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To all :

 

The graphical forecast of stock prices of All Companies for Bombay Stock

Exchange for today has been uploaded at the bottom of following web page

under filename " BSE_21Oct09.jpg " :

 

<http://kundalee.wikidot.com/> http://kundalee.wikidot.com/

<http://kundalee.wikidot.com/>

 

-Vinay Jha

====================== ==

 

 

 

 

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Dear Vinay jha,

 

When did you post the second graph? It seems to reflect the days events much

better?

 

The first graph though reflected the end of the day result correctly, the

morning session was way out of mark. Though it went slightly high two times, the

quantification you applied was very high? went as high as 17400?.

 

Where you able to understand the problem?

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> To all :

>

> The graphical forecast of stock prices of All Companies for Bombay Stock

> Exchange for today has been uploaded at the bottom of following web page

> under filename " BSE_21Oct09.jpg " :

>

> <http://kundalee.wikidot.com/> http://kundalee.wikidot.com/

> <http://kundalee.wikidot.com/>

>

> -Vinay Jha

> ====================== ==

>

>

>

>

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Shenoy ji,

 

Second graph contains only one notable difference with respect to the

first graph, but this difference was important which I initially

overlooked due to hurry : mutual lordship relation between debilitated

Moon and Mars today made the Vipreet Rajyoga of debilitated Mars in 8th

house defunct which I overlooked earlier. Yesterday, this Vipreet Rajyog

worked because Moon was neither debilitated nor related to Mars.

 

This single factor gave an inverted graph for 39th horoscope (from 10:01

am to 10:21 am) : the line between 39th and 40th points was uopward

in first graph which I corrected in the second file. First file gave +50

points upswing for this single horoscope lasting 20 minutes, while

second file gave -60 points downswing : therefore first graph was +110

points higher than second graph for the entire remaining day !! If you

copy the first file and paste it upon second file in Adobe Photoshop

with same scaling and make the 40th point coincide, you will find that

minor changes were made by me in the second file : the only major change

was correction of 39th horoscope. I am uploading such a combined file

( BSE_21Oct09_Analysis.psd ) at same website

http://kundalee.wikidot.com/ for your scrutiny, which also contains

actual SENSEX as well as normalized SENSEX in thich green line to tally

with the time segments of my projections.

 

The projected graph of second file tallies amazingly with the normalized

SENSEX graph from 39th to 50th chart, which is a rare feat in

astrology. Only the 39th segment was corrected, all other segments of

first file had either no or neglible corrections in the second attempt.

If you forget the second file and compare the first file with normalized

SENSEX with -110 points downgrading after 39th segment, you will find

very high correspondence upto 50th segment.

 

After 50th segment, I used my 12- hour software to project the overall

performance, and hurried over the segmental analysis due to time

constraints which I could not revise even in the second file because I

was adding new features to this software. I am finding it almost

impossible to make forecast for the entire 6 hour working day of BSE due

to time involved. Perhaps it will be better to present only those

segments which are significant and highly reliable, and omit those

segments which require too much of time for analysis and quatification.

Sometimes quantification is almost impossible due to many incongruent

influences operating simultaneously. Hence, I will try to avoid such

segments in future and concentrate only on those segments which require

less time and are easily quantified. This will certainly help in day

trading, because entire day's graph is not needed in day trading. Even

one or two reliable segments per day is enough for day trading, provided

accuracy is guaranteed. By accuracy I do not absolute accuracy in terms

of magnitude, but accuracy in terms of upswing or downswing. With time,

I will try to increase the reliability of magnitude as well.

 

I find it difficult to analyze properly all the 33 charts (25 of Bombay

and 6 national) of one day and compare them one by one with all charts

of previous day : totalling 60 charts per day. It is even more difficult

to work on nearly 150 navamsha charts per six hours, which give rise to

sub-harmonic component of SENSEX. Such a task is beyond the capability

of any individual. My ultimate aim is to present a few reliable segments

per day for day trading, and not the entire graph which is a

time-consuming and complicated job.

 

-Vinay Jha.

======================= ===

, " Suresh Babu "

<sureshbabuag wrote:

>

> Dear Vinay jha,

>

> When did you post the second graph? It seems to reflect the days

events much better?

>

> The first graph though reflected the end of the day result correctly,

the morning session was way out of mark. Though it went slightly high

two times, the quantification you applied was very high? went as high as

17400?.

>

> Where you able to understand the problem?

>

> regards

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

>

>

, " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote:

> >

> > To all :

> >

> > The graphical forecast of stock prices of All Companies for Bombay

Stock

> > Exchange for today has been uploaded at the bottom of following web

page

> > under filename " BSE_21Oct09.jpg " :

> >

> > <http://kundalee.wikidot.com/> http://kundalee.wikidot.com/

> > <http://kundalee.wikidot.com/>

> >

> > -Vinay Jha

> > ====================== ==

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Vinay Ji,

 

Thank you for the explanation. Inspite of errors in computations / assumptions

there is no doubt that it is realy is commendable.

 

The very idea that the effect of movement of planets  & resultant analysis could

be presented in graphical form itself is valid proof of the scientific basis of

astrology.

 

I think you should advance the posting by a day or two so that you shall get

adequate time to study the charts. What I mean is you don't have to post

tommorrow's chart but 2 or 3 after. This will give you enough time to study and

make corrections as well.

 

Yes, as you said a few major swings will do for starters and general trend.

Don't have to post continues graph.

 

This is because, the swings both & down gives oppurtunity if right and losses if

wrong.

 

Today, there are 6 trade oppurtunities & atleast  few of them could be

practicaly used to make reasonable profits.

 

1) Sell(short) at 10:40AM - Buy at lower price at 11:40AM

2) Sell (short) at 14:00PM - Buy at any time later

 

Those who are tracking individual stocks can use this info to make enough

profits.

Another interesting aspect is that Midcap sensex did very well today. For a

small trader increase in Midcap & smallcap stocks is far better due to most of

them having very less share value and hence could buy more quantity with the

same investments. Even a difference of Rs 2/- can bring reasonable profits for

small investors.

  

So as you mentioned even a few major swings in a day is very good.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.  

 

  

 

 

 

 

________________________________

VJha <vinayjhaa16

 

Wed, October 21, 2009 7:50:20 PM

Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

 

 

Shenoy ji,

 

Second graph contains only one notable difference with respect to the

first graph, but this difference was important which I initially

overlooked due to hurry : mutual lordship relation between debilitated

Moon and Mars today made the Vipreet Rajyoga of debilitated Mars in 8th

house defunct which I overlooked earlier. Yesterday, this Vipreet Rajyog

worked because Moon was neither debilitated nor related to Mars.

 

This single factor gave an inverted graph for 39th horoscope (from 10:01

am to 10:21 am) : the line between 39th and 40th points was uopward

in first graph which I corrected in the second file. First file gave +50

points upswing for this single horoscope lasting 20 minutes, while

second file gave -60 points downswing : therefore first graph was +110

points higher than second graph for the entire remaining day !! If you

copy the first file and paste it upon second file in Adobe Photoshop

with same scaling and make the 40th point coincide, you will find that

minor changes were made by me in the second file : the only major change

was correction of 39th horoscope. I am uploading such a combined file

( BSE_21Oct09_ Analysis. psd ) at same website

http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ for your scrutiny, which also contains

actual SENSEX as well as normalized SENSEX in thich green line to tally

with the time segments of my projections.

 

The projected graph of second file tallies amazingly with the normalized

SENSEX graph from 39th to 50th chart, which is a rare feat in

astrology. Only the 39th segment was corrected, all other segments of

first file had either no or neglible corrections in the second attempt.

If you forget the second file and compare the first file with normalized

SENSEX with -110 points downgrading after 39th segment, you will find

very high correspondence upto 50th segment.

 

After 50th segment, I used my 12- hour software to project the overall

performance, and hurried over the segmental analysis due to time

constraints which I could not revise even in the second file because I

was adding new features to this software. I am finding it almost

impossible to make forecast for the entire 6 hour working day of BSE due

to time involved. Perhaps it will be better to present only those

segments which are significant and highly reliable, and omit those

segments which require too much of time for analysis and quatification.

Sometimes quantification is almost impossible due to many incongruent

influences operating simultaneously. Hence, I will try to avoid such

segments in future and concentrate only on those segments which require

less time and are easily quantified. This will certainly help in day

trading, because entire day's graph is not needed in day trading. Even

one or two reliable segments per day is enough for day trading, provided

accuracy is guaranteed. By accuracy I do not absolute accuracy in terms

of magnitude, but accuracy in terms of upswing or downswing. With time,

I will try to increase the reliability of magnitude as well.

 

I find it difficult to analyze properly all the 33 charts (25 of Bombay

and 6 national) of one day and compare them one by one with all charts

of previous day : totalling 60 charts per day. It is even more difficult

to work on nearly 150 navamsha charts per six hours, which give rise to

sub-harmonic component of SENSEX. Such a task is beyond the capability

of any individual. My ultimate aim is to present a few reliable segments

per day for day trading, and not the entire graph which is a

time-consuming and complicated job.

 

-Vinay Jha.

============ ========= == ===

, " Suresh Babu "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Vinay jha,

>

> When did you post the second graph? It seems to reflect the days

events much better?

>

> The first graph though reflected the end of the day result correctly,

the morning session was way out of mark. Though it went slightly high

two times, the quantification you applied was very high? went as high as

17400?.

>

> Where you able to understand the problem?

>

> regards

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

>

>

, " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote:

> >

> > To all :

> >

> > The graphical forecast of stock prices of All Companies for Bombay

Stock

> > Exchange for today has been uploaded at the bottom of following web

page

> > under filename " BSE_21Oct09. jpg " :

> >

> > <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/> http://kundalee. wikidot.com/

> > <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/>

> >

> > -Vinay Jha

> > ============ ========= = ==

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Shenoy Ji,

 

Upswing at 10:40 am yesterday could not be predicted by me, because I

analyze only main charts and avoid navamsha charts : the latter number

234 per 6 hour and cannot be analyzed by any individual.

 

Yesterday's trading opportunities which were reliably predicted were :

points 38-39 and 47-48, and both gave a total gain of ~60 points out

of 17200, or o.35%. It is no mean gain : if an average daily gain of 35%

is maintained, it will result in a total profit of 257% per year (Rs

100 will become Rs 358) at compound rate!! But both these opportunities

were of very short durations and buying or selling so fast is not easy.

 

Low SENSEX at the end of day yesterday was not a buying opportunity,

because SENSEX will dip down further when the market opens again.

 

Presenting only major swings requires same amount of time in preparing

the forecasts, because unless thge entire graph is prepared one cannot

select major swings, but less reliable portions need to be either

omitted or highlighted.

 

-Vinay Jha

====================== ====

, " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag wrote:

>

> Dear Vinay Ji,

>

> Thank you for the explanation. Inspite of errors in computations /

assumptions there is no doubt that it is realy is commendable.

>

> The very idea that the effect of movement of planets & resultant

analysis could be presented in graphical form itself is valid proof of

the scientific basis of astrology.

>

> I think you should advance the posting by a day or two so that you

shall get adequate time to study the charts. What I mean is you don't

have to post tommorrow's chart but 2 or 3 after. This will give you

enough time to study and make corrections as well.

>

> Yes, as you said a few major swings will do for starters and general

trend. Don't have to post continues graph.

>

> This is because, the swings both & down gives oppurtunity if right and

losses if wrong.

>

> Today, there are 6 trade oppurtunities & atleast few of them could be

practicaly used to make reasonable profits.

>

> 1) Sell(short) at 10:40AM - Buy at lower price at 11:40AM

> 2) Sell (short) at 14:00PM - Buy at any time later

>

> Those who are tracking individual stocks can use this info to make

enough profits.

> Another interesting aspect is that Midcap sensex did very well today.

For a small trader increase in Midcap & smallcap stocks is far better

due to most of them having very less share value and hence could buy

more quantity with the same investments. Even a difference of Rs 2/- can

bring reasonable profits for small investors.

>

> So as you mentioned even a few major swings in a day is very good.

>

> regards

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

________________________________

> VJha vinayjhaa16

>

> Wed, October 21, 2009 7:50:20 PM

> Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

>

>

> Shenoy ji,

>

> Second graph contains only one notable difference with respect to the

> first graph, but this difference was important which I initially

> overlooked due to hurry : mutual lordship relation between debilitated

> Moon and Mars today made the Vipreet Rajyoga of debilitated Mars in

8th

> house defunct which I overlooked earlier. Yesterday, this Vipreet

Rajyog

> worked because Moon was neither debilitated nor related to Mars.

>

> This single factor gave an inverted graph for 39th horoscope (from

10:01

> am to 10:21 am) : the line between 39th and 40th points was uopward

> in first graph which I corrected in the second file. First file gave

+50

> points upswing for this single horoscope lasting 20 minutes, while

> second file gave -60 points downswing : therefore first graph was +110

> points higher than second graph for the entire remaining day !! If you

> copy the first file and paste it upon second file in Adobe Photoshop

> with same scaling and make the 40th point coincide, you will find that

> minor changes were made by me in the second file : the only major

change

> was correction of 39th horoscope. I am uploading such a combined file

> ( BSE_21Oct09_ Analysis. psd ) at same website

> http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ for your scrutiny, which also contains

> actual SENSEX as well as normalized SENSEX in thich green line to

tally

> with the time segments of my projections.

>

> The projected graph of second file tallies amazingly with the

normalized

> SENSEX graph from 39th to 50th chart, which is a rare feat in

> astrology. Only the 39th segment was corrected, all other segments of

> first file had either no or neglible corrections in the second

attempt.

> If you forget the second file and compare the first file with

normalized

> SENSEX with -110 points downgrading after 39th segment, you will find

> very high correspondence upto 50th segment.

>

> After 50th segment, I used my 12- hour software to project the overall

> performance, and hurried over the segmental analysis due to time

> constraints which I could not revise even in the second file because I

> was adding new features to this software. I am finding it almost

> impossible to make forecast for the entire 6 hour working day of BSE

due

> to time involved. Perhaps it will be better to present only those

> segments which are significant and highly reliable, and omit those

> segments which require too much of time for analysis and

quatification.

> Sometimes quantification is almost impossible due to many incongruent

> influences operating simultaneously. Hence, I will try to avoid such

> segments in future and concentrate only on those segments which

require

> less time and are easily quantified. This will certainly help in day

> trading, because entire day's graph is not needed in day trading. Even

> one or two reliable segments per day is enough for day trading,

provided

> accuracy is guaranteed. By accuracy I do not absolute accuracy in

terms

> of magnitude, but accuracy in terms of upswing or downswing. With

time,

> I will try to increase the reliability of magnitude as well.

>

> I find it difficult to analyze properly all the 33 charts (25 of

Bombay

> and 6 national) of one day and compare them one by one with all charts

> of previous day : totalling 60 charts per day. It is even more

difficult

> to work on nearly 150 navamsha charts per six hours, which give rise

to

> sub-harmonic component of SENSEX. Such a task is beyond the capability

> of any individual. My ultimate aim is to present a few reliable

segments

> per day for day trading, and not the entire graph which is a

> time-consuming and complicated job.

>

> -Vinay Jha.

> ============ ========= == ===

> , " Suresh Babu "

> <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vinay jha,

> >

> > When did you post the second graph? It seems to reflect the days

> events much better?

> >

> > The first graph though reflected the end of the day result

correctly,

> the morning session was way out of mark. Though it went slightly high

> two times, the quantification you applied was very high? went as high

as

> 17400?.

> >

> > Where you able to understand the problem?

> >

> > regards

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@

wrote:

> > >

> > > To all :

> > >

> > > The graphical forecast of stock prices of All Companies for Bombay

> Stock

> > > Exchange for today has been uploaded at the bottom of following

web

> page

> > > under filename " BSE_21Oct09. jpg " :

> > >

> > > <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/> http://kundalee. wikidot.com/

> > > <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/>

> > >

> > > -Vinay Jha

> > > ============ ========= = ==

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Dear Vinay ji,

 

It seems you did not get my point fully.

 

What I wrote is about practical trading oppurtunity in the whole day and sure to

bring profits. All others are risky ventures and total gains computed as you

mentioned is only a dream that exists only on an excel sheets and what attracts

novices to this game and makes them loose money.

 

You have metioned correctly about the difficulty of such trades which happens at

short intervals, yet you went ahead and calculated not only the days gain but

years gains as well which is impractical.

 

 //Low SENSEX at the end of day yesterday was not a buying opportunity,

because SENSEX will dip down further when the market opens again.//

 

pls look at what I had mentioned

//2) Sell (short) at 14:00PM - Buy at any time later//

 

it is to sell -short when the prices / index are high and buy at a lower rate.

 

but for this we have to anticipate the rise & falls correctly and where such

graphs helps.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

VJha <vinayjhaa16

 

Thu, October 22, 2009 7:59:50 AM

Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

 

 

Shenoy Ji,

 

Upswing at 10:40 am yesterday could not be predicted by me, because I

analyze only main charts and avoid navamsha charts : the latter number

234 per 6 hour and cannot be analyzed by any individual.

 

Yesterday's trading opportunities which were reliably predicted were :

points 38-39 and 47-48, and both gave a total gain of ~60 points out

of 17200, or o.35%. It is no mean gain : if an average daily gain of 35%

is maintained, it will result in a total profit of 257% per year (Rs

100 will become Rs 358) at compound rate!! But both these opportunities

were of very short durations and buying or selling so fast is not easy.

 

Low SENSEX at the end of day yesterday was not a buying opportunity,

because SENSEX will dip down further when the market opens again.

 

Presenting only major swings requires same amount of time in preparing

the forecasts, because unless thge entire graph is prepared one cannot

select major swings, but less reliable portions need to be either

omitted or highlighted.

 

-Vinay Jha

============ ========= = ====

, " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Vinay Ji,

>

> Thank you for the explanation. Inspite of errors in computations /

assumptions there is no doubt that it is realy is commendable.

