Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Respected Sri Prasant Pandey Ji,Vattem Krishnan Ji,Gopu Ji,Suresh Babu Ji, & Seniors,Please tell me birth time rectification traditional astrology method with details if any.For example I know my incorrect birth time 8:15AM,POB-BASTI (U.P).DOB-20.04.1959.It is very necessary for classes and masses. with thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Dear friend, The best method for birth time rectification is the basis of matching of life events/facts and dates on the basis of any good rasi or nakshatra dasa in which the astrologer has good deal of proficiency. Whether traditional or modern all birht time rectificaiton method must conform to this basic principle. Regards, Mrutyunjay Tripathy (Consultancy out of group is not free) , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > Respected Sri Prasant Pandey Ji,Vattem Krishnan Ji,Gopu Ji,Suresh Babu Ji, & Seniors,Please tell me birth time rectification traditional astrology method with details if any.For example I know my incorrect birth time 8:15AM,POB-BASTI (U.P).DOB-20.04.1959.It is very necessary for classes and masses. > with thanks & regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Dear Misra ji, I think the member asked for " traditional methods " not KP isnt it. u can add KP also after that and it is up to him/her to choose what they want. the cluse from Nashta jataka are many so the member must find it, test them Prashant /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 ________________________________ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra Cc: Sureshbabuag ; Kerala_vedic_astrlogy Mon, October 19, 2009 7:51:23 AM Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Respected Sri Prasant Pandey Ji,Vattem Krishnan Ji,Gopu Ji,Suresh Babu Ji, & Seniors,Please tell me birth time rectification traditional astrology method with details if any.For example I know my incorrect birth time 8:15AM,POB-BASTI (U.P).DOB-20. 04.1959.It is very necessary for classes and masses. with thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Dear Prashant ji, I think it was misra ji himself who asked the question. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar Mon, October 19, 2009 5:33:08 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear Misra ji, I think the member asked for " traditional methods " not KP isnt it. u can add KP also after that and it is up to him/her to choose what they want. the cluse from Nashta jataka are many so the member must find it, test them Prashant http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> Cc: Sureshbabuag; Kerala_vedic_ astrlogy Mon, October 19, 2009 7:51:23 AM Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Respected Sri Prasant Pandey Ji,Vattem Krishnan Ji,Gopu Ji,Suresh Babu Ji, & Seniors,Please tell me birth time rectification traditional astrology method with details if any.For example I know my incorrect birth time 8:15AM,POB-BASTI (U.P).DOB-20. 04.1959.It is very necessary for classes and masses. with thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Dear Misra Ji, There are several methods in Traditional Astrology for correcting Lagna. Some are simple & some are complicated. I shall give a simple method here. This is also called " Kunda Kriya " (one of the Kunda Kriya method). Multiply the lagna sputa by 81 (kunda). Expunge (reduce by 360deg) 360 deg from the longitude. Ex: lagna longitude = 256.42 Multiply by 256.42 * 81 = 20792.42 Reduce by 360 = 272.42 This is actually navanavamsa sputa of lagna The nakshtra of this sputa ie: Utrashada will be Janma or Anujanma (1, 10, 19th) star of moon. If the original tob is reasonably correct, the correction will only be a few seconds other wise it could be minutes. This is only one of the method. There are other compicated methods that could be used even wihout using the Nashta Jataka Methods, which are dependent on the time of query or prashna. Comparison of Navamsa, dwadasamsa & drekana are slightly more complex as it not mathematical & requires a very knowldge of traditional astrology. Similarly linking various dasa indicators also are very complex. In fact a good astrologer can even correct tob even by sign. but requires extensive facts about the person or his relatives. However mathematical method only whether it is Kp ot traditional can never be correct and these are in cycles. So which of the cycle will you accept?. It could be forward or backward. Hence it is important to varify by multiple methods of both mathematical as well as factual to determine the lagna time. Just compute the longituds for about 30 mts in a 5 second interval and check how many of " Tallies " , you are getting by both methods. In fact the so called KP method is only a varient of traditional method and nothing newly discovered by Krishna Moorthi. There are also other complex Kunda kriyas as well as using Gulika to correct lagna. Uttarakalamritha also provides another extensive method which I have checked and found not to be true in every case. There are also other publicly unknown methods. None of the above is my finding either, but based on classical texts only. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Dear Misra ji, > > I think the member asked for " traditional methods " not KP isnt it. > > u can add KP also after that and it is up to him/her to choose what they want. > > the cluse from Nashta jataka are many so the member must find it, test them > > Prashant > /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 > > > > > > ________________________________ > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra > > Cc: Sureshbabuag ; Kerala_vedic_astrlogy > Mon, October 19, 2009 7:51:23 AM > Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > Respected Sri Prasant Pandey Ji,Vattem Krishnan Ji,Gopu Ji,Suresh Babu Ji, & Seniors,Please tell me birth time rectification traditional astrology method with details if any.For example I know my incorrect birth time 8:15AM,POB-BASTI (U.P).DOB-20. 04.1959.It is very necessary for classes and masses. > with thanks & regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Respected Sri Prashant Kumar Pandey Ji,Sadar Namasthe,I asked birth time rectification method because so many people were asking me their correct birth time.I knew one method and I wanted to check my own method with traditional astrological method.But I found that method suggested by Sri Suresh Ji ,Tripathi Ji & others are quite lengthy.Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method and Sri Tripathi Ji Suggested me to check the life events where as to analyse only date of marriage,birth of male and female baby,date of joining of service/Job is quite impossible.So date of events can't be checked by any one and in my opinion it is possible for Siddh yogis who have Paranormal Powers.To rectify birth time I check Sub lord and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant and Sub lord of Ascendant Must Match with Star lord of Moon and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant must match with Sub lord of Moon and to adjust this I have to work and add or subtract few seconds or minutes from the given birth of native.I found this method applicable and correct in every case.Now a days I am adding this thing with my analysis if given birth time of native is incorrect.I am not well read person so I like 2*2=4 and I don't apply Coordinate Geometry or Calculus to rectify birth time.I hope that Very simple method suggested by me is quite correct and acceptable by classes and masses. with thanks & best regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra ________________________________ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar Mon, October 19, 2009 5:33:08 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear Misra ji, I think the member asked for " traditional methods " not KP isnt it. u can add KP also after that and it is up to him/her to choose what they want. the cluse from Nashta jataka are many so the member must find it, test them Prashant http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> Cc: Sureshbabuag; Kerala_vedic_ astrlogy Mon, October 19, 2009 7:51:23 AM Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Respected Sri Prasant Pandey Ji,Vattem Krishnan Ji,Gopu Ji,Suresh Babu Ji, & Seniors,Please tell me birth time rectification traditional astrology method with details if any.For example I know my incorrect birth time 8:15AM,POB-BASTI (U.P).DOB-20. 