Guest guest Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Dear Sanjay.If your birth time is taken 2:41AM ,your ascendant comes Libra at 29 Degree 53Minutes 30Seconds.In this situation Your 4th house lord Sani is posited in 8th house and it is retrograde and besides this by progression Saturn had been posited in Leo Sign that is 8th from 4th house so you had to suffer on that count.Besides this your Jupiter-Sun Dasa had been effective from 26-12-2008 to 14-10-2009 and sublord of sun is saturn.This result suites you at present also.Sani(Saturn) has been posited in Leo for last 30 months.In this condition you should have helpfull good brothers and sisters also. Your birth time if taken 2:46AM,then your ascendant may be Scorpio at 1 Degree.In this condition your present condition is in question? Your financial condition should not have been worst.You should have two wheeler or 4 wheeler Vehicle. In this condition you should not have helpfull good brothers and sisters also. Confirm which time is suitable 2:41AM or 2:46AM and scorpio Lagna.If you confirm,you may be told remedy and analysis. Dhirendra Nath Misra --- On Fri, 9/18/09, sanjay_1972 <srsc wrote: sanjay_1972 <srsc i want to know about my kundali Friday, September 18, 2009, 1:34 PM pranam sir as my DOB is:18/01/1972 time of birth is 02:41 a.m., place of birth is nasik,maharashtra, india. since last 2 & 1/2 yrs i am facing problem in business, i m not able to concentrate properly on business as i am getting very much depress, i have gone to many astrologers some sy i am having shani dhaiya, some say i am having rahu dasha. i dont understant what to do in future life. one more thing i would like to add that my ascendant sign is scorpio, and moon sign is capricorn. request you to plz guide me remedy for my problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Dear Dhirendra ji, Namasthe, I am writing this out of academic interest. Could you possibly show us how you arrive at correct TOB as per KP system?. I am asking since you mentioned about possible difference. with regards A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra Friday, September 18, 2009 9:11:15 PM Re: i want to know about my kundali Dear Sanjay.If your birth time is taken 2:41AM ,your ascendant comes Libra at 29 Degree 53Minutes 30Seconds.In this situation Your 4th house lord Sani is posited in 8th house and it is retrograde and besides this by progression Saturn had been posited in Leo Sign that is 8th from 4th house so you had to suffer on that count.Besides this your Jupiter-Sun Dasa had been effective from 26-12-2008 to 14-10-2009 and sublord of sun is saturn.This result suites you at present also.Sani(Saturn) has been posited in Leo for last 30 months.In this condition you should have helpfull good brothers and sisters also. Your birth time if taken 2:46AM,then your ascendant may be Scorpio at 1 Degree.In this condition your present condition is in question? Your financial condition should not have been worst.You should have two wheeler or 4 wheeler Vehicle. In this condition you should not have helpfull good brothers and sisters also. Confirm which time is suitable 2:41AM or 2:46AM and scorpio Lagna.If you confirm,you may be told remedy and analysis. Dhirendra Nath Misra --- On Fri, 9/18/09, sanjay_1972@ rocketmail. com <srsc (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> wrote: sanjay_1972@ rocketmail. com <srsc (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> i want to know about my kundali Friday, September 18, 2009, 1:34 PM pranam sir as my DOB is:18/01/1972 time of birth is 02:41 a.m., place of birth is nasik,maharashtra, india. since last 2 & 1/2 yrs i am facing problem in business, i m not able to concentrate properly on business as i am getting very much depress, i have gone to many astrologers some sy i am having shani dhaiya, some say i am having rahu dasha. i dont understant what to do in future life. one more thing i would like to add that my ascendant sign is scorpio, and moon sign is capricorn. request you to plz guide me remedy for my problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Respected Sir,Sadar Namaskar,Sir It is not the case of birth rectification.The querist has informed that his ascendant is Scorpio at 2:41AM on 18-01-1972.But it is incorrect.Actually his Ascendant is Libra at 29/53/30 and the result is correct according to his condition. If I take Scorpio it may be acceptable latest by 02:46 AM only as it takes hardly 5 minutes to take out the baby from mother's womb and crying of baby.The life begins when the baby inhales while crying Amma or any other form of sound.so for K.p is concerned,we have to take the rulling planet at the time of judgement.Then in that sign select the constellation and sub governed by the