>

> The very idea that the effect of movement of planets & resultant

analysis could be presented in graphical form itself is valid proof of

the scientific basis of astrology.

>

> I think you should advance the posting by a day or two so that you

shall get adequate time to study the charts. What I mean is you don't

have to post tommorrow's chart but 2 or 3 after. This will give you

enough time to study and make corrections as well.

>

> Yes, as you said a few major swings will do for starters and general

trend. Don't have to post continues graph.

>

> This is because, the swings both & down gives oppurtunity if right and

losses if wrong.

>

> Today, there are 6 trade oppurtunities & atleast few of them could be

practicaly used to make reasonable profits.

>

> 1) Sell(short) at 10:40AM - Buy at lower price at 11:40AM

> 2) Sell (short) at 14:00PM - Buy at any time later

>

> Those who are tracking individual stocks can use this info to make

enough profits.

> Another interesting aspect is that Midcap sensex did very well today.

For a small trader increase in Midcap & smallcap stocks is far better

due to most of them having very less share value and hence could buy

more quantity with the same investments. Even a difference of Rs 2/- can

bring reasonable profits for small investors.

>

> So as you mentioned even a few major swings in a day is very good.

>

> regards

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

____________ _________ _________ __

> VJha vinayjhaa16@ ...

>

> Wed, October 21, 2009 7:50:20 PM

> Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

>

>

> Shenoy ji,

>

> Second graph contains only one notable difference with respect to the

> first graph, but this difference was important which I initially

> overlooked due to hurry : mutual lordship relation between debilitated

> Moon and Mars today made the Vipreet Rajyoga of debilitated Mars in

8th

> house defunct which I overlooked earlier. Yesterday, this Vipreet

Rajyog

> worked because Moon was neither debilitated nor related to Mars.

>

> This single factor gave an inverted graph for 39th horoscope (from

10:01

> am to 10:21 am) : the line between 39th and 40th points was uopward

> in first graph which I corrected in the second file. First file gave

+50

> points upswing for this single horoscope lasting 20 minutes, while

> second file gave -60 points downswing : therefore first graph was +110

> points higher than second graph for the entire remaining day !! If you

> copy the first file and paste it upon second file in Adobe Photoshop

> with same scaling and make the 40th point coincide, you will find that

> minor changes were made by me in the second file : the only major

change

> was correction of 39th horoscope. I am uploading such a combined file

> ( BSE_21Oct09_ Analysis. psd ) at same website

> http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ for your scrutiny, which also contains

> actual SENSEX as well as normalized SENSEX in thich green line to

tally

> with the time segments of my projections.

>

> The projected graph of second file tallies amazingly with the

normalized

> SENSEX graph from 39th to 50th chart, which is a rare feat in

> astrology. Only the 39th segment was corrected, all other segments of

> first file had either no or neglible corrections in the second

attempt.

> If you forget the second file and compare the first file with

normalized

> SENSEX with -110 points downgrading after 39th segment, you will find

> very high correspondence upto 50th segment.

>

> After 50th segment, I used my 12- hour software to project the overall

> performance, and hurried over the segmental analysis due to time

> constraints which I could not revise even in the second file because I

> was adding new features to this software. I am finding it almost

> impossible to make forecast for the entire 6 hour working day of BSE

due

> to time involved. Perhaps it will be better to present only those

> segments which are significant and highly reliable, and omit those

> segments which require too much of time for analysis and

quatification.

> Sometimes quantification is almost impossible due to many incongruent

> influences operating simultaneously. Hence, I will try to avoid such

> segments in future and concentrate only on those segments which

require

> less time and are easily quantified. This will certainly help in day

> trading, because entire day's graph is not needed in day trading. Even

> one or two reliable segments per day is enough for day trading,

provided

> accuracy is guaranteed. By accuracy I do not absolute accuracy in

terms

> of magnitude, but accuracy in terms of upswing or downswing. With

time,

> I will try to increase the reliability of magnitude as well.

>

> I find it difficult to analyze properly all the 33 charts (25 of

Bombay

> and 6 national) of one day and compare them one by one with all charts

> of previous day : totalling 60 charts per day. It is even more

difficult

> to work on nearly 150 navamsha charts per six hours, which give rise

to

> sub-harmonic component of SENSEX. Such a task is beyond the capability

> of any individual. My ultimate aim is to present a few reliable

segments

> per day for day trading, and not the entire graph which is a

> time-consuming and complicated job.

>

> -Vinay Jha.

> ============ ========= == ===

> , " Suresh Babu "

> <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vinay jha,

> >

> > When did you post the second graph? It seems to reflect the days

> events much better?

> >

> > The first graph though reflected the end of the day result

correctly,

> the morning session was way out of mark. Though it went slightly high

> two times, the quantification you applied was very high? went as high

as

> 17400?.

> >

> > Where you able to understand the problem?

> >

> > regards

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@

wrote:

> > >

> > > To all :

> > >

> > > The graphical forecast of stock prices of All Companies for Bombay

> Stock

> > > Exchange for today has been uploaded at the bottom of following

web

> page

> > > under filename " BSE_21Oct09. jpg " :

> > >

> > > <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ > http://kundalee. wikidot.com/

> > > <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ >

> > >

> > > -Vinay Jha

> > > ============ ========= = ==

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Shenoy Ji,

 

Your points are valid, but I am saying something different which does

not mean I oppose you. Look, I said without any hesitation : " SENSEX

will dip down further when the market opens again. " It proved to be

correct : in spite of 209 points drop in SENSEX yesterday, another 219

points were lost today.

 

-VJ

================= ===

, " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag wrote:

>

> Dear Vinay ji,

>

> It seems you did not get my point fully.

>

> What I wrote is about practical trading oppurtunity in the whole day

and sure to bring profits. All others are risky ventures and total gains

computed as you mentioned is only a dream that exists only on an excel

sheets and what attracts novices to this game and makes them loose

money.

>

> You have metioned correctly about the difficulty of such trades which

happens at short intervals, yet you went ahead and calculated not only

the days gain but years gains as well which is impractical.

>

> //Low SENSEX at the end of day yesterday was not a buying

opportunity,

> because SENSEX will dip down further when the market opens again.//

>

> pls look at what I had mentioned

> //2) Sell (short) at 14:00PM - Buy at any time later//

>

> it is to sell -short when the prices / index are high and buy at a

lower rate.

>

> but for this we have to anticipate the rise & falls correctly and

where such graphs helps.

>

> regards

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

________________________________

> VJha vinayjhaa16

>

> Thu, October 22, 2009 7:59:50 AM

> Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

>

>

> Shenoy Ji,

>

> Upswing at 10:40 am yesterday could not be predicted by me, because I

> analyze only main charts and avoid navamsha charts : the latter number

> 234 per 6 hour and cannot be analyzed by any individual.

>

> Yesterday's trading opportunities which were reliably predicted were :

> points 38-39 and 47-48, and both gave a total gain of ~60 points out

> of 17200, or o.35%. It is no mean gain : if an average daily gain of

35%

> is maintained, it will result in a total profit of 257% per year (Rs

> 100 will become Rs 358) at compound rate!! But both these

opportunities

> were of very short durations and buying or selling so fast is not

easy.

>

> Low SENSEX at the end of day yesterday was not a buying opportunity,

> because SENSEX will dip down further when the market opens again.

>

> Presenting only major swings requires same amount of time in preparing

> the forecasts, because unless thge entire graph is prepared one cannot

> select major swings, but less reliable portions need to be either

> omitted or highlighted.

>

> -Vinay Jha

> ============ ========= = ====

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

> <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vinay Ji,

> >

> > Thank you for the explanation. Inspite of errors in computations /

> assumptions there is no doubt that it is realy is commendable.

> >

> > The very idea that the effect of movement of planets & resultant

> analysis could be presented in graphical form itself is valid proof of

> the scientific basis of astrology.

> >

> > I think you should advance the posting by a day or two so that you

> shall get adequate time to study the charts. What I mean is you don't

> have to post tommorrow's chart but 2 or 3 after. This will give you

> enough time to study and make corrections as well.

> >

> > Yes, as you said a few major swings will do for starters and general

> trend. Don't have to post continues graph.

> >

> > This is because, the swings both & down gives oppurtunity if right

and

> losses if wrong.

> >

> > Today, there are 6 trade oppurtunities & atleast few of them could

be

> practicaly used to make reasonable profits.

> >

> > 1) Sell(short) at 10:40AM - Buy at lower price at 11:40AM

> > 2) Sell (short) at 14:00PM - Buy at any time later

> >

> > Those who are tracking individual stocks can use this info to make

> enough profits.

> > Another interesting aspect is that Midcap sensex did very well

today.

> For a small trader increase in Midcap & smallcap stocks is far better

> due to most of them having very less share value and hence could buy

> more quantity with the same investments. Even a difference of Rs 2/-

can

> bring reasonable profits for small investors.

> >

> > So as you mentioned even a few major swings in a day is very good.

> >

> > regards

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > VJha vinayjhaa16@ ...

> >

> > Wed, October 21, 2009 7:50:20 PM

> > Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

> >

> >

> > Shenoy ji,

> >

> > Second graph contains only one notable difference with respect to

the

> > first graph, but this difference was important which I initially

> > overlooked due to hurry : mutual lordship relation between

debilitated

> > Moon and Mars today made the Vipreet Rajyoga of debilitated Mars in

> 8th

> > house defunct which I overlooked earlier. Yesterday, this Vipreet

> Rajyog

> > worked because Moon was neither debilitated nor related to Mars.

> >

> > This single factor gave an inverted graph for 39th horoscope (from

> 10:01

> > am to 10:21 am) : the line between 39th and 40th points was uopward

> > in first graph which I corrected in the second file. First file gave

> +50

> > points upswing for this single horoscope lasting 20 minutes, while

> > second file gave -60 points downswing : therefore first graph was

+110

> > points higher than second graph for the entire remaining day !! If

you

> > copy the first file and paste it upon second file in Adobe Photoshop

> > with same scaling and make the 40th point coincide, you will find

that

> > minor changes were made by me in the second file : the only major

> change

> > was correction of 39th horoscope. I am uploading such a combined

file

> > ( BSE_21Oct09_ Analysis. psd ) at same website

> > http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ for your scrutiny, which also contains

> > actual SENSEX as well as normalized SENSEX in thich green line to

> tally

> > with the time segments of my projections.

> >

> > The projected graph of second file tallies amazingly with the

> normalized

> > SENSEX graph from 39th to 50th chart, which is a rare feat in

> > astrology. Only the 39th segment was corrected, all other segments

of

> > first file had either no or neglible corrections in the second

> attempt.

> > If you forget the second file and compare the first file with

> normalized

> > SENSEX with -110 points downgrading after 39th segment, you will

find

> > very high correspondence upto 50th segment.

> >

> > After 50th segment, I used my 12- hour software to project the

overall

> > performance, and hurried over the segmental analysis due to time

> > constraints which I could not revise even in the second file because

I

> > was adding new features to this software. I am finding it almost

> > impossible to make forecast for the entire 6 hour working day of BSE

> due

> > to time involved. Perhaps it will be better to present only those

> > segments which are significant and highly reliable, and omit those

> > segments which require too much of time for analysis and

> quatification.

> > Sometimes quantification is almost impossible due to many

incongruent

> > influences operating simultaneously. Hence, I will try to avoid such

> > segments in future and concentrate only on those segments which

> require

> > less time and are easily quantified. This will certainly help in day

> > trading, because entire day's graph is not needed in day trading.

Even

> > one or two reliable segments per day is enough for day trading,

> provided

> > accuracy is guaranteed. By accuracy I do not absolute accuracy in

> terms

> > of magnitude, but accuracy in terms of upswing or downswing. With

> time,

> > I will try to increase the reliability of magnitude as well.

> >

> > I find it difficult to analyze properly all the 33 charts (25 of

> Bombay

> > and 6 national) of one day and compare them one by one with all

charts

> > of previous day : totalling 60 charts per day. It is even more

> difficult

> > to work on nearly 150 navamsha charts per six hours, which give rise

> to

> > sub-harmonic component of SENSEX. Such a task is beyond the

capability

> > of any individual. My ultimate aim is to present a few reliable

> segments

> > per day for day trading, and not the entire graph which is a

> > time-consuming and complicated job.

> >

> > -Vinay Jha.

> > ============ ========= == ===

> > , " Suresh Babu "

> > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vinay jha,

> > >

> > > When did you post the second graph? It seems to reflect the days

> > events much better?

> > >

> > > The first graph though reflected the end of the day result

> correctly,

> > the morning session was way out of mark. Though it went slightly

high

> > two times, the quantification you applied was very high? went as

high

> as

> > 17400?.

> > >

> > > Where you able to understand the problem?

> > >

> > > regards

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > To all :

> > > >

> > > > The graphical forecast of stock prices of All Companies for

Bombay

> > Stock

> > > > Exchange for today has been uploaded at the bottom of following

> web

> > page

> > > > under filename " BSE_21Oct09. jpg " :

> > > >

> > > > <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ > http://kundalee. wikidot.com/

> > > > <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ >

> > > >

> > > > -Vinay Jha

> > > > ============ ========= = ==

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Dear Vinay ji,

 

Absolutly correct. There is no doubt your analysis is very good for the day.

 

I was just pointing to a few inconsistancies so that you can tweak it further.

 

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

 

 

 

 

________________________________

VJha <vinayjhaa16

 

Thu, October 22, 2009 8:23:20 PM

Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

 

 

Shenoy Ji,

 

Your points are valid, but I am saying something different which does

not mean I oppose you. Look, I said without any hesitation : " SENSEX

will dip down further when the market opens again. " It proved to be

correct : in spite of 209 points drop in SENSEX yesterday, another 219

points were lost today.

 

-VJ

============ ===== ===

, " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Vinay ji,

>

> It seems you did not get my point fully.

>

> What I wrote is about practical trading oppurtunity in the whole day

and sure to bring profits. All others are risky ventures and total gains

computed as you mentioned is only a dream that exists only on an excel

sheets and what attracts novices to this game and makes them loose

money.

>

> You have metioned correctly about the difficulty of such trades which

happens at short intervals, yet you went ahead and calculated not only

the days gain but years gains as well which is impractical.

>

> //Low SENSEX at the end of day yesterday was not a buying

opportunity,

> because SENSEX will dip down further when the market opens again.//

>

> pls look at what I had mentioned

> //2) Sell (short) at 14:00PM - Buy at any time later//

>

> it is to sell -short when the prices / index are high and buy at a

lower rate.

>

> but for this we have to anticipate the rise & falls correctly and

where such graphs helps.

>

> regards

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

____________ _________ _________ __

> VJha vinayjhaa16@ ...

>

> Thu, October 22, 2009 7:59:50 AM

> Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

>

>

> Shenoy Ji,

>

> Upswing at 10:40 am yesterday could not be predicted by me, because I

> analyze only main charts and avoid navamsha charts : the latter number

> 234 per 6 hour and cannot be analyzed by any individual.

>

> Yesterday's trading opportunities which were reliably predicted were :

> points 38-39 and 47-48, and both gave a total gain of ~60 points out

> of 17200, or o.35%. It is no mean gain : if an average daily gain of

35%

> is maintained, it will result in a total profit of 257% per year (Rs

> 100 will become Rs 358) at compound rate!! But both these

opportunities

> were of very short durations and buying or selling so fast is not

easy.

>

> Low SENSEX at the end of day yesterday was not a buying opportunity,

> because SENSEX will dip down further when the market opens again.

>

> Presenting only major swings requires same amount of time in preparing

> the forecasts, because unless thge entire graph is prepared one cannot

> select major swings, but less reliable portions need to be either

> omitted or highlighted.

>

> -Vinay Jha

> ============ ========= = ====

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

> <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vinay Ji,

> >

> > Thank you for the explanation. Inspite of errors in computations /

> assumptions there is no doubt that it is realy is commendable.

> >

> > The very idea that the effect of movement of planets & resultant

> analysis could be presented in graphical form itself is valid proof of

> the scientific basis of astrology.

> >

> > I think you should advance the posting by a day or two so that you

> shall get adequate time to study the charts. What I mean is you don't

> have to post tommorrow's chart but 2 or 3 after. This will give you

> enough time to study and make corrections as well.

> >

> > Yes, as you said a few major swings will do for starters and general

> trend. Don't have to post continues graph.

> >

> > This is because, the swings both & down gives oppurtunity if right

and

> losses if wrong.

> >

> > Today, there are 6 trade oppurtunities & atleast few of them could

be

> practicaly used to make reasonable profits.

> >

> > 1) Sell(short) at 10:40AM - Buy at lower price at 11:40AM

> > 2) Sell (short) at 14:00PM - Buy at any time later

> >

> > Those who are tracking individual stocks can use this info to make

> enough profits.

> > Another interesting aspect is that Midcap sensex did very well

today.

> For a small trader increase in Midcap & smallcap stocks is far better

> due to most of them having very less share value and hence could buy

> more quantity with the same investments. Even a difference of Rs 2/-

can

> bring reasonable profits for small investors.

> >

> > So as you mentioned even a few major swings in a day is very good.

> >

> > regards

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > VJha vinayjhaa16@ ...

> >

> > Wed, October 21, 2009 7:50:20 PM

> > Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

> >

> >

> > Shenoy ji,

> >

> > Second graph contains only one notable difference with respect to

the

> > first graph, but this difference was important which I initially

> > overlooked due to hurry : mutual lordship relation between

debilitated

> > Moon and Mars today made the Vipreet Rajyoga of debilitated Mars in

> 8th

> > house defunct which I overlooked earlier. Yesterday, this Vipreet

> Rajyog

> > worked because Moon was neither debilitated nor related to Mars.

