Regarding birth time correction in every case

October 26, 2009

Mishraji,

Other than head/toe, what about the first breath or cry as suggested in some

texts ( I am not an expert in this area). Just for your information, When I

delivered my child, I heard a weak cry even before his head came out. That cry

was heard only by me and by nobody else. That would put his BT 30secs before the

hospital recorded time. That time was recorded by me. It does not change any of

his charts. However, his janma nakshatra is Anuradha, hospital recorded time

(00.53hrs)gives kunda in jyeshta. Interestingly, my recorded time (00.52.30)

gives kunda in Anuradha itself.

Regards,

bhagavathi

, Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

>

> Respected Bhagwati Madam,Sadar Namaste,Please send me birth details of your

friend.I will tell her/him correct birth time range using (1)Krishnamurty

Ayanamsa(2)Lahiri Aynamsa(3) Raman Ayanamsa or any other which you desire.It

can not be 50 BTs.Because if sub lord and sub sub lord of ascendant is once

noted it must match with Moon's Star lord and sub lord Or Star lord,sub lord

,sub sub lord of Ascendant and Moon will match.Madam 2*2=4 .It may vary only if

different aynamsa is taken.If at the time of birth time is actually noted by

doctor or nurse even then slight difference may occur because what and when time

was noted(1) At the time of Sirodaya / when toes comes out but rarely(2) At that

time when half of the body of baby comes out of womb.(3) At that time when whole

of the body of baby was taken out of womb either in normal delivery or by

Seizure .Sub lord principle tells the time range during which birth has taken

place.This time range also vary

> in each case.I have also found that in few cases(near about 5% cases this

rule is not helpful).I don't have experience about Kunda Kriya .

> What I calculate in this regard is hoped

to be 100% correct.But what exact moment should be taken of time of birth is not

seen / read by me any where :-

> (1) where is time range-This is the time range during which each

birth completes.Birth of child takes time as firstly head / toe comes out of

womb and gradually the whole body if it is normal birth and birth does not take

place in a particular second

> (2) Where birth time is told incorrect and on rectification two

ranges of birth time is found and in one range sub sub lord of ascendant does

not signify at least 1st cusp.

> (3) Where birth time is told incorrect and on rectification two

ranges of birth time is found and in one range sub sub lord of ascendant does

signify at least Ist cusp.

> With thanks and regards,

> Dhirendra Nath Misra

>

> ________________________________

> Bhagavathi Hariharan <bhagavathi_hariharan

> Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra

> Sun, October 25, 2009 11:01:08 PM

> Re: Birth time rectification between 10:55:55PM to 10:56:10PM

>

> Mishraji,

>

> I do not do KP astro at all. In KP, it is a common practise to rectify by this

principle. I have not seen any of my ancestors rectify BT. There are lot of

other factors to be considered if you follow traditional astrology. I use JHora

and chitrapaksha. JHora has flaws too, but it has served my purpose. I did try

kunda method of rectification but even that did not work all the time. Since I

do not use any D-charts other than D-9, I do not need to rectify BT to that

finer levels. A friend of mine showed his chart to 20 astrologers, he has more

than 50 BTs now.

>

> This is not the way I follow, so I am not the right person to ask about Bt

rectification

>

> Regards,

> bhagavathi

>

--- On Fri, 10/23/09, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:

>

> >Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra

> >Birth time rectification between 10:55:55PM to 10:56:10PM

> > " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan

> >Friday, October 23, 2009, 7:28 PM

> >

> >Respected Bhagwati Ji ,Sadar Namasthe, By Nurse I was told birth time of my

daughter as 11:00:00PM on 24.06.1995 at District BASTI(U.P) Longitude

82E44,Latitude 26N48.But I found that given time was wrong because I checked and

found that sub lord of ascendant does not match with star lord of Moon and

sub-sub lord of ascendant does not match with sub lord of Moon.I use K.P

Ayanamsa and Parasar Light Geo Vision 6.1 Software.

> > With K.P.Rules I tried to rectify the birth

time and found that between 10:55:55PM to 10:56:10PM the sub lord of ascendant

and star lord of Moon is Sun and similarly Sub-sub lord of ascendant and Sub

lord of Moon is Saturn.As a rule it is now proved that birth of my daughter has

taken place between 10:55:55PM to 10:56:10PM.But there is still uncertainty of

15 seconds time and Sub-Sub lord of 2nd, 4th,7th,8th,10th,11th and 12th cusp are

changed after 15 seconds and Rasi lords,Nakshatra lords,Sub Lords of each

cusp are the same from 10:55:55PM to 10:56:10PM.Variation of 15 seconds also

changes the Sukshma & Pran Dasa periods.

> > In this condition how to arrive at correct

birth time and as to what birth time should be taken between 10:55:55PM to

10:56:10PM.Due to change of sub-sub lord of 2nd, 4th,7th,8th,10th,11th and 12th

cusp I have put this query to be answered by competent astrologers with

reasonings and corresponding Rules .If possible please attach complete Horoscope

of corrected birth time.

> >With thanks & regards,

> >

> >Dhirendra Nath Misra

> >

>

October 26, 2009

Dear members,

Very Interesting observation.Even a professiona GO was also talking about such

matters a day back how hospital announces the baby delivery and records time.

These timeing are real and factual are always taken with some relvance for

horoscope purpose.

The Ascendant concept in Jyotish though most vital I always jyotis has also to

consider sun and moon also as lagnas and hormonise.

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--- On Mon, 10/26/09, bhagavathi_hariharan <bhagavathi_hariharan

wrote:

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Re: Regarding birth time correction in every case

Monday, October 26, 2009, 12:04 AM