bad effects due to vehicles - Jatakaparijatha - Real charts required

[Guest guest]

Dear Members,

 

I an bringing to your notice a verse from Jataka parijatha.

 

I wonder how the combination of Lagna lord - a natural benefic and other

benefics in the Lagna , 9th or 10th shall bring miseries and that too due to

Vehicles an attribute of Venus & 4th house.

 

 

" dharmakarmavilagnasthastungopagashubhagrahH

lagnaadhipena saMdrishtaa yaanaanthe duHkhamaanuyaal " .

 

The translation is like this

 

if the lagna , 9 & 10th has Ucha bala and have benefic planets aspected by lagna

lord, there will be miseries due to vehicles.

The signs having Ucha bala could very well mean,

1)These signs having planets in exaltation

2)These are exaltation signs of any planets and have benefics aspected by Lagna

lord

3) The lords of Lagna, 9th or 10th should have Ucha bala (very near to deep

exaltation longitude), These signs should have benefic planets who should be

aspected by lagna lord.

 

I would like the members to ponder over this and present any horoscopes which

satifies the above and confirms or contradicts to the effect.

 

I feel there could be printing mistake in the verse.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri Suresh Ji,

Namskarams.A Good reference  from jatakaparijata.Even best pilots some times

with benifics influence may suddenly get into fatalities.

When we say Dharma Karma Vilagna,we are refering to 9th and 10th

house.Importance of 10th being a kendra(and 2nd to 9th).when benifics are

involved with 10th house(as 2nd from 9th) the possibility of fatalities due to

benifics may arise.

Some how is it that these natives try to make livelihood out of vehicles which

at times due to fatalities even benifics impart vilagna results?

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

 

--- On Sun, 10/4/09, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag wrote:

 

 

Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag

bad effects due to vehicles - Jatakaparijatha - Real charts

required

 

Sunday, October 4, 2009, 4:16 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Members,

 

I an bringing to your notice a verse from Jataka parijatha.

 

I wonder how the combination of Lagna lord - a natural benefic and other

benefics in the Lagna , 9th or 10th shall bring miseries and that too due to

Vehicles an attribute of Venus & 4th house.

 

" dharmakarmavilagna sthastungopagash ubhagrahH

lagnaadhipena saMdrishtaa yaanaanthe duHkhamaanuyaal " .

 

The translation is like this

 

if the lagna , 9 & 10th has Ucha bala and have benefic planets aspected by lagna

lord, there will be miseries due to vehicles.

The signs having Ucha bala could very well mean,

1)These signs having planets in exaltation

2)These are exaltation signs of any planets and have benefics aspected by Lagna

lord

3) The lords of Lagna, 9th or 10th should have Ucha bala (very near to deep

exaltation longitude), These signs should have benefic planets who should be

aspected by lagna lord.

 

I would like the members to ponder over this and present any horoscopes which

satifies the above and confirms or contradicts to the effect.

 

I feel there could be printing mistake in the verse.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Krishna Ji,

 

Thanks for your thoughts.  Any planet in the 2nd of a sign is considered to

" chadaka " for that sign. if we apply the same theory as you have implied, the

planet in the 10th becomes a " chadaka " for 9th house and not 4th house.

 

However a benefic planet in the 10th, will have a direct aspect on the 4th. It

should give good results only. This is what is what is surprising. A benefic

planet in the 9th should enhance, luck, grace of ancestors, grace of Guru

(mentor), grace of God etc. How can such a person have miseries due to Vehicles?

should it not protect him?

 

OR is the theory 10th is the Ashta rasi of 4th. So benefics in Astha of 4th

(think sun rise & sun set) give miseries attributed to 4th house & planets

rising in the 4th house (in the 4th house) confer benefic effects.

 

Even the above doesn't seem fully logical because, no where in the verse malefic

planets are mentioned to provide miseries and more importantly drishti of

benefic planets to the 4th house seems to ignored.

 

The verse seems to be more logical if the word is split as

" dharmakarmavilagnasthastuMgopagashubhagrahaH "  

into

" dharmakarmavilagnastha asthuMgopaga shubhagrahaH "

 

meaning benefic planets in DEBILATION in the lagna, 9th or /and 10th aspected by

lagna lord (as implied by the second line), in which case, the verse becomes

more logicaly correct.

 

This is what I would like to confirm from real experiences.