> >

> > This single factor gave an inverted graph for 39th horoscope (from

> 10:01

> > am to 10:21 am) : the line between 39th and 40th points was uopward

> > in first graph which I corrected in the second file. First file gave

> +50

> > points upswing for this single horoscope lasting 20 minutes, while

> > second file gave -60 points downswing : therefore first graph was

+110

> > points higher than second graph for the entire remaining day !! If

you

> > copy the first file and paste it upon second file in Adobe Photoshop

> > with same scaling and make the 40th point coincide, you will find

that

> > minor changes were made by me in the second file : the only major

> change

> > was correction of 39th horoscope. I am uploading such a combined

file

> > ( BSE_21Oct09_ Analysis. psd ) at same website

> > http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ for your scrutiny, which also contains

> > actual SENSEX as well as normalized SENSEX in thich green line to

> tally

> > with the time segments of my projections.

> >

> > The projected graph of second file tallies amazingly with the

> normalized

> > SENSEX graph from 39th to 50th chart, which is a rare feat in

> > astrology. Only the 39th segment was corrected, all other segments

of

> > first file had either no or neglible corrections in the second

> attempt.

> > If you forget the second file and compare the first file with

> normalized

> > SENSEX with -110 points downgrading after 39th segment, you will

find

> > very high correspondence upto 50th segment.

> >

> > After 50th segment, I used my 12- hour software to project the

overall

> > performance, and hurried over the segmental analysis due to time

> > constraints which I could not revise even in the second file because

I

> > was adding new features to this software. I am finding it almost

> > impossible to make forecast for the entire 6 hour working day of BSE

> due

> > to time involved. Perhaps it will be better to present only those

> > segments which are significant and highly reliable, and omit those

> > segments which require too much of time for analysis and

> quatification.

> > Sometimes quantification is almost impossible due to many

incongruent

> > influences operating simultaneously. Hence, I will try to avoid such

> > segments in future and concentrate only on those segments which

> require

> > less time and are easily quantified. This will certainly help in day

> > trading, because entire day's graph is not needed in day trading.

Even

> > one or two reliable segments per day is enough for day trading,

> provided

> > accuracy is guaranteed. By accuracy I do not absolute accuracy in

> terms

> > of magnitude, but accuracy in terms of upswing or downswing. With

> time,

> > I will try to increase the reliability of magnitude as well.

> >

> > I find it difficult to analyze properly all the 33 charts (25 of

> Bombay

> > and 6 national) of one day and compare them one by one with all

charts

> > of previous day : totalling 60 charts per day. It is even more

> difficult

> > to work on nearly 150 navamsha charts per six hours, which give rise

> to

> > sub-harmonic component of SENSEX. Such a task is beyond the

capability

> > of any individual. My ultimate aim is to present a few reliable

> segments

> > per day for day trading, and not the entire graph which is a

> > time-consuming and complicated job.

> >

> > -Vinay Jha.

> > ============ ========= == ===

> > , " Suresh Babu "

> > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vinay jha,

> > >

> > > When did you post the second graph? It seems to reflect the days

> > events much better?

> > >

> > > The first graph though reflected the end of the day result

> correctly,

> > the morning session was way out of mark. Though it went slightly

high

> > two times, the quantification you applied was very high? went as

high

> as

> > 17400?.

> > >

> > > Where you able to understand the problem?

> > >

> > > regards

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > To all :

> > > >

> > > > The graphical forecast of stock prices of All Companies for

Bombay

> > Stock

> > > > Exchange for today has been uploaded at the bottom of following

> web

> > page

> > > > under filename " BSE_21Oct09. jpg " :

> > > >

> > > > <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ > http://kundalee. wikidot.com/

> > > > <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ >

> > > >

> > > > -Vinay Jha

> > > > ============ ========= = ==

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Dear Friends,

Financial Astrology the emrging concept requires as indepth assessment of the

markets mainly sharemarkets apart from others .

Me as a just common man chasing my return iam interested to know at the end of

day how my efforts gave me return by way of loss or profit

THE DOWN SLIDE of share markets are contnuously for three days is against hopes

of many Investors both small cap and mid cap

..Reasons are very well known as the country in general has been in a very

difficult situations.of them what matters most is investing climate.Govt have to

gear up for arresting the inflation,control of inflation so that small investor

prepares for risk and is ready to trade in market.Also big Industrialists also

have to change approaches for investmenst and for increased share values.All

these factors together matter a lot for common market.

Proper for guidance to Investors more through moon pahases and other transitory

effects willhave impact only when investors their return is not hampered and the

trading is normal for the survival of small investors.

Present efforts for meanngful Astrological guidnace are yet to be requiring

better parameters and the reason to explain down fall requires proper

astrological state of affairs.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

 

--- On Thu, 10/22/09, VJha <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

 

 

VJha <vinayjhaa16

Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

 

Thursday, October 22, 2009, 10:53 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Shenoy Ji,

 

Your points are valid, but I am saying something different which does

not mean I oppose you. Look, I said without any hesitation : " SENSEX

will dip down further when the market opens again. " It proved to be

correct : in spite of 209 points drop in SENSEX yesterday, another 219

points were lost today.

 

-VJ

============ ===== ===

, " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Vinay ji,

>

> It seems you did not get my point fully.

>

> What I wrote is about practical trading oppurtunity in the whole day

and sure to bring profits. All others are risky ventures and total gains

computed as you mentioned is only a dream that exists only on an excel

sheets and what attracts novices to this game and makes them loose

money.

>

> You have metioned correctly about the difficulty of such trades which

happens at short intervals, yet you went ahead and calculated not only

the days gain but years gains as well which is impractical.

>

> //Low SENSEX at the end of day yesterday was not a buying

opportunity,

> because SENSEX will dip down further when the market opens again.//

>

> pls look at what I had mentioned

> //2) Sell (short) at 14:00PM - Buy at any time later//

>

> it is to sell -short when the prices / index are high and buy at a

lower rate.

>

> but for this we have to anticipate the rise & falls correctly and

where such graphs helps.

>

> regards

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

____________ _________ _________ __

> VJha vinayjhaa16@ ...

>

> Thu, October 22, 2009 7:59:50 AM

> Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

>

>

> Shenoy Ji,

>

> Upswing at 10:40 am yesterday could not be predicted by me, because I

> analyze only main charts and avoid navamsha charts : the latter number

> 234 per 6 hour and cannot be analyzed by any individual.

>

> Yesterday's trading opportunities which were reliably predicted were :

> points 38-39 and 47-48, and both gave a total gain of ~60 points out

> of 17200, or o.35%. It is no mean gain : if an average daily gain of

35%

> is maintained, it will result in a total profit of 257% per year (Rs

> 100 will become Rs 358) at compound rate!! But both these

opportunities

> were of very short durations and buying or selling so fast is not

easy.

>

> Low SENSEX at the end of day yesterday was not a buying opportunity,

> because SENSEX will dip down further when the market opens again.

>

> Presenting only major swings requires same amount of time in preparing

> the forecasts, because unless thge entire graph is prepared one cannot

> select major swings, but less reliable portions need to be either

> omitted or highlighted.

>

> -Vinay Jha

> ============ ========= = ====

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

> <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vinay Ji,

> >

> > Thank you for the explanation. Inspite of errors in computations /

> assumptions there is no doubt that it is realy is commendable.

> >

> > The very idea that the effect of movement of planets & resultant

> analysis could be presented in graphical form itself is valid proof of

> the scientific basis of astrology.

> >

> > I think you should advance the posting by a day or two so that you

> shall get adequate time to study the charts. What I mean is you don't

> have to post tommorrow's chart but 2 or 3 after. This will give you

> enough time to study and make corrections as well.

> >

> > Yes, as you said a few major swings will do for starters and general

> trend. Don't have to post continues graph.

> >

> > This is because, the swings both & down gives oppurtunity if right

and

> losses if wrong.

> >

> > Today, there are 6 trade oppurtunities & atleast few of them could

be

> practicaly used to make reasonable profits.

> >

> > 1) Sell(short) at 10:40AM - Buy at lower price at 11:40AM

> > 2) Sell (short) at 14:00PM - Buy at any time later

> >

> > Those who are tracking individual stocks can use this info to make

> enough profits.

> > Another interesting aspect is that Midcap sensex did very well

today.

> For a small trader increase in Midcap & smallcap stocks is far better

> due to most of them having very less share value and hence could buy

> more quantity with the same investments. Even a difference of Rs 2/-

can

> bring reasonable profits for small investors.

> >

> > So as you mentioned even a few major swings in a day is very good.

> >

> > regards

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > VJha vinayjhaa16@ ...

> >

> > Wed, October 21, 2009 7:50:20 PM

> > Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

> >

> >

> > Shenoy ji,

> >

> > Second graph contains only one notable difference with respect to

the

> > first graph, but this difference was important which I initially

> > overlooked due to hurry : mutual lordship relation between

debilitated

> > Moon and Mars today made the Vipreet Rajyoga of debilitated Mars in

> 8th

> > house defunct which I overlooked earlier. Yesterday, this Vipreet

> Rajyog

> > worked because Moon was neither debilitated nor related to Mars.

> >

> > This single factor gave an inverted graph for 39th horoscope (from

> 10:01

> > am to 10:21 am) : the line between 39th and 40th points was uopward

> > in first graph which I corrected in the second file. First file gave

> +50

> > points upswing for this single horoscope lasting 20 minutes, while

> > second file gave -60 points downswing : therefore first graph was

+110

> > points higher than second graph for the entire remaining day !! If

you

> > copy the first file and paste it upon second file in Adobe Photoshop

> > with same scaling and make the 40th point coincide, you will find

that

> > minor changes were made by me in the second file : the only major

> change

> > was correction of 39th horoscope. I am uploading such a combined

file

> > ( BSE_21Oct09_ Analysis. psd ) at same website

> > http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ for your scrutiny, which also contains

> > actual SENSEX as well as normalized SENSEX in thich green line to

> tally

> > with the time segments of my projections.

> >

> > The projected graph of second file tallies amazingly with the

> normalized

> > SENSEX graph from 39th to 50th chart, which is a rare feat in

> > astrology. Only the 39th segment was corrected, all other segments

of

> > first file had either no or neglible corrections in the second

> attempt.

> > If you forget the second file and compare the first file with

> normalized

> > SENSEX with -110 points downgrading after 39th segment, you will

find

> > very high correspondence upto 50th segment.

> >

> > After 50th segment, I used my 12- hour software to project the

overall

> > performance, and hurried over the segmental analysis due to time

> > constraints which I could not revise even in the second file because

I

> > was adding new features to this software. I am finding it almost

> > impossible to make forecast for the entire 6 hour working day of BSE

> due

> > to time involved. Perhaps it will be better to present only those

> > segments which are significant and highly reliable, and omit those

> > segments which require too much of time for analysis and

> quatification.

> > Sometimes quantification is almost impossible due to many

incongruent

> > influences operating simultaneously. Hence, I will try to avoid such

> > segments in future and concentrate only on those segments which

> require

> > less time and are easily quantified. This will certainly help in day

> > trading, because entire day's graph is not needed in day trading.

Even

> > one or two reliable segments per day is enough for day trading,

> provided

> > accuracy is guaranteed. By accuracy I do not absolute accuracy in

> terms

> > of magnitude, but accuracy in terms of upswing or downswing. With

> time,

> > I will try to increase the reliability of magnitude as well.

> >

> > I find it difficult to analyze properly all the 33 charts (25 of

> Bombay

> > and 6 national) of one day and compare them one by one with all

charts

> > of previous day : totalling 60 charts per day. It is even more

> difficult

> > to work on nearly 150 navamsha charts per six hours, which give rise

> to

> > sub-harmonic component of SENSEX. Such a task is beyond the

capability

> > of any individual. My ultimate aim is to present a few reliable

> segments

> > per day for day trading, and not the entire graph which is a

> > time-consuming and complicated job.

> >

> > -Vinay Jha.

> > ============ ========= == ===

> > , " Suresh Babu "

> > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vinay jha,

> > >

> > > When did you post the second graph? It seems to reflect the days

> > events much better?

> > >

> > > The first graph though reflected the end of the day result

> correctly,

> > the morning session was way out of mark. Though it went slightly

high

> > two times, the quantification you applied was very high? went as

high

> as

> > 17400?.

> > >

> > > Where you able to understand the problem?

> > >

> > > regards

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > To all :

> > > >

> > > > The graphical forecast of stock prices of All Companies for

Bombay

> > Stock

> > > > Exchange for today has been uploaded at the bottom of following

> web

> > page

> > > > under filename " BSE_21Oct09. jpg " :

> > > >

> > > > <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ > http://kundalee. wikidot.com/

> > > > <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ >

> > > >

> > > > -Vinay Jha

> > > > ============ ========= = ==

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Shenoy Ji,

 

See the post-event analysis posted at same Kundalee website. I am finding it

very difficult to analyze all the charts completely, and time constraint is only

one problem, another problem is that some charts are very difficult to quantify

due to large number of diverse influences. Perhaps it is better to neglect such

problematic charts and present only the reliable segments.

 

57 was correct, 56 and 60 were highly inaccurate. Had they been correct, entire

graph would have passed as reasonably good. I checked 56th just now, and found

that the the actual waveform of 56th segment almost exactly replicated the

actual waveform of 56th segment of yesterday, and so did both horoscopes at 56th

segment. There may be difference in scaling between my presentation and BSE's,

but it cannot give rise to so much erroneous plotting. The replication of both

days' waveforms is preceded and folloed with differences in waveforms, hence

slight difference in starting and ending points of segments could give very

different, actually opposite results. Perhaps such differences are due to

navamsha movements which presently I am unable to analyzed in whole day's BSE

analysis, but I am working on this theme too.

 

-VJ

============================ =====

 

 

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag

wrote:

>

> Dear Vinay ji,

>

> Absolutly correct. There is no doubt your analysis is very good for the day.

>

> I was just pointing to a few inconsistancies so that you can tweak it further.

>

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> VJha <vinayjhaa16

>

> Thu, October 22, 2009 8:23:20 PM

> Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

>

>  

> Shenoy Ji,

>

> Your points are valid, but I am saying something different which does

> not mean I oppose you. Look, I said without any hesitation : " SENSEX

> will dip down further when the market opens again. " It proved to be

> correct : in spite of 209 points drop in SENSEX yesterday, another 219

> points were lost today.

>

> -VJ

> ============ ===== ===

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

> <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vinay ji,

> >

> > It seems you did not get my point fully.

> >

> > What I wrote is about practical trading oppurtunity in the whole day

> and sure to bring profits. All others are risky ventures and total gains

> computed as you mentioned is only a dream that exists only on an excel

> sheets and what attracts novices to this game and makes them loose

> money.

> >

> > You have metioned correctly about the difficulty of such trades which

> happens at short intervals, yet you went ahead and calculated not only

> the days gain but years gains as well which is impractical.

> >

> > //Low SENSEX at the end of day yesterday was not a buying

> opportunity,

> > because SENSEX will dip down further when the market opens again.//

> >

> > pls look at what I had mentioned

> > //2) Sell (short) at 14:00PM - Buy at any time later//

> >

> > it is to sell -short when the prices / index are high and buy at a

> lower rate.

> >

> > but for this we have to anticipate the rise & falls correctly and

> where such graphs helps.

> >

> > regards

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > VJha vinayjhaa16@ ...

> >

> > Thu, October 22, 2009 7:59:50 AM

> > Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

> >

> >

> > Shenoy Ji,

> >

> > Upswing at 10:40 am yesterday could not be predicted by me, because I

> > analyze only main charts and avoid navamsha charts : the latter number

> > 234 per 6 hour and cannot be analyzed by any individual.

> >

> > Yesterday's trading opportunities which were reliably predicted were :

> > points 38-39 and 47-48, and both gave a total gain of ~60 points out

> > of 17200, or o.35%. It is no mean gain : if an average daily gain of

> 35%

> > is maintained, it will result in a total profit of 257% per year (Rs

> > 100 will become Rs 358) at compound rate!! But both these

> opportunities

> > were of very short durations and buying or selling so fast is not

> easy.

> >

> > Low SENSEX at the end of day yesterday was not a buying opportunity,

> > because SENSEX will dip down further when the market opens again.

> >

> > Presenting only major swings requires same amount of time in preparing

> > the forecasts, because unless thge entire graph is prepared one cannot

> > select major swings, but less reliable portions need to be either

> > omitted or highlighted.

> >

> > -Vinay Jha

> > ============ ========= = ====

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

> > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vinay Ji,

> > >

> > > Thank you for the explanation. Inspite of errors in computations /

> > assumptions there is no doubt that it is realy is commendable.

> > >

> > > The very idea that the effect of movement of planets & resultant

> > analysis could be presented in graphical form itself is valid proof of

> > the scientific basis of astrology.

> > >

> > > I think you should advance the posting by a day or two so that you

> > shall get adequate time to study the charts. What I mean is you don't

> > have to post tommorrow's chart but 2 or 3 after. This will give you

> > enough time to study and make corrections as well.

> > >

> > > Yes, as you said a few major swings will do for starters and general

> > trend. Don't have to post continues graph.

> > >

> > > This is because, the swings both & down gives oppurtunity if right

> and

> > losses if wrong.

> > >

> > > Today, there are 6 trade oppurtunities & atleast few of them could

> be

> > practicaly used to make reasonable profits.

> > >

> > > 1) Sell(short) at 10:40AM - Buy at lower price at 11:40AM

> > > 2) Sell (short) at 14:00PM - Buy at any time later

> > >

> > > Those who are tracking individual stocks can use this info to make

> > enough profits.

> > > Another interesting aspect is that Midcap sensex did very well

> today.

> > For a small trader increase in Midcap & smallcap stocks is far better

> > due to most of them having very less share value and hence could buy

> > more quantity with the same investments. Even a difference of Rs 2/-

> can

> > bring reasonable profits for small investors.

> > >

> > > So as you mentioned even a few major swings in a day is very good.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > VJha vinayjhaa16@ ...

