Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Dear Vinay ji, suresh ji, vipat, all of u have added some useful info on the MOST UNPREDICTABLE STOCK MARKET with tons of money spent on research by the market analysts who have to work with market players mind games and also devious market men and enterprises and genuine investors here we can see that there must be always GAINERS ^ LOOSERS for the mkt to work at the moment some1 gains we do have a loser on the other side, all based on their Karmic, dharmic accounts wich are also settled by the Almighty. and we must be able to point out a pattern of likely gainers and loosers say some1s chart with a particular disposition in a particular phase say ppl with good periods involving 2,5,9,11 houses compared to 3.6.8.12 houses where 3, 6 can be risk takers and can be on either side 6 can be loosers ina competion if 6th house, lord r weak or aflicted in gochara. here is the chart of a winner TV S rao Berhampur, 31/8/1930, 01.08 Hrs he has won several pick the winner of the week contest in the Buisness line for any new stock a cash prize off 10k many times he has most of the BSE in original allotments and has swelled with bonuses in the past 60 yrs plus he had inherited these wealth due to adoption to a rich family hails for a v poor family as seen from the sani in 8th, but aspected by 8th lord Guru to the 8th house a v stingy man who never enyoed the riches is easily worth 300 crores lives in such stinking way doesnt spend money even on tooth pastes well foul smelling, no conveyances of his own, no worth while furnitire or settingas at home has a weakness for movies, film stars, item numbers etc lot a few children v early before 7 children were born to him and in this the eldest son died when 32 promising young talent when he asked his father for a investment in his business plans father refused said continue with ur job. in his dying time the son refused any money from his father for his treatment too wellthis money also happenedto be the daughter in-lawws fathers contribution who died on the spot inthe accident the son died 3 days later. Best wishes Prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 ________________________________ VJha <vinayjhaa16 Sat, October 17, 2009 9:33:05 PM Re: Apply Astrology on Stock Market To All, I was away for 3 months from all fora and had not read this thread till now. Many astrologers have put in good ideas, and Shenoy Ji has done a good job to organize the discussion properly by classifying the sub-topics to some extent. Shenoy Ji writes : <<< In practical trading daily movement of sensex is of little help unless the movement changes sharply on the mid-day, which takes any one by surprise and chances of loss is high.>>> This view is the majority view, ie, the view of those who have little or no practical experience in real time Day Trading. Day Traders in all stock exchanges of the world employ myriads of stochastic and other techniques to make small profits at almost each up and down. Experienced day traders prosper even in a recessing market, because the main principle of Day Trading is based not on overall loss or gain of index in a day or more, but on making profits at each small plus or minus change by means of selling when high and buying when low. There are 25 such chances per working day, and 15-20 of them may witness more than 0.25% difference in stock prices. Add them, and it makes 4-5% profit per day, even if there is no major bullish or bearish activity. If there are major changes, profits may be much more than 5%. Non-astrologers do not know why there are 25 ups plus downs per 6 hours of working day. This strange phenomenon can be explained ONLY astrologically : there are about 25 distinct horoscopes during 6 hours due to nearly 25 transits of planets into various bhaavas. Thus, there are 25 distinct charts per working day for a given place, and each of them should be analyzed strictly according to standard rules of phalita jyotisha. This technique is time-consuming, but it is ACCURATE, provided both Ganita and Phalita are based on original precepts of sages. This technique will give graph of ALL companies registered at a particular stock exchange, but can be roughly used to predict behaviour of most effective companies, as grouped under Sensex or Nifty. One can use this technique to buy/sell shares of ALL 30 companies of Sensex simultaneously, because individual companies may differ from the combined graph and may cheat the investor due to different astrological fate as ensuing from the horoscope of that company or of its chief owners. For mid-term and long-term investments, this technique is of no use : one must use national horoscopes of three types : annual chart of Mesha Samkraanti, Nakshatra charts which work for about 14 days, and Shashtyamsha charts which work for about 12 hours. Now, market capitalization of topmost 30 or 50 companies account for a good part of national wealth in India, hence 2nd bhaava in national horoscope can be used to predict behaviour of Sensex or Nifty. I have tested above ideas successfully. But if the investor's personal fate is not good, planetary propitiation must be performed before doing anything in this field. Shenoy ji puts forth a good question : " How do we find the days on which he is likely to make profits or loss? " The answer depends upon the accuracy of analysis of stocks as well as of one'e own charts. In personal charts, most influential factors are Vimshottsri plus Varshaphala+ Maasaphala. If the praana-dahsaa of a given planet lasts for many days, exact