Guest guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Resp. members, Hari Om, I wonder as how should we explain the phenomenon of intercaste, interreligion, interstate and intercontinental marriages to settle the accounts of previous lives? or are we opening the new accounts? This phenomenon has been ever increasing with the effect of globalization; This has also increased the number of divorces and multiple marriages. I will very much appreciate your feedback on the issues. Thanks, Sapna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Sapna Ji, The issue you raised is more about marraige and the trends that one witnesses these days.more you travel and experience social life more are traversities.. where as karmas arising out of past and present are indicative in the gamut of horoscope once you consider lagan,Pancham and Navam. Implications of these houses.their lords.togther with their signs and asterisms guiding the palnets and houses summerised in Horoscopes. What is fascinating is BALANCE SHEET of past good and bad deeds arising out of Sanchita Karmas are inidicated by Sanchit Karmas.The story of the karmas does not end there.New Accounts do get opened whether v understand intricately or not.There are KARMIC PLANETS PERFORMING THEIR ROLES BY WAY NODES,mainly Rahu and Ketu As Swamy Vivekananda said as a Human being We are having Highest order of birth to performs with wisdom and to traverse further. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Sat, 10/24/09, sapnag1968 <sapnag1968 wrote: sapnag1968 <sapnag1968 Prarabadh Saturday, October 24, 2009, 7:00 PM Resp. members, Hari Om, I wonder as how should we explain the phenomenon of intercaste, interreligion, interstate and intercontinental marriages to settle the accounts of previous lives? or are we opening the new accounts? This phenomenon has been ever increasing with the effect of globalization; This has also increased the number of divorces and multiple marriages. I will very much appreciate your feedback on the issues. Thanks, Sapna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Dear Mr.Krishanan: How do we evaluate our prarabhda and sanchita karmas. If we know our sins in previous births, we can atleast try rectification. I have trouble in so many features and would like to know about my sins. Dev --- On Sun, 10/25/09, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 Re: Prarabadh Received: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 3:12 AM Sapna Ji, The issue you raised is more about marraige and the trends that one witnesses these days.more you travel and experience social life more are traversities. . where as karmas arising out of past and present are indicative in the gamut of horoscope once you consider lagan,Pancham and Navam. Implications of these houses.their lords.togther with their signs and asterisms guiding the palnets and houses summerised in Horoscopes. What is fascinating is BALANCE SHEET of past good and bad deeds arising out of Sanchita Karmas are inidicated by Sanchit Karmas.The story of the karmas does not end there.New Accounts do get opened whether v understand intricately or not.There are KARMIC PLANETS PERFORMING THEIR ROLES BY WAY NODES,mainly Rahu and Ketu As Swamy Vivekananda said as a Human being We are having Highest order of birth to performs with wisdom and to traverse further. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Sat, 10/24/09, sapnag1968 <sapnag1968 > wrote: sapnag1968 <sapnag1968 > Prarabadh Saturday, October 24, 2009, 7:00 PM Resp. members, Hari Om, I wonder as how should we explain the phenomenon of intercaste, interreligion, interstate and intercontinental marriages to settle the accounts of previous lives? or are we opening the new accounts? This phenomenon has been ever increasing with the effect of globalization; This has also increased the number of divorces and multiple marriages. I will very much appreciate your feedback on the issues. Thanks, Sapna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Resp. Shri Krishnan ji, Hari Om, Thank you for your time and replying to my message. For me, it is quite professional and technical reply which I understand only a little according my understanding and level of knowledge. However, I understand that we meet, associate and relate people in this present world according to our balance sheet of past lives to settle our accounts either by giving or taking some thing from each other. Why I should have come to USA to serve these people who are totally stranger to me in all respect ( caste, creed, religion, geography and perhaps the HISTORY too ) ? or why are they paying me the dues for my living here ? Therefore, it is not the question only of marriages and divorces but totality of all relationships, friends and colleagues here while the most immediate family members and intimate friends are left back in India to whom either I owe or they owe to me etc etc. with due regards and greetings, Sapna ------\ ------------------------ , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Sapna Ji, > The issue you raised is more about marraige and the trends that one witnesses these days.more you