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Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Dear Vinay Jha, I must congradulate and thank you for this bold attempt. There are three parts in this story. 1) The general sentiment for the day (Though only given upto 13:56) is down and has been proven correct. 2) I day trading each swing is important. The gross mistake in this regard is the Upward trend given by you upto 11:56AM which never happened and it has all the down with only minor swings. The danger is if I depend on this chart, I will be expecting a rise in moring say at about 10:15AM and trade where are it never came up. 3) The second part of the day is not provided which in reality could swing either ways (though tody it did not happen). This is only to point the problem and never to discourage you. pls take it in a good sense. and to help you further in your search. I am aware that it is very difficult and the attempt itself should be welcomed. with warm regards A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > To All, > > A File BSE_20Oct09.jpg has been uploaded in the files section of > this group, which contains graphical forecast of Bombay Stock Exchange > for today. > > -Vinay Jha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Suresh Ji, I needed more time to do the job, and in spite of all the hurry I could prepare a graph only upto 13:54 PM only, because I had to post the prediction by 10 am. Due to this hurry, I comitted some errors in evaluating the kundalis, because making and judging 21 kundalis within a short time and then comparing them with each other to make a graph is a tremendous task. It is really a bold attempt, for the first time in my life. Yet, I am encouraged with the results, some of which are overlooked by you because you do not possess the data I worked upon. It is not your fault, but a result of near impossibility of posting a large file containing so many kundalis in files section. I am posting a post-event comparison of SENSEX and my projection in the files section within half an hour. The comparison must be FAIR, which I need to explain : I made distinct kundalis programmatically whenever any planet changed a house in horoscopes of Bombay. I neglected to make separate kundalis when lordshiops and raashis of bhaavas changed, which explains the differences in real graph with my projection. But if real graph is smoothed so as to match with the timings of my projections (ie, timings of planetary transitions), then a FAIR comparison can be made. Such a comparison is being uploaded in the files section shortly. At present, I am preparing a scale for determining the magnitude of change in graph due to planetary influences, and as far as I know it is one of the most difficult tasks in astrology. My past experience in rain forecasting is helping me in quatification of planetary influences. My aim is to help real Day Traders and if you read the post even comparison soon to be posted by me, you will believe that I am moving in the right direction, in spite of some errors due to hurry. The astrological data I possess is tremendously powerful and accurate, the shortcoming is mine : I am not able to process so much data within a day. I am improving my software, and I hope to present better forecasts within a few days. <<<The gross mistake in this regard is the Upward trend given by you upto 11:56AM which never happened and it has all the down with only minor swings. The danger is if I depend on this chart, I will be expecting a rise in moring say at about 10:15AM and trade where are it never came up.>>> My graph really started from 10:03 AM (10:02:59), and the upward swing you speak of lasted till 12:05:47 PM and not 11:56 AM (11:56 AM is due to BSE's scaling but my timings are due to planetary transitions). Between 10:03 AM and 12:06 PM, SENSEX moved from 17326 to ~17394 in fact and ~17415 in my projection. Actual upswing was +68 while I projected +89. You should not say the " upswing ... never happened " . Secondly, one should not select ANY point of my projection for making comparison with ANY other point. Points of planetary transitions should be used for this purpose. I had given such timings in my earlier forecasts of SENSEX (Oct 15 and 16), which in the 20 Oct graph such cardinal points can be discerned from the curve itself. I must write an explanatory note with every forecast to remove such confusions. I hope your doubts will evaporate when you read the next file (BSE_20Oct09_Analysis.doc). Thanks for your interest. -VJ ==================== ===== , " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Dear Vinay Jha, > > I must congradulate and thank you for this bold attempt. > > > There are three parts in this story. > > 1) The general sentiment for the day (Though only given upto 13:56) is down and has been proven correct. > 2) I day trading each swing is important. The gross mistake in this regard is the Upward trend given by you upto 11:56AM which never happened and it has all the down with only minor swings. The danger is if I depend on this chart, I will be expecting a rise in moring say at about 10:15AM and trade where are it never came up. > 3) The second part of the day is not provided which in reality could swing either ways (though tody it did not happen). > > This is only to point the problem and never to discourage you. pls take it in a good sense. and to help you further in your search. > > I am aware that it is very difficult and the attempt itself should be welcomed. > > > with warm regards > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > > > > , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote: > > > > To All, > > > > A File BSE_20Oct09.jpg has been uploaded in the files section of > > this group, which contains graphical forecast of Bombay Stock Exchange > > for today. > > > > -Vinay Jha > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Dear Vinay jha, What I