Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Dear Rajas, I sincerely agree to all you have written. The only problem I faced in my naadi reading is that the shanti parihara cost was around 40,000/- rs .which I could not do due to this prohibitive cost. Deeksha pooja i did get performed by them(costing Rs 10,000) that was moola mantra for karthik bhagwan with full faith.I am also wearing the rakshai tabeej now after completion of this pooja. So in this case what do you think is the probability of future being true. Secondly in my general chapter I have got two children and in my 5th chapter I have got three. In my 10th chapter, it is written that I will start doing my own business by nov 2007 but nothing like that happen.Is it because I have not performed the shanti pariharas? I have consulted this naadi in Delhi(Place katwaria sarai, near mother dairy). regards Manish Goel -- In , " rajas_astrology " <rajas_astrology wrote: > > Jai Gurudev!!! > > Dear Friends, > sorry for not being in touch for a long time due to busy office > schedule!!! > I saw many people criticising on nadi astrology, its prediction and > questions like whether the nadi centres/readers are in for just > business/ making money? > > I want to suggest/advice to these people that if they have really made > up their mind that it is all fake then why they are wasting their time > here? > I guess that it is in the interest of the Group to have healthy open > ended discussions and debates on this subject matter and not just > prejudiced views either in favour or agaisnt nadi astrology... > > Now, based on my direct/indirect experience, i want to put few points: > > I have seen nadi readers spedning tiem to find the nadi leaf for hours > without any luck... if the leaf is not found, they do not charge a > single penny for their time & efforts.... is it a sign of pure business > minded people? i have personally spent whole day with nadi reader > wiwithout finding a single nadi leaf which means the nadi reader did > not earn anything during that day/s.... > in todays world, how many professions u will find like this, even in > astrology that u will be charged not in advance but at the end of the > day and only if there is a positive outcome; else no charge????? > > I saw few people claiming that the parihars are just way of gettign > money from us.... > > in pariharas - the shanti parihara in which normally it is advised to > visit certain temples - what is nadi reader going to earn out of that? > > in diksha kandam - yes u have to pay for certain puja to be performed > for given no. of times - n many cases the nadi reader does not insist > on performing puja at their end only.. it is optional to us.. if we > want, we can get it done on our own or from other guruji... > > my friend has seen some cases where - it was mentioned in nadi reading > that the reader will not charge anything for the puja performance, and > in some cases, the nadi reader has to bear the expenses of the puja... > what can be business intention involved in this??? > > there are some real life experiences when the person has performed the > pariharas and is benefited from the same - what explanation we can give > to it? will we say that it can be just a fluke? > > I'll certainly not claim that all the nadi readers and centres are/will > be good ones but then in todays world which profession is left without > fake cases? even fields like medicine, teaching is spoiled.... > > so friends, it may be possible that in many cases, future predictions > are not coming true, but then if we know that in some cases they are > coming true, we need to logically find out the reasons for those > success stories before concluding that it is all fake... > > and forget about the future preductions, what about the past & present? > how come if the correct nadi leaf is found, the names, and past/present > comes almost 100% correct??? > I know many people claim that these readers collect information from us > thru question answer sessiona nd then reproduce as if it is written in > the nadi leaf... but I strongly disagree with this based on my own > direct experiences.... > I haev seen cases where not a single name our of the relations were > disclosed to the reader from the earlier discussions and when the > correct leaf was found, all the names came perfect... > i have seen cases where just 3rd/4th nadi leaf picked up was the one.. > so there was no exchange of information at all before finding the nadi > leaf... so it is just impossible fot the reader to find out all this > information before hand or at the time of meeting... > > I am a astrolger and in all the readings i do verify the planatory > position - the reader does not have enough time to go back refer > panchang to see what was the planatory position on the date and time of > birth of the person and then furnish the information.... and i ahve > verified that once the leaf was found, other information was matched, > the planatory position were also find almost 100% matching.... with the > computerised birth chart.... and in many cases the lagna sign was also > mentioned in the reading and the same was also matched.... now the > lagna sign changes every 2 hours... it is difficult for the reader to > find out by any way what was lagna sign on given date and time and > place of birth without referring to panchang or internet.. which he > does not do..... > > so there are really so many things which really need to be looked into > before making any comment on it.... > > I'll end up my discussion with one example which i have quoted earlier - > > in one case - the lady was pregnant - due date was after 4 weeks, she > was not having any labour pains and she herself visited the centre for > reading... and the reading said that she is going to deliver a baby boy > tomorrow.... no one believed from her family, till in midnight, she > started feeling labour pain, she was hospitalised and gave birth to a a > baby boy... > > another example - in a widow lady's future prediction it was mentioned > that she will have a 2nd marriage... she had no such intention and she > strongly said that this prediction is going to be false one... but ina > year's time things happened in such way that she eventually got married > and prediction came true... > > in a boy's reading - details about his would be wife were given and he > ended up marrying with a girl with all the predictions matching 100%.... > > Hope this will create some thought process in ur mind and u feel like > coming forward, and in a joint efforts wth this group as a platform, > contribute for doing more research on this subject matter for the > betterment of the humankind... > > May God Bless You > > Regards > > Rajas > > for more information, u can refer my earlier messeges and postings in > files section. > You can also reach me at - > rajas.khaladkar to ahve further discussion on the subject > matter > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 my dear timings go wrong so many times in nadi readings . u will definitely start your own business . wait . dont loose hope . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Hi Rajas, Hare Krishna actually that was a very nice write up u wrote. but on the other hand, i think you do not need to defend the discipline - i say again - discipline, that is Nadi. for people who do not believe in Nadi, it is probably not their fault. they may have encountered bad experiences where Nadi is concerned, or perhaps are just a bit frustrated with the whole process. it is my personal belief that if you are meant to know something, you will know it. in the same case, if you are meant to get your Nadi, you will find it. as Rajas put it, he has visited so many places and his leaf could not be found. in the same case, i have read that someone's leaf was found, but he was told to come back at a certain age with his wife! to understand what happens with all this, it is of utmost importance to understand the fact that Man is part of something else, and is not by himself. every single person on this planet has to co-exist within nature and the grander scheme of things. by 'scheme,' i do not include the idea of God....so if you're an atheist, you might also be able to to this idea. for instance, cut trees, and u get global warming. pollute the rivers and oceans, you don't get to drink clean water. in this simple but powerful example, you'll see how human beings connect to everything around. i'm not saying that Man is not the Master of his own destiny. Krishna says in the Gita, that you make your own destiny. but at the same time, if your destiny was to find out what is in store for you, you will. and you will solve the problems associated with your destiny. isn't that, in a way, control of your destiny? if you look at this another way...destiny is there to give you a nudge, after which it is all up to you what you wanna do with that nudge. for example, if you are a medical student. you have entered the top medical school in the world. but here's the thing.....you stop studying and stop working hard. what's gonna happen to you then? of course, you will fail and drop out. getting into medical school was the nudge from destiny...studying hard and working hard, that is all up to you. personally, it is a fact (to me at least) that unseen forces exert themselves on people. i'm not saying this because i have not had any experiences with this. quite the contrary, i have had the pleasure of experiencing things people normally do not. so i do believe that we are pre-disposed to certain things around us that we don't always see or understand. but at the same time, it is also a fact that these things around us can be controlled by us!! Man uses 8% of his brainpower.....think about it. where the heck is the 92%?!! we have all heard stories of people who can do great things.....i have seen people who can do great thing. not things like materialising object from the air etc etc...but i shall not go into detail about this. i guess there was some side tracking involved in the last paragraph, but the point i am trying to make is, destiny. it is a very real thing. now if we talk about the Mahabharata....you think they all wanted to get into a War? No one wants a War! but destiny and duty beckoned. each and every person in this great epic was resolved to destiny, except of course, God himself. so in the same way, if it is meant to be for you, it will happen. take me for example. who would have thought a B.Sc student in Singapore would contact a Nadi astrologer in Pune, and his exact leaf would actually be with him? on my first try! on the telephone! i did not have to travel to India (although i really want to again, hopefully soon), just called, and BAM! my leaf was there. what are the chances of that happening? if it is meant to happen, it will. thats all i have to say. i would like to take this opportunity to thank Mr Kasam for providing Mr. Murlidharan's number, due to which I have been successful in my Nadi search. i shall be getting my reading tomorrow! its so exciting! God bless every single person on earth ...even George W. Bush hahahahaha! Hare Krishna , " rajas_astrology " <rajas_astrology wrote: > > Jai Gurudev!!! > > Dear Friends, > sorry for not being in touch for a long time due to busy office > schedule!!! > I saw many people criticising on nadi astrology, its prediction and > questions like whether the nadi centres/readers are in for just > business/ making money? > > I want to suggest/advice to these people that if they have really made > up their mind that it is all fake then why they are wasting their time > here? > I guess that it is in the interest of the Group to have healthy open > ended discussions and debates on this subject matter and not just > prejudiced views either in favour or agaisnt nadi astrology... > > Now, based on my direct/indirect experience, i want to put few points: > > I have seen nadi readers spedning tiem to find the nadi leaf for hours > without any luck... if the leaf is not found, they do not charge a > single penny for their time & efforts.... is it a sign of pure business > minded people? i have personally spent whole day with nadi reader > wiwithout finding a single nadi leaf which means the nadi reader did > not earn anything during that day/s.... > in todays world, how many professions u will find like this, even in > astrology that u will be charged not in advance but at the end of the > day and only if there is a positive outcome; else no charge????? > > I saw few people claiming that the parihars are just way of gettign > money from us.... > > in pariharas - the shanti parihara in which normally it is advised to > visit certain temples - what is nadi reader going to earn out of that? > > in diksha kandam - yes u have to pay for certain puja to be performed > for given no. of times - n many cases the nadi reader does not insist > on performing puja at their end only.. it is optional to us.. if we > want, we can get it done on our own or from other guruji... > > my friend has seen some cases where - it was mentioned in nadi reading > that the reader will not charge anything for the puja performance, and > in some cases, the nadi reader has to bear the expenses of the puja... > what can be business intention involved in this??? > > there are some real life experiences when the person has performed the > pariharas and is benefited from the same - what explanation we can give > to it? will we say that it can be just a fluke? > > I'll certainly not claim that all the nadi readers and centres are/will > be good ones but then in todays world which profession is left without > fake cases? even fields like medicine, teaching is spoiled.... > > so friends, it may be possible that in many cases, future predictions > are not coming true, but then if we know that in some cases they are > coming true, we need to logically find out the reasons for those > success stories before concluding that it is all fake... > > and forget about the future preductions, what about the past & present? > how come if the correct nadi leaf is found, the names, and past/present > comes almost 100% correct??? > I know many people claim that these readers collect information from us > thru question answer sessiona nd then reproduce as if it is written in > the nadi leaf... but I strongly disagree with this based on my own > direct experiences.... > I haev seen cases where not a single name our of the relations were > disclosed to the reader from the earlier discussions and when the > correct leaf was found, all the names came perfect... > i have seen cases where just 3rd/4th nadi leaf picked up was the one.. > so there was no exchange of information at all before finding the nadi > leaf... so it is just impossible fot the reader to find out all this > information before hand or at the time of meeting... > > I am a astrolger and in all the readings i do verify the planatory > position - the reader does not have enough time to go back refer > panchang to see what was the planatory position on the date and time of > birth of the person and then furnish the information.... and i ahve > verified that once the leaf was found, other information was matched, > the planatory position were also find almost 100% matching.... with the > computerised birth chart.... and in many cases the lagna sign was also > mentioned in the reading and the same was also matched.... now the > lagna sign changes every 2 hours... it is difficult for the reader to > find out by any way what was lagna sign on given date and time and > place of birth without referring to panchang or internet.. which he > does not do..... > > so there are really so many things which really need to be looked into > before making any comment on it.... > > I'll end up my discussion with one example which i have quoted earlier - > > in one case - the lady was pregnant - due date was after 4 weeks, she > was not having any labour pains and she herself visited the centre for > reading... and the reading said that she is going to deliver a baby boy > tomorrow.... no one believed from her family, till in midnight, she > started feeling labour pain, she was hospitalised and gave birth to a a > baby boy... > > another example - in a widow lady's future prediction it was mentioned > that she will have a 2nd marriage... she had no such intention and she > strongly said that this prediction is going to be false one... but ina > year's time things happened in such way that she eventually got married > and prediction came true... > > in a boy's reading - details about his would be wife were given and he > ended up marrying with a girl with all the predictions matching 100%.... > > Hope this will create some thought process in ur mind and u feel like > coming forward, and in a joint efforts wth this group as a platform, > contribute for doing more research on this subject matter for the > betterment of the humankind... > > May God Bless You > > Regards > > Rajas > > for more information, u can refer my earlier messeges and postings in > files section. > You can also reach me at - > rajas.khaladkar to ahve further discussion on the subject > matter > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Har Krishna, thks for ur kind words... good to know that ur leaf was found... hope u will also perform pariharas, as prescribed, if any... do share ur experience, especially in future what happens in ur future as compared to the future predictions given in the reading... if u plan to visit Pune, do let me know and may be we can meet... about defending the discipline, no I am not here to defend it or my intention is not to defend it... I'm just puting down the facts which needs to be considered before reaching to any conclusion against it... and my point is that, becuase of some negative comments from people, others should not just get away from it without having a self experience.... and i strongly believe that spending Rs. 300 to 500 to find general chapter reading is atleast worth trying compared to the possible benefits involved into it.... the later part of doing pariharas, etc. which may involve material amount, that person cand ecide based on his experience and what his subconcious mind tell him... Hare Krishna, Rajas , " epitaph31 " <epitaph31 wrote: > > Hi Rajas, Hare Krishna > > actually that was a very nice write up u wrote. but on the other > hand, i think you do not need to defend the discipline - i say > again - discipline, that is Nadi. for people who do not believe in > Nadi, it is probably not their fault. they may have encountered bad > experiences where Nadi is concerned, or perhaps are just a bit > frustrated with the whole process. > > it is my personal belief that if you are meant to know something, > you will know it. in the same case, if you are meant to get your > Nadi, you will find it. as Rajas put it, he has visited so many > places and his leaf could not be found. in the same case, i have > read that someone's leaf was found, but he was told to come back at > a certain age with his wife! > > to understand what happens with all this, it is of utmost importance > to understand the fact that Man is part of something else, and is > not by himself. every single person on this planet has to co-exist > within nature and the grander scheme of things. by 'scheme,' i do > not include the idea of God....so if you're an atheist, you might > also be able to to this idea. for instance, cut trees, and > u get global warming. pollute the rivers and oceans, you don't get > to drink clean water. in this simple but powerful example, you'll > see how human beings connect to everything around. i'm not saying > that Man is not the Master of his own destiny. Krishna says in the > Gita, that you make your own destiny. but at the same time, if your > destiny was to find out what is in store for you, you will. and you > will solve the problems associated with your destiny. isn't that, in > a way, control of your destiny? if you look at this another > way...destiny is there to give you a nudge, after which it is all up > to you what you wanna do with that nudge. for example, if you are a > medical student. you have entered the top medical school in the > world. but here's the thing.....you stop studying and stop working > hard. what's gonna happen to you then? of course, you will fail and > drop out. getting into medical school was the nudge from > destiny...studying hard and working hard, that is all up to you. > > personally, it is a fact (to me at least) that unseen forces exert > themselves on people. i'm not saying this because i have not had any > experiences with this. quite the contrary, i have had the pleasure > of experiencing things people normally do not. so i do believe that > we are pre-disposed to certain things around us that we don't always > see or understand. but at the same time, it is also a fact that > these things around us can be controlled by us!! Man uses 8% of his > brainpower.....think about it. where the heck is the 92%?!! we have > all heard stories of people who can do great things.....i have seen > people who can do great thing. not things like materialising object > from the air etc etc...but i shall not go into detail about this. > > i guess there was some side tracking involved in the last paragraph, > but the point i am trying to make is, destiny. it is a very real > thing. now if we talk about the Mahabharata....you think they all > wanted to get into a War? No one wants a War! but destiny and duty > beckoned. each and every person in this great epic was resolved to > destiny, except of course, God himself. so in the same way, if it is > meant to be for you, it will happen. take me for example. who would > have thought a B.Sc student in Singapore would contact a Nadi > astrologer in Pune, and his exact leaf would actually be with him? > on my first try! on the telephone! i did not have to travel to India > (although i really want to again, hopefully soon), just called, and > BAM! my leaf was there. what are the chances of that happening? if > it is meant to happen, it will. thats all i have to say. > > i would like to take this opportunity to thank Mr Kasam for > providing Mr. Murlidharan's number, due to which I have been > successful in my Nadi search. i shall be getting my reading > tomorrow! its so exciting! > > God bless every single person on earth ...even George W. Bush > hahahahaha! > Hare Krishna > > , " rajas_astrology " > <rajas_astrology@> wrote: > > > > Jai Gurudev!!! > > > > Dear Friends, > > sorry for not being in touch for a long time due to busy office > > schedule!!! > > I saw many people criticising on nadi astrology, its prediction > and > > questions like whether the nadi centres/readers are in for just > > business/ making money? > > > > I want to suggest/advice to these people that if they have really > made > > up their mind that it is all fake then why they are wasting their > time > > here? > > I guess that it is in the interest of the Group to have healthy > open > > ended discussions and debates on this subject matter and not just > > prejudiced views either in favour or agaisnt nadi astrology... > > > > Now, based on my direct/indirect experience, i want to put few > points: > > > > I have seen nadi readers spedning tiem to find the nadi leaf for > hours > > without any luck... if the leaf is not found, they do not charge a > > single penny for their time & efforts.... is it a sign of pure > business > > minded people? i have personally spent whole day with nadi reader > > wiwithout finding a single nadi leaf which means the nadi reader > did > > not earn anything during that day/s.... > > in todays world, how many professions u will find like this, even > in > > astrology that u will be charged not in advance but at the end of > the > > day and only if there is a positive outcome; else no charge????? > > > > I saw few people claiming that the parihars are just way of > gettign > > money from us.... > > > > in pariharas - the shanti parihara in which normally it is advised > to > > visit certain temples - what is nadi reader going to earn out of > that? > > > > in diksha kandam - yes u have to pay for certain puja to be > performed > > for given no. of times - n many cases the nadi reader does not > insist > > on performing puja at their end only.. it is optional to us.. if > we > > want, we can get it done on our own or from other guruji... > > > > my friend has seen some cases where - it was mentioned in nadi > reading > > that the reader will not charge anything for the puja performance, > and > > in some cases, the nadi reader has to bear the expenses of the > puja... > > what can be business intention involved in this??? > > > > there are some real life experiences when the person has performed > the > > pariharas and is benefited from the same - what explanation we can > give > > to it? will we say that it can be just a fluke? > > > > I'll certainly not claim that all the nadi readers and centres > are/will > > be good ones but then in todays world which profession is left > without > > fake cases? even fields like medicine, teaching is spoiled.... > > > > so friends, it may be possible that in many cases, future > predictions > > are not coming true, but then if we know that in some cases they > are > > coming true, we need to logically find out the reasons for those > > success stories before concluding that it is all fake... > > > > and forget about the future preductions, what about the past & > present? > > how come if the correct nadi leaf is found, the names, and > past/present > > comes almost 100% correct??? > > I know many people claim that these readers collect information > from us > > thru question answer sessiona nd then reproduce as if it is > written in > > the nadi leaf... but I strongly disagree with this based on my own > > direct experiences.... > > I haev seen cases where not a single name our of the relations > were > > disclosed to the reader from the earlier discussions and when the > > correct leaf was found, all the names came perfect... > > i have seen cases where just 3rd/4th nadi leaf picked up was the > one.. > > so there was no exchange of information at all before finding the > nadi > > leaf... so it is just impossible fot the reader to find out all > this > > information before hand or at the time of meeting... > > > > I