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To all learned/experienced members,

 

What are affects and remidies of KS yoga in IndianIndipendence chart, the

details of affect may be analysed since the day of selection of Jinna and Nehru

by Mahatma Gandhi.

 

P K Tripathy,

Vedic Scientiest.

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PKT,

 

well it is not right the 3 u named made several mistakes but not this, this was

left to some others like babu rajendra prasad, satyanarayana sinha, sardar patel

etc who prevailed upon the 3 u named to see at least we get the lesser of the

evil and 1st pak gets it it was unfurtunately their wish

 

so in Mesha lagna they did suffer its result a break up in the East [bangladesh]

B V raman had predicted this way back in Oct 1947 itself

that Pak will break up and its Punjab alone willremain east pak, sind, NWFP,,

Baluchistan will break away finally and be indipendent blocks

 

 

India will simmer with differences on and off but will remain in tact. if u can

get the Old issues of ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE PL do read them

 

prashant

 

 

 

 

 

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Monday, September 28, 2009 8:01:38 PM

Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

 

To all learned/experienced members,

 

What are affects and remidies of KS yoga in IndianIndipendence chart, the

details of affect may be analysed since the day of selection of Jinna and Nehru

by Mahatma Gandhi.

 

P K Tripathy,

Vedic Scientiest.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Friend,

This issue is a long and continued debate as kalsarpayoga observed and felt in

Indian Chart.the question however remains how true is the impact of nodes on the

country.it is only that we thing to be religion of rahu is different from

Ketu.If rahu is north node ketu is south node.

If rahu represents mercury sign wise,ketu represents jupiter and so we bear many

things under pressure as we know what is undevided Indai.Please read various

articles particulalry Astrology of Gaytri Vasu Dev in Annual numbers from 2004

onwards.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

 

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Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Monday, September 28, 2009, 10:31 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

To all learned/experienced members,

 

What are affects and remidies of KS yoga in IndianIndipendence chart, the

details of affect may be analysed since the day of selection of Jinna and Nehru

by Mahatma Gandhi.

 

P K Tripathy,

Vedic Scientiest.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Friend,

Thank you for your response but this is not my querry,just go through the querry

categorically and reply to it please.

With best wishes,

P K Tripathy.

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

 

Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:16:04 AM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

 

Dear Friend,

This issue is a long and continued debate as kalsarpayoga observed and felt in

Indian Chart.the question however remains how true is the impact of nodes on the

country.it is only that we thing to be religion of rahu is different from

Ketu.If rahu is north node ketu is south node.

If rahu represents mercury sign wise,ketu represents jupiter and so we bear many

things under pressure as we know what is undevided Indai.Please read various

articles particulalry Astrology of Gaytri Vasu Dev in Annual numbers from 2004

onwards.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

 

--- On Mon, 9/28/09, pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ > wrote:

 

pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ >

Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Monday, September 28, 2009, 10:31 AM

 

 

 

To all learned/experienced members,

 

What are affects and remidies of KS yoga in IndianIndipendence chart, the

details of affect may be analysed since the day of selection of Jinna and Nehru

by Mahatma Gandhi.

 

P K Tripathy,

Vedic Scientiest.

 

 

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Dear friend,

 

This is a highly controversial topic.

 

Still I am doing my humble efforts.

 

Only one definition of KSY found in Brihat Samhita of

 

reknowned astrologer Varahamihira. That also relates to Mundane Astrology.

 

Results relates to 'Praja Shashya Vinashah':

 

Loss of human life and loss of crops.

 

But it is intestting to note that

 

Rahu while moving from Taurus to aries ...pisces ..aquarius

 

upto ketu's natal position in scorpio in

 

Indian Independence chart

 

never gets the chance to

 

swallow a single planet.

 

So as per sage Varahamihira's definition

 

no KSY found in Indian Independence Chart.

 

---------------------

By the way the lagna is 7 degree Taurus quite close to Rahu at 5 degree

 

....so there is

 

strong affliction to the natal chart of India

 

by the Nodes.

 

 

--------------------------------

 

Then how does heavy loss of human life and severe shortage in foods happened

immediately after independence ?

 

Let us see the vimshottari period.

 

It was Sat-Sat.

 

Mars as 12th lord ruling over losses

 

strongly afflicting the 2nd cusp ruling over

 

India's resources (human and fiancial assets).

 

Mahadasa lord Saturn placed in constellation of

 

2nd lord Mercury ...so giving the

 

result pertaining to losses of 2nd house matter.

-----------------

 

Also as per standard astrological text like BPHS

 

treat Mahadasa lord Saturn's sign as Lagna.

 

The 4th and 5th lord from natal saturn are

 

Venus and Mars.

 

Venus suffering combustion by 2nd lord Sun and

 

affliction from 8th lord and 7th lord Saturn loss of

 

public life.

 

5th lord mars badly placed in 12th therefrom.

 

Combustion of 8th lord Saturn also indicates

 

loss of crops due to erratic monsoon.

 

 

With regards,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

, Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89 wrote:

>

> Dear Friend,

> Thank you for your response but this is not my querry,just go through the

querry categorically and reply to it please.

> With best wishes,

> P K Tripathy.

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

>

> Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:16:04 AM

> Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

>

>

> Dear Friend,

> This issue is a long and continued debate as kalsarpayoga observed and felt in

Indian Chart.the question however remains how true is the impact of nodes on the

country.it is only that we thing to be religion of rahu is different from

Ketu.If rahu is north node ketu is south node.

> If rahu represents mercury sign wise,ketu represents jupiter and so we bear

many things under pressure as we know what is undevided Indai.Please read

various articles particulalry Astrology of Gaytri Vasu Dev in Annual numbers

from 2004 onwards.

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

>

>

> --- On Mon, 9/28/09, pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ > wrote:

>

> pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ >

> Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

>

> Monday, September 28, 2009, 10:31 AM

>

>

>

> To all learned/experienced members,

>

> What are affects and remidies of KS yoga in IndianIndipendence chart, the

details of affect may be analysed since the day of selection of Jinna and Nehru

by Mahatma Gandhi.

>

> P K Tripathy,

> Vedic Scientiest.

>

>

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Dear tripaty Ji,

 

nice effort.

 

Thank you for posting it.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

________________________________

jyotish <astrologer_mrutyunjay

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:29:55 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

 

Dear friend,

 

This is a highly controversial topic.

 

Still I am doing my humble efforts.

 

Only one definition of KSY found in Brihat Samhita of

 

reknowned astrologer Varahamihira. That also relates to Mundane Astrology.

 

Results relates to 'Praja Shashya Vinashah':

 

Loss of human life and loss of crops.

 

But it is intestting to note that

 

Rahu while moving from Taurus to aries ...pisces ..aquarius

 

upto ketu's natal position in scorpio in

 

Indian Independence chart

 

never gets the chance to

 

swallow a single planet.

 

So as per sage Varahamihira' s definition

 

no KSY found in Indian Independence Chart.

 

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ------

By the way the lagna is 7 degree Taurus quite close to Rahu at 5 degree

 

....so there is

 

strong affliction to the natal chart of India

 

by the Nodes.

 

------------ --------- --------- --

 

Then how does heavy loss of human life and severe shortage in foods happened

immediately after independence ?

 

Let us see the vimshottari period.

 

It was Sat-Sat.

 

Mars as 12th lord ruling over losses

 

strongly afflicting the 2nd cusp ruling over

 

India's resources (human and fiancial assets).

 

Mahadasa lord Saturn placed in constellation of

 

2nd lord Mercury ...so giving the

 

result pertaining to losses of 2nd house matter.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --

 

Also as per standard astrological text like BPHS

 

treat Mahadasa lord Saturn's sign as Lagna.

 

The 4th and 5th lord from natal saturn are

 

Venus and Mars.

 

Venus suffering combustion by 2nd lord Sun and

 

affliction from 8th lord and 7th lord Saturn loss of

 

public life.

 

5th lord mars badly placed in 12th therefrom.

 

Combustion of 8th lord Saturn also indicates

 

loss of crops due to erratic monsoon.

 

With regards,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

, Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Friend,

> Thank you for your response but this is not my querry,just go through the

querry categorically and reply to it please.

> With best wishes,

> P K Tripathy.

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

>

> Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:16:04 AM

> Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

>

>

> Dear Friend,

> This issue is a long and continued debate as kalsarpayoga observed and felt in

Indian Chart.the question however remains how true is the impact of nodes on the

country.it is only that we thing to be religion of rahu is different from

Ketu.If rahu is north node ketu is south node.

> If rahu represents mercury sign wise,ketu represents jupiter and so we bear

many things under pressure as we know what is undevided Indai.Please read

various articles particulalry Astrology of Gaytri Vasu Dev in Annual numbers

from 2004 onwards.

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

>

>

> --- On Mon, 9/28/09, pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ > wrote:

>

> pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ >

> Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

>

> Monday, September 28, 2009, 10:31 AM

>

>

>

> To all learned/experienced members,

>

> What are affects and remidies of KS yoga in IndianIndipendence chart, the

details of affect may be analysed since the day of selection of Jinna and Nehru

by Mahatma Gandhi.

>

> P K Tripathy,

> Vedic Scientiest.