 

Once again than you for the input. Any further thoughts on this are most welcome

from all, Particularly if they have seen similar verses in any other classical

texts.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

 

 

   

 

  

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

 

Sunday, October 4, 2009 1:59:21 PM

Re: bad effects due to vehicles - Jatakaparijatha - Real charts

required

 

 

Dear Shri Suresh Ji,

Namskarams.A Good reference  from jatakaparijata. Even best pilots some times

with benifics influence may suddenly get into fatalities.

When we say Dharma Karma Vilagna,we are refering to 9th and 10th

house.Importance of 10th being a kendra(and 2nd to 9th).when benifics are

involved with 10th house(as 2nd from 9th) the possibility of fatalities due to

benifics may arise.

Some how is it that these natives try to make livelihood out of vehicles which

at times due to fatalities even benifics impart vilagna results?

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

 

--- On Sun, 10/4/09, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

 

Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ >

bad effects due to vehicles - Jatakaparijatha - Real charts

required

 

Sunday, October 4, 2009, 4:16 AM

 

 

 

Dear Members,

 

I an bringing to your notice a verse from Jataka parijatha.

 

I wonder how the combination of Lagna lord - a natural benefic and other

benefics in the Lagna , 9th or 10th shall bring miseries and that too due to

Vehicles an attribute of Venus & 4th house.

 

" dharmakarmavilagna sthastungopagash ubhagrahH

lagnaadhipena saMdrishtaa yaanaanthe duHkhamaanuyaal " .

 

The translation is like this

 

if the lagna , 9 & 10th has Ucha bala and have benefic planets aspected by lagna

lord, there will be miseries due to vehicles.

The signs having Ucha bala could very well mean,

1)These signs having planets in exaltation

2)These are exaltation signs of any planets and have benefics aspected by Lagna

lord

3) The lords of Lagna, 9th or 10th should have Ucha bala (very near to deep

exaltation longitude), These signs should have benefic planets who should be

aspected by lagna lord.

 

I would like the members to ponder over this and present any horoscopes which

satifies the above and confirms or contradicts to the effect.

 

I feel there could be printing mistake in the verse.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri Suresh Ji,

Probably you do not mind my extending topic as my own problems with

vehicles/houses arising out of 4th house are ebing cited however relevant might

be with jataka parijata verses.

The question that arise from the verses of jatakaparijatha about bad effects to

the " owner " or the one having benifics and aspecting and gets benifits out of

vehicles.

Also the question is bad effects arising out of such sitaution.does mean only

impediments due to break down ,repairs or grevious injuries or death due to

vehicles.

In my case I have jupiter in 10th from moon.My moos certainly weak though it is

full moon in sign makara.

iam a known bad driver of car and made accidents in the course of my driving

experiences when I switched over to 4 wheelers.Fortunately I got escaped from

hurting any except hurting my own car in 1998.

ofcoursed I injured my better half on atwo wheeler and esacped very major

accident during rahu dasa.Death easpaed couple of time in a second's time.How I

escaped in two such Almighty only can explain.I think at that time it was dasa

of jupiter-jupiter once and another occassion it was jupiter-moon.In both

occassion not even fracture to my body parts.

So I avoid driving to the minimum and depend mostly on my other family

mebers.Occassionally these days for short drives I venture on two

wheeler.Ofcourse I like to drive cautious and be vigilant

Unfortunately all vehicles cause lot of running problems in satrts or sudden

break down making me sweat out lot.

Like wise in the case of my own house too Iam never never lucky as the money

invested always on loss and some litigation whcih even today Iam fighting in

courts to recover my money invested for own house.My 4th from moon is of aries

and from lagna it is aries,5th house..lord of aries is in 6th with Rahu(2nd to

5th).other wise from lagna it happens to be6th.

If we take litterally the concept of " dharma karmadhi vilagna " malefics in any

case understandably give problems.But benifics giving problems is to some

dosha.Normally 9th being a kona even malefics too give benific results.only

issue how ever is aspect of malefics on 9th.Being Kendra and benific getting

posited will not give results properly in case of vehicle as it is 7th from 4th

and 2nd from 9th.