travel and experience social life more are traversities.. > where as karmas arising out of past and present are indicative in the gamut of horoscope once you consider lagan,Pancham and Navam. > Implications of these houses.their lords.togther with their signs and asterisms guiding the palnets and houses summerised in Horoscopes. > What is fascinating is BALANCE SHEET of past good and bad deeds arising out of Sanchita Karmas are inidicated by Sanchit Karmas.The story of the karmas does not end there.New Accounts do get opened whether v understand intricately or not.There are KARMIC PLANETS PERFORMING THEIR ROLES BY WAY NODES,mainly Rahu and Ketu > As Swamy Vivekananda said as a Human being We are having Highest order of birth to performs with wisdom and to traverse further. > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, sapnag1968 sapnag1968 wrote: > > > sapnag1968 sapnag1968 > Prarabadh > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 7:00 PM Resp. members, Hari Om, > > I wonder as how should we explain the phenomenon of intercaste, > interreligion, interstate and intercontinental marriages to settle the > accounts of previous lives? or are we opening the new accounts? This > phenomenon has been ever increasing with the effect of globalization; > This has also increased the number of divorces and multiple marriages. > > I will very much appreciate your feedback on the issues. > > Thanks, > > Sapna > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Dear Members, The drive to move away to foreign land in our classics given the same honourable status as satying in the country for one or other reason.Even the houses that drives a perosn to foreign lands or for other purpose Astrology has a provided for different over view. where as our karmas and the opportunities they provided in different way,if considered in a philosophical way,we also await for opportnuities to shour our gratitude to attaend in our humble way to: " most immediatefamily members and intimate friends are left back in India " and also for people to whom we respect treat and past of karams is out of karmas which we oblige and perform very enthusiastically.Issue of kith and kin and itherwise are issues as we understand and accept. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Sun, 10/25/09, sapnag1968 <sapnag1968 wrote: sapnag1968 <sapnag1968 Re: Prarabadh Sunday, October 25, 2009, 5:00 PM Resp. Shri Krishnan ji, Hari Om, Thank you for your time and replying to my message. For me, it is quite professional and technical reply which I understand only a little according my understanding and level of knowledge. However, I understand that we meet, associate and relate people in this present world according to our balance sheet of past lives to settle our accounts either by giving or taking some thing from each other. Why I should have come to USA to serve these people who are totally stranger to me in all respect ( caste, creed, religion, geography and perhaps the HISTORY too ) ? or why are they paying me the dues for my living here ? Therefore, it is not the question only of marriages and divorces but totality of all relationships, friends and colleagues here while the most immediate family members and intimate friends are left back in India to whom either I owe or they owe to me etc etc. with due regards and greetings, Sapna ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\ ------------ --------- --- , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Sapna Ji, > The issue you raised is more about marraige and the trends that one witnesses these days.more you travel and experience social life more are traversities. . > where as karmas arising out of past and present are indicative in the gamut of horoscope once you consider lagan,Pancham and Navam. > Implications of these houses.their lords.togther with their signs and asterisms guiding the palnets and houses summerised in Horoscopes. > What is fascinating is BALANCE SHEET of past good and bad deeds arising out of Sanchita Karmas are inidicated by Sanchit Karmas.The story of the karmas does not end there.New Accounts do get opened whether v understand intricately or not.There are KARMIC PLANETS PERFORMING THEIR ROLES BY WAY NODES,mainly Rahu and Ketu > As Swamy Vivekananda said as a Human being We are having Highest order of birth to performs with wisdom and to traverse further. > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, sapnag1968 sapnag1968@. .. wrote: > > > sapnag1968 sapnag1968@. .. > Prarabadh > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 7:00 PM Resp. members, Hari Om, > > I wonder as how should we explain the phenomenon of intercaste, > interreligion, interstate and intercontinental marriages to settle the > accounts of previous lives? or are we opening the new accounts? This > phenomenon has been ever increasing with the effect of globalization; > This has also increased the number of divorces and multiple marriages. > > I will very much appreciate your feedback on the issues. > > Thanks, > > Sapna > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Dear Members, I am not sure whether to write in pure techanical