ruling planet.Then,this is the exact position of the lagna.Only the rulling planet at the moment of judgement will be useful and innumerable instance are given in the magazine ''Astrology & Athrishta''.I am not well adept in rectification of birth time.Please write an article on this point,If it is easily understandable by the general readers. I again pariticipated today in quiz held by K.P.forum and they published my analysis and result is yet to be announced.The query was thus-comment on this person & personality who was born on 25-04-1957 at 6AM,latitude is given 18:59E,Longitude 75:50E.Let the result come.I will tell you.With regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra --- On Fri, 9/18/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote: Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag Re: i want to know about my kundali Friday, September 18, 2009, 5:20 PM Dear Dhirendra ji, Namasthe, I am writing this out of academic interest. Could you possibly show us how you arrive at correct TOB as per KP system?. I am asking since you mentioned about possible difference. with regards A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> Friday, September 18, 2009 9:11:15 PM Re: i want to know about my kundali Dear Sanjay.If your birth time is taken 2:41AM ,your ascendant comes Libra at 29 Degree 53Minutes 30Seconds.In this situation Your 4th house lord Sani is posited in 8th house and it is retrograde and besides this by progression Saturn had been posited in Leo Sign that is 8th from 4th house so you had to suffer on that count.Besides this your Jupiter-Sun Dasa had been effective from 26-12-2008 to 14-10-2009 and sublord of sun is saturn.This result suites you at present also.Sani(Saturn) has been posited in Leo for last 30 months.In this condition you should have helpfull good brothers and sisters also. Your birth time if taken 2:46AM,then your ascendant may be Scorpio at 1 Degree.In this condition your present condition is in question? Your financial condition should not have been worst.You should have two wheeler or 4 wheeler Vehicle. In this condition you should not have helpfull good brothers and sisters also. Confirm which time is suitable 2:41AM or 2:46AM and scorpio Lagna.If you confirm,you may be told remedy and analysis. Dhirendra Nath Misra --- On Fri, 9/18/09, sanjay_1972@ rocketmail. com <srsc (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> wrote: sanjay_1972@ rocketmail. com <srsc (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> i want to know about my kundali Friday, September 18, 2009, 1:34 PM pranam sir as my DOB is:18/01/1972 time of birth is 02:41 a.m., place of birth is nasik,maharashtra, india. since last 2 & 1/2 yrs i am facing problem in business, i m not able to concentrate properly on business as i am getting very much depress, i have gone to many astrologers some sy i am having shani dhaiya, some say i am having rahu dasha. i dont understant what to do in future life. one more thing i would like to add that my ascendant sign is scorpio, and moon sign is capricorn. request you to plz guide me remedy for my problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Dear friend, You are presently running Jupiter-Sun period. Both planets are in Rasi Sandhi. sun is debilitated in dasamsa chart indicating lot of money blocked in business credit. Since jupiter is also weak in transit and also progressing over leo rasi in RBV Dasa you are in strong need of eliminating credit/personal loans to people to save your business. Try with all your intelligence to get the blocked money back. Regular worship of Sun God /Lord Shiva would be beneficial. Regards, Mrutyunjay Tripathy (Consultancy out of group is not free) Natal Chart January 18, 1972 Time: 2:41:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 73 E 53' 00 " , 20 N 20' 00 " Nasik, India Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Virodha-krit - Magha Tithi: Sukla Dwitiya (Mo) (50.61% left) Vedic Weekday: Monday (Mo) Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (14.99% left) Yoga: Siddhi (Ma) (64.44% left) Karana: Balava (Mo) (1.21% left) Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Vi) Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Cn) Kaala Lord: Moon (Mahakala: Rahu) Sunrise: 7:16:52 (January 17) Sunset: 18:11:55 (January 17) Janma Ghatis: 48.5055 Ayanamsa: 23-27-56.47 Sidereal Time: 9:52:07 Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa Lagna 29 Li 47' 45.48 " Visa 3 Li Ge Sun - GK 3 Cp 24' 25.00 " USha 3 Cp Aq Moon - AK 21 Cp 20' 03.63 " Srav 4 Cp Cn Mars - AmK 20 Pi 55' 16.66 " Reva 2 Pi Cp Mercury - MK 15 Sg 06' 42.72 " PSha 1 Sg Le Jupiter - DK 2 Sg 33' 03.69 " Mool 1 Sg Ar Venus - PiK 8 Aq 06' 09.76 " Sata 1 Aq Sg Saturn ® - PK 6 Ta 15' 36.19 " Krit 3 Ta Aq Rahu - BK 12 Cp 16' 09.18 " Srav 1 Cp Ar Ketu 12 Cn 16' 09.18 " Push 3 Cn Li Maandi 6 Le 06' 14.01 " Magh 2 Le Ta Vimsottari Dasa: Jup MD: 1998-07-20 (2:01:05) - 2014-07-20 (4:29:40) Sun AD: 2009-01-29 (3:15:16) - 2009-11-19 (13:11:33) Pratyantardasas in this AD: Sun: 2009-01-29 (3:15:16) - 2009-02-12 (8:16:55) Moon: 2009-02-12 (8:16:55) - 2009-03-08 (4:43:47) Mars: 2009-03-08 (4:43:47) - 2009-03-25 (1:35:35) Rah: 2009-03-25 (1:35:35) - 2009-05-08 (4:25:45) Jup: 2009-05-08 (4:25:45) - 2009-06-17 (4:22:55) Sat: 2009-06-17 (4:22:55) - 2009-08-03 (23:25:10) Merc: 2009-08-03 (23:25:10) - 2009-09-15 (6:17:07) Ket: 2009-09-15 (6:17:07) - 2009-10-02 (9:57:35) Ven: 2009-10-02 (9:57:35) - 2009-11-19 (13:11:33) , " sanjay_1972 " <srsc wrote: > > pranam sir > as my DOB is:18/01/1972 time of birth is 02:41 a.m., place of birth is nasik,maharashtra,india. since last 2 & 1/2 yrs i am facing problem in business, i m not able to concentrate properly on business as i am getting very much depress, i have gone to many astrologers some sy i am having shani dhaiya, some say i am having rahu dasha. i dont understant what to do in future life. one more thing i would like to add that my ascendant sign is scorpio, and moon sign is capricorn. > request you to plz guide me remedy for my problem. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Dear Dhirendra nath ji, //If I take Scorpio it may be acceptable latest by 02:46 AM only as it takes hardly 5 minutes to take out the baby from mother's womb and crying of baby.The life begins when the baby inhales while crying Amma or any other form of sound.so for K.p is concerned,we have to take the rulling planet at the time of judgement// pls refer the above statement. I have seen this and wondered about it. lagna is the time when the baby first cries? Have you given any thought on this? In reality there are many cases where a baby does not cry for hours after birth and nurses try hard to make them cry - even harsh methods like pinching etc. But the truth is medicaly a newly born baby is believed to not to feel pain. So if the baby does not cry for an hour or two, will the KP consider the later time (after two hrs ) or the time of birth- when the baby came out?. what if the child born is dumb?. will you say (KP) that the child is never born?. Practically & medically crying of the baby is only a sign of health and that atleast some of functions are normal. I think it is a total misunderstanding or misinterpretation of what Shree Krishnamoorthy might have tried to convey. Simply because it is illlogical. pls Think about it. I am not trying to bashing of KP. Just pointing to a theory or rather a statement that does not have logic. Birth or Lagna is akin to Udaya - that rises (not cries). It is similar to sun rise - suryodaya. The only controvercy here that whether sun rise should be considered when tip of the surya bimba rises above the horizon or whether it should be when the full circle is above. There is also an argument about the halo of sun. There is lot of similarity in the birth of a child and that of sun the birth could be considered when we see the hair on the head or when when the head come out first or when the full body comes out. here the argument is valid when we consider prishtodaya - birth with legs first comming out. In that case, the body should be naturaly outside for the head to be see - A phenomena that does not happen with Sun. However the whole process takes only a minute or two. But with sun it could be slightly longer due to distance factor and the size of the sun. In traditional astrology we employ some methods such as " Kunda kriya " to correct lagna. I was actually hoping that you could give provide any mathematical process if existing in KP. Personaly I employ a combination of methods but is difficult without the active participation of the native with lot more facts than he might provide on the internet. That is the reason we rarely use it here. In this case, the only pointer he has provided conclusively is that he suffered since the last 2 1/2 years and that his name is sanjay(which we are not sure enough-many don't divulge their true name). That means he started suffering when saturn was transiting through Karkata - his 7th house and to the 8th. Jupiter though in the 11nth was retrograde. hence the suffering could be due to transit of planets also. However I find that if we adjust the time by 5 minutes - lagna off course changes to scorpio, Kalachakra dasa starts with karkata sign at about 2 1/2 years back and with the time he provided it start around 2005. But then, we need more facts to come to a conclusion. The native has only mentioned about financial difficulties - natual when we think 2nd house aspected by saturn from the 8th house. But if we consider