04.1959.It is very necessary for classes and masses. with thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Dear Dhirendranath Ji, //Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method // What do you find " philisophical " in " my " method? And does what " Shri Suresh ji " believes really matters?. Any sane Astrologer will cross check any aspect to confirm factors just like any other science and that is exactly what is meant by elaboration and again mentioned by Shri Mrityunjay Tripaty also. Perhaps you may not be aware of the old saying " short cuts will cut you short " and that Astrology in particular does not always work on mathematical lines alone and that is what makes it complicated and the reason all the scientist of the world declare that it is not science at all. What you want to believe or not to believe is not my up to me. You asked for traditional method and I gave you just that. What is this sub sub word you & Kp are using ? doesn't it have a traditional nomenclature? Try using that nomenclature and you will find that you are standing on traditional ground. Nakshtradhipathy Rashyadhipathy Navamsadhipathy Dwadasamsadhipathy and so on... It is mandatory to spell the name of Rishi, its devatha, its chandas when one starts japa of a mantra. This is to remember who devised that mantra and to declare that It was not created by " me " and to lay the credits where it rightfully belongs. This is Indian Tradition. And what Krishna Moorthy nor his followers seems be to doing. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. ________________________________ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra Tue, October 20, 2009 8:26:02 AM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Respected Sri Prashant Kumar Pandey Ji,Sadar Namasthe,I asked birth time rectification method because so many people were asking me their correct birth time.I knew one method and I wanted to check my own method with traditional astrological method.But I found that method suggested by Sri Suresh Ji ,Tripathi Ji & others are quite lengthy.Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method and Sri Tripathi Ji Suggested me to check the life events where as to analyse only date of marriage,birth of male and female baby,date of joining of service/Job is quite impossible.So date of events can't be checked by any one and in my opinion it is possible for Siddh yogis who have Paranormal Powers.To rectify birth time I check Sub lord and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant and Sub lord of Ascendant Must Match with Star lord of Moon and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant must match with Sub lord of Moon and to adjust this I have to work and add or subtract few seconds or minutes from the given birth of native.I found this method applicable and correct in every case.Now a days I am adding this thing with my analysis if given birth time of native is incorrect.I am not well read person so I like 2*2=4 and I don't apply Coordinate Geometry or Calculus to rectify birth time.I hope that Very simple method suggested by me is quite correct and acceptable by classes and masses. with thanks & best regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra ____________ _________ _________ __ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Mon, October 19, 2009 5:33:08 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear Misra ji, I think the member asked for " traditional methods " not KP isnt it. u can add KP also after that and it is up to him/her to choose what they want. the cluse from Nashta jataka are many so the member must find it, test them Prashant http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> Cc: Sureshbabuag; Kerala_vedic_ astrlogy Mon, October 19, 2009 7:51:23 AM Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Respected Sri Prasant Pandey Ji,Vattem Krishnan Ji,Gopu Ji,Suresh Babu Ji, & Seniors,Please tell me birth time rectification traditional astrology method with details if any.For example I know my incorrect birth time 8:15AM,POB-BASTI (U.P).DOB-20. 04.1959.It is very necessary for classes and masses. with thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Dear friends, I am quoting few basic principles of birth time rectification, ancient, medieval and modern :- (A) The ascendant of the horoscope must alilgn with the strongest planet of the hosocope ---- Swami Shree Yukteshwar Giri (B) The planets ruling the ascendant as star-sub and sub may appear as the star or sub or subsub lord of the moon also- Late Shri Krishnamoorthy (KP) © Langa or Lagna lord should be in trine to Moon or Moon sign lord period whoever is the strongest .........famous Bengali Astrologer Shree Rishti Dash of medieval (D) The Antar-tatwwa lord/ Tattwa lord/ Hora Lord/ Day lord may appear as the rulling planet of the ascendant at Lagna/Navamsa/Star/ Sub/Sub-sub level ( Tatta =panch tattwa are earth, water, fire, air, akasha ) (E) The Kunda (D-81) Langa must appear in trine to Langa, Lagna lord, Moon, Moonsign Lord or Mandi whoever is the stronegst (F) The ruling planets of langa ( rasi/amsa/star/sub-subsub) must be significator of houses 1, 7 and 10........propagator of Cuspal Interlik Theory Shree K Bhaskaran, Madurai I have experiemnted with all the methods above. Out of which method (B) and © appear to be too much general in nature and appear correct in 80% of cases only. Horoscope having weak/ afflicted moon/ moonsign lord do not fits into these two menthods of birth time rectification. Method (D) and (F) along with method (A) together can give us fair degree of success in almost all the cases. Regards, Mrutyunjay Tripathy (Consultancy out of group is not free) Please vist career-astrology to share your pains, pleasures and wisdom on career and astrology. ******************************************************************************* For details of astrological consultations and fees contact by email or telephone no. 91-11-9811971190 (Delhi). ******************************************************************************* --- On Mon, 10/19/09, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra Re: Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Cc: " jyotish " <astrologer_mrutyunjay Monday, October 19, 2009, 4:36 PM Dear Tripath Ji & Members,I am revealing here what I know about birth time correction technique.It is very simple thing that sub lord and sub -sub lord of the ascendant must appear as Moon's star lord and sub lord respectively which ensures that the time of birth is correct up to the minute and for this time of birth to be rectified with in + or - 30 minutes of actual time of birth.For example I have rectified my own birth time by adding +56 seconds.The TOB was known as 8:15AM and I added +56 seconds thus found my Correct birth time as 8:15:56AM,POB -BASTI,Longitude 82:44East,Latitude 26:48North,Date 20.04.1959. But one of the senior members was saying that this K.P.System is a big Zero.........he further says............................................ I have made clear that I don't have anything against the system as I know Kp is only an offshoot of traditional system. It is the atittude of those astrologers that is laughable. They will never agree to this. Tell me how many places are prashna marga etc mentioned in kp readers? In fact whole of krishna moorthi's work is based on traditional astrology with nakshtra system added to it. So Kp minus traditional astrology is a big zero. Just ask any kp astrologer to provide a quote for the basis of analysis and he shall blink because krishna moorthi did not provide it. But They dare to solve problems within a minute. Now you say about Nakshtra Chintamani. Why is it so difficult to admit that kp system is based on this tradition. If you are not aware, many astrologers of traditional system develop their own methods but never gloat over it like krishna moorthi and his followers for the simple fact that such methods are only based on traditional system............. With thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra jyotish <astrologer_mrutyunjay Mon, October 19, 2009 3:07:11 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear friend, The best method for birth time rectification is the basis of matching of life events/facts and dates on the basis of any good rasi or nakshatra dasa in which the astrologer has good deal of proficiency. Whether traditional or modern all birht time rectificaiton method must conform to this basic principle. Regards, Mrutyunjay Tripathy (Consultancy out of group is not free) , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > Respected Sri Prasant Pandey Ji,Vattem Krishnan Ji,Gopu Ji,Suresh Babu Ji, & Seniors,Please tell me birth time rectification traditional astrology method with details if any.For example I know my incorrect birth time 8:15AM,POB-BASTI (U.P).DOB-20. 04.1959.It is very necessary for classes and masses. > with thanks & regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 suresh ji can u plz do birth time correction of my huasband i request u with my hands joined.plz ________________________________ Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag Tue, October 20, 2009 10:20:50 AM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear Dhirendranath Ji, //Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method // What do you find " philisophical " in " my " method? And does what " Shri Suresh ji " believes really matters?. Any sane Astrologer will cross check any aspect to confirm factors just like any other science and that is exactly what is meant by elaboration and again mentioned by Shri Mrityunjay Tripaty also. Perhaps you may not be aware of the old saying " short cuts will cut you short " and that Astrology in particular does not always work on mathematical lines alone and that is what makes it complicated and the reason all the scientist of the world declare that it is not science at all. What you want to believe or not to believe is not my up to me. You asked for traditional method and I gave you just that. What is this sub sub word you & Kp are using ? doesn't it have a traditional nomenclature? Try using that nomenclature and you will find that you are standing on traditional ground. Nakshtradhipathy Rashyadhipathy Navamsadhipathy Dwadasamsadhipathy and so on... It is mandatory to spell the name of Rishi, its devatha, its chandas when one starts japa of a mantra. This is to remember who devised that mantra and to declare that It was not created by " me " and to lay the credits where it rightfully belongs. This is Indian Tradition. And what Krishna Moorthy nor his followers seems be to doing. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> Tue, October 20, 2009 8:26:02 AM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Respected Sri Prashant Kumar Pandey Ji,Sadar Namasthe,I asked birth time rectification method because so many people were asking me their correct birth time.I knew one method and I wanted to check my own method with traditional astrological method.But I found that method suggested by Sri Suresh Ji ,Tripathi Ji & others are quite lengthy.Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method and Sri Tripathi Ji Suggested me to check the life events where as to analyse only date of marriage,birth of male and female baby,date of joining of service/Job is quite impossible.So date of events can't be checked by any one and in my opinion it is possible for Siddh yogis who have Paranormal Powers.To rectify birth time I check Sub lord and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant and Sub lord of Ascendant Must Match with Star lord of Moon and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant must match with Sub lord of Moon and to adjust this I have to work and add or subtract few seconds or minutes from the given birth of native.I found this method applicable and correct in every case.Now a days I am adding this thing with my analysis if given birth time of native is incorrect.I am not well read person so I like 2*2=4 and I don't apply Coordinate Geometry or Calculus to rectify birth time.I hope that Very simple method suggested by me is quite correct and acceptable by classes and masses. with thanks & best regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra ____________ _________ _________ __ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Mon, October 19, 2009 5:33:08 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear Misra ji, I think the member asked for " traditional methods " not KP isnt it. u can add KP also after that and it is up to him/her to choose what they want. the cluse from Nashta jataka are many so the member must find it, test them Prashant http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> Cc: Sureshbabuag; Kerala_vedic_ astrlogy Mon, October 19, 2009 7:51:23 AM Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Respected Sri Prasant Pandey Ji,Vattem Krishnan Ji,Gopu Ji,Suresh Babu Ji, & Seniors,Please tell me birth time rectification traditional astrology method with details if any.For example I know my incorrect birth time 8:15AM,POB-BASTI (U.P).DOB-20. 04.1959.It is very necessary for classes and masses. with thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 suresh ji i again request to reply. ________________________________ Karan Kumari <architakhera Fri, October 23, 2009 11:12:40 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method suresh ji can u plz do birth time correction of my huasband i request u with my hands joined.plz ____________ _________ _________ __ Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Tue, October 20, 2009 10:20:50 AM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear Dhirendranath Ji, //Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method // What do you find " philisophical " in " my " method? And does what " Shri Suresh ji " believes really matters?. Any sane Astrologer will cross check any aspect to confirm factors just like any other science and that is exactly what is meant by elaboration and again mentioned by Shri Mrityunjay Tripaty also. Perhaps you may not be aware of the old saying " short cuts will cut you short " and that Astrology in particular does not always work on mathematical lines alone and that is what makes it complicated and the reason all the scientist of the world declare that it is not science at all. What you want to believe or not to believe is not my up to me. You asked for traditional method and I gave you just that. What is this sub sub word you & Kp are using ? doesn't it have a traditional nomenclature? Try using that nomenclature and you will find that you are standing on traditional ground. Nakshtradhipathy Rashyadhipathy Navamsadhipathy Dwadasamsadhipathy and so on... It is mandatory to spell the name of Rishi, its devatha, its chandas when one starts japa of a mantra. This is to remember who devised that mantra and to declare that It was not created by " me " and to lay the credits where it rightfully belongs. This is Indian Tradition. And what Krishna Moorthy nor his followers seems be to doing. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> Tue, October 20, 2009 8:26:02 AM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Respected Sri Prashant Kumar Pandey Ji,Sadar Namasthe,I asked birth time rectification method because so many people were asking me their correct birth time.I knew one method and I wanted to check my own method with traditional astrological method.But I found that method suggested by Sri Suresh Ji ,Tripathi Ji & others are quite lengthy.Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method and Sri Tripathi Ji Suggested me to check the life events where as to analyse only date of marriage,birth of male and female baby,date of joining of service/Job is quite impossible.So date of events can't be checked by any one and in my opinion it is possible for Siddh yogis who have Paranormal Powers.To rectify birth time I check Sub lord and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant and Sub lord of Ascendant Must Match with Star lord of Moon and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant must match with Sub lord of Moon and to adjust this I have to work and add or subtract few seconds or minutes from the given birth of native.I found this method applicable and correct in every case.Now a days I am adding this thing with my analysis if given birth time of native is incorrect.I am not well read person so I like 2*2=4 and I don't apply Coordinate Geometry or Calculus to rectify birth time.I hope that Very simple method suggested by me is quite correct and acceptable by classes and masses. with thanks & best regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra ____________ _________ _________ __ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Mon, October 19, 2009 5:33:08 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear Misra ji, I think the member asked for " traditional methods " not KP isnt it. u can add KP also after that and it is up to him/her to choose what they want. the cluse from Nashta jataka are many so the member must find it, test them Prashant http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> Cc: Sureshbabuag; Kerala_vedic_ astrlogy Mon, October 19, 2009 7:51:23 AM Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Respected Sri Prasant Pandey Ji,Vattem Krishnan Ji,Gopu Ji,Suresh Babu Ji, & Seniors,Please tell me birth time rectification traditional astrology method with details if any.For example I know my incorrect birth time 8:15AM,POB-BASTI (U.P).DOB-20. 04.1959.It is very necessary for classes and masses. with thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Dear Karan, I shall try to do it. pls give me some time & post the details. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ Karan Kumari <architakhera Sat, October 24, 2009 1:30:17 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method suresh ji i again request to reply. ____________ _________ _________ __ Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > Fri, October 23, 2009 11:12:40 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method suresh ji can u plz do birth time correction of my huasband i request u with my hands joined.plz ____________ _________ _________ __ Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Tue, October 20, 2009 10:20:50 AM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear Dhirendranath Ji, //Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method // What do you find " philisophical " in " my " method? And does what " Shri Suresh ji " believes really matters?. Any sane Astrologer will cross check any aspect to confirm factors just like any other science and that is exactly what is meant by elaboration and again mentioned by Shri Mrityunjay Tripaty also. Perhaps you may not be aware of the old saying " short cuts will cut you short " and that Astrology in particular does not always work on mathematical lines alone and that is what makes it complicated and the reason all the scientist of the world declare that it is not science at all. What you want to believe or not to believe is not my up to me. You asked for traditional method and I gave you just that. What is this sub sub word you & Kp are using ? doesn't it have a traditional nomenclature? Try using that nomenclature and you will find that you are standing on traditional ground. Nakshtradhipathy Rashyadhipathy Navamsadhipathy Dwadasamsadhipathy and so on... It is mandatory to spell the name of Rishi, its devatha, its chandas when one starts japa of a mantra. This is to remember who devised that mantra and to declare that It was not created by " me " and to lay the credits where it rightfully belongs. This is Indian Tradition. And what Krishna Moorthy nor his followers seems be to doing. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> Tue, October 20, 2009 8:26:02 AM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Respected Sri Prashant Kumar Pandey Ji,Sadar Namasthe,I asked birth time rectification method because so many people were asking me their correct birth time.I knew one method and I wanted to check my own method with traditional astrological method.But I found that method suggested by Sri Suresh Ji ,Tripathi Ji & others are quite lengthy.Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method and Sri Tripathi Ji Suggested me to check the life events where as to analyse only date of marriage,birth of male and female baby,date of joining of service/Job is quite impossible.So date of events can't be checked by any one and in my opinion it is possible for Siddh yogis who have Paranormal Powers.To rectify birth time I check Sub lord and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant and Sub lord of Ascendant Must Match with Star lord of Moon and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant must match with Sub lord of Moon and to adjust this I have to work and add or subtract few seconds or minutes from the given birth of native.I found this method applicable and correct in every case.Now a days I am adding this thing with my analysis if given birth time of native is incorrect.I am not well read person so I like 2*2=4 and I don't apply Coordinate Geometry or Calculus to rectify birth time.I hope that Very simple method suggested by me is quite correct and acceptable by classes and masses. with thanks & best regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra ____________ _________ _________ __ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Mon, October 19, 2009 5:33:08 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear Misra ji, I think the member asked for " traditional methods " not KP isnt it. u can add KP also after that and it is up to him/her to choose what they want. the cluse from Nashta jataka are many so the member must find it, test them Prashant http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> Cc: Sureshbabuag; Kerala_vedic_ astrlogy Mon, October 19, 2009 7:51:23 AM Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Respected Sri Prasant Pandey Ji,Vattem Krishnan Ji,Gopu Ji,Suresh Babu Ji, & Seniors,Please tell me birth time rectification traditional astrology method with details if any.For example I know my incorrect birth time 8:15AM,POB-BASTI (U.P).DOB-20. 04.1959.It is very necessary for classes and masses. with thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 respected suresh ji plz take your time but plz do reply when u free to give ur precious time. i am posting his birth details if any more details needed plz inform. his dob 17 oct 1980 place is jullundhar/jalandhar time is 4:25 to 4:45 am thank you very much karuna ________________________________ Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag Sat, October 24, 2009 11:02:34 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear Karan, I shall try to do it. pls give me some time & post the details. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > Sat, October 24, 2009 1:30:17 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method suresh ji i again request to reply. ____________ _________ _________ __ Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > Fri, October 23, 2009 11:12:40 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method suresh ji can u plz do birth time correction of my huasband i request u with my hands joined.plz ____________ _________ _________ __ Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Tue, October 20, 2009 10:20:50 AM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear Dhirendranath Ji, //Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method // What do you find " philisophical " in " my " method? And does what " Shri Suresh ji " believes really matters?. Any sane Astrologer will cross check any aspect to confirm factors just like any other science and that is exactly what is meant by elaboration and again mentioned by Shri Mrityunjay Tripaty also. Perhaps you may not be aware of the old saying " short cuts will cut you short " and that Astrology in particular does not always work on mathematical lines alone and that is what makes it complicated and the reason all the scientist of the world declare that it is not science at all. What you want to believe or not to believe is not my up to me. You asked for traditional method and I gave you just that. What is this sub sub word you & Kp are using ? doesn't it have a traditional nomenclature? Try using that nomenclature and you will find that you are standing on traditional ground. Nakshtradhipathy Rashyadhipathy Navamsadhipathy Dwadasamsadhipathy and so on... It is mandatory to spell the name of Rishi, its devatha, its chandas when one starts japa of a mantra. This is to remember who devised that mantra and to declare that It was not created by " me " and to lay the credits where it rightfully belongs. This is Indian Tradition. And what Krishna Moorthy nor his followers seems be to doing. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> Tue, October 20, 2009 8:26:02 AM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Respected Sri Prashant Kumar Pandey Ji,Sadar Namasthe,I asked birth time rectification method because so many people were asking me their correct birth time.I knew one method and I wanted to check my own method with traditional astrological method.But I found that method suggested by Sri Suresh Ji ,Tripathi Ji & others are quite lengthy.Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method and Sri Tripathi Ji Suggested me to check the life events where as to analyse only date of marriage,birth of male and female baby,date of joining of service/Job is quite impossible.So date of events can't be checked by any one and in my opinion it is possible for Siddh yogis who have Paranormal Powers.To rectify birth time I check Sub lord and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant and Sub lord of Ascendant Must Match with Star lord of Moon and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant must match with Sub lord of Moon and to adjust this I have to work and add or subtract few seconds or minutes from the given birth of native.I found this method applicable and correct in every case.Now a days I am adding this thing with my analysis if given birth time of native is incorrect.I am not well read person so I like 2*2=4 and I don't apply Coordinate Geometry or Calculus to rectify birth time.I hope that Very simple method suggested by me is quite correct and acceptable by classes and masses. with thanks & best regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra ____________ _________ _________ __ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Mon, October 19, 2009 5:33:08 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear Misra ji, I think the member asked for " traditional methods " not KP isnt it. u can add KP also after that and it is up to him/her to choose what they want. the cluse from Nashta jataka are many so the member must find it, test them Prashant http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> Cc: Sureshbabuag; Kerala_vedic_ astrlogy Mon, October 19, 2009 7:51:23 AM Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Respected Sri Prasant Pandey Ji,Vattem Krishnan Ji,Gopu Ji,Suresh Babu Ji, & Seniors,Please tell me birth time rectification traditional astrology method with details if any.For example I know my incorrect birth time 8:15AM,POB-BASTI (U.P).DOB-20. 