> > >

> > > Wed, October 21, 2009 7:50:20 PM

> > > Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

> > >

> > >

> > > Shenoy ji,

> > >

> > > Second graph contains only one notable difference with respect to

> the

> > > first graph, but this difference was important which I initially

> > > overlooked due to hurry : mutual lordship relation between

> debilitated

> > > Moon and Mars today made the Vipreet Rajyoga of debilitated Mars in

> > 8th

> > > house defunct which I overlooked earlier. Yesterday, this Vipreet

> > Rajyog

> > > worked because Moon was neither debilitated nor related to Mars.

> > >

> > > This single factor gave an inverted graph for 39th horoscope (from

> > 10:01

> > > am to 10:21 am) : the line between 39th and 40th points was uopward

> > > in first graph which I corrected in the second file. First file gave

> > +50

> > > points upswing for this single horoscope lasting 20 minutes, while

> > > second file gave -60 points downswing : therefore first graph was

> +110

> > > points higher than second graph for the entire remaining day !! If

> you

> > > copy the first file and paste it upon second file in Adobe Photoshop

> > > with same scaling and make the 40th point coincide, you will find

> that

> > > minor changes were made by me in the second file : the only major

> > change

> > > was correction of 39th horoscope. I am uploading such a combined

> file

> > > ( BSE_21Oct09_ Analysis. psd ) at same website

> > > http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ for your scrutiny, which also contains

> > > actual SENSEX as well as normalized SENSEX in thich green line to

> > tally

> > > with the time segments of my projections.

> > >

> > > The projected graph of second file tallies amazingly with the

> > normalized

> > > SENSEX graph from 39th to 50th chart, which is a rare feat in

> > > astrology. Only the 39th segment was corrected, all other segments

> of

> > > first file had either no or neglible corrections in the second

> > attempt.

> > > If you forget the second file and compare the first file with

> > normalized

> > > SENSEX with -110 points downgrading after 39th segment, you will

> find

> > > very high correspondence upto 50th segment.

> > >

> > > After 50th segment, I used my 12- hour software to project the

> overall

> > > performance, and hurried over the segmental analysis due to time

> > > constraints which I could not revise even in the second file because

> I

> > > was adding new features to this software. I am finding it almost

> > > impossible to make forecast for the entire 6 hour working day of BSE

> > due

> > > to time involved. Perhaps it will be better to present only those

> > > segments which are significant and highly reliable, and omit those

> > > segments which require too much of time for analysis and

> > quatification.

> > > Sometimes quantification is almost impossible due to many

> incongruent

> > > influences operating simultaneously. Hence, I will try to avoid such

> > > segments in future and concentrate only on those segments which

> > require

> > > less time and are easily quantified. This will certainly help in day

> > > trading, because entire day's graph is not needed in day trading.

> Even

> > > one or two reliable segments per day is enough for day trading,

> > provided

> > > accuracy is guaranteed. By accuracy I do not absolute accuracy in

> > terms

> > > of magnitude, but accuracy in terms of upswing or downswing. With

> > time,

> > > I will try to increase the reliability of magnitude as well.

> > >

> > > I find it difficult to analyze properly all the 33 charts (25 of

> > Bombay

> > > and 6 national) of one day and compare them one by one with all

> charts

> > > of previous day : totalling 60 charts per day. It is even more

> > difficult

> > > to work on nearly 150 navamsha charts per six hours, which give rise

> > to

> > > sub-harmonic component of SENSEX. Such a task is beyond the

> capability

> > > of any individual. My ultimate aim is to present a few reliable

> > segments

> > > per day for day trading, and not the entire graph which is a

> > > time-consuming and complicated job.

> > >

> > > -Vinay Jha.

> > > ============ ========= == ===

> > > , " Suresh Babu "

> > > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vinay jha,

> > > >

> > > > When did you post the second graph? It seems to reflect the days

> > > events much better?

> > > >

> > > > The first graph though reflected the end of the day result

> > correctly,

> > > the morning session was way out of mark. Though it went slightly

> high

> > > two times, the quantification you applied was very high? went as

> high

> > as

> > > 17400?.

> > > >

> > > > Where you able to understand the problem?

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > To all :

> > > > >

> > > > > The graphical forecast of stock prices of All Companies for

> Bombay

> > > Stock

> > > > > Exchange for today has been uploaded at the bottom of following

> > web

> > > page

> > > > > under filename " BSE_21Oct09. jpg " :

> > > > >

> > > > > <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ > http://kundalee. wikidot.com/

> > > > > <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ >

> > > > >

> > > > > -Vinay Jha

> > > > > ============ ========= = ==

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Dear Vinay ji,

 

There is a reason for pointing the 57th point.

 

As you said the waveform is correct. But the quantification was not correct.

 

If you look at the actual bse fugures, at this time the market hit the lower

limit almost at the closing figures (17800) while in your chart it hit the

opening figures (17900).

 

After 53 it began to climb up above the average 16950 instead of downlide.

 

Yes scaling is also different. It is better you also follow the same scheme of

BSE sensex figures of 100's. This should make comparison much more better.

 

 

I don't know the exact method you are using, but thought the differnce will help

you further.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> Shenoy Ji,

>

> See the post-event analysis posted at same Kundalee website. I am finding it

very difficult to analyze all the charts completely, and time constraint is only

one problem, another problem is that some charts are very difficult to quantify

due to large number of diverse influences. Perhaps it is better to neglect such

problematic charts and present only the reliable segments.

>

> 57 was correct, 56 and 60 were highly inaccurate. Had they been correct,

entire graph would have passed as reasonably good. I checked 56th just now, and

found that the the actual waveform of 56th segment almost exactly replicated the

actual waveform of 56th segment of yesterday, and so did both horoscopes at 56th

segment. There may be difference in scaling between my presentation and BSE's,

but it cannot give rise to so much erroneous plotting. The replication of both

days' waveforms is preceded and folloed with differences in waveforms, hence

slight difference in starting and ending points of segments could give very

different, actually opposite results. Perhaps such differences are due to

navamsha movements which presently I am unable to analyzed in whole day's BSE

analysis, but I am working on this theme too.

>

> -VJ

> ============================ =====

>

>

>

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vinay ji,

> >

> > Absolutly correct. There is no doubt your analysis is very good for the day.

> >

> > I was just pointing to a few inconsistancies so that you can tweak it

further.

> >

> >

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > VJha <vinayjhaa16@>

> >

> > Thu, October 22, 2009 8:23:20 PM

> > Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

> >

> >  

> > Shenoy Ji,

> >

> > Your points are valid, but I am saying something different which does

> > not mean I oppose you. Look, I said without any hesitation : " SENSEX

> > will dip down further when the market opens again. " It proved to be

> > correct : in spite of 209 points drop in SENSEX yesterday, another 219

> > points were lost today.

> >

> > -VJ

> > ============ ===== ===

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

> > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vinay ji,

> > >

> > > It seems you did not get my point fully.

> > >

> > > What I wrote is about practical trading oppurtunity in the whole day

> > and sure to bring profits. All others are risky ventures and total gains

> > computed as you mentioned is only a dream that exists only on an excel

> > sheets and what attracts novices to this game and makes them loose

> > money.

> > >

> > > You have metioned correctly about the difficulty of such trades which

> > happens at short intervals, yet you went ahead and calculated not only

> > the days gain but years gains as well which is impractical.

> > >

> > > //Low SENSEX at the end of day yesterday was not a buying

> > opportunity,

> > > because SENSEX will dip down further when the market opens again.//

> > >

> > > pls look at what I had mentioned

> > > //2) Sell (short) at 14:00PM - Buy at any time later//

> > >

> > > it is to sell -short when the prices / index are high and buy at a

> > lower rate.

> > >

> > > but for this we have to anticipate the rise & falls correctly and

> > where such graphs helps.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > VJha vinayjhaa16@ ...

> > >

> > > Thu, October 22, 2009 7:59:50 AM

> > > Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

> > >

> > >

> > > Shenoy Ji,

> > >

> > > Upswing at 10:40 am yesterday could not be predicted by me, because I

> > > analyze only main charts and avoid navamsha charts : the latter number

> > > 234 per 6 hour and cannot be analyzed by any individual.

> > >

> > > Yesterday's trading opportunities which were reliably predicted were :

> > > points 38-39 and 47-48, and both gave a total gain of ~60 points out

> > > of 17200, or o.35%. It is no mean gain : if an average daily gain of

> > 35%

> > > is maintained, it will result in a total profit of 257% per year (Rs

> > > 100 will become Rs 358) at compound rate!! But both these

> > opportunities

> > > were of very short durations and buying or selling so fast is not

> > easy.

> > >

> > > Low SENSEX at the end of day yesterday was not a buying opportunity,

> > > because SENSEX will dip down further when the market opens again.

> > >

> > > Presenting only major swings requires same amount of time in preparing

> > > the forecasts, because unless thge entire graph is prepared one cannot

> > > select major swings, but less reliable portions need to be either

> > > omitted or highlighted.

> > >

> > > -Vinay Jha

> > > ============ ========= = ====

> > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

> > > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vinay Ji,

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for the explanation. Inspite of errors in computations /

> > > assumptions there is no doubt that it is realy is commendable.

> > > >

> > > > The very idea that the effect of movement of planets & resultant

> > > analysis could be presented in graphical form itself is valid proof of

> > > the scientific basis of astrology.

> > > >

> > > > I think you should advance the posting by a day or two so that you

> > > shall get adequate time to study the charts. What I mean is you don't

> > > have to post tommorrow's chart but 2 or 3 after. This will give you

> > > enough time to study and make corrections as well.

> > > >

> > > > Yes, as you said a few major swings will do for starters and general

> > > trend. Don't have to post continues graph.

> > > >

> > > > This is because, the swings both & down gives oppurtunity if right

> > and

> > > losses if wrong.

> > > >

> > > > Today, there are 6 trade oppurtunities & atleast few of them could

> > be

> > > practicaly used to make reasonable profits.

> > > >

> > > > 1) Sell(short) at 10:40AM - Buy at lower price at 11:40AM

> > > > 2) Sell (short) at 14:00PM - Buy at any time later

> > > >

> > > > Those who are tracking individual stocks can use this info to make

> > > enough profits.

> > > > Another interesting aspect is that Midcap sensex did very well

> > today.

> > > For a small trader increase in Midcap & smallcap stocks is far better

> > > due to most of them having very less share value and hence could buy

> > > more quantity with the same investments. Even a difference of Rs 2/-

> > can

> > > bring reasonable profits for small investors.

> > > >

> > > > So as you mentioned even a few major swings in a day is very good.

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > VJha vinayjhaa16@ ...

> > > >

> > > > Wed, October 21, 2009 7:50:20 PM

> > > > Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Shenoy ji,

> > > >

> > > > Second graph contains only one notable difference with respect to

> > the

> > > > first graph, but this difference was important which I initially

> > > > overlooked due to hurry : mutual lordship relation between

> > debilitated

> > > > Moon and Mars today made the Vipreet Rajyoga of debilitated Mars in

> > > 8th

> > > > house defunct which I overlooked earlier. Yesterday, this Vipreet

> > > Rajyog

> > > > worked because Moon was neither debilitated nor related to Mars.

> > > >

> > > > This single factor gave an inverted graph for 39th horoscope (from

> > > 10:01

> > > > am to 10:21 am) : the line between 39th and 40th points was uopward

> > > > in first graph which I corrected in the second file. First file gave

> > > +50

> > > > points upswing for this single horoscope lasting 20 minutes, while

> > > > second file gave -60 points downswing : therefore first graph was

> > +110

> > > > points higher than second graph for the entire remaining day !! If

> > you

> > > > copy the first file and paste it upon second file in Adobe Photoshop

> > > > with same scaling and make the 40th point coincide, you will find

> > that

> > > > minor changes were made by me in the second file : the only major

> > > change

> > > > was correction of 39th horoscope. I am uploading such a combined

> > file

> > > > ( BSE_21Oct09_ Analysis. psd ) at same website

> > > > http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ for your scrutiny, which also contains

> > > > actual SENSEX as well as normalized SENSEX in thich green line to

> > > tally

> > > > with the time segments of my projections.

> > > >

> > > > The projected graph of second file tallies amazingly with the

> > > normalized

> > > > SENSEX graph from 39th to 50th chart, which is a rare feat in

> > > > astrology. Only the 39th segment was corrected, all other segments

> > of

> > > > first file had either no or neglible corrections in the second

> > > attempt.

> > > > If you forget the second file and compare the first file with

> > > normalized

> > > > SENSEX with -110 points downgrading after 39th segment, you will

> > find

> > > > very high correspondence upto 50th segment.

> > > >

> > > > After 50th segment, I used my 12- hour software to project the

> > overall

> > > > performance, and hurried over the segmental analysis due to time

> > > > constraints which I could not revise even in the second file because

> > I

> > > > was adding new features to this software. I am finding it almost

> > > > impossible to make forecast for the entire 6 hour working day of BSE

> > > due

> > > > to time involved. Perhaps it will be better to present only those

> > > > segments which are significant and highly reliable, and omit those

> > > > segments which require too much of time for analysis and

> > > quatification.

> > > > Sometimes quantification is almost impossible due to many

> > incongruent

> > > > influences operating simultaneously. Hence, I will try to avoid such

> > > > segments in future and concentrate only on those segments which

> > > require

> > > > less time and are easily quantified. This will certainly help in day

> > > > trading, because entire day's graph is not needed in day trading.

> > Even

> > > > one or two reliable segments per day is enough for day trading,

> > > provided

> > > > accuracy is guaranteed. By accuracy I do not absolute accuracy in

> > > terms

> > > > of magnitude, but accuracy in terms of upswing or downswing. With

> > > time,

> > > > I will try to increase the reliability of magnitude as well.

> > > >

> > > > I find it difficult to analyze properly all the 33 charts (25 of

> > > Bombay

> > > > and 6 national) of one day and compare them one by one with all

> > charts

> > > > of previous day : totalling 60 charts per day. It is even more

> > > difficult

> > > > to work on nearly 150 navamsha charts per six hours, which give rise

> > > to

> > > > sub-harmonic component of SENSEX. Such a task is beyond the

> > capability

> > > > of any individual. My ultimate aim is to present a few reliable

> > > segments

> > > > per day for day trading, and not the entire graph which is a

> > > > time-consuming and complicated job.

> > > >

> > > > -Vinay Jha.

> > > > ============ ========= == ===

> > > > , " Suresh Babu "

> > > > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vinay jha,

> > > > >

> > > > > When did you post the second graph? It seems to reflect the days

> > > > events much better?

> > > > >

> > > > > The first graph though reflected the end of the day result

> > > correctly,

> > > > the morning session was way out of mark. Though it went slightly

> > high

> > > > two times, the quantification you applied was very high? went as

> > high

> > > as

> > > > 17400?.

> > > > >

> > > > > Where you able to understand the problem?

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@

> > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To all :

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The graphical forecast of stock prices of All Companies for

> > Bombay

> > > > Stock

> > > > > > Exchange for today has been uploaded at the bottom of following

> > > web

> > > > page

> > > > > > under filename " BSE_21Oct09. jpg " :

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ > http://kundalee. wikidot.com/

> > > > > > <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -Vinay Jha

> > > > > > ============ ========= = ==

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Shenoy Ji and others,

 

Please read the following explanation carefully, which will convince you

that ASTROLOGY is fully cable of 100% accurate forecasting of SENSEX,

and the drawbacks are merely due to our human limitations : we falter

either in selecting the right method and approach or in complete

evaluation and comparison of charts.

 

First of all, let me clear the confusion. 57th segment is the

LINE-SEGMENT following 57th POINT. Evaluate not the point but the

succeeding the line-segment.

 

57th POINT signifies the horoscope of Bombay made at that particular

time, and this horoscope remained effective for that duration following

57th POINT which is dilineated by 57th LINE-SEGMENT. The 57th

line-segment is AFTER the 57th point.

 

Do not analyze or compare POINTS, but analyze LINE-SEGMENTS. The slope

of 57th LINE-SEGMENT of my prediction and that of SENSEX exactly match

each other. Hence, my prediction was almost 100% accurate as far as 57th

horoscope was concerned. But 56th segment, marked with a big red dot in

the post-event analysis file, proved to be opposite in slope, and the

reason was found to be navamsha chart which I could not analyze in the

forecast but now I am including navamsha module in my stock-software.

Let me explain the method.

 

Most of D1 charts are near-replica of D1 charts of one day before by

an average time lag of 3.94 minutes ((1 day / 365.25 days), same

phenomenon occurs in the case of D9 charts too. If Sensex-graph of

Oct-21 is superimposed over that of Oct-22 after advancing the former

graph by 3.94 minutes, we will instantly notice some remarkable

similarity in waveform over considerable portion of 6-hour stretch. But

ther are important differences, which must be known beforeford for

successful prediction of SENSEX.

 

Fore prediction, I compare all 26 horoscopes of Bombay of today with

those of tomorrow, and make corrections in the graph of today to prepare

the graph of tomorrow. Thus, 26 x 2 = 52 horoscopes need to be judged

and then mutually compared. Then, two 12-hour national charts of today

need to be compared with those of tomorrow. In addition, national chart

of Nakshatra (eg, currently Chitra, lasting for ~14 days) and Chaitraadi

year need to be evaluated for predicting general gradient of the day in

question.

 

In additiopn to these 58 charts, navamsha charts also need to be

evaluated, which make the task onerous. If popular method of D9 is used,

there will be 27 D9 charts in 6 hours, but if bhaavachalita is divided

into 9 parts and D9 is cast in the manner of bhaavachalita, then there

may be 26 x 9 = 234 D9 charts in 6 hours. I currently use the popular

method, which has worked admirably so far in all cases and I do not feel

the need to make D9 according to detailed method. Still, it is hard to

evaluate and compare 58 + (27 x 2) = 112 charts per 6 hour.

 

I compare main bhaava-chalita charts (D1) of Bombay from 9:55 am to

16:00 pm, and used to ignore D9 (navamsha charts) due to time

constraints. Normally, D9 charts are less significant than D1, but D9

becomes more potent when some powerful influence is working positively

or negatively on 2nd house in D9 and D1 has relatively weaker forces

operating on 2nd house at that time.

 

Now, let me illustrate the most glaring error in my forecast for 22 Oct,

which was 56th line-segment ending at 57th point : it was result of 56th

D1.

 

56th D1 of Oct-21 and Oct-22 had negligible differences. But D9 had

one difference in the initial portion of 56th line-segment (before

14:19:50 pm on Oct-21) : Navaamshesh (ie, lord of 1rst house in D9) Moon

was in 4th house of its strong enemy svagrihi Venus on Oct-21 but was

in 8th house with Saturn of moolatrikona on 22nd Oct, all other things

remaining unchanged, which made the curve on 22-Oct go UP in the

initial portion of segment-56 because Moon's aspect on 2nd house was

full from 8th house.

 

But in the latter portion of segment-56, curve changed in the reverse

direction (after 14:32:07 pm on Oct-22) because lord 0f 11th Moon was in

2nd house on 21-Oct but in 6th house on 22-Oct, all other things

remaining unchanged, which made the curve on 22-Oct go DOWN in the

latter portion of segment-56.

 

In the middle portion of segment-56, we find no difference in waveform.

Thus, there are three parts of segment-56 analytically. On Oct-21,

segment-56 was initially lower and went to higher point, thus making an

ascending gradient, while the opposite occurred on 22nd Oct.

 

Neglecting D9, I found no difference in D1 of both days and therefore

projected same gradient for segment-56. But D9 suggested opposite

gradient for same segment. Since D1 of both days were same, results of

D9 must be added to those of D1, which will reverse the gradient of D1.

In this case, differences in D9 charts of both days are related to

aspects of strong planets on 2nd house, the role of D9 should be higher.

 

I am now including D9 in my stock-software, but I will not be able to

evaluate 112 charts per day because I have other assignments too. But it

is clear that if D1 and D9 are both used, a correct prediction of stock

prices is feasible ASTROLOGICALLY, which is almost impossible otherwise.

For initial 3.4 hours, my prediction was very near the actual graph, and

later important differences in D9 made 2-3 major errors out of 26

segments.

 

As far as individuals are concerned, stock trading is related to

speculation & c, but when cumulative stock prices of the whole country is

concerned, it is related SOLELY to 2nd house of wealth, because it

reflects the Market-capitalization of all companies which form a good

part of national wealth and influence the remaining sectores of national

economy. Influence of D9 suggests that 10th house in D1 may be important

too, although I have not analyzed any other house than 2nd GRAPHICALLY

till now.

 

I have no respect for theories not founded on practical tests. Most of

the time, I read theoretical messages, few astrologers have time for

practical, because stock-prediction is difficult and risky.

 

You can skip the following paragraph if you wish :

 

Whether one uses physical astronomy or Suryasiddhanta, graph based on D1

will show minor differences, but D9 will show major differences and

Suryasiddhanta proves to be superior astrologically. In national charts,

Suryasiddhanta is far more reliable astrologically even in the case of

D1. Suryasiddhanta proves to be accurate astrologically, and physical

astronomy is correct PHYSICALLY. The criterion of test is examination of

phalita results, and not academic debates over vain ideas. But I have

concluded that the very mention of Suryasiddhanta is repugnant to many

astrologers. I have no desire to waste my time over vain debates devoid

of practical test, and most of these astrologers are in no mood to test

Suryasiddhanta. Hence, any dialogue with them is meaningless.

 

I am perfecting my software for stock-trading, and I will post forecasts

from time to time.

 

-Vinay Jha

=================== ======

, " Suresh Babu "

<sureshbabuag wrote:

>

>

> Dear Vinay ji,

>

> There is a reason for pointing the 57th point.

>

> As you said the waveform is correct. But the quantification was not

correct.

>

> If you look at the actual bse fugures, at this time the market hit the

lower limit almost at the closing figures (17800) while in your chart it

hit the opening figures (17900).

>

> After 53 it began to climb up above the average 16950 instead of

downlide.

>

> Yes scaling is also different. It is better you also follow the same

scheme of BSE sensex figures of 100's. This should make comparison much

more better.

>

>

> I don't know the exact method you are using, but thought the differnce

will help you further.

>

> regards

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

>

> , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote:

> >

> > Shenoy Ji,

> >

> > See the post-event analysis posted at same Kundalee website. I am

finding it very difficult to analyze all the charts completely, and time

constraint is only one problem, another problem is that some charts are

very difficult to quantify due to large number of diverse influences.

Perhaps it is better to neglect such problematic charts and present only

the reliable segments.

> >

> > 57 was correct, 56 and 60 were highly inaccurate. Had they been

correct, entire graph would have passed as reasonably good. I checked

56th just now, and found that the the actual waveform of 56th segment

almost exactly replicated the actual waveform of 56th segment of

yesterday, and so did both horoscopes at 56th segment. There may be

difference in scaling between my presentation and BSE's, but it cannot

give rise to so much erroneous plotting. The replication of both days'

waveforms is preceded and folloed with differences in waveforms, hence

slight difference in starting and ending points of segments could give

very different, actually opposite results. Perhaps such differences are

due to navamsha movements which presently I am unable to analyzed in

whole day's BSE analysis, but I am working on this theme too.

> >

> > -VJ

> > ============================ =====

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vinay ji,

> > >

> > > Absolutly correct. There is no doubt your analysis is very good

for the day.

> > >

> > > I was just pointing to a few inconsistancies so that you can tweak

it further.

> > >

> > >

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > VJha <vinayjhaa16@>

> > >

> > > Thu, October 22, 2009 8:23:20 PM

> > > Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

> > >

> > >

> > > Shenoy Ji,

> > >

> > > Your points are valid, but I am saying something different which

does

> > > not mean I oppose you. Look, I said without any hesitation :

" SENSEX

> > > will dip down further when the market opens again. " It proved to

be

> > > correct : in spite of 209 points drop in SENSEX yesterday, another

219

> > > points were lost today.

> > >

> > > -VJ

> > > ============ ===== ===

> > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

> > > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vinay ji,

> > > >

> > > > It seems you did not get my point fully.

> > > >

> > > > What I wrote is about practical trading oppurtunity in the whole

day

> > > and sure to bring profits. All others are risky ventures and total

gains

> > > computed as you mentioned is only a dream that exists only on an

excel

> > > sheets and what attracts novices to this game and makes them loose

> > > money.

> > > >

> > > > You have metioned correctly about the difficulty of such trades

which

> > > happens at short intervals, yet you went ahead and calculated not

only

> > > the days gain but years gains as well which is impractical.

> > > >

> > > > //Low SENSEX at the end of day yesterday was not a buying

> > > opportunity,

> > > > because SENSEX will dip down further when the market opens

again.//

> > > >

> > > > pls look at what I had mentioned

> > > > //2) Sell (short) at 14:00PM - Buy at any time later//

> > > >

> > > > it is to sell -short when the prices / index are high and buy at

a

> > > lower rate.

> > > >

> > > > but for this we have to anticipate the rise & falls correctly

and

> > > where such graphs helps.

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > VJha vinayjhaa16@ ...

> > > >

> > > > Thu, October 22, 2009 7:59:50 AM

> > > > Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Shenoy Ji,

> > > >

> > > > Upswing at 10:40 am yesterday could not be predicted by me,

because I

> > > > analyze only main charts and avoid navamsha charts : the latter

number

> > > > 234 per 6 hour and cannot be analyzed by any individual.

> > > >

> > > > Yesterday's trading opportunities which were reliably predicted

were :

> > > > points 38-39 and 47-48, and both gave a total gain of ~60 points

out

> > > > of 17200, or o.35%. It is no mean gain : if an average daily

gain of

> > > 35%

> > > > is maintained, it will result in a total profit of 257% per year

(Rs

> > > > 100 will become Rs 358) at compound rate!! But both these

> > > opportunities

> > > > were of very short durations and buying or selling so fast is

not

> > > easy.

> > > >

> > > > Low SENSEX at the end of day yesterday was not a buying

opportunity,

> > > > because SENSEX will dip down further when the market opens

again.

> > > >

> > > > Presenting only major swings requires same amount of time in

preparing

> > > > the forecasts, because unless thge entire graph is prepared one

cannot

> > > > select major swings, but less reliable portions need to be

either

> > > > omitted or highlighted.

> > > >

> > > > -Vinay Jha

> > > > ============ ========= = ====

> > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

> > > > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vinay Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you for the explanation. Inspite of errors in

computations /

> > > > assumptions there is no doubt that it is realy is commendable.

> > > > >

> > > > > The very idea that the effect of movement of planets &

resultant

> > > > analysis could be presented in graphical form itself is valid

proof of

> > > > the scientific basis of astrology.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think you should advance the posting by a day or two so that

you

> > > > shall get adequate time to study the charts. What I mean is you

don't

> > > > have to post tommorrow's chart but 2 or 3 after. This will give

you

> > > > enough time to study and make corrections as well.

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, as you said a few major swings will do for starters and

general

> > > > trend. Don't have to post continues graph.

> > > > >

> > > > > This is because, the swings both & down gives oppurtunity if

right

> > > and

> > > > losses if wrong.

> > > > >

> > > > > Today, there are 6 trade oppurtunities & atleast few of them

could

> > > be

> > > > practicaly used to make reasonable profits.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) Sell(short) at 10:40AM - Buy at lower price at 11:40AM

> > > > > 2) Sell (short) at 14:00PM - Buy at any time later

> > > > >

> > > > > Those who are tracking individual stocks can use this info to

make

> > > > enough profits.

> > > > > Another interesting aspect is that Midcap sensex did very well

> > > today.

> > > > For a small trader increase in Midcap & smallcap stocks is far

better

> > > > due to most of them having very less share value and hence could

buy

> > > > more quantity with the same investments. Even a difference of Rs

2/-

> > > can

> > > > bring reasonable profits for small investors.

> > > > >

> > > > > So as you mentioned even a few major swings in a day is very

good.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > VJha vinayjhaa16@ ...

> > > > >

> > > > > Wed, October 21, 2009 7:50:20 PM

> > > > > Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Shenoy ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Second graph contains only one notable difference with respect

to

> > > the

> > > > > first graph, but this difference was important which I

initially

> > > > > overlooked due to hurry : mutual lordship relation between

> > > debilitated

> > > > > Moon and Mars today made the Vipreet Rajyoga of debilitated

Mars in

> > > > 8th

> > > > > house defunct which I overlooked earlier. Yesterday, this

Vipreet

> > > > Rajyog

> > > > > worked because Moon was neither debilitated nor related to

Mars.

> > > > >

> > > > > This single factor gave an inverted graph for 39th horoscope

(from

> > > > 10:01

> > > > > am to 10:21 am) : the line between 39th and 40th points was

uopward

> > > > > in first graph which I corrected in the second file. First

file gave

> > > > +50

> > > > > points upswing for this single horoscope lasting 20 minutes,

while

> > > > > second file gave -60 points downswing : therefore first graph

was

> > > +110

> > > > > points higher than second graph for the entire remaining day

!! If

> > > you

> > > > > copy the first file and paste it upon second file in Adobe

Photoshop

> > > > > with same scaling and make the 40th point coincide, you will

find

> > > that

> > > > > minor changes were made by me in the second file : the only

major

> > > > change

> > > > > was correction of 39th horoscope. I am uploading such a

combined

> > > file

> > > > > ( BSE_21Oct09_ Analysis. psd ) at same website

> > > > > http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ for your scrutiny, which also

contains

> > > > > actual SENSEX as well as normalized SENSEX in thich green line

to

> > > > tally

> > > > > with the time segments of my projections.

> > > > >

> > > > > The projected graph of second file tallies amazingly with the

> > > > normalized

> > > > > SENSEX graph from 39th to 50th chart, which is a rare feat in

> > > > > astrology. Only the 39th segment was corrected, all other

segments

> > > of

> > > > > first file had either no or neglible corrections in the second

> > > > attempt.

> > > > > If you forget the second file and compare the first file with

> > > > normalized

> > > > > SENSEX with -110 points downgrading after 39th segment, you

will

> > > find

> > > > > very high correspondence upto 50th segment.

> > > > >

> > > > > After 50th segment, I used my 12- hour software to project the

> > > overall

> > > > > performance, and hurried over the segmental analysis due to

time

> > > > > constraints which I could not revise even in the second file

because

> > > I

> > > > > was adding new features to this software. I am finding it

almost

> > > > > impossible to make forecast for the entire 6 hour working day

of BSE

> > > > due

> > > > > to time involved. Perhaps it will be better to present only

those

> > > > > segments which are significant and highly reliable, and omit

those

> > > > > segments which require too much of time for analysis and

> > > > quatification.

> > > > > Sometimes quantification is almost impossible due to many

> > > incongruent

> > > > > influences operating simultaneously. Hence, I will try to

avoid such

> > > > > segments in future and concentrate only on those segments

which

> > > > require

> > > > > less time and are easily quantified. This will certainly help

in day

> > > > > trading, because entire day's graph is not needed in day

trading.

> > > Even

> > > > > one or two reliable segments per day is enough for day

trading,

> > > > provided

> > > > > accuracy is guaranteed. By accuracy I do not absolute accuracy

in

> > > > terms

> > > > > of magnitude, but accuracy in terms of upswing or downswing.

With

> > > > time,

> > > > > I will try to increase the reliability of magnitude as well.

> > > > >

> > > > > I find it difficult to analyze properly all the 33 charts (25

of

> > > > Bombay

> > > > > and 6 national) of one day and compare them one by one with

all

> > > charts

> > > > > of previous day : totalling 60 charts per day. It is even more

> > > > difficult

> > > > > to work on nearly 150 navamsha charts per six hours, which

give rise

> > > > to

> > > > > sub-harmonic component of SENSEX. Such a task is beyond the

> > > capability

> > > > > of any individual. My ultimate aim is to present a few

reliable

> > > > segments

> > > > > per day for day trading, and not the entire graph which is a

> > > > > time-consuming and complicated job.

> > > > >

> > > > > -Vinay Jha.

> > > > > ============ ========= == ===

> > > > > , " Suresh Babu "

> > > > > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Vinay jha,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When did you post the second graph? It seems to reflect the

days

> > > > > events much better?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The first graph though reflected the end of the day result

> > > > correctly,

> > > > > the morning session was way out of mark. Though it went

slightly

> > > high

> > > > > two times, the quantification you applied was very high? went

as

> > > high

> > > > as

> > > > > 17400?.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Where you able to understand the problem?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " VJha "

vinayjhaa16@

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > To all :

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The graphical forecast of stock prices of All Companies

for

> > > Bombay

> > > > > Stock

> > > > > > > Exchange for today has been uploaded at the bottom of

following

> > > > web

> > > > > page

> > > > > > > under filename " BSE_21Oct09. jpg " :

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ > http://kundalee.

wikidot.com/

> > > > > > > <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -Vinay Jha

> > > > > > > ============ ========= = ==

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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Dear Vinay ji,

 

Thank you very much for the explanations. I must say it will take atleast one

hour if not more to digest what you have written. So let me try to to understand

it first.

 

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

________________________________

VJha <vinayjhaa16

 

Fri, October 23, 2009 12:01:48 PM

Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

 

 

Shenoy Ji and others,

 

Please read the following explanation carefully, which will convince you

that ASTROLOGY is fully cable of 100% accurate forecasting of SENSEX,

and the drawbacks are merely due to our human limitations : we falter

either in selecting the right method and approach or in complete

evaluation and comparison of charts.

 

First of all, let me clear the confusion. 57th segment is the

LINE-SEGMENT following 57th POINT. Evaluate not the point but the

succeeding the line-segment.

 

57th POINT signifies the horoscope of Bombay made at that particular

time, and this horoscope remained effective for that duration following

57th POINT which is dilineated by 57th LINE-SEGMENT. The 57th

line-segment is AFTER the 57th point.

 

Do not analyze or compare POINTS, but analyze LINE-SEGMENTS. The slope

of 57th LINE-SEGMENT of my prediction and that of SENSEX exactly match

each other. Hence, my prediction was almost 100% accurate as far as 57th

horoscope was concerned. But 56th segment, marked with a big red dot in

the post-event analysis file, proved to be opposite in slope, and the

reason was found to be navamsha chart which I could not analyze in the

forecast but now I am including navamsha module in my stock-software.

Let me explain the method.

 

Most of D1 charts are near-replica of D1 charts of one day before by

an average time lag of 3.94 minutes ((1 day / 365.25 days), same

phenomenon occurs in the case of D9 charts too. If Sensex-graph of

Oct-21 is superimposed over that of Oct-22 after advancing the former

graph by 3.94 minutes, we will instantly notice some remarkable

similarity in waveform over considerable portion of 6-hour stretch. But

ther are important differences, which must be known beforeford for

successful prediction of SENSEX.

 

Fore prediction, I compare all 26 horoscopes of Bombay of today with

those of tomorrow, and make corrections in the graph of today to prepare

the graph of tomorrow. Thus, 26 x 2 = 52 horoscopes need to be judged

and then mutually compared. Then, two 12-hour national charts of today

need to be compared with those of tomorrow. In addition, national chart

of Nakshatra (eg, currently Chitra, lasting for ~14 days) and Chaitraadi

year need to be evaluated for predicting general gradient of the day in

question.

 

In additiopn to these 58 charts, navamsha charts also need to be

evaluated, which make the task onerous. If popular method of D9 is used,

there will be 27 D9 charts in 6 hours, but if bhaavachalita is divided

into 9 parts and D9 is cast in the manner of bhaavachalita, then there

may be 26 x 9 = 234 D9 charts in 6 hours. I currently use the popular

method, which has worked admirably so far in all cases and I do not feel

the need to make D9 according to detailed method. Still, it is hard to

evaluate and compare 58 + (27 x 2) = 112 charts per 6 hour.