>

>

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pkt,

 

WELL b v rAMAN JI has in numerous anual numbers of the astrological magazine

covered this area and he has said KSY has dampened the yogas of UNO, INDIAN, PAK

etc as they suck the enrgy of the said bodies. for more read archives of AM.

 

prashant

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:22:26 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

 

Dear Friend,

Thank you for your response but this is not my querry,just go through the querry

categorically and reply to it please.

With best wishes,

P K Tripathy.

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

 

Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:16:04 AM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear Friend,

This issue is a long and continued debate as kalsarpayoga observed and felt in

Indian Chart.the question however remains how true is the impact of nodes on the

country.it is only that we thing to be religion of rahu is different from

Ketu.If rahu is north node ketu is south node.

If rahu represents mercury sign wise,ketu represents jupiter and so we bear many

things under pressure as we know what is undevided Indai.Please read various

articles particulalry Astrology of Gaytri Vasu Dev in Annual numbers from 2004

onwards.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

 

--- On Mon, 9/28/09, pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ > wrote:

 

pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ >

Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Monday, September 28, 2009, 10:31 AM

 

To all learned/experienced members,

 

What are affects and remidies of KS yoga in IndianIndipendence chart, the

details of affect may be analysed since the day of selection of Jinna and Nehru

by Mahatma Gandhi.

 

P K Tripathy,

Vedic Scientiest.

 

 

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Gentleman,

 

So far as my knowledge is concerned,for last 3 decades(excluding post BVR

publication disputes for few years) neither late Dr.BV Raman,present editor

Gayatri Devi Vasudev,even lead astrologer Mr K N Rao,IAAS, Mr T.N Seshan,and

many otthers have published the KSY affect on IIC as detailed in thequerry.

However, if you have such articles exactly meeting to the querry please let me

know.Pl. see that the articles must be meeting to the querry.

 

P.K.Tripathy

Vedic Scientiest.

 

 

________________________________

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:46:37 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

 

 

 

pkt,

 

WELL b v rAMAN JI has in numerous anual numbers of the astrological magazine

covered this area and he has said KSY has dampened the yogas of UNO, INDIAN, PAK

etc as they suck the enrgy of the said bodies. for more read archives of AM.

 

prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:22:26 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear Friend,

Thank you for your response but this is not my querry,just go through the querry

categorically and reply to it please.

With best wishes,

P K Tripathy.

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

 

Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:16:04 AM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear Friend,

This issue is a long and continued debate as kalsarpayoga observed and felt in

Indian Chart.the question however remains how true is the impact of nodes on the

country.it is only that we thing to be religion of rahu is different from

Ketu.If rahu is north node ketu is south node.

If rahu represents mercury sign wise,ketu represents jupiter and so we bear many

things under pressure as we know what is undevided Indai.Please read various

articles particulalry Astrology of Gaytri Vasu Dev in Annual numbers from 2004

onwards.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

--- On Mon, 9/28/09, pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ > wrote:

 

pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ >

Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Monday, September 28, 2009, 10:31 AM

 

To all learned/experienced members,

 

What are affects and remidies of KS yoga in IndianIndipendence chart, the

details of affect may be analysed since the day of selection of Jinna and Nehru

by Mahatma Gandhi.

 

P K Tripathy,

Vedic Scientiest.

 

 

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Dear Mr.Mrutyunajaya Tripathy,/A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

It is a matter of great shucking and deeply regrettable how such type of

astrologer being entertained for giving wrong views and supporting to each

other. Pl.at least go through posting of Mr Prashant on the board you will get

both of yours reply and there were huge discussions on KSY on IIC on different

megazines also perhaps Mr.Mrutunjaya does not have time to review it and have

time to write and tell Suresh Babu to support it blindly.However, for your kind

information KSY is not only there in IIC but also effecting since the day of

indipendence, to which many lead astrologers are under research, please go

through the details and sit on the board particularly when you comment senior

vedic scholors report.Simply supporting one others wrong view can not take

awaythe KSY yoga from IIC.One should have practical interpreting vision tio

ancient shastra while talking about BPHS,Brihat Samnita etc.If you move down

the lane in enterpreting IIC,you will find no

year in IICis free from KSY affect.

 

P K Tripathy.

 

 

________________________________

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:02:43 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

 

Dear tripaty Ji,

 

nice effort.

 

Thank you for posting it.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

jyotish <astrologer_mrutyunj ay >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:29:55 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

 

Dear friend,

 

This is a highly controversial topic.

 

Still I am doing my humble efforts.

 

Only one definition of KSY found in Brihat Samhita of

 

reknowned astrologer Varahamihira. That also relates to Mundane Astrology.

 

Results relates to 'Praja Shashya Vinashah':

 

Loss of human life and loss of crops.

 

But it is intestting to note that

 

Rahu while moving from Taurus to aries ...pisces ..aquarius

 

upto ketu's natal position in scorpio in

 

Indian Independence chart

 

never gets the chance to

 

swallow a single planet.

 

So as per sage Varahamihira' s definition

 

no KSY found in Indian Independence Chart.

 

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ------

By the way the lagna is 7 degree Taurus quite close to Rahu at 5 degree

 

.....so there is

 

strong affliction to the natal chart of India

 

by the Nodes.

 

------------ --------- --------- --

 

Then how does heavy loss of human life and severe shortage in foods happened

immediately after independence ?

 

Let us see the vimshottari period.

 

It was Sat-Sat.

 

Mars as 12th lord ruling over losses

 

strongly afflicting the 2nd cusp ruling over

 

India's resources (human and fiancial assets).

 

Mahadasa lord Saturn placed in constellation of

 

2nd lord Mercury ...so giving the

 

result pertaining to losses of 2nd house matter.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --

 

Also as per standard astrological text like BPHS

 

treat Mahadasa lord Saturn's sign as Lagna.

 

The 4th and 5th lord from natal saturn are

 

Venus and Mars.

 

Venus suffering combustion by 2nd lord Sun and

 

affliction from 8th lord and 7th lord Saturn loss of

 

public life.

 

5th lord mars badly placed in 12th therefrom.

 

Combustion of 8th lord Saturn also indicates

 

loss of crops due to erratic monsoon.

 

With regards,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

, Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Friend,

> Thank you for your response but this is not my querry,just go through the

querry categorically and reply to it please.

> With best wishes,

> P K Tripathy.

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

>

> Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:16:04 AM

> Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

>

>

> Dear Friend,

> This issue is a long and continued debate as kalsarpayoga observed and felt in

Indian Chart.the question however remains how true is the impact of nodes on the

country.it is only that we thing to be religion of rahu is different from

Ketu.If rahu is north node ketu is south node.

> If rahu represents mercury sign wise,ketu represents jupiter and so we bear

many things under pressure as we know what is undevided Indai.Please read

various articles particulalry Astrology of Gaytri Vasu Dev in Annual numbers

from 2004 onwards.

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

>

>

> --- On Mon, 9/28/09, pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ > wrote:

>

> pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ >

> Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

>

> Monday, September 28, 2009, 10:31 AM

>

>

>

> To all learned/experienced members,

>

> What are affects and remidies of KS yoga in IndianIndipendence chart, the

details of affect may be analysed since the day of selection of Jinna and Nehru

by Mahatma Gandhi.

>

> P K Tripathy,

> Vedic Scientiest.

>

>

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Dear Tripathy,

 

Haha..

 

Perhaps you should do " scientific " research on languages and what an expression

" nice effort " means.

 

Most of the old members very well know that I don't acknowledge Kalasarpa yoga

at all except porbably if all the planets are on side , particularly Shree

Mrithyunjay Tripathy ji.

 

It would do you good to read my articles on the subject.

 

I have not seen Indian Independance day chart till now, for reasons of my own.

 

I am not at all interested in your " research " or these postings. So spare me. do

not drag me into this.

 

As of now none of your postings were worth attending to nor  did it had any

quality expected from a " Vedic Scientist " .

 

I do have better things to do. 

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:25:13 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

 

Dear Mr.Mrutyunajaya Tripathy,/A. G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

It is a matter of great shucking and deeply regrettable how such type of

astrologer being entertained for giving wrong views and supporting to each

other. Pl.at least go through posting of Mr Prashant on the board you will get

both of yours reply and there were huge discussions on KSY on IIC on different

megazines also perhaps Mr.Mrutunjaya does not have time to review it and have

time to write and tell Suresh Babu to support it blindly.However, for your kind

information KSY is not only there in IIC but also effecting since the day of

indipendence, to which many lead astrologers are under research, please go

through the details and sit on the board particularly when you comment senior

vedic scholors report.Simply supporting one others wrong view can not take

awaythe KSY yoga from IIC.One should have practical interpreting vision tio

ancient shastra while talking about BPHS,Brihat Samnita etc.If you move down the

lane in enterpreting IIC,you will find no

year in IICis free from KSY affect.

 

P K Tripathy.

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:02:43 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear tripaty Ji,

 

nice effort.

 

Thank you for posting it.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

jyotish <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:29:55 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear friend,

 

This is a highly controversial topic.

 

Still I am doing my humble efforts.

 

Only one definition of KSY found in Brihat Samhita of

 

reknowned astrologer Varahamihira. That also relates to Mundane Astrology.

 

Results relates to 'Praja Shashya Vinashah':

 

Loss of human life and loss of crops.

 

But it is intestting to note that

 

Rahu while moving from Taurus to aries ...pisces ..aquarius

 

upto ketu's natal position in scorpio in

 

Indian Independence chart

 

never gets the chance to

 

swallow a single planet.

 

So as per sage Varahamihira' s definition

 

no KSY found in Indian Independence Chart.

 

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ------

By the way the lagna is 7 degree Taurus quite close to Rahu at 5 degree

 

.....so there is

 

strong affliction to the natal chart of India

 

by the Nodes.

 

------------ --------- --------- --

 

Then how does heavy loss of human life and severe shortage in foods happened

immediately after independence ?

 

Let us see the vimshottari period.

 

It was Sat-Sat.

 

Mars as 12th lord ruling over losses

 

strongly afflicting the 2nd cusp ruling over

 

India's resources (human and fiancial assets).

 

Mahadasa lord Saturn placed in constellation of

 

2nd lord Mercury ...so giving the

 

result pertaining to losses of 2nd house matter.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --

 

Also as per standard astrological text like BPHS

 

treat Mahadasa lord Saturn's sign as Lagna.

 

The 4th and 5th lord from natal saturn are

 

Venus and Mars.

 

Venus suffering combustion by 2nd lord Sun and

 

affliction from 8th lord and 7th lord Saturn loss of

 

public life.

 

5th lord mars badly placed in 12th therefrom.

 

Combustion of 8th lord Saturn also indicates

 

loss of crops due to erratic monsoon.

 

With regards,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

, Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Friend,

> Thank you for your response but this is not my querry,just go through the

querry categorically and reply to it please.

> With best wishes,

> P K Tripathy.

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

>

> Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:16:04 AM

> Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

>

>

> Dear Friend,

> This issue is a long and continued debate as kalsarpayoga observed and felt in

Indian Chart.the question however remains how true is the impact of nodes on the

country.it is only that we thing to be religion of rahu is different from

Ketu.If rahu is north node ketu is south node.

> If rahu represents mercury sign wise,ketu represents jupiter and so we bear

many things under pressure as we know what is undevided Indai.Please read

various articles particulalry Astrology of Gaytri Vasu Dev in Annual numbers

from 2004 onwards.

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

>

>

> --- On Mon, 9/28/09, pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ > wrote:

>

> pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ >

> Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

>

> Monday, September 28, 2009, 10:31 AM

>

>

>

> To all learned/experienced members,

>

> What are affects and remidies of KS yoga in IndianIndipendence chart, the

details of affect may be analysed since the day of selection of Jinna and Nehru

by Mahatma Gandhi.

>

> P K Tripathy,

> Vedic Scientiest.

>

>

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Dear Suresh ji

 

KN RAO too has not used o r believes in KSY but BVR has given many instances so

worth studying them

 

but there r some who put all of the problems under KSY and sade saat if u see

some group owner astrologer doing it in many groups he is present. that is

uncaled for as many other factors do decide a charts potential for good or bad

and most often it is a mixed bag even in a given day

 

as said subject is toovast, diverse, well spread so lets know them and apply

them and decide its use to us at least.

no branding them either good or bad helps

 

 

prashant

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:32:27 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

 

Dear Tripathy,

 

Haha..

 

Perhaps you should do " scientific " research on languages and what an expression

" nice effort " means.

 

Most of the old members very well know that I don't acknowledge Kalasarpa yoga

at all except porbably if all the planets are on side , particularly Shree

Mrithyunjay Tripathy ji.

 

It would do you good to read my articles on the subject.

 

I have not seen Indian Independance day chart till now, for reasons of my own.

 

I am not at all interested in your " research " or these postings. So spare me. do

not drag me into this.

 

As of now none of your postings were worth attending to nor did it had any

quality expected from a " Vedic Scientist " .

 

I do have better things to do.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:25:13 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

 

Dear Mr.Mrutyunajaya Tripathy,/A. G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

It is a matter of great shucking and deeply regrettable how such type of

astrologer being entertained for giving wrong views and supporting to each

other. Pl.at least go through posting of Mr Prashant on the board you will get

both of yours reply and there were huge discussions on KSY on IIC on different

megazines also perhaps Mr.Mrutunjaya does not have time to review it and have

time to write and tell Suresh Babu to support it blindly.However, for your kind

information KSY is not only there in IIC but also effecting since the day of

indipendence, to which many lead astrologers are under research, please go

through the details and sit on the board particularly when you comment senior

vedic scholors report.Simply supporting one others wrong view can not take

awaythe KSY yoga from IIC.One should have practical interpreting vision tio

ancient shastra while talking about BPHS,Brihat Samnita etc.If you move down the

lane in enterpreting IIC,you will find no

year in IICis free from KSY affect.

 

P K Tripathy.

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:02:43 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear tripaty Ji,

 

nice effort.

 

Thank you for posting it.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

jyotish <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:29:55 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear friend,

 

This is a highly controversial topic.

 

Still I am doing my humble efforts.

 

Only one definition of KSY found in Brihat Samhita of

 

reknowned astrologer Varahamihira. That also relates to Mundane Astrology.

 

Results relates to 'Praja Shashya Vinashah':

 

Loss of human life and loss of crops.

 

But it is intestting to note that

 

Rahu while moving from Taurus to aries ...pisces ..aquarius

 

upto ketu's natal position in scorpio in

 

Indian Independence chart

 

never gets the chance to

 

swallow a single planet.

 

So as per sage Varahamihira' s definition

 

no KSY found in Indian Independence Chart.

 

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ------

By the way the lagna is 7 degree Taurus quite close to Rahu at 5 degree

 

.....so there is

 

strong affliction to the natal chart of India

 

by the Nodes.

 

------------ --------- --------- --

 

Then how does heavy loss of human life and severe shortage in foods happened

immediately after independence ?

 

Let us see the vimshottari period.

 

It was Sat-Sat.

 

Mars as 12th lord ruling over losses

 

strongly afflicting the 2nd cusp ruling over

 

India's resources (human and fiancial assets).

 

Mahadasa lord Saturn placed in constellation of

 

2nd lord Mercury ...so giving the

 

result pertaining to losses of 2nd house matter.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --

 

Also as per standard astrological text like BPHS

 

treat Mahadasa lord Saturn's sign as Lagna.

 

The 4th and 5th lord from natal saturn are

 

Venus and Mars.

 

Venus suffering combustion by 2nd lord Sun and

 

affliction from 8th lord and 7th lord Saturn loss of

 

public life.

 

5th lord mars badly placed in 12th therefrom.

 

Combustion of 8th lord Saturn also indicates

 

loss of crops due to erratic monsoon.

 

With regards,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

, Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Friend,

> Thank you for your response but this is not my querry,just go through the

querry categorically and reply to it please.

> With best wishes,

> P K Tripathy.

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

>

> Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:16:04 AM

> Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

>

>

> Dear Friend,

> This issue is a long and continued debate as kalsarpayoga observed and felt in

Indian Chart.the question however remains how true is the impact of nodes on the

country.it is only that we thing to be religion of rahu is different from

Ketu.If rahu is north node ketu is south node.

> If rahu represents mercury sign wise,ketu represents jupiter and so we bear

many things under pressure as we know what is undevided Indai.Please read

various articles particulalry Astrology of Gaytri Vasu Dev in Annual numbers

from 2004 onwards.

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

>

>

> --- On Mon, 9/28/09, pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ > wrote:

>

> pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ >

> Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

>

> Monday, September 28, 2009, 10:31 AM

>

>

>

> To all learned/experienced members,

>

> What are affects and remidies of KS yoga in IndianIndipendence chart, the

details of affect may be analysed since the day of selection of Jinna and Nehru

by Mahatma Gandhi.

>

> P K Tripathy,

> Vedic Scientiest.

>

>

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Dear Pashant Ji,

 

What you have written is exactly my sentiments on the subject. Too much emphasis

have been laid on KSY and Sade sati, creating a fear physcosis in the minds of

the people, perhaps due to lack of knowledge of Astrologers or by those who

intends to grab more from the poor public. It is also funny that the public are

falling prey to those persons who brand themself as " jyotishacharyas " and New

wording " Vedic scientists " - after being 6 months into astrology books they

might have brought at railway platforms. All the while real acharyas are just

smiling in their small homes  & feeling pity for what is happening around them.

 

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:51:08 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

 

Dear Suresh ji

 

KN RAO too has not used o r believes in KSY but BVR has given many instances so

worth studying them

 

but there r some who put all of the problems under KSY and sade saat if u see

some group owner astrologer doing it in many groups he is present. that is

uncaled for as many other factors do decide a charts potential for good or bad

and most often it is a mixed bag even in a given day

 

as said subject is toovast, diverse, well spread so lets know them and apply

them and decide its use to us at least.

no branding them either good or bad helps

 

prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:32:27 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear Tripathy,

 

Haha..

 

Perhaps you should do " scientific " research on languages and what an expression

" nice effort " means.

 

Most of the old members very well know that I don't acknowledge Kalasarpa yoga

at all except porbably if all the planets are on side , particularly Shree

Mrithyunjay Tripathy ji.

 

It would do you good to read my articles on the subject.

 

I have not seen Indian Independance day chart till now, for reasons of my own.

 

I am not at all interested in your " research " or these postings. So spare me. do

not drag me into this.

 

As of now none of your postings were worth attending to nor did it had any

quality expected from a " Vedic Scientist " .

 

I do have better things to do.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:25:13 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear Mr.Mrutyunajaya Tripathy,/A. G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

It is a matter of great shucking and deeply regrettable how such type of

astrologer being entertained for giving wrong views and supporting to each

other. Pl.at least go through posting of Mr Prashant on the board you will get

both of yours reply and there were huge discussions on KSY on IIC on different

megazines also perhaps Mr.Mrutunjaya does not have time to review it and have

time to write and tell Suresh Babu to support it blindly.However, for your kind

information KSY is not only there in IIC but also effecting since the day of

indipendence, to which many lead astrologers are under research, please go

through the details and sit on the board particularly when you comment senior

vedic scholors report.Simply supporting one others wrong view can not take

awaythe KSY yoga from IIC.One should have practical interpreting vision tio

ancient shastra while talking about BPHS,Brihat Samnita etc.If you move down the

lane in enterpreting IIC,you will find no

year in IICis free from KSY affect.

 

P K Tripathy.

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:02:43 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear tripaty Ji,

 

nice effort.

 

Thank you for posting it.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

jyotish <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:29:55 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear friend,

 

This is a highly controversial topic.

 

Still I am doing my humble efforts.

 

Only one definition of KSY found in Brihat Samhita of

 

reknowned astrologer Varahamihira. That also relates to Mundane Astrology.

 

Results relates to 'Praja Shashya Vinashah':

 

Loss of human life and loss of crops.

 

But it is intestting to note that

 

Rahu while moving from Taurus to aries ...pisces ..aquarius

 

upto ketu's natal position in scorpio in

 

Indian Independence chart

 

never gets the chance to

 

swallow a single planet.

 

So as per sage Varahamihira' s definition

 

no KSY found in Indian Independence Chart.

 

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ------

By the way the lagna is 7 degree Taurus quite close to Rahu at 5 degree

 

.....so there is

 

strong affliction to the natal chart of India

 

by the Nodes.

 

------------ --------- --------- --

 

Then how does heavy loss of human life and severe shortage in foods happened

immediately after independence ?

 

Let us see the vimshottari period.

 

It was Sat-Sat.

 

Mars as 12th lord ruling over losses

 

strongly afflicting the 2nd cusp ruling over

 

India's resources (human and fiancial assets).

 

Mahadasa lord Saturn placed in constellation of

 

2nd lord Mercury ...so giving the

 

result pertaining to losses of 2nd house matter.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --

 

Also as per standard astrological text like BPHS

 

treat Mahadasa lord Saturn's sign as Lagna.

 

The 4th and 5th lord from natal saturn are

 

Venus and Mars.

 

Venus suffering combustion by 2nd lord Sun and

 

affliction from 8th lord and 7th lord Saturn loss of

 

public life.

 

5th lord mars badly placed in 12th therefrom.

 

Combustion of 8th lord Saturn also indicates

 

loss of crops due to erratic monsoon.

 

With regards,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

, Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Friend,

> Thank you for your response but this is not my querry,just go through the

querry categorically and reply to it please.

> With best wishes,

> P K Tripathy.

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

>

> Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:16:04 AM

> Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

>

>

> Dear Friend,

> This issue is a long and continued debate as kalsarpayoga observed and felt in

Indian Chart.the question however remains how true is the impact of nodes on the

country.it is only that we thing to be religion of rahu is different from

Ketu.If rahu is north node ketu is south node.

> If rahu represents mercury sign wise,ketu represents jupiter and so we bear

many things under pressure as we know what is undevided Indai.Please read

various articles particulalry Astrology of Gaytri Vasu Dev in Annual numbers

from 2004 onwards.

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

>

>

> --- On Mon, 9/28/09, pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ > wrote:

>

> pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ >

> Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

>

> Monday, September 28, 2009, 10:31 AM

>

>

>

> To all learned/experienced members,

>

> What are affects and remidies of KS yoga in IndianIndipendence chart, the

details of affect may be analysed since the day of selection of Jinna and Nehru

by Mahatma Gandhi.

>

> P K Tripathy,

> Vedic Scientiest.

>

>

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Dear Suresh babu ji,

 

well it is for the people like us to see ppl get the grain not the chaff with

adequate info on the diff aspects and there r some who dont use KSY, sade saat

but that is also a extreme position the right way is that a horoscipe has many

aspects to delve into else why will our rishies give so many elements-vargas,

balas,drishtis, yogas, ava yogas, yoga bhangas etc with over 17k elements t o

piece thru ppl using either a bad star or mangalik, or sade saat or ksy alone r

doing a disservice to it

 

on KSY on IIC i have seen raman, say

 

whenver the path crosses we find major upheavels in India

 

say in IIC we had rah in Vrishaba

 

in 56 it was ket over rah, the states disintration and linguistic states came in

then next rah over rah we saw Pak war come in and also new states in 65-66

 

in 74 Emergency, 83 rise of VHP, siekh fanatics at its height fueled it.

91-2 saw the Ayodhya controversy. 2001-02 saw many terror attacks at its height

apart for NAXAL violence.

 

prashant

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:07:17 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

 

Dear Pashant Ji,

 

What you have written is exactly my sentiments on the subject. Too much emphasis

have been laid on KSY and Sade sati, creating a fear physcosis in the minds of

the people, perhaps due to lack of knowledge of Astrologers or by those who

intends to grab more from the poor public. It is also funny that the public are

falling prey to those persons who brand themself as " jyotishacharyas " and New

wording " Vedic scientists " - after being 6 months into astrology books they

might have brought at railway platforms. All the while real acharyas are just

smiling in their small homes & feeling pity for what is happening around them.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:51:08 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

 

Dear Suresh ji

 

KN RAO too has not used o r believes in KSY but BVR has given many instances so

worth studying them

 

but there r some who put all of the problems under KSY and sade saat if u see

some group owner astrologer doing it in many groups he is present. that is

uncaled for as many other factors do decide a charts potential for good or bad

and most often it is a mixed bag even in a given day

 

as said subject is toovast, diverse, well spread so lets know them and apply

them and decide its use to us at least.

no branding them either good or bad helps

 

prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:32:27 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear Tripathy,

 

Haha..

 

Perhaps you should do " scientific " research on languages and what an expression

" nice effort " means.

 

Most of the old members very well know that I don't acknowledge Kalasarpa yoga

at all except porbably if all the planets are on side , particularly Shree

Mrithyunjay Tripathy ji.

 

It would do you good to read my articles on the subject.

 

I have not seen Indian Independance day chart till now, for reasons of my own.

 

I am not at all interested in your " research " or these postings. So spare me. do

not drag me into this.

 

As of now none of your postings were worth attending to nor did it had any

quality expected from a " Vedic Scientist " .

 

I do have better things to do.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:25:13 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear Mr.Mrutyunajaya Tripathy,/A. G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

It is a matter of great shucking and deeply regrettable how such type of

astrologer being entertained for giving wrong views and supporting to each

other. Pl.at least go through posting of Mr Prashant on the board you will get

both of yours reply and there were huge discussions on KSY on IIC on different

megazines also perhaps Mr.Mrutunjaya does not have time to review it and have

time to write and tell Suresh Babu to support it blindly.However, for your kind

information KSY is not only there in IIC but also effecting since the day of

indipendence, to which many lead astrologers are under research, please go

through the details and sit on the board particularly when you comment senior

vedic scholors report.Simply supporting one others wrong view can not take

awaythe KSY yoga from IIC.One should have practical interpreting vision tio

ancient shastra while talking about BPHS,Brihat Samnita etc.If you move down the

lane in enterpreting IIC,you will find no

year in IICis free from KSY affect.

 

P K Tripathy.

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:02:43 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear tripaty Ji,

 

nice effort.

 

Thank you for posting it.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

jyotish <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:29:55 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear friend,

 

This is a highly controversial topic.

 

Still I am doing my humble efforts.

 

Only one definition of KSY found in Brihat Samhita of

 

reknowned astrologer Varahamihira. That also relates to Mundane Astrology.

 

Results relates to 'Praja Shashya Vinashah':

 

Loss of human life and loss of crops.

 

But it is intestting to note that

 

Rahu while moving from Taurus to aries ...pisces ..aquarius

 

upto ketu's natal position in scorpio in

 

Indian Independence chart

 

never gets the chance to

 

swallow a single planet.

 

So as per sage Varahamihira' s definition

 

no KSY found in Indian Independence Chart.

 

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ------

By the way the lagna is 7 degree Taurus quite close to Rahu at 5 degree

 

.....so there is

 

strong affliction to the natal chart of India

 

by the Nodes.

 

------------ --------- --------- --

 

Then how does heavy loss of human life and severe shortage in foods happened

immediately after independence ?

 

Let us see the vimshottari period.

 

It was Sat-Sat.

 

Mars as 12th lord ruling over losses

 

strongly afflicting the 2nd cusp ruling over

 

India's resources (human and fiancial assets).

 

Mahadasa lord Saturn placed in constellation of

 

2nd lord Mercury ...so giving the

 

result pertaining to losses of 2nd house matter.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --

 

Also as per standard astrological text like BPHS

 

treat Mahadasa lord Saturn's sign as Lagna.

 

The 4th and 5th lord from natal saturn are

 

Venus and Mars.

 

Venus suffering combustion by 2nd lord Sun and

 

affliction from 8th lord and 7th lord Saturn loss of

 

public life.

 

5th lord mars badly placed in 12th therefrom.

 

Combustion of 8th lord Saturn also indicates

 

loss of crops due to erratic monsoon.

 

With regards,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

, Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Friend,

> Thank you for your response but this is not my querry,just go through the

querry categorically and reply to it please.

> With best wishes,

> P K Tripathy.

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

>

> Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:16:04 AM

> Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

>

>

> Dear Friend,

> This issue is a long and continued debate as kalsarpayoga observed and felt in

Indian Chart.the question however remains how true is the impact of nodes on the

country.it is only that we thing to be religion of rahu is different from

Ketu.If rahu is north node ketu is south node.

> If rahu represents mercury sign wise,ketu represents jupiter and so we bear

many things under pressure as we know what is undevided Indai.Please read

various articles particulalry Astrology of Gaytri Vasu Dev in Annual numbers

from 2004 onwards.

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

>

>

> --- On Mon, 9/28/09, pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ > wrote:

>

> pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ >

> Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

>

> Monday, September 28, 2009, 10:31 AM

>

>

>

> To all learned/experienced members,

>

> What are affects and remidies of KS yoga in IndianIndipendence chart, the

details of affect may be analysed since the day of selection of Jinna and Nehru

by Mahatma Gandhi.

>

> P K Tripathy,

> Vedic Scientiest.

>

>

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Dear Prashant Ji,

 

//in 56 it was ket over rah, the states disintration and linguistic states came

in

then next rah over rah we saw Pak war come in and also new states in 65-66//

 

If you are refering to the transit of planets over the nodes, do I have to

remind you that it is the technique that Sage Brighu used to predict events and

may not have anything to do with the present concept of KSY IN the NATIVE chart.

 

Sage Brighu has used the transit of planets through the signs and over native

planetary positions, in contrast to the present use of transit of planets from

native moon only.

 

In fact if you see my posts, I have used this concept where ever is relevant.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:22:24 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

 

Dear Suresh babu ji,

 

well it is for the people like us to see ppl get the grain not the chaff with

adequate info on the diff aspects and there r some who dont use KSY, sade saat

but that is also a extreme position the right way is that a horoscipe has many

aspects to delve into else why will our rishies give so many elements-vargas,

balas,drishtis, yogas, ava yogas, yoga bhangas etc with over 17k elements t o

piece thru ppl using either a bad star or mangalik, or sade saat or ksy alone r

doing a disservice to it

 

on KSY on IIC i have seen raman, say

 

whenver the path crosses we find major upheavels in India

 

say in IIC we had rah in Vrishaba

 

in 56 it was ket over rah, the states disintration and linguistic states came in

then next rah over rah we saw Pak war come in and also new states in 65-66

 

in 74 Emergency, 83 rise of VHP, siekh fanatics at its height fueled it.

91-2 saw the Ayodhya controversy. 2001-02 saw many terror attacks at its height

apart for NAXAL violence.

 

prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:07:17 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear Pashant Ji,

 

What you have written is exactly my sentiments on the subject. Too much emphasis

have been laid on KSY and Sade sati, creating a fear physcosis in the minds of

the people, perhaps due to lack of knowledge of Astrologers or by those who

intends to grab more from the poor public. It is also funny that the public are

falling prey to those persons who brand themself as " jyotishacharyas " and New

wording " Vedic scientists " - after being 6 months into astrology books they

might have brought at railway platforms. All the while real acharyas are just

smiling in their small homes & feeling pity for what is happening around them.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:51:08 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear Suresh ji

 

KN RAO too has not used o r believes in KSY but BVR has given many instances so

worth studying them

 

but there r some who put all of the problems under KSY and sade saat if u see

some group owner astrologer doing it in many groups he is present. that is

uncaled for as many other factors do decide a charts potential for good or bad

and most often it is a mixed bag even in a given day

 

as said subject is toovast, diverse, well spread so lets know them and apply

them and decide its use to us at least.

no branding them either good or bad helps

 

prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:32:27 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear Tripathy,

 

Haha..

 

Perhaps you should do " scientific " research on languages and what an expression

" nice effort " means.

 

Most of the old members very well know that I don't acknowledge Kalasarpa yoga

at all except porbably if all the planets are on side , particularly Shree

Mrithyunjay Tripathy ji.

 

It would do you good to read my articles on the subject.

 

I have not seen Indian Independance day chart till now, for reasons of my own.

 

I am not at all interested in your " research " or these postings. So spare me. do

not drag me into this.

 

As of now none of your postings were worth attending to nor did it had any

quality expected from a " Vedic Scientist " .

 

I do have better things to do.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:25:13 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear Mr.Mrutyunajaya Tripathy,/A. G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

It is a matter of great shucking and deeply regrettable how such type of

astrologer being entertained for giving wrong views and supporting to each

other. Pl.at least go through posting of Mr Prashant on the board you will get

both of yours reply and there were huge discussions on KSY on IIC on different

megazines also perhaps Mr.Mrutunjaya does not have time to review it and have

time to write and tell Suresh Babu to support it blindly.However, for your kind

information KSY is not only there in IIC but also effecting since the day of

indipendence, to which many lead astrologers are under research, please go

through the details and sit on the board particularly when you comment senior

vedic scholors report.Simply supporting one others wrong view can not take

awaythe KSY yoga from IIC.One should have practical interpreting vision tio

ancient shastra while talking about BPHS,Brihat Samnita etc.If you move down the

lane in enterpreting IIC,you will find no

year in IICis free from KSY affect.

 

P K Tripathy.

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:02:43 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear tripaty Ji,

 

nice effort.

 

Thank you for posting it.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

jyotish <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:29:55 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear friend,

 

This is a highly controversial topic.

 

Still I am doing my humble efforts.

 

Only one definition of KSY found in Brihat Samhita of

 

reknowned astrologer Varahamihira. That also relates to Mundane Astrology.

 

Results relates to 'Praja Shashya Vinashah':

 

Loss of human life and loss of crops.

 

But it is intestting to note that

 

Rahu while moving from Taurus to aries ...pisces ..aquarius

 

upto ketu's natal position in scorpio in

 

Indian Independence chart

 

never gets the chance to

 

swallow a single planet.

 

So as per sage Varahamihira' s definition

 

no KSY found in Indian Independence Chart.

 

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ------

By the way the lagna is 7 degree Taurus quite close to Rahu at 5 degree

 

.....so there is

 

strong affliction to the natal chart of India

 

by the Nodes.

 

------------ --------- --------- --

 

Then how does heavy loss of human life and severe shortage in foods happened

immediately after independence ?

 

Let us see the vimshottari period.

 

It was Sat-Sat.

 

Mars as 12th lord ruling over losses

 

strongly afflicting the 2nd cusp ruling over

 

India's resources (human and fiancial assets).

 

Mahadasa lord Saturn placed in constellation of

 

2nd lord Mercury ...so giving the

 

result pertaining to losses of 2nd house matter.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --

 

Also as per standard astrological text like BPHS

 

treat Mahadasa lord Saturn's sign as Lagna.

 

The 4th and 5th lord from natal saturn are

 

Venus and Mars.

 

Venus suffering combustion by 2nd lord Sun and

 

affliction from 8th lord and 7th lord Saturn loss of

 

public life.

 

5th lord mars badly placed in 12th therefrom.

 

Combustion of 8th lord Saturn also indicates

 

loss of crops due to erratic monsoon.

 

With regards,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

, Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Friend,

> Thank you for your response but this is not my querry,just go through the

querry categorically and reply to it please.

> With best wishes,

> P K Tripathy.

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

>

> Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:16:04 AM

> Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

>

>

> Dear Friend,

> This issue is a long and continued debate as kalsarpayoga observed and felt in

Indian Chart.the question however remains how true is the impact of nodes on the

country.it is only that we thing to be religion of rahu is different from

Ketu.If rahu is north node ketu is south node.

> If rahu represents mercury sign wise,ketu represents jupiter and so we bear

many things under pressure as we know what is undevided Indai.Please read

various articles particulalry Astrology of Gaytri Vasu Dev in Annual numbers

from 2004 onwards.

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

>

>

> --- On Mon, 9/28/09, pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ > wrote:

>

> pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ >

> Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

>

> Monday, September 28, 2009, 10:31 AM

>

>

>

> To all learned/experienced members,

>

> What are affects and remidies of KS yoga in IndianIndipendence chart, the

details of affect may be analysed since the day of selection of Jinna and Nehru

by Mahatma Gandhi.

>

> P K Tripathy,

> Vedic Scientiest.

>

>

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Dear Tripathy ji,

Here the intention is to comprehensively find whether KSY has any impact on the

sun continent?If so how KSY is relvent if mundane studies?

In the horoscope of nation,we are considering major events like homogenity of

nations,political maturity,upheavals if any,wars if any threatening the peace

and growth and development.

From 1947 till date in our country of 1 billion population,the resources have

been generated and used for public cause.

liteeracy rate has gone up from 18% to 29% till last census in 2006.Both

countries share peace on boarders .Development is the concern for both Pakistan

and India.peoplewants trade and each country thinks the need of the other.

As far as language,religion.in equity of economy of bothe countries,difference

in geographical siyuations,These are not made and nature creations.Astrology in

mundane aspects anlyses various parameter and studies the impact from time to

time'

Relevance of KSY on nations charts and taking incidents of some violence,killing

of the people ,boarder tensions etc is not holistic way of research.

From 1947 on wards both countries tried to find the need to come closer and and

do trade,exchange commodities and people to be in social contacts.marraiges to

happen with all kind of differences.

In such a background,how KSY is singled out,In fact about KSY people have their

own views.Astrologers opine and recently in nOv 2008 in EST,Prof Palniappan has

expressed very briefly about KSY.

Application for study of the Nations probably has no objectivity.her factors

like ethnicity,geogarphy.reosurces available and happiness Index etc are mor

matters of concern

In case if we want to find how dasa of of the two different nations contributed

to the growth and the time along with the will of people and their future

People of kashmir recently demonstrated that they want to have unified

identification and fair distribution of resources to meet their needs.

How rulers think and talk the political maturity are processes that differ from

time to time impinging on growth of bothe nations on either side of the

International baorders.

this talf of Independence of nations,Astrological rlevance and in particulalr

highlighting KSY for me has no relevance.

In fact KSY itself to link with mundane aspects itself need better appreciation.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

 

--- On Wed, 9/30/09, Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89 wrote:

 

 

Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 9:13 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gentleman,

 

So far as my knowledge is concerned,for last 3 decades(excluding post BVR

publication disputes for few years) neither late Dr.BV Raman,present editor

Gayatri Devi Vasudev,even lead astrologer Mr K N Rao,IAAS, Mr T.N Seshan,and

many otthers have published the KSY affect on IIC as detailed in thequerry.

However, if you have such articles exactly meeting to the querry please let me

know.Pl. see that the articles must be meeting to the querry.

 

P.K.Tripathy

Vedic Scientiest.

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:46:37 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

 

 

pkt,

 

WELL b v rAMAN JI has in numerous anual numbers of the astrological magazine

covered this area and he has said KSY has dampened the yogas of UNO, INDIAN, PAK

etc as they suck the enrgy of the said bodies. for more read archives of AM.

 

prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:22:26 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear Friend,

Thank you for your response but this is not my querry,just go through the querry

categorically and reply to it please.

With best wishes,

P K Tripathy.

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

 

Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:16:04 AM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear Friend,

This issue is a long and continued debate as kalsarpayoga observed and felt in

Indian Chart.the question however remains how true is the impact of nodes on the

country.it is only that we thing to be religion of rahu is different from

Ketu.If rahu is north node ketu is south node.

If rahu represents mercury sign wise,ketu represents jupiter and so we bear many

things under pressure as we know what is undevided Indai.Please read various

articles particulalry Astrology of Gaytri Vasu Dev in Annual numbers from 2004

onwards.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

--- On Mon, 9/28/09, pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ > wrote:

 

pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ >

Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Monday, September 28, 2009, 10:31 AM

 

To all learned/experienced members,

 

What are affects and remidies of KS yoga in IndianIndipendence chart, the

details of affect may be analysed since the day of selection of Jinna and Nehru

by Mahatma Gandhi.

 

P K Tripathy,

Vedic Scientiest.

 

 

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Dear respected members,

 

India is country of divergent people spaning a few thousand klms on either

directions, with cultures of their own.

 

A static planetory position is grossly inadequate to study or predict

effectively. 

 

Study of climates, geological events, countries, markets etc come in the perview

of Mundane Astrology.

 

The prime reqirement for " study " is a history of planetary motions and not one

days's chart.

 

For example :

It is given

If mars becomes retrograde in the 7th or 8th or 9th star from the star it comes

out of maudya, it is termed as " Ushna " and people who live with fire shall

suffer.

 

similarly if the vakra starts in the 10, 11, 12 nakshtra , it is termed

" ashwamukh " , it shall corrupt rasas (tastes), lack of  rains, illness shall be

felt.

   

Mars came out of Maudya on 09-Feb-2009 in the star of Utrashada And shall start

retro motion on 21-Dec-2009 in Aslesha star ie: 16nth star from Utrashada.

 

The above is from Brihat samhita which is taken from Vashishta Samhitha.

 

It is very clear what kind of information is neccessary to study such events.

Apart from other tools such Koorma Chakras etc are also emplyoed.

Narapathijayacharya a text, it claims, without studying, if a king attempts to

govern shall perish. A book written almost 1100 years extols kerala jyotish in

its starting verse. 

 

In short, without learning such texts and willing to sit & spend hours, we

cannot infer any concrete matters from a static chart.

 

Yesterday, A boat tragedy occured at Kumili trourist center, Idukki almost 40

persons have died.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy 

     

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

 

Thursday, October 1, 2009 6:05:46 AM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

 

Dear Tripathy ji,

Here the intention is to comprehensively find whether KSY has any impact on the

sun continent?If so how KSY is relvent if mundane studies?

In the horoscope of nation,we are considering major events like homogenity of

nations,political maturity,upheavals if any,wars if any threatening the peace

and growth and development.

From 1947 till date in our country of 1 billion population,the resources have

been generated and used for public cause.

liteeracy rate has gone up from 18% to 29% till last census in 2006.Both

countries share peace on boarders .Development is the concern for both Pakistan

and India.peoplewants trade and each country thinks the need of the other.

As far as language,religion. in equity of economy of bothe countries,differenc e

in geographical siyuations,These are not made and nature creations.Astrology in

mundane aspects anlyses various parameter and studies the impact from time to

time'

Relevance of KSY on nations charts and taking incidents of some violence,killing

of the people ,boarder tensions etc is not holistic way of research.

From 1947 on wards both countries tried to find the need to come closer and and

do trade,exchange commodities and people to be in social contacts.marraiges to

happen with all kind of differences.

In such a background,how KSY is singled out,In fact about KSY people have their

own views.Astrologers opine and recently in nOv 2008 in EST,Prof Palniappan has

expressed very briefly about KSY.

Application for study of the Nations probably has no objectivity. her factors

like ethnicity,geogarphy .reosurces available and happiness Index etc are mor

matters of concern

In case if we want to find how dasa of of the two different nations contributed

to the growth and the time along with the will of people and their future

People of kashmir recently demonstrated that they want to have unified

identification and fair distribution of resources to meet their needs.

How rulers think and talk the political maturity are processes that differ from

time to time impinging on growth of bothe nations on either side of the

International baorders.

this talf of Independence of nations,Astrologica l rlevance and in particulalr

highlighting KSY for me has no relevance.

In fact KSY itself to link with mundane aspects itself need better appreciation.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

 

--- On Wed, 9/30/09, Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ > wrote:

 

Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ >

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 9:13 AM

 

 

 

Gentleman,

 

So far as my knowledge is concerned,for last 3 decades(excluding post BVR

publication disputes for few years) neither late Dr.BV Raman,present editor

Gayatri Devi Vasudev,even lead astrologer Mr K N Rao,IAAS, Mr T.N Seshan,and

many otthers have published the KSY affect on IIC as detailed in thequerry.

However, if you have such articles exactly meeting to the querry please let me

know.Pl. see that the articles must be meeting to the querry.

 

P.K.Tripathy

Vedic Scientiest.

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:46:37 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

 

 

pkt,

 

WELL b v rAMAN JI has in numerous anual numbers of the astrological magazine

covered this area and he has said KSY has dampened the yogas of UNO, INDIAN, PAK

etc as they suck the enrgy of the said bodies. for more read archives of AM.

 

prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:22:26 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear Friend,

Thank you for your response but this is not my querry,just go through the querry

categorically and reply to it please.

With best wishes,

P K Tripathy.

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

 

Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:16:04 AM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear Friend,

This issue is a long and continued debate as kalsarpayoga observed and felt in

Indian Chart.the question however remains how true is the impact of nodes on the

country.it is only that we thing to be religion of rahu is different from

Ketu.If rahu is north node ketu is south node.

If rahu represents mercury sign wise,ketu represents jupiter and so we bear many

things under pressure as we know what is undevided Indai.Please read various

articles particulalry Astrology of Gaytri Vasu Dev in Annual numbers from 2004

onwards.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

--- On Mon, 9/28/09, pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ > wrote:

 

pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ >

Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Monday, September 28, 2009, 10:31 AM

 

To all learned/experienced members,

 

What are affects and remidies of KS yoga in IndianIndipendence chart, the

details of affect may be analysed since the day of selection of Jinna and Nehru

by Mahatma Gandhi.

 

P K Tripathy,

Vedic Scientiest.

 

 

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Dear Krishnan Jee,

 

Nice and incisive comments.

 

A lot of things to be pondered upon as far as

 

astrological parameters and their applicability is concerned.

 

Regards,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

 

In , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Tripathy ji,

> Here the intention is to comprehensively find whether KSY has any impact on

the sun continent?If so how KSY is relvent if mundane studies?

> In the horoscope of nation,we are considering major events like homogenity of

nations,political maturity,upheavals if any,wars if any threatening the peace

and growth and development.

> From 1947 till date in our country of 1 billion population,the resources have

been generated and used for public cause.

> liteeracy rate has gone up from 18% to 29% till last census in 2006.Both

countries share peace on boarders .Development is the concern for both Pakistan

and India.peoplewants trade and each country thinks the need of the other.

> As far as language,religion.in equity of economy of bothe countries,difference

in geographical siyuations,These are not made and nature creations.Astrology in

mundane aspects anlyses various parameter and studies the impact from time to

time'

> Relevance of KSY on nations charts and taking incidents of some

violence,killing of the people ,boarder tensions etc is not holistic way of

research.

> From 1947 on wards both countries tried to find the need to come closer and

and do trade,exchange commodities and people to be in social contacts.marraiges

to happen with all kind of differences.

> In such a background,how KSY is singled out,In fact about KSY people have

their own views.Astrologers opine and recently in nOv 2008 in EST,Prof

Palniappan has expressed very briefly about KSY.

> Application for study of the Nations probably has no objectivity.her factors

like ethnicity,geogarphy.reosurces available and happiness Index etc are mor

matters of concern

> In case if we want to find how dasa of of the two different nations

contributed to the growth and the time along with the will of people and their

future

> People of kashmir recently demonstrated that they want to have unified

identification and fair distribution of resources to meet their needs.

> How rulers think and talk the political maturity are processes that differ

from time to time impinging on growth of bothe nations on either side of the

International baorders.

> this talf of Independence of nations,Astrological rlevance and in particulalr

highlighting KSY for me has no relevance.

> In fact KSY itself to link with mundane aspects itself need better

appreciation.

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

>  

>

> --- On Wed, 9/30/09, Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89 wrote:

>

>

> Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89

> Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

>

> Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 9:13 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Gentleman,

>

> So far as my knowledge is concerned,for last 3 decades(excluding post BVR

publication disputes for few years) neither late Dr.BV Raman,present editor

Gayatri Devi Vasudev,even lead astrologer Mr K N Rao,IAAS, Mr T.N Seshan,and

many otthers have published the KSY affect on IIC as detailed in thequerry.

However, if you have such articles exactly meeting to the querry please let me

know.Pl. see that the articles must be meeting to the querry.

>

> P.K.Tripathy

> Vedic Scientiest.

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

>

> Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:46:37 PM

> Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

>

>  

>

> pkt,

>

> WELL b v rAMAN JI has in numerous anual numbers of the astrological magazine

covered this area and he has said KSY has dampened the yogas of UNO, INDIAN, PAK

etc as they suck the enrgy of the said bodies. for more read archives of AM.

>

> prashant

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ >

>

> Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:22:26 PM

> Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

>

> Dear Friend,

> Thank you for your response but this is not my querry,just go through the

querry categorically and reply to it please.

> With best wishes,

> P K Tripathy.

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

>

> Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:16:04 AM

> Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

>

> Dear Friend,

> This issue is a long and continued debate as kalsarpayoga observed and felt in

Indian Chart.the question however remains how true is the impact of nodes on the

country.it is only that we thing to be religion of rahu is different from

Ketu.If rahu is north node ketu is south node.

> If rahu represents mercury sign wise,ketu represents jupiter and so we bear

many things under pressure as we know what is undevided Indai.Please read

various articles particulalry Astrology of Gaytri Vasu Dev in Annual numbers

from 2004 onwards.

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

>

> --- On Mon, 9/28/09, pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ > wrote:

>

> pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ >

> Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

>

> Monday, September 28, 2009, 10:31 AM

>

> To all learned/experienced members,

>

> What are affects and remidies of KS yoga in IndianIndipendence chart, the

details of affect may be analysed since the day of selection of Jinna and Nehru

by Mahatma Gandhi.

>

> P K Tripathy,

> Vedic Scientiest.

>

>

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Dear friend,

 

I am sorry that

 

you are confusing

 

Kal Amrit Yoga

 

with Kal Sarp Yoga.

------------------------------

 

I HAVE ALREADY EXPLAINED THE PROBLEMS OF

 

INDIA'S SUFFERING WITHOUT

 

THE HELP OF KAL SARP YOGA.

 

-------------------------------

 

Can you please provide reference

 

for yours version/ definition of

 

Kal Sarp Yoga at least from any one

 

STANDARD ASTROLOGICAL TEXT

 

as per which KSY is applicable to IIC.

 

You can refer any standard text either on mundane or natal astrology.

 

( Brihat Samhita, Romak Samhita, Bhrigu Samhita, Parasara Samhita, Mayura

Samhita, Varahi Samhita, Bhadrabahu Samhita, Dhruv Samhita etc. etc.

 

including standard astrological texts on natal astrology such as

 

BPHS, Jataka Parijata, Jataka Desha Marga, Prasna Marga, Jaimini Sutram,

Sarvartha Chintamani, Vedanga Jyotisham, Atharva Jyotisha Sara, Phala Deepika,

Saravali, Hora Sara, Brihat Jatakam, Brihat Yavana Jatakams etc. etc.)

--

 

 

PLEASE CONTIRBUTE SOMETHING sincerly and honestly.

 

Regards,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

 

In , Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89 wrote:

>

> Dear Mr.Mrutyunajaya Tripathy,/A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> It is a matter of great shucking and deeply regrettable how such type of

astrologer being entertained for giving wrong views and supporting to each

other. Pl.at least go through posting of Mr Prashant on the board you will get

both of yours reply and there were huge discussions on KSY on IIC on different

megazines also perhaps Mr.Mrutunjaya does not have time to review it and have

time to write and tell Suresh Babu to support it blindly.However, for your kind

information KSY is not only there in IIC but also effecting since the day of

indipendence, to which many lead astrologers are under research, please go

through the details and sit on the board particularly when you comment senior

vedic scholors report.Simply supporting one others wrong view can not take

awaythe KSY yoga from IIC.One should have practical interpreting vision tio

ancient shastra while talking about BPHS,Brihat Samnita etc.If you move down

the lane in enterpreting IIC,you will find no

> year in IICis free from KSY affect.

>

> P K Tripathy.

>

>

> ________________________________

> Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag

>

> Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:02:43 PM

> Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

>

>

> Dear tripaty Ji,

>

> nice effort.

>

> Thank you for posting it.

>

> regards

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> jyotish <astrologer_mrutyunj ay >

>

> Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:29:55 PM

> Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

>

>

> Dear friend,

>

> This is a highly controversial topic.

>

> Still I am doing my humble efforts.

>

> Only one definition of KSY found in Brihat Samhita of

>

> reknowned astrologer Varahamihira. That also relates to Mundane Astrology.

>

> Results relates to 'Praja Shashya Vinashah':

>

> Loss of human life and loss of crops.

>

> But it is intestting to note that

>

> Rahu while moving from Taurus to aries ...pisces ..aquarius

>

> upto ketu's natal position in scorpio in

>

> Indian Independence chart

>

> never gets the chance to

>

> swallow a single planet.

>

> So as per sage Varahamihira' s definition

>

> no KSY found in Indian Independence Chart.

>

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ------

> By the way the lagna is 7 degree Taurus quite close to Rahu at 5 degree

>

> ....so there is

>

> strong affliction to the natal chart of India

>

> by the Nodes.

>

> ------------ --------- --------- --

>

> Then how does heavy loss of human life and severe shortage in foods happened

immediately after independence ?

>

> Let us see the vimshottari period.

>

> It was Sat-Sat.

>

> Mars as 12th lord ruling over losses

>

> strongly afflicting the 2nd cusp ruling over

>

> India's resources (human and fiancial assets).

>

> Mahadasa lord Saturn placed in constellation of

>

> 2nd lord Mercury ...so giving the

>

> result pertaining to losses of 2nd house matter.

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --

>

> Also as per standard astrological text like BPHS

>

> treat Mahadasa lord Saturn's sign as Lagna.

>

> The 4th and 5th lord from natal saturn are

>

> Venus and Mars.

>

> Venus suffering combustion by 2nd lord Sun and

>

> affliction from 8th lord and 7th lord Saturn loss of

>

> public life.

>

> 5th lord mars badly placed in 12th therefrom.

>

> Combustion of 8th lord Saturn also indicates

>

> loss of crops due to erratic monsoon.

>

> With regards,

>

> Mrutyunjay Tripathy

> , Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Friend,

> > Thank you for your response but this is not my querry,just go through the

querry categorically and reply to it please.

> > With best wishes,

> > P K Tripathy.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

> >

> > Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:16:04 AM

> > Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

> >

> >

> > Dear Friend,

> > This issue is a long and continued debate as kalsarpayoga observed and felt

in Indian Chart.the question however remains how true is the impact of nodes on

the country.it is only that we thing to be religion of rahu is different from

Ketu.If rahu is north node ketu is south node.

> > If rahu represents mercury sign wise,ketu represents jupiter and so we bear

many things under pressure as we know what is undevided Indai.Please read

various articles particulalry Astrology of Gaytri Vasu Dev in Annual numbers

from 2004 onwards.

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > (For all counseling services)

> >

> >

> > --- On Mon, 9/28/09, pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ > wrote:

> >

> > pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ >

> > Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

> >

> > Monday, September 28, 2009, 10:31 AM

> >

> >

> >

> > To all learned/experienced members,

> >

> > What are affects and remidies of KS yoga in IndianIndipendence chart, the

details of affect may be analysed since the day of selection of Jinna and Nehru

by Mahatma Gandhi.