4th known to be house for sukha implies vahana for the native from lagna point

of view.From there 7th is 10th and is also maraka.like wise 12th to 4th is 3rd

andfrom 9th 3rd is 7th.How 9th and 10th having benifics,pose problems and

miseries is the point to ponder over.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

 

--- On Sun, 10/4/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote:

 

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag

Re: bad effects due to vehicles - Jatakaparijatha - Real charts

required

 

Sunday, October 4, 2009, 5:03 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Krishna Ji,

 

Thanks for your thoughts.  Any planet in the 2nd of a sign is considered to

" chadaka " for that sign. if we apply the same theory as you have implied, the

planet in the 10th becomes a " chadaka " for 9th house and not 4th house.

 

However a benefic planet in the 10th, will have a direct aspect on the 4th. It

should give good results only. This is what is what is surprising. A benefic

planet in the 9th should enhance, luck, grace of ancestors, grace of Guru

(mentor), grace of God etc. How can such a person have miseries due to Vehicles?

should it not protect him?

 

OR is the theory 10th is the Ashta rasi of 4th. So benefics in Astha of 4th

(think sun rise & sun set) give miseries attributed to 4th house & planets

rising in the 4th house (in the 4th house) confer benefic effects.

 

Even the above doesn't seem fully logical because, no where in the verse malefic

planets are mentioned to provide miseries and more importantly drishti of

benefic planets to the 4th house seems to ignored.

 

The verse seems to be more logical if the word is split as

" dharmakarmavilagna sthastuMgopagash ubhagrahaH "  

into

" dharmakarmavilagna stha asthuMgopaga shubhagrahaH "

 

meaning benefic planets in DEBILATION in the lagna, 9th or /and 10th aspected by

lagna lord (as implied by the second line), in which case, the verse becomes

more logicaly correct.

 

This is what I would like to confirm from real experiences.

 

Once again than you for the input. Any further thoughts on this are most welcome

from all, Particularly if they have seen similar verses in any other classical

texts.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

 

   

 

  

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

 

Sunday, October 4, 2009 1:59:21 PM

Re: bad effects due to vehicles - Jatakaparijatha - Real charts

required

 

 

Dear Shri Suresh Ji,

Namskarams.A Good reference  from jatakaparijata. Even best pilots some times

with benifics influence may suddenly get into fatalities.

When we say Dharma Karma Vilagna,we are refering to 9th and 10th

house.Importance of 10th being a kendra(and 2nd to 9th).when benifics are

involved with 10th house(as 2nd from 9th) the possibility of fatalities due to

benifics may arise.

Some how is it that these natives try to make livelihood out of vehicles which

at times due to fatalities even benifics impart vilagna results?

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

 

--- On Sun, 10/4/09, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

 

Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ >

bad effects due to vehicles - Jatakaparijatha - Real charts

required

 

Sunday, October 4, 2009, 4:16 AM

 

 

 

Dear Members,

 

I an bringing to your notice a verse from Jataka parijatha.

 

I wonder how the combination of Lagna lord - a natural benefic and other

benefics in the Lagna , 9th or 10th shall bring miseries and that too due to

Vehicles an attribute of Venus & 4th house.

 

" dharmakarmavilagna sthastungopagash ubhagrahH

lagnaadhipena saMdrishtaa yaanaanthe duHkhamaanuyaal " .

 

The translation is like this

 

if the lagna , 9 & 10th has Ucha bala and have benefic planets aspected by lagna

lord, there will be miseries due to vehicles.

The signs having Ucha bala could very well mean,

1)These signs having planets in exaltation

2)These are exaltation signs of any planets and have benefics aspected by Lagna

lord

3) The lords of Lagna, 9th or 10th should have Ucha bala (very near to deep

exaltation longitude), These signs should have benefic planets who should be

aspected by lagna lord.

 

I would like the members to ponder over this and present any horoscopes which

satifies the above and confirms or contradicts to the effect.

 

I feel there could be printing mistake in the verse.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Krishna ji, Suresh ji

 

may be we must study a few versions of Jataka parijata, it is possible there is

a printing/editing mistake here. and is giving contrary meanings

 

at this rate one having a good 10th house has bad vehicles, a GOOD 3rd house can

give bad finances, spiritual, results, a good lagna will give a bad spouse if

ashta stae is applied to them or maraka to each bhava that is Bhavat Bhava

 

I think Suresh ji u r using v subramanya shastry works? I hope krishna ji or

arjun ji can find the telugu versions of this and how the slokas are placed

there the construction of the sandhis and possible meanings.