 

I compare main bhaava-chalita charts (D1) of Bombay from 9:55 am to

16:00 pm, and used to ignore D9 (navamsha charts) due to time

constraints. Normally, D9 charts are less significant than D1, but D9

becomes more potent when some powerful influence is working positively

or negatively on 2nd house in D9 and D1 has relatively weaker forces

operating on 2nd house at that time.

 

Now, let me illustrate the most glaring error in my forecast for 22 Oct,

which was 56th line-segment ending at 57th point : it was result of 56th

D1.

 

56th D1 of Oct-21 and Oct-22 had negligible differences. But D9 had

one difference in the initial portion of 56th line-segment (before

14:19:50 pm on Oct-21) : Navaamshesh (ie, lord of 1rst house in D9) Moon

was in 4th house of its strong enemy svagrihi Venus on Oct-21 but was

in 8th house with Saturn of moolatrikona on 22nd Oct, all other things

remaining unchanged, which made the curve on 22-Oct go UP in the

initial portion of segment-56 because Moon's aspect on 2nd house was

full from 8th house.

 

But in the latter portion of segment-56, curve changed in the reverse

direction (after 14:32:07 pm on Oct-22) because lord 0f 11th Moon was in

2nd house on 21-Oct but in 6th house on 22-Oct, all other things

remaining unchanged, which made the curve on 22-Oct go DOWN in the

latter portion of segment-56.

 

In the middle portion of segment-56, we find no difference in waveform.

Thus, there are three parts of segment-56 analytically. On Oct-21,

segment-56 was initially lower and went to higher point, thus making an

ascending gradient, while the opposite occurred on 22nd Oct.

 

Neglecting D9, I found no difference in D1 of both days and therefore

projected same gradient for segment-56. But D9 suggested opposite

gradient for same segment. Since D1 of both days were same, results of

D9 must be added to those of D1, which will reverse the gradient of D1.

In this case, differences in D9 charts of both days are related to

aspects of strong planets on 2nd house, the role of D9 should be higher.

 

I am now including D9 in my stock-software, but I will not be able to

evaluate 112 charts per day because I have other assignments too. But it

is clear that if D1 and D9 are both used, a correct prediction of stock

prices is feasible ASTROLOGICALLY, which is almost impossible otherwise.

For initial 3.4 hours, my prediction was very near the actual graph, and

later important differences in D9 made 2-3 major errors out of 26

segments.

 

As far as individuals are concerned, stock trading is related to

speculation & c, but when cumulative stock prices of the whole country is

concerned, it is related SOLELY to 2nd house of wealth, because it

reflects the Market-capitalizati on of all companies which form a good

part of national wealth and influence the remaining sectores of national

economy. Influence of D9 suggests that 10th house in D1 may be important

too, although I have not analyzed any other house than 2nd GRAPHICALLY

till now.

 

I have no respect for theories not founded on practical tests. Most of

the time, I read theoretical messages, few astrologers have time for

practical, because stock-prediction is difficult and risky.

 

You can skip the following paragraph if you wish :

 

Whether one uses physical astronomy or Suryasiddhanta, graph based on D1

will show minor differences, but D9 will show major differences and

Suryasiddhanta proves to be superior astrologically. In national charts,

Suryasiddhanta is far more reliable astrologically even in the case of

D1. Suryasiddhanta proves to be accurate astrologically, and physical

astronomy is correct PHYSICALLY. The criterion of test is examination of

phalita results, and not academic debates over vain ideas. But I have

concluded that the very mention of Suryasiddhanta is repugnant to many

astrologers. I have no desire to waste my time over vain debates devoid

of practical test, and most of these astrologers are in no mood to test

Suryasiddhanta. Hence, any dialogue with them is meaningless.

 

I am perfecting my software for stock-trading, and I will post forecasts

from time to time.

 

-Vinay Jha

============ ======= ======

, " Suresh Babu "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> Dear Vinay ji,

>

> There is a reason for pointing the 57th point.

>

> As you said the waveform is correct. But the quantification was not

correct.

>

> If you look at the actual bse fugures, at this time the market hit the

lower limit almost at the closing figures (17800) while in your chart it

hit the opening figures (17900).

>

> After 53 it began to climb up above the average 16950 instead of

downlide.

>

> Yes scaling is also different. It is better you also follow the same

scheme of BSE sensex figures of 100's. This should make comparison much

more better.

>

>

> I don't know the exact method you are using, but thought the differnce

will help you further.

>

> regards

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

>

> , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote:

> >

> > Shenoy Ji,

> >

> > See the post-event analysis posted at same Kundalee website. I am

finding it very difficult to analyze all the charts completely, and time

constraint is only one problem, another problem is that some charts are

very difficult to quantify due to large number of diverse influences.

Perhaps it is better to neglect such problematic charts and present only

the reliable segments.

> >

> > 57 was correct, 56 and 60 were highly inaccurate. Had they been

correct, entire graph would have passed as reasonably good. I checked

56th just now, and found that the the actual waveform of 56th segment

almost exactly replicated the actual waveform of 56th segment of

yesterday, and so did both horoscopes at 56th segment. There may be

difference in scaling between my presentation and BSE's, but it cannot

give rise to so much erroneous plotting. The replication of both days'

waveforms is preceded and folloed with differences in waveforms, hence

slight difference in starting and ending points of segments could give

very different, actually opposite results. Perhaps such differences are

due to navamsha movements which presently I am unable to analyzed in

whole day's BSE analysis, but I am working on this theme too.

> >

> > -VJ

> > ============ ========= ======= =====

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vinay ji,

> > >

> > > Absolutly correct. There is no doubt your analysis is very good

for the day.

> > >

> > > I was just pointing to a few inconsistancies so that you can tweak

it further.

> > >

> > >

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > VJha <vinayjhaa16@ >

> > >

> > > Thu, October 22, 2009 8:23:20 PM

> > > Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

> > >

> > >

> > > Shenoy Ji,

> > >

> > > Your points are valid, but I am saying something different which

does

> > > not mean I oppose you. Look, I said without any hesitation :

" SENSEX

> > > will dip down further when the market opens again. " It proved to

be

> > > correct : in spite of 209 points drop in SENSEX yesterday, another

219

> > > points were lost today.

> > >

> > > -VJ

> > > ============ ===== ===

> > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

> > > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vinay ji,

> > > >

> > > > It seems you did not get my point fully.

> > > >

> > > > What I wrote is about practical trading oppurtunity in the whole

day

> > > and sure to bring profits. All others are risky ventures and total

gains

> > > computed as you mentioned is only a dream that exists only on an

excel

> > > sheets and what attracts novices to this game and makes them loose

> > > money.

> > > >

> > > > You have metioned correctly about the difficulty of such trades

which

> > > happens at short intervals, yet you went ahead and calculated not

only

> > > the days gain but years gains as well which is impractical.

> > > >

> > > > //Low SENSEX at the end of day yesterday was not a buying

> > > opportunity,

> > > > because SENSEX will dip down further when the market opens

again.//

> > > >

> > > > pls look at what I had mentioned

> > > > //2) Sell (short) at 14:00PM - Buy at any time later//

> > > >

> > > > it is to sell -short when the prices / index are high and buy at

a

> > > lower rate.

> > > >

> > > > but for this we have to anticipate the rise & falls correctly

and

> > > where such graphs helps.

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > VJha vinayjhaa16@ ...

> > > >

> > > > Thu, October 22, 2009 7:59:50 AM

> > > > Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Shenoy Ji,

> > > >

> > > > Upswing at 10:40 am yesterday could not be predicted by me,

because I

> > > > analyze only main charts and avoid navamsha charts : the latter

number

> > > > 234 per 6 hour and cannot be analyzed by any individual.

> > > >

> > > > Yesterday's trading opportunities which were reliably predicted

were :

> > > > points 38-39 and 47-48, and both gave a total gain of ~60 points

out

> > > > of 17200, or o.35%. It is no mean gain : if an average daily

gain of

> > > 35%

> > > > is maintained, it will result in a total profit of 257% per year

(Rs

> > > > 100 will become Rs 358) at compound rate!! But both these

> > > opportunities

> > > > were of very short durations and buying or selling so fast is

not

> > > easy.

> > > >

> > > > Low SENSEX at the end of day yesterday was not a buying

opportunity,

> > > > because SENSEX will dip down further when the market opens

again.

> > > >

> > > > Presenting only major swings requires same amount of time in

preparing

> > > > the forecasts, because unless thge entire graph is prepared one

cannot

> > > > select major swings, but less reliable portions need to be

either

> > > > omitted or highlighted.

> > > >

> > > > -Vinay Jha

> > > > ============ ========= = ====

> > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

> > > > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vinay Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you for the explanation. Inspite of errors in

computations /

> > > > assumptions there is no doubt that it is realy is commendable.

> > > > >

> > > > > The very idea that the effect of movement of planets &

resultant

> > > > analysis could be presented in graphical form itself is valid

proof of

> > > > the scientific basis of astrology.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think you should advance the posting by a day or two so that

you

> > > > shall get adequate time to study the charts. What I mean is you

don't

> > > > have to post tommorrow's chart but 2 or 3 after. This will give

you

> > > > enough time to study and make corrections as well.

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, as you said a few major swings will do for starters and

general

> > > > trend. Don't have to post continues graph.

> > > > >

> > > > > This is because, the swings both & down gives oppurtunity if

right

> > > and

> > > > losses if wrong.

> > > > >

> > > > > Today, there are 6 trade oppurtunities & atleast few of them

could

> > > be

> > > > practicaly used to make reasonable profits.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) Sell(short) at 10:40AM - Buy at lower price at 11:40AM

> > > > > 2) Sell (short) at 14:00PM - Buy at any time later

> > > > >

> > > > > Those who are tracking individual stocks can use this info to

make

> > > > enough profits.

> > > > > Another interesting aspect is that Midcap sensex did very well

> > > today.

> > > > For a small trader increase in Midcap & smallcap stocks is far

better

> > > > due to most of them having very less share value and hence could

buy

> > > > more quantity with the same investments. Even a difference of Rs

2/-

> > > can

> > > > bring reasonable profits for small investors.

> > > > >

> > > > > So as you mentioned even a few major swings in a day is very

good.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > VJha vinayjhaa16@ ...

> > > > >

> > > > > Wed, October 21, 2009 7:50:20 PM

> > > > > Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Shenoy ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Second graph contains only one notable difference with respect

to

> > > the

> > > > > first graph, but this difference was important which I

initially

> > > > > overlooked due to hurry : mutual lordship relation between

> > > debilitated

> > > > > Moon and Mars today made the Vipreet Rajyoga of debilitated

Mars in

> > > > 8th

> > > > > house defunct which I overlooked earlier. Yesterday, this

Vipreet

> > > > Rajyog

> > > > > worked because Moon was neither debilitated nor related to

Mars.

> > > > >

> > > > > This single factor gave an inverted graph for 39th horoscope

(from

> > > > 10:01

> > > > > am to 10:21 am) : the line between 39th and 40th points was

uopward

> > > > > in first graph which I corrected in the second file. First

file gave

> > > > +50

> > > > > points upswing for this single horoscope lasting 20 minutes,

while

> > > > > second file gave -60 points downswing : therefore first graph

was

> > > +110

> > > > > points higher than second graph for the entire remaining day

!! If

> > > you

> > > > > copy the first file and paste it upon second file in Adobe

Photoshop

> > > > > with same scaling and make the 40th point coincide, you will

find

> > > that

> > > > > minor changes were made by me in the second file : the only

major

> > > > change

> > > > > was correction of 39th horoscope. I am uploading such a

combined

> > > file

> > > > > ( BSE_21Oct09_ Analysis. psd ) at same website

> > > > > http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ for your scrutiny, which also

contains

> > > > > actual SENSEX as well as normalized SENSEX in thich green line

to

> > > > tally

> > > > > with the time segments of my projections.

> > > > >

> > > > > The projected graph of second file tallies amazingly with the

> > > > normalized

> > > > > SENSEX graph from 39th to 50th chart, which is a rare feat in

> > > > > astrology. Only the 39th segment was corrected, all other

segments

> > > of

> > > > > first file had either no or neglible corrections in the second

> > > > attempt.

> > > > > If you forget the second file and compare the first file with

> > > > normalized

> > > > > SENSEX with -110 points downgrading after 39th segment, you

will

> > > find

> > > > > very high correspondence upto 50th segment.

> > > > >

> > > > > After 50th segment, I used my 12- hour software to project the

> > > overall

> > > > > performance, and hurried over the segmental analysis due to

time

> > > > > constraints which I could not revise even in the second file

because

> > > I

> > > > > was adding new features to this software. I am finding it

almost

> > > > > impossible to make forecast for the entire 6 hour working day

of BSE

> > > > due

> > > > > to time involved. Perhaps it will be better to present only

those

> > > > > segments which are significant and highly reliable, and omit

those

> > > > > segments which require too much of time for analysis and

> > > > quatification.

> > > > > Sometimes quantification is almost impossible due to many

> > > incongruent

> > > > > influences operating simultaneously. Hence, I will try to

avoid such

> > > > > segments in future and concentrate only on those segments

which

> > > > require

> > > > > less time and are easily quantified. This will certainly help

in day

> > > > > trading, because entire day's graph is not needed in day

trading.

> > > Even

> > > > > one or two reliable segments per day is enough for day

trading,

> > > > provided

> > > > > accuracy is guaranteed. By accuracy I do not absolute accuracy

in

> > > > terms

> > > > > of magnitude, but accuracy in terms of upswing or downswing.

With

> > > > time,

> > > > > I will try to increase the reliability of magnitude as well.

> > > > >

> > > > > I find it difficult to analyze properly all the 33 charts (25

of

> > > > Bombay

> > > > > and 6 national) of one day and compare them one by one with

all

> > > charts

> > > > > of previous day : totalling 60 charts per day. It is even more

> > > > difficult

> > > > > to work on nearly 150 navamsha charts per six hours, which

give rise

> > > > to

> > > > > sub-harmonic component of SENSEX. Such a task is beyond the

> > > capability

> > > > > of any individual. My ultimate aim is to present a few

reliable

> > > > segments

> > > > > per day for day trading, and not the entire graph which is a

> > > > > time-consuming and complicated job.

> > > > >

> > > > > -Vinay Jha.

> > > > > ============ ========= == ===

> > > > > , " Suresh Babu "

> > > > > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Vinay jha,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When did you post the second graph? It seems to reflect the

days

> > > > > events much better?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The first graph though reflected the end of the day result

> > > > correctly,

> > > > > the morning session was way out of mark. Though it went

slightly

> > > high

> > > > > two times, the quantification you applied was very high? went

as

> > > high

> > > > as

> > > > > 17400?.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Where you able to understand the problem?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " VJha "

vinayjhaa16@

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > To all :

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The graphical forecast of stock prices of All Companies

for

> > > Bombay

> > > > > Stock

> > > > > > > Exchange for today has been uploaded at the bottom of

following

> > > > web

> > > > > page

> > > > > > > under filename " BSE_21Oct09. jpg " :

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ > http://kundalee.

wikidot.com/

> > > > > > > <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -Vinay Jha

> > > > > > > ============ ========= = ==

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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Dear Shri Jha Saab and Shenoy Ji and others

The basic tenet is:

 ASTROLOGY is fully cable of 100% accurate forecasting of SENSEX,

and the drawbacks are merely due to our human limitations

Frankly speaking since 1991 0n wards lot has come about these aspects in various

prominent Astrological Magzines when cyber media has not made it's dent.Now

cyber interest make this field more attractive and interseting aspect of

Study.For serious Astrologers it can be another flag to make their

presence.Indirect contribution of Astrology to the Nation and to help

individuals to make their both ends meet in market,keeping in view other

saturated job markets. 

How we want to apply,what we want to apply to deduce is again

indinvidualistic.what has gone fault and who has made fault and how fault was

made are all there for future purposes.

 

Time and again capabilities of Astrology need no reiteration.what we need people

who are willing to adopt and others who are willing to work out and make

available the knowledge.Interest and enthusiasm is always given due

regard.probably we need to ward off overzealous manner in any manner keeping in

view the large meberships and their field of interest.

Financial Astrology is a growing concept and to find it's relevance to Planets

and to zodiacal system is always material to learn and work.

We have seen how mundane aspects in Astrology are dealt and also Psephology and

if this is growing to be the other one,we are making Astrology as more

utilitarian like any other pure science.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

 

--- On Fri, 10/23/09, VJha <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

 

 

VJha <vinayjhaa16

Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

 

Friday, October 23, 2009, 2:31 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Shenoy Ji and others,

 

Please read the following explanation carefully, which will convince you

that ASTROLOGY is fully cable of 100% accurate forecasting of SENSEX,

and the drawbacks are merely due to our human limitations : we falter

either in selecting the right method and approach or in complete

evaluation and comparison of charts.

 

First of all, let me clear the confusion. 57th segment is the

LINE-SEGMENT following 57th POINT. Evaluate not the point but the

succeeding the line-segment.

 

57th POINT signifies the horoscope of Bombay made at that particular

time, and this horoscope remained effective for that duration following

57th POINT which is dilineated by 57th LINE-SEGMENT. The 57th

line-segment is AFTER the 57th point.

 

Do not analyze or compare POINTS, but analyze LINE-SEGMENTS. The slope

of 57th LINE-SEGMENT of my prediction and that of SENSEX exactly match

each other. Hence, my prediction was almost 100% accurate as far as 57th

horoscope was concerned. But 56th segment, marked with a big red dot in

the post-event analysis file, proved to be opposite in slope, and the

reason was found to be navamsha chart which I could not analyze in the

forecast but now I am including navamsha module in my stock-software.

Let me explain the method.