am a astrolger and in all the readings i do verify the planatory > > position - the reader does not have enough time to go back refer > > panchang to see what was the planatory position on the date and > time of > > birth of the person and then furnish the information.... and i > ahve > > verified that once the leaf was found, other information was > matched, > > the planatory position were also find almost 100% matching.... > with the > > computerised birth chart.... and in many cases the lagna sign was > also > > mentioned in the reading and the same was also matched.... now the > > lagna sign changes every 2 hours... it is difficult for the reader > to > > find out by any way what was lagna sign on given date and time and > > place of birth without referring to panchang or internet.. which > he > > does not do..... > > > > so there are really so many things which really need to be looked > into > > before making any comment on it.... > > > > I'll end up my discussion with one example which i have quoted > earlier - > > > > in one case - the lady was pregnant - due date was after 4 weeks, > she > > was not having any labour pains and she herself visited the centre > for > > reading... and the reading said that she is going to deliver a > baby boy > > tomorrow.... no one believed from her family, till in midnight, > she > > started feeling labour pain, she was hospitalised and gave birth > to a a > > baby boy... > > > > another example - in a widow lady's future prediction it was > mentioned > > that she will have a 2nd marriage... she had no such intention and > she > > strongly said that this prediction is going to be false one... but > ina > > year's time things happened in such way that she eventually got > married > > and prediction came true... > > > > in a boy's reading - details about his would be wife were given > and he > > ended up marrying with a girl with all the predictions matching > 100%.... > > > > Hope this will create some thought process in ur mind and u feel > like > > coming forward, and in a joint efforts wth this group as a > platform, > > contribute for doing more research on this subject matter for the > > betterment of the humankind... > > > > May God Bless You > > > > Regards > > > > Rajas > > > > for more information, u can refer my earlier messeges and postings > in > > files section. > > You can also reach me at - > > rajas.khaladkar@ to ahve further discussion on the subject > > matter > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Jai Gurudev!!! Dear Manish, if u perform 50% of what is prescribed, it is possible that the probability of success to be reduced to around 50% or not atleast 100%... so the reason for future predicition not coming true, is possibly because u did not perform the shanti parihara... Practically, i fully agree with u that 40,000/- is a big amount and many indians may not be in a position to spend that much... but in such case, my personal opinion is to have a second nadi reading done from another nadi centre which u find reliable one... in ur case, it might be possible / would have been possible that in another nadi reading, u would have been told to do different pariharas which may be within ur reach and if the same is/was done, who knows, the future will/would be as per the prediction... and i will again like to mention here that ur present is because of ur past, and ur future depends to some extent on ur past and to some extent on ur present.... by doing pariharas, etc., one can try to remove the ill effect of past bad karmas but apart from that by doing good karmas and avoiding bad karmas in present, one can have a good future/can change the future... only thing is it is very difficult for an average person to judge ina dvance that how much/what he can change and what he cannot change.... so what is in our hand is to do the positive karmas... even if in immediate future, u may not get the fruit of ur present good karmas, u will definitely get it in longer run... Wish u all the best Regards Rajas , " mgoel1973 " <mgoel1973 wrote: > > Dear Rajas, > I sincerely agree to all you have written. > > The only problem I faced in my naadi reading is that the shanti > parihara cost was around 40,000/- rs .which I could not do due to > this prohibitive cost. > > Deeksha pooja i did get performed by them(costing Rs 10,000) that > was moola mantra for karthik bhagwan with full faith.I am also > wearing the rakshai tabeej now after completion of this pooja. > > So in this case what do you think is the probability of future being > true. > > Secondly in my general chapter I have got two children and in my 5th > chapter I have got three. > > In my 10th chapter, it is written that I will start doing my own > business by nov 2007 but nothing like that happen.Is it because I > have not performed the shanti pariharas? > > I have consulted this naadi in Delhi(Place katwaria sarai, near > mother dairy). > > regards > Manish Goel > > -- In , " rajas_astrology " > <rajas_astrology@> wrote: > > > > Jai Gurudev!!! > > > > Dear Friends, > > sorry for not being in touch for a long time due to busy office > > schedule!!! > > I saw many people criticising on nadi astrology, its prediction > and > > questions like whether the nadi centres/readers are in for just > > business/ making money? > > > > I want to suggest/advice to these people that if they have really > made > > up their mind that it is all fake then why they are wasting their > time > > here? > > I guess that it is in the interest of the Group to have healthy > open > > ended discussions and debates on this subject matter and not just > > prejudiced views either in favour or agaisnt nadi astrology... > > > > Now, based on my direct/indirect experience, i want to put few > points: > > > > I have seen nadi readers spedning tiem to find the nadi leaf for > hours > > without any luck... if the leaf is not found, they do not charge a > > single penny for their time & efforts.... is it a sign of pure > business > > minded people? i have personally spent whole day with nadi reader > > wiwithout finding a single nadi leaf which means the nadi reader > did > > not earn anything during that day/s.... > > in todays world, how many professions u will find like this, even > in > > astrology that u will be charged not in advance but at the end of > the > > day and only if there is a positive outcome; else no charge????? > > > > I saw few people claiming that the parihars are just way of > gettign > > money from us.... > > > > in pariharas - the shanti parihara in which normally it is advised > to > > visit certain temples - what is nadi reader going to earn out of > that? > > > > in diksha kandam - yes u have to pay for certain puja to be > performed > > for given no. of times - n many cases the nadi reader does not > insist > > on performing puja at their end only.. it is optional to us.. if > we > > want, we can get it done on our own or from other guruji... > > > > my friend has seen some cases where - it was mentioned in nadi > reading > > that the reader will not charge anything for the puja performance, > and > > in some cases, the nadi reader has to bear the expenses of the > puja... > > what can be business intention involved in this??? > > > > there are some real life experiences when the person has performed > the > > pariharas and is benefited from the same - what explanation we can > give > > to it? will we say that it can be just a fluke? > > > > I'll certainly not claim that all the nadi readers and centres > are/will > > be good ones but then in todays world which profession is left > without > > fake cases? even fields like medicine, teaching is spoiled.... > > > > so friends, it may be possible that in many cases, future > predictions > > are not coming true, but then if we know that in some cases they > are > > coming true, we need to logically find out the reasons for those > > success stories before concluding that it is all fake... > > > > and forget about the future preductions, what about the past & > present? > > how come if the correct nadi leaf is found, the names, and > past/present > > comes almost 100% correct??? > > I know many people claim that these readers collect information > from us > > thru question answer sessiona nd then reproduce as if it is > written in > > the nadi leaf... but I strongly disagree with this based on my own > > direct experiences.... > > I haev seen cases where not a single name our of the relations > were > > disclosed to the reader from the earlier discussions and when the > > correct leaf was found, all the names came perfect... > > i have seen cases where just 3rd/4th nadi leaf picked up was the > one.. > > so there was no exchange of information at all before finding the > nadi > > leaf... so it is just impossible fot the reader to find out all > this > > information before hand or at the time of meeting... > > > > I am a astrolger and in all the readings i do verify the planatory > > position - the reader does not have enough time to go back refer > > panchang to see what was the planatory position on the date and > time of > > birth of the person and then furnish the information.... and i > ahve > > verified that once the leaf was found, other information was > matched, > > the planatory position were also find almost 100% matching.... > with the > > computerised birth chart.... and in many cases the lagna sign was > also > > mentioned in the reading and the same was also matched.... now the > > lagna sign changes every 2 hours... it is difficult for the reader > to > > find out by any way what was lagna sign on given date and time and > > place of birth without referring to panchang or internet.. which > he > > does not do..... > > > > so there are really so many things which really need to be looked > into > > before making any comment on it.... > > > > I'll end up my discussion with one example which i have quoted > earlier - > > > > in one case - the lady was pregnant - due date was after 4 weeks, > she > > was not having any labour pains and she herself visited the centre > for > > reading... and the reading said that she is going to deliver a > baby boy > > tomorrow.... no one believed from her family, till in midnight, > she > > started feeling labour pain, she was hospitalised and gave birth > to a a > > baby boy... > > > > another example - in a widow lady's future prediction it was > mentioned > > that she will have a 2nd marriage... she had no such intention and > she > > strongly said that this prediction is going to be false one... but > ina > > year's time things happened in such way that she eventually got > married > > and prediction came true... > > > > in a boy's reading - details about his would be wife were given > and he > > ended up marrying with a girl with all the predictions matching > 100%.... > > > > Hope this will create some thought process in ur mind and u feel > like > > coming forward, and in a joint efforts wth this group as a > platform, > > contribute for doing more research on this subject matter for the > > betterment of the humankind... > > > > May God Bless You > > > > Regards > > > > Rajas > > > > for more information, u can refer my earlier messeges and postings > in > > files section. > > You can also reach me at - > > rajas.khaladkar@ to ahve further discussion on the subject > > matter > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Hi Rajasji Hope you are doing fine, I tried to get the 2 people i had mentioned have there leafs so that i could scan and send across to you but they were a bit hesitant and i felt wrong to push, since it has all details about them they did not agree, i will try to see if i come across any more people who had got there leaf after the reading. best regards KRS rajas_astrology <rajas_astrology Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 8:00:14 PM Re: nadi astrology Jai Gurudev!!!Dear Manish,if u perform 50% of what is prescribed, it is possible that the probability of success to be reduced to around 50% or not atleast 100%...so the reason for future predicition not coming true, is possibly because u did not perform the shanti parihara...Practically, i fully agree with u that 40,000/- is a big amount and many indians may not be in a position to spend that much...but in such case, my personal opinion is to have a second nadi reading done from another nadi centre which u find reliable one...in ur case, it might be possible / would have been possible that in another nadi reading, u would have been told to do different pariharas which may be within ur reach and if the same is/was done, who knows, the future will/would be as per the prediction.. .and i will again like to mention here thatur present is because of ur past, and ur future depends to some extent on ur past and to some extent on ur present....by doing pariharas, etc., one can try to remove the ill effect of past bad karmas but apart from that by doing good karmas and avoiding bad karmas in present, one can have a good future/can change the future... only thing is it is very difficult for an average person to judge ina dvance that how much/what he can change and what he cannot change.... so what is in our hand is to do the positive karmas... even if in immediate future, u may not get the fruit of ur present good karmas, u will definitely get it in longer run...Wish u all the bestRegardsRajas , "mgoel1973" <mgoel1973@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Rajas,> I sincerely agree to all you have written.> > The only problem I faced in my naadi reading is that the shanti > parihara cost was around 40,000/- rs .which I could not do due to > this prohibitive cost.> > Deeksha pooja i did get performed by them(costing Rs 10,000) that > was moola mantra for karthik bhagwan with full faith.I am also > wearing the rakshai tabeej now after completion of this pooja.> > So in this case what do you think is the probability of future being > true.> > Secondly in my general chapter I have got two children and in my 5th > chapter I have got three.> > In my 10th chapter, it is written that I will start doing my own > business by nov 2007 but nothing like that happen.Is it because I > have not performed the shanti pariharas?> > I have consulted this naadi in Delhi(Place katwaria sarai, near > mother dairy). > > regards> Manish Goel > > -- In , "rajas_astrology" > <rajas_astrology@ > wrote:> >> > Jai Gurudev!!!> > > > Dear Friends,> > sorry for not being in touch for a long time due to busy office > > schedule!!!> > I saw many people criticising on nadi astrology, its prediction > and > > questions like whether the nadi centres/readers are in for just > > business/ making money?> > > > I want to suggest/advice to these people that if they have really > made > > up their mind that it is all fake then why they are wasting their > time > > here?> > I guess that it is in the interest of the Group to have healthy > open > > ended discussions and debates on this subject matter and not just > > prejudiced views either in favour or agaisnt nadi astrology...> > > > Now, based on my direct/indirect experience, i want to put few > points:> > > > I have seen nadi readers spedning tiem to find the nadi leaf for > hours > > without any luck... if the leaf is not found, they do not charge a > > single penny for their time & efforts.... is it a sign of pure > business > > minded people? i have personally spent whole day with nadi reader > > wiwithout finding a single nadi leaf which means the nadi reader > did > > not earn anything during that day/s....> > in todays world, how many professions u will find like this, even > in > > astrology that u will be charged not in advance but at the end of > the > > day and only if there is a positive outcome; else no charge?????> > > > I saw few people claiming that the parihars are just way of > gettign > > money from us....> > > > in pariharas - the shanti parihara in which normally it is advised > to > > visit certain temples - what is nadi reader going to earn out of > that?> > > > in diksha kandam - yes u have to pay for certain puja to be > performed > > for given no. of times - n many cases the nadi reader does not > insist > > on performing puja at their end only.. it is optional to us.. if > we > > want, we can get it done on our own or from other guruji...> > > > my friend has seen some cases where - it was mentioned in nadi > reading > > that the reader will not charge anything for the puja performance, > and > > in some cases, the nadi reader has to bear the expenses of the > puja... > > what can be business intention involved in this???> > > > there are some real life experiences when the person has performed > the > > pariharas and is benefited from the same - what explanation we can > give > > to it? will we say that it can be just a fluke?> > > > I'll certainly not claim that all the nadi readers and centres > are/will > > be good ones but then in todays world which profession is left > without > > fake cases? even fields like medicine, teaching is spoiled....> > > > so friends, it may be possible that in many cases, future > predictions > > are not coming true, but then if we know that in some cases they > are > > coming true, we need to logically find out the reasons for those > > success stories before concluding that it is all fake...> > > > and forget about the future preductions, what about the past & > present?> > how come if the correct nadi leaf is found, the names, and > past/present > > comes almost 100% correct???> > I know many people claim that these readers collect information > from us > > thru question answer sessiona nd then reproduce as if it is > written in > > the nadi leaf... but I strongly disagree with this based on my own > > direct experiences. ...> > I haev seen cases where not a single name our of the relations > were > > disclosed to the reader from the earlier discussions and when the > > correct leaf was found, all the names came perfect...> > i have seen cases where just 3rd/4th nadi leaf picked up was the > one.. > > so there was no exchange of information at all before finding the > nadi > > leaf... so it is just impossible fot the reader to find out all > this > > information before hand or at the time of meeting...> > > > I am a astrolger and in all the readings i do verify the planatory > > position - the reader does not have enough time to go back refer > > panchang to see what was the planatory position on the date and > time of > > birth of the person and then furnish the information. ... and i > ahve > > verified that once the leaf was found, other information was > matched, > > the planatory position were also find almost 100% matching.... > with the > > computerised birth chart.... and in many cases the lagna sign was > also > > mentioned in the reading and the same was also matched.... now the > > lagna sign changes every 2 hours... it is difficult for the reader > to > > find out by any way what was lagna sign on given date and time and > > place of birth without referring to panchang or internet.. which > he > > does not do.....> > > > so there are really so many things which really need to be looked > into > > before making any comment on it....> > > > I'll end up my discussion with one example which i have quoted > earlier -> > > > in one case - the lady was pregnant - due date was after 4 weeks, > she > > was not having any labour pains and she herself visited the centre > for > > reading... and the reading said that she is going to deliver a > baby boy > > tomorrow.... no one believed from her family, till in midnight, > she > > started feeling labour pain, she was hospitalised and gave birth > to a a > > baby boy...> > > > another example - in a widow lady's future prediction it was > mentioned > > that she will have a 2nd marriage... she had no such intention and > she > > strongly said that this prediction is going to be false one... but > ina > > year's time things happened in such way that she eventually got > married > > and prediction came true...> > > > in a boy's reading - details about his would be wife were given > and he > > ended up marrying with a girl with all the predictions matching > 100%....> > > > Hope this will create some thought process in ur mind and u feel > like > > coming forward, and in a joint efforts wth this group as a > platform, > > contribute for doing more research on this subject matter for the > > betterment of the humankind...> > > > May God Bless You> > > > Regards> > > > Rajas> > > > for more information, u can refer my earlier messeges and postings > in > > files section.> > You can also reach me at - > > rajas.khaladkar@ to ahve further discussion on the subject > > matter> >> Looking for last minute shopping deals? 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Guest guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Hare Krishna Rajas, hey that would be great! if i do come to India, we should meet up, and maybe we could meet to Mr. Murlidharan. it would be great to meet him too. well said. Regards. From: rajas_astrologyDate: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:09:31 +0000 Re: nadi astrology Har Krishna,thks for ur kind words...good to know that ur leaf was found... hope u will also perform pariharas, as prescribed, if any...do share ur experience, especially in future what happens in ur future as compared to the future predictions given in the reading...if u plan to visit Pune, do let me know and may be we can meet...about defending the discipline, no I am not here to defend it or my intention is not to defend it... I'm just puting down the facts which needs to be considered before reaching to any conclusion against it...and my point is that, becuase of some negative comments from people, others should not just get away from it without having a self experience....and i strongly believe that spending Rs. 300 to 500 to find general chapter reading is atleast worth trying compared to the possible benefits involved into it.... the later part of doing pariharas, etc. which may involve material amount, that person cand ecide based on his experience and what his subconcious mind tell him...Hare Krishna,Rajas , "epitaph31" <epitaph31 wrote:>> Hi Rajas, Hare Krishna> > actually that was a very nice write up u wrote. but on the other > hand, i think you do not need to defend the discipline - i say > again - discipline, that is Nadi. for people who do not believe in > Nadi, it is probably not their fault. they may have encountered bad > experiences where Nadi is concerned, or perhaps are just a bit > frustrated with the whole process.> > it is my personal belief that if you are meant to know something, > you will know it. in the same case, if you are meant to get your > Nadi, you will find it. as Rajas put it, he has visited so many > places and his leaf could not be found. in the same case, i have > read that someone's leaf was found, but he was told to come back at > a certain age with his wife!> > to understand what happens with all this, it is of utmost importance > to understand the fact that Man is part of something else, and is > not by himself. every single person on this planet has to co-exist > within nature and the grander scheme of things. by 'scheme,' i do > not include the idea of God....so if you're an atheist, you might > also be able to to this idea. for instance, cut trees, and > u get global warming. pollute the rivers and oceans, you don't get > to drink clean water. in this simple but powerful example, you'll > see how human beings connect to everything around. i'm not saying > that Man is not the Master of his own destiny. Krishna says in the > Gita, that you make your own destiny. but at the same time, if your > destiny was to find out what is in store for you, you will. and you > will solve the problems associated with your destiny. isn't that, in > a way, control of your destiny? if you look at this another > way...destiny is there to give you a nudge, after which it is all up > to you what you wanna do with that nudge. for example, if you are a > medical student. you have entered the top medical school in the > world. but here's the thing.....you stop studying and stop working > hard. what's gonna happen to you then? of course, you will fail and > drop out. getting into medical school was the nudge from > destiny...studying hard and working hard, that is all up to you.> > personally, it is a fact (to me at least) that unseen forces exert > themselves on people. i'm not saying this because i have not had any > experiences with this. quite the contrary, i have had the pleasure > of experiencing things people normally do not. so i do believe that > we are pre-disposed to certain things around us that we don't always > see or understand. but at the same time, it is also a fact that > these things around us can be controlled by us!! Man uses 8% of his > brainpower.....think about it. where the heck is the 92%?!! we have > all heard stories of people who can do great things.....i have seen > people who can do great thing. not things like materialising object > from the air etc etc...but i shall not go into detail about this.> > i guess there was some side tracking involved in the last paragraph, > but the point i am trying to make is, destiny. it is a very real > thing. now if we talk about the Mahabharata....you think they all > wanted to get into a War? No one wants a War! but destiny and duty > beckoned. each and every person in this great epic was resolved to > destiny, except of course, God himself. so in the same way, if it is > meant to be for you, it will happen. take me for example. who would > have thought a B.Sc student in Singapore would contact a Nadi > astrologer in Pune, and his exact leaf would actually be with him? > on my first try! on the telephone! i did not have to travel to India > (although i really want to again, hopefully soon), just called, and > BAM! my leaf was there. what are the chances of that happening? if > it is meant to happen, it will. thats all i have to say.> > i would like to take this opportunity to thank Mr Kasam for > providing Mr. Murlidharan's number, due to which I have been > successful in my Nadi search. i shall be getting my reading > tomorrow! its so exciting!> > God bless every single person on earth ...even George W. Bush > hahahahaha!> Hare Krishna> > , "rajas_astrology" > <rajas_astrology@> wrote:> >> > Jai Gurudev!!!> > > > Dear Friends,> > sorry for not being in touch for a long time due to busy office > > schedule!!!> > I saw many people criticising on nadi astrology, its prediction > and > > questions like whether the nadi centres/readers are in for just > > business/ making money?> > > > I want to suggest/advice to these people that if they have really > made > > up their mind that it is all fake then why they are wasting their > time > > here?> > I guess that it is in the interest of the Group to have healthy > open > > ended discussions and debates on this subject matter and not just > > prejudiced views either in favour or agaisnt nadi astrology...> > > > Now, based on my direct/indirect experience, i want to put few > points:> > > > I have seen nadi readers spedning tiem to find the nadi leaf for > hours > > without any luck... if the leaf is not found, they do not charge a > > single penny for their time & efforts.... is it a sign of pure > business > > minded people? i have personally spent whole day with nadi reader > > wiwithout finding a single nadi leaf which means the nadi reader > did > > not earn anything during that day/s....> > in todays world, how many professions u will find like this, even > in > > astrology that u will be charged not in advance but at the end of > the > > day and only if there is a positive outcome; else no charge?????> > > > I saw few people claiming that the parihars are just way of > gettign > > money from us....> > > > in pariharas - the shanti parihara in which normally it is advised > to > > visit certain temples - what is nadi reader going to earn out of > that?> > > > in diksha kandam - yes u have to pay for certain puja to be > performed > > for given no. of times - n many cases the nadi reader does not > insist > > on performing puja at their end only.. it is optional to us.. if > we > > want, we can get it done on our own or from other guruji...> > > > my friend has seen some cases where - it was mentioned in nadi > reading > > that the reader will not charge anything for the puja performance, > and > > in some cases, the nadi reader has to bear the expenses of the > puja... > > what can be business intention involved in this???> > > > there are some real life experiences when the person has performed > the > > pariharas and is benefited from the same - what explanation we can > give > > to it? will we say that it can be just a fluke?> > > > I'll certainly not claim that all the nadi readers and centres > are/will > > be good ones but then in todays world which profession is left > without > > fake cases? even fields like medicine, teaching is spoiled....> > > > so friends, it may be possible that in many cases, future > predictions > > are not coming true, but then if we know that in some cases they > are > > coming true, we need to logically find out the reasons for those > > success stories before concluding that it is all fake...> > > > and forget about the future preductions, what about the past & > present?> > how come if the correct nadi leaf is found, the names, and > past/present > > comes almost 100% correct???> > I know many people claim that these readers collect information > from us > > thru question answer sessiona nd then reproduce as if it is > written in > > the nadi leaf... but I strongly disagree with this based on my own > > direct experiences....> > I haev seen cases where not a single name our of the relations > were > > disclosed to the reader from the earlier discussions and when the > > correct leaf was found, all the names came perfect...> > i have seen cases where just 3rd/4th nadi leaf picked up was the > one.. > > so there was no exchange of information at all before finding the > nadi > > leaf... so it is just impossible fot the reader to find out all > this > > information before hand or at the time of meeting...> > > > I am a astrolger and in all the readings i do verify the planatory > > position - the reader does not have enough time to go back refer > > panchang to see what was the planatory position on the date and > time of > > birth of the person and then furnish the information.... and i > ahve > > verified that once the leaf was found, other information was > matched, > > the planatory position were also find almost 100% matching.... > with the > > computerised birth chart.... and in many cases the lagna sign was > also > > mentioned in the reading and the same was also matched.... now the > > lagna sign changes every 2 hours... it is difficult for the reader > to > > find out by any way what was lagna sign on given date and time and > > place of birth without referring to panchang or internet.. which > he > > does not do.....> > > > so there are really so many things which really need to be looked > into > > before making any comment on it....> > > > I'll end up my discussion with one example which i have quoted > earlier -> > > > in one case - the lady was pregnant - due date was after 4 weeks, > she > > was not having any labour pains and she herself visited the centre > for > > reading... and the reading said that she is going to deliver a > baby boy > > tomorrow.... no one believed from her family, till in midnight, > she > > started feeling labour pain, she was hospitalised and gave birth > to a a > > baby boy...> > > > another example - in a widow lady's future prediction it was > mentioned > > that she will have a 2nd marriage... she had no such intention and > she > > strongly said that this prediction is going to be false one... but > ina > > year's time things happened in such way that she eventually got > married > > and prediction came true...> > > > in a boy's reading - details about his would be wife were given > and he > > ended up marrying with a girl with all the predictions matching > 100%....> > > > Hope this will create some thought process in ur mind and u feel > like > > coming forward, and in a joint efforts wth this group as a > platform, > > contribute for doing more research on this subject matter for the > > betterment of the humankind...> > > > May God Bless You> > > > Regards> > > > Rajas> > > > for more information, u can refer my earlier messeges and postings > in > > files section.> > You can also reach me at - > > rajas.khaladkar@ to ahve further discussion on the subject > > matter> >> Share life's special moments with Photo Gallery. 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Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Dear Sanatkumarji , I am extremely sorry for my harsh words to you. I deeply apologise for the same. I was not aware that you are aged 74, and my culture does not teach me to insult elderly people. I was under the impression that you are just like those other members on the forum we see, who are busy trying to earn name and fame at the cost of attacking others. About astrology and astrologers, let me say that I too have been through a bad experience with astrologers in my earlier days, which is why i entered this field to understand whether it is real or bogus. And by Gods grace I have been successfull 75 out of 100 times in predictions if not more. These credentials can be checked with the feedbacks of various members all over the jyotish forums, and one can verify whether they are real people or not. And few foreginers would also vouch for the accuracy who have challenged me. I have not a single fake id credited to me, who has given me a good feedback. I am utmost honest here. I do not like the games most astrologers are playing today, and remain indifferent to these people and their tactics and do not approve them. As a repentance for talking harshly with an elderly man, I will now stop writing here , from now on. kind regards, Bhaskar. , " sanat2221 " <sanatkumar_jain wrote: > > > > > Resp. Deshmukh Ji, > Namaskar, > Thanks for your msg and experience on Nadi astrology. > > After going through the attached file narrating your experience; I > have just picked 3 following points in reverse order (from your msg) > for further discussion. > > 1. (present status) At age 74, Iam quite contended and with > peace with myself. > 2. (Philosophical part)………I realised that all of us follow our > programme in our own unique way whether we like it or not……… I was > destined to marry the same lady regardless! It dawned on me that Iwas > actually following a > script/programme already written for me complete with > dramatis personae like the names of persons and their > relationship clearly defined in the drama called LIFE!............. > 3. (Actual incident) ………. I had no say whatsoever about > my identity like my name,my parent's name,the no. of > my brothers and sisters who were alive at that > time.However, the climaxing point was when the name of > my wife was disclosed by Rajnikbhai,the Naadi reader……….. > > We will continue our interaction in above framework (you can add any > point if you wish). > > So first of all I will like to say that at this stage of life, when > you have achieved containment (in my opinion it is the best position > when you are fully satisfied with your present position and it is > golden period of life.). It is immaterial how you achieved this > position. It may be after some physical achievement, if may be after > earning money, it may be after settling your children, it may be any > one's philosophical thought (irrespective of religion, because one > may be of any religion)……….. and so on. So long one is not satisfied > with his present, he will continue to struggle, try to find out some > short cut (in the form of knowing future, some remedy to alter future > and so on, which is the fertile land for astrologers). You have > achieved this containment from Nadi shastra. So are you ready to > analyze your path, without disturbing your present containment. > Because our mind set is always different then actual truth. We are > more attached with our mind set and do not like to change it in any > case. > > For example. If I am afraid of snakes then it is my mind set and I > will never change it despite I know that only 4 type of snakes are > poisonous even then I will not allow any other snake in my house. > Why, because mindset and knowledge (truth) are always pole apart. In > the forum we are discussing truth and not on the mindset of group of > astrologers or believer. Hence it is academic and not personal. Thus > it is for every member to decide himself as to how much he can modify > his mind set towards truth. > > So will you like that I may analyze second point (philosophy) which > may be against your present mindset. Hence perhaps you may not be > able to accept it until unless you have open mind and ready to accept > opposite views. > > So long 3rd point is concerned I will like to request you to narrate > in detail, after you entered in the house (Nadi) and till he finishes > his circus. Because secret of Nadi is only here (on the basis of > disclosing this secret to Nadi astrologer, he has immediately > refunded the amount to my friend) and it is neither in 2nd part nor > in 1st part nor it has any relation with 2nd or 1st point. 2nd part > is product of incident and your till that date experience, whereas > 1st part is directly product of 2nd part. > > After hearing from you (about 1st and 3rd point) I will continue on > 2nd and 3rd point. I am changing the heading of the msg for proper > linking. > > Thanks for sharing your views. Take care of health. > > Yours truly, > > Sanat > > PS: You have also intimated in your msg of 3-10-8 that you will like > to share your views on " destiny …….. " based on my blog " Astrology a > science or myth " . I am waiting for that too. > > > > > , vbdeshmukh deshmukhv@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Sanat ji, > > I am attaching a file in which I have given the > > details of my first visit to Naadi/Samhita Reader more > > than twenty years ago.Actually, this post was > > addressed to the Moderator of Naadiastrology Group at > > the time of joining the group. I hope this would be of > > some interest to the members in this group. > > Regds., > > VB Deshmukh > > --- sanat2221 sanatkumar_jain@ wrote: > > > > > Resp Ms Dipika ji and Ghopal ji, > > > Namaskar, > > > We have just touched the point of NADI, 2 or 3 times > > > but without any > > > followup. In response of msg >>>> Mahaguru KSK said > > > the NADi > > > astrology is 100% correct and its handlers are 99% > > > wrong.<<<<<, I > > > commented earlier that NADi astrology is 100% wrong > > > and its handlers > > > are 99% right as they are able to earn their > > > livelihood. > > > > > > I have always asked to the members that whether they > > > have visited the > > > place of NADI. But so far not a single member has > > > come forward with > > > +ve answer. > > > > > > Because you are very important members of the forum, > > > Hence I will > > > like to inform you that on insisting of a friend, I > > > visited the place > > > of NADI and after deeply observing the full > > > procedure from the very > > > beginning to the payment of money (as my friend was > > > fully convinced) > > > and confirmation of delivery of horoscope and > > > recorded version of > > > forecast, I was totally silent and in last when I > > > told the cunning > > > astrologer about his trick, which he followed then > > > it was his turn of > > > silence and he immediately return money to my > > > friend, who was also > > > surprised to find the trick. Perhaps I may be the > > > one among few (?) > > > who may have taken back the money by disclosing > > > their trick. > > > > > > Now if some member or you may have visited the site > > > then I will go > > > ahead and not on the basis of some story of MP / > > > MLA. > > > > > > Hope you will continue to share your views. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > Yours truly, > > > Sanat > > > > > > PS > > > Members can see as to how astrologers are busy in > > > forcasting, for > > > promoting their business and when they are asked > > > about the > > > fundamental principles of astrology then they > > > observe silence and > > > other astrologers shield them under the cover of > > > lerner astrologer. > > > If members are interested in loosing their hard > > > earned money for > > > false dreams despite knowing the bogus foundation of > > > predicitive > > > astrology then who can save them? > > > > > > > > > , " dipika > > > blr " > > > <blr.aspirant@> wrote: > > > > > > > > " But did you see at any point of time anything > > > regarding future was > > > > spelt?There are many ways to find the past and few > > > routes to tell > > > you the > > > > future. " > > > > > > > > A Sage who saw 1000s of years future, generally > > > predicts upto your > > > present > > > > age---and very vaguely about your future(While > > > continuing to > > > predict the > > > > pasts of any future such clients) ---food for > > > thought! > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > More than those who hate you, more than all your > > > enemies, an > > > undisciplined * > > > > mind* does greater harm. ~ *Buddha* > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:23 AM, TKP Ghopal > > > <astrogopalji@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Mahaguru KSK said the NADi astrology is 100% > > > correct and its > > > handlers > > > > > are 99% wrong. > > > > > Your refernce of an MP is a testimony no > > > doubt.But did you see at > > > any point > > > > > of time anything regarding future was > > > spelt?There are many ways > > > to find the > > > > > past and few routes to tell you the future. > > > > > Regards > > > > > tkp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/20/08, maheswara_varma > > > <maheswara_varma@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> *An excerpt from an interview with > > > Abdullakutty (Kerala MP) > > > on Nadi > > > > >> Astrology * > > > > >> > > > > >> *Making things worse, you wrote an article > > > in a travel > > > magazine, > > > > >> describing your trip to a Nadi astrologer > > > � where a pandit > > > reads one's > > > > >> destiny through the thumb -- in Tamil Nadu.* > > > > >> ** > > > > >> ** > > > > >> The article was distorted out of proportions by > > > the media, which > > > was > > > > >> totally unneeded. I made the visit out of > > > curiosity and > > > travelled to > > > > >> Thanjavur. Then I shared my experiences with > > > readers. It was > > > meant as just a > > > > >> travelogue. No one should read more into it. > > > > >> > > > > >> *The article was amazingly written. That apart, > > > it is uncommon > > > for a > > > > >> Communist MP -- that too a Muslim -- to visit > > > a Nadi > > > astrologer.* > > > > >> ** > > > > >> I have said why I went. Thanjavur always > > > attracts two kinds of > > > people -- > > > > >> one to know the future, the other tourists. > > > India's culture is > > > different. So > > > > >> is our ethos. There is myth, fact and fiction. > > > I can't run away > > > from the > > > > >> age-old customs and beliefs. There is no harm > > > in visiting such > > > places. But I > > > > >> repeat -- it was pure curiosity that took me > > > there. > > > > >> > > > > >> ** > > > > >> *But you wanted to know your date of birth. (He > > > did not know his > > > exact > > > > >> date). Were you convinced after the visit? * > > > > >> ** > > > > >> Yes, it was an enlightening experience. It was > > > a search for > > > destiny. > > > > >> Whatever they said was almost true. Out of > > > nowhere, an > > > astrologer came with > > > > >> a scripture -- written in ancient Tamil -- and > > > read out all > > > details about > > > > >> my date of birth, including my star. I was > > > stunned. The real > > > shocker came > > > > >> next. The pandit asked me if I was an MLA or > > > MP. Such shockers > > > kept coming. > > > > >> Then came another stunner, " You are not a Hindu > > > and you are an > > > atheist. > > > > >> Neither do you believe in Nadi astrology. " I > > > could not believe > > > myself. Then > > > > >> he started narrating tales from the past, > > > present and future. > > > > >> > > > > >> It is said that details of all human beings > > > were written by > > > sages such as > > > > >> Vashishta, Agastya, Bhrigu and recorded at the > > > Vaitheeswaran > > > Kovil. It was a > > > > >> revelation. A curious mind left with a > > > contended heart > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger./invite/ > > Mail - deshmukhv@ > > My MailGroupsMail Help SearchSearch:Welcome, > deshmukhv > > [sign Out, My Account]Mail Home > > Mail| Contacts| Calendar| Notepad Options Check MailCompose Search > > Mail: Search MailSearch the Web > > > > > > Folders[Add - Edit] > > Inbox (4681) Draft Sent Bulk (34)[Empty] Trash[Empty] My > Folders[Hide] > > 123 > > Search Shortcuts > > My Photos My Attachments > > Cricket > > scores & more > > Previous | Next | Back to Messages > > DeleteReplyForwardMove... > > Printable View This message is not flagged. [ Flag Message - > Mark as > > Unread ] > > Date:Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:12:39 +0000 (GMT) > > " vbdeshmukh " deshmukhv@ View Contact Details > > Subject:Re: : Welcome to . > Visit today! > > " Moderator " <- > owner > > CC:deshmukhv@ > > Dear Sir, > > Thank You for accepting me as a member of your august > > group. > > I had my first brush with Naadi/ Samhita Astrology > > more than twenty years ago ! My meeting with > > Naadi/Samhita astrologer Shri Rajnikbhai ( also known > > as Chhayashastri ) at his office cum residence at > > Lamington Rd. was not at all on my cards when I > > happened to be in Bombay\Mumbai for a technical > > seminar. However, when I learnt that the said seminar > > was postponed due to unavoidable circumstances I took > > the opportunity to look him up him and what followed > > was a mind boggling experience !!It shattered my ego > > that I could take charge of my life and do exactly > > what I wished to do in my life.The first thing that I > > realised was that that I had no say whatsoever about > > my identity like my name,my parent's name,the no. of > > my brothers and sisters who were alive at that > > time.However, the climaxing point was when the name of > > my wife was disclosed by Rajnikbhai,the Naadi reader. > > I had married a lady after my own heart and it created > > a stir and opposition from my ortohdox family because > > she belonged to a different caste ! I thought I did a > > great thing by doing what I considered was my > > prerogative to exercise my option of free will to > > decide what was best im my own interest little knowing > > that I was destined to marry the same lady regardless > > ! It dawned on me that Iwas actually following a > > script/programme already written for me complete with > > dramatis personae like the names of persons and their > > relationship clearly defined in the drama called LIFE! > > (Did'nt Shakespere say that the world is a stage and > > that we are all actors or some thing like that ? )Did > > I really Have a choice or do I have any choice in > > life? I was convinced that I like all others was > > already programmed when I was born. My unique genetic > > make up / genetic predesposition ensured at all times > > that my physical, mental and emotional responses were > > as outlined by the programme at the byte > > level/micro/sookshma level at any given time or > > situation. I realised that all of us follow our > > programme in our own unique way whether we like it or > > not.It is the Supreme Will of the Creator that even in > > the most intimate relationship the progrmmes of any > > two individuals would never-ever match upto 100% !Thre > > is simply no duplication in the programme as you do > > not find duplication in nature or the creation.After > > meeting the Naadi-astrologer,my outlook on life was > > totally changed.I began to accept myself as Iam and > > accept others too as they are-good, bad or ugly. They > > are there because of their programme about which they > > have no choice as much as I do not have.We are bound > > by this programme which is nothing but our destiny or > > Fate over which we simply have no control!I ceased to > > hate or despise anybody including those who can be > > called enemies who are absent in my life because of my > > altered perception. At age 74, Iam quite contended and > > with peace with myself. > > After my first meeting with Naadi-astrologer, I became > > crazy with Naadi/ Samhitas and experienced no. of > > them all over India with friends and relatives.with > > various results which ranged from Divine to plain > > rubbish !! No regrets. > > However, as a student of Astrology for over 18 years, > > I can venture to say that Naadi Shastra is not > > astrology which is based on Astronomy but a system of > > divination based on its own parameters which are > > simply beyond human definations. I am therefore not at > > all in favour of clubbing Naadi with astrology which I > > consider a misnomer. > > I have some more things to share with our Group but > > for now I would like to sign off. > > Thanking you once again and with very warm regards, > > VB Deshmukh/ Thane/ Maharashtra. > > > > > > > > > > Moderator > > -owner wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Welcome to the group at > > > Groups, a > > > group dedicated for discussion of Naadi Astrology > > > and for sharing and Interacting with Naadi > > > Enthusiasts of their experinces with Naadi > > > predictions. > > > > > > To learn more about the group, please > > > visit > > > . If you > > > are new to Naadi Predictions please read the > > > document titled " Nadi Astrology - An > > > Introduction.doc " from the Files section. > > > > > > DO NOT REGISTER TO PROMOTE YOUR SITES OR SALES OR > > > POST ANY IN THIS FORUM. 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Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 ll HARE RAM llMy dear Bhaskar bhai, Ram Ram! Some times we make some mistakes in our life knowingly or unknowingly in our life but to do realize about the same timely & to show apology for such mistakes is much more important and of course big heart is needed to say sorry that you really have.I appreciate you heartly for your great act.God bless you. Yours Shashi Shekher "Shaaswat" Shashi S.Sharma [Vedic Astrologer & Gems Advisor] Cell-09818310075 [Member-Planetary Gemologists Association,Bangkok,Thailand] www.freewebs.com/astroremedies[Private consultation is chargeable.Please contact me in polite.astro ]--- On Sat, 10/25/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Nadi astrology Date: Saturday, October 25, 2008, 11:43 PM Dear Sanatkumarji ,I am extremely sorry for my harsh words to you. I deeply apologise forthe same. I was not aware that you are aged 74, and my culture does notteach me to insult elderly people. I was under the impression that youare just like those other members on the forum we see, who are busytrying to earn name and fame at the cost of attacking others.About astrology and astrologers, let me say that I too have been througha bad experience with astrologers in my earlier days, which is why ientered this field to understand whether it is real or bogus. And byGods grace I have been successfull 75 out of 100 times in predictions ifnot more. These credentials can be checked with the feedbacks of variousmembers all over the jyotish forums, and one can verify whether they arereal people or not. And few foreginers would also vouch for the accuracywho have challenged me. I have not a single fake id credited to me, whohas given me a good feedback. I am utmost honest here. I do not like thegames most astrologers are playing today, and remain indifferent tothese people and their tactics and do not approve them.As a repentance for talking harshly with an elderly man, I will now stopwriting here , from now on.kind regards,Bhaskar., "sanat2221"<sanatkumar_ jain wrote:>>>>> Resp. Deshmukh Ji,> Namaskar,> Thanks for your msg and experience on Nadi astrology.>> After going through the attached file narrating your experience; I> have just picked 3 following points in reverse order (from your msg)> for further discussion.>> 1. (present status) At age 74, Iam quite contended and with> peace with myself.