timing of its chief effect can be determined from the ratio of its degrees (foorgetting the raashi) to 30 degrees and getting the same ratio in the duration of that praana-dashaa. Gochara helps further in exact timing of events. All astrologers in this thread already know the rudimentary concepts outlined above, but the problem arises from application of PHYSICAL astronomy which can never be cured on internet. -Vinay Jha ============ === === , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Vijay Rajput & Vinay Jha, > > I have to thank both of you posting the info regarding work on stock movements > > I aware that the research on the subject is time consuming and tedious job. > > However, I think there are 2 basic issues that need to addressed. > > 1) daily movemnt of sensex along with sectoral indices. > 2) Individual compatability with trading prospects in general > 3) individuals daily rate of success or failure (profit /loss). > > In practical trading daily movement of sensex is of little help unless the movement changes sharply on the mid-day, which takes any one by surprise and chances of loss is high. > > How de we determine with certainity that an individual shall be successfull in trading business? this does not involve long term investments, but pure trading activity. > > Even if an individual is so compatable, he need make profit every day. How do we find the days on which he is likely to make profits or loss? > > If we can find a resonable answer with atleast 60 to 70% of success rate, it would be helpfull to many ordinary citizens who venture into stock market expecting to make quick bucks. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Vijay Rajput vijayrajput13@ ... > > Sat, October 17, 2009 3:50:11 PM > Re: can i apply Astrology on Stock market > > > Dear Prashantji,Krishnan ji and Sureshji,Namste, > Happy Diwali to you and you family members. > > As Jupiter is in direct motion Bank Nifty,Reality, and infrastructures are moving as predicted in the earlier post.Today Sun is moved in to tula rasi and you will see some fall in the market and this may continue for one or two trading sessions.As sun gives it's results at entry of the sign.Further move in the Bank stocks/BankNifty is likely in the 1st week of Nov 2009.Particapation in the market will also impove in this week.Inester' s sentiments is going to improve in next moon as ketu will move out of Karka rasi.Ketu in karka harmed the market sentimentaly. > All the best > Take Care > Vijay > > --- On Sat, 10/3/09, Vattem Krishnan bursar_99 > wrote: > > Vattem Krishnan bursar_99 > > Re: can i apply Astrology on Stock market > > Saturday, October 3, 2009, 2:56 PM > > > > Dear Friends, > > The Sensex touching 17000 can not be considered as a guide for the improvement of trading. > > Mars into a water sign ruled by Moon is bound to give jitters.being a festival season,with fears of famine.due to short fall of rains are bound to have impact on sentiments. > > Globallly finances in stocks has not chnaged much.mainly mutual funds happened to be main attaractions has still not raised hopes for investor.Realty sector yet waiting for bank incentives.Even banks too starved for advances.Private sector except communications. chemiclas and where Govt holds major stakes is giving hopes.Thanx to our strong economic base that is sparing the Govt tradings. > > At this point of time till jupiter moves direct a cautious approach need to be exercised. > > One exception:For those daily tarding is their stuff they can be relentless as profits and losses go hand in hand.Beware speculation are guided by one's strength of 8th house aknown malefic house. > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > > > --- On Sat, 10/3/09, Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar > wrote: > > Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar > > > Re: can i apply Astrology on Stock market > > > > Saturday, October 3, 2009, 10:18 AM > > > > Dear Vijay > > it is a good post but will like u to apply this for a week coming Next monday or the week after on the said principles and make ur forecast and ideal is to do it for the entire month week wise and this will cover the sun entry into Libra also so 2 weeks in Librta can also be studied a practical series of 3-4 weeks is a welcome one > > as it is a known fact that Mkts can't be really predicted by even the best of expeets else why will we have the crisis that engulfed the world in this magnitude at least a indication knowing it will happen this bad was not said leave alone the %age > > u can see in some groups a few members r trying to predict the same with the Sankranti yr model or sankranti Purusha, the aditipatis for diff sectors and not much has happened to that on the 1st occassion 2nd one is mixed. > > orashant > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Vijay Rajput <vijayrajput13@ > > > > > Sat, October 3, 2009 4:14:40 PM > > Re: can i apply Astrology on Stock market > > Dear Satya Ji,Namaste, > > Past 2-3 years I am tracking the stock market by using the basic principle of Vedic Astrology.My guru is helping me much in this regard.In the month of April On 9th April 2009 while answering a query I have predicted the short term bull run in the stock market after the transit of Jupiter. > > Again in the month of June I have predicted the consolidation of market and good rise in market is likely after 15th Oct 2009. > > Now how to use astrology is important.The boss of speculation is Saturn so closely watch the movement of Sat. > > Jupiter is dhanad it's movement and good position