wrote was meant to be discouragement or degradation of your efforts. Even if you had made a mistake even after getting enough time, it won't matter much as we know the work is tedious and it is human to commit mistakes. That said, what I wrote on the swings is looking at the graphs of Bse & the one posted by you. I was actually happy to see the general trend to correct as posted by you, irrespective of the inbetween swings. That itself is a good work considering the odds. So congrats and definetly I shall go through your article. My only complaint is I am not getting enough time to work on this. regards A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ VJha <vinayjhaa16 Tue, October 20, 2009 7:40:37 PM Re: BSE Share Price Index Forecast for 20 Oct 2009 Suresh Ji, I needed more time to do the job, and in spite of all the hurry I could prepare a graph only upto 13:54 PM only, because I had to post the prediction by 10 am. Due to this hurry, I comitted some errors in evaluating the kundalis, because making and judging 21 kundalis within a short time and then comparing them with each other to make a graph is a tremendous task. It is really a bold attempt, for the first time in my life. Yet, I am encouraged with the results, some of which are overlooked by you because you do not possess the data I worked upon. It is not your fault, but a result of near impossibility of posting a large file containing so many kundalis in files section. I am posting a post-event comparison of SENSEX and my projection in the files section within half an hour. The comparison must be FAIR, which I need to explain : I made distinct kundalis programmatically whenever any planet changed a house in horoscopes of Bombay. I neglected to make separate kundalis when lordshiops and raashis of bhaavas changed, which explains the differences in real graph with my projection. But if real graph is smoothed so as to match with the timings of my projections (ie, timings of planetary transitions) , then a FAIR comparison can be made. Such a comparison is being uploaded in the files section shortly. At present, I am preparing a scale for determining the magnitude of change in graph due to planetary influences, and as far as I know it is one of the most difficult tasks in astrology. My past experience in rain forecasting is helping me in quatification of planetary influences. My aim is to help real Day Traders and if you read the post even comparison soon to be posted by me, you will believe that I am moving in the right direction, in spite of some errors due to hurry. The astrological data I possess is tremendously powerful and accurate, the shortcoming is mine : I am not able to process so much data within a day. I am improving my software, and I hope to present better forecasts within a few days. <<<The gross mistake in this regard is the Upward trend given by you upto 11:56AM which never happened and it has all the down with only minor swings. The danger is if I depend on this chart, I will be expecting a rise in moring say at about 10:15AM and trade where are it never came up.>>> My graph really started from 10:03 AM (10:02:59), and the upward swing you speak of lasted till 12:05:47 PM and not 11:56 AM (11:56 AM is due to BSE's scaling but my timings are due to planetary transitions) . Between 10:03 AM and 12:06 PM, SENSEX moved from 17326 to ~17394 in fact and ~17415 in my projection. Actual upswing was +68 while I projected +89. You should not say the " upswing ... never happened " . Secondly, one should not select ANY point of my projection for making comparison with ANY other point. Points of planetary transitions should be used for this purpose. I had given such timings in my earlier forecasts of SENSEX (Oct 15 and 16), which in the 20 Oct graph such cardinal points can be discerned from the curve itself. I must write an explanatory note with every forecast to remove such confusions. I hope your doubts will evaporate when you read the next file (BSE_20Oct09_ Analysis. doc). Thanks for your interest. -VJ ============ ======== ===== , " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Vinay Jha, > > I must congradulate and thank you for this bold attempt. > > > There are three parts in this story. > > 1) The general sentiment for the day (Though only given upto 13:56) is down and has been proven correct. > 2) I day trading each swing is important. The gross mistake in this regard is the Upward trend given by you upto 11:56AM which never happened and it has all the down with only minor swings. The danger is if I depend on this chart, I will be expecting a rise in moring say at about 10:15AM and trade where are it never came up. > 3) The second part of the day is not provided which in reality could swing either ways (though tody it did not happen). > > This is only to point the problem and never to discourage you. pls take it in a good sense. and to help you further in your search. > > I am aware that it is very difficult and the attempt itself should be welcomed. > > > with warm regards > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > > > > , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote: > > > > To All, > > > > A File BSE_20Oct09. jpg has been uploaded in the files section of > > this group, which contains graphical forecast of Bombay Stock Exchange > > for today. > > > > -Vinay Jha > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 To All : A file " BSE_20Oct09_Analysis.doc " is uploaded in the files section of this group, which explains the good and bad aspects of this forecast made today at 10 am. -Vinay Jha ===================== ===== , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Dear Vinay jha, > > What I wrote was meant to be discouragement or degradation of your efforts. Even if you had made a mistake even after getting enough time, it won't matter much as we know the work is tedious and it is human to commit mistakes. > > That said, what I wrote on the swings is looking at the graphs of Bse & the one posted by you. > > I was actually happy to see the general trend to correct as posted by you, irrespective of the inbetween swings. That itself is a good work considering the odds. > > So congrats and definetly I shall go through your article. My only complaint is I am not getting enough time to work on this. > > > regards > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ > VJha vinayjhaa16 > > Tue, October 20, 2009 7:40:37 PM > Re: BSE Share Price Index Forecast for 20 Oct 2009 > > > Suresh Ji, > > I needed more time to do the job, and in spite of all the hurry I could > prepare a graph only upto 13:54 PM only, because I had to post the > prediction by 10 am. > > Due to this hurry, I comitted some errors in evaluating the kundalis, > because making and judging 21 kundalis within a short time and then > comparing them with each other to make a graph is a tremendous task. It > is really a bold attempt, for the first time in my life. > > Yet, I am encouraged with the results, some of which are overlooked by > you because you do not possess the data I worked upon. It is not your > fault, but a result of near impossibility of posting a large file > containing so many kundalis in files section. > > I am posting a post-event comparison of SENSEX and my projection in the > files section within half an hour. The comparison must be FAIR, which I > need to explain : > > I made distinct kundalis programmatically whenever any planet changed a > house in horoscopes of Bombay. I neglected to make separate kundalis > when lordshiops and raashis of bhaavas changed, which explains the > differences in real graph with my projection. But if real graph is > smoothed so as to match with the timings of my projections (ie, timings > of planetary transitions) , then a FAIR comparison can be made. Such a > comparison is being uploaded in the files section shortly. > > At present, I am preparing a scale for determining the magnitude of > change in graph due to planetary influences, and as far as I know it is > one of the most difficult tasks in astrology. My past experience in rain > forecasting is helping me in quatification of planetary influences. My > aim is to help real Day Traders and if you read the post even comparison > soon to be posted by me, you will believe that I am moving in the right > direction, in spite of some errors due to hurry. The astrological data I > possess is tremendously powerful and accurate, the shortcoming is mine : > I am not able to process so much data within a day. I am improving my > software, and I hope to present better forecasts within a few days. > > <<<The gross mistake in this regard is the Upward trend given by you > upto 11:56AM which never happened and it has all the down with only > minor swings. The danger is if I depend on this chart, I will be > expecting a rise in moring say at about 10:15AM and trade where are it > never came up.>>> > > My graph really started from 10:03 AM (10:02:59), and the upward swing > you speak of lasted till 12:05:47 PM and not 11:56 AM (11:56 AM is due > to BSE's scaling but my timings are due to planetary transitions) . > Between 10:03 AM and 12:06 PM, SENSEX moved from 17326 to ~17394 in > fact and ~17415 in my projection. Actual upswing was +68 while I > projected +89. You should not say the " upswing ... never happened " . > > Secondly, one should not select ANY point of my projection for making > comparison with ANY other point. Points of planetary transitions should > be used for this purpose. I had given such timings in my earlier > forecasts of SENSEX (Oct 15 and 16), which in the 20 Oct graph such > cardinal points can be discerned from the curve itself. I must write an > explanatory note with every forecast to remove such confusions. I hope > your doubts will evaporate when you read the next file > (BSE_20Oct09_ Analysis. doc). > > Thanks for your interest. > > -VJ > ============ ======== ===== > > , " Suresh Babu " > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Vinay Jha, > > > > I must congradulate and thank you for this bold attempt. > > > > > > There are three parts in this story. > > > > 1) The general sentiment for the day (Though only given upto 13:56) is > down and has been proven correct. > > 2) I day trading each swing is important. The gross mistake in this > regard is the Upward trend given by you upto 11:56AM which never > happened and it has all the down with only minor swings. The danger is > if I depend on this chart, I will be expecting a rise in moring say at > about 10:15AM and trade where are it never came up. > > 3) The second part of the day is not provided which in reality could > swing either ways (though tody it did not happen). > > > > This is only to point the problem and never to discourage you. pls > take it in a good sense. and to help you further in your search. > > > > I am aware that it is very difficult and the attempt itself should be > welcomed. > > > > > > with warm regards > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > > > > > > > > > , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote: > > > > > > To All, > > > > > > A File BSE_20Oct09. jpg has been uploaded in the files > section of > > > this group, which contains graphical forecast of Bombay Stock > Exchange > > > for today. > > > > > > -Vinay Jha > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Dear Vinay jha, That surely was good work for a single person to handle and you have illustraded the mistakes as well. I hope you get it better next time, I mean in few days time. Even the best of economist go wrong on predictions. so don't worry. Keep up the good work. regards A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. ________________________________ VJha <vinayjhaa16 Tue, October 20, 2009 8:34:19 PM Re: BSE Share Price Index Forecast for 20 Oct 2009 To All : A file " BSE_20Oct09_ Analysis. doc " is uploaded in