> 2. (Philosophical part)………I realised that all of us follow our> programme in our own unique way whether we like it or not……… Iwas> destined to marry the same lady regardless! It dawned on me that Iwas> actually following a> script/programme already written for me complete with> dramatis personae like the names of persons and their> relationship clearly defined in the drama called LIFE!....... ......> 3. (Actual incident) ………. I had no say whatsoever about> my identity like my name,my parent's name,the no. of> my brothers and sisters who were alive at that> time.However, the climaxing point was when the name of> my wife was disclosed by Rajnikbhai,the Naadi reader………..>> We will continue our interaction in above framework (you can add any> point if you wish).>> So first of all I will like to say that at this stage of life, when> you have achieved containment (in my opinion it is the best position> when you are fully satisfied with your present position and it is> golden period of life.). It is immaterial how you achieved this> position. It may be after some physical achievement, if may be after> earning money, it may be after settling your children, it may be any> one's philosophical thought (irrespective of religion, because one> may be of any religion)……….. and so on. So long one is notsatisfied> with his present, he will continue to struggle, try to find out some> short cut (in the form of knowing future, some remedy to alter future> and so on, which is the fertile land for astrologers) . You have> achieved this containment from Nadi shastra. So are you ready to> analyze your path, without disturbing your present containment.> Because our mind set is always different then actual truth. We are> more attached with our mind set and do not like to change it in any> case.>> For example. If I am afraid of snakes then it is my mind set and I> will never change it despite I know that only 4 type of snakes are> poisonous even then I will not allow any other snake in my house.> Why, because mindset and knowledge (truth) are always pole apart. In> the forum we are discussing truth and not on the mindset of group of> astrologers or believer. Hence it is academic and not personal. Thus> it is for every member to decide himself as to how much he can modify> his mind set towards truth.>> So will you like that I may analyze second point (philosophy) which> may be against your present mindset. Hence perhaps you may not be> able to accept it until unless you have open mind and ready to accept> opposite views.>> So long 3rd point is concerned I will like to request you to narrate> in detail, after you entered in the house (Nadi) and till he finishes> his circus. Because secret of Nadi is only here (on the basis of> disclosing this secret to Nadi astrologer, he has immediately> refunded the amount to my friend) and it is neither in 2nd part nor> in 1st part nor it has any relation with 2nd or 1st point. 2nd part> is product of incident and your till that date experience, whereas> 1st part is directly product of 2nd part.>> After hearing from you (about 1st and 3rd point) I will continue on> 2nd and 3rd point. I am changing the heading of the msg for proper> linking.>> Thanks for sharing your views. Take care of health.>> Yours truly,>> Sanat>> PS: You have also intimated in your msg of 3-10-8 that you will like> to share your views on "destiny …….." based on my blog "Astrologya> science or myth". I am waiting for that too.>>>>> , vbdeshmukh deshmukhv@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sanat ji,> > I am attaching a file in which I have given the> > details of my first visit to Naadi/Samhita Reader more> > than twenty years ago.Actually, this post was> > addressed to the Moderator of Naadiastrology Group at> > the time of joining the group. I hope this would be of> > some interest to the members in this group.> > Regds.,> > VB Deshmukh> > --- sanat2221 sanatkumar_jain@ wrote:> >> > > Resp Ms Dipika ji and Ghopal ji,> > > Namaskar,> > > We have just touched the point of NADI, 2 or 3 times> > > but without any> > > followup. In response of msg >>>> Mahaguru KSK said> > > the NADi> > > astrology is 100% correct and its handlers are 99%> > > wrong.<<<<<, I> > > commented earlier that NADi astrology is 100% wrong> > > and its handlers> > > are 99% right as they are able to earn their> > > livelihood.> > >> > > I have always asked to the members that whether they> > > have visited the> > > place of NADI. But so far not a single member has> > > come forward with> > > +ve answer.> > >> > > Because you are very important members of the forum,> > > Hence I will> > > like to inform you that on insisting of a friend, I> > > visited the place> > > of NADI and after deeply observing the full> > > procedure from the very> > > beginning to the payment of money (as my friend was> > > fully convinced)> > > and confirmation of delivery of horoscope and> > > recorded version of> > > forecast, I was totally silent and in last when I> > > told the cunning> > > astrologer about his trick, which he followed then> > > it was his turn of> > > silence and he immediately return money to my> > > friend, who was also> > > surprised to find the trick. Perhaps I may be the> > > one among few (?)> > > who may have taken back the money by disclosing> > > their trick.> > >> > > Now if some member or you may have visited the site> > > then I will go> > > ahead and not on the basis of some story of MP /> > > MLA.> > >> > > Hope you will continue to share your views.> > >> > > Thanks.> > > Yours truly,> > > Sanat> > >> > > PS> > > Members can see as to how astrologers are busy in> > > forcasting, for> > > promoting their business and when they are asked> > > about the> > > fundamental principles of astrology then they> > > observe silence and> > > other astrologers shield them under the cover of> > > lerner astrologer.> > > If members are interested in loosing their hard> > > earned money for> > > false dreams despite knowing the bogus foundation of> > > predicitive> > > astrology then who can save them?> > >> > >> > > , "dipika> > > blr"> > > <blr.aspirant@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > "But did you see at any point of time anything> > > regarding future was> > > > spelt?There are many ways to find the past and few> > > routes to tell> > > you the> > > > future."> > > >> > > > A Sage who saw 1000s of years future, generally> > > predicts upto your> > > present> > > > age---and very vaguely about your future(While> > > continuing to> > > predict the> > > > pasts of any future such clients) ---food for> > > thought!> > > >> > > > regards> > > >> > > > More than those who hate you, more than all your> > > enemies, an> > > undisciplined *> > > > mind* does greater harm. ~ *Buddha*> > > >> > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:23 AM, TKP Ghopal> > > <astrogopalji@ >> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > > Mahaguru KSK said the NADi astrology is 100%> > > correct and its> > > handlers> > > > > are 99% wrong.> > > > > Your refernce of an MP is a testimony no> > > doubt.But did you see at> > > any point> > > > > of time anything regarding future was> > > spelt?There are many ways> > > to find the> > > > > past and few routes to tell you the future.> > > > > Regards> > > > > tkp> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On 10/20/08, maheswara_varma> > > <maheswara_varma@ > wrote:> > > > >>> > > > >> *An excerpt from an interview with> > > Abdullakutty (Kerala MP)> > > on Nadi> > > > >> Astrology *> > > > >>> > > > >> *Making things worse, you wrote an article> > > in a travel> > > magazine,> > > > >> describing your trip to a Nadi astrologer> > > � where a pandit> > > reads one's> > > > >> destiny through the thumb -- in Tamil Nadu.*> > > > >> **> > > > >> **> > > > >> The article was distorted out of proportions by> > > the media, which> > > was> > > > >> totally unneeded. I made the visit out of> > > curiosity and> > > travelled to> > > > >> Thanjavur. Then I shared my experiences with> > > readers. It was> > > meant as just a> > > > >> travelogue. No one should read more into it.> > > > >>> > > > >> *The article was amazingly written. That apart,> > > it is uncommon> > > for a> > > > >> Communist MP -- that too a Muslim -- to visit> > > a Nadi> > > astrologer.*> > > > >> **> > > > >> I have said why I went. Thanjavur always> > > attracts two kinds of> > > people --> > > > >> one to know the future, the other tourists.> > > India's culture is> > > different. So> > > > >> is our ethos. There is myth, fact and fiction.> > > I can't run away> > > from the> > > > >> age-old customs and beliefs. There is no harm> > > in visiting such> > > places. But I> > > > >> repeat -- it was pure curiosity that took me> > > there.> > > > >>> > > > >> **> > > > >> *But you wanted to know your date of birth. (He> > > did not know his> > > exact> > > > >> date). Were you convinced after the visit? *> > > > >> **> > > > >> Yes, it was an enlightening experience. It was> > > a search for> > > destiny.> > > > >> Whatever they said was almost true. Out of> > > nowhere, an> > > astrologer came with> > > > >> a scripture -- written in ancient Tamil -- and> > > read out all> > > details about> > > > >> my date of birth, including my star. I was> > > stunned. The real> > > shocker came> > > > >> next. The pandit asked me if I was an MLA or> > > MP. Such shockers> > > kept coming.> > > > >> Then came another stunner, "You are not a Hindu> > > and you are an> > > atheist.> > > > >> Neither do you believe in Nadi astrology." I> > > could not believe> > > myself. Then> > > > >> he started narrating tales from the past,> > > present and future.> > > > >>> > > > >> It is said that details of all human beings> > > were written by> > > sages such as> > > > >> Vashishta, Agastya, Bhrigu and recorded at the> > > Vaitheeswaran> > > Kovil. It was a> > > > >> revelation. A curious mind left with a> > > contended heart> > >> > === message truncated ===> >> >> >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> http://messenger. / invite/> > Mail - deshmukhv@> > My MailGroupsMai l Help SearchSearch: Welcome,> deshmukhv> > [sign Out, My Account]Mail Home> > Mail| Contacts| Calendar| Notepad Options Check MailCompose Search> > Mail: Search MailSearch the Web> >> >> > Folders[Add - Edit]> > Inbox (4681) Draft Sent Bulk (34)[Empty] Trash[Empty] My> Folders[Hide]> > 123> > Search Shortcuts> > My Photos My Attachments> > Cricket> > scores & more> > Previous | Next | Back to Messages> > DeleteReplyForwardM ove...> > Printable View This message is not flagged. [ Flag Message -> Mark as> > Unread ]> > Date:Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:12:39 +0000 (GMT)> > "vbdeshmukh" deshmukhv@ View Contact Details> > Subject:Re: : Welcome to .> Visit today!> > To:" Moderator" <-> owner > > CC:deshmukhv@> > Dear Sir,> > Thank You for accepting me as a member of your august> > group.> > I had my first brush with Naadi/ Samhita Astrology> > more than twenty years ago ! My meeting with> > Naadi/Samhita astrologer Shri Rajnikbhai ( also known> > as Chhayashastri ) at his office cum residence at> > Lamington Rd. was not at all on my cards when I> > happened to be in Bombay\Mumbai for a technical> > seminar. However, when I learnt that the said seminar> > was postponed due to unavoidable circumstances I took> > the opportunity to look him up him and what followed> > was a mind boggling experience !!It shattered my ego> > that I could take charge of my life and do exactly> > what I wished to do in my life.The first thing that I> > realised was that that I had no say whatsoever about> > my identity like my name,my parent's name,the no. of> > my brothers and sisters who were alive at that> > time.However, the climaxing point was when the name of> > my wife was disclosed by Rajnikbhai,the Naadi reader.> > I had married a lady after my own heart and it created> > a stir and opposition from my ortohdox family because> > she belonged to a different caste ! I thought I did a> > great thing by doing what I considered was my> > prerogative to exercise my option of free will to> > decide what was best im my own interest little knowing> > that I was destined to marry the same lady regardless> > ! It dawned on me that Iwas actually following a> > script/programme already written for me complete with> > dramatis personae like the names of persons and their> > relationship clearly defined in the drama called LIFE!> > (Did'nt Shakespere say that the world is a stage and> > that we are all actors or some thing like that ? )Did> > I really Have a choice or do I have any choice in> > life? I was convinced that I like all others was> > already programmed when I was born. My unique genetic> > make up / genetic predesposition ensured at all times> > that my physical, mental and emotional responses were> > as outlined by the programme at the byte> > level/micro/ sookshma level at any given time or> > situation. I realised that all of us follow our> > programme in our own unique way whether we like it or> > not.It is the Supreme Will of the Creator that even in> > the most intimate relationship the progrmmes of any> > two individuals would never-ever match upto 100% !Thre> > is simply no duplication in the programme as you do> > not find duplication in nature or the creation.After> > meeting the Naadi-astrologer, my outlook on life was> > totally changed.I began to accept myself as Iam and> > accept others too as they are-good, bad or ugly. They> > are there because of their programme about which they> > have no choice as much as I do not have.We are bound> > by this programme which is nothing but our destiny or> > Fate over which we simply have no control!I ceased to> > hate or despise anybody including those who can be> > called enemies who are absent in my life because of my> > altered perception. At age 74, Iam quite contended and> > with peace with myself.> > After my first meeting with Naadi-astrologer, I became> > crazy with Naadi/ Samhitas and experienced no. of> > them all over India with friends and relatives.with> > various results which ranged from Divine to plain> > rubbish !! No regrets.> > However, as a student of Astrology for over 18 years,> > I can venture to say that Naadi Shastra is not> > astrology which is based on Astronomy but a system of> > divination based on its own parameters which are> > simply beyond human definations. I am therefore not at> > all in favour of clubbing Naadi with astrology which I> > consider a misnomer.> > I have some more things to share with our Group but> > for now I would like to sign off.> > Thanking you once again and with very warm regards,> > VB Deshmukh/ Thane/ Maharashtra.> >> >> >> >> > Moderator> > - owner@ s.com wrote:> >> > >> > > Hello,> > >> > > Welcome to the group at > > > Groups, a> > > group dedicated for discussion of Naadi Astrology> > > and for sharing and Interacting with Naadi> > > Enthusiasts of their experinces with Naadi> > > predictions.> > >> > > To learn more about the group, please> > > visit> > > http://groups. / group/naadiastro logy. If you> > > are new to Naadi Predictions please read the> > > document titled "Nadi Astrology - An> > > Introduction. doc" from the Files section.> > >> > > DO NOT REGISTER TO PROMOTE YOUR SITES OR SALES OR> > > POST ANY IN THIS FORUM. 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Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Bhaskarji, Mr. Sanat has Quoted Mr. Deshmukhs reference. Mr.Sanat has not mentioned that he is 74 years. Deshmukhji has mentioned that he is 74 years that was mentioned by Mr. Sanat. This is for your info. regards, Harish From: bhaskar_jyotishDate: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:13:14 +0000 Re: Nadi astrology Dear Sanatkumarji ,I am extremely sorry for my harsh words to you. I deeply apologise forthe same. I was not aware that you are aged 74, and my culture does notteach me to insult elderly people. I was under the impression that youare just like those other members on the forum we see, who are busytrying to earn name and fame at the cost of attacking others.About astrology and astrologers, let me say that I too have been througha bad experience with astrologers in my earlier days, which is why ientered this field to understand whether it is real or bogus. And byGods grace I have been successfull 75 out of 100 times in predictions ifnot more. These credentials can be checked with the feedbacks of variousmembers all over the jyotish forums, and one can verify whether they arereal people or not. And few foreginers would also vouch for the accuracywho have challenged me. I have not a single fake id credited to me, whohas given me a good feedback. I am utmost honest here. I do not like thegames most astrologers are playing today, and remain indifferent tothese people and their tactics and do not approve them.As a repentance for talking harshly with an elderly man, I will now stopwriting here , from now on.kind regards,Bhaskar. , "sanat2221"<sanatkumar_jain wrote:>>>>> Resp. Deshmukh Ji,> Namaskar,> Thanks for your msg and experience on Nadi astrology.>> After going through the attached file narrating your experience; I> have just picked 3 following points in reverse order (from your msg)> for further discussion.>> 1. (present status) At age 74, Iam quite contended and with> peace with myself.> 2. (Philosophical part)………I realised that all of us follow our> programme in our own unique way whether we like it or not……… Iwas> destined to marry the same lady regardless! It dawned on me that Iwas> actually following a> script/programme already written for me complete with> dramatis personae like the names of persons and their> relationship clearly defined in the drama called LIFE!.............> 3. (Actual incident) ………. I had no say whatsoever about> my identity like my name,my parent's name,the no. of> my brothers and sisters who were alive at that> time.However, the climaxing point was when the name of> my wife was disclosed by Rajnikbhai,the Naadi reader………..>> We will continue our interaction in above framework (you can add any> point if you wish).>> So first of all I will like to say that at this stage of life, when> you have achieved containment (in my opinion it is the best position> when you are fully satisfied with your present position and it is> golden period of life.). It is immaterial how you achieved this> position. It may be after some physical achievement, if may be after> earning money, it may be after settling your children, it may be any> one's philosophical thought (irrespective of religion, because one> may be of any religion)……….. and so on. So long one is notsatisfied> with his present, he will continue to struggle, try to find out some> short cut (in the form of knowing future, some remedy to alter future> and so on, which is the fertile land for astrologers). You have> achieved this containment from Nadi shastra. So are you ready to> analyze your path, without disturbing your present containment.> Because our mind set is always different then actual truth. We are> more attached with our mind set and do not like to change it in any> case.>> For example. If I am afraid of snakes then it is my mind set and I> will never change it despite I know that only 4 type of snakes are> poisonous even then I will not allow any other snake in my house.> Why, because mindset and knowledge (truth) are always pole apart. In> the forum we are discussing truth and not on the mindset of group of> astrologers or believer. Hence it is academic and not personal. Thus> it is for every member to decide himself as to how much he can modify> his mind set towards truth.>> So will you like that I may analyze second point (philosophy) which> may be against your present mindset. Hence perhaps you may not be> able to accept it until unless you have open mind and ready to accept> opposite views.>> So long 3rd point is concerned I will like to request you to narrate> in detail, after you entered in the house (Nadi) and till he finishes> his circus. Because secret of Nadi is only here (on the basis of> disclosing this secret to Nadi astrologer, he has immediately> refunded the amount to my friend) and it is neither in 2nd part nor> in 1st part nor it has any relation with 2nd or 1st point. 2nd part> is product of incident and your till that date experience, whereas> 1st part is directly product of 2nd part.>> After hearing from you (about 1st and 3rd point) I will continue on> 2nd and 3rd point. I am changing the heading of the msg for proper> linking.>> Thanks for sharing your views. Take care of health.>> Yours truly,>> Sanat>> PS: You have also intimated in your msg of 3-10-8 that you will like> to share your views on "destiny …….." based on my blog "Astrologya> science or myth". I am waiting for that too.>>>>> , vbdeshmukh deshmukhv@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sanat ji,> > I am attaching a file in which I have given the> > details of my first visit to Naadi/Samhita Reader more> > than twenty years ago.Actually, this post was> > addressed to the Moderator of Naadiastrology Group at> > the time of joining the group. I hope this would be of> > some interest to the members in this group.> > Regds.,> > VB Deshmukh> > --- sanat2221 sanatkumar_jain@ wrote:> >> > > Resp Ms Dipika ji and Ghopal ji,> > > Namaskar,> > > We have just touched the point of NADI, 2 or 3 times> > > but without any> > > followup. In response of msg >>>> Mahaguru KSK said> > > the NADi> > > astrology is 100% correct and its handlers are 99%> > > wrong.<<<<<, I> > > commented earlier that NADi astrology is 100% wrong> > > and its handlers> > > are 99% right as they are able to earn their> > > livelihood.> > >> > > I have always asked to the members that whether they> > > have visited the> > > place of NADI. But so far not a single member has> > > come forward with> > > +ve answer.> > >> > > Because you are very important members of the forum,> > > Hence I will> > > like to inform you that on insisting of a friend, I> > > visited the place> > > of NADI and after deeply observing the full> > > procedure from the very> > > beginning to the payment of money (as my friend was> > > fully convinced)> > > and confirmation of delivery of horoscope and> > > recorded version of> > > forecast, I was totally silent and in last when I> > > told the cunning> > > astrologer about his trick, which he followed then> > > it was his turn of> > > silence and he immediately return money to my> > > friend, who was also> > > surprised to find the trick. Perhaps I may be the> > > one among few (?)> > > who may have taken back the money by disclosing> > > their trick.> > >> > > Now if some member or you may have visited the site> > > then I will go> > > ahead and not on the basis of some story of MP /> > > MLA.> > >> > > Hope you will continue to share your views.> > >> > > Thanks.> > > Yours truly,> > > Sanat> > >> > > PS> > > Members can see as to how astrologers are busy in> > > forcasting, for> > > promoting their business and when they are asked> > > about the> > > fundamental principles of astrology then they> > > observe silence and> > > other astrologers shield them under the cover of> > > lerner astrologer.> > > If members are interested in loosing their hard> > > earned money for> > > false dreams despite knowing the bogus foundation of> > > predicitive> > > astrology then who can save them?> > >> > >> > > , "dipika> > > blr"> > > <blr.aspirant@> wrote:> > > >> > > > "But did you see at any point of time anything> > > regarding future was> > > > spelt?There are many ways to find the past and few> > > routes to tell> > > you the> > > > future."> > > >> > > > A Sage who saw 1000s of years future, generally> > > predicts upto your> > > present> > > > age---and very vaguely about your future(While> > > continuing to> > > predict the> > > > pasts of any future such clients) ---food for> > > thought!> > > >> > > > regards> > > >> > > > More than those who hate you, more than all your> > > enemies, an> > > undisciplined *> > > > mind* does greater harm. ~ *Buddha*> > > >> > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:23 AM, TKP Ghopal> > > <astrogopalji@>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > > Mahaguru KSK said the NADi astrology is 100%> > > correct and its> > > handlers> > > > > are 99% wrong.> > > > > Your refernce of an MP is a testimony no> > > doubt.But did you see at> > > any point> > > > > of time anything regarding future was> > > spelt?There are many ways> > > to find the> > > > > past and few routes to tell you the future.> > > > > Regards> > > > > tkp> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On 10/20/08, maheswara_varma> > > <maheswara_varma@> wrote:> > > > >>> > > > >> *An excerpt from an interview with> > > Abdullakutty (Kerala MP)> > > on Nadi> > > > >> Astrology *> > > > >>> > > > >> *Making things worse, you wrote an article> > > in a travel> > > magazine,> > > > >> describing your trip to a Nadi astrologer> > > � where a pandit> > > reads one's> > > > >> destiny through the thumb -- in Tamil Nadu.*> > > > >> **> > > > >> **> > > > >> The article was distorted out of proportions by> > > the media, which> > > was> > > > >> totally unneeded. I made the visit out of> > > curiosity and> > > travelled to> > > > >> Thanjavur. Then I shared my experiences with> > > readers. It was> > > meant as just a> > > > >> travelogue. No one should read more into it.> > > > >>> > > > >> *The article was amazingly written. That apart,> > > it is uncommon> > > for a> > > > >> Communist MP -- that too a Muslim -- to visit> > > a Nadi> > > astrologer.*> > > > >> **> > > > >> I have said why I went. Thanjavur always> > > attracts two kinds of> > > people --> > > > >> one to know the future, the other tourists.> > > India's culture is> > > different. So> > > > >> is our ethos. There is myth, fact and fiction.> > > I can't run away> > > from the> > > > >> age-old customs and beliefs. There is no harm> > > in visiting such> > > places. But I> > > > >> repeat -- it was pure curiosity that took me> > > there.> > > > >>> > > > >> **> > > > >> *But you wanted to know your date of birth. (He> > > did not know his> > > exact> > > > >> date). Were you convinced after the visit? *> > > > >> **> > > > >> Yes, it was an enlightening experience. It was> > > a search for> > > destiny.> > > > >> Whatever they said was almost true. Out of> > > nowhere, an> > > astrologer came with> > > > >> a scripture -- written in ancient Tamil -- and> > > read out all> > > details about> > > > >> my date of birth, including my star. I was> > > stunned. The real> > > shocker came> > > > >> next. The pandit asked me if I was an MLA or> > > MP. Such shockers> > > kept coming.