04..1959.It is very necessary for classes and masses. with thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Hello Archita Ji, I have seen you taking keen interest in jyotish for the past couple of moths.By this time analysis/predictions got for you and for ther known people to you must have some comprehensive idea of Astrology. we know in Jyotish,there are different apparoches and each one as per his interst puruses Jyotish and talk sevral things. In fact when you want to really test the accuarcy of dates of birth it is really difficult to say how much accuarates it is. As jyotish.Astrologer it is necessary that details are correct to the extent mentioned through his own method with reference to the issue raise. None of present Astrologer cast horoscopes and give analysis .All of us use softwares and each softwres has it's own whether in ayanamsa or some other calculation of dasa itself. having definete influnce on results/events in life. By going for rectification or so called accurate time of birth does not really serve any great purpose.It is therfore good to stick to accpeted methods of mother informing/recording birth time or others noting it and making it official.Might also be knowing even Obama; time of birth is also not the one as on official records.But no body suggested /worked out but made predictions based on declared time.The mothod necessitating for corrections is only a waywordness.After accurate birth time no body can dictate the kind of events/happens that can occur/take place. Late Shri B.V.Raman specifically mentions invariably " except creator Brahma can say eith certainity what will definetely happen.? Please be methodical and try to increase/enhance Astrological awareness only byperforming yourself and leaving the results to Almighty. In any case please read Chapter xxxviii of Hindu Predictive AStrology to know when and how the necesity for birth time rectification is needed. Also we have a group of Timing of Events following KAS also check timing of birth and give prediction. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Karan Kumari <architakhera wrote: Karan Kumari <architakhera Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Saturday, October 24, 2009, 1:42 PM respected suresh ji plz take your time but plz do reply when u free to give ur precious time. i am posting his birth details if any more details needed plz inform. his dob 17 oct 1980 place is jullundhar/jalandha r time is 4:25 to 4:45 am thank you very much karuna ____________ _________ _________ __ Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Sat, October 24, 2009 11:02:34 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear Karan, I shall try to do it. pls give me some time & post the details. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > Sat, October 24, 2009 1:30:17 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method suresh ji i again request to reply. ____________ _________ _________ __ Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > Fri, October 23, 2009 11:12:40 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method suresh ji can u plz do birth time correction of my huasband i request u with my hands joined.plz ____________ _________ _________ __ Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Tue, October 20, 2009 10:20:50 AM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear Dhirendranath Ji, //Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method // What do you find " philisophical " in " my " method? And does what " Shri Suresh ji " believes really matters?. Any sane Astrologer will cross check any aspect to confirm factors just like any other science and that is exactly what is meant by elaboration and again mentioned by Shri Mrityunjay Tripaty also. Perhaps you may not be aware of the old saying " short cuts will cut you short " and that Astrology in particular does not always work on mathematical lines alone and that is what makes it complicated and the reason all the scientist of the world declare that it is not science at all. What you want to believe or not to believe is not my up to me. You asked for traditional method and I gave you just that. What is this sub sub word you & Kp are using ? doesn't it have a traditional nomenclature? Try using that nomenclature and you will find that you are standing on traditional ground. Nakshtradhipathy Rashyadhipathy Navamsadhipathy Dwadasamsadhipathy and so on... It is mandatory to spell the name of Rishi, its devatha, its chandas when one starts japa of a mantra. This is to remember who devised that mantra and to declare that It was not created by " me " and to lay the credits where it rightfully belongs. This is Indian Tradition. And what Krishna Moorthy nor his followers seems be to doing. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> Tue, October 20, 2009 8:26:02 AM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Respected Sri Prashant Kumar Pandey Ji,Sadar Namasthe,I asked birth time rectification method because so many people were asking me their correct birth time.I knew one method and I wanted to check my own method with traditional astrological method.But I found that method suggested by Sri Suresh Ji ,Tripathi Ji & others are quite lengthy.Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method and Sri Tripathi Ji Suggested me to check the life events where as to analyse only date of marriage,birth of male and female baby,date of joining of service/Job is quite impossible.So date of events can't be checked by any one and in my opinion it is possible for Siddh yogis who have Paranormal Powers.To rectify birth time I check Sub lord and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant and Sub lord of Ascendant Must Match with Star lord of Moon and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant must match with Sub lord of Moon and to adjust this I have to work and add or subtract few seconds or minutes from the given birth of native.I found this method applicable and correct in every case.Now a days I am adding this thing with my analysis if given birth time of native is incorrect.I am not well read person so I like 2*2=4 and I don't apply Coordinate Geometry or Calculus to rectify birth time.I hope that Very simple method suggested by me is quite correct and acceptable by classes and masses. with thanks & best regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra ____________ _________ _________ __ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Mon, October 19, 2009 5:33:08 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear Misra ji, I think the member asked for " traditional methods " not KP isnt it. u can add KP also after that and it is up to him/her to choose what they want. the cluse from Nashta jataka are many so the member must find it, test them Prashant http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> Cc: Sureshbabuag; Kerala_vedic_ astrlogy Mon, October 19, 2009 7:51:23 AM Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Respected Sri Prasant Pandey Ji,Vattem Krishnan Ji,Gopu Ji,Suresh Babu Ji, & Seniors,Please tell me birth time rectification traditional astrology method with details if any.For example I know my incorrect birth time 8:15AM,POB-BASTI (U.P).DOB-20. 04..1959.It is very necessary for classes and masses. with thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 respected suresh ji i am eagerly waiting when u will spare some time for me. thank you karuna ________________________________ Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag Sat, October 24, 2009 11:02:34 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear Karan, I shall try to do it. pls give me some time & post the details. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > Sat, October 24, 2009 1:30:17 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method suresh ji i again request to reply. ____________ _________ _________ __ Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > @ .. com Fri, October 23, 2009 11:12:40 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method suresh ji can u plz do birth time correction of my huasband i request u with my hands joined.plz ____________ _________ _________ __ Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Tue, October 20, 2009 10:20:50 AM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear Dhirendranath Ji, //Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method // What do you find " philisophical " in " my " method? And does what " Shri Suresh ji " believes really matters?. Any sane Astrologer will cross check any aspect to confirm factors just like any other science and that is exactly what is meant by elaboration and again mentioned by Shri Mrityunjay Tripaty also. Perhaps you may not be aware of the old saying " short cuts will cut you short " and that Astrology in particular does not always work on mathematical lines alone and that is what makes it complicated and the reason all the scientist of the world declare that it is not science at all. What you want to believe or not to believe is not my up to me. You asked for traditional method and I gave you just that. What is this sub sub word you & Kp are using ? doesn't it have a traditional nomenclature? Try using that nomenclature and you will find that you are standing on traditional ground. Nakshtradhipathy Rashyadhipathy Navamsadhipathy Dwadasamsadhipathy and so on... It is mandatory to spell the name of Rishi, its devatha, its chandas when one starts japa of a mantra. This is to remember who devised that mantra and to declare that It was not created by " me " and to lay the credits where it rightfully belongs. This is Indian Tradition. And what Krishna Moorthy nor his followers seems be to doing. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> Tue, October 20, 2009 8:26:02 AM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Respected Sri Prashant Kumar Pandey Ji,Sadar Namasthe,I asked birth time rectification method because so many people were asking me their correct birth time.I knew one method and I wanted to check my own method with traditional astrological method.But I found that method suggested by Sri Suresh Ji ,Tripathi Ji & others are quite lengthy.Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method and Sri Tripathi Ji Suggested me to check the life events where as to analyse only date of marriage,birth of male and female baby,date of joining of service/Job is quite impossible.So date of events can't be checked by any one and in my opinion it is possible for Siddh yogis who have Paranormal Powers.To rectify birth time I check Sub lord and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant and Sub lord of Ascendant Must Match with Star lord of Moon and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant must match with Sub lord of Moon and to adjust this I have to work and add or subtract few seconds or minutes from the given birth of native.I found this method applicable and correct in every case.Now a days I am adding this thing with my analysis if given birth time of native is incorrect.I am not well read person so I like 2*2=4 and I don't apply Coordinate Geometry or Calculus to rectify birth time.I hope that Very simple method suggested by me is quite correct and acceptable by classes and masses. with thanks & best regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra ____________ _________ _________ __ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Mon, October 19, 2009 5:33:08 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear Misra ji, I think the member asked for " traditional methods " not KP isnt it. u can add KP also after that and it is up to him/her to choose what they want. the cluse from Nashta jataka are many so the member must find it, test them Prashant http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> Cc: Sureshbabuag; Kerala_vedic_ astrlogy Mon, October 19, 2009 7:51:23 AM Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Respected Sri Prasant Pandey Ji,Vattem Krishnan Ji,Gopu Ji,Suresh Babu Ji, & Seniors,Please tell me birth time rectification traditional astrology method with details if any.For example I know my incorrect birth time 8:15AM,POB-BASTI (U.P).DOB-20. 04.1959.It is very necessary for classes and masses. with thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 respected vattem ji i respect your thoughts but here something of urgent importance is needed. he has tried to commit suicide twice and as a wife nobody can understand what i am going through.acc to many his right time is required i even gave money to rectify his time on net but the person cheated.so plz forgive if any mistake i have done. vattem ji u have always helped and solved my problems in many ways plz if u do not mind i like to donate one beautiful shaligram shila to u .if u believe or trust in LORD HARI plz let me know as it can ge given only to vaishanv. thank you ________________________________ Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 Sun, October 25, 2009 12:17:38 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Hello Archita Ji, I have seen you taking keen interest in jyotish for the past couple of moths.By this time analysis/prediction s got for you and for ther known people to you must have some comprehensive idea of Astrology. we know in Jyotish,there are different apparoches and each one as per his interst puruses Jyotish and talk sevral things. In fact when you want to really test the accuarcy of dates of birth it is really difficult to say how much accuarates it is. As jyotish.Astrologer it is necessary that details are correct to the extent mentioned through his own method with reference to the issue raise. None of present Astrologer cast horoscopes and give analysis .All of us use softwares and each softwres has it's own whether in ayanamsa or some other calculation of dasa itself. having definete influnce on results/events in life. By going for rectification or so called accurate time of birth does not really serve any great purpose.It is therfore good to stick to accpeted methods of mother informing/recording birth time or others noting it and making it official.Might also be knowing even Obama; time of birth is also not the one as on official records.But no body suggested /worked out but made predictions based on declared time.The mothod necessitating for corrections is only a waywordness. After accurate birth time no body can dictate the kind of events/happens that can occur/take place. Late Shri B.V.Raman specifically mentions invariably " except creator Brahma can say eith certainity what will definetely happen.? Please be methodical and try to increase/enhance Astrological awareness only byperforming yourself and leaving the results to Almighty. In any case please read Chapter xxxviii of Hindu Predictive AStrology to know when and how the necesity for birth time rectification is needed. Also we have a group of Timing of Events following KAS also check timing of birth and give prediction. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > wrote: Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Saturday, October 24, 2009, 1:42 PM respected suresh ji plz take your time but plz do reply when u free to give ur precious time. i am posting his birth details if any more details needed plz inform. his dob 17 oct 1980 place is jullundhar/jalandha r time is 4:25 to 4:45 am thank you very much karuna ____________ _________ _________ __ Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Sat, October 24, 2009 11:02:34 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear Karan, I shall try to do it. pls give me some time & post the details. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > Sat, October 24, 2009 1:30:17 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method suresh ji i again request to reply. ____________ _________ _________ __ Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > Fri, October 23, 2009 11:12:40 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method suresh ji can u plz do birth time correction of my huasband i request u with my hands joined.plz ____________ _________ _________ __ Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Tue, October 20, 2009 10:20:50 AM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear Dhirendranath Ji, //Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method // What do you find " philisophical " in " my " method? And does what " Shri Suresh ji " believes really matters?. Any sane Astrologer will cross check any aspect to confirm factors just like any other science and that is exactly what is meant by elaboration and again mentioned by Shri Mrityunjay Tripaty also. Perhaps you may not be aware of the old saying " short cuts will cut you short " and that Astrology in particular does not always work on mathematical lines alone and that is what makes it complicated and the reason all the scientist of the world declare that it is not science at all. What you want to believe or not to believe is not my up to me. You asked for traditional method and I gave you just that. What is this sub sub word you & Kp are using ? doesn't it have a traditional nomenclature? Try using that nomenclature and you will find that you are standing on traditional ground. Nakshtradhipathy Rashyadhipathy Navamsadhipathy Dwadasamsadhipathy and so on.... It is mandatory to spell the name of Rishi, its devatha, its chandas when one starts japa of a mantra. This is to remember who devised that mantra and to declare that It was not created by " me " and to lay the credits where it rightfully belongs. This is Indian Tradition. And what Krishna Moorthy nor his followers seems be to doing. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> Tue, October 20, 2009 8:26:02 AM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Respected Sri Prashant Kumar Pandey Ji,Sadar Namasthe,I asked birth time rectification method because so many people were asking me their correct birth time.I knew one method and I wanted to check my own method with traditional astrological method.But I found that method suggested by Sri Suresh Ji ,Tripathi Ji & others are quite lengthy.Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method and Sri Tripathi Ji Suggested me to check the life events where as to analyse only date of marriage,birth of male and female baby,date of joining of service/Job is quite impossible.So date of events can't be checked by any one and in my opinion it is possible for Siddh yogis who have Paranormal Powers.To rectify birth time I check Sub lord and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant and Sub lord of Ascendant Must Match with Star lord of Moon and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant must match with Sub lord of Moon and to adjust this I have to work and add or subtract few seconds or minutes from the given birth of native.I found this method applicable and correct in every case.Now a days I am adding this thing with my analysis if given birth time of native is incorrect.I am not well read person so I like 2*2=4 and I don't apply Coordinate Geometry or Calculus to rectify birth time.I hope that Very simple method suggested by me is quite correct and acceptable by classes and masses. with thanks & best regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra ____________ _________ _________ __ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Mon, October 19, 2009 5:33:08 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear Misra ji, I think the member asked for " traditional methods " not KP isnt it. u can add KP also after that and it is up to him/her to choose what they want. the cluse from Nashta jataka are many so the member must find it, test them Prashant http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> Cc: Sureshbabuag; Kerala_vedic_ astrlogy Mon, October 19, 2009 7:51:23 AM Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Respected Sri Prasant Pandey Ji,Vattem Krishnan Ji,Gopu Ji,Suresh Babu Ji, & Seniors,Please tell me birth time rectification traditional astrology method with details if any.For example I know my incorrect birth time 8:15AM,POB-BASTI (U.P).DOB-20. 