 

and if anyone has a Hindi-sanskrit view of them it is also welcome

 

Usha & shashi r fakes of all pouplar works can be B suryana rao or v subramanya

shastry or any old astrologers whos books copy right has expired r being misused

as they don't provide sanskrit slokas, just the english version

 

a case in point will be Brihat Jataka of Usha and shashi is verbattim of B

suryana rao's so is sarvartha chintamani

[the titles, examples of BSR in his work are reproduced as it is by them, they

cud have at leaste deleted lines that don;t belong to their time]

 

prashant

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag

 

Sun, October 4, 2009 1:46:00 PM

bad effects due to vehicles - Jatakaparijatha - Real charts

required

 

 

Dear Members,

 

I an bringing to your notice a verse from Jataka parijatha.

 

I wonder how the combination of Lagna lord - a natural benefic and other

benefics in the Lagna , 9th or 10th shall bring miseries and that too due to

Vehicles an attribute of Venus & 4th house.

 

" dharmakarmavilagna sthastungopagash ubhagrahH

lagnaadhipena saMdrishtaa yaanaanthe duHkhamaanuyaal " .

 

The translation is like this

 

if the lagna , 9 & 10th has Ucha bala and have benefic planets aspected by lagna

lord, there will be miseries due to vehicles.

The signs having Ucha bala could very well mean,

1)These signs having planets in exaltation

2)These are exaltation signs of any planets and have benefics aspected by Lagna

lord

3) The lords of Lagna, 9th or 10th should have Ucha bala (very near to deep

exaltation longitude), These signs should have benefic planets who should be

aspected by lagna lord.

 

I would like the members to ponder over this and present any horoscopes which

satifies the above and confirms or contradicts to the effect.

 

I feel there could be printing mistake in the verse.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Prashant Ji,

 

The version of Jataka Parijatham I am having is with malayalm lipi translated by

Brahmashree N.Purushothaman Potti. published 81 years back.

 

I have only the first part of V.Subramanya Shatri's book - Sanskrit -English.

The part which contains this verse (chapter 12 - verse 111) is lost. So I can't

verify it. The verse could be in Saravali also.

 

 I would be happy if any one could quote the verse from the book written /

published by other authors or any similar verse they come across in other

classical books.

 

As per the current translation, I don't understand why a benefic planet should

give miseries when it is in the Kendra / trikona of 4th house, miseries from

vehicles.  

 

Regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

 

Sunday, October 4, 2009 4:46:15 PM

Re: bad effects due to vehicles - Jatakaparijatha - Real charts

required

 

 

Dear Krishna ji, Suresh ji

 

may be we must study a few versions of Jataka parijata, it is possible there is

a printing/editing mistake here. and is giving contrary meanings

 

at this rate one having a good 10th house has bad vehicles, a GOOD 3rd house can

give bad finances, spiritual, results, a good lagna will give a bad spouse if

ashta stae is applied to them or maraka to each bhava that is Bhavat Bhava

 

I think Suresh ji u r using v subramanya shastry works? I hope krishna ji or

arjun ji can find the telugu versions of this and how the slokas are placed

there the construction of the sandhis and possible meanings.

 

and if anyone has a Hindi-sanskrit view of them it is also welcome

 

Usha & shashi r fakes of all pouplar works can be B suryana rao or v subramanya

shastry or any old astrologers whos books copy right has expired r being misused

as they don't provide sanskrit slokas, just the english version

 

a case in point will be Brihat Jataka of Usha and shashi is verbattim of B

suryana rao's so is sarvartha chintamani

[the titles, examples of BSR in his work are reproduced as it is by them, they

cud have at leaste deleted lines that don;t belong to their time]

 

prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ >

 

Sun, October 4, 2009 1:46:00 PM

bad effects due to vehicles - Jatakaparijatha - Real charts

required

 

Dear Members,

 

I an bringing to your notice a verse from Jataka parijatha.

 

I wonder how the combination of Lagna lord - a natural benefic and other

benefics in the Lagna , 9th or 10th shall bring miseries and that too due to

Vehicles an attribute of Venus & 4th house.

 

" dharmakarmavilagna sthastungopagash ubhagrahH

lagnaadhipena saMdrishtaa yaanaanthe duHkhamaanuyaal " .

 

The translation is like this

 

if the lagna , 9 & 10th has Ucha bala and have benefic planets aspected by lagna

lord, there will be miseries due to vehicles.

The signs having Ucha bala could very well mean,

1)These signs having planets in exaltation

2)These are exaltation signs of any planets and have benefics aspected by Lagna

lord

3) The lords of Lagna, 9th or 10th should have Ucha bala (very near to deep

exaltation longitude), These signs should have benefic planets who should be

aspected by lagna lord.