> > > > >> Then came another stunner, "You are not a Hindu> > > and you are an> > > atheist.> > > > >> Neither do you believe in Nadi astrology." I> > > could not believe> > > myself. Then> > > > >> he started narrating tales from the past,> > > present and future.> > > > >>> > > > >> It is said that details of all human beings> > > were written by> > > sages such as> > > > >> Vashishta, Agastya, Bhrigu and recorded at the> > > Vaitheeswaran> > > Kovil. It was a> > > > >> revelation. A curious mind left with a> > > contended heart> > >> > === message truncated ===> >> >> >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> http://messenger./invite/> > Mail - deshmukhv@> > My MailGroupsMail Help SearchSearch:Welcome,> deshmukhv> > [sign Out, My Account]Mail Home> > Mail| Contacts| Calendar| Notepad Options Check MailCompose Search> > Mail: Search MailSearch the Web> >> >> > Folders[Add - Edit]> > Inbox (4681) Draft Sent Bulk (34)[Empty] Trash[Empty] My> Folders[Hide]> > 123> > Search Shortcuts> > My Photos My Attachments> > Cricket> > scores & more> > Previous | Next | Back to Messages> > DeleteReplyForwardMove...> > Printable View This message is not flagged. [ Flag Message -> Mark as> > Unread ]> > Date:Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:12:39 +0000 (GMT)> > "vbdeshmukh" deshmukhv@ View Contact Details> > Subject:Re: : Welcome to .> Visit today!> > To:" Moderator" <-> owner > > CC:deshmukhv@> > Dear Sir,> > Thank You for accepting me as a member of your august> > group.> > I had my first brush with Naadi/ Samhita Astrology> > more than twenty years ago ! My meeting with> > Naadi/Samhita astrologer Shri Rajnikbhai ( also known> > as Chhayashastri ) at his office cum residence at> > Lamington Rd. was not at all on my cards when I> > happened to be in Bombay\Mumbai for a technical> > seminar. However, when I learnt that the said seminar> > was postponed due to unavoidable circumstances I took> > the opportunity to look him up him and what followed> > was a mind boggling experience !!It shattered my ego> > that I could take charge of my life and do exactly> > what I wished to do in my life.The first thing that I> > realised was that that I had no say whatsoever about> > my identity like my name,my parent's name,the no. of> > my brothers and sisters who were alive at that> > time.However, the climaxing point was when the name of> > my wife was disclosed by Rajnikbhai,the Naadi reader.> > I had married a lady after my own heart and it created> > a stir and opposition from my ortohdox family because> > she belonged to a different caste ! I thought I did a> > great thing by doing what I considered was my> > prerogative to exercise my option of free will to> > decide what was best im my own interest little knowing> > that I was destined to marry the same lady regardless> > ! It dawned on me that Iwas actually following a> > script/programme already written for me complete with> > dramatis personae like the names of persons and their> > relationship clearly defined in the drama called LIFE!> > (Did'nt Shakespere say that the world is a stage and> > that we are all actors or some thing like that ? )Did> > I really Have a choice or do I have any choice in> > life? I was convinced that I like all others was> > already programmed when I was born. My unique genetic> > make up / genetic predesposition ensured at all times> > that my physical, mental and emotional responses were> > as outlined by the programme at the byte> > level/micro/sookshma level at any given time or> > situation. I realised that all of us follow our> > programme in our own unique way whether we like it or> > not.It is the Supreme Will of the Creator that even in> > the most intimate relationship the progrmmes of any> > two individuals would never-ever match upto 100% !Thre> > is simply no duplication in the programme as you do> > not find duplication in nature or the creation.After> > meeting the Naadi-astrologer,my outlook on life was> > totally changed.I began to accept myself as Iam and> > accept others too as they are-good, bad or ugly. They> > are there because of their programme about which they> > have no choice as much as I do not have.We are bound> > by this programme which is nothing but our destiny or> > Fate over which we simply have no control!I ceased to> > hate or despise anybody including those who can be> > called enemies who are absent in my life because of my> > altered perception. At age 74, Iam quite contended and> > with peace with myself.> > After my first meeting with Naadi-astrologer, I became> > crazy with Naadi/ Samhitas and experienced no. of> > them all over India with friends and relatives.with> > various results which ranged from Divine to plain> > rubbish !! No regrets.> > However, as a student of Astrology for over 18 years,> > I can venture to say that Naadi Shastra is not> > astrology which is based on Astronomy but a system of> > divination based on its own parameters which are> > simply beyond human definations. I am therefore not at> > all in favour of clubbing Naadi with astrology which I> > consider a misnomer.> > I have some more things to share with our Group but> > for now I would like to sign off.> > Thanking you once again and with very warm regards,> > VB Deshmukh/ Thane/ Maharashtra.> >> >> >> >> > Moderator> > -owner wrote:> >> > >> > > Hello,> > >> > > Welcome to the group at > > > Groups, a> > > group dedicated for discussion of Naadi Astrology> > > and for sharing and Interacting with Naadi> > > Enthusiasts of their experinces with Naadi> > > predictions.> > >> > > To learn more about the group, please> > > visit> > > . If you> > > are new to Naadi Predictions please read the> > > document titled "Nadi Astrology - An> > > Introduction.doc" from the Files section.> > >> > > DO NOT REGISTER TO PROMOTE YOUR SITES OR SALES OR> > > POST ANY IN THIS FORUM. YOU ARE> > > WASTING TIME!!!> > >> > > YOUR REGISTRATION AND YOUR S WILL BE> > > DELETED WITHIN MINUTES OF POSTING. POSTING ADS IN> > > THIS FORUM IS JUST A WASTE OF YOUR TIME !!!> > >> > >> > > To start sending messages to members of this group,> > > simply> > > send email to > > >> > > If you do not wish to belong to , you> > > may> > > by sending an email to> > > - > > >> > > To see and modify all of your groups, go to> > > /mygroups> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > Moderator, Naadi Astrology> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Harishji, Yes I understood that within minutes of posting my mail, but my apology remains the same still, because I do not really enjoy all this nonsense , and it leaves a bad taste in the mouth, I would still be sorry for all the rubbish I am provocated to write, which bears no solid excuse from my side. regards, Bhaskar. , Harish S <harishastro wrote: > > > Bhaskarji, > > Mr. Sanat has Quoted Mr. Deshmukhs reference. Mr.Sanat has not mentioned that he is 74 years. Deshmukhji has mentioned that he is 74 years that was mentioned by Mr. Sanat. This is for your info. > > regards, > > Harish > > > > : bhaskar_jyotish: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:13:14 +0000 Re: Nadi astrology > > > > > Dear Sanatkumarji ,I am extremely sorry for my harsh words to you. I deeply apologise forthe same. I was not aware that you are aged 74, and my culture does notteach me to insult elderly people. I was under the impression that youare just like those other members on the forum we see, who are busytrying to earn name and fame at the cost of attacking others.About astrology and astrologers, let me say that I too have been througha bad experience with astrologers in my earlier days, which is why ientered this field to understand whether it is real or bogus. And byGods grace I have been successfull 75 out of 100 times in predictions ifnot more. These credentials can be checked with the feedbacks of variousmembers all over the jyotish forums, and one can verify whether they arereal people or not. And few foreginers would also vouch for the accuracywho have challenged me. I have not a single fake id credited to me, whohas given me a good feedback. I am utmost honest here. I do not like thegames most astrologers are playing today, and remain indifferent tothese people and their tactics and do not approve them.As a repentance for talking harshly with an elderly man, I will now stopwriting here , from now on.kind regards,Bhaskar.--- In , " sanat2221 " sanatkumar_jain@ wrote:>>>>> Resp. Deshmukh Ji,> Namaskar,> Thanks for your msg and experience on Nadi astrology.>> After going through the attached file narrating your experience; I> have just picked 3 following points in reverse order (from your msg)> for further discussion.>> 1. (present status) At age 74, Iam quite contended and with> peace with myself.> 2. (Philosophical part)………I realised that all of us follow our> programme in our own unique way whether we like it or not……… Iwas> destined to marry the same lady regardless! It dawned on me that Iwas> actually following a> script/programme already written for me complete with> dramatis personae like the names of persons and their> relationship clearly defined in the drama called LIFE!.............> 3. (Actual incident) ………. I had no say whatsoever about> my identity like my name,my parent's name,the no. of> my brothers and sisters who were alive at that> time.However, the climaxing point was when the name of> my wife was disclosed by Rajnikbhai,the Naadi reader………..>> We will continue our interaction in above framework (you can add any> point if you wish).>> So first of all I will like to say that at this stage of life, when> you have achieved containment (in my opinion it is the best position> when you are fully satisfied with your present position and it is> golden period of life.). It is immaterial how you achieved this> position. It may be after some physical achievement, if may be after> earning money, it may be after settling your children, it may be any> one's philosophical thought (irrespective of religion, because one> may be of any religion)……….. and so on. So long one is notsatisfied> with his present, he will continue to struggle, try to find out some> short cut (in the form of knowing future, some remedy to alter future> and so on, which is the fertile land for astrologers). You have> achieved this containment from Nadi shastra. So are you ready to> analyze your path, without disturbing your present containment.> Because our mind set is always different then actual truth. We are> more attached with our mind set and do not like to change it in any> case.>> For example. If I am afraid of snakes then it is my mind set and I> will never change it despite I know that only 4 type of snakes are> poisonous even then I will not allow any other snake in my house.> Why, because mindset and knowledge (truth) are always pole apart. In> the forum we are discussing truth and not on the mindset of group of> astrologers or believer. Hence it is academic and not personal. Thus> it is for every member to decide himself as to how much he can modify> his mind set towards truth.>> So will you like that I may analyze second point (philosophy) which> may be against your present mindset. Hence perhaps you may not be> able to accept it until unless you have open mind and ready to accept> opposite views.>> So long 3rd point is concerned I will like to request you to narrate> in detail, after you entered in the house (Nadi) and till he finishes> his circus. Because secret of Nadi is only here (on the basis of> disclosing this secret to Nadi astrologer, he has immediately> refunded the amount to my friend) and it is neither in 2nd part nor> in 1st part nor it has any relation with 2nd or 1st point. 2nd part> is product of incident and your till that date experience, whereas> 1st part is directly product of 2nd part.>> After hearing from you (about 1st and 3rd point) I will continue on> 2nd and 3rd point. I am changing the heading of the msg for proper> linking.>> Thanks for sharing your views. Take care of health.>> Yours truly,>> Sanat>> PS: You have also intimated in your msg of 3-10-8 that you will like> to share your views on " destiny …….. " based on my blog " Astrologya> science or myth " . I am waiting for that too.>>>>> --- In , vbdeshmukh deshmukhv@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sanat ji,> > I am attaching a file in which I have given the> > details of my first visit to Naadi/Samhita Reader more> > than twenty years ago.Actually, this post was> > addressed to the Moderator of Naadiastrology Group at> > the time of joining the group. I hope this would be of> > some interest to the members in this group.> > Regds.,> > VB Deshmukh> > --- sanat2221 sanatkumar_jain@ wrote:> >> > > Resp Ms Dipika ji and Ghopal ji,> > > Namaskar,> > > We have just touched the point of NADI, 2 or 3 times> > > but without any> > > followup. In response of msg >>>> Mahaguru KSK said> > > the NADi> > > astrology is 100% correct and its handlers are 99%> > > wrong.<<<<<, I> > > commented earlier that NADi astrology is 100% wrong> > > and its handlers> > > are 99% right as they are able to earn their> > > livelihood.> > >> > > I have always asked to the members that whether they> > > have visited the> > > place of NADI. But so far not a single member has> > > come forward with> > > +ve answer.> > >> > > Because you are very important members of the forum,> > > Hence I will> > > like to inform you that on insisting of a friend, I> > > visited the place> > > of NADI and after deeply observing the full> > > procedure from the very> > > beginning to the payment of money (as my friend was> > > fully convinced)> > > and confirmation of delivery of horoscope and> > > recorded version of> > > forecast, I was totally silent and in last when I> > > told the cunning> > > astrologer about his trick, which he followed then> > > it was his turn of> > > silence and he immediately return money to my> > > friend, who was also> > > surprised to find the trick. Perhaps I may be the> > > one among few (?)> > > who may have taken back the money by disclosing> > > their trick.> > >> > > Now if some member or you may have visited the site> > > then I will go> > > ahead and not on the basis of some story of MP /> > > MLA.> > >> > > Hope you will continue to share your views.> > >> > > Thanks.> > > Yours truly,> > > Sanat> > >> > > PS> > > Members can see as to how astrologers are busy in> > > forcasting, for> > > promoting their business and when they are asked> > > about the> > > fundamental principles of astrology then they> > > observe silence and> > > other astrologers shield them under the cover of> > > lerner astrologer.> > > If members are interested in loosing their hard> > > earned money for> > > false dreams despite knowing the bogus foundation of> > > predicitive> > > astrology then who can save them?> > >> > >> > > , " dipika> > > blr " > > > <blr.aspirant@> wrote:> > > >> > > > " But did you see at any point of time anything> > > regarding future was> > > > spelt?There are many ways to find the past and few> > > routes to tell> > > you the> > > > future. " > > > >> > > > A Sage who saw 1000s of years future, generally> > > predicts upto your> > > present> > > > age---and very vaguely about your future(While> > > continuing to> > > predict the> > > > pasts of any future such clients) ---food for> > > thought!> > > >> > > > regards> > > >> > > > More than those who hate you, more than all your> > > enemies, an> > > undisciplined *> > > > mind* does greater harm. ~ *Buddha*> > > >> > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:23 AM, TKP Ghopal> > > <astrogopalji@>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > > Mahaguru KSK said the NADi astrology is 100%> > > correct and its> > > handlers> > > > > are 99% wrong.> > > > > Your refernce of an MP is a testimony no> > > doubt.But did you see at> > > any point> > > > > of time anything regarding future was> > > spelt?There are many ways> > > to find the> > > > > past and few routes to tell you the future.> > > > > Regards> > > > > tkp> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On 10/20/08, maheswara_varma> > > <maheswara_varma@> wrote:> > > > >>> > > > >> *An excerpt from an interview with> > > Abdullakutty (Kerala MP)> > > on Nadi> > > > >> Astrology *> > > > >>> > > > >> *Making things worse, you wrote an article> > > in a travel> > > magazine,> > > > >> describing your trip to a Nadi astrologer> > > � where a pandit> > > reads one's> > > > >> destiny through the thumb -- in Tamil Nadu.*> > > > >> **> > > > >> **> > > > >> The article was distorted out of proportions by> > > the media, which> > > was> > > > >> totally unneeded. I made the visit out of> > > curiosity and> > > travelled to> > > > >> Thanjavur. Then I shared my experiences with> > > readers. It was> > > meant as just a> > > > >> travelogue. No one should read more into it.> > > > >>> > > > >> *The article was amazingly written. That apart,> > > it is uncommon> > > for a> > > > >> Communist MP -- that too a Muslim -- to visit> > > a Nadi> > > astrologer.*> > > > >> **> > > > >> I have said why I went. Thanjavur always> > > attracts two kinds of> > > people --> > > > >> one to know the future, the other tourists.> > > India's culture is> > > different. So> > > > >> is our ethos. There is myth, fact and fiction.> > > I can't run away> > > from the> > > > >> age-old customs and beliefs. There is no harm> > > in visiting such> > > places. But I> > > > >> repeat -- it was pure curiosity that took me> > > there.> > > > >>> > > > >> **> > > > >> *But you wanted to know your date of birth. (He> > > did not know his> > > exact> > > > >> date). Were you convinced after the visit? *> > > > >> **> > > > >> Yes, it was an enlightening experience. It was> > > a search for> > > destiny.> > > > >> Whatever they said was almost true. Out of> > > nowhere, an> > > astrologer came with> > > > >> a scripture -- written in ancient Tamil -- and> > > read out all> > > details about> > > > >> my date of birth, including my star. I was> > > stunned. The real> > > shocker came> > > > >> next. The pandit asked me if I was an MLA or> > > MP. Such shockers> > > kept coming.> > > > >> Then came another stunner, " You are not a Hindu> > > and you are an> > > atheist.> > > > >> Neither do you believe in Nadi astrology. " I> > > could not believe> > > myself. Then> > > > >> he started narrating tales from the past,> > > present and future.> > > > >>> > > > >> It is said that details of all human beings> > > were written by> > > sages such as> > > > >> Vashishta, Agastya, Bhrigu and recorded at the> > > Vaitheeswaran> > > Kovil. 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[ Flag Message -> Mark as> > Unread ]> > Date:Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:12:39 +0000 (GMT)> > " vbdeshmukh " deshmukhv@ View Contact Details> > Subject:Re: Groups: Welcome to .> Visit today!> > " Moderator " <-> owner > CC:deshmukhv@> > Dear Sir,> > Thank You for accepting me as a member of your august> > group.> > I had my first brush with Naadi/ Samhita Astrology> > more than twenty years ago ! My meeting with> > Naadi/Samhita astrologer Shri Rajnikbhai ( also known> > as Chhayashastri ) at his office cum residence at> > Lamington Rd. was not at all on my cards when I> > happened to be in Bombay\Mumbai for a technical> > seminar. However, when I learnt that the said seminar> > was postponed due to unavoidable circumstances I took> > the opportunity to look him up him and what followed> > was a mind boggling experience !!It shattered my ego> > that I could take charge of my life and do exactly> > what I wished to do in my life.The first thing that I> > realised was that that I had no say whatsoever about> > my identity like my name,my parent's name,the no. of> > my brothers and sisters who were alive at that> > time.However, the climaxing point was when the name of> > my wife was disclosed by Rajnikbhai,the Naadi reader.> > I had married a lady after my own heart and it created> > a stir and opposition from my ortohdox family because> > she belonged to a different caste ! I thought I did a> > great thing by doing what I considered was my> > prerogative to exercise my option of free will to> > decide what was best im my own interest little knowing> > that I was destined to marry the same lady regardless> > ! It dawned on me that Iwas actually following a> > script/programme already written for me complete with> > dramatis personae like the names of persons and their> > relationship clearly defined in the drama called LIFE!> > (Did'nt Shakespere say that the world is a stage and> > that we are all actors or some thing like that ? )Did> > I really Have a choice or do I have any choice in> > life? I was convinced that I like all others was> > already programmed when I was born. My unique genetic> > make up / genetic predesposition ensured at all times> > that my physical, mental and emotional responses were> > as outlined by the programme at the byte> > level/micro/sookshma level at any given time or> > situation. I realised that all of us follow our> > programme in our own unique way whether we like it or> > not.It is the Supreme Will of the Creator that even in> > the most intimate relationship the progrmmes of any> > two individuals would never-ever match upto 100% !Thre> > is simply no duplication in the programme as you do> > not find duplication in nature or the creation.After> > meeting the Naadi-astrologer,my outlook on life was> > totally changed.I began to accept myself as Iam and> > accept others too as they are-good, bad or ugly. They> > are there because of their programme about which they> > have no choice as much as I do not have.We are bound> > by this programme which is nothing but our destiny or> > Fate over which we simply have no control!I ceased to> > hate or despise anybody including those who can be> > called enemies who are absent in my life because of my> > altered perception. At age 74, Iam quite contended and> > with peace with myself.> > After my first meeting with Naadi-astrologer, I became> > crazy with Naadi/ Samhitas and experienced no. of> > them all over India with friends and relatives.with> > various results which ranged from Divine to plain> > rubbish !! No regrets.> > However, as a student of Astrology for over 18 years,> > I can venture to say that Naadi Shastra is not> > astrology which is based on Astronomy but a system of> > divination based on its own parameters which are> > simply beyond human definations. I am therefore not at> > all in favour of clubbing Naadi with astrology which I> > consider a misnomer.> > I have some more things to share with our Group but> > for now I would like to sign off.> > Thanking you once again and with very warm regards,> > VB Deshmukh/ Thane/ Maharashtra.> >> >> >> >> > Moderator> > -owner wrote:> >> > >> > > Hello,> > >> > > Welcome to the group at > > > Groups, a> > > group dedicated for discussion of Naadi Astrology> > > and for sharing and Interacting with Naadi> > > Enthusiasts of their experinces with Naadi> > > predictions.> > >> > > To learn more about the group, please> > > visit> > > . If you> > > are new to Naadi Predictions please read the> > > document titled " Nadi Astrology - An> > > Introduction.doc " from the Files section.> > >> > > DO NOT REGISTER TO PROMOTE YOUR SITES OR SALES OR> > > POST ANY IN THIS FORUM. YOU ARE> > > WASTING TIME!!!> > >> > > YOUR REGISTRATION AND YOUR S WILL BE> > > DELETED WITHIN MINUTES OF POSTING. POSTING ADS IN> > > THIS FORUM IS JUST A WASTE OF YOUR TIME !!!> > >> > >> > > To start sending messages to members of this group,> > > simply> > > send email to > >> > > If you do not wish to belong to , you> > > may> > > by sending an email to> > > - > >> > > To see and modify all of your groups, go to> > > /mygroups> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > Moderator, Naadi Astrology> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Hare Ram Dear Shri Shashie Bhai. Ram Ram Bhaiyya. You know we are not dirty people basically and show these traits only when provoked. Everyone has some tolerance levels before they break. I have a low level, so easily get my tempers rising when provocated, but it also cools down fast, and then I realise that one must not be so much abusive or hurtful in language, because then you tend to become like the other person. I am still in learning stage so always apologise whenever I feel I have harmed a person or hurt him out of turn which is unjustified. Thank You for your good wishes, regards, Bhaskar. , " Shashi Shekher \ " Shaaswat\ " " <polite_astro wrote: > > > ll HARE RAM ll > My dear Bhaskar bhai, > Ram Ram! > Some times we make some mistakes in our life knowingly or unknowingly in our life but to do realize about the same timely & to show apology for such mistakes is much more important and of course big heart is needed to say sorry that you really have.I appreciate you heartly for your great act.God bless you. > > Yours > Shashi Shekher " Shaaswat " > > Shashi S.Sharma > > [Vedic Astrologer & Gems Advisor] Cell-09818310075 > [Member-Planetary Gemologists Association,Bangkok,Thailand] > www.freewebs.com/astroremedies > [Private consultation is chargeable.Please contact me in polite.astro ] > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/25/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Re: Nadi astrology > > Saturday, October 25, 2008, 11:43 PM > Dear Sanatkumarji , > > I am extremely sorry for my harsh words to you. I deeply apologise for > the same. I was not aware that you are aged 74, and my culture does not > teach me to insult elderly people. I was under the impression that you > are just like those other members on the forum we see, who are busy > trying to earn name and fame at the cost of attacking others. > > About astrology and astrologers, let me say that I too have been through > a bad experience with astrologers in my earlier days, which is why i > entered this field to understand whether it is real or bogus. And by > Gods grace I have been successfull 75 out of 100 times in predictions if > not more. These credentials can be checked with the feedbacks of various > members all over the jyotish forums, and one can verify whether they are > real people or not. And few foreginers would also vouch for the accuracy > who have challenged me. I have not a single fake id credited to me, who > has given me a good feedback. I am utmost honest here. I do not like the > games most astrologers are playing today, and remain indifferent to > these people and their tactics and do not approve them. > > As a repentance for talking harshly with an elderly man, I will now stop > writing here , from now on. > > kind regards, > > Bhaskar. > > , " sanat2221 " > <sanatkumar_ jain@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Resp. Deshmukh Ji, > > Namaskar, > > Thanks for your msg and experience on Nadi astrology. > > > > After going through the attached file narrating your experience; I > > have just picked 3 following points in reverse order (from your msg) > > for further discussion. > > > > 1. (present status) At age 74, Iam quite contended and with > > peace with myself. > > 2. (Philosophical part)………I realised that all of us follow our > > programme in our own unique way whether we like it or not……… I > was > > destined to marry the same lady regardless! It dawned on me that Iwas > > actually following a > > script/programme already written for me complete with > > dramatis personae like the names of persons and their > > relationship clearly defined in the drama called LIFE!....... ...... > > 3. (Actual incident) ………. I had no say whatsoever about > > my identity like my name,my parent's name,the no. of > > my brothers and sisters who were alive at that > > time.However, the climaxing point was when the name of > > my wife was disclosed by Rajnikbhai,the Naadi reader……….. > > > > We will continue our interaction in above framework (you can add any > > point if you wish). > > > > So first of all I will like to say that at this stage of life, when > > you have achieved containment (in my opinion it is the best position > > when you are fully satisfied with your present position and it is > > golden period of life.). It is immaterial how you achieved this > > position. It may be after some physical achievement, if may be after > > earning money, it may be after settling your children, it may be any > > one's philosophical thought (irrespective of religion, because one > > may be of any religion)……….. and so on. So long one is not > satisfied > > with his present, he will continue to struggle, try to find out some > > short cut (in the form of knowing future, some remedy to alter future > > and so on, which is the fertile land for astrologers) . You have > > achieved this containment from Nadi shastra. So are you ready to > > analyze your path, without disturbing your present containment. > > Because our mind set is always different then actual truth. We are > > more attached with our mind set and do not like to change it in any > > case. > > > > For example. If I am afraid of snakes then it is my mind set and I > > will never change it despite I know that only 4 type of snakes are > > poisonous even then I will not allow any other snake in my house. > > Why, because mindset and knowledge (truth) are always pole apart. In > > the forum we are discussing truth and not on the mindset of group of > > astrologers or believer. Hence it is academic and not personal. Thus > > it is for every member to decide himself as to how much he can modify > > his mind set towards truth. > > > > So will you like that I may analyze second point (philosophy) which > > may be against your present mindset. Hence perhaps you may not be > > able to accept it until unless you have open mind and ready to accept > > opposite views. > > > > So long 3rd point is concerned I will like to request you to narrate > > in detail, after you entered in the house (Nadi) and till he finishes > > his circus. Because secret of Nadi is only here (on the basis of > > disclosing this secret to Nadi astrologer, he has immediately > > refunded the amount to my friend) and it is neither in 2nd part nor > > in 1st part nor it has any relation with 2nd or 1st point. 2nd part > > is product of incident and your till that date experience, whereas > > 1st part is directly product of 2nd part. > > > > After hearing from you (about 1st and 3rd point) I will continue on > > 2nd and 3rd point. I am changing the heading of the msg for proper > > linking. > > > > Thanks for sharing your views. Take care of health. > > > > Yours truly, > > > > Sanat > > > > PS: You have also intimated in your msg of 3-10-8 that you will like > > to share your views on " destiny …….. " based on my blog " Astrology > a > > science or myth " . I am waiting for that too. > > > > > > > > > > , vbdeshmukh deshmukhv@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sanat ji, > > > I am attaching a file in which I have given the > > > details of my first visit to Naadi/Samhita Reader more > > > than twenty years ago.Actually, this post was > > > addressed to the Moderator of Naadiastrology Group at > > > the time of joining the group. I hope this would be of > > > some interest to the members in this group. > > > Regds., > > > VB Deshmukh > > > --- sanat2221 sanatkumar_jain@ wrote: > > > > > > > Resp Ms Dipika ji and Ghopal ji, > > > > Namaskar, > > > > We have just touched the point of NADI, 2 or 3 times > > > > but without any > > > > followup. In response of msg >>>> Mahaguru KSK said > > > > the NADi > > > > astrology is 100% correct and its handlers are 99% > > > > wrong.<<<<<, I > > > > commented earlier that NADi astrology is 100% wrong > > > > and its handlers > > > > are 99% right as they are able to earn their > > > > livelihood. > > > > > > > > I have always asked to the members that whether they > > > > have visited the > > > > place of NADI. But so far not a single member has > > > > come forward with > > > > +ve answer. > > > > > > > > Because you are very important members of the forum, > > > > Hence I will > > > > like to inform you that on insisting of a friend, I > > > > visited the place > > > > of NADI and after deeply observing the full > > > > procedure from the very > > > > beginning to the payment of money (as my friend was > > > > fully convinced) > > > > and confirmation of delivery of horoscope and > > > > recorded version of > > > > forecast, I was totally silent and in last when I > > > > told the cunning > > > > astrologer about his trick, which he followed then > > > > it was his turn of > > > > silence and he immediately return money to my > > > > friend, who was also > > > > surprised to find the trick. Perhaps I may be the > > > > one among few (?) > > > > who may have taken back the money by disclosing > > > > their trick. > > > > > > > > Now if some member or you may have visited the site > > > > then I will go > > > > ahead and not on the basis of some story of MP / > > > > MLA. > > > > > > > > Hope you will continue to share your views. > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > Yours truly, > > > > Sanat > > > > > > > > PS > > > > Members can see as to how astrologers are busy in > > > > forcasting, for > > > > promoting their business and when they are asked > > > > about the > > > > fundamental principles of astrology then they > > > > observe silence and > > > > other astrologers shield them under the cover of > > > > lerner astrologer. > > > > If members are interested in loosing their hard > > > > earned money for > > > > false dreams despite knowing the bogus foundation of > > > > predicitive > > > > astrology then who can save them? > > > > > > > > > > > > , " dipika > > > > blr " > > > > <blr.aspirant@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > " But did you see at any point of time anything > > > > regarding future was > > > > > spelt?There are many ways to find the past and few > > > > routes to tell > > > > you the > > > > > future. " > > > > > > > > > > A Sage who saw 1000s of years future, generally > > > > predicts upto your > > > > present > > > > > age---and very vaguely about your future(While > > > > continuing to > > > > predict the > > > > > pasts of any future such clients) ---food for > > > > thought! > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > More than those who hate you, more than all your > > > > enemies, an > > > > undisciplined * > > > > > mind* does greater harm. ~ *Buddha* > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:23 AM, TKP Ghopal > > > > <astrogopalji@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Mahaguru KSK said the NADi astrology is 100% > > > > correct and its > > > > handlers > > > > > > are 99% wrong. > > > > > > Your refernce of an MP is a testimony no > > > > doubt.But did you see at > > > > any point > > > > > > of time anything regarding future was > > > > spelt?There are many ways > > > > to find the > > > > > > past and few routes to tell you the future. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > tkp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/20/08, maheswara_varma > > > > <maheswara_varma@ > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> *An excerpt from an interview with > > > > Abdullakutty (Kerala MP) > > > > on Nadi > > > > > >> Astrology * > > > > > >> > > > > > >> *Making things worse, you wrote an article > > > > in a travel > > > > magazine, > > > > > >> describing your trip to a Nadi astrologer > > > > � where a pandit > > > > reads one's > > > > > >> destiny through the thumb -- in Tamil Nadu.* > > > > > >> ** > > > > > >> ** > > > > > >> The article was distorted out of proportions by > > > > the media, which > > > > was > > > > > >> totally unneeded. I made the visit out of > > > > curiosity and > > > > travelled to > > > > > >> Thanjavur. Then I shared my experiences with > > > > readers. It was > > > > meant as just a > > > > > >> travelogue. No one should read more into it. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> *The article was amazingly written. That apart, > > > > it is uncommon > > > > for a > > > > > >> Communist MP -- that too a Muslim -- to visit > > > > a Nadi > > > > astrologer.* > > > > > >> ** > > > > > >> I have said why I went. Thanjavur always > > > > attracts two kinds of > > > > people -- > > > > > >> one to know the future, the other tourists. > > > > India's culture is > > > > different. So > > > > > >> is our ethos. There is myth, fact and fiction. > > > > I can't run away > > > > from the > > > > > >> age-old customs and beliefs. There is no harm > > > > in visiting such > > > > places. But I > > > > > >> repeat -- it was pure curiosity that took me > > > > there. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ** > > > > > >> *But you wanted to know your date of birth. (He > > > > did not know his > > > > exact > > > > > >> date). Were you convinced after the visit? * > > > > > >> ** > > > > > >> Yes, it was an enlightening experience. It was > > > > a search for > > > > destiny. > > > > > >> Whatever they said was almost true. Out of > > > > nowhere, an > > > > astrologer came with > > > > > >> a scripture -- written in ancient Tamil -- and > > > > read out all > > > > details about > > > > > >> my date of birth, including my star. I was > > > > stunned. The real > > > > shocker came > > > > > >> next. The pandit asked me if I was an MLA or > > > > MP. Such shockers > > > > kept coming. > > > > > >> Then came another stunner, " You are not a Hindu > > > > and you are an > > > > atheist. > > > > > >> Neither do you believe in Nadi astrology. " I > > > > could not believe > > > > myself. Then > > > > > >> he started narrating tales from the past, > > > > present and future. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> It is said that details of all human beings > > > > were written by > > > > sages such as > > > > > >> Vashishta, Agastya, Bhrigu and recorded at the > > > > Vaitheeswaran > > > > Kovil. It was a > > > > > >> revelation. A curious mind left with a > > > > contended heart > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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[ Flag Message - > > Mark as > > > Unread ] > > > Date:Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:12:39 +0000 (GMT) > > > " vbdeshmukh " deshmukhv@ View Contact Details > > > Subject:Re: : Welcome to . > > Visit today! > > > " Moderator " <- > > owner > > > CC:deshmukhv@ > > > Dear Sir, > > > Thank You for accepting me as a member of your august > > > group. > > > I had my first brush with Naadi/ Samhita Astrology > > > more than twenty years ago ! My meeting with > > > Naadi/Samhita astrologer Shri Rajnikbhai ( also known > > > as Chhayashastri ) at his office cum residence at > > > Lamington Rd. was not at all on my cards when I > > > happened to be in Bombay\Mumbai for a technical > > > seminar. However, when I learnt that the said seminar > > > was postponed due to unavoidable circumstances I took > > > the opportunity to look him up him and what followed > > > was a mind boggling experience !!It shattered my ego > > > that I could take charge of my life and do exactly > > > what I wished to do in my life.The first thing that I > > > realised was that that I had no say whatsoever about > > > my identity like my name,my parent's name,the no. of > > > my brothers and sisters who were alive at that > > > time.However, the climaxing point was when the name of > > > my wife was disclosed by Rajnikbhai,the Naadi reader. > > > I had married a lady after my own heart and it created > > > a stir and opposition from my ortohdox family because > > > she belonged to a different caste ! I thought I did a > > > great thing by doing what I considered was my > > > prerogative to exercise my option of free will to > > > decide what was best im my own interest little knowing > > > that I was destined to marry the same lady regardless > > > ! It dawned on me that Iwas actually following a > > > script/programme already written for me complete with > > > dramatis personae like the names of persons and their > > > relationship clearly defined in the drama called LIFE! > > > (Did'nt Shakespere say that the world is a stage and > > > that we are all actors or some thing like that ? )Did > > > I really Have a choice or do I have any choice in > > > life? I was convinced that I like all others was > > > already programmed when I was born. My unique genetic > > > make up / genetic predesposition ensured at all times > > > that my physical, mental and emotional responses were > > > as outlined by the programme at the byte > > > level/micro/ sookshma level at any given time or > > > situation. I realised that all of us follow our > > > programme in our own unique way whether we like it or > > > not.It is the Supreme Will of the Creator that even in > > > the most intimate relationship the progrmmes of any > > > two individuals would never-ever match upto 100% !Thre > > > is simply no duplication in the programme as you do > > > not find duplication in nature or the creation.After > > > meeting the Naadi-astrologer, my outlook on life was > > > totally changed.I began to accept myself as Iam and > > > accept others too as they are-good, bad or ugly. They > > > are there because of their programme about which they > > > have no choice as much as I do not have.We are bound > > > by this programme which is nothing but our destiny or > > > Fate over which we simply have no control!I ceased to > > > hate or despise anybody including those who can be > > > called enemies who are absent in my life because of my > > > altered perception. At age 74, Iam quite contended and > > > with peace with myself. > > > After my first meeting with Naadi-astrologer, I became > > > crazy with Naadi/ Samhitas and experienced no. of > > > them all over India with friends and relatives.with > > > various results which ranged from Divine to plain > > > rubbish !! No regrets. > > > However, as a student of Astrology for over 18 years, > > > I can venture to say that Naadi Shastra is not > > > astrology which is based on Astronomy but a system of > > > divination based on its own parameters which are > > > simply beyond human definations. I am therefore not at > > > all in favour of clubbing Naadi with astrology which I > > > consider a misnomer. > > > I have some more things to share with our Group but > > > for now I would like to sign off. > > > Thanking you once again and with very warm regards, > > > VB Deshmukh/ Thane/ Maharashtra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moderator > > > - owner@ s.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Welcome to the group at > > > > Groups, a > > > > group dedicated for discussion of Naadi Astrology > > > > and for sharing and Interacting with Naadi > > > > Enthusiasts of their experinces with Naadi > > > > predictions. > > > > > > > > To learn more about the group, please > > > > visit > > > > http://groups. / group/naadiastro logy. If you > > > > are new to Naadi Predictions please read the > > > > document titled " Nadi Astrology - An > > > > Introduction. doc " from the Files section. > > > > > > > > DO NOT REGISTER TO PROMOTE YOUR SITES OR SALES OR > > > > POST ANY IN THIS FORUM. YOU ARE > > > > WASTING TIME!!! > > > > > > > > YOUR REGISTRATION AND YOUR S WILL BE > > > > DELETED WITHIN MINUTES OF POSTING. POSTING ADS IN > > > > THIS FORUM IS JUST A WASTE OF YOUR TIME !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > To start sending messages to members of this group, > > > > simply > > > > send email to > > > > > > > > If you do not wish to belong to , you > > > > may > > > > by sending an email to > > > > - > > > > > > > > To see and modify all of your groups, go to > > > > http://groups. / mygroups > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Moderator, Naadi Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 " So long 3rd point is concerned I will like to request you to narrate in detail, after you entered in the house (Nadi) and till he finishes his circus. Because secret of Nadi is only here (on the basis of disclosing this secret to Nadi astrologer, he has immediately refunded the amount to my friend) and it is neither in 2nd part nor in 1st part nor it has any relation with 2nd or 1st point. 2nd part is product of incident and your till that date experience, whereas 1st part is directly product of 2nd part. " Waiting for the story to unfold. Kidnly mark a copy to to get the expert views on your obervations. regardsDipikaFacts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.Aldous Huxley On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:09 PM, sanat2221 <sanatkumar_jain wrote: Resp. Deshmukh Ji, Namaskar, Thanks for your msg and experience on Nadi astrology. After going through the attached file narrating your experience; I have just picked 3 following points in reverse order (from your msg) for further discussion. 1. (present status) At age 74, Iam quite contended and with peace with myself. 2. (Philosophical part)………I realised that all of us follow our programme in our own unique way whether we like it or not……… I was destined to marry the same lady regardless! It dawned on me that Iwas actually following a script/programme already written for me complete with dramatis personae like the names of persons and their relationship clearly defined in the drama called LIFE!............. 3. (Actual incident) ………. I had no say whatsoever about my identity like my name,my parent's name,the no. of my brothers and sisters who were alive at that time.However, the climaxing point was when the name of my wife was disclosed by Rajnikbhai,the Naadi reader……….. We will continue our interaction in above framework (you can add any point if you wish). So first of all I will like to say that at this stage of life, when you have achieved containment (in my opinion it is the best position when you are fully satisfied with your present position and it is golden period of life.). It is immaterial how you achieved this position. It may be after some physical achievement, if may be after earning money, it may be after settling your children, it may be any one's philosophical thought (irrespective of religion, because one may be of any religion)……….. and so on. So long one is not satisfied with his present, he will continue to struggle, try to find out some short cut (in the form of knowing future, some remedy to alter future and so on, which is the fertile land for astrologers). You have achieved this containment from Nadi shastra. So are you ready to analyze your path, without disturbing your present containment. Because our mind set is always different then actual truth. We are more attached with our mind set and do not like to change it in any case. For example. If I am afraid of snakes then it is my mind set and I will never change it despite I know that only 4 type of snakes are poisonous even then I will not allow any other snake in my house. Why, because mindset and knowledge (truth) are always pole apart. In the forum we are discussing truth and not on the mindset of group of astrologers or believer. Hence it is academic and not personal. Thus it is for every member to decide himself as to how much he can modify his mind set towards truth. So will you like that I may analyze second point (philosophy) which may be against your present mindset. Hence perhaps you may not be able to accept it until unless you have open mind and ready to accept opposite views. So long 3rd point is concerned I will like to request you to narrate in detail, after you entered in the house (Nadi) and till he finishes his circus. Because secret of Nadi is only here (on the basis of disclosing this secret to Nadi astrologer, he has immediately refunded the amount to my friend) and it is neither in 2nd part nor in 1st part nor it has any relation with 2nd or 1st point. 2nd part is product of incident and your till that date experience, whereas 1st part is directly product of 2nd part. After hearing from you (about 1st and 3rd point) I will continue on 2nd and 3rd point. I am changing the heading of the msg for proper linking. Thanks for sharing your views. Take care of health. Yours truly, Sanat PS: You have also intimated in your msg of 3-10-8 that you will like to share your views on " destiny …….. " based on my blog " Astrology a science or myth " . I am waiting for that too. , vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv wrote: > > Dear Sanat ji, > I am attaching a file in which I have given the > details of my first visit to Naadi/Samhita Reader more > than twenty years ago.Actually, this post was > addressed to the Moderator of Naadiastrology Group at > the time of joining the group. I hope this would be of > some interest to the members in this group. > Regds., > VB Deshmukh > --- sanat2221 <sanatkumar_jain wrote: > > > Resp Ms Dipika ji and Ghopal ji, > > Namaskar, > > We have just touched the point of NADI, 2 or 3 times > > but without any > > followup. In response of msg >>>> Mahaguru KSK said > > the NADi > > astrology is 100% correct and its handlers are 99% > > wrong.<<<<<, I > > commented earlier that NADi astrology is 100% wrong > > and its handlers > > are 99% right as they are able to earn their > > livelihood. > > > > I have always asked to the members that whether they > > have visited the > > place of NADI. But so far not a single member has > > come forward with > > +ve answer. > > > > Because you are very important members of the forum, > > Hence I will > > like to inform you that on insisting of a friend, I > > visited the place > > of NADI and after deeply observing the full > > procedure from the very > > beginning to the payment of money (as my friend was > > fully convinced) > > and confirmation of delivery of horoscope and > > recorded version of > > forecast, I was totally silent and in last when I > > told the cunning > > astrologer about his trick, which he followed then > > it was his turn of > > silence and he immediately return money to my > > friend, who was also > > surprised to find the trick. Perhaps I may be the > > one among few (?) > > who may have taken back the money by disclosing > > their trick. > > > > Now if some member or you may have visited the site > > then I will go > > ahead and not on the basis of some story of MP / > > MLA. > > > > Hope you will continue to share your views. > > > > Thanks. > > Yours truly, > > Sanat > > > > PS > > Members can see as to how astrologers are busy in > > forcasting, for > > promoting their business and when they are asked > > about the > > fundamental principles of astrology then they > > observe silence and > > other astrologers shield them under the cover of > > lerner astrologer. > > If members are interested in loosing their hard > > earned money for > > false dreams despite knowing the bogus foundation of > > predicitive > > astrology then who can save them? > > > > > > , " dipika > > blr " > > <blr.aspirant@> wrote: > > > > > > " But did you see at any point of time anything > > regarding future was > > > spelt?There are many ways to find the past and few > > routes to tell > > you the > > > future. " > > > > > > A Sage who saw 1000s of years future, generally > > predicts upto your > > present > > > age---and very vaguely about your future(While > > continuing to > > predict the > > > pasts of any future such clients) ---food for > > thought! > > > > > > regards > > > > > > More than those who hate you, more than all your > > enemies, an > > undisciplined * > > > mind* does greater harm. ~ *Buddha* > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:23 AM, TKP Ghopal > > <astrogopalji@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Mahaguru KSK said the NADi astrology is 100% > > correct and its > > handlers > > > > are 99% wrong. > > > > Your refernce of an MP is a testimony no > > doubt.But did you see at > > any point > > > > of time anything regarding future was > > spelt?There are many ways > > to find the > > > > past and few routes to tell you the future. > > > > Regards > > > > tkp > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/20/08, maheswara_varma > > <maheswara_varma@> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> *An excerpt from an interview with > > Abdullakutty (Kerala MP) > > on Nadi > > > >> Astrology * > > > >> > > > >> *Making things worse, you wrote an article > > in a travel > > magazine, > > > >> describing your trip to a Nadi astrologer > > � where a pandit > > reads one's > > > >> destiny through the thumb -- in Tamil Nadu.