04..1959.It is very necessary for classes and masses. with thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Dear Karan Kumari, I feel the correct time of birth is 4:43:00 AM. This is as per Chitra Paksha Ayanamsa (Lahiri). Between the time gap you had mentioned 4:25 to 4:45, there could be three timmings 4:23:00AM. 4:36:00AM and 4:43:00AM, Out of these, I tend to select 4:43:00AM as the correct time. There could be few seconds upto 27sec which is immaterial for general use. The logic & reasoning is very complex & elaborate. However, As shree krishna ji has stated, it doesn't matter much in practical astrology. Ultimately it all boils down to real life, grace of god. I hope this helps you. , Karan Kumari <architakhera wrote: > > respected vattem ji > i respect your thoughts but here something of urgent importance is needed. > he has tried to commit suicide twice and as a wife nobody can understand what > i am going through.acc to many his right time is required i even gave money > to rectify his time on net but the person cheated.so plz forgive if any mistake > i have done. > vattem ji u have always helped and solved my problems in many ways plz > if u do not mind i like to donate one beautiful shaligram shila to u .if u believe > or trust in LORD HARI plz let me know as it can ge given only to vaishanv. > thank you > > > > > ________________________________ > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > > Sun, October 25, 2009 12:17:38 PM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > Hello Archita Ji, > I have seen you taking keen interest in jyotish for the past couple of moths.By this time analysis/prediction s got for you and for ther known people to you must have some comprehensive idea of Astrology. > we know in Jyotish,there are different apparoches and each one as per his interst puruses Jyotish and talk sevral things. > In fact when you want to really test the accuarcy of dates of birth it is really difficult to say how much accuarates it is. > As jyotish.Astrologer it is necessary that details are correct to the extent mentioned through his own method with reference to the issue raise. > None of present Astrologer cast horoscopes and give analysis .All of us use softwares and each softwres has it's own whether in ayanamsa or some other calculation of dasa itself. having definete influnce on results/events in life. > By going for rectification or so called accurate time of birth does not really serve any great purpose.It is therfore good to stick to accpeted methods of mother informing/recording birth time or others noting it and making it official.Might also be knowing even Obama; time of birth is also not the one as on official records.But no body suggested /worked out but made predictions based on declared time.The mothod necessitating for corrections is only a waywordness. After accurate birth time no body can dictate the kind of events/happens that can occur/take place. > Late Shri B.V.Raman specifically mentions invariably " except creator Brahma can say eith certainity what will definetely happen.? > Please be methodical and try to increase/enhance Astrological awareness only byperforming yourself and leaving the results to Almighty. > In any case please read Chapter xxxviii of Hindu Predictive AStrology to know when and how the necesity for birth time rectification is needed. > Also we have a group of Timing of Events following KAS also check timing of birth and give prediction. > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > wrote: > > Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 1:42 PM > > > > respected suresh ji > plz take your time but plz do reply when u free to give ur precious time. i am posting > his birth details if any more details needed plz inform. > his dob 17 oct 1980 > place is jullundhar/jalandha r > time is 4:25 to 4:45 am > thank you very much > karuna > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > > > Sat, October 24, 2009 11:02:34 PM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > Dear Karan, > > I shall try to do it. pls give me some time & post the details. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > > > Sat, October 24, 2009 1:30:17 PM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > suresh ji i again request to reply. > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > > > Fri, October 23, 2009 11:12:40 PM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > suresh ji can u plz do birth time correction of my huasband i request u with my hands joined.plz > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > > > Tue, October 20, 2009 10:20:50 AM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > Dear Dhirendranath Ji, > > //Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method // > > What do you find " philisophical " in " my " method? > > And does what " Shri Suresh ji " believes really matters?. > > Any sane Astrologer will cross check any aspect to confirm factors just like any other science and that is exactly what is meant by elaboration and again mentioned by Shri Mrityunjay Tripaty also. > > Perhaps you may not be aware of the old saying " short cuts will cut you short " and that Astrology in particular does not always work on mathematical lines alone and that is what makes it complicated and the reason all the scientist of the world declare that it is not science at all. > > What you want to believe or not to believe is not my up to me. You asked for traditional method and I gave you just that. > > What is this sub sub word you & Kp are using ? doesn't it have a traditional nomenclature? Try using that nomenclature and you will find that you are standing on traditional ground. > > Nakshtradhipathy > Rashyadhipathy > Navamsadhipathy > Dwadasamsadhipathy > > and so on.... > > It is mandatory to spell the name of Rishi, its devatha, its chandas when one starts japa of a mantra. This is to remember who devised that mantra and to declare that It was not created by " me " and to lay the credits where it rightfully belongs. > > This is Indian Tradition. > > And what Krishna Moorthy nor his followers seems be to doing. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> > > Tue, October 20, 2009 8:26:02 AM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > Respected Sri Prashant Kumar Pandey Ji,Sadar Namasthe,I asked birth time rectification method because so many people were asking me their correct birth time.I knew one method and I wanted to check my own method with traditional astrological method.But I found that method suggested by Sri Suresh Ji ,Tripathi Ji & others are quite lengthy.Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method and Sri Tripathi Ji Suggested me to check the life events where as to analyse only date of marriage,birth of male and female baby,date of joining of service/Job is quite impossible.So date of events can't be checked by any one and in my opinion it is possible for Siddh yogis who have Paranormal Powers.To rectify birth time I check Sub lord and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant and Sub lord of Ascendant Must Match with Star lord of Moon and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant must match with Sub lord of Moon and to adjust this I have to work and add or subtract few seconds > or minutes from the given birth of native.I found this method applicable and correct in every case.Now a days I am adding this thing with my analysis if given birth time of native is incorrect.I am not well read person so I like 2*2=4 and I don't apply Coordinate Geometry or Calculus to rectify birth time.I hope that Very simple method suggested by me is quite correct and acceptable by classes and masses. > with thanks & best regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > > Mon, October 19, 2009 5:33:08 PM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > Dear Misra ji, > > I think the member asked for " traditional methods " not KP isnt it. > > u can add KP also after that and it is up to him/her to choose what they want. > > the cluse from Nashta jataka are many so the member must find it, test them > > Prashant > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> > > Cc: Sureshbabuag; Kerala_vedic_ astrlogy > Mon, October 19, 2009 7:51:23 AM > Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > Respected Sri Prasant Pandey Ji,Vattem Krishnan Ji,Gopu Ji,Suresh Babu Ji, & Seniors,Please tell me birth time rectification traditional astrology method with details if any.For example I know my incorrect birth time 8:15AM,POB-BASTI (U.P).DOB-20. 