 

I would like the members to ponder over this and present any horoscopes which

satifies the above and confirms or contradicts to the effect.

 

I feel there could be printing mistake in the verse.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Krishna Ji,

 

Sir, you are most welcome.

 

Your case seems to in perfect situation as what I had mentioned earlier - that

benefic should protect the native if they are aspecting the 4th from miseries.

In this case, there is absolute doubt that you have excaped every time by the

grace of god (jupiter?).

 

Rahu in the 6th gives rise to litigations. Though JP and some other classicals

say the Rahu in the 6th (being Upachaya) protects the person, this happens

only if he has benefic associations. I have seens many horoscopes of my clients

with rahu in the 6th and almost all have similar issues. So bhoomi karaka Mars

and also 4th lord from moon being with Rahu, naturaly gives problems. Further,

Vahana Karaka Venus with Sun &   Saturn in Karkata- satru rasi.

 

So this verse does not apply in your case. But Jupiter aspecting the 4th of moon

and the grace of Mercury + Jupiter (both in mutual trikona), there is no doubt

that grace of god has protected you.

 

//ofcoursed I injured my better half on atwo wheeler // Papamadhya sthity of 7th

house from lagna & again malefics in the 7th of moon? But she escaped major

problems? due to mercury being in own house aspected by Jupiter - you took good

care of your wife no doubt.

 

//How 9th and 10th having benifics, pose problems and miseries is the point to

ponder over.//

 

This is exactly what I am trying to find or any error in the printing, coying ,

translation of the book.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

 

Sunday, October 4, 2009 3:31:58 PM

Re: bad effects due to vehicles - Jatakaparijatha - Real charts

required

 

 

Dear Shri Suresh Ji,

Probably you do not mind my extending topic as my own problems with

vehicles/houses arising out of 4th house are ebing cited however relevant might

be with jataka parijata verses.

The question that arise from the verses of jatakaparijatha about bad effects to

the " owner " or the one having benifics and aspecting and gets benifits out of

vehicles.

Also the question is bad effects arising out of such sitaution.does mean only

impediments due to break down ,repairs or grevious injuries or death due to

vehicles.

In my case I have jupiter in 10th from moon.My moos certainly weak though it is

full moon in sign makara.

iam a known bad driver of car and made accidents in the course of my driving

experiences when I switched over to 4 wheelers.Fortunatel y I got escaped from

hurting any except hurting my own car in 1998.

ofcoursed I injured my better half on atwo wheeler and esacped very major

accident during rahu dasa.Death easpaed couple of time in a second's time.How I

escaped in two such Almighty only can explain.I think at that time it was dasa

of jupiter-jupiter once and another occassion it was jupiter-moon. In both

occassion not even fracture to my body parts.

So I avoid driving to the minimum and depend mostly on my other family

mebers.Occassionall y these days for short drives I venture on two

wheeler.Ofcourse I like to drive cautious and be vigilant

Unfortunately all vehicles cause lot of running problems in satrts or sudden

break down making me sweat out lot.

Like wise in the case of my own house too Iam never never lucky as the money

invested always on loss and some litigation whcih even today Iam fighting in

courts to recover my money invested for own house.My 4th from moon is of aries

and from lagna it is aries,5th house..lord of aries is in 6th with Rahu(2nd to

5th).other wise from lagna it happens to be6th.

If we take litterally the concept of " dharma karmadhi vilagna " malefics in any

case understandably give problems.But benifics giving problems is to some

dosha.Normally 9th being a kona even malefics too give benific results.only

issue how ever is aspect of malefics on 9th.Being Kendra and benific getting

posited will not give results properly in case of vehicle as it is 7th from 4th

and 2nd from 9th.

4th known to be house for sukha implies vahana for the native from lagna point

of view.From there 7th is 10th and is also maraka.like wise 12th to 4th is 3rd

andfrom 9th 3rd is 7th.How 9th and 10th having benifics,pose problems and

miseries is the point to ponder over.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

 

--- On Sun, 10/4/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

Re: bad effects due to vehicles - Jatakaparijatha - Real charts

required

 

Sunday, October 4, 2009, 5:03 AM

 

 

 

Dear Krishna Ji,

 

Thanks for your thoughts.  Any planet in the 2nd of a sign is considered to

" chadaka " for that sign. if we apply the same theory as you have implied, the

planet in the 10th becomes a " chadaka " for 9th house and not 4th house.