 

Most of D1 charts are near-replica of D1 charts of one day before by

an average time lag of 3.94 minutes ((1 day / 365.25 days), same

phenomenon occurs in the case of D9 charts too. If Sensex-graph of

Oct-21 is superimposed over that of Oct-22 after advancing the former

graph by 3.94 minutes, we will instantly notice some remarkable

similarity in waveform over considerable portion of 6-hour stretch. But

ther are important differences, which must be known beforeford for

successful prediction of SENSEX.

 

Fore prediction, I compare all 26 horoscopes of Bombay of today with

those of tomorrow, and make corrections in the graph of today to prepare

the graph of tomorrow. Thus, 26 x 2 = 52 horoscopes need to be judged

and then mutually compared. Then, two 12-hour national charts of today

need to be compared with those of tomorrow. In addition, national chart

of Nakshatra (eg, currently Chitra, lasting for ~14 days) and Chaitraadi

year need to be evaluated for predicting general gradient of the day in

question.

 

In additiopn to these 58 charts, navamsha charts also need to be

evaluated, which make the task onerous. If popular method of D9 is used,

there will be 27 D9 charts in 6 hours, but if bhaavachalita is divided

into 9 parts and D9 is cast in the manner of bhaavachalita, then there

may be 26 x 9 = 234 D9 charts in 6 hours. I currently use the popular

method, which has worked admirably so far in all cases and I do not feel

the need to make D9 according to detailed method. Still, it is hard to

evaluate and compare 58 + (27 x 2) = 112 charts per 6 hour.

 

I compare main bhaava-chalita charts (D1) of Bombay from 9:55 am to

16:00 pm, and used to ignore D9 (navamsha charts) due to time

constraints. Normally, D9 charts are less significant than D1, but D9

becomes more potent when some powerful influence is working positively

or negatively on 2nd house in D9 and D1 has relatively weaker forces

operating on 2nd house at that time.

 

Now, let me illustrate the most glaring error in my forecast for 22 Oct,

which was 56th line-segment ending at 57th point : it was result of 56th

D1.

 

56th D1 of Oct-21 and Oct-22 had negligible differences. But D9 had

one difference in the initial portion of 56th line-segment (before

14:19:50 pm on Oct-21) : Navaamshesh (ie, lord of 1rst house in D9) Moon

was in 4th house of its strong enemy svagrihi Venus on Oct-21 but was

in 8th house with Saturn of moolatrikona on 22nd Oct, all other things

remaining unchanged, which made the curve on 22-Oct go UP in the

initial portion of segment-56 because Moon's aspect on 2nd house was

full from 8th house.

 

But in the latter portion of segment-56, curve changed in the reverse

direction (after 14:32:07 pm on Oct-22) because lord 0f 11th Moon was in

2nd house on 21-Oct but in 6th house on 22-Oct, all other things

remaining unchanged, which made the curve on 22-Oct go DOWN in the

latter portion of segment-56.

 

In the middle portion of segment-56, we find no difference in waveform.

Thus, there are three parts of segment-56 analytically. On Oct-21,

segment-56 was initially lower and went to higher point, thus making an

ascending gradient, while the opposite occurred on 22nd Oct.

 

Neglecting D9, I found no difference in D1 of both days and therefore

projected same gradient for segment-56. But D9 suggested opposite

gradient for same segment. Since D1 of both days were same, results of

D9 must be added to those of D1, which will reverse the gradient of D1.

In this case, differences in D9 charts of both days are related to

aspects of strong planets on 2nd house, the role of D9 should be higher.

 

I am now including D9 in my stock-software, but I will not be able to

evaluate 112 charts per day because I have other assignments too. But it

is clear that if D1 and D9 are both used, a correct prediction of stock

prices is feasible ASTROLOGICALLY, which is almost impossible otherwise.

For initial 3.4 hours, my prediction was very near the actual graph, and

later important differences in D9 made 2-3 major errors out of 26

segments.

 

As far as individuals are concerned, stock trading is related to

speculation & c, but when cumulative stock prices of the whole country is

concerned, it is related SOLELY to 2nd house of wealth, because it

reflects the Market-capitalizati on of all companies which form a good

part of national wealth and influence the remaining sectores of national

economy. Influence of D9 suggests that 10th house in D1 may be important

too, although I have not analyzed any other house than 2nd GRAPHICALLY

till now.

 

I have no respect for theories not founded on practical tests. Most of

the time, I read theoretical messages, few astrologers have time for

practical, because stock-prediction is difficult and risky.

 

You can skip the following paragraph if you wish :

 

Whether one uses physical astronomy or Suryasiddhanta, graph based on D1

will show minor differences, but D9 will show major differences and

Suryasiddhanta proves to be superior astrologically. In national charts,

Suryasiddhanta is far more reliable astrologically even in the case of

D1. Suryasiddhanta proves to be accurate astrologically, and physical

astronomy is correct PHYSICALLY. The criterion of test is examination of

phalita results, and not academic debates over vain ideas. But I have

concluded that the very mention of Suryasiddhanta is repugnant to many

astrologers. I have no desire to waste my time over vain debates devoid

of practical test, and most of these astrologers are in no mood to test

Suryasiddhanta. Hence, any dialogue with them is meaningless.

 

I am perfecting my software for stock-trading, and I will post forecasts

from time to time.

 

-Vinay Jha

============ ======= ======

, " Suresh Babu "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> Dear Vinay ji,

>

> There is a reason for pointing the 57th point.

>

> As you said the waveform is correct. But the quantification was not

correct.

>

> If you look at the actual bse fugures, at this time the market hit the

lower limit almost at the closing figures (17800) while in your chart it

hit the opening figures (17900).

>

> After 53 it began to climb up above the average 16950 instead of

downlide.

>

> Yes scaling is also different. It is better you also follow the same

scheme of BSE sensex figures of 100's. This should make comparison much

more better.

>

>

> I don't know the exact method you are using, but thought the differnce

will help you further.

>

> regards

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

>

> , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote:

> >

> > Shenoy Ji,

> >

> > See the post-event analysis posted at same Kundalee website. I am

finding it very difficult to analyze all the charts completely, and time

constraint is only one problem, another problem is that some charts are

very difficult to quantify due to large number of diverse influences.

Perhaps it is better to neglect such problematic charts and present only

the reliable segments.

> >

> > 57 was correct, 56 and 60 were highly inaccurate. Had they been

correct, entire graph would have passed as reasonably good. I checked

56th just now, and found that the the actual waveform of 56th segment

almost exactly replicated the actual waveform of 56th segment of

yesterday, and so did both horoscopes at 56th segment. There may be

difference in scaling between my presentation and BSE's, but it cannot

give rise to so much erroneous plotting. The replication of both days'

waveforms is preceded and folloed with differences in waveforms, hence

slight difference in starting and ending points of segments could give

very different, actually opposite results. Perhaps such differences are

due to navamsha movements which presently I am unable to analyzed in

whole day's BSE analysis, but I am working on this theme too.

> >

> > -VJ

> > ============ ========= ======= =====

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vinay ji,

> > >

> > > Absolutly correct. There is no doubt your analysis is very good

for the day.

> > >

> > > I was just pointing to a few inconsistancies so that you can tweak

it further.

> > >

> > >

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > VJha <vinayjhaa16@ >

> > >

> > > Thu, October 22, 2009 8:23:20 PM

> > > Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

> > >

> > >

> > > Shenoy Ji,

> > >

> > > Your points are valid, but I am saying something different which

does

> > > not mean I oppose you. Look, I said without any hesitation :

" SENSEX

> > > will dip down further when the market opens again. " It proved to

be

> > > correct : in spite of 209 points drop in SENSEX yesterday, another

219

> > > points were lost today.

> > >

> > > -VJ

> > > ============ ===== ===

> > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

> > > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vinay ji,

> > > >

> > > > It seems you did not get my point fully.

> > > >

> > > > What I wrote is about practical trading oppurtunity in the whole

day

> > > and sure to bring profits. All others are risky ventures and total

gains

> > > computed as you mentioned is only a dream that exists only on an

excel

> > > sheets and what attracts novices to this game and makes them loose

> > > money.

> > > >

> > > > You have metioned correctly about the difficulty of such trades

which

> > > happens at short intervals, yet you went ahead and calculated not

only

> > > the days gain but years gains as well which is impractical.

> > > >

> > > > //Low SENSEX at the end of day yesterday was not a buying

> > > opportunity,

> > > > because SENSEX will dip down further when the market opens

again.//

> > > >

> > > > pls look at what I had mentioned

> > > > //2) Sell (short) at 14:00PM - Buy at any time later//

> > > >

> > > > it is to sell -short when the prices / index are high and buy at

a

> > > lower rate.

> > > >

> > > > but for this we have to anticipate the rise & falls correctly

and

> > > where such graphs helps.

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > VJha vinayjhaa16@ ...

> > > >

> > > > Thu, October 22, 2009 7:59:50 AM

> > > > Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Shenoy Ji,

> > > >

> > > > Upswing at 10:40 am yesterday could not be predicted by me,

because I

> > > > analyze only main charts and avoid navamsha charts : the latter

number

> > > > 234 per 6 hour and cannot be analyzed by any individual.

> > > >

> > > > Yesterday's trading opportunities which were reliably predicted

were :

> > > > points 38-39 and 47-48, and both gave a total gain of ~60 points

out

> > > > of 17200, or o.35%. It is no mean gain : if an average daily

gain of

> > > 35%

> > > > is maintained, it will result in a total profit of 257% per year

(Rs

> > > > 100 will become Rs 358) at compound rate!! But both these

> > > opportunities

> > > > were of very short durations and buying or selling so fast is

not

> > > easy.

> > > >

> > > > Low SENSEX at the end of day yesterday was not a buying

opportunity,

> > > > because SENSEX will dip down further when the market opens

again.

> > > >

> > > > Presenting only major swings requires same amount of time in

preparing

> > > > the forecasts, because unless thge entire graph is prepared one

cannot

> > > > select major swings, but less reliable portions need to be

either

> > > > omitted or highlighted.

> > > >

> > > > -Vinay Jha

> > > > ============ ========= = ====

> > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

> > > > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vinay Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you for the explanation. Inspite of errors in

computations /

> > > > assumptions there is no doubt that it is realy is commendable.

> > > > >

> > > > > The very idea that the effect of movement of planets &

resultant

> > > > analysis could be presented in graphical form itself is valid

proof of

> > > > the scientific basis of astrology.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think you should advance the posting by a day or two so that

you

> > > > shall get adequate time to study the charts. What I mean is you

don't

> > > > have to post tommorrow's chart but 2 or 3 after. This will give

you

> > > > enough time to study and make corrections as well.

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, as you said a few major swings will do for starters and

general

> > > > trend. Don't have to post continues graph.

> > > > >

> > > > > This is because, the swings both & down gives oppurtunity if

right

> > > and

> > > > losses if wrong.

> > > > >

> > > > > Today, there are 6 trade oppurtunities & atleast few of them

could

> > > be

> > > > practicaly used to make reasonable profits.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) Sell(short) at 10:40AM - Buy at lower price at 11:40AM

> > > > > 2) Sell (short) at 14:00PM - Buy at any time later

> > > > >

> > > > > Those who are tracking individual stocks can use this info to

make

> > > > enough profits.

> > > > > Another interesting aspect is that Midcap sensex did very well

> > > today.

> > > > For a small trader increase in Midcap & smallcap stocks is far

better

> > > > due to most of them having very less share value and hence could

buy

> > > > more quantity with the same investments. Even a difference of Rs

2/-

> > > can

> > > > bring reasonable profits for small investors.

> > > > >

> > > > > So as you mentioned even a few major swings in a day is very

good.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > VJha vinayjhaa16@ ...

> > > > >

> > > > > Wed, October 21, 2009 7:50:20 PM

> > > > > Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Shenoy ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Second graph contains only one notable difference with respect

to

> > > the

> > > > > first graph, but this difference was important which I

initially

> > > > > overlooked due to hurry : mutual lordship relation between

> > > debilitated

> > > > > Moon and Mars today made the Vipreet Rajyoga of debilitated

Mars in

> > > > 8th

> > > > > house defunct which I overlooked earlier. Yesterday, this

Vipreet

> > > > Rajyog

> > > > > worked because Moon was neither debilitated nor related to

Mars.

> > > > >

> > > > > This single factor gave an inverted graph for 39th horoscope

(from

> > > > 10:01

> > > > > am to 10:21 am) : the line between 39th and 40th points was

uopward

> > > > > in first graph which I corrected in the second file. First

file gave

> > > > +50

> > > > > points upswing for this single horoscope lasting 20 minutes,

while

> > > > > second file gave -60 points downswing : therefore first graph

was

> > > +110

> > > > > points higher than second graph for the entire remaining day

!! If

> > > you

> > > > > copy the first file and paste it upon second file in Adobe

Photoshop

> > > > > with same scaling and make the 40th point coincide, you will

find

> > > that

> > > > > minor changes were made by me in the second file : the only

major

> > > > change

> > > > > was correction of 39th horoscope. I am uploading such a

combined

> > > file

> > > > > ( BSE_21Oct09_ Analysis. psd ) at same website

> > > > > http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ for your scrutiny, which also

contains

> > > > > actual SENSEX as well as normalized SENSEX in thich green line

to

> > > > tally

> > > > > with the time segments of my projections.

> > > > >

> > > > > The projected graph of second file tallies amazingly with the

> > > > normalized

> > > > > SENSEX graph from 39th to 50th chart, which is a rare feat in

> > > > > astrology. Only the 39th segment was corrected, all other

segments

> > > of

> > > > > first file had either no or neglible corrections in the second

> > > > attempt.

> > > > > If you forget the second file and compare the first file with

> > > > normalized

> > > > > SENSEX with -110 points downgrading after 39th segment, you

will

> > > find

> > > > > very high correspondence upto 50th segment.

> > > > >

> > > > > After 50th segment, I used my 12- hour software to project the

> > > overall

> > > > > performance, and hurried over the segmental analysis due to

time

> > > > > constraints which I could not revise even in the second file

because

> > > I

> > > > > was adding new features to this software. I am finding it

almost

> > > > > impossible to make forecast for the entire 6 hour working day

of BSE

> > > > due

> > > > > to time involved. Perhaps it will be better to present only

those

> > > > > segments which are significant and highly reliable, and omit

those

> > > > > segments which require too much of time for analysis and

> > > > quatification.

> > > > > Sometimes quantification is almost impossible due to many

> > > incongruent

> > > > > influences operating simultaneously. Hence, I will try to

avoid such

> > > > > segments in future and concentrate only on those segments

which

> > > > require

> > > > > less time and are easily quantified. This will certainly help

in day

> > > > > trading, because entire day's graph is not needed in day

trading.

> > > Even

> > > > > one or two reliable segments per day is enough for day

trading,

> > > > provided

> > > > > accuracy is guaranteed. By accuracy I do not absolute accuracy

in

> > > > terms

> > > > > of magnitude, but accuracy in terms of upswing or downswing.

With

> > > > time,

> > > > > I will try to increase the reliability of magnitude as well.

> > > > >

> > > > > I find it difficult to analyze properly all the 33 charts (25

of

> > > > Bombay

> > > > > and 6 national) of one day and compare them one by one with

all

> > > charts

> > > > > of previous day : totalling 60 charts per day. It is even more

> > > > difficult

> > > > > to work on nearly 150 navamsha charts per six hours, which

give rise

> > > > to

> > > > > sub-harmonic component of SENSEX. Such a task is beyond the

> > > capability

> > > > > of any individual. My ultimate aim is to present a few

reliable

> > > > segments

> > > > > per day for day trading, and not the entire graph which is a

> > > > > time-consuming and complicated job.

> > > > >

> > > > > -Vinay Jha.

> > > > > ============ ========= == ===

> > > > > , " Suresh Babu "

> > > > > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Vinay jha,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When did you post the second graph? It seems to reflect the

days

> > > > > events much better?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The first graph though reflected the end of the day result

> > > > correctly,

> > > > > the morning session was way out of mark. Though it went

slightly

> > > high

> > > > > two times, the quantification you applied was very high? went

as

> > > high

> > > > as

> > > > > 17400?.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Where you able to understand the problem?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " VJha "

vinayjhaa16@

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > To all :

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The graphical forecast of stock prices of All Companies

for

> > > Bombay

> > > > > Stock

> > > > > > > Exchange for today has been uploaded at the bottom of

following

> > > > web

> > > > > page

> > > > > > > under filename " BSE_21Oct09. jpg " :

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ > http://kundalee.

wikidot.com/

> > > > > > > <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -Vinay Jha

> > > > > > > ============ ========= = ==

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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Typo Error Correction :

 

Please read the followong sentence in preceding message from me :

 

" Influence of D9 suggests that 10th house in D1 may be important too "

 

As the following corrected version :

 

" Influence of D9 suggests that 9th house in D1 may be important too "

 

-VJ

=================== ===

, " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag wrote:

>

> Dear Vinay ji,

>

> Thank you very much for the explanations. I must say it will take

atleast one hour if not more to digest what you have written. So let me

try to to understand it first.

>

> regards

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> VJha vinayjhaa16

>

> Fri, October 23, 2009 12:01:48 PM

> Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

>

>

> Shenoy Ji and others,

>

> Please read the following explanation carefully, which will convince

you

> that ASTROLOGY is fully cable of 100% accurate forecasting of SENSEX,

> and the drawbacks are merely due to our human limitations : we falter

> either in selecting the right method and approach or in complete

> evaluation and comparison of charts.

>

> First of all, let me clear the confusion. 57th segment is the

> LINE-SEGMENT following 57th POINT. Evaluate not the point but the

> succeeding the line-segment.

>

> 57th POINT signifies the horoscope of Bombay made at that particular

> time, and this horoscope remained effective for that duration

following

> 57th POINT which is dilineated by 57th LINE-SEGMENT. The 57th

> line-segment is AFTER the 57th point.

>

> Do not analyze or compare POINTS, but analyze LINE-SEGMENTS. The slope

> of 57th LINE-SEGMENT of my prediction and that of SENSEX exactly match

> each other. Hence, my prediction was almost 100% accurate as far as

57th

> horoscope was concerned. But 56th segment, marked with a big red dot

in

> the post-event analysis file, proved to be opposite in slope, and the

> reason was found to be navamsha chart which I could not analyze in the

> forecast but now I am including navamsha module in my stock-software.

> Let me explain the method.

>

> Most of D1 charts are near-replica of D1 charts of one day before by

> an average time lag of 3.94 minutes ((1 day / 365.25 days), same

> phenomenon occurs in the case of D9 charts too. If Sensex-graph of

> Oct-21 is superimposed over that of Oct-22 after advancing the former

> graph by 3.94 minutes, we will instantly notice some remarkable

> similarity in waveform over considerable portion of 6-hour stretch.

But

> ther are important differences, which must be known beforeford for

> successful prediction of SENSEX.

>

> Fore prediction, I compare all 26 horoscopes of Bombay of today with

> those of tomorrow, and make corrections in the graph of today to

prepare

> the graph of tomorrow. Thus, 26 x 2 = 52 horoscopes need to be judged

> and then mutually compared. Then, two 12-hour national charts of today

> need to be compared with those of tomorrow. In addition, national

chart

> of Nakshatra (eg, currently Chitra, lasting for ~14 days) and

Chaitraadi

> year need to be evaluated for predicting general gradient of the day

in

> question.

>

> In additiopn to these 58 charts, navamsha charts also need to be

> evaluated, which make the task onerous. If popular method of D9 is

used,

> there will be 27 D9 charts in 6 hours, but if bhaavachalita is divided

> into 9 parts and D9 is cast in the manner of bhaavachalita, then there

> may be 26 x 9 = 234 D9 charts in 6 hours. I currently use the popular

> method, which has worked admirably so far in all cases and I do not

feel

> the need to make D9 according to detailed method. Still, it is hard to

> evaluate and compare 58 + (27 x 2) = 112 charts per 6 hour.

>

> I compare main bhaava-chalita charts (D1) of Bombay from 9:55 am to

> 16:00 pm, and used to ignore D9 (navamsha charts) due to time

> constraints. Normally, D9 charts are less significant than D1, but D9

> becomes more potent when some powerful influence is working positively

> or negatively on 2nd house in D9 and D1 has relatively weaker forces

> operating on 2nd house at that time.

>

> Now, let me illustrate the most glaring error in my forecast for 22

Oct,

> which was 56th line-segment ending at 57th point : it was result of

56th

> D1.

>

> 56th D1 of Oct-21 and Oct-22 had negligible differences. But D9 had

> one difference in the initial portion of 56th line-segment (before

> 14:19:50 pm on Oct-21) : Navaamshesh (ie, lord of 1rst house in D9)

Moon

> was in 4th house of its strong enemy svagrihi Venus on Oct-21 but was

> in 8th house with Saturn of moolatrikona on 22nd Oct, all other things

> remaining unchanged, which made the curve on 22-Oct go UP in the

> initial portion of segment-56 because Moon's aspect on 2nd house was

> full from 8th house.

>

> But in the latter portion of segment-56, curve changed in the reverse

> direction (after 14:32:07 pm on Oct-22) because lord 0f 11th Moon was

in

> 2nd house on 21-Oct but in 6th house on 22-Oct, all other things

> remaining unchanged, which made the curve on 22-Oct go DOWN in the

> latter portion of segment-56.

>

> In the middle portion of segment-56, we find no difference in

waveform.

> Thus, there are three parts of segment-56 analytically. On Oct-21,

> segment-56 was initially lower and went to higher point, thus making

an

> ascending gradient, while the opposite occurred on 22nd Oct.

>

> Neglecting D9, I found no difference in D1 of both days and therefore

> projected same gradient for segment-56. But D9 suggested opposite

> gradient for same segment. Since D1 of both days were same, results of

> D9 must be added to those of D1, which will reverse the gradient of

D1.

> In this case, differences in D9 charts of both days are related to

> aspects of strong planets on 2nd house, the role of D9 should be

higher.

>

> I am now including D9 in my stock-software, but I will not be able to

> evaluate 112 charts per day because I have other assignments too. But

it

> is clear that if D1 and D9 are both used, a correct prediction of

stock

> prices is feasible ASTROLOGICALLY, which is almost impossible

otherwise.

> For initial 3.4 hours, my prediction was very near the actual graph,

and

> later important differences in D9 made 2-3 major errors out of 26

> segments.

>

> As far as individuals are concerned, stock trading is related to

> speculation & c, but when cumulative stock prices of the whole country

is

> concerned, it is related SOLELY to 2nd house of wealth, because it

> reflects the Market-capitalizati on of all companies which form a good

> part of national wealth and influence the remaining sectores of

national

> economy. Influence of D9 suggests that 10th house in D1 may be

important

> too, although I have not analyzed any other house than 2nd GRAPHICALLY

> till now.

>

> I have no respect for theories not founded on practical tests. Most of

> the time, I read theoretical messages, few astrologers have time for

> practical, because stock-prediction is difficult and risky.

>

> You can skip the following paragraph if you wish :

>

> Whether one uses physical astronomy or Suryasiddhanta, graph based on

D1

> will show minor differences, but D9 will show major differences and

> Suryasiddhanta proves to be superior astrologically. In national

charts,

> Suryasiddhanta is far more reliable astrologically even in the case of

> D1. Suryasiddhanta proves to be accurate astrologically, and physical

> astronomy is correct PHYSICALLY. The criterion of test is examination

of

> phalita results, and not academic debates over vain ideas. But I have

> concluded that the very mention of Suryasiddhanta is repugnant to many

> astrologers. I have no desire to waste my time over vain debates

devoid

> of practical test, and most of these astrologers are in no mood to

test

> Suryasiddhanta. Hence, any dialogue with them is meaningless.

>

> I am perfecting my software for stock-trading, and I will post

forecasts

> from time to time.

>

> -Vinay Jha

> ============ ======= ======

> , " Suresh Babu "

> <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Vinay ji,

> >

> > There is a reason for pointing the 57th point.

> >

> > As you said the waveform is correct. But the quantification was not

> correct.

> >

> > If you look at the actual bse fugures, at this time the market hit

the

> lower limit almost at the closing figures (17800) while in your chart

it

> hit the opening figures (17900).

> >

> > After 53 it began to climb up above the average 16950 instead of

> downlide.

> >

> > Yes scaling is also different. It is better you also follow the same

> scheme of BSE sensex figures of 100's. This should make comparison

much

> more better.

> >

> >

> > I don't know the exact method you are using, but thought the

differnce

> will help you further.

> >

> > regards

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@

wrote:

> > >

> > > Shenoy Ji,

> > >

> > > See the post-event analysis posted at same Kundalee website. I am

> finding it very difficult to analyze all the charts completely, and

time

> constraint is only one problem, another problem is that some charts

are

> very difficult to quantify due to large number of diverse influences.

> Perhaps it is better to neglect such problematic charts and present

only

> the reliable segments.

> > >

> > > 57 was correct, 56 and 60 were highly inaccurate. Had they been

> correct, entire graph would have passed as reasonably good. I checked

> 56th just now, and found that the the actual waveform of 56th segment

> almost exactly replicated the actual waveform of 56th segment of

> yesterday, and so did both horoscopes at 56th segment. There may be

> difference in scaling between my presentation and BSE's, but it cannot

> give rise to so much erroneous plotting. The replication of both days'

> waveforms is preceded and folloed with differences in waveforms, hence

> slight difference in starting and ending points of segments could give

> very different, actually opposite results. Perhaps such differences

are

> due to navamsha movements which presently I am unable to analyzed in

> whole day's BSE analysis, but I am working on this theme too.

> > >

> > > -VJ

> > > ============ ========= ======= =====

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

> <sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vinay ji,

> > > >

> > > > Absolutly correct. There is no doubt your analysis is very good

> for the day.

> > > >

> > > > I was just pointing to a few inconsistancies so that you can

tweak

> it further.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > VJha <vinayjhaa16@ >

> > > >

> > > > Thu, October 22, 2009 8:23:20 PM

> > > > Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Shenoy Ji,

> > > >

> > > > Your points are valid, but I am saying something different which

> does

> > > > not mean I oppose you. Look, I said without any hesitation :

> " SENSEX

> > > > will dip down further when the market opens again. " It proved to

> be

> > > > correct : in spite of 209 points drop in SENSEX yesterday,

another

> 219

> > > > points were lost today.

> > > >

> > > > -VJ

> > > > ============ ===== ===

> > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

> > > > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vinay ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > It seems you did not get my point fully.

> > > > >

> > > > > What I wrote is about practical trading oppurtunity in the

whole

> day

> > > > and sure to bring profits. All others are risky ventures and

total

> gains

> > > > computed as you mentioned is only a dream that exists only on an

> excel

> > > > sheets and what attracts novices to this game and makes them

loose

> > > > money.

> > > > >

> > > > > You have metioned correctly about the difficulty of such

trades

> which

> > > > happens at short intervals, yet you went ahead and calculated

not

> only

> > > > the days gain but years gains as well which is impractical.

> > > > >

> > > > > //Low SENSEX at the end of day yesterday was not a buying

> > > > opportunity,

> > > > > because SENSEX will dip down further when the market opens

> again.//

> > > > >

> > > > > pls look at what I had mentioned

> > > > > //2) Sell (short) at 14:00PM - Buy at any time later//

> > > > >

> > > > > it is to sell -short when the prices / index are high and buy

at

> a

> > > > lower rate.

> > > > >

> > > > > but for this we have to anticipate the rise & falls correctly

> and

> > > > where such graphs helps.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > VJha vinayjhaa16@ ...

> > > > >

> > > > > Thu, October 22, 2009 7:59:50 AM

> > > > > Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast : 21-10-2009

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Shenoy Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Upswing at 10:40 am yesterday could not be predicted by me,

> because I

> > > > > analyze only main charts and avoid navamsha charts : the

latter

> number

> > > > > 234 per 6 hour and cannot be analyzed by any individual.

> > > > >

> > > > > Yesterday's trading opportunities which were reliably

predicted

> were :

> > > > > points 38-39 and 47-48, and both gave a total gain of ~60

points

> out

> > > > > of 17200, or o.35%. It is no mean gain : if an average daily

> gain of

> > > > 35%

> > > > > is maintained, it will result in a total profit of 257% per

year

> (Rs

> > > > > 100 will become Rs 358) at compound rate!! But both these

> > > > opportunities

> > > > > were of very short durations and buying or selling so fast is

> not

> > > > easy.

> > > > >

> > > > > Low SENSEX at the end of day yesterday was not a buying

> opportunity,

> > > > > because SENSEX will dip down further when the market opens

> again.

> > > > >

> > > > > Presenting only major swings requires same amount of time in

> preparing

> > > > > the forecasts, because unless thge entire graph is prepared

one

> cannot

> > > > > select major swings, but less reliable portions need to be

> either

> > > > > omitted or highlighted.

> > > > >

> > > > > -Vinay Jha

> > > > > ============ ========= = ====

> > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

> > > > > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Vinay Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you for the explanation. Inspite of errors in

> computations /

> > > > > assumptions there is no doubt that it is realy is commendable.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The very idea that the effect of movement of planets &

> resultant

> > > > > analysis could be presented in graphical form itself is valid

> proof of

> > > > > the scientific basis of astrology.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think you should advance the posting by a day or two so

that

> you

> > > > > shall get adequate time to study the charts. What I mean is

you

> don't

> > > > > have to post tommorrow's chart but 2 or 3 after. This will

give

> you

> > > > > enough time to study and make corrections as well.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes, as you said a few major swings will do for starters and

> general

> > > > > trend. Don't have to post continues graph.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is because, the swings both & down gives oppurtunity if

> right

> > > > and

> > > > > losses if wrong.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Today, there are 6 trade oppurtunities & atleast few of them

> could

> > > > be

> > > > > practicaly used to make reasonable profits.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1) Sell(short) at 10:40AM - Buy at lower price at 11:40AM

> > > > > > 2) Sell (short) at 14:00PM - Buy at any time later

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Those who are tracking individual stocks can use this info

to

> make

> > > > > enough profits.

> > > > > > Another interesting aspect is that Midcap sensex did very

well

> > > > today.

> > > > > For a small trader increase in Midcap & smallcap stocks is far

> better

> > > > > due to most of them having very less share value and hence

could

> buy

> > > > > more quantity with the same investments. Even a difference of

Rs

> 2/-

> > > > can

> > > > > bring reasonable profits for small investors.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So as you mentioned even a few major swings in a day is very

> good.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > VJha vinayjhaa16@ ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Wed, October 21, 2009 7:50:20 PM

> > > > > > Re: Bombay Stock Exchange Forecast :

21-10-2009

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Shenoy ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Second graph contains only one notable difference with

respect

> to

> > > > the

> > > > > > first graph, but this difference was important which I

> initially

> > > > > > overlooked due to hurry : mutual lordship relation between

> > > > debilitated

> > > > > > Moon and Mars today made the Vipreet Rajyoga of debilitated

> Mars in

> > > > > 8th

> > > > > > house defunct which I overlooked earlier. Yesterday, this

> Vipreet

> > > > > Rajyog

> > > > > > worked because Moon was neither debilitated nor related to

> Mars.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This single factor gave an inverted graph for 39th horoscope

> (from

> > > > > 10:01

> > > > > > am to 10:21 am) : the line between 39th and 40th points was

> uopward

> > > > > > in first graph which I corrected in the second file. First

> file gave

> > > > > +50

> > > > > > points upswing for this single horoscope lasting 20 minutes,

> while

> > > > > > second file gave -60 points downswing : therefore first

graph

> was

> > > > +110

> > > > > > points higher than second graph for the entire remaining day

> !! If

> > > > you

> > > > > > copy the first file and paste it upon second file in Adobe

> Photoshop

> > > > > > with same scaling and make the 40th point coincide, you will

> find

> > > > that

> > > > > > minor changes were made by me in the second file : the only

> major

> > > > > change

> > > > > > was correction of 39th horoscope. I am uploading such a

> combined

> > > > file

> > > > > > ( BSE_21Oct09_ Analysis. psd ) at same website

> > > > > > http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ for your scrutiny, which also

> contains

> > > > > > actual SENSEX as well as normalized SENSEX in thich green

line

> to

> > > > > tally

> > > > > > with the time segments of my projections.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The projected graph of second file tallies amazingly with

the

> > > > > normalized

> > > > > > SENSEX graph from 39th to 50th chart, which is a rare feat

in

> > > > > > astrology. Only the 39th segment was corrected, all other

> segments

> > > > of

> > > > > > first file had either no or neglible corrections in the

second

> > > > > attempt.

> > > > > > If you forget the second file and compare the first file

with

> > > > > normalized

> > > > > > SENSEX with -110 points downgrading after 39th segment, you

> will

> > > > find

> > > > > > very high correspondence upto 50th segment.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After 50th segment, I used my 12- hour software to project

the

> > > > overall

> > > > > > performance, and hurried over the segmental analysis due to

> time

> > > > > > constraints which I could not revise even in the second file

> because

> > > > I

> > > > > > was adding new features to this software. I am finding it

> almost

> > > > > > impossible to make forecast for the entire 6 hour working

day

> of BSE

> > > > > due

> > > > > > to time involved. Perhaps it will be better to present only

> those

> > > > > > segments which are significant and highly reliable, and omit

> those

> > > > > > segments which require too much of time for analysis and

> > > > > quatification.

> > > > > > Sometimes quantification is almost impossible due to many

> > > > incongruent

> > > > > > influences operating simultaneously. Hence, I will try to

> avoid such

> > > > > > segments in future and concentrate only on those segments

> which

> > > > > require

> > > > > > less time and are easily quantified. This will certainly

help

> in day

> > > > > > trading, because entire day's graph is not needed in day

> trading.

> > > > Even

> > > > > > one or two reliable segments per day is enough for day

> trading,

> > > > > provided

> > > > > > accuracy is guaranteed. By accuracy I do not absolute

accuracy

> in

> > > > > terms

> > > > > > of magnitude, but accuracy in terms of upswing or downswing.

> With

> > > > > time,

> > > > > > I will try to increase the reliability of magnitude as well.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I find it difficult to analyze properly all the 33 charts

(25

> of

> > > > > Bombay

> > > > > > and 6 national) of one day and compare them one by one with

> all

> > > > charts

> > > > > > of previous day : totalling 60 charts per day. It is even

more

> > > > > difficult

> > > > > > to work on nearly 150 navamsha charts per six hours, which

> give rise

> > > > > to

> > > > > > sub-harmonic component of SENSEX. Such a task is beyond the

> > > > capability

> > > > > > of any individual. My ultimate aim is to present a few

> reliable

> > > > > segments

> > > > > > per day for day trading, and not the entire graph which is a

> > > > > > time-consuming and complicated job.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -Vinay Jha.

> > > > > > ============ ========= == ===

> > > > > > , " Suresh Babu "

> > > > > > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Vinay jha,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > When did you post the second graph? It seems to reflect

the

> days

> > > > > > events much better?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The first graph though reflected the end of the day result

> > > > > correctly,

> > > > > > the morning session was way out of mark. Though it went

> slightly

> > > > high

> > > > > > two times, the quantification you applied was very high?

went

> as

> > > > high

> > > > > as

> > > > > > 17400?.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Where you able to understand the problem?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " VJha "

> vinayjhaa16@

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > To all :

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The graphical forecast of stock prices of All Companies

> for

> > > > Bombay

> > > > > > Stock

> > > > > > > > Exchange for today has been uploaded at the bottom of

> following

> > > > > web

> > > > > > page

> > > > > > > > under filename " BSE_21Oct09. jpg " :

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ > http://kundalee.

> wikidot.com/

> > > > > > > > <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -Vinay Jha

> > > > > > > > ============ ========= = ==

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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