04..1959.It is very necessary for classes and masses. > with thanks & regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 respected suresh ji very kind of u to spare time for me.this will surely help me a lot. god bless u. karuna ________________________________ Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag Wed, October 28, 2009 9:00:42 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear Karan Kumari, I feel the correct time of birth is 4:43:00 AM. This is as per Chitra Paksha Ayanamsa (Lahiri). Between the time gap you had mentioned 4:25 to 4:45, there could be three timmings 4:23:00AM. 4:36:00AM and 4:43:00AM, Out of these, I tend to select 4:43:00AM as the correct time. There could be few seconds upto 27sec which is immaterial for general use. The logic & reasoning is very complex & elaborate. However, As shree krishna ji has stated, it doesn't matter much in practical astrology. Ultimately it all boils down to real life, grace of god. I hope this helps you. , Karan Kumari <architakhera@ ...> wrote: > > respected vattem ji > i respect your thoughts but here something of urgent importance is needed. > he has tried to commit suicide twice and as a wife nobody can understand what > i am going through.acc to many his right time is required i even gave money > to rectify his time on net but the person cheated.so plz forgive if any mistake > i have done. > vattem ji u have always helped and solved my problems in many ways plz > if u do not mind i like to donate one beautiful shaligram shila to u .if u believe > or trust in LORD HARI plz let me know as it can ge given only to vaishanv. > thank you > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> > > Sun, October 25, 2009 12:17:38 PM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > Hello Archita Ji, > I have seen you taking keen interest in jyotish for the past couple of moths.By this time analysis/prediction s got for you and for ther known people to you must have some comprehensive idea of Astrology. > we know in Jyotish,there are different apparoches and each one as per his interst puruses Jyotish and talk sevral things. > In fact when you want to really test the accuarcy of dates of birth it is really difficult to say how much accuarates it is. > As jyotish.Astrologer it is necessary that details are correct to the extent mentioned through his own method with reference to the issue raise. > None of present Astrologer cast horoscopes and give analysis .All of us use softwares and each softwres has it's own whether in ayanamsa or some other calculation of dasa itself. having definete influnce on results/events in life. > By going for rectification or so called accurate time of birth does not really serve any great purpose.It is therfore good to stick to accpeted methods of mother informing/recording birth time or others noting it and making it official.Might also be knowing even Obama; time of birth is also not the one as on official records.But no body suggested /worked out but made predictions based on declared time.The mothod necessitating for corrections is only a waywordness. After accurate birth time no body can dictate the kind of events/happens that can occur/take place. > Late Shri B.V.Raman specifically mentions invariably " except creator Brahma can say eith certainity what will definetely happen.? > Please be methodical and try to increase/enhance Astrological awareness only byperforming yourself and leaving the results to Almighty. > In any case please read Chapter xxxviii of Hindu Predictive AStrology to know when and how the necesity for birth time rectification is needed. > Also we have a group of Timing of Events following KAS also check timing of birth and give prediction. > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > wrote: > > Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 1:42 PM > > > > respected suresh ji > plz take your time but plz do reply when u free to give ur precious time. i am posting > his birth details if any more details needed plz inform. > his dob 17 oct 1980 > place is jullundhar/jalandha r > time is 4:25 to 4:45 am > thank you very much > karuna > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > > > Sat, October 24, 2009 11:02:34 PM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > Dear Karan, > > I shall try to do it. pls give me some time & post the details. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > > @ .. com > Sat, October 24, 2009 1:30:17 PM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > suresh ji i again request to reply. > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > > > Fri, October 23, 2009 11:12:40 PM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > suresh ji can u plz do birth time correction of my huasband i request u with my hands joined.plz > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > > > Tue, October 20, 2009 10:20:50 AM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > Dear Dhirendranath Ji, > > //Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method // > > What do you find " philisophical " in " my " method? > > And does what " Shri Suresh ji " believes really matters?. > > Any sane Astrologer will cross check any aspect to confirm factors just like any other science and that is exactly what is meant by elaboration and again mentioned by Shri Mrityunjay Tripaty also. > > Perhaps you may not be aware of the old saying " short cuts will cut you short " and that Astrology in particular does not always work on mathematical lines alone and that is what makes it complicated and the reason all the scientist of the world declare that it is not science at all. > > What you want to believe or not to believe is not my up to me. You asked for traditional method and I gave you just that. > > What is this sub sub word you & Kp are using ? doesn't it have a traditional nomenclature? Try using that nomenclature and you will find that you are standing on traditional ground. > > Nakshtradhipathy > Rashyadhipathy > Navamsadhipathy > Dwadasamsadhipathy > > and so on.... > > It is mandatory to spell the name of Rishi, its devatha, its chandas when one starts japa of a mantra. This is to remember who devised that mantra and to declare that It was not created by " me " and to lay the credits where it rightfully belongs. > > This is Indian Tradition. > > And what Krishna Moorthy nor his followers seems be to doing. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> > > Tue, October 20, 2009 8:26:02 AM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > Respected Sri Prashant Kumar Pandey Ji,Sadar Namasthe,I asked birth time rectification method because so many people were asking me their correct birth time.I knew one method and I wanted to check my own method with traditional astrological method.But I found that method suggested by Sri Suresh Ji ,Tripathi Ji & others are quite lengthy.Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method and Sri Tripathi Ji Suggested me to check the life events where as to analyse only date of marriage,birth of male and female baby,date of joining of service/Job is quite impossible.So date of events can't be checked by any one and in my opinion it is possible for Siddh yogis who have Paranormal Powers.To rectify birth time I check Sub lord and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant and Sub lord of Ascendant Must Match with Star lord of Moon and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant must match with Sub lord of Moon and to adjust this I have to work and add or subtract few seconds > or minutes from the given birth of native.I found this method applicable and correct in every case.Now a days I am adding this thing with my analysis if given birth time of native is incorrect.I am not well read person so I like 2*2=4 and I don't apply Coordinate Geometry or Calculus to rectify birth time.I hope that Very simple method suggested by me is quite correct and acceptable by classes and masses. > with thanks & best regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > > Mon, October 19, 2009 5:33:08 PM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > Dear Misra ji, > > I think the member asked for " traditional methods " not KP isnt it.. > > u can add KP also after that and it is up to him/her to choose what they want. > > the cluse from Nashta jataka are many so the member must find it, test them > > Prashant > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> > > Cc: Sureshbabuag; Kerala_vedic_ astrlogy > Mon, October 19, 2009 7:51:23 AM > Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > Respected Sri Prasant Pandey Ji,Vattem Krishnan Ji,Gopu Ji,Suresh Babu Ji, & Seniors,Please tell me birth time rectification traditional astrology method with details if any.For example I know my incorrect birth time 8:15AM,POB-BASTI (U.P).DOB-20. 04..1959.It is very necessary for classes and masses. > with thanks & regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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