always indicates the liquidity in the market and you may be knowing at present only liquidity and speculation is driving the market.Monthly movement is to be seen by the move ment of Sun and sun gives the results at its entry.For day to day movement the move ment of Moon is very Important.And to track the intra day movement,the movement of Moon in D-60 is very Important and it can ve used for the movement of market.The navamsa position of planets gives the sector wise movement. > > In the coming period Jupiter and Mars will be sitting opposite to each other during this period you will see the sharp move in Banking,Realityand Infrastructure sectors.Watch the Bank Nifty. > > You can draw the Nifty Future's chart and use the daily transit on this chart. > > Even you can cast the individual chart of stocks. > > All the best > > Take care > > Vijay > > --- On Mon, 9/28/09, Vattem Krishnan bursar_99 > wrote: > > Vattem Krishnan bursar_99 > > > Re: can i apply Astrology on Stock market > > > > Monday, September 28, 2009, 10:09 AM > > Hello Sathya Ji, > > Financial Astrology and particulalrly Stock trading is an emerging concept.A couple of seminars have been held here there and some writers have also contributes articles in express Star teller. > > After economic rforms when privatisation on large scale with PPPs ,JVs and Venture Capital coming into existence the trade and economics was undergoing sea change. > > And to upset the calculations, the war like situatins,monopoly of oil producing contries have taken away sheen in the trade market. > > with huge success in Indian trade of mutual funds in India Astrologers basing financial Institutions performance and with blue chips of Larsen & Tubro,Tata, Relinace and Birla etc the speculation gianed lot of importance as the risk has increased.These major industries suddenly went behind screen with realty sector and DLF coming into picture. > > It is now certain,value of shares continue to hover around 5-6 major secctors like land,Reality, Pharma,steel, cement and other constructions industries. > > Apart from,Jupiter, venus,and Mercury,mars to has it's role in share market. > > we hear about Bulls and bears.Bearish tency is always when visionaries get combust mainly during amvasya days. > > Nodes too have role in sudden spurts in share values.The moon waxing is an indication for once investment to give return. > > But short term and long term invest definetely has to be based on the traditional view of slow moving palnets(Saturn, Jupiter and Vneus) and short term the main trade is based on moon,mars and mercury. > > when mercury conjunct,combust one has to be careful in putchasing stocks.Buying is investment and the trading has to be done on day to day basis looking into moons brightness other wise.the timing too has to be decided when sun is almost free from any malefic aspects. > > Sudden gains are always based on 8th house including horses races,lotteries and windfalls..8th t0 8th that is 3rd also trade,commerce and communication for disposals. > > 5th known to be house of intution has a major role intrading of stcocks. 11th bhava income house and 2nd for wealth when afflicted in natal chart one has to be very cautious in netering stcok markets. > > In traidng of stcoks losses are inherent,role of 12th house can never be discounted .malefics in 12th always represent heavy losses.Benifics may help in minimising losses.Thes fundamentals of Astrology cannever be ignored. > > Commodity specifics lke ketu for pharmas,venus for building.saturn for steel,Sun for Gold,mercury for chemicals and mars for land etc indicate their importance. > > Mind dual houses represented by pisces9watery sign) gemini(airy sign) virgo (earthy sign) and finally sagittarus(fiery sign) throw light on the nature of commodities also.Precious metals and stomes are always looked from 1,7and9 and buildings.2, 6 & 10,chemicals/ pahrma3,7 and 11.Allwatery signs for cold sotages,beverages and thermal equipment etc. > > Some studies and guidance cane be obatained from pranavasramam. org.Some books written on the subject have yet to gain currency.Visit to Bhavan's university Book Store in Delhi and sagar publications may help as titles can be seen.writer who have brought out publications both in Hindia and English may not be established writers. > > Last but not the least natives have 2-3 retrograde planets require caution in vest ments.however scripts for immediate gains can be traded.Having good jupiter karak for wealth can take risks and like wise venus dasa and exalted venus in pisces can go in for any type of trading.dasa of rahu ,Sade sati,trading in limited way may be done if moon is not debilitated or weak. > > EXpress Star Teller has brought out some articles written by JUB Sastry and other whcich are of help. > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > --- On Sat, 9/26/09, sathya <rainbow_in> wrote: > > sathya <rainbow_in> > > can i apply Astrology on Stock market > > > > Cc: bursar_99 > > Saturday, September 26, 2009, 2:55 AM > > hello., > > Can the most learned seniors & experts show some way > > to apply astrology on Stock market. > > what are the reasons and how the planetary position will take the Stock Market up and what combination' s will make the Stock market come down. > > what are the sectors which can rise and as of now till what time can be upside bull market can sustain, > > Pls advice me some good books on using Astrology in Stock market, > > thanks > > sathya > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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