> >

> > P K Tripathy,

> > Vedic Scientiest.

> >

> >

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Sir,

I agree with you if we go by toady's media account our country having a

chart(static 'coz it has time of occurence) shall hav elot of inputs .These

inputs in now way corrleate to KSY or KAY.

Jyotish is a dynamic way of upadating events and happening through our mundane

Astrology,a vast subject in which evry jyotish would like reveal and regale as

the planets get involved in to shape up the progress.if green revolution what

Great Scientist Shri Swaminathan has brought into country or Prof Kurien who

brought operation flood and great former presesident with his humble exposure to

space tried to take the technology to Indians reach to convey about availabilty

of water resources in moon.Like this not one to count.There are many in various

filds.

we can not certainly not as Astrologers to think that our country ;coz KSY has

only desperateand destined suffer 'coz threat to security,peace or war liek

situations.

Survival of the fittest of the Darwin might have been forgotten but yet relevent

so we continue to bring evolutionary changes even through great wisdom of

jyotish dleivered in 000 of years back.It has still treasure.we have to know and

learn through various sources.From Kashmir to kanyakumary grear

seers,Acaryas,heads of peethas have made effort to explore vedas and bring

relevence of jyotish in our life.This will live long and it's followeres will

increase along all other evolutions.This is our faith and resolve today

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

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--- On Thu, 10/1/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote:

 

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Thursday, October 1, 2009, 1:47 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear respected members,

 

India is country of divergent people spaning a few thousand klms on either

directions, with cultures of their own.

 

A static planetory position is grossly inadequate to study or predict

effectively. 

 

Study of climates, geological events, countries, markets etc come in the perview

of Mundane Astrology.

 

The prime reqirement for " study " is a history of planetary motions and not one

days's chart.

 

For example :

It is given

If mars becomes retrograde in the 7th or 8th or 9th star from the star it comes

out of maudya, it is termed as " Ushna " and people who live with fire shall

suffer.

 

similarly if the vakra starts in the 10, 11, 12 nakshtra , it is termed

" ashwamukh " , it shall corrupt rasas (tastes), lack of  rains, illness shall be

felt.

   

Mars came out of Maudya on 09-Feb-2009 in the star of Utrashada And shall start

retro motion on 21-Dec-2009 in Aslesha star ie: 16nth star from Utrashada.

 

The above is from Brihat samhita which is taken from Vashishta Samhitha.

 

It is very clear what kind of information is neccessary to study such events.

Apart from other tools such Koorma Chakras etc are also emplyoed.

Narapathijayacharya  a text, it claims, without studying, if a king attempts to

govern shall perish. A book written almost 1100 years extols kerala jyotish in

its starting verse. 

 

In short, without learning such texts and willing to sit & spend hours, we

cannot infer any concrete matters from a static chart.

 

Yesterday, A boat tragedy occured at Kumili trourist center, Idukki almost 40

persons have died.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy 

     

 

  

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

 

Thursday, October 1, 2009 6:05:46 AM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

 

Dear Tripathy ji,

Here the intention is to comprehensively find whether KSY has any impact on the

sun continent?If so how KSY is relvent if mundane studies?

In the horoscope of nation,we are considering major events like homogenity of

nations,political maturity,upheavals if any,wars if any threatening the peace

and growth and development.

From 1947 till date in our country of 1 billion population,the resources have

been generated and used for public cause.

liteeracy rate has gone up from 18% to 29% till last census in 2006.Both

countries share peace on boarders .Development is the concern for both Pakistan

and India.peoplewants trade and each country thinks the need of the other.

As far as language,religion. in equity of economy of bothe countries,differenc e

in geographical siyuations,These are not made and nature creations.Astrology in

mundane aspects anlyses various parameter and studies the impact from time to

time'

Relevance of KSY on nations charts and taking incidents of some violence,killing

of the people ,boarder tensions etc is not holistic way of research.

From 1947 on wards both countries tried to find the need to come closer and and

do trade,exchange commodities and people to be in social contacts.marraiges to

happen with all kind of differences.

In such a background,how KSY is singled out,In fact about KSY people have their

own views.Astrologers opine and recently in nOv 2008 in EST,Prof Palniappan has

expressed very briefly about KSY.

Application for study of the Nations probably has no objectivity. her factors

like ethnicity,geogarphy .reosurces available and happiness Index etc are mor

matters of concern

In case if we want to find how dasa of of the two different nations contributed

to the growth and the time along with the will of people and their future

People of kashmir recently demonstrated that they want to have unified

identification and fair distribution of resources to meet their needs.

How rulers think and talk the political maturity are processes that differ from

time to time impinging on growth of bothe nations on either side of the

International baorders.

this talf of Independence of nations,Astrologica l rlevance and in particulalr

highlighting KSY for me has no relevance.

In fact KSY itself to link with mundane aspects itself need better appreciation.

 

Vattem Krishnan

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--- On Wed, 9/30/09, Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ > wrote:

 

Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ >

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 9:13 AM

 

 

 

Gentleman,

 

So far as my knowledge is concerned,for last 3 decades(excluding post BVR

publication disputes for few years) neither late Dr.BV Raman,present editor

Gayatri Devi Vasudev,even lead astrologer Mr K N Rao,IAAS, Mr T.N Seshan,and

many otthers have published the KSY affect on IIC as detailed in thequerry.

However, if you have such articles exactly meeting to the querry please let me

know.Pl. see that the articles must be meeting to the querry.

 

P.K.Tripathy

Vedic Scientiest.

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:46:37 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

 

 

pkt,

 

WELL b v rAMAN JI has in numerous anual numbers of the astrological magazine

covered this area and he has said KSY has dampened the yogas of UNO, INDIAN, PAK

etc as they suck the enrgy of the said bodies. for more read archives of AM.

 

prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:22:26 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear Friend,

Thank you for your response but this is not my querry,just go through the querry

categorically and reply to it please.

With best wishes,

P K Tripathy.

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

 

Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:16:04 AM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear Friend,

This issue is a long and continued debate as kalsarpayoga observed and felt in

Indian Chart.the question however remains how true is the impact of nodes on the

country.it is only that we thing to be religion of rahu is different from

Ketu.If rahu is north node ketu is south node.

If rahu represents mercury sign wise,ketu represents jupiter and so we bear many

things under pressure as we know what is undevided Indai.Please read various

articles particulalry Astrology of Gaytri Vasu Dev in Annual numbers from 2004

onwards.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

--- On Mon, 9/28/09, pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ > wrote:

 

pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ >

Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Monday, September 28, 2009, 10:31 AM

 

To all learned/experienced members,

 

What are affects and remidies of KS yoga in IndianIndipendence chart, the

details of affect may be analysed since the day of selection of Jinna and Nehru

by Mahatma Gandhi.

 

P K Tripathy,

Vedic Scientiest.

 

 

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Dear Sir,

This is well debated issue and even in new Astrological Magazine Indian

Independent chart was anlysed from the point of debilitated jupiter and also

Mangal's entry into cnacer again a debilitated sign where mangal is expected to

be ther till jan 2010.

Infact keeping view global recession and also unexpected and unholy alliances in

Pakistan involving stir of judiciary ,events were analysed and explained.

It is really that new AM could predict many events what hashappened in jet

Airways and Air Inidia about pilot's strike.All these predictions have come out

of Indian Independent chart.There is lot we can find by the end of Dec2009.so

Astrological base on the basis of proper understanding Jyotish vidya has tood to

the test of time.we as profound belivers go event by evnt and try to find how

the Astrological bae guides one and all.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

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--- On Wed, 9/30/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

 

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 8:16 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

pkt,

 

WELL b v rAMAN JI has in numerous anual numbers of the astrological magazine

covered this area and he has said KSY has dampened the yogas of UNO, INDIAN, PAK

etc as they suck the enrgy of the said bodies. for more read archives of AM.

 

prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ >

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:22:26 PM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear Friend,

Thank you for your response but this is not my querry,just go through the querry

categorically and reply to it please.

With best wishes,

P K Tripathy.

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

 

Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:16:04 AM

Re: Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Dear Friend,

This issue is a long and continued debate as kalsarpayoga observed and felt in

Indian Chart.the question however remains how true is the impact of nodes on the

country.it is only that we thing to be religion of rahu is different from

Ketu.If rahu is north node ketu is south node.

If rahu represents mercury sign wise,ketu represents jupiter and so we bear many

things under pressure as we know what is undevided Indai.Please read various

articles particulalry Astrology of Gaytri Vasu Dev in Annual numbers from 2004

onwards.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

--- On Mon, 9/28/09, pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ > wrote:

 

pktripathy89 <pktripathy89@ >

Indian indipendent chart-Kala Sharpa Yoga.

 

Monday, September 28, 2009, 10:31 AM

 

To all learned/experienced members,

 

What are affects and remidies of KS yoga in IndianIndipendence chart, the

details of affect may be analysed since the day of selection of Jinna and Nehru

by Mahatma Gandhi.

 

P K Tripathy,

Vedic Scientiest.

 

 

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