Scorpio as lagna, what will the same Saturn do to his family life being in the 7th?. In kalachakra dasa, chidra or antardasa changes with a difference of even a minute whle vimsottari it might take much longer time unless one goes as low as prana / sookshma etc. This is the reason why I choose Kala chakra - and Kala is time also. In reality does it matter which is the lagna here if we consider bhava? Birth time correction is far more complex and time consuming. Birth at a particular time is destined and no one can change it (doctors try- but even that is destined). Hope you shall take this in good stead. I must appologise to sanjay for indulging in this discussion, but felt worthwile to come to a conclusion about the birth time for your own good. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra Saturday, September 19, 2009 2:02:14 AM Re: i want to know about my kundali Respected Sir,Sadar Namaskar,Sir It is not the case of birth rectification. The querist has informed that his ascendant is Scorpio at 2:41AM on 18-01-1972.But it is incorrect.Actually his Ascendant is Libra at 29/53/30 and the result is correct according to his condition. If I take Scorpio it may be acceptable latest by 02:46 AM only as it takes hardly 5 minutes to take out the baby from mother's womb and crying of baby.The life begins when the baby inhales while crying Amma or any other form of sound.so for K.p is concerned,we have to take the rulling planet at the time of judgement.Then in that sign select the constellation and sub governed by the ruling planet.Then, this is the exact position of the lagna.Only the rulling planet at the moment of judgement will be useful and innumerable instance are given in the magazine ''Astrology & Athrishta''. I am not well adept in rectification of birth time.Please write an article on this point,If it is easily understandable by the general readers. I again pariticipated today in quiz held by K.P.forum and they published my analysis and result is yet to be announced.The query was thus-comment on this person & personality who was born on 25-04-1957 at 6AM,latitude is given 18:59E,Longitude 75:50E.Let the result come.I will tell you.With regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra --- On Fri, 9/18/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Re: i want to know about my kundali Friday, September 18, 2009, 5:20 PM Dear Dhirendra ji, Namasthe, I am writing this out of academic interest. Could you possibly show us how you arrive at correct TOB as per KP system?. I am asking since you mentioned about possible difference. with regards A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> Friday, September 18, 2009 9:11:15 PM Re: i want to know about my kundali Dear Sanjay.If your birth time is taken 2:41AM ,your ascendant comes Libra at 29 Degree 53Minutes 30Seconds.In this situation Your 4th house lord Sani is posited in 8th house and it is retrograde and besides this by progression Saturn had been posited in Leo Sign that is 8th from 4th house so you had to suffer on that count.Besides this your Jupiter-Sun Dasa had been effective from 26-12-2008 to 14-10-2009 and sublord of sun is saturn.This result suites you at present also.Sani(Saturn) has been posited in Leo for last 30 months.In this condition you should have helpfull good brothers and sisters also. Your birth time if taken 2:46AM,then your ascendant may be Scorpio at 1 Degree.In this condition your present condition is in question? Your financial condition should not have been worst.You should have two wheeler or 4 wheeler Vehicle. In this condition you should not have helpfull good brothers and sisters also. Confirm which time is suitable 2:41AM or 2:46AM and scorpio Lagna.If you confirm,you may be told remedy and analysis. Dhirendra Nath Misra --- On Fri, 9/18/09, sanjay_1972@ rocketmail. com <srsc (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> wrote: sanjay_1972@ rocketmail. com <srsc (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> i want to know about my kundali Friday, September 18, 2009, 1:34 PM pranam sir as my DOB is:18/01/1972 time of birth is 02:41 a.m., place of birth is nasik,maharashtra, india. since last 2 & 1/2 yrs i am facing problem in business, i m not able to concentrate properly on business as i am getting very much depress, i have gone to many astrologers some sy i am having shani dhaiya, some say i am having rahu dasha. i dont understant what to do in future life. one more thing i would like to add that my ascendant sign is scorpio, and moon sign is capricorn. request you to plz guide me remedy for my problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Respected Sir,Good Evening, // .The life begins when the baby inhales // I had to say that the life begins when the baby inhales .I t is immaterial whether baby cries or baby is dumb.That is the birth time when baby inhales or baby is born dead when it is taken out from the mother's womb.In the case of sanjay at 2:41AM time on 18.01.1972,place Nasik,Maharastra the ascendant comes Libra at 29/53/30 and not scorpio.I use Geo Vision Parasar Light 6.1 Software to cast any horoscope and I believe that it is correct.If by error the ascendant is taken scorpio the present condition does not match with the condition of Mr.Sanjay.This was all about my analysis and nothing else and I have already told you that this is not the case of rectification of birth time.what K.P says on this point is not disputable as K.S.K had been a gifted astrologer of his time.With regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra --- On Sat, 9/19/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote: Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag Re: i want to know about my kundali Saturday, September 19, 2009, 6:29 PM Dear Dhirendra nath ji, //If I take Scorpio it may be acceptable latest by 02:46 AM only as it takes hardly 5 minutes to take out the baby from mother's womb and crying of baby.The life begins when the baby inhales while crying Amma or any other form of sound.so for K.p is concerned,we have to take the rulling planet at the time of judgement// pls refer the above statement. I have seen this and wondered about it. lagna is the time when the baby first cries? Have you given any thought on this? In reality there are many cases where a baby does not cry for hours after birth and nurses try hard to make them cry - even harsh methods like pinching etc. But the truth is medicaly a newly born baby is believed to not to feel pain. So if the baby does not cry for an hour or two, will the KP consider the later time (after two hrs ) or the time of birth- when the baby came out?. what if the child born is dumb?. will you say (KP) that the child is never born?. Practically & medically crying of the baby is only a sign of health and that atleast some of functions are normal. I think it is a total misunderstanding or misinterpretation of what Shree Krishnamoorthy might have tried to convey. Simply because it is illlogical. pls Think about it. I am not trying to bashing of KP. Just pointing to a theory or rather a statement that does not have logic. Birth or Lagna is akin to Udaya - that rises (not cries). It is similar to sun rise - suryodaya. The only controvercy here that whether sun rise should be considered when tip of the surya bimba rises above the horizon or whether it should be when the full circle is above. There is also an argument about the halo of sun. There is lot of similarity in the birth of a child and that of sun the birth could be considered when we see the hair on the head or when when the head come out first or when the full body comes out. here the argument is valid when we consider prishtodaya - birth with legs first comming out. In that case, the body should be naturaly outside for the head to be see - A phenomena that does not happen with Sun. However the whole process takes only a minute or two. But with sun it could be slightly longer due to distance factor and the size of the sun. In traditional astrology we employ some methods such as " Kunda kriya " to correct lagna. I was actually hoping that you could give provide any mathematical process if existing in KP. Personaly I employ a combination of methods but is difficult without the active participation of the native with lot more facts than he might provide on the internet. That is the reason we rarely use it here. In this case, the only pointer he has provided conclusively is that he suffered since the last 2 1/2 years and that his name is sanjay(which we are not sure enough-many don't divulge their true name). That means he started suffering when saturn was transiting through Karkata - his 7th house and to the 8th. Jupiter though in the 11nth was retrograde. hence the suffering could be due to transit of planets also. However I find that if we adjust the time by 5 minutes - lagna off course changes to scorpio, Kalachakra dasa starts with karkata sign at about 2 1/2 years back and with the time he provided it start around 2005. But then, we need more facts to come to a conclusion. The native has only mentioned about financial difficulties - natual when we think 2nd house aspected by saturn from the 8th house. But if we consider Scorpio as lagna, what will the same Saturn do to his family life being in the 7th?. In kalachakra dasa, chidra or antardasa changes with a difference of even a minute whle vimsottari it might take much longer time unless one goes as low as prana / sookshma etc. This is the reason why I choose Kala chakra - and Kala is time also. In reality does it matter which is the lagna here if we consider bhava? Birth time correction is far more complex and time consuming. Birth at a particular time is destined and no one can change it (doctors try- but even that is destined). Hope you shall take this in good stead. I must appologise to sanjay for indulging in this discussion, but felt worthwile to come to a conclusion about the birth time for your own good. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> Saturday, September 19, 2009 2:02:14 AM Re: i want to know about my kundali Respected Sir,Sadar Namaskar,Sir It is not the case of birth rectification. The querist has informed that his ascendant is Scorpio at 2:41AM on 18-01-1972.But it is incorrect.Actually his Ascendant is Libra at 29/53/30 and the result is correct according to his condition. If I take Scorpio it may be acceptable latest by 02:46 AM only as it takes hardly 5 minutes to take out the baby from mother's womb and crying of baby.The life begins when the baby inhales while crying Amma or any other form of sound.so for K.p is concerned,we have to take the rulling planet at the time of judgement.Then in that sign select the constellation and sub governed by the ruling planet.Then, this is the exact position of the lagna.Only the rulling planet at the moment of judgement will be useful and innumerable instance are given in the magazine ''Astrology & Athrishta''. I am not well adept in rectification of birth time.Please write an article on this point,If it is easily understandable by the general readers. I again pariticipated today in quiz held by K.P.forum and they published my analysis and result is yet to be announced.The query was thus-comment on this person & personality who was born on 25-04-1957 at 6AM,latitude is given 18:59E,Longitude 75:50E.Let the result come.I will tell you.With regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra --- On Fri, 9/18/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Re: i want to know about my kundali Friday, September 18, 2009, 5:20 PM Dear Dhirendra ji, Namasthe, I am writing this out of academic interest. Could you possibly show us how you arrive at correct TOB as per KP system?. I am asking since you mentioned about possible difference. with regards A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> Friday, September 18, 2009 9:11:15 PM Re: i want to know about my kundali Dear Sanjay.If your birth time is taken 2:41AM ,your ascendant comes Libra at 29 Degree 53Minutes 30Seconds.In this situation Your 4th house lord Sani is posited in 8th house and it is retrograde and besides this by progression Saturn had been posited in Leo Sign that is 8th from 4th house so you had to suffer on that count.Besides this your Jupiter-Sun Dasa had been effective from 26-12-2008 to 14-10-2009 and sublord of sun is saturn.This result suites you at present also.Sani(Saturn) has been posited in Leo for last 30 months.In this condition you should have helpfull good brothers and sisters also. Your birth time if taken 2:46AM,then your ascendant may be Scorpio at 1 Degree.In this condition your present condition is in question? Your financial condition should not have been worst.You should have two wheeler or 4 wheeler Vehicle. In this condition you should not have helpfull good brothers and sisters also. Confirm which time is suitable 2:41AM or 2:46AM and scorpio Lagna.If you confirm,you may be told remedy and analysis. Dhirendra Nath Misra --- On Fri, 9/18/09, sanjay_1972@ rocketmail. com <srsc (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> wrote: sanjay_1972@ rocketmail. com <srsc (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> i want to know about my kundali Friday, September 18, 2009, 1:34 PM pranam sir as my DOB is:18/01/1972 time of birth is 02:41 a.m., place of birth is nasik,maharashtra, india. since last 2 & 1/2 yrs i am facing problem in business, i m not able to concentrate properly on business as i am getting very much depress, i have gone to many astrologers some sy i am having shani dhaiya, some say i am having rahu dasha. i dont understant what to do in future life. one more thing i would like to add that my ascendant sign is scorpio, and moon sign is capricorn. request you to plz guide me remedy for my problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 Dear Sirs, For a minuete if v look from point of visionaries and as 3rd as lagna,the affliction is evident with Rahu and ketu as nodes effecting rasi as well as the house of association and partnerships (7th house) Saturn in any case as lord of 5th from rasi is retrograde and is in krittika of sun indicating that the native suffers from consistency and also has no proper image in business.As seen from mars in 3rd he mighty taking too much of risks as 3rd from rasi may not be giving the results. Dasa lord jupiter influenced by moola nakshtra of ketu in 12th is also contributing to losses.though in ownsign.Mercury in 12th may help him if he decides a proper product for business line or works deligently in consultancy as he is capable for such fileds. Probably birth time rectification procedures remain ambiguous and is not to be attempted for the sake of natives profits or losses.The position of moon and sun can give us leads to understand the trends of his life present and past. Probably the native is a brooding type, and in the height range of below 5.10 feet,and is having ,small eyes and physically strong with brittle hair and is very emotional .His ascendant is right or wrong too can be confirmed if at all we ascertain from him If pertains to libra these characters altogether will be different and must be bespectacled with and will have some bruises/accident marks on his body. These confirmations need to be looked also if doubts on lagna based birth time are entertained. Let's also remember whether the ju/mo/ma commencing from Dec 2009 till Nov 2011 (JU/MA/KE) will make things some what contnede. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Sat, 9/19/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote: Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag Re: i want to know about my kundali Saturday, September 19, 2009, 2:29 PM Dear Dhirendra nath ji, //If I take Scorpio it may be acceptable latest by 02:46 AM only as it takes hardly 5 minutes to take out the baby from mother's womb and crying of baby.The life begins when the baby inhales while crying Amma or any other form of sound.so for K.p is concerned,we have to take the rulling planet at the time of judgement// pls refer the above statement. I have seen this and wondered about it. lagna is the time when the baby first cries? Have you given any thought on this? In reality there are many cases where a baby does not cry for hours after birth and nurses try hard to make them cry - even harsh methods like pinching etc. But the truth is medicaly a newly born baby is believed to not to feel pain. So if the baby does not cry for an hour or two, will the KP consider the later time (after two hrs ) or the time of birth- when the baby came out?. what if the child born is dumb?. will you say (KP) that the child is never born?. Practically & medically crying of the baby is only a sign of health and that atleast some of functions are normal. I think it is a total misunderstanding or misinterpretation of what Shree Krishnamoorthy might have tried to convey. Simply because it is illlogical. pls Think about it. I am not trying to bashing of KP. Just pointing to a theory or rather a statement that does not have logic. Birth or Lagna is akin to Udaya - that rises (not cries). It is similar to sun rise - suryodaya. The only controvercy here that whether sun rise should be considered when tip of the surya bimba rises above the horizon or whether it should be when the full circle is above. There is also an argument about the halo of sun. There is lot of similarity in the birth of a child and that of sun the birth could be considered when we see the hair on the head or when when the head come out first or when the full body comes out. here the argument is valid when we consider prishtodaya - birth with legs first comming out. In that case, the body should be naturaly outside for the head to be see - A phenomena that does not happen with Sun. However the whole process takes only a minute or two. But with sun it could be slightly longer due to distance factor and the size of the sun. In traditional astrology we employ some methods such as " Kunda kriya " to correct lagna. I was actually hoping that you could give provide any mathematical process if existing in KP. Personaly I employ a combination of methods but is difficult without the active participation of the native with lot more facts than he might provide on the internet. That is the reason we rarely use it here. In this case, the only pointer he has provided conclusively is that he suffered since the last 2 1/2 years and that his name is sanjay(which we are not sure enough-many don't divulge their true name). That means he started suffering when saturn was transiting through Karkata - his 7th house and to the 8th. Jupiter though in the 11nth was retrograde. hence the suffering could be due to transit of planets also. However I find that if we adjust the time by 5 minutes - lagna off course changes to scorpio, Kalachakra dasa starts with karkata sign at about 2 1/2 years back and with the time he provided it start around 2005. But then, we need more facts to come to a conclusion. The native has only mentioned about financial difficulties - natual when we think 2nd house aspected by saturn from the 8th house. But if we consider Scorpio as lagna, what will the same Saturn do to his family life being in the 7th?. In kalachakra dasa, chidra or antardasa changes with a difference of even a minute whle vimsottari it might take much longer time unless one goes as low as prana / sookshma etc. This is the reason why I choose Kala chakra - and Kala is time also. In reality does it matter which is the lagna here if we consider bhava? Birth time correction is far more complex and time consuming. Birth at a particular time is destined and no one can change it (doctors try- but even that is destined). Hope you shall take this in good stead. I must appologise to sanjay for indulging in this discussion, but felt worthwile to come to a conclusion about the birth time for your own good. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> Saturday, September 19, 2009 2:02:14 AM Re: i want to know about my kundali Respected Sir,Sadar Namaskar,Sir It is not the case of birth rectification. The querist has informed that his ascendant is Scorpio at 2:41AM on 18-01-1972.But it is incorrect.Actually his Ascendant is Libra at 29/53/30 and the result is correct according to his condition. If I take Scorpio it may be acceptable latest by 02:46 AM only as it takes hardly 5 minutes to take out the baby from mother's womb and crying of baby..The life begins when the baby inhales while crying Amma or any other form of sound.so for K.p is concerned,we have to take the rulling planet at the time of judgement.Then in that sign select the constellation and sub governed by the ruling planet.Then, this is the exact position of the lagna.Only the rulling planet at the moment of judgement will be useful and innumerable instance are given in the magazine ''Astrology & Athrishta''. I am not well adept in rectification of birth time.Please write an article on this point,If it is easily understandable by the general readers. I again pariticipated today in quiz held by K.P..forum and they published my analysis and result is yet to be announced.The query was thus-comment on this person & personality who was born on 25-04-1957 at 6AM,latitude is given 18:59E,Longitude 75:50E.Let the result come.I will tell you.With regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra --- On Fri, 9/18/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Re: i want to know about my kundali Friday, September 18, 2009, 5:20 PM Dear Dhirendra ji, Namasthe, I am writing this out of academic interest. Could you possibly show us how you arrive at correct TOB as per KP system?. I am asking since you mentioned about possible difference. with regards A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> Friday, September 18, 2009 9:11:15 PM Re: i want to know about my kundali Dear Sanjay.If your birth time is taken 2:41AM ,your ascendant comes Libra at 29 Degree 53Minutes 30Seconds.In this situation Your 4th house lord Sani is posited in 8th house and it is retrograde and besides this by progression Saturn had been posited in Leo Sign that is 8th from 4th house so you had to suffer on that count.Besides this your Jupiter-Sun Dasa had been effective from 26-12-2008 to 14-10-2009 and sublord of sun is saturn.This result suites you at present also.Sani(Saturn) has been posited in Leo for last 30 months.In this condition you should have helpfull good brothers and sisters also. Your birth time if taken 2:46AM,then your ascendant may be Scorpio at 1 Degree.In this condition your present condition is in question? Your financial condition should not have been worst.You should have two wheeler or 4 wheeler Vehicle. In this condition you should not have helpfull good brothers and sisters also. Confirm which time is suitable 2:41AM or 2:46AM and scorpio Lagna.If you confirm,you may be told remedy and analysis. Dhirendra Nath Misra --- On Fri, 9/18/09, sanjay_1972@ rocketmail. com <srsc (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> wrote: sanjay_1972@ rocketmail. com <srsc (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> i want to know about my kundali Friday, September 18, 2009, 1:34 PM pranam sir as my DOB is:18/01/1972 time of birth is 02:41 a.m., place of birth is nasik,maharashtra, india. since last 2 & 1/2 yrs i am facing problem in business, i m not able to concentrate properly on business as i am getting very much depress, i have gone to many astrologers some sy i am having shani dhaiya, some say i am having rahu dasha. i dont understant what to do in future life. one more thing i would like to add that my ascendant sign is scorpio, and moon sign is capricorn. request you to plz guide me remedy for my problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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