the files section of this group, which explains the good and bad aspects of this forecast made today at 10 am. -Vinay Jha ============ ========= ===== , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Vinay jha, > > What I wrote was meant to be discouragement or degradation of your efforts. Even if you had made a mistake even after getting enough time, it won't matter much as we know the work is tedious and it is human to commit mistakes. > > That said, what I wrote on the swings is looking at the graphs of Bse & the one posted by you. > > I was actually happy to see the general trend to correct as posted by you, irrespective of the inbetween swings. That itself is a good work considering the odds. > > So congrats and definetly I shall go through your article. My only complaint is I am not getting enough time to work on this. > > > regards > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ > VJha vinayjhaa16@ ... > > Tue, October 20, 2009 7:40:37 PM > Re: BSE Share Price Index Forecast for 20 Oct 2009 > > > Suresh Ji, > > I needed more time to do the job, and in spite of all the hurry I could > prepare a graph only upto 13:54 PM only, because I had to post the > prediction by 10 am. > > Due to this hurry, I comitted some errors in evaluating the kundalis, > because making and judging 21 kundalis within a short time and then > comparing them with each other to make a graph is a tremendous task. It > is really a bold attempt, for the first time in my life. > > Yet, I am encouraged with the results, some of which are overlooked by > you because you do not possess the data I worked upon. It is not your > fault, but a result of near impossibility of posting a large file > containing so many kundalis in files section. > > I am posting a post-event comparison of SENSEX and my projection in the > files section within half an hour. The comparison must be FAIR, which I > need to explain : > > I made distinct kundalis programmatically whenever any planet changed a > house in horoscopes of Bombay. I neglected to make separate kundalis > when lordshiops and raashis of bhaavas changed, which explains the > differences in real graph with my projection. But if real graph is > smoothed so as to match with the timings of my projections (ie, timings > of planetary transitions) , then a FAIR comparison can be made. Such a > comparison is being uploaded in the files section shortly. > > At present, I am preparing a scale for determining the magnitude of > change in graph due to planetary influences, and as far as I know it is > one of the most difficult tasks in astrology. My past experience in rain > forecasting is helping me in quatification of planetary influences. My > aim is to help real Day Traders and if you read the post even comparison > soon to be posted by me, you will believe that I am moving in the right > direction, in spite of some errors due to hurry. The astrological data I > possess is tremendously powerful and accurate, the shortcoming is mine : > I am not able to process so much data within a day. I am improving my > software, and I hope to present better forecasts within a few days. > > <<<The gross mistake in this regard is the Upward trend given by you > upto 11:56AM which never happened and it has all the down with only > minor swings. The danger is if I depend on this chart, I will be > expecting a rise in moring say at about 10:15AM and trade where are it > never came up.>>> > > My graph really started from 10:03 AM (10:02:59), and the upward swing > you speak of lasted till 12:05:47 PM and not 11:56 AM (11:56 AM is due > to BSE's scaling but my timings are due to planetary transitions) . > Between 10:03 AM and 12:06 PM, SENSEX moved from 17326 to ~17394 in > fact and ~17415 in my projection. Actual upswing was +68 while I > projected +89. You should not say the " upswing ... never happened " . > > Secondly, one should not select ANY point of my projection for making > comparison with ANY other point. Points of planetary transitions should > be used for this purpose. I had given such timings in my earlier > forecasts of SENSEX (Oct 15 and 16), which in the 20 Oct graph such > cardinal points can be discerned from the curve itself. I must write an > explanatory note with every forecast to remove such confusions. I hope > your doubts will evaporate when you read the next file > (BSE_20Oct09_ Analysis. doc). > > Thanks for your interest. > > -VJ > ============ ======== ===== > > , " Suresh Babu " > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Vinay Jha, > > > > I must congradulate and thank you for this bold attempt. > > > > > > There are three parts in this story. > > > > 1) The general sentiment for the day (Though only given upto 13:56) is > down and has been proven correct. > > 2) I day trading each swing is important. The gross mistake in this > regard is the Upward trend given by you upto 11:56AM which never > happened and it has all the down with only minor swings. The danger is > if I depend on this chart, I will be expecting a rise in moring say at > about 10:15AM and trade where are it never came up. > > 3) The second part of the day is not provided which in reality could > swing either ways (though tody it did not happen). > > > > This is only to point the problem and never to discourage you. pls > take it in a good sense. and to help you further in your search. > > > > I am aware that it is very difficult and the attempt itself should be > welcomed. > > > > > > with warm regards > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > > > > > > > > > , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote: > > > > > > To All, > > > > > > A File BSE_20Oct09. jpg has been uploaded in the files > section of > > > this group, which contains graphical forecast of Bombay Stock > Exchange > > > for today. > > > > > > -Vinay Jha > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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