way or other ways. Every thing in this world is absolutely interconnected and is interdependable, Whether it is human being or others. Our own karma leads us to different yonis. The attraction or repulsion is in every moment of sojourn of soul, also governed by the three gunas & its combinations. Sometimes, we are drawn to the net of relationships due to past debt & relationships / karma. This life also plays a part in the game and new relationships are created whether by attraction or repulsion , love or hate, this in turn becomes becomes a starting point or even the cause of next birth & death cycles. It is a vicious cycle and which every soul ultimately endeavers to break at one point of time. This may not happen in this birth itself. Every kind of wish Every kind of earning Every kind of love Every kind of Hate Every kind of Help provided Every kind of Help received Every kind of Cheating done Every kind of Cheated by others Every kind of support provided Every kind of support received Every action leads to bandhana & Rina, whether it is past or new. This has been time & again through many stories in puranas and they also show us the way to break out of this Rina Bandana. It is natural that when we see something beautifull, we immediately feel a longing to own it. This leads us spend time, effort in aquiring it. After obtaining it and enjoing it for some time, one finds that it has become less & less atrractive and looses interest in it. naturaly discards it and go for others. However the mind tends to get tired of this process and searches for that which never looses its attrtaction and ever beautifull. As the soul goes through these cycles, it shed its bandhana and finaly starts on journey in search of the ultimate attraction after having dissatified by all others, the paramatma. Till then, the soul is in the grip of kalachakra. This grip of Kalachakra is symetric to the centrifugal force and why we take pradakshina at temples. Planets indicate these paths woven by the Gunas & their qualities due to which all these attraction & repulsion occurs, whether we understand them correctly or not. Recently a friend of mine told a strange story which clearly indicates some of the phenomena. They are not brahmins but " Nair " caste and very strict vegetarians. He is Ganesha Upasaka and does Ganapathy japa/ Homa/ tarpana every day home. His mother was sick due to bone cancer aged about 55 and just about few days before her death, She expressed her wish to have Chicken as food. My friend was surprised & take back by this wish. She had never touched non-vegetarian food nor her parents family are non-vegetarians. So there is no way, she be attracted to such a taste. She was pious lady and always recited panchakshari mantra. However, since he knew her condition, he obliged. Within a few days (less than a week) she left him. It is not difficult to assume that her ailment caused by malefic planets also triggered the rajasic/tamasic gunas and may be wish / relationship that existed or remained unfulfilled in any of the past life. We cannot be sure. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. , " sapnag1968 " <sapnag1968 wrote: > > Resp. members, Hari Om, > > I wonder as how should we explain the phenomenon of intercaste, > interreligion, interstate and intercontinental marriages to settle the > accounts of previous lives? or are we opening the new accounts? This > phenomenon has been ever increasing with the effect of globalization; > This has also increased the number of divorces and multiple marriages. > > I will very much appreciate your feedback on the issues. > > Thanks, > > Sapna > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Jai Shri Krishna! to My Gurujan & Friends Main bahut kuchh to nahi janta par fir bhi is vishay me kuchh kahna chahta hoon, Hum jo bhi kuchh kar ya sah rahe hain us sab me sirf hamara Prarabddh hi nahi balki Humare dwara poorva janmon aur vartman me kiya ja rahe karmo ka milajula fal hota hai. Jiski bajah se hum sthiti vishesh me ji rahe hote hain, ya karm vishesh kar rahe hote hain. aur kabhi jab hum par Ishwar ki Kirpa hoti hai to hum sirf un karmo ko karne ke Nimitt matra hote hain jab ki karne aur karwane wale to sirf Bhagwan hi hain. waise to hum aksar dukhi hote rahte hain lekin hume adhik dukhi nahi hona chahiye kyonki jab hum par dukh aate hain tabhi hum bhagwan ko apne aur bhi jiyada paass pate hain, to isliye prem se jiyo aur doosron ki jitni help ho sake wo karne ki koshish karni chahiye. Thanks & Regard LUCKY TOMAR On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuagwrote: > > > Dear Members, > > I am not sure whether to write in pure techanical way or other ways. > > Every thing in this world is absolutely interconnected and is > interdependable, Whether it is human being or others. Our own karma leads us > to different yonis. The attraction or repulsion is in every moment of > sojourn of soul, also governed by the three gunas & its combinations. > > Sometimes, we are drawn to the net of relationships due to past debt & > relationships / karma. This life also plays a part in the game and new > relationships are created whether by attraction or repulsion , love or hate, > this in turn becomes becomes a starting point or even the cause of next > birth & death cycles. It is a vicious cycle and which every soul ultimately > endeavers to break at one point of time. This may not happen in this birth > itself. > > Every kind of wish > Every kind of earning > Every kind of love > Every kind of Hate > Every kind of Help provided > Every kind of Help received > Every kind of Cheating done > Every kind of Cheated by others > Every kind of support provided > Every kind of support received > > Every action leads to bandhana & Rina, whether it is past or new. > > This has been time & again through many stories in puranas and they also > show us the way to break out of this Rina Bandana. > > It is natural that when we see something beautifull, we immediately feel a > longing to own it. This leads us spend time, effort in aquiring it. After > obtaining it and enjoing it for some time, one finds that it has become less > & less atrractive and looses interest in it. naturaly discards it and go for > others. However the mind tends to get tired of this process and searches for > that which never looses its attrtaction and ever beautifull. > > As the soul goes through these cycles, it shed its bandhana and finaly > starts on journey in search of the ultimate attraction after having > dissatified by all others, the paramatma. > > Till then, the soul is in the grip of kalachakra. > > This grip of Kalachakra is symetric to the centrifugal force and why we > take pradakshina at temples. > > Planets indicate these paths woven by the Gunas & their qualities due to > which all these attraction & repulsion occurs, whether we understand them > correctly or not. > > Recently a friend of mine told a strange story which clearly indicates some > of the phenomena. > > They are not brahmins but " Nair " caste and very strict vegetarians. He is > Ganesha Upasaka and does Ganapathy japa/ Homa/ tarpana every day home. > > His mother was sick due to bone cancer aged about 55 and just about few > days before her death, She expressed her wish to have Chicken as food. > > My friend was surprised & take back by this wish. She had never touched > non-vegetarian food nor her parents family are non-vegetarians. So there is > no way, she be attracted to such a taste. > > She was pious lady and always recited panchakshari mantra. > > However, since he knew her condition, he obliged. Within a few days (less > than a week) she left him. > > It is not difficult to assume that her ailment caused by malefic planets > also triggered the rajasic/tamasic gunas and may be wish / relationship that > existed or remained unfulfilled in any of the past life. We cannot be sure. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > <%40>, > " sapnag1968 " <sapnag1968 wrote: > > > > Resp. members, Hari Om, > > > > I wonder as how should we explain the phenomenon of intercaste, > > interreligion, interstate and intercontinental marriages to settle the > > accounts of previous lives? or are we opening the new accounts? This > > phenomenon has been ever increasing with the effect of globalization; > > This has also increased the number of divorces and multiple marriages. > > > > I will very much appreciate your feedback on the issues. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sapna > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Resp. Suresh ji, Jai Shri Krishna, Very convincing explaination, thank you very much for your very elaborated and simple explaination.I know that soul is kind of innert, does not take part in our actions and decisions, hence not even concerned with all these worldly things but it always carries Physical Body, Astral Body and Causal Body.According to the balance sheet of past lives, caual body and astral body take a YONI ( the physical body in a specific culture etc...... ). As you already well said that it is a very complex process, perhaps beyond our comprehension. with regards and greetings, Sapna ----------------------- , " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Dear Members, > > I am not sure whether to write in pure techanical way or other ways. > > Every thing in this world is absolutely interconnected and is interdependable, Whether it is human being or others. Our own karma leads us to different yonis. The attraction or repulsion is in every moment of sojourn of soul, also governed by the three gunas & its combinations. > > Sometimes, we are drawn to the net of relationships due to past debt & relationships / karma. This life also plays a part in the game and new relationships are created whether by attraction or repulsion , love or hate, this in turn becomes becomes a starting point or even the cause of next birth & death cycles. It is a vicious cycle and which every soul ultimately endeavers to break at one point of time. This may not happen in this birth itself. > > Every kind of wish > Every kind of earning > Every kind of love > Every kind of Hate > Every kind of Help provided > Every kind of Help received > Every kind of Cheating done > Every kind of Cheated by others > Every kind of support provided > Every kind of support received > > Every action leads to bandhana & Rina, whether it is past or new. > > This has been time & again through many stories in puranas and they also show us the way to break out of this Rina Bandana. > > It is natural that when we see something beautifull, we immediately feel a longing to own it. This leads us spend time, effort in aquiring it. After obtaining it and enjoing it for some time, one finds that it has become less & less atrractive and looses interest in it. naturaly discards it and go for others. However the mind tends to get tired of this process and searches for that which never looses its attrtaction and ever beautifull. > > As the soul goes through these cycles, it shed its bandhana and finaly starts on journey in search of the ultimate attraction after having dissatified by all others, the paramatma. > > Till then, the soul is in the grip of kalachakra. > > This grip of Kalachakra is symetric to the centrifugal force and why we take pradakshina at temples. > > Planets indicate these paths woven by the Gunas & their qualities due to which all these attraction & repulsion occurs, whether we understand them correctly or not. > > Recently a friend of mine told a strange story which clearly indicates some of the phenomena. > > They are not brahmins but " Nair " caste and very strict vegetarians. He is Ganesha Upasaka and does Ganapathy japa/ Homa/ tarpana every day home. > > His mother was sick due to bone cancer aged about 55 and just about few days before her death, She expressed her wish to have Chicken as food. > > My friend was surprised & take back by this wish. She had never touched non-vegetarian food nor her parents family are non-vegetarians. So there is no way, she be attracted to such a taste. > > She was pious lady and always recited panchakshari mantra. > > However, since he knew her condition, he obliged. Within a few days (less than a week) she left him. > > It is not difficult to assume that her ailment caused by malefic planets also triggered the rajasic/tamasic gunas and may be wish / relationship that existed or remained unfulfilled in any of the past life. We cannot be sure. > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sapnag1968 " <sapnag1968@> wrote: > > > > Resp. members, Hari Om, > > > > I wonder as how should we explain the phenomenon of intercaste, > > interreligion, interstate and intercontinental marriages to settle the > > accounts of previous lives? or are we opening the new accounts? This > > phenomenon has been ever increasing with the effect of globalization; > > This has also increased the number of divorces and multiple marriages. > > > > I will very much appreciate your feedback on the issues. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sapna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Shri Tomar ji, Jai Shri Krishna, Aapna jo bhi likha hai woh to sach hai. Our special situation whatever and wherever , it is, it is due to totality of our past and present Karmas. At one time, Swami Brahama Nand ji, one of the top trustee of ISKON, said that you people born in India are very fortunate that you are born in Manav Karam Bhumi- India, we people born elsewhere , perhaps will take thousands of lives to be born in your stage. By simply taking the birth in India itself shows that you have advanced so much in your spiritual journey. And one of my very close friend who is very successful in Canada and very spiritual, said that it is some of my bad karma that I left India and came to live in Canada under the false illusions.Many reasonable people feel the same way at one time or the other. These things are self explainatory. Let us carry on the positive path under the guidance of GOD who prgrammes us for our actions. with greetings, Sapna ------------------------------ , Lucky Tomar <luckytomer1982 wrote: > > Jai Shri Krishna! > to My Gurujan & Friends > Main bahut kuchh to nahi janta par fir bhi is vishay me kuchh kahna chahta > hoon, > Hum jo bhi kuchh kar ya sah rahe hain us sab me sirf hamara Prarabddh hi > nahi > balki Humare dwara poorva janmon aur vartman me kiya ja rahe karmo ka > milajula > fal hota hai. Jiski bajah se hum sthiti vishesh me ji rahe hote hain, ya > karm vishesh > kar rahe hote hain. aur kabhi jab hum par Ishwar ki Kirpa hoti hai to hum > sirf un karmo > ko karne ke Nimitt matra hote hain jab ki karne aur karwane wale to sirf > Bhagwan hi hain. > > waise to hum aksar dukhi hote rahte hain lekin hume adhik dukhi nahi hona > chahiye > kyonki jab hum par dukh aate hain tabhi hum bhagwan ko apne aur bhi jiyada > paass pate > hain, to isliye prem se jiyo aur doosron ki jitni help ho sake wo karne ki > koshish karni chahiye. > Thanks & Regard > LUCKY TOMAR > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuagwrote: > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > I am not sure whether to write in pure techanical way or other ways. > > > > Every thing in this world is absolutely interconnected and is > > interdependable, Whether it is human being or others. Our own karma leads us > > to different yonis. The attraction or repulsion is in every moment of > > sojourn of soul, also governed by the three gunas & its combinations. > > > > Sometimes, we are drawn to the net of relationships due to past debt & > > relationships / karma. This life also plays a part in the game and new > > relationships are created whether by attraction or repulsion , love or hate, > > this in turn becomes becomes a starting point or even the cause of next > > birth & death cycles. It is a vicious cycle and which every soul ultimately > > endeavers to break at one point of time. This may not happen in this birth > > itself. > > > > Every kind of wish > > Every kind of earning > > Every kind of love > > Every kind of Hate > > Every kind of Help provided > > Every kind of Help received > > Every kind of Cheating done > > Every kind of Cheated by others > > Every kind of support provided > > Every kind of support received > > > > Every action leads to bandhana & Rina, whether it is past or new. > > > > This has been time & again through many stories in puranas and they also > > show us the way to break out of this Rina Bandana. > > > > It is natural that when we see something beautifull, we immediately feel a > > longing to own it. This leads us spend time, effort in aquiring it. After > > obtaining it and enjoing it for some time, one finds that it has become less > > & less atrractive and looses interest in it. naturaly discards it and go for > > others. However the mind tends to get tired of this process and searches for > > that which never looses its attrtaction and ever beautifull. > > > > As the soul goes through these cycles, it shed its bandhana and finaly > > starts on journey in search of the ultimate attraction after having > > dissatified by all others, the paramatma. > > > > Till then, the soul is in the grip of kalachakra. > > > > This grip of Kalachakra is symetric to the centrifugal force and why we > > take pradakshina at temples. > > > > Planets indicate these paths woven by the Gunas & their qualities due to > > which all these attraction & repulsion occurs, whether we understand them > > correctly or not. > > > > Recently a friend of mine told a strange story which clearly indicates some > > of the phenomena. > > > > They are not brahmins but " Nair " caste and very strict vegetarians. He is > > Ganesha Upasaka and does Ganapathy japa/ Homa/ tarpana every day home. > > > > His mother was sick due to bone cancer aged about 55 and just about few > > days before her death, She expressed her wish to have Chicken as food. > > > > My friend was surprised & take back by this wish. She had never touched > > non-vegetarian food nor her parents family are non-vegetarians. So there is > > no way, she be attracted to such a taste. > > > > She was pious lady and always recited panchakshari mantra. > > > > However, since he knew her condition, he obliged. Within a few days (less > > than a week) she left him. > > > > It is not difficult to assume that her ailment caused by malefic planets > > also triggered the rajasic/tamasic gunas and may be wish / relationship that > > existed or remained unfulfilled in any of the past life. We cannot be sure. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > > > <%40>, > > " sapnag1968 " <sapnag1968@> wrote: > > > > > > Resp. members, Hari Om, > > > > > > I wonder as how should we explain the phenomenon of intercaste, > > > interreligion, interstate and intercontinental marriages to settle the > > > accounts of previous lives? or are we opening the new accounts? This > > > phenomenon has been ever increasing with the effect of globalization; > > > This has also increased the number of divorces and multiple marriages. > > > > > > I will very much appreciate your feedback on the issues. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Sapna > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Dear Sapna & others Thank you, An yet I have to differ from your view point that soul / Atma is inert and does not take part in actions. It does through the medium of mind & body. It is the soul that seeks different yonis. It is the soul that has the three gunas - satwic, rajasic & tamasic & its combinations and these gunas in turn manifest through the mind & body. and the mind modifies these gunas also. body simply reflects the minds. It is a two way trafic. The first step is to break this two way trafic, which Shree krishna beautifully laid in Bhagavat Geeta " karmanye vadhikarasthe....... " . It is not as easy as said but the proper understanding and constant efforts shall win the tug of war. That is why a brahmin during sandhyavandana pray atmane namaH, Paramatmane namaH. In fact the fourth player in this game - Paramatma which every soul untimately seeks did this in the begining itself. That is why Shree krishna said, It was I who created these gunas, but they don't exist in me - the qualities that make the Atma. The word Nirguna - without qualities, in fact points to this deeper picture. Prana is the channel Atma uses to enter these different bodies and just as it is difficult for water to flow upwards, it is not easy for it to move up through the chakras and once it does, it starts on its final journey to break this cycle of birth & death and reach its ultimate aim of supreme bliss when it breaks through Saharara. Frankly speaking, if you ask me Do you understand what you have written - very little Do you follow it - trying very hard Have you experienced it - a micro little - just as ant has tasted a speck of sugar Can you prove any of it- Absolutely no. So that is it. End of the story. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ sapnag1968 <sapnag1968 Mon, October 26, 2009 11:08:00 PM Re: Prarabadh Resp. Suresh ji, Jai Shri Krishna, Very convincing explaination, thank you very much for your very elaborated and simple explaination. I know that soul is kind of innert, does not take part in our actions and decisions, hence not even concerned with all these worldly things but it always carries Physical Body, Astral Body and Causal Body.According to the balance sheet of past lives, caual body and astral body take a YONI ( the physical body in a specific culture etc...... ). As you already well said that it is a very complex process, perhaps beyond our comprehension. with regards and greetings, Sapna ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- , " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Members, > > I am not sure whether to write in pure techanical way or other ways. > > Every thing in this world is absolutely interconnected and is interdependable, Whether it is human being or others. Our own karma leads us to different yonis. The attraction or repulsion is in every moment of sojourn of soul, also governed by the three gunas & its combinations. > > Sometimes, we are drawn to the net of relationships due to past debt & relationships / karma. This life also plays a part in the game and new relationships are created whether by attraction or repulsion , love or hate, this in turn becomes becomes a starting point or even the cause of next birth & death cycles. It is a vicious cycle and which every soul ultimately endeavers to break at one point of time. This may not happen in this birth itself. > > Every kind of wish > Every kind of earning > Every kind of love > Every kind of Hate > Every kind of Help provided > Every kind of Help received > Every kind of Cheating done > Every kind of Cheated by others > Every kind of support provided > Every kind of support received > > Every action leads to bandhana & Rina, whether it is past or new. > > This has been time & again through many stories in puranas and they also show us the way to break out of this Rina Bandana. > > It is natural that when we see something beautifull, we immediately feel a longing to own it. This leads us spend time, effort in aquiring it. After obtaining it and enjoing it for some time, one finds that it has become less & less atrractive and looses interest in it. naturaly discards it and go for others. However the mind tends to get tired of this process and searches for that which never looses its attrtaction and ever beautifull. > > As the soul goes through these cycles, it shed its bandhana and finaly starts on journey in search of the ultimate attraction after having dissatified by all others, the paramatma. > > Till then, the soul is in the grip of kalachakra. > > This grip of Kalachakra is symetric to the centrifugal force and why we take pradakshina at temples. > > Planets indicate these paths woven by the Gunas & their qualities due to which all these attraction & repulsion occurs, whether we understand them correctly or not. > > Recently a friend of mine told a strange story which clearly indicates some of the phenomena. > > They are not brahmins but " Nair " caste and very strict vegetarians. He is Ganesha Upasaka and does Ganapathy japa/ Homa/ tarpana every day home. > > His mother was sick due to bone cancer aged about 55 and just about few days before her death, She expressed her wish to have Chicken as food. > > My friend was surprised & take back by this wish. She had never touched non-vegetarian food nor her parents family are non-vegetarians. So there is no way, she be attracted to such a taste. > > She was pious lady and always recited panchakshari mantra. > > However, since he knew her condition, he obliged. Within a few days (less than a week) she left him. > > It is not difficult to assume that her ailment caused by malefic planets also triggered the rajasic/tamasic gunas and may be wish / relationship that existed or remained unfulfilled in any of the past life. We cannot be sure. > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sapnag1968 " <sapnag1968@ > wrote: > > > > Resp. members, Hari Om, > > > > I wonder as how should we explain the phenomenon of intercaste, > > interreligion, interstate and intercontinental marriages to settle the > > accounts of previous lives? or are we opening the new accounts? This > > phenomenon has been ever increasing with the effect of globalization; > > This has also increased the number of divorces and multiple marriages. > > > > I will very much appreciate your feedback on the issues. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sapna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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