* > > > >> ** > > > >> ** > > > >> The article was distorted out of proportions by > > the media, which > > was > > > >> totally unneeded. I made the visit out of > > curiosity and > > travelled to > > > >> Thanjavur. Then I shared my experiences with > > readers. It was > > meant as just a > > > >> travelogue. No one should read more into it. > > > >> > > > >> *The article was amazingly written. That apart, > > it is uncommon > > for a > > > >> Communist MP -- that too a Muslim -- to visit > > a Nadi > > astrologer.* > > > >> ** > > > >> I have said why I went. Thanjavur always > > attracts two kinds of > > people -- > > > >> one to know the future, the other tourists. > > India's culture is > > different. So > > > >> is our ethos. There is myth, fact and fiction. > > I can't run away > > from the > > > >> age-old customs and beliefs. There is no harm > > in visiting such > > places. But I > > > >> repeat -- it was pure curiosity that took me > > there. > > > >> > > > >> ** > > > >> *But you wanted to know your date of birth. (He > > did not know his > > exact > > > >> date). Were you convinced after the visit? * > > > >> ** > > > >> Yes, it was an enlightening experience. It was > > a search for > > destiny. > > > >> Whatever they said was almost true. Out of > > nowhere, an > > astrologer came with > > > >> a scripture -- written in ancient Tamil -- and > > read out all > > details about > > > >> my date of birth, including my star. I was > > stunned. The real > > shocker came > > > >> next. The pandit asked me if I was an MLA or > > MP. Such shockers > > kept coming. > > > >> Then came another stunner, " You are not a Hindu > > and you are an > > atheist. > > > >> Neither do you believe in Nadi astrology. " I > > could not believe > > myself. Then > > > >> he started narrating tales from the past, > > present and future. > > > >> > > > >> It is said that details of all human beings > > were written by > > sages such as > > > >> Vashishta, Agastya, Bhrigu and recorded at the > > Vaitheeswaran > > Kovil. It was a > > > >> revelation. A curious mind left with a > > contended heart > > > === message truncated === > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Mail - deshmukhv > My MailGroupsMail Help SearchSearch:Welcome, deshmukhv > [sign Out, My Account]Mail Home > Mail| Contacts| Calendar| Notepad Options Check MailCompose Search > Mail: Search MailSearch the Web > > > Folders[Add - Edit] > Inbox (4681) Draft Sent Bulk (34)[Empty] Trash[Empty] My Folders[Hide] > 123 > Search Shortcuts > My Photos My Attachments > Cricket > scores & more > Previous | Next | Back to Messages > DeleteReplyForwardMove... > Printable View This message is not flagged. [ Flag Message - Mark as > Unread ] > Date:Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:12:39 +0000 (GMT) > " vbdeshmukh " <deshmukhv View Contact Details > Subject:Re: : Welcome to . Visit today! > " Moderator " <- owner > > CC:deshmukhv > Dear Sir, > Thank You for accepting me as a member of your august > group. > I had my first brush with Naadi/ Samhita Astrology > more than twenty years ago ! My meeting with > Naadi/Samhita astrologer Shri Rajnikbhai ( also known > as Chhayashastri ) at his office cum residence at > Lamington Rd. was not at all on my cards when I > happened to be in Bombay\Mumbai for a technical > seminar. However, when I learnt that the said seminar > was postponed due to unavoidable circumstances I took > the opportunity to look him up him and what followed > was a mind boggling experience !!It shattered my ego > that I could take charge of my life and do exactly > what I wished to do in my life.The first thing that I > realised was that that I had no say whatsoever about > my identity like my name,my parent's name,the no. of > my brothers and sisters who were alive at that > time.However, the climaxing point was when the name of > my wife was disclosed by Rajnikbhai,the Naadi reader. > I had married a lady after my own heart and it created > a stir and opposition from my ortohdox family because > she belonged to a different caste ! I thought I did a > great thing by doing what I considered was my > prerogative to exercise my option of free will to > decide what was best im my own interest little knowing > that I was destined to marry the same lady regardless > ! It dawned on me that Iwas actually following a > script/programme already written for me complete with > dramatis personae like the names of persons and their > relationship clearly defined in the drama called LIFE! > (Did'nt Shakespere say that the world is a stage and > that we are all actors or some thing like that ? )Did > I really Have a choice or do I have any choice in > life? I was convinced that I like all others was > already programmed when I was born. My unique genetic > make up / genetic predesposition ensured at all times > that my physical, mental and emotional responses were > as outlined by the programme at the byte > level/micro/sookshma level at any given time or > situation. I realised that all of us follow our > programme in our own unique way whether we like it or > not.It is the Supreme Will of the Creator that even in > the most intimate relationship the progrmmes of any > two individuals would never-ever match upto 100% !Thre > is simply no duplication in the programme as you do > not find duplication in nature or the creation.After > meeting the Naadi-astrologer,my outlook on life was > totally changed.I began to accept myself as Iam and > accept others too as they are-good, bad or ugly. They > are there because of their programme about which they > have no choice as much as I do not have.We are bound > by this programme which is nothing but our destiny or > Fate over which we simply have no control!I ceased to > hate or despise anybody including those who can be > called enemies who are absent in my life because of my > altered perception. At age 74, Iam quite contended and > with peace with myself. > After my first meeting with Naadi-astrologer, I became > crazy with Naadi/ Samhitas and experienced no. of > them all over India with friends and relatives.with > various results which ranged from Divine to plain > rubbish !! No regrets. > However, as a student of Astrology for over 18 years, > I can venture to say that Naadi Shastra is not > astrology which is based on Astronomy but a system of > divination based on its own parameters which are > simply beyond human definations. I am therefore not at > all in favour of clubbing Naadi with astrology which I > consider a misnomer. > I have some more things to share with our Group but > for now I would like to sign off. > Thanking you once again and with very warm regards, > VB Deshmukh/ Thane/ Maharashtra. > > > > > Moderator > <-owner > wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > Welcome to the group at > > Groups, a > > group dedicated for discussion of Naadi Astrology > > and for sharing and Interacting with Naadi > > Enthusiasts of their experinces with Naadi > > predictions. > > > > To learn more about the group, please > > visit > > . If you > > are new to Naadi Predictions please read the > > document titled " Nadi Astrology - An > > Introduction.doc " from the Files section. > > > > DO NOT REGISTER TO PROMOTE YOUR SITES OR SALES OR > > POST ANY IN THIS FORUM. YOU ARE > > WASTING TIME!!! > > > > YOUR REGISTRATION AND YOUR S WILL BE > > DELETED WITHIN MINUTES OF POSTING. POSTING ADS IN > > THIS FORUM IS JUST A WASTE OF YOUR TIME !!! > > > > > > To start sending messages to members of this group, > > simply > > send email to > > > > If you do not wish to belong to , you > > may > > by sending an email to > > - > > > > To see and modify all of your groups, go to > > /mygroups > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Moderator, Naadi Astrology > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 dear sanat ji Thanks for ur opinions ,if i am allowed to interfere in ur discussion . Can u make this clear ? "For example. If I am afraid of snakes then it is my mind set and I will never change it despite I know that only 4 type of snakes are poisonous even then I will not allow any other snake in my house. " what is this ??? is nadi astrology is related to snakes ??? or what nadi astrology has to do with snakes ?? What i cud decifer frm previous messges in this grp and its replys frm ur side here others r not allowed to quote any thing /examples out of matter of discussion .So do u blv diffrnt parametr applicable to u ???Still u say u r after non existant ,convenient claims in the name of science to conceal reality and truth ,but the fact is science never denies facts . where is ur exprnce u r talking abt regrding nadi and its full details along with readers name and address ( or is it unscientific ??? to reveal it ) -i searched in files in vain too .How many astrologers u visted ??what was the size of samples u selected ,the method u adopted in sampling ,proof of ur claims etc etc is also expected . Also tell us ur knowldge abt Nadi and its back ground history and how many books u read in connection with ur search for knowing the truth etc also expected frm u . regrds ASH But he that filches from me my good name, Robs me of that which not enriches him, And makes me poor indeed. --Shak. , "sanat2221" <sanatkumar_jain wrote:>> > > > Resp. Deshmukh Ji,> Namaskar,> Thanks for your msg and experience on Nadi astrology. > > After going through the attached file narrating your experience; I > have just picked 3 following points in reverse order (from your msg) > for further discussion.> > 1. (present status) At age 74, Iam quite contended and with > peace with myself.> 2. (Philosophical part)………I realised that all of us follow our > programme in our own unique way whether we like it or not……… I was > destined to marry the same lady regardless! It dawned on me that Iwas > actually following a> script/programme already written for me complete with> dramatis personae like the names of persons and their> relationship clearly defined in the drama called LIFE!.............> 3. (Actual incident) ………. I had no say whatsoever about> my identity like my name,my parent's name,the no. of> my brothers and sisters who were alive at that> time.However, the climaxing point was when the name of> my wife was disclosed by Rajnikbhai,the Naadi reader………..> > We will continue our interaction in above framework (you can add any > point if you wish).> > So first of all I will like to say that at this stage of life, when > you have achieved containment (in my opinion it is the best position > when you are fully satisfied with your present position and it is > golden period of life.). It is immaterial how you achieved this > position. It may be after some physical achievement, if may be after > earning money, it may be after settling your children, it may be any > one's philosophical thought (irrespective of religion, because one > may be of any religion)……….. and so on. So long one is not satisfied > with his present, he will continue to struggle, try to find out some > short cut (in the form of knowing future, some remedy to alter future > and so on, which is the fertile land for astrologers). You have > achieved this containment from Nadi shastra. So are you ready to > analyze your path, without disturbing your present containment. > Because our mind set is always different then actual truth. We are > more attached with our mind set and do not like to change it in any > case.> > For example. If I am afraid of snakes then it is my mind set and I > will never change it despite I know that only 4 type of snakes are > poisonous even then I will not allow any other snake in my house. > Why, because mindset and knowledge (truth) are always pole apart. In > the forum we are discussing truth and not on the mindset of group of > astrologers or believer. Hence it is academic and not personal. Thus > it is for every member to decide himself as to how much he can modify > his mind set towards truth. > > So will you like that I may analyze second point (philosophy) which > may be against your present mindset. Hence perhaps you may not be > able to accept it until unless you have open mind and ready to accept > opposite views.> > So long 3rd point is concerned I will like to request you to narrate > in detail, after you entered in the house (Nadi) and till he finishes > his circus. Because secret of Nadi is only here (on the basis of > disclosing this secret to Nadi astrologer, he has immediately > refunded the amount to my friend) and it is neither in 2nd part nor > in 1st part nor it has any relation with 2nd or 1st point. 2nd part > is product of incident and your till that date experience, whereas > 1st part is directly product of 2nd part. > > After hearing from you (about 1st and 3rd point) I will continue on > 2nd and 3rd point. I am changing the heading of the msg for proper > linking.> > Thanks for sharing your views. Take care of health.> > Yours truly,> > Sanat> > PS: You have also intimated in your msg of 3-10-8 that you will like > to share your views on "destiny …….." based on my blog "Astrology a > science or myth". I am waiting for that too.> > > > > , vbdeshmukh deshmukhv@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Sanat ji,> > I am attaching a file in which I have given the> > details of my first visit to Naadi/Samhita Reader more> > than twenty years ago.Actually, this post was> > addressed to the Moderator of Naadiastrology Group at> > the time of joining the group. I hope this would be of> > some interest to the members in this group.> > Regds.,> > VB Deshmukh> > --- sanat2221 sanatkumar_jain@ wrote:> > > > > Resp Ms Dipika ji and Ghopal ji,> > > Namaskar,> > > We have just touched the point of NADI, 2 or 3 times> > > but without any > > > followup. In response of msg >>>> Mahaguru KSK said> > > the NADi > > > astrology is 100% correct and its handlers are 99%> > > wrong.<<<<<, I > > > commented earlier that NADi astrology is 100% wrong> > > and its handlers > > > are 99% right as they are able to earn their> > > livelihood. > > > > > > I have always asked to the members that whether they> > > have visited the > > > place of NADI. But so far not a single member has> > > come forward with > > > +ve answer.> > > > > > Because you are very important members of the forum,> > > Hence I will > > > like to inform you that on insisting of a friend, I> > > visited the place > > > of NADI and after deeply observing the full> > > procedure from the very > > > beginning to the payment of money (as my friend was> > > fully convinced) > > > and confirmation of delivery of horoscope and> > > recorded version of > > > forecast, I was totally silent and in last when I> > > told the cunning > > > astrologer about his trick, which he followed then> > > it was his turn of > > > silence and he immediately return money to my> > > friend, who was also > > > surprised to find the trick. Perhaps I may be the> > > one among few (?) > > > who may have taken back the money by disclosing> > > their trick.> > > > > > Now if some member or you may have visited the site> > > then I will go > > > ahead and not on the basis of some story of MP /> > > MLA. > > > > > > Hope you will continue to share your views.> > > > > > Thanks.> > > Yours truly,> > > Sanat> > > > > > PS> > > Members can see as to how astrologers are busy in> > > forcasting, for > > > promoting their business and when they are asked> > > about the > > > fundamental principles of astrology then they> > > observe silence and > > > other astrologers shield them under the cover of> > > lerner astrologer. > > > If members are interested in loosing their hard> > > earned money for > > > false dreams despite knowing the bogus foundation of> > > predicitive > > > astrology then who can save them?> > > > > > > > > , "dipika> > > blr" > > > <blr.aspirant@> wrote:> > > >> > > > "But did you see at any point of time anything> > > regarding future was> > > > spelt?There are many ways to find the past and few> > > routes to tell > > > you the> > > > future."> > > > > > > > A Sage who saw 1000s of years future, generally> > > predicts upto your > > > present> > > > age---and very vaguely about your future(While> > > continuing to > > > predict the> > > > pasts of any future such clients) ---food for> > > thought!> > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > More than those who hate you, more than all your> > > enemies, an > > > undisciplined *> > > > mind* does greater harm. ~ *Buddha*> > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:23 AM, TKP Ghopal> > > <astrogopalji@> > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > Mahaguru KSK said the NADi astrology is 100%> > > correct and its > > > handlers> > > > > are 99% wrong.> > > > > Your refernce of an MP is a testimony no> > > doubt.But did you see at > > > any point> > > > > of time anything regarding future was> > > spelt?There are many ways > > > to find the> > > > > past and few routes to tell you the future.> > > > > Regards> > > > > tkp> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On 10/20/08, maheswara_varma> > > <maheswara_varma@> wrote:> > > > >>> > > > >> *An excerpt from an interview with> > > Abdullakutty (Kerala MP) > > > on Nadi> > > > >> Astrology *> > > > >>> > > > >> *Making things worse, you wrote an article> > > in a travel > > > magazine,> > > > >> describing your trip to a Nadi astrologer> > > � where a pandit > > > reads one's> > > > >> destiny through the thumb -- in Tamil Nadu.*> > > > >> **> > > > >> **> > > > >> The article was distorted out of proportions by> > > the media, which > > > was> > > > >> totally unneeded. I made the visit out of> > > curiosity and > > > travelled to> > > > >> Thanjavur. Then I shared my experiences with> > > readers. It was > > > meant as just a> > > > >> travelogue. No one should read more into it.> > > > >>> > > > >> *The article was amazingly written. That apart,> > > it is uncommon > > > for a> > > > >> Communist MP -- that too a Muslim -- to visit> > > a Nadi > > > astrologer.*> > > > >> **> > > > >> I have said why I went. Thanjavur always> > > attracts two kinds of > > > people --> > > > >> one to know the future, the other tourists.> > > India's culture is > > > different. So> > > > >> is our ethos. There is myth, fact and fiction.> > > I can't run away > > > from the> > > > >> age-old customs and beliefs. There is no harm> > > in visiting such > > > places. But I> > > > >> repeat -- it was pure curiosity that took me> > > there.> > > > >>> > > > >> **> > > > >> *But you wanted to know your date of birth. (He> > > did not know his > > > exact> > > > >> date). Were you convinced after the visit? *> > > > >> **> > > > >> Yes, it was an enlightening experience. It was> > > a search for > > > destiny.> > > > >> Whatever they said was almost true. Out of> > > nowhere, an > > > astrologer came with> > > > >> a scripture -- written in ancient Tamil -- and> > > read out all > > > details about> > > > >> my date of birth, including my star. I was> > > stunned. The real > > > shocker came> > > > >> next. The pandit asked me if I was an MLA or> > > MP. Such shockers > > > kept coming.> > > > >> Then came another stunner, "You are not a Hindu> > > and you are an > > > atheist.> > > > >> Neither do you believe in Nadi astrology." I> > > could not believe > > > myself. Then> > > > >> he started narrating tales from the past,> > > present and future.> > > > >>> > > > >> It is said that details of all human beings> > > were written by > > > sages such as> > > > >> Vashishta, Agastya, Bhrigu and recorded at the> > > Vaitheeswaran > > > Kovil. It was a> > > > >> revelation. A curious mind left with a> > > contended heart> > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger./invite/> > Mail - deshmukhv@ > > My MailGroupsMail Help SearchSearch:Welcome, > deshmukhv> > [sign Out, My Account]Mail Home > > Mail| Contacts| Calendar| Notepad Options Check MailCompose Search > > Mail: Search MailSearch the Web > > > > > > Folders[Add - Edit] > > Inbox (4681) Draft Sent Bulk (34)[Empty] Trash[Empty] My > Folders[Hide]> > 123 > > Search Shortcuts > > My Photos My Attachments > > Cricket> > scores & more > > Previous | Next | Back to Messages > > DeleteReplyForwardMove... > > Printable View This message is not flagged. [ Flag Message - > Mark as > > Unread ] > > Date:Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:12:39 +0000 (GMT)> > "vbdeshmukh" deshmukhv@ View Contact Details > > Subject:Re: : Welcome to . > Visit today! > > To:" Moderator" <-> owner > > CC:deshmukhv@> > Dear Sir, > > Thank You for accepting me as a member of your august> > group.> > I had my first brush with Naadi/ Samhita Astrology> > more than twenty years ago ! My meeting with> > Naadi/Samhita astrologer Shri Rajnikbhai ( also known> > as Chhayashastri ) at his office cum residence at> > Lamington Rd. was not at all on my cards when I > > happened to be in Bombay\Mumbai for a technical> > seminar. However, when I learnt that the said seminar> > was postponed due to unavoidable circumstances I took> > the opportunity to look him up him and what followed> > was a mind boggling experience !!It shattered my ego> > that I could take charge of my life and do exactly> > what I wished to do in my life.The first thing that I> > realised was that that I had no say whatsoever about> > my identity like my name,my parent's name,the no. of> > my brothers and sisters who were alive at that> > time.However, the climaxing point was when the name of> > my wife was disclosed by Rajnikbhai,the Naadi reader.> > I had married a lady after my own heart and it created> > a stir and opposition from my ortohdox family because> > she belonged to a different caste ! I thought I did a> > great thing by doing what I considered was my> > prerogative to exercise my option of free will to> > decide what was best im my own interest little knowing> > that I was destined to marry the same lady regardless> > ! It dawned on me that Iwas actually following a> > script/programme already written for me complete with> > dramatis personae like the names of persons and their> > relationship clearly defined in the drama called LIFE!> > (Did'nt Shakespere say that the world is a stage and> > that we are all actors or some thing like that ? )Did > > I really Have a choice or do I have any choice in> > life? I was convinced that I like all others was> > already programmed when I was born. My unique genetic> > make up / genetic predesposition ensured at all times> > that my physical, mental and emotional responses were> > as outlined by the programme at the byte> > level/micro/sookshma level at any given time or> > situation. I realised that all of us follow our > > programme in our own unique way whether we like it or> > not.It is the Supreme Will of the Creator that even in> > the most intimate relationship the progrmmes of any> > two individuals would never-ever match upto 100% !Thre> > is simply no duplication in the programme as you do> > not find duplication in nature or the creation.After> > meeting the Naadi-astrologer,my outlook on life was> > totally changed.I began to accept myself as Iam and> > accept others too as they are-good, bad or ugly. They> > are there because of their programme about which they> > have no choice as much as I do not have.We are bound> > by this programme which is nothing but our destiny or> > Fate over which we simply have no control!I ceased to> > hate or despise anybody including those who can be> > called enemies who are absent in my life because of my> > altered perception. At age 74, Iam quite contended and> > with peace with myself.> > After my first meeting with Naadi-astrologer, I became> > crazy with Naadi/ Samhitas and experienced no. of> > them all over India with friends and relatives.with> > various results which ranged from Divine to plain> > rubbish !! No regrets.> > However, as a student of Astrology for over 18 years,> > I can venture to say that Naadi Shastra is not> > astrology which is based on Astronomy but a system of> > divination based on its own parameters which are> > simply beyond human definations. I am therefore not at> > all in favour of clubbing Naadi with astrology which I> > consider a misnomer.> > I have some more things to share with our Group but> > for now I would like to sign off. > > Thanking you once again and with very warm regards,> > VB Deshmukh/ Thane/ Maharashtra.> > > > > > > > > > Moderator> > -owner wrote:> > > > > > > > Hello,> > > > > > Welcome to the group at > > > Groups, a > > > group dedicated for discussion of Naadi Astrology> > > and for sharing and Interacting with Naadi> > > Enthusiasts of their experinces with Naadi> > > predictions. > > > > > > To learn more about the group, please> > > visit> > > . If you> > > are new to Naadi Predictions please read the> > > document titled "Nadi Astrology - An> > > Introduction.doc" from the Files section.> > > > > > DO NOT REGISTER TO PROMOTE YOUR SITES OR SALES OR> > > POST ANY IN THIS FORUM. YOU ARE> > > WASTING TIME!!! > > > > > > YOUR REGISTRATION AND YOUR S WILL BE> > > DELETED WITHIN MINUTES OF POSTING. 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Guest guest Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Vinoth, Its better to read C.S. patel's books on Nadi, specially " Nadi Astrology " & " Navamsha and Nadi Astrology " . RG Rao, personally will not advise..in a 300 page book, the technique may be jotted down to 2-3 pages, else its a waste[A personal comment!!]. Samethings happen when you buy Deva Keralam --you may spend Rs.1000 in buying the voluminous book--but once you jot down the techniques, it will be only of one page. Certainly few combinations are interesting & works fine, but what about rest? Thank you, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Dear Members, With due respect to Mr. R. G. Rao on personal front as a individual, let me honestly speak that having gone through ALL of his publications purchased directly from his home through a friend of mine in Bangalore, who consulted him for a week on astro points...... browsed through his books few times..... still lost what is the technique he used for many of the statements made in parts of his own books/analysis are contracdicted in other...... Mr. is utterly wrong in his statement - it is NOT 300 pages, but more than 3,000 pages REPEAT - THREE THOUSAND pages.... and yet you do not any grip or inference of the technique .....finally you are LOST. I did give those books to those interested in my astro_circle...including few to Sreenadh....... all of them came to similar independent conclusions. I do not know the ardent followers of Mr. R.G. Rao whom I call them USA_Group, inspite of their knowledge, why they blindly keep eulogizing him..... including Mr. Ramadoss Rao another direct only student of Mr. R.G. Rao. I invite others also to share their independent opionions. Conclusion : Unless, we the educated stop blindly following the lesser sychopant contributors and start giving credence to those genuine contributors to Astrology.... use our mind with discretion, we still be living or end up with Rahu astrology. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Dear Members Thanks for sharing your views about publications of R.G.Rao.I request more views from our members and also particularly from Ramadas Rao ,as a student knows his guru more than anybody else if he participates in this forum However i wish to put forth some points which were discussed in another forum supposedly to be from R.G.Rao work on Bhrigu nandi nadi They are as follows 1.Ketu in the 2nd house to Jupiter Indicated the native to be born near a temple 2.As Jupiter is retrograde,he will gain fame in a place other than his native place. 3.Mercury conjunct with mars indicates educational breaksMercury is karaka for intellect and education. 4.Sun's aspect on Jupiter show indicates that he will settle in a big town and will receive government honours 5.Moon's place in second to saturn also indicates wanderings in many places during his younger days. 6.Saturn has the moon in next house and ketu in 3rd to him.As a consequence the native will acquire knowledge of several subjects which remained secrets for decades 7.he native will be of soft nature as indicated by Jupiter-Ketu combination.He will have faith in the divine. 8.Saturn in the 2nd house of sun the native will step into father's place and work there. 9.Jupiter and Ketu in the 7th to saturn show the native will outshine his father and amass money 10.Jupiter-ketu combination means the native would have been born near a church or female deitys temple.Otherwise he would have been born in a maternity centre. These are all isolated statements by the author and are supposed to work on all charts according to the person who discussed the post except the 8th point where he describes the 8th point which he found not working in his case despite his inclination.The 10th point is quite common nowadays unless he is born in a desert. Expert views required from astrologers to probe the points and to study the merits and demerits of the points raised with respect to arsha school of teaching Regards Vinoth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Dear Vinoth-ji, My own observations are as below : Point 1) I have Ketu in 2H to Jup. No close-by temple near my birth place. Point 3) Mars & Mercury conjunct in my 2H. I had poor result in 12th Std. Just scraped thru. But no breaks in education. Had just sufficient percentage marks to get in to engg. I do have some doubts about the point no. 3. Because Mars & Mercury conjunct need not be that rare. regards Chakraborty vinothkumarmd [vinothkumarmd] Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:51 AM Re: Nadi Astrology Dear Members Thanks for sharing your views about publications of R.G.Rao.I request more views from our members and also particularly from Ramadas Rao ,as a student knows his guru more than anybody else if he participates in this forum However i wish to put forth some points which were discussed in another forum supposedly to be from R.G.Rao work on Bhrigu nandi nadi They are as follows 1.Ketu in the 2nd house to Jupiter Indicated the native to be born near a temple 2.As Jupiter is retrograde,he will gain fame in a place other than his native place. 3.Mercury conjunct with mars indicates educational breaksMercury is karaka for intellect and education. 4.Sun's aspect on Jupiter show indicates that he will settle in a big town and will receive government honours 5.Moon's place in second to saturn also indicates wanderings in many places during his younger days. 6.Saturn has the moon in next house and ketu in 3rd to him.As a consequence the native will acquire knowledge of several subjects which remained secrets for decades 7.he native will be of soft nature as indicated by Jupiter-Ketu combination.He will have faith in the divine. 8.Saturn in the 2nd house of sun the native will step into father's place and work there. 9.Jupiter and Ketu in the 7th to saturn show the native will outshine his father and amass money 10.Jupiter-ketu combination means the native would have been born near a church or female deitys temple.Otherwise he would have been born in a maternity centre. These are all isolated statements by the author and are supposed to work on all charts according to the person who discussed the post except the 8th point where he describes the 8th point which he found not working in his case despite his inclination.The 10th point is quite common nowadays unless he is born in a desert. Expert views required from astrologers to probe the points and to study the merits and demerits of the points raised with respect to arsha school of teaching Regards Vinoth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 dear List Many times i wrote abt this combinations will not work in general charts Even some memebr who said they r teaching free Nadi technics ( raos <nadi ) when asked abt rationality of the said dictums as most of the planets other than Moon will b in a rasi for more than one month hence it is too much generalisation here ,he is yet to answer his conclusions even after 3 weeks i think 1.Ketu in the 2nd house to Jupiter Indicated the native to be born near a temple#### In india every village and place has one mandir atleast as Grama devata or stala devata even in kerala all fuedal Houses has one mandir even near the Jointfamily quarters or fort or palace 2.As Jupiter is retrograde,he will gain fame in a place other than his native place.########Again too much generalisation as jup will b vakra around 3 months time min. 3.Mercury conjunct with mars indicates educational breaksMercury is karaka for intellect and education.#### Min 25 days merc can b with mars and sure due to various reasons other than nativ 's ability can giv educational breaks too 4.Sun's aspect on Jupiter show indicates that he will settle in a big town and will receive government honours############## According to R G Rao's own theory of aspects SUn can aspect jup on so many moths altogether ,even if consider direct aspect it will b 2 months atleast in every year 5.Moon's place in second to saturn also indicates wanderings in many places during his younger days.##########No comnts ( use ur own logic ) 6.Saturn has the moon in next house and ketu in 3rd to him.As a consequence the native will acquire knowledge of several subjects which remained secrets for decades##############No commnts ,Think abt moon yogas like sunapha ,anapha and malefics r difficult tho it can cancell kemadroom yoga 7.he native will be of soft nature as indicated by Jupiter-Ketu combination.He will have faith in the divine.######## india's first PM pt ,jawahar lal nehrue was never admistted openly he has faith in devine nor he has faith in indian old sciences ,tho it was exposed later he was declairing frm roof top that all this is was bogus or fake 8.Saturn in the 2nd house of sun the native will step into father's place and work there.###### No commnts as it is bad yoga according to suryadi yoga s ( Vosi ,vasi yogas in vedic astrology ) 9.Jupiter and Ketu in the 7th to saturn show the native will outshine his father and amass money#########dont remebr any charts now ,but needs to see with logic and i dont think this will work as it is almost 1 yr this combo will remain so 10.Jupiter-ketu combination means the native would have been born near a church or female deitys temple.Otherwise he would have been born in a maternity centre.########## Maternity centre possible as every one born in hospital in india now and world ABT proximity of temple and church i said b4 in my observations rgrds sunil nair , CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:>> Dear Vinoth-ji,> > My own observations are as below :> > Point 1) I have Ketu in 2H to Jup. No close-by temple near my birth place.> > Point 3) Mars & Mercury conjunct in my 2H. I had poor result in 12th Std.> Just scraped thru. But no breaks in education. Had just sufficient> percentage marks to get in to engg.> > I do have some doubts about the point no. 3. Because Mars & Mercury> conjunct need not be that rare.> > regards> > Chakraborty> > > vinothkumarmd [vinothkumarmd]> Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:51 AM> > Re: Nadi Astrology> > > > > > Dear Members> > Thanks for sharing your views about publications of R.G.Rao.I request more> views from our members and also particularly from Ramadas Rao ,as a student> knows his guru more than anybody else if he participates in this forum> > However i wish to put forth some points which were discussed in another> forum supposedly to be from R.G.Rao work on Bhrigu nandi nadi> > They are as follows> > 1.Ketu in the 2nd house to Jupiter Indicated the native to be born near a> temple> > 2.As Jupiter is retrograde,he will gain fame in a place other than his> native place.> > 3.Mercury conjunct with mars indicates educational breaksMercury is karaka> for intellect and education.> > 4.Sun's aspect on Jupiter show indicates that he will settle in a big town> and will receive government honours> > 5.Moon's place in second to saturn also indicates wanderings in many places> during his younger days.> > 6.Saturn has the moon in next house and ketu in 3rd to him.As a consequence> the native will acquire knowledge of several subjects which remained secrets> for decades> > 7.he native will be of soft nature as indicated by Jupiter-Ketu> combination.He will have faith in the divine.> > 8.Saturn in the 2nd house of sun the native will step into father's place> and work there.> > 9.Jupiter and Ketu in the 7th to saturn show the native will outshine his> father and amass money> > 10.Jupiter-ketu combination means the native would have been born near a> church or female deitys temple.Otherwise he would have been born in a> maternity centre.> > These are all isolated statements by the author and are supposed to work on> all charts according to the person who discussed the post except the 8th> point where he describes the 8th point which he found not working in his> case despite his inclination.The 10th point is quite common nowadays unless> he is born in a desert.> > Expert views required from astrologers to probe the points and to study the> merits and demerits of the points raised with respect to arsha school of> teaching> > Regards> > Vinoth> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Dear Mr. Vinoth ji, 1.Ketu in the 2nd house to Jupiter Indicated the native to be born near a templeSreeram Comments : Has no relevance nowadays. 2.As Jupiter is retrograde,he will gain fame in a place other than his native place. Sreeram Comments : This is totally incorrect statement. The word FAME needs to be replaced with "successful". Case : Male, 23-Dec-1977, 17:30 hrs, Vijayawada. - Gemini Lagna, Jupiter in retro in Lagna. This person was born and would also die in the same place, can never think of leaving his birth place, (based on my own knowledge of his family and other things)does not mean, he would end up begging (corollary of generic statement)...for he is surviving on his own. Infact this horrorscope has 4 Retrograde planets. 3.Mercury conjunct with mars indicates educational breaksMercury is karaka for intellect and education. Sreeram Comments : Incorrect statement, needs to couple it with dasha and lordship. Earlier I posted a chart of a female...posting it again - Female, 24-Feb-1975, 05:30 hrs, Jalandhar, Punjab, India. Capricon Lagna. Mars & Mercury conjunct. Mercury is 6HL. NO breaks, infact merit scholoarship holder 4.Sun's aspect on Jupiter show indicates that he will settle in a big town and will receive government honours Sreeram Comments : Refer to the birth data given in Point No.1. (Gemini Lagna) That native has Jupiter ® in Lagna & Sun in 7H - mutual aspect. Vijayawada is a small town....for past 40 yrs., still almost same size, (with minor expansion that is allowed considering the time). The native is a dental surgeon practising on his own. With his skills, I do not know, may be possible for him to earn Govt. honors only after he completes few more births ..... 5.Moon's place in second to saturn also indicates wanderings in many places during his younger days. Sreeram Comments : Irrelevant statement now. Infact in major cases of depression are seen in this cases. Case: Female, 21-Nov-1984, 20:15hrs, Visakhapatnam or Visag, Andhra Pradesh, India. Gemini Lagna, Saturn & Moon conjunct in 5H. NO trace of wanderings of any sort. She was consistently among top - 10 in her class throughout her academics. 6.Saturn has the moon in next house and ketu in 3rd to him.As a consequence the native will acquire knowledge of several subjects which remained secrets for decadesSreeram Comments : NO comments. Do not have this combination in my database. 7.he native will be of soft nature as indicated by Jupiter-Ketu combination.He will have faith in the divine. Sreeram Comments :Male, 07-June-1965, 00:45 hrs., New Delhi. Aquarius Lagna, Jupiter conjunct with Rahu along 4H & 10H axis. The statement is irrelevant and is too generic. Mere aspect of Jupiter would make the native God fearing..... unless when other malefics join to start questioning the existence of God !!! 8.Saturn in the 2nd house of sun the native will step into father's place and work there. Sreeram Comments : Male 22-June-1977, 21:05hrs., Lachmangarh, Rajastan, India. Capricon Lagna, Sun in 6H, Saturn in 7H. Father a trader in hardware (nuts & bolts, industrial steel products). Son is a Safety Office. Has NO relation whatsoever with any IRON metals. He did not work even a single day with his father...... Infact this combination is not good for longevity of Father. 9.Jupiter and Ketu in the 7th to saturn show the native will outshine his father and amass moneySreeram Comments : Does NOT work. Test it yourself. Belies conventional astro_logics. 10.Jupiter-ketu combination means the native would have been born near a church or female deitys temple.Otherwise he would have been born in a maternity centre. Sreeram Comments : NO relevance of this statement in today's world. Conclusion : Mr. R.G. Rao is a Nadi astrologer and his techniques are all Nadi principles based in which there is NO dasha or Star. Nadi is about Progression of a planet for each year, taking the karaka and transits. With this in background and applying Vimshottari and other conventional astro_logics from Parashara or Arsha or ...etc. school of thoughts....it is quite resoundingly clear that the above mentioned deeply researched nadi statements of Mr. R. G. Rao - DOES NOT WORK I have given actual birth data with such combinations and tested with actual events. You are also encouraged to apply it yourself and test it. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Dear Mr. Vinoth ji, The few combinations posted by you, given by Mr. R.G. Rao in his Nadi techniques or interpretations..etc. they fail even when one applies the known Nadi techniques ...i.e. planetary progression, by sheer use of Nadi's own logics. Forget other school of thoughts - for they are far better than Mr. R.G. Rao i.e. even a roadside publication of a commentary on BPHS would be better. I am open to criticism on this. If time permits, one day would upload all soft copies of his publication (hope everyone would defend me against any legal suits on copyright....)...for to test themselves about so much publicized Rahu's Nadi Astrology. Note: My differences are technical and NOTHING personal. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 I thought that when jupiter aspects 4 th house there will be a temple near his house. When Ketu is connected with 4 th house there will be a crematorium or burial ground or other things related with ketu next to his house.Chiranjiv Mehta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Respected Sunil Nair, I agree with you that there is too much generalisation in nadi astrology. But it has some specialty also, such as the planet in one direction has combined effect. Planet in 2nd or 12th has its effect on the planets Planet in 7th has its main effect on the planet. Saturn is karaka for Work. Moon is change, travel and cheating. Ketu is saint like and does not like to work. Whenever there is transit of Ketu over Saturn or Saturn over natal Ketu, the native changes or voluntarity resign from the job. Mars is husband in the chart of female. Mars, Moon and Ketu are the malefics. Saturn and Jupiter combination gives status and advance ment in career, so on. We out rightly can not condom nadi. It has its own merits and speciality. We have to learn and observe the results of nadi more and apply them in the astrology, because astrology recognises lagna, dasha and bhukti and varga etc. Regards --- On Tue, 6/30/09, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Re: Nadi Astrology Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 12:31 PM dear List Many times i wrote abt this combinations will not work in general charts Even some memebr who said they r teaching free Nadi technics ( raos <nadi ) when asked abt rationality of the said dictums as most of the planets other than Moon will b in a rasi for more than one month hence it is too much generalisation here ,he is yet to answer his conclusions even after 3 weeks i think 1.Ketu in the 2nd house to Jupiter Indicated the native to be born near a temple #### In india every village and place has one mandir atleast as Grama devata or stala devata even in kerala all fuedal Houses has one mandir even near the Jointfamily quarters or fort or palace 2.As Jupiter is retrograde,he will gain fame in a place other than his native place. ######## Again too much generalisation as jup will b vakra around 3 months time min. 3.Mercury conjunct with mars indicates educational breaksMercury is karaka for intellect and education. #### Min 25 days merc can b with mars and sure due to various reasons other than nativ 's ability can giv educational breaks too 4.Sun's aspect on Jupiter show indicates that he will settle in a big town and will receive government honours ############## According to R G Rao's own theory of aspects SUn can aspect jup on so many moths altogether ,even if consider direct aspect it will b 2 months atleast in every year 5.Moon's place in second to saturn also indicates wanderings in many places during his younger days. ##########No comnts ( use ur own logic ) 6.Saturn has the moon in next house and ketu in 3rd to him.As a consequence the native will acquire knowledge of several subjects which remained secrets for decades ##############No commnts ,Think abt moon yogas like sunapha ,anapha and malefics r difficult tho it can cancell kemadroom yoga 7.he native will be of soft nature as indicated by Jupiter-Ketu combination.He will have faith in the divine. ######## india's first PM pt ,jawahar lal nehrue was never admistted openly he has faith in devine nor he has faith in indian old sciences ,tho it was exposed later he was declairing frm roof top that all this is was bogus or fake 8.Saturn in the 2nd house of sun the native will step into father's place and work there. ###### No commnts as it is bad yoga according to suryadi yoga s ( Vosi ,vasi yogas in vedic astrology ) 9.Jupiter and Ketu in the 7th to saturn show the native will outshine his father and amass money #########dont remebr any charts now ,but needs to see with logic and i dont think this will work as it is almost 1 yr this combo will remain so 10.Jupiter-ketu combination means the native would have been born near a church or female deitys temple.Otherwise he would have been born in a maternity centre. ########## Maternity centre possible as every one born in hospital in india now and world ABT proximity of temple and church i said b4 in my observations rgrds sunil nair , CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote: > > Dear Vinoth-ji, > > My own observations are as below : > > Point 1) I have Ketu in 2H to Jup. No close-by temple near my birth place. > > Point 3) Mars & Mercury conjunct in my 2H. I had poor result in 12th Std. > Just scraped thru. But no breaks in education. Had just sufficient > percentage marks to get in to engg. > > I do have some doubts about the point no. 3. Because Mars & Mercury > conjunct need not be that rare. > > regards > > Chakraborty > > > vinothkumarmd [vinothkumarmd] > Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:51 AM > > Re: Nadi Astrology > > > > > > Dear Members > > Thanks for sharing your views about publications of R.G.Rao.I request more > views from our members and also particularly from Ramadas Rao ,as a student > knows his guru more than anybody else if he participates in this forum > > However i wish to put forth some points which were discussed in another > forum supposedly to be from R.G.Rao work on Bhrigu nandi nadi > > They are as follows > > 1.Ketu in the 2nd house to Jupiter Indicated the native to be born near a > temple > > 2.As Jupiter is retrograde,he will gain fame in a place other than his > native place. > > 3.Mercury conjunct with mars indicates educational breaksMercury is karaka > for intellect and education. > > 4.Sun's aspect on Jupiter show indicates that he will settle in a big town > and will receive government honours > > 5.Moon's place in second to saturn also indicates wanderings in many places > during his younger days. > > 6.Saturn has the moon in next house and ketu in 3rd to him.As a consequence > the native will acquire knowledge of several subjects which remained secrets > for decades > > 7.he native will be of soft nature as indicated by Jupiter-Ketu > combination.He will have faith in the divine. > > 8.Saturn in the 2nd house of sun the native will step into father's place > and work there. > > 9.Jupiter and Ketu in the 7th to saturn show the native will outshine his > father and amass money > > 10.Jupiter-ketu combination means the native would have been born near a > church or female deitys temple.Otherwise he would have been born in a > maternity centre. > > These are all isolated statements by the author and are supposed to work on > all charts according to the person who discussed the post except the 8th > point where he describes the 8th point which he found not working in his > case despite his inclination.The 10th point is quite common nowadays unless > he is born in a desert. > > Expert views required from astrologers to probe the points and to study the > merits and demerits of the points raised with respect to arsha school of > teaching > > Regards > > Vinoth > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Dear and Members Thanks for the reply.I downloaded Devakeralam from Online library of India which hosted Volume 1 and volume 2.I found only few nadiamsas discussed and there were confusions regarding the names of nadiamsas. It would be helpful if anybody can guide me where i can find the following book by C.S.Patel 1.Navamsa and nadi astrology This book is out of print since 2004 accoeding to sagar publication.I even tried to buy it in retail bookstores and it is out of stock since 2-3 years.Sagar publications is not sure whether they will publish it or not. IF anybody who possess this book come forward to share it in electronic format ,it will do good to the astrological fraternity asmi am afraid the book will no longer be available to anybody unless got through acquintances Regards Vinoth , " " <gaurav.ghosh wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Vinoth, > Its better to read C.S. patel's books on Nadi, specially " Nadi Astrology " & " Navamsha and Nadi Astrology " . > RG Rao, personally will not advise..in a 300 page book, the technique may be jotted down to 2-3 pages, else its a waste[A personal comment!!]. > Samethings happen when you buy Deva Keralam --you may spend Rs.1000 in buying the voluminous book--but once you jot down the techniques, it will be only of one page. > Certainly few combinations are interesting & works fine, but what about rest? > Thank you, > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 I can give you the Photostat copy which should serve the purpose. There is another book written by him on Navamsha which too is very good. You may call me on 09323522663 if you require these books. regards/Bhaskar. , " vinothkumarmd " <vinothkumarmd wrote: > > Dear and Members > > > Thanks for the reply.I downloaded Devakeralam from Online library of India which hosted Volume 1 and volume 2.I found only few nadiamsas discussed and there were confusions regarding the names of nadiamsas. > > It would be helpful if anybody can guide me where i can find the following book by C.S.Patel > > 1.Navamsa and nadi astrology > > This book is out of print since 2004 accoeding to sagar publication.I even tried to buy it in retail bookstores and it is out of stock since 2-3 years.Sagar publications is not sure whether they will publish it or not. > > IF anybody who possess this book come forward to share it in electronic format ,it will do good to the astrological fraternity asmi am afraid the book will no longer be available to anybody unless got through acquintances > > Regards > > Vinoth > > , " " gaurav.ghosh@ wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Vinoth, > > Its better to read C.S. patel's books on Nadi, specially " Nadi Astrology " & " Navamsha and Nadi Astrology " . > > RG Rao, personally will not advise..in a 300 page book, the technique may be jotted down to 2-3 pages, else its a waste[A personal comment!!]. > > Samethings happen when you buy Deva Keralam --you may spend Rs.1000 in buying the voluminous book--but once you jot down the techniques, it will be only of one page. > > Certainly few combinations are interesting & works fine, but what about rest? > > Thank you, > > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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