 

However a benefic planet in the 10th, will have a direct aspect on the 4th. It

should give good results only. This is what is what is surprising. A benefic

planet in the 9th should enhance, luck, grace of ancestors, grace of Guru

(mentor), grace of God etc. How can such a person have miseries due to Vehicles?

should it not protect him?

 

OR is the theory 10th is the Ashta rasi of 4th. So benefics in Astha of 4th

(think sun rise & sun set) give miseries attributed to 4th house & planets

rising in the 4th house (in the 4th house) confer benefic effects.

 

Even the above doesn't seem fully logical because, no where in the verse malefic

planets are mentioned to provide miseries and more importantly drishti of

benefic planets to the 4th house seems to ignored.

 

The verse seems to be more logical if the word is split as

" dharmakarmavilagna sthastuMgopagash ubhagrahaH "  

into

" dharmakarmavilagna stha asthuMgopaga shubhagrahaH "

 

meaning benefic planets in DEBILATION in the lagna, 9th or /and 10th aspected by

lagna lord (as implied by the second line), in which case, the verse becomes

more logicaly correct.

 

This is what I would like to confirm from real experiences.

 

Once again than you for the input. Any further thoughts on this are most welcome

from all, Particularly if they have seen similar verses in any other classical

texts.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

 

   

 

  

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

 

Sunday, October 4, 2009 1:59:21 PM

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Dear Shri Suresh Ji,

Namskarams.A Good reference  from jatakaparijata. Even best pilots some times

with benifics influence may suddenly get into fatalities.

When we say Dharma Karma Vilagna,we are refering to 9th and 10th

house.Importance of 10th being a kendra(and 2nd to 9th).when benifics are

involved with 10th house(as 2nd from 9th) the possibility of fatalities due to

benifics may arise.

Some how is it that these natives try to make livelihood out of vehicles which

at times due to fatalities even benifics impart vilagna results?

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

 

--- On Sun, 10/4/09, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

 

Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ >

bad effects due to vehicles - Jatakaparijatha - Real charts

required

 

Sunday, October 4, 2009, 4:16 AM

 

 

 

Dear Members,

 

I an bringing to your notice a verse from Jataka parijatha.

 

I wonder how the combination of Lagna lord - a natural benefic and other

benefics in the Lagna , 9th or 10th shall bring miseries and that too due to

Vehicles an attribute of Venus & 4th house.

 

" dharmakarmavilagna sthastungopagash ubhagrahH

lagnaadhipena saMdrishtaa yaanaanthe duHkhamaanuyaal " .

 

The translation is like this

 

if the lagna , 9 & 10th has Ucha bala and have benefic planets aspected by lagna

lord, there will be miseries due to vehicles.

The signs having Ucha bala could very well mean,

1)These signs having planets in exaltation

2)These are exaltation signs of any planets and have benefics aspected by Lagna

lord

3) The lords of Lagna, 9th or 10th should have Ucha bala (very near to deep

exaltation longitude), These signs should have benefic planets who should be

aspected by lagna lord.

 

I would like the members to ponder over this and present any horoscopes which

satifies the above and confirms or contradicts to the effect.

 

I feel there could be printing mistake in the verse.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Suresh ji, I have VBS book u said and find the notes different and in a

+ve manner

 

i bought the 3rd volune in Vedanta Book house Blr it started coming in 3 volumes

in the past 25 yrs i got the 1st 2 in ramans placein 1986 and searched for the

3rd vol since

 

i can scan and send u that page if u wish, or if u want to buy the book it is

available there.

 

details r as here

 

Sri Vedantha Book house

Near Uma Talkies, chamraraja pet

BLR 560018

TEL 26507590

MAIL VEDANTABOOKS

 

INFO COPIED FROM the sticker on the book

rest u can get by calling them I guess.

 

been there whever i go to Blr

 

Krishnia chetty & sons chickpet r the publishers

 

--------------------------

 

for the record sloka 111 gives this info

 

If the LORDS of the 4th, 9th, 10th and 2nd be related to the lagna in some

wayand have strenght, they will in their several Dasa periods respectively lead

to the acquisition of of Kingdom, good fortune, accession of wealth and property

 

 

it doesnt start with Dharma karma Vilagna but

 

Chaturtha Dharmanya dharmaadha....

 

I assume u feel the sloka u had quoted was lost from VBS works? or is not

present in what u have now?

 

best wishes

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag

 

Sun, October 4, 2009 5:19:15 PM

Re: bad effects due to vehicles - Jatakaparijatha - Real charts

required

 

 

Dear Prashant Ji,

 

The version of Jataka Parijatham I am having is with malayalm lipi translated by

Brahmashree N.Purushothaman Potti. published 81 years back.

 

I have only the first part of V.Subramanya Shatri's book - Sanskrit -English.

The part which contains this verse (chapter 12 - verse 111) is lost. So I can't

verify it. The verse could be in Saravali also.

 

I would be happy if any one could quote the verse from the book written /

published by other authors or any similar verse they come across in other

classical books.

 

As per the current translation, I don't understand why a benefic planet should

give miseries when it is in the Kendra / trikona of 4th house, miseries from

vehicles.

 

Regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

Sunday, October 4, 2009 4:46:15 PM

Re: bad effects due to vehicles - Jatakaparijatha - Real charts

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Dear Krishna ji, Suresh ji

 

may be we must study a few versions of Jataka parijata, it is possible there is

a printing/editing mistake here. and is giving contrary meanings

 

at this rate one having a good 10th house has bad vehicles, a GOOD 3rd house can

give bad finances, spiritual, results, a good lagna will give a bad spouse if

ashta stae is applied to them or maraka to each bhava that is Bhavat Bhava

 

I think Suresh ji u r using v subramanya shastry works? I hope krishna ji or

arjun ji can find the telugu versions of this and how the slokas are placed

there the construction of the sandhis and possible meanings.

 

and if anyone has a Hindi-sanskrit view of them it is also welcome

 

Usha & shashi r fakes of all pouplar works can be B suryana rao or v subramanya

shastry or any old astrologers whos books copy right has expired r being misused

as they don't provide sanskrit slokas, just the english version

 

a case in point will be Brihat Jataka of Usha and shashi is verbattim of B

suryana rao's so is sarvartha chintamani

[the titles, examples of BSR in his work are reproduced as it is by them, they

cud have at leaste deleted lines that don;t belong to their time]

 

prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ >

 

Sun, October 4, 2009 1:46:00 PM

bad effects due to vehicles - Jatakaparijatha - Real charts

required

 

Dear Members,

 

I an bringing to your notice a verse from Jataka parijatha.

 

I wonder how the combination of Lagna lord - a natural benefic and other

benefics in the Lagna , 9th or 10th shall bring miseries and that too due to

Vehicles an attribute of Venus & 4th house.

 

" dharmakarmavilagna sthastungopagash ubhagrahH

lagnaadhipena saMdrishtaa yaanaanthe duHkhamaanuyaal " .

 

The translation is like this

 

if the lagna , 9 & 10th has Ucha bala and have benefic planets aspected by lagna

lord, there will be miseries due to vehicles.

The signs having Ucha bala could very well mean,

1)These signs having planets in exaltation

2)These are exaltation signs of any planets and have benefics aspected by Lagna

lord

3) The lords of Lagna, 9th or 10th should have Ucha bala (very near to deep

exaltation longitude), These signs should have benefic planets who should be

aspected by lagna lord.

 

I would like the members to ponder over this and present any horoscopes which

satifies the above and confirms or contradicts to the effect.

 

I feel there could be printing mistake in the verse.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Prashant ji,

 

Thank you very much for the information.

 

The verse you have mentioned is given as no 108 in the book, i am having.  

" chaturthadharmaaya dhanaadhinaatha

vilagnasaMbandhabalaadhikaashchel

tadeeyapaake samupaiti raajyaM

krameNa laabhaM dhanalaabhamarthaM "

 

So the verse I had mentioned should be 2 or 3 verses down in the book you are

having.

 

 

I have lost the 2nd volume of V.Subramanya Shatri's book, which should have the

verse. The 1st volume is only upto 10 chapters.

 

I shall contact them and try to get, if they have original Sakskrit-Sanskrit or

Sanskrit-English Versions.

 

Meanwhile pls check a few more verses below in your book.

 

Thanks once again.

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

 

Sunday, October 4, 2009 6:09:32 PM

Re: bad effects due to vehicles - Jatakaparijatha - Real charts

required

 

 

 

 

Dear Suresh ji, I have VBS book u said and find the notes different and in a +ve

manner

 

i bought the 3rd volune in Vedanta Book house Blr it started coming in 3 volumes

in the past 25 yrs i got the 1st 2 in ramans placein 1986 and searched for the

3rd vol since

 

i can scan and send u that page if u wish, or if u want to buy the book it is

available there.

 

details r as here

 

Sri Vedantha Book house

Near Uma Talkies, chamraraja pet

BLR 560018

TEL 26507590

MAIL VEDANTABOOKS@ VSNL.NET

 

INFO COPIED FROM the sticker on the book

rest u can get by calling them I guess.

 

been there whever i go to Blr

 

Krishnia chetty & sons chickpet r the publishers

 

------------ --------- -----

 

for the record sloka 111 gives this info

 

If the LORDS of the 4th, 9th, 10th and 2nd be related to the lagna in some

wayand have strenght, they will in their several Dasa periods respectively lead

to the acquisition of of Kingdom, good fortune, accession of wealth and property

 

it doesnt start with Dharma karma Vilagna but

 

Chaturtha Dharmanya dharmaadha.. ..

 

I assume u feel the sloka u had quoted was lost from VBS works? or is not

present in what u have now?

 

best wishes

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

Sun, October 4, 2009 5:19:15 PM

Re: bad effects due to vehicles - Jatakaparijatha - Real charts

required

 

Dear Prashant Ji,

 

The version of Jataka Parijatham I am having is with malayalm lipi translated by

Brahmashree N.Purushothaman Potti. published 81 years back.

 

I have only the first part of V.Subramanya Shatri's book - Sanskrit -English.

The part which contains this verse (chapter 12 - verse 111) is lost. So I can't

verify it. The verse could be in Saravali also.

 

I would be happy if any one could quote the verse from the book written /

published by other authors or any similar verse they come across in other

classical books.

 

As per the current translation, I don't understand why a benefic planet should

give miseries when it is in the Kendra / trikona of 4th house, miseries from

vehicles.

 

Regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

Sunday, October 4, 2009 4:46:15 PM

Re: bad effects due to vehicles - Jatakaparijatha - Real charts

required

 

Dear Krishna ji, Suresh ji

 

may be we must study a few versions of Jataka parijata, it is possible there is

a printing/editing mistake here. and is giving contrary meanings

 

at this rate one having a good 10th house has bad vehicles, a GOOD 3rd house can

give bad finances, spiritual, results, a good lagna will give a bad spouse if

ashta stae is applied to them or maraka to each bhava that is Bhavat Bhava

 

I think Suresh ji u r using v subramanya shastry works? I hope krishna ji or

arjun ji can find the telugu versions of this and how the slokas are placed

there the construction of the sandhis and possible meanings.

 

and if anyone has a Hindi-sanskrit view of them it is also welcome

 

Usha & shashi r fakes of all pouplar works can be B suryana rao or v subramanya

shastry or any old astrologers whos books copy right has expired r being misused

as they don't provide sanskrit slokas, just the english version

 

a case in point will be Brihat Jataka of Usha and shashi is verbattim of B

suryana rao's so is sarvartha chintamani

[the titles, examples of BSR in his work are reproduced as it is by them, they

cud have at leaste deleted lines that don;t belong to their time]

 

prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ >

 

Sun, October 4, 2009 1:46:00 PM

bad effects due to vehicles - Jatakaparijatha - Real charts

required

 

Dear Members,

 

I an bringing to your notice a verse from Jataka parijatha.

 

I wonder how the combination of Lagna lord - a natural benefic and other

benefics in the Lagna , 9th or 10th shall bring miseries and that too due to

Vehicles an attribute of Venus & 4th house.

 

" dharmakarmavilagna sthastungopagash ubhagrahH

lagnaadhipena saMdrishtaa yaanaanthe duHkhamaanuyaal " .

 

The translation is like this

 

if the lagna , 9 & 10th has Ucha bala and have benefic planets aspected by lagna

lord, there will be miseries due to vehicles.

The signs having Ucha bala could very well mean,

1)These signs having planets in exaltation

2)These are exaltation signs of any planets and have benefics aspected by Lagna

lord

3) The lords of Lagna, 9th or 10th should have Ucha bala (very near to deep

exaltation longitude), These signs should have benefic planets who should be

aspected by lagna lord.

 

I would like the members to ponder over this and present any horoscopes which

satifies the above and confirms or contradicts to the effect.

 

I feel there could be printing mistake in the verse.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy