that mantra. So initiation can bring early result in fructification of the mantra. > > > > > > > > Your Nexr question is- > > > > >> > > > > for example if im reciting the stotra 27 times , every single time need to state the :jape viniyoga: lines? > > > > **As my family pandit taught and obvious from the meaning you need to do Viniyoga only once.Do the Viniyoga then recite the stotra and on second repeatition only recite the stotra.Every time you have to do the Viniyoga but only once not for repeatitions. > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > - In , " chandan486 " <wavelogix+jyotishremedies@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > sri ganeshaya namah > > > > > dear sunil, > > > > > no thanks please .. we are all here to help each other. however i just had a query with which you could maybe help me.. > > > > > > > > > > across many stotras i find couple of lines before the actual stotra starts that end with :jape viniyoga:... > > > > > > > > > > what exactly do these lines mean , where all the rishi,chhand,rishi etc are mentioned? are these lines to be recited every single time before doing the stotra? > > > > > > > > > > for example if im reciting the stotra 27 times , every single time need to state the :jape viniyoga: lines? > > > > > > > > > > also any specific rituals whilst reading the viniyog line? maybe you could also state the importance. > > > > > > > > > > i am from sikh family , so am not aware of many vedic rituals , but trying to pick up myself... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > humbly, > > > > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Suresh Ji, > > > > > > I will recite the stotra with viniyoga and nyas as given in Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam. In phalshruti of Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam it is written- > > > > > > ya asvayugmansi cha shukla pakshe, ramotsave sannihite cha bhaktya > > > > > > pathettathaikottarvarvriddhya, labhet sauvarnamayeem suvrishteem > > > > > > So on the first day I will recite one path on second day two and following the tithi 15 repeatition on poornima (total 120 repeatitions in 15 days).After that I will recite one path daily. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear sunil singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is excellent. However, if your are not reciting the stotra according to tantra - nyasa etc, you need not do the repeatation, Just recitation of Laxmi Hridaya & Narayana Hridaya will do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Suresh Ji, Chandan Ji, Krishnan Ji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for analysis of my horoscope in detail. I have no words to appreciate the kindness of the learned members of this group. > > > > > > > > I will start recitation of Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam from this Navratra (19th Sep) after initiation. Ashvin navratra is best time to start this pooja. The rule is first recite Narayan Hridayam then Lakshmi Hridayam then again Narayan Hridayam. This stotra is described in rahasya bhag of Atharvveda. The author of this stotra is Bhargav rishi. > > > > > > > > I will also worship Rahu/Ketu daily. > > > > > > > > Once again thanks to learned members Niket Ji, Gopal Raju Ji, Tripathi Ji, Chandan Ji, Suresh Ji for giving valuable input and precious time. > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krishna Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is exactly my point. The traits or field of activity / expertice gets modified as per the sign Mercury occupies and other planets it gets associated. However, The core quality of what is meant by " Nipuna " meaning profeciency / skillfull / clever/ sharp / keen / perfect / precise etc could be seen in one field or other. But this yoga need not mean that the skill or profeciency should benefit the native financialy as could be seen from the verses. Finance & Skill are two different aspects. A cobler could be skillfull in the the work he is doing and nipuna yoga can make him stand apart amoung others. But he need become rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interestingly the views of Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam (Which I suspect is borrowed from Brighu itself) is also worth considering as it places a little more importance to the placement of Sun rather than the mercury itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If any one is further interested I shall quote those also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 8, 2009 8:08:21 AM > > > > > > > > > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Suresh Ji,Mrityunjaya Ji, > > > > > > > > > let me meddle with all your permission to convey that:in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen. > > > > > > > > > mercury having no behaviour and working like sjadow palnets(?) is not palpable.But proximity to sun is a common feature which causes nipuna/budha aditya like situations,how ever right it may be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > > > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > > > > > > > > > > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, September 7, 2009, 3:15 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members & Shree Mrithyunjay Tripati ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your further insights and you are right particularly on the aspect of Mercury being being in the star of Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I beg to differ on the point of Nipuna yoga being effective only in the mercurian signs & leo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't remember any classical works making an exception on the effect of Sun+ Mercury except as per Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam where they have differentiated the effect NOT based on signs BUT on bhava in which they are placed. (kindly point out if any one has seen it so. It is not easy to search all the books in a short time). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am just quoting the relevant verses from a few authentic works. > > > > > > > > > maanasaagarii. > > > > > > > > > vidvaanaaryo raajamaanyaH > > > > > > > > > sevaashiilaH priyaMvadaH > > > > > > > > > yashasviica sthiradravyo > > > > > > > > > budhasuurya samaagame.. > > > > > > > > > yavana jataka, > > > > > > > > > suuryendau vaakyaguNairupetaM > > > > > > > > > vidvaaMsamaaryam balarupadR^iaptaM > > > > > > > > > yashorthinaM sevakamasthiraartha m > > > > > > > > > khitiishvaraaNaaM dayitaM sataaM cha.. > > > > > > > > > saraavalii.. > > > > > > > > > sevaakR^itasthiradh ano raviGYeyoH priyavachaa yashorthaH syaat > > > > > > > > > aaryaH kshitipatidayitaH sataaM cha balaruupavittavidya avaan.. > > > > > > > > > jaatakaabharaNaM. > > > > > > > > > priyavachaH sachivo bahusevayaarjitadha nashcha kalaakushalo bhavet > > > > > > > > > shrutapaTurhi naro naLiniipatau kumudiniipatisuunus amanvite. .. > > > > > > > > > varaaha horaa. > > > > > > > > > budhena nipuNam dhiikiirtisaukhyaan vitaM. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure the learned members shall understand the meaning of these verses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury offcourse aquires the qualities of the sign & planets it is associated with. So since it is in the sign of naturaly benefic Venus and aspected by Jupiter from the sign of Mercury, The effect of Nipuna Yoga cannot be discounted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even if we consider the Sage Bhrigu or Hora Ratnam, where the effect of Sun+Mercury is not good in the 8th , it is very good in 9th (from chandra lagna) and more so since Jupiter also is aspecting it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence, I feel we need not consider any exception to the rule, particularly in this case. Mercury association with other planets or vargas may add or twist the nature of yoga like in gemini, the yoga (Nipunatha) might be felt in arts while in virgo it might be felt more on education, in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is also interesting to note while we both were against wearing green emerald, the native himself has revealed that he has been wearing it and did not do much good. So, we have to assume that it proves the point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a few thoughts on the subject of Nipuna Yoga. > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > astrologer_mrutyunj ay <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay (AT) (DOT) com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, September 7, 2009 3:24:43 PM > > > > > > > > > Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice suggestions by Shree Suresh Babu Jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nipuna Yoga takes place only in the signs ruled by mercury,sun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i.e. gemini, virgo and leo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > > > > From my humble experiences > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (i) weakness or affliction of 3rd and 11th lord from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (ii) occupation of weak or afflicted planets in 3rd and 11th from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (iii) Rasi Drishti of Badhaka Planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (iv) rasi drishti upon 12th house from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are the condition for sudden physical or financial happenings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leading to physical or financial losses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreover as per stellar dispositor concepts- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mercury in the constellation of moon placed in the 12th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is not good financially > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to be strengthened for obvious reasons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards and best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I fully agree with Shree Mrinthyujay Tripati ji about Emerald may not be beneficial to you, but for a different reason, which is natural since both of us use different analytical methods. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury is 12th lord & 9th lord in the 8th from lagna and chandra lagna lord and 10th lord in the 9th from chandra lagna. So Mercury is mostly beneficial except for the 12th house lordship which is also important. However the point is it is vargottama & retrograde, hence already very powerfull. It being combust is not considered very important as per classics since Mercury never leaves the company of Sun and is mostly combust - which also confer Nipuna Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, the chart has other afflictions Such as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus + Rahu in the 6th & Jupiter + Moon +Ketu in the 12th. Jupiter is having Neecha Navamsa also. So a planet which is along with Moon giving Kesari Yoga is weak and also afflicted with Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Further Mars, 2nd house lord is also retrograde that too in its own house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder how wearing a stone shall help rectify the effects of retrograde planet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only a few case with prooven history can conform the validity of such logics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till then it would be better if the native resorts to religious remedies, particularly since Jupiter & venus are in Sama Sapthama with venus exalted & varothama. Mahala Laxmi should be propitiated to financial stabilty. Rahu / Ketu pooja should also be done along with poojas to Lord Mahadev. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As Shree Mrithyunja Tripati Ji as implied, it is upto to you to experiment with costly stones or spend a few minutes of your time to propetiate the deities. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " astrologer_ mrutyunjay " <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Testing astrology and gemstone is good > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you can financially afford it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I do not think it is wise to afford > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at the cost of one's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > loss of health/ wealth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wearing Emerlad for the native whose birth details given below > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > may lead to serious health problem/ accident/ litigations etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrological reasons : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (1) mercury is 11th lord from Arudha Lagna resperesting sudden happenings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (2)in the constellation of moon the planet ruling over 12th house from arudha lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (3)moon placed in 12th house from Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (4) mercury combust in 8th house in rasi being the 12th lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (5)mercury vargottma and in marana karaka sthana in the navamsa chart (relationships/ partnerships/ communications) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (6)Sun and mercury are closely conjunct in the 8th house. Mercury being friend of Sun is giving the result of Sun. Note the navamsa chart. Sun owns the 4th navamsa or khara navamsa counted from taurus navamsa occupied by mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does wearing of Emerlad is going to free it from sun's influence ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The more you strengthen Mercury....the more negatively and successfully > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it would act for Sun ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be better if the learned members and astrologer go with a few lines of basic analysis while suggesting or accepting gemstones for betterment of future. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May 27, 1969 > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 16:05:00 > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 3 Li 32' 00.92 " Chit 4 Li Sc > > > > > > > > > > > Sun - PK 12 Ta 32' 54.51 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar > > > > > > > > > > > Moon - MK 17 Vi 19' 35.25 " Hast 3 Vi Ge > > > > > > > > > > > Mars ® - BK 18 Sc 01' 28.23 " Jye 1 Sc Sg > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury ® - PiK 15 Ta 29' 34.04 " Rohi 2 Ta Ta > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter - DK 2 Vi 42' 47.15 " UPha 2 Vi Cp > > > > > > > > > > > Venus - AK 28 Pi 52' 27.09 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn - GK 9 Ar 54' 34.47 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu - AmK 3 Pi 25' 45.69 " UBha 1 Pi Le > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu 3 Vi 25' 45.69 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > > > > > > > > > > Maandi 24 Le 54' 27.20 " PPha 4 Le Sc > > > > > > > > > > > Gulika 13 Le 41' 22.41 " PPha 1 Le Le > > > > > > > > > > > Bhava Lagna 21 Li 03' 21.74 " Visa 1 Li Ar > > > > > > > > > > > Hora Lagna 29 Pi 59' 13.84 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gopalraju12 " <gopalraju12@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Bhai, > > > > > > > > > > > > Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > > > > > > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > > > > > > > > > Mob. : *********** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see YELLOW PAGES in the link below > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 sri ganeshaya namah dear sunil ji, thanks once again for all the knowledge. god bless!! humbly, chandan s sabarwal. , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 wrote: > > Respected Chandan Ji, > Namaste > Please find the answers- > >>is it absolutely essential to release water whilst doing viniyoga? > ** It is suggested. > >> should we > always recite the stotra while sitting? sometimes i tend to walk around while > mentally repeating a stotra as much as i can , it gives me great results ..!! > ** No. You can do mental repeatition ( without the movement of tongue ) at any time in any posture. e.g while travelling while doing any work. You can repeat mentally without having a bath . > >> if we were to repeate the viniyoga lines every single time , it should > not be a problem i guess .... > ** No problem. > >> do i also need initiation for stotras ? i thought initiation was only the case > with mantras which have beejas ! > **You are right. But some stotras also needs initiation. For example Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam that I discussed with our learned member Suresh Ji needs initiation. Since it is described in rahasya bhag of Atharva Veda. Such secret stotras should not be recited without initiation. > I hope this helps. > Best Regards > Sunil > > , " chandan486 " <wavelogix+jyotishremedies@> wrote: > > > > sri ganeshaya namah > > > > dear sunil ji, > > namaste. thanks a lotf for the wonderful information once again . you seem to be very knowledgebale as far as these stotras are concerened. > > > > however . im currently doing brihaspati stotram from skand purana. > > > > is it absolutely essential to release water whilst doing viniyoga? should we always recite the stotra while sitting? sometimes i tend to walk around while mentally repeating a stotra as much as i can , it gives me great results ..!! > > > > also , if we were to repeate the viniyoga lines every single time , it should not be a problem i guess .... > > > > do i also need initiation for stotras ? i thought initiation was only the case with mantras which have beejas ! > > > > please guide me... > > > > humbly, > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Respected Chandan Ji, > > > Namaste > > > 1. Some stotras do not have Viniyoga lines this means in your text it has not written. But definitely some Rishi has compiled that stotra. It's Ok to read the stotra in case viniyoga is not available in the book. But in some books you can find the viniyoga of same stotra. For example in some books I have not found viniyoga of 'Aditya Hridaya Stotra' but I found viniyoga of the same in the book of Geeta Press ( two rupees price).One more thing Rishi (in viniyoga )should not be misunderstood as common meaning- sage,like Vishvamitra, Vashishth. > > > This example of viniyoga of Hanumat Vadvanal Stotra will clarify- > > > 'Om Asya Shri Hanumat Vadavanal Stotra Mantrasya Shri Ramchadra Rishih Shri Vadavanal Hanuman Devata Mam Samast Rog Prashamanartham Ayu Arogya Aishvarayabhi Vridhyartham Samast Pap Chhayartham Shri Sita Ramchandra Preetyartham Cha Hanumat Vadavanal Stotra Japam Aham Karishye' > > > Here Rishi is Lord Ram and devata is Hanuman. Ram has discovered and mastered this stotra so he is authority of this stotra thats why he is Rishi.Here Chhanda, Beeja and Keelak is not given after devata all the things are prayojan. > > > 2. You are absolutely true. Some water must be taken in right palm and after reading viniyoga must be released slowly on the ground. Take the example of hanumat vadvanal stotra,last three words Japam Aham Karishye. Means you will do the jap of that stotra and by taking water in right hand and saying those words means you have firm will and water is the witness. > > > But there is difference between Sankalp and viniyoga. Ashvin navrtra will start from 19th of this month. Suppose a person is going to start the path of Durga Sapatashati, then first he will have to take the sankalp of recitation of whole saptashati ( this will include his name, gotra, month,paksha, tithi, plannetary position of that time...etc.) . There are 13 Adhyay in Saptashati. First adhyay is pratham charit and the devta of pratham charit is Mahakali and rishi is Brahma.So before the recitation of pratham charit viniyoga of pratham charit is must. Second,third and fourth adhyay is madhyam charit devata of madhyam charit is Mahalakshmi and rishi is Vishnu.So just after the completion of first charit do the viniyog of madhyam charit. From 5th to 13th adhyay is called uttar charit, devata of uttar charit is Mahasarasvati and rishi is Rudra.So just before the start of uttar charit i.e 5th adhyay do the viniyoga of uttar charit. > > > I hope that examples will clarify. > > > I am not from Mumbai. > > > Best Regards > > > Sunil > > > , " chandan486 " <wavelogix+jyotishremedies@> wrote: > > > > > > > > sri ganeshaya namah > > > > > > > > dear sunil, > > > > namaste. > > > > > > > > thanks a lot for that wonderful post and loads of information. just another 2 queries... > > > > > > > > 1. i have some stotras that do not have the viniyog lines. are they missing or is it okay if some stotras do not have viniyog lines? > > > > > > > > 2. i read in some website that water must be taken in right palm and then uttering the viniyog lines , the water must be slowly released on the ground... any idea what this is? > > > > > > > > btw ,are u frm mumbai?? > > > > > > > > > > > > humble regards, > > > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Chandan Ji, > > > > > Let me explain the meaning and importance of viniyoga- > > > > > The Viniyoga of each mantra has following components – > > > > > 1. The first component is Rishi. In our Vedas it is said that " Rishayo mantra drashtarah " means they have experienced and discovered the mantras but they have not created the mantras. Since they have compiled and mastered completely to that particular mantra, so recalling the name of the rishi shows revered devotion of devotee. It is believed that worship of that rishi before the japa of mantra can give early results. > > > > > 2. Second component is chhanda. Different mantras can be practiced with different combination of swaras and gati like mansika, vachika, upanshu…So chhandas are rhythmic composition of chanting the mantras. > > > > > 3. Third is devata – The cosmic power to whom we are worshipping to get the desired result. > > > > > 4. Fourth- Beej mantra is the tatva ( gist )of the mantra. The japa of beej mantra generates energy that is essential for activation the power of main mantra. > > > > > 5. Fifth is keelakam. It is considered as key to unlock the secret of the mantra. > > > > > Example- Let us see the example of Viniyoga of Bagalamukhi Kavach- > > > > > Om Asya Shri Bagalamukhi Kavachasya Narad Rishih Anushtup Chhandah Bagalamukhi Devata Lam Beejam Aim Keelakam Purusharth Chatushtaye Jape Viniyogah > > > > > Here Rishi is Narad, Chhand-Anushtup, Devata-Bagalamukhi, Beeja- Lam, Keelak- Aim, Sixrh component is prayojan for which we are doing the recitation of Kavach. That is pueusharth chatushtay- Dharm, Arth, Kam , Moksha. > > > > > Since the Rishis are authorites of the mantra and here Rishi is Narad. So before reciting Bagalamukhi Kavach worship of Narad is advised. > > > > > Also in some mantras initiation is very important part. Since we can not meet Rishis in person. But we can seek the guidance of the person who has spent his major part of life in chanting that mantra. So initiation can bring early result in fructification of the mantra. > > > > > > > > > > Your Nexr question is- > > > > > >> > > > > > for example if im reciting the stotra 27 times , every single time need to state the :jape viniyoga: lines? > > > > > **As my family pandit taught and obvious from the meaning you need to do Viniyoga only once.Do the Viniyoga then recite the stotra and on second repeatition only recite the stotra.Every time you have to do the Viniyoga but only once not for repeatitions. > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - In , " chandan486 " <wavelogix+jyotishremedies@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > sri ganeshaya namah > > > > > > dear sunil, > > > > > > no thanks please .. we are all here to help each other. however i just had a query with which you could maybe help me.. > > > > > > > > > > > > across many stotras i find couple of lines before the actual stotra starts that end with :jape viniyoga:... > > > > > > > > > > > > what exactly do these lines mean , where all the rishi,chhand,rishi etc are mentioned? are these lines to be recited every single time before doing the stotra? > > > > > > > > > > > > for example if im reciting the stotra 27 times , every single time need to state the :jape viniyoga: lines? > > > > > > > > > > > > also any specific rituals whilst reading the viniyog line? maybe you could also state the importance. > > > > > > > > > > > > i am from sikh family , so am not aware of many vedic rituals , but trying to pick up myself... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > humbly, > > > > > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Suresh Ji, > > > > > > > I will recite the stotra with viniyoga and nyas as given in Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam. In phalshruti of Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam it is written- > > > > > > > ya asvayugmansi cha shukla pakshe, ramotsave sannihite cha bhaktya > > > > > > > pathettathaikottarvarvriddhya, labhet sauvarnamayeem suvrishteem > > > > > > > So on the first day I will recite one path on second day two and following the tithi 15 repeatition on poornima (total 120 repeatitions in 15 days).After that I will recite one path daily. > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear sunil singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is excellent. However, if your are not reciting the stotra according to tantra - nyasa etc, you need not do the repeatation, Just recitation of Laxmi Hridaya & Narayana Hridaya will do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Suresh Ji, Chandan Ji, Krishnan Ji, > > > > > > > > > Thanks for analysis of my horoscope in detail. I have no words to appreciate the kindness of the learned members of this group. > > > > > > > > > I will start recitation of Lakshmi Narayan Hridayam from this Navratra (19th Sep) after initiation. Ashvin navratra is best time to start this pooja. The rule is first recite Narayan Hridayam then Lakshmi Hridayam then again Narayan Hridayam. This stotra is described in rahasya bhag of Atharvveda. The author of this stotra is Bhargav rishi. > > > > > > > > > I will also worship Rahu/Ketu daily. > > > > > > > > > Once again thanks to learned members Niket Ji, Gopal Raju Ji, Tripathi Ji, Chandan Ji, Suresh Ji for giving valuable input and precious time. > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krishna Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is exactly my point. The traits or field of activity / expertice gets modified as per the sign Mercury occupies and other planets it gets associated. However, The core quality of what is meant by " Nipuna " meaning profeciency / skillfull / clever/ sharp / keen / perfect / precise etc could be seen in one field or other. But this yoga need not mean that the skill or profeciency should benefit the native financialy as could be seen from the verses. Finance & Skill are two different aspects. A cobler could be skillfull in the the work he is doing and nipuna yoga can make him stand apart amoung others. But he need become rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interestingly the views of Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam (Which I suspect is borrowed from Brighu itself) is also worth considering as it places a little more importance to the placement of Sun rather than the mercury itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If any one is further interested I shall quote those also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 8, 2009 8:08:21 AM > > > > > > > > > > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Suresh Ji,Mrityunjaya Ji, > > > > > > > > > > let me meddle with all your permission to convey that:in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. good wrestlers,boxers and eminent cricketers are also seen. > > > > > > > > > > mercury having no behaviour and working like sjadow palnets(?) is not palpable.But proximity to sun is a common feature which causes nipuna/budha aditya like situations,how ever right it may be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > > > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > > > > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, September 7, 2009, 3:15 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members & Shree Mrithyunjay Tripati ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your further insights and you are right particularly on the aspect of Mercury being being in the star of Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I beg to differ on the point of Nipuna yoga being effective only in the mercurian signs & leo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't remember any classical works making an exception on the effect of Sun+ Mercury except as per Sage Brighu & Hora Ratnam where they have differentiated the effect NOT based on signs BUT on bhava in which they are placed. (kindly point out if any one has seen it so. It is not easy to search all the books in a short time). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am just quoting the relevant verses from a few authentic works. > > > > > > > > > > maanasaagarii. > > > > > > > > > > vidvaanaaryo raajamaanyaH > > > > > > > > > > sevaashiilaH priyaMvadaH > > > > > > > > > > yashasviica sthiradravyo > > > > > > > > > > budhasuurya samaagame.. > > > > > > > > > > yavana jataka, > > > > > > > > > > suuryendau vaakyaguNairupetaM > > > > > > > > > > vidvaaMsamaaryam balarupadR^iaptaM > > > > > > > > > > yashorthinaM sevakamasthiraartha m > > > > > > > > > > khitiishvaraaNaaM dayitaM sataaM cha.. > > > > > > > > > > saraavalii.. > > > > > > > > > > sevaakR^itasthiradh ano raviGYeyoH priyavachaa yashorthaH syaat > > > > > > > > > > aaryaH kshitipatidayitaH sataaM cha balaruupavittavidya avaan.. > > > > > > > > > > jaatakaabharaNaM. > > > > > > > > > > priyavachaH sachivo bahusevayaarjitadha nashcha kalaakushalo bhavet > > > > > > > > > > shrutapaTurhi naro naLiniipatau kumudiniipatisuunus amanvite. . > > > > > > > > > > varaaha horaa. > > > > > > > > > > budhena nipuNam dhiikiirtisaukhyaan vitaM. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure the learned members shall understand the meaning of these verses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury offcourse aquires the qualities of the sign & planets it is associated with. So since it is in the sign of naturaly benefic Venus and aspected by Jupiter from the sign of Mercury, The effect of Nipuna Yoga cannot be discounted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even if we consider the Sage Bhrigu or Hora Ratnam, where the effect of Sun+Mercury is not good in the 8th , it is very good in 9th (from chandra lagna) and more so since Jupiter also is aspecting it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence, I feel we need not consider any exception to the rule, particularly in this case. Mercury association with other planets or vargas may add or twist the nature of yoga like in gemini, the yoga (Nipunatha) might be felt in arts while in virgo it might be felt more on education, in martian signs in engineering or science subjects etc etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is also interesting to note while we both were against wearing green emerald, the native himself has revealed that he has been wearing it and did not do much good. So, we have to assume that it proves the point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a few thoughts on the subject of Nipuna Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > > astrologer_mrutyunj ay <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay (AT) (DOT) com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, September 7, 2009 3:24:43 PM > > > > > > > > > > Re: (Gopal Raju for Sunil) Suitable Gemstone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice suggestions by Shree Suresh Babu Jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nipuna Yoga takes place only in the signs ruled by mercury,sun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i.e. gemini, virgo and leo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > > > > > From my humble experiences > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (i) weakness or affliction of 3rd and 11th lord from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (ii) occupation of weak or afflicted planets in 3rd and 11th from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (iii) Rasi Drishti of Badhaka Planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (iv) rasi drishti upon 12th house from Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are the condition for sudden physical or financial happenings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leading to physical or financial losses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreover as per stellar dispositor concepts- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mercury in the constellation of moon placed in the 12th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is not good financially > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to be strengthened for obvious reasons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards and best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I fully agree with Shree Mrinthyujay Tripati ji about Emerald may not be beneficial to you, but for a different reason, which is natural since both of us use different analytical methods. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury is 12th lord & 9th lord in the 8th from lagna and chandra lagna lord and 10th lord in the 9th from chandra lagna. So Mercury is mostly beneficial except for the 12th house lordship which is also important. However the point is it is vargottama & retrograde, hence already very powerfull. It being combust is not considered very important as per classics since Mercury never leaves the company of Sun and is mostly combust - which also confer Nipuna Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, the chart has other afflictions Such as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus + Rahu in the 6th & Jupiter + Moon +Ketu in the 12th. Jupiter is having Neecha Navamsa also. So a planet which is along with Moon giving Kesari Yoga is weak and also afflicted with Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Further Mars, 2nd house lord is also retrograde that too in its own house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder how wearing a stone shall help rectify the effects of retrograde planet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only a few case with prooven history can conform the validity of such logics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till then it would be better if the native resorts to religious remedies, particularly since Jupiter & venus are in Sama Sapthama with venus exalted & varothama. Mahala Laxmi should be propitiated to financial stabilty. Rahu / Ketu pooja should also be done along with poojas to Lord Mahadev. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As Shree Mrithyunja Tripati Ji as implied, it is upto to you to experiment with costly stones or spend a few minutes of your time to propetiate the deities. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " astrologer_ mrutyunjay " <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Testing astrology and gemstone is good > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you can financially afford it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I do not think it is wise to afford > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at the cost of one's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > loss of health/ wealth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wearing Emerlad for the native whose birth details given below > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > may lead to serious health problem/ accident/ litigations etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrological reasons : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (1) mercury is 11th lord from Arudha Lagna resperesting sudden happenings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (2)in the constellation of moon the planet ruling over 12th house from arudha lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (3)moon placed in 12th house from Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (4) mercury combust in 8th house in rasi being the 12th lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (5)mercury vargottma and in marana karaka sthana in the navamsa chart (relationships/ partnerships/ communications) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (6)Sun and mercury are closely conjunct in the 8th house. Mercury being friend of Sun is giving the result of Sun. Note the navamsa chart. Sun owns the 4th navamsa or khara navamsa counted from taurus navamsa occupied by mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does wearing of Emerlad is going to free it from sun's influence ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The more you strengthen Mercury....the more negatively and successfully > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it would act for Sun ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be better if the learned members and astrologer go with a few lines of basic analysis while suggesting or accepting gemstones for betterment of future. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May 27, 1969 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 16:05:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 3 Li 32' 00.92 " Chit 4 Li Sc > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun - PK 12 Ta 32' 54.51 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon - MK 17 Vi 19' 35.25 " Hast 3 Vi Ge > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars ® - BK 18 Sc 01' 28.23 " Jye 1 Sc Sg > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury ® - PiK 15 Ta 29' 34.04 " Rohi 2 Ta Ta > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter - DK 2 Vi 42' 47.15 " UPha 2 Vi Cp > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus - AK 28 Pi 52' 27.09 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn - GK 9 Ar 54' 34.47 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu - AmK 3 Pi 25' 45.69 " UBha 1 Pi Le > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu 3 Vi 25' 45.69 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > > > > > > > > > > > Maandi 24 Le 54' 27.20 " PPha 4 Le Sc > > > > > > > > > > > > Gulika 13 Le 41' 22.41 " PPha 1 Le Le > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhava Lagna 21 Li 03' 21.74 " Visa 1 Li Ar > > > > > > > > > > > > Hora Lagna 29 Pi 59' 13.84 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gopalraju12 " <gopalraju12@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Bhai, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wear Kakaneeli+Emrald in one silver ring in the ring finger of the right hand. This would be the best combination for you. PLz remember that instead of quality, cost, weight etc. the auspetious time/muhurtha is more important to get maximum benefic results through gemstones. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal Raju > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scientist and Occultist > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mob. : *********** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see YELLOW PAGES in the link below > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunilsingh20022001 " <sunilsingh20022001 @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please suggest me gemstone that can give me professional growth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birth details- 27th May 1969, Time 16.05 IST, Place-Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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