a basic doubt on panchang with differing dates of saturn transit

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--- On Fri, 9/25/09, chandan s sabarwal <wavelogix+jyotishremedies

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chandan s sabarwal <wavelogix+jyotishremedies

Re: a basic doubt on panchang with differing dates of saturn

transit

 

Friday, September 25, 2009, 4:07 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

sri ganeshaya namah

 

dear vattem ji,

 

you can google for djwhal khul ayaaamsa and you should get the necessary info.

this ayanamsa was however revealed to a buddhist monk while in meditation and he

gave it to the world.

 

i believe the proof of the pudding lies in eating , so please test this ayanamsa

and everything looks very crystal clear to me.

 

also , surya siddhanta dosent really mention any specific year or degree , so

one cannot simply wait for an ayanamsa that fits surya siddhanta logic.

 

the more we experiment with an unbiased mind,the better for phalita jyotisa.

 

humbly,

chandan s sabarwal.

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Shri Chandan Ji,

> Very useful information. can You give some link to understand about " djwhal

khul ayanamasa "

> How is this Ayanamsa gained importance and who is the proponent?Since how long

it's application is in prevalence.How does it match with Surya Siddhanta? for

planetary positions.

> what about Astronomical significances? How does the nodes represent as per

this ayanmsa.This information will be helpful to understand it's relevance.Yet

it is not clear how Almanacs/Known as Pnachngas in circulation on Gnaith and

other wise vakya are rlevant to the concept of Ayanamsa?Do you agree all

panchangas are basically ganitha based?

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

>  

>

> --- On Fri, 9/25/09, chandan s sabarwal <wavelogix+jyotishr emedies@. ..>

wrote:

>

>

> chandan s sabarwal <wavelogix+jyotishr emedies@. ..>

> Re: a basic doubt on panchang with differing dates of saturn

transit

>

> Friday, September 25, 2009, 8:41 AM

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> sri ganeshaya namah

>

> dear all,

>

> im using djwhal khul ayanamasa and it gives me saturns transit date to virgo

on 26th october.

>

> i have found this ayanamsa to be very useful and precise. also , we not must

forget that when lahiri ayanamsa was officially stamped as the only correct one

by the indian goverment, there were a total of 33 ayanamasa values in the

running !!

>

> this djwhal khul ayanamsa maps the sideral zodiac to begin with krittika

nakshtra , since krittika nakshtra is the face of the kalapurusha and thus the

first nakshatra.

>

> even maharishi parasara in bphs mentions vimshottari dasha periods starting

from krittika and not any other nakshatra , just implying that the nakshatra

indeed begin from krittika.

>

> everyone may try this ayanamsa and share your views . just dont be surprised

if grahas appear in a different rashi as grahas close to the rashi borders will

just have moved a rashi prior.

>

> humbly,

> chandan s sabarwal.

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Prashant ji,

> >

> > //u will find sani Payarchi in many still 4 months later I mean sani in

Kanya for vakya can be from sept 26 to 4 months later .all u need a brand name

for ur panchanga sell it by the tree's name.//

> >

> > Upto 4 months means a difference of almost 10deg.

> >

> > What could be the basis of this computation in your opinion?.

> >

> > regards

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > astro <gbp_kumar@ ..>

> >

> > Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:29:51 PM

> > Re: a basic doubt on panchang with differing dates of saturn

transit

> >

> >  

> >

> > Dear Krishna ji

> >

> > well I am surfe u r aware of the great panchage reforms commitee's delima

and had to deal with 33 panchangs or ayanamsa so the Lahiris who headed the

comitter finally thrust his own on the nation to havea uniform one for holidays

to central, state govt for festivals

> >

> > and in the comitte the Vakya lobby is known th vae had the max raccus, noise

levels

> > and they still follow it in TN the Pambu panchangam is one and itself has

diff varities from diff districts/temples of TN

> > say kanchi follows rashtriya, sriranga,,, Madurai vetc have their own shades

of it

> > and in TN vakya prevails over Ganitha

> >

> > u will find sani Payarchi in many still 4 months later I mean sani in Kanya

for vakya can be from sept 26 to 4 months later

> > all u need a brand name for ur panchanga sell it by the tree's name.

> >

> > prashant

> >

> > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Friends,

> > > The Panchnaga discussion was also in the group some time back.Most of the

populat panchang published in vernacular languages are Ganida panchang

only.Vakya Panchang is of academic significance. In Benares(Gurukul

Kangdi) there is a core group that studies astrnomical features and involves in

Vakya panchang serving for academic purpose.it's usage however is limited.for

today application however it is ganita Panchang as they are avilable in shops

commercially.

> > > Even Rashtriya Sanskrit Vidya Peeth in New Delhi too publishes every year

Ganitha Panchang.Most of the panchang are now synchronised and agree with Shri

Lahari's Ephemeris.

> > > Now about Loss of Chatram and the rainy day of 12th Sept mentioned:

> > > Very interesting of the 9P.M on 12th Sept as I see lagna of mars was

raising in Aries at 15.52 degrees.Lagna lord Mars was in 3rd with moon.Exactly

moon crossed .20 degrees of saturn present in 9th from (rasi 4th) square to 6th

housearound 4.10 p..m Theft: " chora bhayam " must be felt by the aspect of saturn

on moon(10th).Possibly some servant must have taken it and was noticed by a

lady(?)

> > > Any way ,Shri Tripathy Ji is no looser and gainer is his friend that

predicted recovery of umberella.

> > > we have now a cover up(Chatram) for saturn joining his friend(Mercury) in

exaltation but in retrograde.in Kanya

> > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > Cyber Jyotish Services

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> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ ...>

> > >

> > > Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:02:43 PM

> > > Re: Re: a basic doubt on panchang with differing dates of

saturn transit

> > >

> > >  

> > > Dear Mrithyunjay Tripati Ji,

> > >

> > > That is interesting. Can you elaborate ?

> > >

> > > Umbrella or Chatram is attributed to Rahu. How wonder how transit of

saturn should point to it. Or is it because of the black color of the umbrella

- Saturns color?

> > >

> > > or is there any other factor?

> > >

> > > regards

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.  

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > jyotish <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay >

> > >

> > > Wednesday, September 23, 2009 4:50:52 PM

> > > Re: a basic doubt on panchang with differing dates of saturn

transit

> > >

> > >  

> > > Dear friend,

> > >

> > > Around 12th septemer 2009 around 9 PM I lost a black coloured umbrella

> > >

> > > which had been predicted in advance by one of my astrologer friend

> > >

> > > using Ganita based Panghangam

> > >

> > > simply based on Saturn's transit into virgo.

> > >

> > > Majority of people opine in favour of it.

> > >

> > > I have no experience of Vakya Panchangam.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy

> > >

> > > , " sankaranarayanan k.s "

<shankypriyan@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gurujis,

> > > >  

> > > > There are two panchangs used namely Vakya panchang and Thirukganida

panchang.

> > > >  

> > > > The transitions of planets differ in these two panchang. For eg Saturn

transit was on 9.9.09 according to Ganida Panchang but Vakya panchang shows as

26th Sep 09. The temples including thirunallar celebrate on 26th only.

> > > >  

> > > > What is the diff between these two panchangs. Horescopes are calaculated

based on which panchang?

> > > >  

> > > > For a child born on say 15.9 will the saturn be in simha or kanya?

> > > >  

> > > > Can you please guide us.

> > > >  

> > > > Regards

> > > >  

> > > > Sankar

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >