Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Respected astrologers: I have been asked to appear for the 5th time for promotion but meanwhile I was preparing the representation saying it was a wrong one. Now the letter is being circulated to have these interviews. I will be giving representation to reconsider mine and so will not attend these. Now 5th is the last chance, if I attend I will be given but I dont want it since I am good enough to get it in the first itself. Now will this be solved as such or will I have to fight it as a case going to the court. I am not a fool to accept it in 5th when people with no knowledge could get in the first. So either I have to resign or I will have to give representation and wait and then file a case. Why I am asking all this is I am very poor with respect to court matters I dont know how to proceed in the proper way. However, I am good in my research and teaching and much better than those who got in the first year itself. Pl advise soon what I have to do? Is the court case essential or will it be solved without it? Dev 1-2-62 2.30am, New Delhi --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag wrote: Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag Re: Prarabadh Received: Monday, October 26, 2009, 2:28 AM Dear Members, I am not sure whether to write in pure techanical way or other ways. Every thing in this world is absolutely interconnected and is interdependable, Whether it is human being or others. Our own karma leads us to different yonis. The attraction or repulsion is in every moment of sojourn of soul, also governed by the three gunas & its combinations. Sometimes, we are drawn to the net of relationships due to past debt & relationships / karma. This life also plays a part in the game and new relationships are created whether by attraction or repulsion , love or hate, this in turn becomes becomes a starting point or even the cause of next birth & death cycles. It is a vicious cycle and which every soul ultimately endeavers to break at one point of time. This may not happen in this birth itself. Every kind of wish Every kind of earning Every kind of love Every kind of Hate Every kind of Help provided Every kind of Help received Every kind of Cheating done Every kind of Cheated by others Every kind of support provided Every kind of support received Every action leads to bandhana & Rina, whether it is past or new. This has been time & again through many stories in puranas and they also show us the way to break out of this Rina Bandana. It is natural that when we see something beautifull, we immediately feel a longing to own it. This leads us spend time, effort in aquiring it. After obtaining it and enjoing it for some time, one finds that it has become less & less atrractive and looses interest in it. naturaly discards it and go for others. However the mind tends to get tired of this process and searches for that which never looses its attrtaction and ever beautifull. As the soul goes through these cycles, it shed its bandhana and finaly starts on journey in search of the ultimate attraction after having dissatified by all others, the paramatma. Till then, the soul is in the grip of kalachakra. This grip of Kalachakra is symetric to the centrifugal force and why we take pradakshina at temples. Planets indicate these paths woven by the Gunas & their qualities due to which all these attraction & repulsion occurs, whether we understand them correctly or not. Recently a friend of mine told a strange story which clearly indicates some of the phenomena. They are not brahmins but " Nair " caste and very strict vegetarians. He is Ganesha Upasaka and does Ganapathy japa/ Homa/ tarpana every day home. His mother was sick due to bone cancer aged about 55 and just about few days before her death, She expressed her wish to have Chicken as food. My friend was surprised & take back by this wish. She had never touched non-vegetarian food nor her parents family are non-vegetarians. So there is no way, she be attracted to such a taste. She was pious lady and always recited panchakshari mantra. However, since he knew her condition, he obliged. Within a few days (less than a week) she left him. It is not difficult to assume that her ailment caused by malefic planets also triggered the rajasic/tamasic gunas and may be wish / relationship that existed or remained unfulfilled in any of the past life. We cannot be sure. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. , " sapnag1968 " <sapnag1968@ ...> wrote: > > Resp. members, Hari Om, > > I wonder as how should we explain the phenomenon of intercaste, > interreligion, interstate and intercontinental marriages to settle the > accounts of previous lives? or are we opening the new accounts? This > phenomenon has been ever increasing with the effect of globalization; > This has also increased the number of divorces and multiple marriages. > > I will very much appreciate your feedback on the issues. > > Thanks, > > Sapna > ________________ Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Mail: http://ca.promos./newmail/overview2/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Dear Dev, Keeping aside astrology, I don't think your way of thinking is prudent. Irrespective of your capability (which YOU think is very good) , every employer or institution has its own norms for promotion. Issuence of circulars for applying is one of them. Unless you do it properly and attend the intervue, I don't think you stand a chance in court of law. The first thing they are going to argue is that you have not complied with the institutional norms and any court will dismiss the case without further hearing. This is simple logic and doesn't require an LLB to understand it. Emotions & frustrations won't lead you to anywhere near success. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ dev dev <vdev17 Mon, October 26, 2009 4:48:19 PM I am in deep trouble, please help soon Respected astrologers: I have been asked to appear for the 5th time for promotion but meanwhile I was preparing the representation saying it was a wrong one. Now the letter is being circulated to have these interviews. I will be giving representation to reconsider mine and so will not attend these. Now 5th is the last chance, if I attend I will be given but I dont want it since I am good enough to get it in the first itself. Now will this be solved as such or will I have to fight it as a case going to the court. I am not a fool to accept it in 5th when people with no knowledge could get in the first. So either I have to resign or I will have to give representation and wait and then file a case. Why I am asking all this is I am very poor with respect to court matters I dont know how to proceed in the proper way. However, I am good in my research and teaching and much better than those who got in the first year itself. Pl advise soon what I have to do? Is the court case essential or will it be solved without it? Dev 1-2-62 2.30am, New Delhi --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > Re: Prarabadh Received: Monday, October 26, 2009, 2:28 AM Dear Members, I am not sure whether to write in pure techanical way or other ways. Every thing in this world is absolutely interconnected and is interdependable, Whether it is human being or others. Our own karma leads us to different yonis. The attraction or repulsion is in every moment of sojourn of soul, also governed by the three gunas & its combinations. Sometimes, we are drawn to the net of relationships due to past debt & relationships / karma. This life also plays a part in the game and new relationships are created whether by attraction or repulsion , love or hate, this in turn becomes becomes a starting point or even the cause of next birth & death cycles. It is a vicious cycle and which every soul ultimately endeavers to break at one point of time. This may not happen in this birth itself. Every kind of wish Every kind of earning Every kind of love Every kind of Hate Every kind of Help provided Every kind of Help received Every kind of Cheating done Every kind of Cheated by others Every kind of support provided Every kind of support received Every action leads to bandhana & Rina, whether it is past or new. This has been time & again through many stories in puranas and they also show us the way to break out of this Rina Bandana. It is natural that when we see something beautifull, we immediately feel a longing to own it. This leads us spend time, effort in aquiring it. After obtaining it and enjoing it for some time, one finds that it has become less & less atrractive and looses interest in it. naturaly discards it and go for others. However the mind tends to get tired of this process and searches for that which never looses its attrtaction and ever beautifull. As the soul goes through these cycles, it shed its bandhana and finaly starts on journey in search of the ultimate attraction after having dissatified by all others, the paramatma. Till then, the soul is in the grip of kalachakra. This grip of Kalachakra is symetric to the centrifugal force and why we take pradakshina at temples. Planets indicate these paths woven by the Gunas & their qualities due to which all these attraction & repulsion occurs, whether we understand them correctly or not. Recently a friend of mine told a strange story which clearly indicates some of the phenomena. They are not brahmins but " Nair " caste and very strict vegetarians. He is Ganesha Upasaka and does Ganapathy japa/ Homa/ tarpana every day home. His mother was sick due to bone cancer aged about 55 and just about few days before her death, She expressed her wish to have Chicken as food. My friend was surprised & take back by this wish. She had never touched non-vegetarian food nor her parents family are non-vegetarians. So there is no way, she be attracted to such a taste. She was pious lady and always recited panchakshari mantra. However, since he knew her condition, he obliged. Within a few days (less than a week) she left him. It is not difficult to assume that her ailment caused by malefic planets also triggered the rajasic/tamasic gunas and may be wish / relationship that existed or remained unfulfilled in any of the past life. We cannot be sure. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. , " sapnag1968 " <sapnag1968@ ...> wrote: > > Resp. members, Hari Om, > > I wonder as how should we explain the phenomenon of intercaste, > interreligion, interstate and intercontinental marriages to settle the > accounts of previous lives? or are we opening the new accounts? This > phenomenon has been ever increasing with the effect of globalization; > This has also increased the number of divorces and multiple marriages. > > I will very much appreciate your feedback on the issues. > > Thanks, > > Sapna > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Mail: http://ca.promos. / newmail/overview 2/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Dear Mr. Dev, I have a friend of mine in India who used to work in a famous college in the state of Tamilnadu. He was expecting a promotion as Prof and Head of the Department, since he was a double Ph.D, after the retirement of the incumbent HOD. But the institution was being run by a minority group. Hence, they appointed the person from the minority group as HOD, who was just a M Phil. This genteleman was 43 years old. The college was getting UGC grants and salary was as per the UGC pay scale. He made various representations. And finally he filed a case in the Madras High Court. He won the case. The college decided to file an appeal to the bench. He won the case there too. The college went to Supreme court. In the single judge bench, he won. The college then went to the SC bench and he won the case and was given back dated position. He came and joined as HOD. Three days later he reitred, on account of superannuation. His junior who was appointed as HOD first, had gone on leave for the three days. Imagine the number of years that he was running from pillar to post figting his case. Whereas, for the college, there was legal counsel who appeared and the admin in charge used to fly down to Delhi every time there was a court hearing and stay in 4 star hotel with all expenses paid, since it was just a job for him. But for this poor professor, it was his hard earned money which he had to spend. He spent a fortune on his court case. He avauied his PF loan and also took loans outside. When he got the gratuity and PF and superannuation, he paid his loans. And he still had some loan of Rs.4 lakhs left. He asked his son to pay. His son asked him that after having lost everything and incurred so much of debts, was it a case well deserved just to get a title, Prof and HOD ( Retd ). And after putting the entire family to such hardship, since his wife had to make idly's at home and sell to pay for his children's needs and also borrow from others to pay his kids education fees. This is the state of affairs in Indian courts.There is a saying in India. In case you want to take revenge on someone whom you do not like and want him to be ruined, then give him two advices, a) Ask him to start a chit fund and b) Ask him to file a case in the court. You then, do not have to do anything further. He will himself get ruined. I am not an astrologer. But I beleive that whatever happens on account of destiny and the people who play various roles in the game are tools of God. Just thought, I must share this with you, before you proceed with court case etc. The total amount he spent in the 15 odd years was over RS 35 lakhs. Regards, John --- On Mon, 10/26/09, dev dev <vdev17 wrote: dev dev <vdev17 I am in deep trouble, please help soon Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:48 PM Respected astrologers: I have been asked to appear for the 5th time for promotion but meanwhile I was preparing the representation saying it was a wrong one. Now the letter is being circulated to have these interviews. I will be giving representation to reconsider mine and so will not attend these. Now 5th is the last chance, if I attend I will be given but I dont want it since I am good enough to get it in the first itself. Now will this be solved as such or will I have to fight it as a case going to the court. I am not a fool to accept it in 5th when people with no knowledge could get in the first. So either I have to resign or I will have to give representation and wait and then file a case. Why I am asking all this is I am very poor with respect to court matters I dont know how to proceed in the proper way. However, I am good in my research and teaching and much better than those who got in the first year itself. Pl advise soon what I have to do? Is the court case essential or will it be solved without it? Dev 1-2-62 2.30am, New Delhi --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > Re: Prarabadh Received: Monday, October 26, 2009, 2:28 AM Dear Members, I am not sure whether to write in pure techanical way or other ways. Every thing in this world is absolutely interconnected and is interdependable, Whether it is human being or others. Our own karma leads us to different yonis. The attraction or repulsion is in every moment of sojourn of soul, also governed by the three gunas & its combinations. Sometimes, we are drawn to the net of relationships due to past debt & relationships / karma. This life also plays a part in the game and new relationships are created whether by attraction or repulsion , love or hate, this in turn becomes becomes a starting point or even the cause of next birth & death cycles. It is a vicious cycle and which every soul ultimately endeavers to break at one point of time. This may not happen in this birth itself. Every kind of wish Every kind of earning Every kind of love Every kind of Hate Every kind of Help provided Every kind of Help received Every kind of Cheating done Every kind of Cheated by others Every kind of support provided Every kind of support received Every action leads to bandhana & Rina, whether it is past or new. This has been time & again through many stories in puranas and they also show us the way to break out of this Rina Bandana. It is natural that when we see something beautifull, we immediately feel a longing to own it. This leads us spend time, effort in aquiring it. After obtaining it and enjoing it for some time, one finds that it has become less & less atrractive and looses interest in it. naturaly discards it and go for others. However the mind tends to get tired of this process and searches for that which never looses its attrtaction and ever beautifull. As the soul goes through these cycles, it shed its bandhana and finaly starts on journey in search of the ultimate attraction after having dissatified by all others, the paramatma. Till then, the soul is in the grip of kalachakra. This grip of Kalachakra is symetric to the centrifugal force and why we take pradakshina at temples. Planets indicate these paths woven by the Gunas & their qualities due to which all these attraction & repulsion occurs, whether we understand them correctly or not. Recently a friend of mine told a strange story which clearly indicates some of the phenomena. They are not brahmins but " Nair " caste and very strict vegetarians. He is Ganesha Upasaka and does Ganapathy japa/ Homa/ tarpana every day home. His mother was sick due to bone cancer aged about 55 and just about few days before her death, She expressed her wish to have Chicken as food. My friend was surprised & take back by this wish. She had never touched non-vegetarian food nor her parents family are non-vegetarians. So there is no way, she be attracted to such a taste. She was pious lady and always recited panchakshari mantra. However, since he knew her condition, he obliged. Within a few days (less than a week) she left him. It is not difficult to assume that her ailment caused by malefic planets also triggered the rajasic/tamasic gunas and may be wish / relationship that existed or remained unfulfilled in any of the past life. We cannot be sure. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. , " sapnag1968 " <sapnag1968@ ...> wrote: > > Resp. members, Hari Om, > > I wonder as how should we explain the phenomenon of intercaste, > interreligion, interstate and intercontinental marriages to settle the > accounts of previous lives? or are we opening the new accounts? This > phenomenon has been ever increasing with the effect of globalization; > This has also increased the number of divorces and multiple marriages. > > I will very much appreciate your feedback on the issues. > > Thanks, > > Sapna > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Mail: http://ca.promos. / newmail/overview 2/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Dear John & others, You have written very well and correctly Yes it is sad story but true and not only in India which you have portraid but every where in the world. As for caste discreminations in India, what is more appaling than having The great president of United States of America had to bow down in recent days, then why single out India by the same people who practice it one form or other in their own countries? Come to think of it, why talk about USA alone what about other countries of the world. Are they any better? What you have portrated is only a system & procedure which is not different from other countries and are laywers fees very low & cheap in other countries? I will they are as high even more like any other service. While the story is true, it is not very diplomatic to name countries. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ John Aldrich <johnaldrichinc Mon, October 26, 2009 7:52:03 PM Re: I am in deep trouble, please help soon Dear Mr. Dev, I have a friend of mine in India who used to work in a famous college in the state of Tamilnadu. He was expecting a promotion as Prof and Head of the Department, since he was a double Ph.D, after the retirement of the incumbent HOD. But the institution was being run by a minority group. Hence, they appointed the person from the minority group as HOD, who was just a M Phil. This genteleman was 43 years old. The college was getting UGC grants and salary was as per the UGC pay scale. He made various representations. And finally he filed a case in the Madras High Court. He won the case. The college decided to file an appeal to the bench. He won the case there too. The college went to Supreme court. In the single judge bench, he won. The college then went to the SC bench and he won the case and was given back dated position. He came and joined as HOD. Three days later he reitred, on account of superannuation. His junior who was appointed as HOD first, had gone on leave for the three days. Imagine the number of years that he was running from pillar to post figting his case. Whereas, for the college, there was legal counsel who appeared and the admin in charge used to fly down to Delhi every time there was a court hearing and stay in 4 star hotel with all expenses paid, since it was just a job for him. But for this poor professor, it was his hard earned money which he had to spend. He spent a fortune on his court case. He avauied his PF loan and also took loans outside. When he got the gratuity and PF and superannuation, he paid his loans. And he still had some loan of Rs.4 lakhs left. He asked his son to pay. His son asked him that after having lost everything and incurred so much of debts, was it a case well deserved just to get a title, Prof and HOD ( Retd ). And after putting the entire family to such hardship, since his wife had to make idly's at home and sell to pay for his children's needs and also borrow from others to pay his kids education fees. This is the state of affairs in Indian courts.There is a saying in India. In case you want to take revenge on someone whom you do not like and want him to be ruined, then give him two advices, a) Ask him to start a chit fund and b) Ask him to file a case in the court. You then, do not have to do anything further. He will himself get ruined. I am not an astrologer. But I beleive that whatever happens on account of destiny and the people who play various roles in the game are tools of God. Just thought, I must share this with you, before you proceed with court case etc. The total amount he spent in the 15 odd years was over RS 35 lakhs. Regards, John --- On Mon, 10/26/09, dev dev <vdev17 (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote: dev dev <vdev17 (AT) (DOT) ca> I am in deep trouble, please help soon Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:48 PM Respected astrologers: I have been asked to appear for the 5th time for promotion but meanwhile I was preparing the representation saying it was a wrong one. Now the letter is being circulated to have these interviews. I will be giving representation to reconsider mine and so will not attend these. Now 5th is the last chance, if I attend I will be given but I dont want it since I am good enough to get it in the first itself. Now will this be solved as such or will I have to fight it as a case going to the court. I am not a fool to accept it in 5th when people with no knowledge could get in the first. So either I have to resign or I will have to give representation and wait and then file a case. Why I am asking all this is I am very poor with respect to court matters I dont know how to proceed in the proper way. However, I am good in my research and teaching and much better than those who got in the first year itself. Pl advise soon what I have to do? Is the court case essential or will it be solved without it? Dev 1-2-62 2.30am, New Delhi --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > Re: Prarabadh Received: Monday, October 26, 2009, 2:28 AM Dear Members, I am not sure whether to write in pure techanical way or other ways. Every thing in this world is absolutely interconnected and is interdependable, Whether it is human being or others. Our own karma leads us to different yonis. The attraction or repulsion is in every moment of sojourn of soul, also governed by the three gunas & its combinations. Sometimes, we are drawn to the net of relationships due to past debt & relationships / karma. This life also plays a part in the game and new relationships are created whether by attraction or repulsion , love or hate, this in turn becomes becomes a starting point or even the cause of next birth & death cycles. It is a vicious cycle and which every soul ultimately endeavers to break at one point of time. This may not happen in this birth itself. Every kind of wish Every kind of earning Every kind of love Every kind of Hate Every kind of Help provided Every kind of Help received Every kind of Cheating done Every kind of Cheated by others Every kind of support provided Every kind of support received Every action leads to bandhana & Rina, whether it is past or new. This has been time & again through many stories in puranas and they also show us the way to break out of this Rina Bandana. It is natural that when we see something beautifull, we immediately feel a longing to own it. This leads us spend time, effort in aquiring it. After obtaining it and enjoing it for some time, one finds that it has become less & less atrractive and looses interest in it. naturaly discards it and go for others. However the mind tends to get tired of this process and searches for that which never looses its attrtaction and ever beautifull. As the soul goes through these cycles, it shed its bandhana and finaly starts on journey in search of the ultimate attraction after having dissatified by all others, the paramatma. Till then, the soul is in the grip of kalachakra. This grip of Kalachakra is symetric to the centrifugal force and why we take pradakshina at temples. Planets indicate these paths woven by the Gunas & their qualities due to which all these attraction & repulsion occurs, whether we understand them correctly or not. Recently a friend of mine told a strange story which clearly indicates some of the phenomena. They are not brahmins but " Nair " caste and very strict vegetarians. He is Ganesha Upasaka and does Ganapathy japa/ Homa/ tarpana every day home. His mother was sick due to bone cancer aged about 55 and just about few days before her death, She expressed her wish to have Chicken as food. My friend was surprised & take back by this wish. She had never touched non-vegetarian food nor her parents family are non-vegetarians. So there is no way, she be attracted to such a taste. She was pious lady and always recited panchakshari mantra. However, since he knew her condition, he obliged. Within a few days (less than a week) she left him. It is not difficult to assume that her ailment caused by malefic planets also triggered the rajasic/tamasic gunas and may be wish / relationship that existed or remained unfulfilled in any of the past life. We cannot be sure. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. , " sapnag1968 " <sapnag1968@ ...> wrote: > > Resp. members, Hari Om, > > I wonder as how should we explain the phenomenon of intercaste, > interreligion, interstate and intercontinental marriages to settle the > accounts of previous lives? or are we opening the new accounts? This > phenomenon has been ever increasing with the effect of globalization; > This has also increased the number of divorces and multiple marriages. > > I will very much appreciate your feedback on the issues. > > Thanks, > > Sapna > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Mail: http://ca.promos. / newmail/overview 2/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Mr John, It is a good case for many how justice delayed is denied. Poor man,the Prof is that does not what is deserving some times will get denied.Not that the person is line is ineligible or not derving,some times you can not have valid reason why one has to suffer for none of his fault? Any way we reconcile the fate when denies,no body can do any thing.Only satisfaction you remained a fighter,warrior in life but with no appreciation but your contentment enfd of the day. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Mon, 10/26/09, John Aldrich <johnaldrichinc wrote: John Aldrich <johnaldrichinc Re: I am in deep trouble, please help soon Monday, October 26, 2009, 10:22 AM Dear Mr. Dev, I have a friend of mine in India who used to work in a famous college in the state of Tamilnadu. He was expecting a promotion as Prof and Head of the Department, since he was a double Ph.D, after the retirement of the incumbent HOD. But the institution was being run by a minority group. Hence, they appointed the person from the minority group as HOD, who was just a M Phil. This genteleman was 43 years old. The college was getting UGC grants and salary was as per the UGC pay scale. He made various representations. And finally he filed a case in the Madras High Court. He won the case. The college decided to file an appeal to the bench. He won the case there too. The college went to Supreme court. In the single judge bench, he won. The college then went to the SC bench and he won the case and was given back dated position. He came and joined as HOD. Three days later he reitred, on account of superannuation. His junior who was appointed as HOD first, had gone on leave for the three days. Imagine the number of years that he was running from pillar to post figting his case. Whereas, for the college, there was legal counsel who appeared and the admin in charge used to fly down to Delhi every time there was a court hearing and stay in 4 star hotel with all expenses paid, since it was just a job for him. But for this poor professor, it was his hard earned money which he had to spend. He spent a fortune on his court case. He avauied his PF loan and also took loans outside. When he got the gratuity and PF and superannuation, he paid his loans. And he still had some loan of Rs.4 lakhs left. He asked his son to pay. His son asked him that after having lost everything and incurred so much of debts, was it a case well deserved just to get a title, Prof and HOD ( Retd ). And after putting the entire family to such hardship, since his wife had to make idly's at home and sell to pay for his children's needs and also borrow from others to pay his kids education fees. This is the state of affairs in Indian courts.There is a saying in India. In case you want to take revenge on someone whom you do not like and want him to be ruined, then give him two advices, a) Ask him to start a chit fund and b) Ask him to file a case in the court. You then, do not have to do anything further. He will himself get ruined. I am not an astrologer. But I beleive that whatever happens on account of destiny and the people who play various roles in the game are tools of God. Just thought, I must share this with you, before you proceed with court case etc. The total amount he spent in the 15 odd years was over RS 35 lakhs. Regards, John --- On Mon, 10/26/09, dev dev <vdev17 (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote: dev dev <vdev17 (AT) (DOT) ca> I am in deep trouble, please help soon Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:48 PM Respected astrologers: I have been asked to appear for the 5th time for promotion but meanwhile I was preparing the representation saying it was a wrong one. Now the letter is being circulated to have these interviews. I will be giving representation to reconsider mine and so will not attend these. Now 5th is the last chance, if I attend I will be given but I dont want it since I am good enough to get it in the first itself. Now will this be solved as such or will I have to fight it as a case going to the court. I am not a fool to accept it in 5th when people with no knowledge could get in the first. So either I have to resign or I will have to give representation and wait and then file a case. Why I am asking all this is I am very poor with respect to court matters I dont know how to proceed in the proper way. However, I am good in my research and teaching and much better than those who got in the first year itself. Pl advise soon what I have to do? Is the court case essential or will it be solved without it? Dev 1-2-62 2.30am, New Delhi --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > Re: Prarabadh Received: Monday, October 26, 2009, 2:28 AM Dear Members, I am not sure whether to write in pure techanical way or other ways. Every thing in this world is absolutely interconnected and is interdependable, Whether it is human being or others. Our own karma leads us to different yonis. The attraction or repulsion is in every moment of sojourn of soul, also governed by the three gunas & its combinations. Sometimes, we are drawn to the net of relationships due to past debt & relationships / karma. This life also plays a part in the game and new relationships are created whether by attraction or repulsion , love or hate, this in turn becomes becomes a starting point or even the cause of next birth & death cycles. It is a vicious cycle and which every soul ultimately endeavers to break at one point of time. This may not happen in this birth itself. Every kind of wish Every kind of earning Every kind of love Every kind of Hate Every kind of Help provided Every kind of Help received Every kind of Cheating done Every kind of Cheated by others Every kind of support provided Every kind of support received Every action leads to bandhana & Rina, whether it is past or new. This has been time & again through many stories in puranas and they also show us the way to break out of this Rina Bandana. It is natural that when we see something beautifull, we immediately feel a longing to own it. This leads us spend time, effort in aquiring it. After obtaining it and enjoing it for some time, one finds that it has become less & less atrractive and looses interest in it. naturaly discards it and go for others. However the mind tends to get tired of this process and searches for that which never looses its attrtaction and ever beautifull. As the soul goes through these cycles, it shed its bandhana and finaly starts on journey in search of the ultimate attraction after having dissatified by all others, the paramatma. Till then, the soul is in the grip of kalachakra. This grip of Kalachakra is symetric to the centrifugal force and why we take pradakshina at temples. Planets indicate these paths woven by the Gunas & their qualities due to which all these attraction & repulsion occurs, whether we understand them correctly or not. Recently a friend of mine told a strange story which clearly indicates some of the phenomena. They are not brahmins but " Nair " caste and very strict vegetarians. He is Ganesha Upasaka and does Ganapathy japa/ Homa/ tarpana every day home. His mother was sick due to bone cancer aged about 55 and just about few days before her death, She expressed her wish to have Chicken as food. My friend was surprised & take back by this wish. She had never touched non-vegetarian food nor her parents family are non-vegetarians. So there is no way, she be attracted to such a taste. She was pious lady and always recited panchakshari mantra. However, since he knew her condition, he obliged. Within a few days (less than a week) she left him. It is not difficult to assume that her ailment caused by malefic planets also triggered the rajasic/tamasic gunas and may be wish / relationship that existed or remained unfulfilled in any of the past life. We cannot be sure. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. , " sapnag1968 " <sapnag1968@ ...> wrote: > > Resp. members, Hari Om, > > I wonder as how should we explain the phenomenon of intercaste, > interreligion, interstate and intercontinental marriages to settle the > accounts of previous lives? or are we opening the new accounts? This > phenomenon has been ever increasing with the effect of globalization; > This has also increased the number of divorces and multiple marriages. > > I will very much appreciate your feedback on the issues. > > Thanks, > > Sapna > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Mail: http://ca.promos. / newmail/overview 2/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Dear Mr. Shenoy, I am an Indian myself and am proud of that fact. But that does not mean that things cannot improve. We inherited India from the British Colonial Raj. We have grown phenomenally in last 60 years. We have retained our democracy despite lingusitic diversity and cultural diversity. We have faced challenges in all fields and have done extremely well for that matter. I think that is the most admirable part of India. But there are shortcomings in the system, which one needs to accept. There has been lots done but much needs to be done too. And looking at what all has happened in the last 62 years, such as the PIL, the RTI act etc, it very clearly shows the deire and the will of the people to transform into a level which will be enviabe by all. And I would request you to look at the mail in terms of the reality. And giving an opinion based on reality to someone who is in a dilemma as to whether he must take recourse to legal action or not, I think is fair. Since it is that person who has seeked advice who is going to face the consequences of whatever actions he is going to take will be critical for him. And what I have done is just shared an real time experience in real time India, which is my motherland. I have not drawn comparison with any other country, since it was irrelevant here and would be of no interest to the anxious Mr. Dev. All countries have merits, just as India has and all countries have short comings, just as India has. So please look at my mail in the spirit in which it has been written. Regards, John --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote: Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag Re: I am in deep trouble, please help soon Monday, October 26, 2009, 8:19 PM Dear John & others, You have written very well and correctly Yes it is sad story but true and not only in India which you have portraid but every where in the world. As for caste discreminations in India, what is more appaling than having The great president of United States of America had to bow down in recent days, then why single out India by the same people who practice it one form or other in their own countries? Come to think of it, why talk about USA alone what about other countries of the world. Are they any better? What you have portrated is only a system & procedure which is not different from other countries and are laywers fees very low & cheap in other countries? I will they are as high even more like any other service. While the story is true, it is not very diplomatic to name countries. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ John Aldrich <johnaldrichinc@ > Mon, October 26, 2009 7:52:03 PM Re: I am in deep trouble, please help soon Dear Mr. Dev, I have a friend of mine in India who used to work in a famous college in the state of Tamilnadu. He was expecting a promotion as Prof and Head of the Department, since he was a double Ph.D, after the retirement of the incumbent HOD. But the institution was being run by a minority group. Hence, they appointed the person from the minority group as HOD, who was just a M Phil. This genteleman was 43 years old. The college was getting UGC grants and salary was as per the UGC pay scale. He made various representations. And finally he filed a case in the Madras High Court. He won the case. The college decided to file an appeal to the bench. He won the case there too. The college went to Supreme court. In the single judge bench, he won. The college then went to the SC bench and he won the case and was given back dated position. He came and joined as HOD. Three days later he reitred, on account of superannuation. His junior who was appointed as HOD first, had gone on leave for the three days. Imagine the number of years that he was running from pillar to post figting his case. Whereas, for the college, there was legal counsel who appeared and the admin in charge used to fly down to Delhi every time there was a court hearing and stay in 4 star hotel with all expenses paid, since it was just a job for him. But for this poor professor, it was his hard earned money which he had to spend. He spent a fortune on his court case. He avauied his PF loan and also took loans outside. When he got the gratuity and PF and superannuation, he paid his loans. And he still had some loan of Rs.4 lakhs left. He asked his son to pay. His son asked him that after having lost everything and incurred so much of debts, was it a case well deserved just to get a title, Prof and HOD ( Retd ). And after putting the entire family to such hardship, since his wife had to make idly's at home and sell to pay for his children's needs and also borrow from others to pay his kids education fees. This is the state of affairs in Indian courts.There is a saying in India. In case you want to take revenge on someone whom you do not like and want him to be ruined, then give him two advices, a) Ask him to start a chit fund and b) Ask him to file a case in the court. You then, do not have to do anything further. He will himself get ruined. I am not an astrologer. But I beleive that whatever happens on account of destiny and the people who play various roles in the game are tools of God. Just thought, I must share this with you, before you proceed with court case etc. The total amount he spent in the 15 odd years was over RS 35 lakhs. Regards, John --- On Mon, 10/26/09, dev dev <vdev17 (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote: dev dev <vdev17 (AT) (DOT) ca> I am in deep trouble, please help soon Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:48 PM Respected astrologers: I have been asked to appear for the 5th time for promotion but meanwhile I was preparing the representation saying it was a wrong one. Now the letter is being circulated to have these interviews. I will be giving representation to reconsider mine and so will not attend these. Now 5th is the last chance, if I attend I will be given but I dont want it since I am good enough to get it in the first itself. Now will this be solved as such or will I have to fight it as a case going to the court. I am not a fool to accept it in 5th when people with no knowledge could get in the first. So either I have to resign or I will have to give representation and wait and then file a case. Why I am asking all this is I am very poor with respect to court matters I dont know how to proceed in the proper way. However, I am good in my research and teaching and much better than those who got in the first year itself. Pl advise soon what I have to do? Is the court case essential or will it be solved without it? Dev 1-2-62 2.30am, New Delhi --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > Re: Prarabadh Received: Monday, October 26, 2009, 2:28 AM Dear Members, I am not sure whether to write in pure techanical way or other ways. Every thing in this world is absolutely interconnected and is interdependable, Whether it is human being or others. Our own karma leads us to different yonis. The attraction or repulsion is in every moment of sojourn of soul, also governed by the three gunas & its combinations. Sometimes, we are drawn to the net of relationships due to past debt & relationships / karma. This life also plays a part in the game and new relationships are created whether by attraction or repulsion , love or hate, this in turn becomes becomes a starting point or even the cause of next birth & death cycles. It is a vicious cycle and which every soul ultimately endeavers to break at one point of time. This may not happen in this birth itself. Every kind of wish Every kind of earning Every kind of love Every kind of Hate Every kind of Help provided Every kind of Help received Every kind of Cheating done Every kind of Cheated by others Every kind of support provided Every kind of support received Every action leads to bandhana & Rina, whether it is past or new. This has been time & again through many stories in puranas and they also show us the way to break out of this Rina Bandana. It is natural that when we see something beautifull, we immediately feel a longing to own it. This leads us spend time, effort in aquiring it. After obtaining it and enjoing it for some time, one finds that it has become less & less atrractive and looses interest in it. naturaly discards it and go for others. However the mind tends to get tired of this process and searches for that which never looses its attrtaction and ever beautifull. As the soul goes through these cycles, it shed its bandhana and finaly starts on journey in search of the ultimate attraction after having dissatified by all others, the paramatma. Till then, the soul is in the grip of kalachakra. This grip of Kalachakra is symetric to the centrifugal force and why we take pradakshina at temples. Planets indicate these paths woven by the Gunas & their qualities due to which all these attraction & repulsion occurs, whether we understand them correctly or not. Recently a friend of mine told a strange story which clearly indicates some of the phenomena. They are not brahmins but " Nair " caste and very strict vegetarians. He is Ganesha Upasaka and does Ganapathy japa/ Homa/ tarpana every day home. His mother was sick due to bone cancer aged about 55 and just about few days before her death, She expressed her wish to have Chicken as food. My friend was surprised & take back by this wish. She had never touched non-vegetarian food nor her parents family are non-vegetarians. So there is no way, she be attracted to such a taste. She was pious lady and always recited panchakshari mantra. However, since he knew her condition, he obliged. Within a few days (less than a week) she left him. It is not difficult to assume that her ailment caused by malefic planets also triggered the rajasic/tamasic gunas and may be wish / relationship that existed or remained unfulfilled in any of the past life. We cannot be sure. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. , " sapnag1968 " <sapnag1968@ ...> wrote: > > Resp. members, Hari Om, > > I wonder as how should we explain the phenomenon of intercaste, > interreligion, interstate and intercontinental marriages to settle the > accounts of previous lives? or are we opening the new accounts? This > phenomenon has been ever increasing with the effect of globalization; > This has also increased the number of divorces and multiple marriages. > > I will very much appreciate your feedback on the issues. > > Thanks, > > Sapna > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Mail: http://ca.promos. / newmail/overview 2/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Dear John, It is very true about the state of affairs and very right in the advice, which I have myself implied in an earlier post. However, I was pained in naming a particular country and particularly pointing to racial discremination. I will sure admit it is true and does not like it either, But today it is used more eploit the very same class of people than to help them, which might have happend 50 years back. If you look at the state of affairs, there are even more dangerous type of discrimination that is evolving, with politicians, beurocrates, spuedo business men & media. The very people who claim to stand for the downtroden are seen spending crores from exchequer to errect statues over the state. None of these cannot be corrected easily nor it will ever be. As you said it is better to keep away from debts & courts as far as possible, even if there is slight loss of prestige. After all it will not help any one to feed themselves. It is better to be practical than loose every thing for a bit of pride. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. ________________________________ John Aldrich <johnaldrichinc Mon, October 26, 2009 8:43:00 PM Re: I am in deep trouble, please help soon Dear Mr. Shenoy, I am an Indian myself and am proud of that fact. But that does not mean that things cannot improve. We inherited India from the British Colonial Raj. We have grown phenomenally in last 60 years. We have retained our democracy despite lingusitic diversity and cultural diversity. We have faced challenges in all fields and have done extremely well for that matter. I think that is the most admirable part of India. But there are shortcomings in the system, which one needs to accept. There has been lots done but much needs to be done too. And looking at what all has happened in the last 62 years, such as the PIL, the RTI act etc, it very clearly shows the deire and the will of the people to transform into a level which will be enviabe by all. And I would request you to look at the mail in terms of the reality. And giving an opinion based on reality to someone who is in a dilemma as to whether he must take recourse to legal action or not, I think is fair. Since it is that person who has seeked advice who is going to face the consequences of whatever actions he is going to take will be critical for him. And what I have done is just shared an real time experience in real time India, which is my motherland. I have not drawn comparison with any other country, since it was irrelevant here and would be of no interest to the anxious Mr. Dev. All countries have merits, just as India has and all countries have short comings, just as India has. So please look at my mail in the spirit in which it has been written. Regards, John --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Re: I am in deep trouble, please help soon Monday, October 26, 2009, 8:19 PM Dear John & others, You have written very well and correctly Yes it is sad story but true and not only in India which you have portraid but every where in the world. As for caste discreminations in India, what is more appaling than having The great president of United States of America had to bow down in recent days, then why single out India by the same people who practice it one form or other in their own countries? Come to think of it, why talk about USA alone what about other countries of the world. Are they any better? What you have portrated is only a system & procedure which is not different from other countries and are laywers fees very low & cheap in other countries? I will they are as high even more like any other service. While the story is true, it is not very diplomatic to name countries. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ John Aldrich <johnaldrichinc@ > Mon, October 26, 2009 7:52:03 PM Re: I am in deep trouble, please help soon Dear Mr. Dev, I have a friend of mine in India who used to work in a famous college in the state of Tamilnadu. He was expecting a promotion as Prof and Head of the Department, since he was a double Ph.D, after the retirement of the incumbent HOD. But the institution was being run by a minority group. Hence, they appointed the person from the minority group as HOD, who was just a M Phil. This genteleman was 43 years old. The college was getting UGC grants and salary was as per the UGC pay scale. He made various representations. And finally he filed a case in the Madras High Court. He won the case. The college decided to file an appeal to the bench. He won the case there too. The college went to Supreme court. In the single judge bench, he won. The college then went to the SC bench and he won the case and was given back dated position. He came and joined as HOD. Three days later he reitred, on account of superannuation. His junior who was appointed as HOD first, had gone on leave for the three days. Imagine the number of years that he was running from pillar to post figting his case. Whereas, for the college, there was legal counsel who appeared and the admin in charge used to fly down to Delhi every time there was a court hearing and stay in 4 star hotel with all expenses paid, since it was just a job for him. But for this poor professor, it was his hard earned money which he had to spend. He spent a fortune on his court case. He avauied his PF loan and also took loans outside. When he got the gratuity and PF and superannuation, he paid his loans. And he still had some loan of Rs.4 lakhs left. He asked his son to pay. His son asked him that after having lost everything and incurred so much of debts, was it a case well deserved just to get a title, Prof and HOD ( Retd ). And after putting the entire family to such hardship, since his wife had to make idly's at home and sell to pay for his children's needs and also borrow from others to pay his kids education fees. This is the state of affairs in Indian courts.There is a saying in India. In case you want to take revenge on someone whom you do not like and want him to be ruined, then give him two advices, a) Ask him to start a chit fund and b) Ask him to file a case in the court. You then, do not have to do anything further. He will himself get ruined. I am not an astrologer. But I beleive that whatever happens on account of destiny and the people who play various roles in the game are tools of God. Just thought, I must share this with you, before you proceed with court case etc. The total amount he spent in the 15 odd years was over RS 35 lakhs. Regards, John --- On Mon, 10/26/09, dev dev <vdev17 (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote: dev dev <vdev17 (AT) (DOT) ca> I am in deep trouble, please help soon Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:48 PM Respected astrologers: I have been asked to appear for the 5th time for promotion but meanwhile I was preparing the representation saying it was a wrong one. Now the letter is being circulated to have these interviews. I will be giving representation to reconsider mine and so will not attend these. Now 5th is the last chance, if I attend I will be given but I dont want it since I am good enough to get it in the first itself. Now will this be solved as such or will I have to fight it as a case going to the court. I am not a fool to accept it in 5th when people with no knowledge could get in the first. So either I have to resign or I will have to give representation and wait and then file a case. Why I am asking all this is I am very poor with respect to court matters I dont know how to proceed in the proper way. However, I am good in my research and teaching and much better than those who got in the first year itself. Pl advise soon what I have to do? Is the court case essential or will it be solved without it? Dev 1-2-62 2.30am, New Delhi --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > Re: Prarabadh Received: Monday, October 26, 2009, 2:28 AM Dear Members, I am not sure whether to write in pure techanical way or other ways. Every thing in this world is absolutely interconnected and is interdependable, Whether it is human being or others. Our own karma leads us to different yonis. The attraction or repulsion is in every moment of sojourn of soul, also governed by the three gunas & its combinations. Sometimes, we are drawn to the net of relationships due to past debt & relationships / karma. This life also plays a part in the game and new relationships are created whether by attraction or repulsion , love or hate, this in turn becomes becomes a starting point or even the cause of next birth & death cycles. It is a vicious cycle and which every soul ultimately endeavers to break at one point of time. This may not happen in this birth itself. Every kind of wish Every kind of earning Every kind of love Every kind of Hate Every kind of Help provided Every kind of Help received Every kind of Cheating done Every kind of Cheated by others Every kind of support provided Every kind of support received Every action leads to bandhana & Rina, whether it is past or new. This has been time & again through many stories in puranas and they also show us the way to break out of this Rina Bandana. It is natural that when we see something beautifull, we immediately feel a longing to own it. This leads us spend time, effort in aquiring it. After obtaining it and enjoing it for some time, one finds that it has become less & less atrractive and looses interest in it. naturaly discards it and go for others. However the mind tends to get tired of this process and searches for that which never looses its attrtaction and ever beautifull. As the soul goes through these cycles, it shed its bandhana and finaly starts on journey in search of the ultimate attraction after having dissatified by all others, the paramatma. Till then, the soul is in the grip of kalachakra. This grip of Kalachakra is symetric to the centrifugal force and why we take pradakshina at temples. Planets indicate these paths woven by the Gunas & their qualities due to which all these attraction & repulsion occurs, whether we understand them correctly or not. Recently a friend of mine told a strange story which clearly indicates some of the phenomena. They are not brahmins but " Nair " caste and very strict vegetarians. He is Ganesha Upasaka and does Ganapathy japa/ Homa/ tarpana every day home. His mother was sick due to bone cancer aged about 55 and just about few days before her death, She expressed her wish to have Chicken as food. My friend was surprised & take back by this wish. She had never touched non-vegetarian food nor her parents family are non-vegetarians. So there is no way, she be attracted to such a taste. She was pious lady and always recited panchakshari mantra. However, since he knew her condition, he obliged. Within a few days (less than a week) she left him. It is not difficult to assume that her ailment caused by malefic planets also triggered the rajasic/tamasic gunas and may be wish / relationship that existed or remained unfulfilled in any of the past life. We cannot be sure. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. , " sapnag1968 " <sapnag1968@ ...> wrote: > > Resp. members, Hari Om, > > I wonder as how should we explain the phenomenon of intercaste, > interreligion, interstate and intercontinental marriages to settle the > accounts of previous lives? or are we opening the new accounts? This > phenomenon has been ever increasing with the effect of globalization; > This has also increased the number of divorces and multiple marriages. > > I will very much appreciate your feedback on the issues. > > Thanks, > > Sapna > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Mail: http://ca.promos. / newmail/overview 2/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 I thank all for their reply but none of them are connected to my case. It is a very simple case of promotion which was denied deliberately. I become junior by 5 years to people who joined with me and are inferior in terms of work, knowledge and sincerity. I can prove it. This was done by some body. So I wanted an astrological reply and solution and not a general one. Since I have had tough life in all ways, career was the only satisfaction, even there if I have to face this, then I may have to think of resigning, that is all; I have no reason to live. Vasu --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 Re: I am in deep trouble, please help soon Received: Monday, October 26, 2009, 10:55 AM Mr John, It is a good case for many how justice delayed is denied. Poor man,the Prof is that does not what is deserving some times will get denied.Not that the person is line is ineligible or not derving,some times you can not have valid reason why one has to suffer for none of his fault? Any way we reconcile the fate when denies,no body can do any thing.Only satisfaction you remained a fighter,warrior in life but with no appreciation but your contentment enfd of the day. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Mon, 10/26/09, John Aldrich <johnaldrichinc@ > wrote: John Aldrich <johnaldrichinc@ > Re: I am in deep trouble, please help soon Monday, October 26, 2009, 10:22 AM Dear Mr. Dev, I have a friend of mine in India who used to work in a famous college in the state of Tamilnadu. He was expecting a promotion as Prof and Head of the Department, since he was a double Ph.D, after the retirement of the incumbent HOD. But the institution was being run by a minority group. Hence, they appointed the person from the minority group as HOD, who was just a M Phil. This genteleman was 43 years old. The college was getting UGC grants and salary was as per the UGC pay scale. He made various representations. And finally he filed a case in the Madras High Court. He won the case. The college decided to file an appeal to the bench. He won the case there too. The college went to Supreme court. In the single judge bench, he won. The college then went to the SC bench and he won the case and was given back dated position. He came and joined as HOD. Three days later he reitred, on account of superannuation. His junior who was appointed as HOD first, had gone on leave for the three days. Imagine the number of years that he was running from pillar to post figting his case. Whereas, for the college, there was legal counsel who appeared and the admin in charge used to fly down to Delhi every time there was a court hearing and stay in 4 star hotel with all expenses paid, since it was just a job for him. But for this poor professor, it was his hard earned money which he had to spend. He spent a fortune on his court case. He avauied his PF loan and also took loans outside. When he got the gratuity and PF and superannuation, he paid his loans. And he still had some loan of Rs.4 lakhs left. He asked his son to pay. His son asked him that after having lost everything and incurred so much of debts, was it a case well deserved just to get a title, Prof and HOD ( Retd ). And after putting the entire family to such hardship, since his wife had to make idly's at home and sell to pay for his children's needs and also borrow from others to pay his kids education fees. This is the state of affairs in Indian courts.There is a saying in India. In case you want to take revenge on someone whom you do not like and want him to be ruined, then give him two advices, a) Ask him to start a chit fund and b) Ask him to file a case in the court. You then, do not have to do anything further. He will himself get ruined. I am not an astrologer. But I beleive that whatever happens on account of destiny and the people who play various roles in the game are tools of God. Just thought, I must share this with you, before you proceed with court case etc. The total amount he spent in the 15 odd years was over RS 35 lakhs. Regards, John --- On Mon, 10/26/09, dev dev <vdev17 (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote: dev dev <vdev17 (AT) (DOT) ca> I am in deep trouble, please help soon Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:48 PM Respected astrologers: I have been asked to appear for the 5th time for promotion but meanwhile I was preparing the representation saying it was a wrong one. Now the letter is being circulated to have these interviews. I will be giving representation to reconsider mine and so will not attend these. Now 5th is the last chance, if I attend I will be given but I dont want it since I am good enough to get it in the first itself. Now will this be solved as such or will I have to fight it as a case going to the court. I am not a fool to accept it in 5th when people with no knowledge could get in the first. So either I have to resign or I will have to give representation and wait and then file a case. Why I am asking all this is I am very poor with respect to court matters I dont know how to proceed in the proper way. However, I am good in my research and teaching and much better than those who got in the first year itself. Pl advise soon what I have to do? Is the court case essential or will it be solved without it? Dev 1-2-62 2.30am, New Delhi --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > Re: Prarabadh Received: Monday, October 26, 2009, 2:28 AM Dear Members, I am not sure whether to write in pure techanical way or other ways. Every thing in this world is absolutely interconnected and is interdependable, Whether it is human being or others. Our own karma leads us to different yonis. The attraction or repulsion is in every moment of sojourn of soul, also governed by the three gunas & its combinations. Sometimes, we are drawn to the net of relationships due to past debt & relationships / karma. This life also plays a part in the game and new relationships are created whether by attraction or repulsion , love or hate, this in turn becomes becomes a starting point or even the cause of next birth & death cycles. It is a vicious cycle and which every soul ultimately endeavers to break at one point of time. This may not happen in this birth itself. Every kind of wish Every kind of earning Every kind of love Every kind of Hate Every kind of Help provided Every kind of Help received Every kind of Cheating done Every kind of Cheated by others Every kind of support provided Every kind of support received Every action leads to bandhana & Rina, whether it is past or new. This has been time & again through many stories in puranas and they also show us the way to break out of this Rina Bandana. It is natural that when we see something beautifull, we immediately feel a longing to own it. This leads us spend time, effort in aquiring it. After obtaining it and enjoing it for some time, one finds that it has become less & less atrractive and looses interest in it. naturaly discards it and go for others. However the mind tends to get tired of this process and searches for that which never looses its attrtaction and ever beautifull. As the soul goes through these cycles, it shed its bandhana and finaly starts on journey in search of the ultimate attraction after having dissatified by all others, the paramatma. Till then, the soul is in the grip of kalachakra. This grip of Kalachakra is symetric to the centrifugal force and why we take pradakshina at temples. Planets indicate these paths woven by the Gunas & their qualities due to which all these attraction & repulsion occurs, whether we understand them correctly or not. Recently a friend of mine told a strange story which clearly indicates some of the phenomena. They are not brahmins but " Nair " caste and very strict vegetarians. He is Ganesha Upasaka and does Ganapathy japa/ Homa/ tarpana every day home. His mother was sick due to bone cancer aged about 55 and just about few days before her death, She expressed her wish to have Chicken as food. My friend was surprised & take back by this wish. She had never touched non-vegetarian food nor her parents family are non-vegetarians. So there is no way, she be attracted to such a taste. She was pious lady and always recited panchakshari mantra. However, since he knew her condition, he obliged. Within a few days (less than a week) she left him. It is not difficult to assume that her ailment caused by malefic planets also triggered the rajasic/tamasic gunas and may be wish / relationship that existed or remained unfulfilled in any of the past life. We cannot be sure. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. , " sapnag1968 " <sapnag1968@ ...> wrote: > > Resp. members, Hari Om, > > I wonder as how should we explain the phenomenon of intercaste, > interreligion, interstate and intercontinental marriages to settle the > accounts of previous lives? or are we opening the new accounts? This > phenomenon has been ever increasing with the effect of globalization; > This has also increased the number of divorces and multiple marriages. > > I will very much appreciate your feedback on the issues. > > Thanks, > > Sapna > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Mail: http://ca.promos. / newmail/overview 2/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Dear Vasu, First of all understand that Astrology is not about sweat words one may like to hear, but all about pointing out what is wrong & what is correct, be it the way one thinks, behaves or does. It is upto the native to see the prudence in the logic and act accordingly. For the last many days you have been posting issues regarding your foolish brother and how he lost your money. You have stated that he is mentally weak, ill natured, believes any one, coward etc But you gave withdrawal power to him, this foolish, coward brother of yours to bank accounts where you were having your life long savings. The question that comes naturally in ones mind is who is more foolish among them? Then you presented another story about your promotions. So far good. But when you wrote about putting up application for 5th time and keep way from attending it and going for litigation or resigning doesn't augur well for a prudent person. I pointed out the blunder in this strategy and Mr.John very elaborately stated his own experience and the risks you are taking. I don't understand how this doesn't relate to your case. If you look deeper, have you thought why your so many messages are not answered? Fact is when you write a story, every one shall read it and leave it. Astrologers can reply when you are specific on your questions. In fact I had collected all your postings & replies and kept as a file. But reframed from answering since, I had a feeling that it shall be a waste as in the above case. Now if you want the astrological readings, You have two basic problems in your chart. 1)Moon + Mercury + Mars (lagna lord) are hemmed between malefics – Sun in the 12th & Saturn+Rahu in the 2nd. – Papa Madhya sthithy. 2)Jupiter your 2nd (dhana / kutumba) lord & 5th lord (pragjna) is afflicted by Gulka, Rahu ie ; it is Gulika rashyadhipathy as well as Rahu rashyadhipathy AND retrograde in Karma bhava. You are going through Vimshottari dasa of Saturn – Jupiter – Moon till 10-Nov-2009 Saturn- Jupiter – Mars till 04-Jan-2010 Saturn – Jupiter – Rahu till 20-May-2010 Then mercury dasa starts. Since Jupiter anthara is running which is the 5th lord, this is a time when the person should exert prudence that give in to emotions. However, the chidra of moon till 10-Nov-2009 is what is prompting you in that direction being mana karaka. Kalachakra Dasa clearly portraits the life events you have described so far. However, you are going through the dasa of Simha rashi from feb-2009. The main reason for your failure. This dasa is change from Mithuna to Simha what in astrology is called Markada Gati which is said to a failure in its initial state. The Simha – Simha went on till Jun-2009 and now Simha- Karkata is going till 04-Sep-2010. Though, the current sign is chara sign, it lord is placed in Sthira sign Both in Rasi as well as Navamsa. Hence, there is little chance of changing the job or getting much of promotion. However, there will be changes after this period. Till that time, it is better if you stick on to the job and through the formalities as required. Considering the afflictions, I would advice you to do the following. 1) offer naivedhya & abhisheka to lord mahadev temple.. 2) offer poojas at bhairava temple 3) Recite Devi Mahatmya (saptha sathy) once a month as per the norms as saptha sathi or trisathy. 4) recite Laxmi hridaya + Narana Hridaya every Fridays. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. , dev dev <vdev17 wrote: > > I thank all for their reply but none of them are connected to my case. It is a very simple case of promotion which was denied deliberately. I become junior by 5 years to people who joined with me and are inferior in terms of work, knowledge and sincerity. I can prove it. This was done by some body. > > So I wanted an astrological reply and solution and not a general one. > Since I have had tough life in all ways, career was the only satisfaction, even there if I have to face this, then I may have to think of resigning, that is all; I have no reason to live. > > Vasu > > --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > Re: I am in deep trouble, please help soon > > Received: Monday, October 26, 2009, 10:55 AM > > > > > > > Mr John, > It > is a good case for many how justice delayed is denied. Poor man,the Prof is that does not what is deserving some times will get denied.Not that the person is line is ineligible or not derving,some times you can not have valid reason why one has to suffer for none of his fault? > Any way we reconcile the fate when denies,no body can do any thing.Only satisfaction you remained a fighter,warrior in life but with no appreciation but your contentment enfd of the day. > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > > > --- On Mon, 10/26/09, John Aldrich <johnaldrichinc@ > wrote: > > John Aldrich <johnaldrichinc@ > > Re: I am in deep trouble, please help soon > > Monday, October 26, 2009, 10:22 AM > > > > Dear Mr. Dev, > > I have a friend of mine in India who used to work in a famous college in the state of Tamilnadu. He was expecting a promotion as Prof and Head of the Department, since he was a double Ph.D, after the retirement of the incumbent HOD. But the institution was being run by a minority group. Hence, they appointed the person from the minority group as HOD, who was just a M Phil. This genteleman was 43 years old. The college was getting UGC grants and salary was as per the UGC pay scale. He made various representations. And finally he filed a case in the Madras High Court. He won the case. The college decided to file an appeal to the bench. He won the case there too. The college went to Supreme court. In the single judge bench, he won. The college then went to the SC bench and he won the case and was given back dated position. He came and joined as HOD. Three days later he reitred, on account of superannuation. His junior who was appointed as HOD first, had > gone on leave for the three days. Imagine the number of years that he was running from pillar to post figting his case. Whereas, for the college, there was legal counsel who appeared and the admin in charge used to fly down to Delhi every time there was a court hearing and stay in 4 star hotel with all expenses paid, since it was just a job for him. But for this poor professor, it was his hard earned money which he had to spend. > > He spent a fortune on his court case. He avauied his PF loan and also took loans outside. When he got the gratuity and PF and superannuation, he paid his loans. And he still had some loan of Rs.4 lakhs left. He asked his son to pay. His son asked him that after having lost everything and incurred so much of debts, was it a case well deserved just to get a title, Prof and HOD ( Retd ). And after putting the entire family to such hardship, since his wife had to make idly's at home and sell to pay for his children's needs and also borrow from others to pay his kids education fees. > > This is the state of affairs in Indian courts.There is a saying in India. In case you want to take revenge on someone whom you do not like and want him to be ruined, then give him two advices, a) Ask him to start a chit fund and b) Ask him to file a case in the court. You then, do not have to do anything further. He will himself get ruined. > > I am not an astrologer. But I beleive that whatever happens on account of destiny and the people who play various roles in the game are tools of God. > > Just thought, I must share this with you, before you proceed with court case etc. The total amount he spent in the 15 odd years was over RS 35 lakhs. > > Regards, > > John > --- On Mon, 10/26/09, dev dev <vdev17 (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote: > > dev dev <vdev17 (AT) (DOT) ca> > I am in deep trouble, please help soon > > Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:48 PM > > > > Respected astrologers: > > I have been asked to appear for the 5th time for promotion but meanwhile I was preparing the representation saying it was a wrong one. Now the letter is being circulated to have these interviews. I will be giving representation to reconsider mine and so will not attend these. Now 5th is the last chance, if I attend I will be given but I dont want it since I am good enough to get it in the first itself. Now will this be solved as such or will I have to fight it as a case going to the court. > > I am not a fool to accept it in 5th when people with no knowledge could get in the first. So either I have to resign or I will have to give representation and wait and then file a case. Why I am asking all this is I am very poor with respect to court matters I dont know how to proceed in the proper way. However, I am good in my research and teaching and much better than those who got in the first year itself. > Pl advise soon what I have to do? Is the court case essential or will it be solved without it? > > Dev > 1-2-62 2.30am, New Delhi > > --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: > > Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > > Re: Prarabadh > > Received: Monday, October 26, 2009, 2:28 AM > > > > Dear Members, > > I am not sure whether to write in pure techanical way or other ways. > > Every thing in this world is absolutely interconnected and is interdependable, Whether it is human being or others. Our own karma leads us to different yonis. The attraction or repulsion is in every moment of sojourn of soul, also governed by the three gunas & its combinations. > > Sometimes, we are drawn to the net of relationships due to past debt & relationships / karma. This life also plays a part in the game and new relationships are created whether by attraction or repulsion , love or hate, this in turn becomes becomes a starting point or even the cause of next birth & death cycles. It is a vicious cycle and which every soul ultimately endeavers to break at one point of time. This may not happen in this birth itself. > > Every kind of wish > Every kind of earning > Every kind of love > Every kind of Hate > Every kind of Help provided > Every kind of Help received > Every kind of Cheating done > Every kind of Cheated by others > Every kind of support provided > Every kind of support received > > Every action leads to bandhana & Rina, whether it is past or new. > > This has been time & again through many stories in puranas and they also show us the way to break out of this Rina Bandana. > > It is natural that when we see something beautifull, we immediately feel a longing to own it. This leads us spend time, effort in aquiring it. After obtaining it and enjoing it for some time, one finds that it has become less & less atrractive and looses interest in it. naturaly discards it and go for others. However the mind tends to get tired of this process and searches for that which never looses its attrtaction and ever beautifull. > > As the soul goes through these cycles, it shed its bandhana and finaly starts on journey in search of the ultimate attraction after having dissatified by all others, the paramatma. > > Till then, the soul is in the grip of kalachakra. > > This grip of Kalachakra is symetric to the centrifugal force and why we take pradakshina at temples. > > Planets indicate these paths woven by the Gunas & their qualities due to which all these attraction & repulsion occurs, whether we understand them correctly or not. > > Recently a friend of mine told a strange story which clearly indicates some of the phenomena. > > They are not brahmins but " Nair " caste and very strict vegetarians. He is Ganesha Upasaka and does Ganapathy japa/ Homa/ tarpana every day home. > > His mother was sick due to bone cancer aged about 55 and just about few days before her death, She expressed her wish to have Chicken as food. > > My friend was surprised & take back by this wish. She had never touched non-vegetarian food nor her parents family are non-vegetarians. So there is no way, she be attracted to such a taste. > > She was pious lady and always recited panchakshari mantra. > > However, since he knew her condition, he obliged. Within a few days (less than a week) she left him. > > It is not difficult to assume that her ailment caused by malefic planets also triggered the rajasic/tamasic gunas and may be wish / relationship that existed or remained unfulfilled in any of the past life. We cannot be sure. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > , " sapnag1968 " <sapnag1968@ ...> wrote: > > > > Resp. members, Hari Om, > > > > I wonder as how should we explain the phenomenon of intercaste, > > interreligion, interstate and intercontinental marriages to settle the > > accounts of previous lives? or are we opening the new accounts? This > > phenomenon has been ever increasing with the effect of globalization; > > This has also increased the number of divorces and multiple marriages. > > > > I will very much appreciate your feedback on the issues. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sapna > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Mail: http://ca.promos. / newmail/overview 2/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Dear Mr.Suresh:  Thanks for your reading. Anyway, I was not foolish because my brother has brains also, he read newspaper and told me to apply for a scholarship which I applied and got it. He has withdrawn lakhs of rupees without any problem from banks and got it home. He also asks me even when he buys vegetable as to what he shd buy. Only thing is his time was bad then.  Since I could not share with anyone, I wrote and did not expect reply for each posting. It was only my pressure being reduced.  Also regarding assessment, deliberate things were done and anyone would react as I reacted. If I was poor, I would not be writing any mails or thinking of fighting at all. I am not at all arrogant and am down to earth person.  Dev --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag wrote: Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag Re: I am in deep trouble, please help soon Received: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 7:47 AM  Dear Vasu, First of all understand that Astrology is not about sweat words one may like to hear, but all about pointing out what is wrong & what is correct, be it the way one thinks, behaves or does. It is upto the native to see the prudence in the logic and act accordingly. For the last many days you have been posting issues regarding your foolish brother and how he lost your money. You have stated that he is mentally weak, ill natured, believes any one, coward etc But you gave withdrawal power to him, this foolish, coward brother of yours to bank accounts where you were having your life long savings. The question that comes naturally in ones mind is who is more foolish among them? Then you presented another story about your promotions. So far good. But when you wrote about putting up application for 5th time and keep way from attending it and going for litigation or resigning doesn't augur well for a prudent person. I pointed out the blunder in this strategy and Mr.John very elaborately stated his own experience and the risks you are taking. I don't understand how this doesn't relate to your case. If you look deeper, have you thought why your so many messages are not answered? Fact is when you write a story, every one shall read it and leave it. Astrologers can reply when you are specific on your questions. In fact I had collected all your postings & replies and kept as a file. But reframed from answering since, I had a feeling that it shall be a waste as in the above case. Now if you want the astrological readings, You have two basic problems in your chart. 1)Moon + Mercury + Mars (lagna lord) are hemmed between malefics – Sun in the 12th & Saturn+Rahu in the 2nd. – Papa Madhya sthithy. 2)Jupiter your 2nd (dhana / kutumba) lord & 5th lord (pragjna) is afflicted by Gulka, Rahu ie ; it is Gulika rashyadhipathy as well as Rahu rashyadhipathy AND retrograde in Karma bhava. You are going through Vimshottari dasa of Saturn – Jupiter – Moon till 10-Nov-2009 Saturn- Jupiter – Mars till 04-Jan-2010 Saturn – Jupiter – Rahu till 20-May-2010 Then mercury dasa starts. Since Jupiter anthara is running which is the 5th lord, this is a time when the person should exert prudence that give in to emotions. However, the chidra of moon till 10-Nov-2009 is what is prompting you in that direction being mana karaka. Kalachakra Dasa clearly portraits the life events you have described so far. However, you are going through the dasa of Simha rashi from feb-2009. The main reason for your failure. This dasa is change from Mithuna to Simha what in astrology is called Markada Gati which is said to a failure in its initial state. The Simha – Simha went on till Jun-2009 and now Simha- Karkata is going till 04-Sep-2010. Though, the current sign is chara sign, it lord is placed in Sthira sign Both in Rasi as well as Navamsa. Hence, there is little chance of changing the job or getting much of promotion. However, there will be changes after this period. Till that time, it is better if you stick on to the job and through the formalities as required. Considering the afflictions, I would advice you to do the following. 1) offer naivedhya & abhisheka to lord mahadev temple.. 2) offer poojas at bhairava temple 3) Recite Devi Mahatmya (saptha sathy) once a month as per the norms as saptha sathi or trisathy. 4) recite Laxmi hridaya + Narana Hridaya every Fridays. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. , dev dev <vdev17 wrote: > > I thank all for their reply but none of them are connected to my case. It is a very simple case of promotion which was denied deliberately. I become junior by 5 years to people who joined with me and are inferior in terms of work, knowledge and sincerity. I can prove it. This was done by some body. >  > So I wanted an astrological reply and solution and not a general one. > Since I have had tough life in all ways, career was the only satisfaction, even there if I have to face this, then I may have to think of resigning, that is all; I have no reason to live. >  > Vasu > > --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> > Re: I am in deep trouble, please help soon > > Received: Monday, October 26, 2009, 10:55 AM > > >  > > > > Mr John, > It > is a good case for many how justice delayed is denied. Poor man,the Prof is that does not what is deserving some times will get denied.Not that the person is line is ineligible or not derving,some times you can not have valid reason why one has to suffer for none of his fault? > Any way we reconcile the fate when denies,no body can do any thing.Only satisfaction you remained a fighter,warrior in life but with no appreciation but your contentment enfd of the day. > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) >  > > --- On Mon, 10/26/09, John Aldrich <johnaldrichinc@ > wrote: > > John Aldrich <johnaldrichinc@ > > Re: I am in deep trouble, please help soon > > Monday, October 26, 2009, 10:22 AM > >  > > Dear Mr. Dev, >  > I have a friend of mine in India who used to work in a famous college in the state of Tamilnadu. He was expecting a promotion as Prof and Head of the Department, since he was a double Ph.D, after the retirement of the incumbent HOD. But the institution was being run by a minority group. Hence, they appointed the person from the minority group as HOD, who was just a M Phil. This genteleman was 43 years old. The college was getting UGC grants and salary was as per the UGC pay scale. He made various representations. And finally he filed a case in the Madras High Court. He won the case. The college decided to file an appeal to the bench. He won the case there too. The college went to Supreme court. In the single judge bench, he won. The college then went to the SC bench and he won the case and was given back dated position. He came and joined as HOD. Three days later he reitred, on account of superannuation. His junior who was appointed as HOD first, had > gone on leave for the three days. Imagine the number of years that he was running from pillar to post figting his case. Whereas, for the college, there was legal counsel who appeared and the admin in charge used to fly down to Delhi every time there was a court hearing and stay in 4 star hotel with all expenses paid, since it was just a job for him. But for this poor professor, it was his hard earned money which he had to spend. >  > He spent a fortune on his court case. He avauied his PF loan and also took loans outside. When he got the gratuity and PF and superannuation, he paid his loans. And he still had some loan of Rs.4 lakhs left. He asked his son to pay. His son asked him that after having lost everything and incurred so much of debts, was it a case well deserved just to get a title, Prof and HOD ( Retd ). And after putting the entire family to such hardship, since his wife had to make idly's at home and sell to pay for his children's needs and also borrow from others to pay his kids education fees. >  > This is the state of affairs in Indian courts.There is a saying in India. In case you want to take revenge on someone whom you do not like and want him to be ruined, then give him two advices, a) Ask him to start a chit fund and b) Ask him to file a case in the court. You then, do not have to do anything further. He will himself get ruined. >  > I am not an astrologer. But I beleive that whatever happens on account of destiny and the people who play various roles in the game are tools of God. >  > Just thought, I must share this with you, before you proceed with court case etc. The total amount he spent in the 15 odd years was over RS 35 lakhs. >  > Regards, >  > John > --- On Mon, 10/26/09, dev dev <vdev17 (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote: > > dev dev <vdev17 (AT) (DOT) ca> > I am in deep trouble, please help soon > > Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:48 PM > >  > > Respected astrologers: >  > I have been asked to appear for the 5th time for promotion but meanwhile I was preparing the representation saying it was a wrong one. Now the letter is being circulated to have these interviews. I will be giving representation to reconsider mine and so will not attend these. Now 5th is the last chance, if I attend I will be given but I dont want it since I am good enough to get it in the first itself. Now will this be solved as such or will I have to fight it as a case going to the court. >  > I am not a fool to accept it in 5th when people with no knowledge could get in the first. So either I have to resign or I will have to give representation and wait and then file a case. Why I am asking all this is I am very poor with respect to court matters I dont know how to proceed in the proper way. However, I am good in my research and teaching and much better than those who got in the first year itself. > Pl advise soon what I have to do? Is the court case essential or will it be solved without it? >  > Dev > 1-2-62  2.30am, New Delhi > > --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: > > Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > > Re: Prarabadh > > Received: Monday, October 26, 2009, 2:28 AM > >  > > Dear Members, > > I am not sure whether to write in pure techanical way or other ways. > > Every thing in this world is absolutely interconnected and is interdependable, Whether it is human being or others. Our own karma leads us to different yonis. The attraction or repulsion is in every moment of sojourn of soul, also governed by the three gunas & its combinations. > > Sometimes, we are drawn to the net of relationships due to past debt & relationships / karma. This life also plays a part in the game and new relationships are created whether by attraction or repulsion , love or hate, this in turn becomes becomes a starting point or even the cause of next birth & death cycles. It is a vicious cycle and which every soul ultimately endeavers to break at one point of time. This may not happen in this birth itself. > > Every kind of wish > Every kind of earning > Every kind of love > Every kind of Hate > Every kind of Help provided > Every kind of Help received > Every kind of Cheating done > Every kind of Cheated by others > Every kind of support provided > Every kind of support received > > Every action leads to bandhana & Rina, whether it is past or new. > > This has been time & again through many stories in puranas and they also show us the way to break out of this Rina Bandana. > > It is natural that when we see something beautifull, we immediately feel a longing to own it. This leads us spend time, effort in aquiring it. After obtaining it and enjoing it for some time, one finds that it has become less & less atrractive and looses interest in it. naturaly discards it and go for others. However the mind tends to get tired of this process and searches for that which never looses its attrtaction and ever beautifull. > > As the soul goes through these cycles, it shed its bandhana and finaly starts on journey in search of the ultimate attraction after having dissatified by all others, the paramatma. > > Till then, the soul is in the grip of kalachakra. > > This grip of Kalachakra is symetric to the centrifugal force and why we take pradakshina at temples. > > Planets indicate these paths woven by the Gunas & their qualities due to which all these attraction & repulsion occurs, whether we understand them correctly or not. > > Recently a friend of mine told a strange story which clearly indicates some of the phenomena. > > They are not brahmins but " Nair " caste and very strict vegetarians. He is Ganesha Upasaka and does Ganapathy japa/ Homa/ tarpana every day home. > > His mother was sick due to bone cancer aged about 55 and just about few days before her death, She expressed her wish to have Chicken as food. > > My friend was surprised & take back by this wish. She had never touched non-vegetarian food nor her parents family are non-vegetarians. So there is no way, she be attracted to such a taste. > > She was pious lady and always recited panchakshari mantra. > > However, since he knew her condition, he obliged. Within a few days (less than a week) she left him. > > It is not difficult to assume that her ailment caused by malefic planets also triggered the rajasic/tamasic gunas and may be wish / relationship that existed or remained unfulfilled in any of the past life. We cannot be sure. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > , " sapnag1968 " <sapnag1968@ ...> wrote: > > > > Resp. members, Hari Om, > > > > I wonder as how should we explain the phenomenon of intercaste, > > interreligion, interstate and intercontinental marriages to settle the > > accounts of previous lives? or are we opening the new accounts? This > > phenomenon has been ever increasing with the effect of globalization; > > This has also increased the number of divorces and multiple marriages. > > > > I will very much appreciate your feedback on the issues. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sapna > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Mail: http://ca.promos. / newmail/overview 2/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Dear Mr.Suresh:  I wish to add the following:  I have been doing Sandhyavandanam regularly in the morning since atleast 6 months. chanting aditya hridayam in the morning did archana for Siva on mondays for 6 weeks visited Rahu, Jupitar, chandra, sun and sukra navagraha sthalams and did archana at most of them visited Vishnu temples atleast 6 major ones and then swami malai Muruga temple and Pratyunkara amman and did archana at most of them Then I am singing krits by Saint Tyagaraja and Navagraha kritis by Dikshitar almost daily. All this I did since last 6 months.  Dev  --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag wrote: Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag Re: I am in deep trouble, please help soon Received: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 7:47 AM  Dear Vasu, First of all understand that Astrology is not about sweat words one may like to hear, but all about pointing out what is wrong & what is correct, be it the way one thinks, behaves or does. It is upto the native to see the prudence in the logic and act accordingly. For the last many days you have been posting issues regarding your foolish brother and how he lost your money. You have stated that he is mentally weak, ill natured, believes any one, coward etc But you gave withdrawal power to him, this foolish, coward brother of yours to bank accounts where you were having your life long savings. The question that comes naturally in ones mind is who is more foolish among them? Then you presented another story about your promotions. So far good. But when you wrote about putting up application for 5th time and keep way from attending it and going for litigation or resigning doesn't augur well for a prudent person. I pointed out the blunder in this strategy and Mr.John very elaborately stated his own experience and the risks you are taking. I don't understand how this doesn't relate to your case. If you look deeper, have you thought why your so many messages are not answered? Fact is when you write a story, every one shall read it and leave it. Astrologers can reply when you are specific on your questions. In fact I had collected all your postings & replies and kept as a file. But reframed from answering since, I had a feeling that it shall be a waste as in the above case. Now if you want the astrological readings, You have two basic problems in your chart. 1)Moon + Mercury + Mars (lagna lord) are hemmed between malefics – Sun in the 12th & Saturn+Rahu in the 2nd. – Papa Madhya sthithy. 2)Jupiter your 2nd (dhana / kutumba) lord & 5th lord (pragjna) is afflicted by Gulka, Rahu ie ; it is Gulika rashyadhipathy as well as Rahu rashyadhipathy AND retrograde in Karma bhava. You are going through Vimshottari dasa of Saturn – Jupiter – Moon till 10-Nov-2009 Saturn- Jupiter – Mars till 04-Jan-2010 Saturn – Jupiter – Rahu till 20-May-2010 Then mercury dasa starts. Since Jupiter anthara is running which is the 5th lord, this is a time when the person should exert prudence that give in to emotions. However, the chidra of moon till 10-Nov-2009 is what is prompting you in that direction being mana karaka. Kalachakra Dasa clearly portraits the life events you have described so far. However, you are going through the dasa of Simha rashi from feb-2009. The main reason for your failure. This dasa is change from Mithuna to Simha what in astrology is called Markada Gati which is said to a failure in its initial state. The Simha – Simha went on till Jun-2009 and now Simha- Karkata is going till 04-Sep-2010. Though, the current sign is chara sign, it lord is placed in Sthira sign Both in Rasi as well as Navamsa. Hence, there is little chance of changing the job or getting much of promotion. However, there will be changes after this period. Till that time, it is better if you stick on to the job and through the formalities as required. Considering the afflictions, I would advice you to do the following. 1) offer naivedhya & abhisheka to lord mahadev temple.. 2) offer poojas at bhairava temple 3) Recite Devi Mahatmya (saptha sathy) once a month as per the norms as saptha sathi or trisathy. 4) recite Laxmi hridaya + Narana Hridaya every Fridays. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. , dev dev <vdev17 wrote: > > I thank all for their reply but none of them are connected to my case. It is a very simple case of promotion which was denied deliberately. I become junior by 5 years to people who joined with me and are inferior in terms of work, knowledge and sincerity. I can prove it. This was done by some body. >  > So I wanted an astrological reply and solution and not a general one. > Since I have had tough life in all ways, career was the only satisfaction, even there if I have to face this, then I may have to think of resigning, that is all; I have no reason to live. >  > Vasu > > --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> > Re: I am in deep trouble, please help soon > > Received: Monday, October 26, 2009, 10:55 AM > > >  > > > > Mr John, > It > is a good case for many how justice delayed is denied. Poor man,the Prof is that does not what is deserving some times will get denied.Not that the person is line is ineligible or not derving,some times you can not have valid reason why one has to suffer for none of his fault? > Any way we reconcile the fate when denies,no body can do any thing.Only satisfaction you remained a fighter,warrior in life but with no appreciation but your contentment enfd of the day. > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) >  > > --- On Mon, 10/26/09, John Aldrich <johnaldrichinc@ > wrote: > > John Aldrich <johnaldrichinc@ > > Re: I am in deep trouble, please help soon > > Monday, October 26, 2009, 10:22 AM > >  > > Dear Mr. Dev, >  > I have a friend of mine in India who used to work in a famous college in the state of Tamilnadu. He was expecting a promotion as Prof and Head of the Department, since he was a double Ph.D, after the retirement of the incumbent HOD. But the institution was being run by a minority group. Hence, they appointed the person from the minority group as HOD, who was just a M Phil. This genteleman was 43 years old. The college was getting UGC grants and salary was as per the UGC pay scale. He made various representations. And finally he filed a case in the Madras High Court. He won the case. The college decided to file an appeal to the bench. He won the case there too. The college went to Supreme court. In the single judge bench, he won. The college then went to the SC bench and he won the case and was given back dated position. He came and joined as HOD. Three days later he reitred, on account of superannuation. His junior who was appointed as HOD first, had > gone on leave for the three days. Imagine the number of years that he was running from pillar to post figting his case. Whereas, for the college, there was legal counsel who appeared and the admin in charge used to fly down to Delhi every time there was a court hearing and stay in 4 star hotel with all expenses paid, since it was just a job for him. But for this poor professor, it was his hard earned money which he had to spend. >  > He spent a fortune on his court case. He avauied his PF loan and also took loans outside. When he got the gratuity and PF and superannuation, he paid his loans. And he still had some loan of Rs.4 lakhs left. He asked his son to pay. His son asked him that after having lost everything and incurred so much of debts, was it a case well deserved just to get a title, Prof and HOD ( Retd ). And after putting the entire family to such hardship, since his wife had to make idly's at home and sell to pay for his children's needs and also borrow from others to pay his kids education fees. >  > This is the state of affairs in Indian courts.There is a saying in India. In case you want to take revenge on someone whom you do not like and want him to be ruined, then give him two advices, a) Ask him to start a chit fund and b) Ask him to file a case in the court. You then, do not have to do anything further. He will himself get ruined. >  > I am not an astrologer. But I beleive that whatever happens on account of destiny and the people who play various roles in the game are tools of God. >  > Just thought, I must share this with you, before you proceed with court case etc. The total amount he spent in the 15 odd years was over RS 35 lakhs. >  > Regards, >  > John > --- On Mon, 10/26/09, dev dev <vdev17 (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote: > > dev dev <vdev17 (AT) (DOT) ca> > I am in deep trouble, please help soon > > Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:48 PM > >  > > Respected astrologers: >  > I have been asked to appear for the 5th time for promotion but meanwhile I was preparing the representation saying it was a wrong one. Now the letter is being circulated to have these interviews. I will be giving representation to reconsider mine and so will not attend these. Now 5th is the last chance, if I attend I will be given but I dont want it since I am good enough to get it in the first itself. Now will this be solved as such or will I have to fight it as a case going to the court. >  > I am not a fool to accept it in 5th when people with no knowledge could get in the first. So either I have to resign or I will have to give representation and wait and then file a case. Why I am asking all this is I am very poor with respect to court matters I dont know how to proceed in the proper way. However, I am good in my research and teaching and much better than those who got in the first year itself. > Pl advise soon what I have to do? Is the court case essential or will it be solved without it? >  > Dev > 1-2-62  2.30am, New Delhi > > --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: > > Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > > Re: Prarabadh > > Received: Monday, October 26, 2009, 2:28 AM > >  > > Dear Members, > > I am not sure whether to write in pure techanical way or other ways. > > Every thing in this world is absolutely interconnected and is interdependable, Whether it is human being or others. Our own karma leads us to different yonis. The attraction or repulsion is in every moment of sojourn of soul, also governed by the three gunas & its combinations. > > Sometimes, we are drawn to the net of relationships due to past debt & relationships / karma. This life also plays a part in the game and new relationships are created whether by attraction or repulsion , love or hate, this in turn becomes becomes a starting point or even the cause of next birth & death cycles. It is a vicious cycle and which every soul ultimately endeavers to break at one point of time. This may not happen in this birth itself. > > Every kind of wish > Every kind of earning > Every kind of love > Every kind of Hate > Every kind of Help provided > Every kind of Help received > Every kind of Cheating done > Every kind of Cheated by others > Every kind of support provided > Every kind of support received > > Every action leads to bandhana & Rina, whether it is past or new. > > This has been time & again through many stories in puranas and they also show us the way to break out of this Rina Bandana. > > It is natural that when we see something beautifull, we immediately feel a longing to own it. This leads us spend time, effort in aquiring it. After obtaining it and enjoing it for some time, one finds that it has become less & less atrractive and looses interest in it. naturaly discards it and go for others. However the mind tends to get tired of this process and searches for that which never looses its attrtaction and ever beautifull. > > As the soul goes through these cycles, it shed its bandhana and finaly starts on journey in search of the ultimate attraction after having dissatified by all others, the paramatma. > > Till then, the soul is in the grip of kalachakra. > > This grip of Kalachakra is symetric to the centrifugal force and why we take pradakshina at temples. > > Planets indicate these paths woven by the Gunas & their qualities due to which all these attraction & repulsion occurs, whether we understand them correctly or not. > > Recently a friend of mine told a strange story which clearly indicates some of the phenomena. > > They are not brahmins but " Nair " caste and very strict vegetarians. He is Ganesha Upasaka and does Ganapathy japa/ Homa/ tarpana every day home. > > His mother was sick due to bone cancer aged about 55 and just about few days before her death, She expressed her wish to have Chicken as food. > > My friend was surprised & take back by this wish. She had never touched non-vegetarian food nor her parents family are non-vegetarians. So there is no way, she be attracted to such a taste. > > She was pious lady and always recited panchakshari mantra. > > However, since he knew her condition, he obliged. Within a few days (less than a week) she left him. > > It is not difficult to assume that her ailment caused by malefic planets also triggered the rajasic/tamasic gunas and may be wish / relationship that existed or remained unfulfilled in any of the past life. We cannot be sure. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > , " sapnag1968 " <sapnag1968@ ...> wrote: > > > > Resp. members, Hari Om, > > > > I wonder as how should we explain the phenomenon of intercaste, > > interreligion, interstate and intercontinental marriages to settle the > > accounts of previous lives? or are we opening the new accounts? This > > phenomenon has been ever increasing with the effect of globalization; > > This has also increased the number of divorces and multiple marriages. > > > > I will very much appreciate your feedback on the issues. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sapna > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Mail: http://ca.promos. / newmail/overview 2/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Dear all: In continuation to what I wrote earlier, I wish to add the following.  I have taught Vishnusahasranama and Adiyahrudayam to many free of cost some 10 years ago.  I have loned money to many without interest.  I have fed some brahmins though I have no lady and cook myself,  I have taught music to some free of cost and to some with nominal amount.  I have helped one of my sisters and their family in several ways - money, teaching subjects, teaching music, physical help and so on.  I have not cheated any individual in terms of money or never misbehaved with any lady ever, never took nonvegetarian food including eggs.  I immensely respected all my college teachers and also music gurus.  Actually I am not suppose to say all this but after all I am a human being, why I should suffer so much ? I may not do everything with some expectation but then it is human mind which makes me to think, why then still I am suffering.  Dev --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag wrote: Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag Re: I am in deep trouble, please help soon Received: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 7:47 AM  Dear Vasu, First of all understand that Astrology is not about sweat words one may like to hear, but all about pointing out what is wrong & what is correct, be it the way one thinks, behaves or does. It is upto the native to see the prudence in the logic and act accordingly. For the last many days you have been posting issues regarding your foolish brother and how he lost your money. You have stated that he is mentally weak, ill natured, believes any one, coward etc But you gave withdrawal power to him, this foolish, coward brother of yours to bank accounts where you were having your life long savings. The question that comes naturally in ones mind is who is more foolish among them? Then you presented another story about your promotions. So far good. But when you wrote about putting up application for 5th time and keep way from attending it and going for litigation or resigning doesn't augur well for a prudent person. I pointed out the blunder in this strategy and Mr.John very elaborately stated his own experience and the risks you are taking. I don't understand how this doesn't relate to your case. If you look deeper, have you thought why your so many messages are not answered? Fact is when you write a story, every one shall read it and leave it. Astrologers can reply when you are specific on your questions. In fact I had collected all your postings & replies and kept as a file. But reframed from answering since, I had a feeling that it shall be a waste as in the above case. Now if you want the astrological readings, You have two basic problems in your chart. 1)Moon + Mercury + Mars (lagna lord) are hemmed between malefics – Sun in the 12th & Saturn+Rahu in the 2nd. – Papa Madhya sthithy. 2)Jupiter your 2nd (dhana / kutumba) lord & 5th lord (pragjna) is afflicted by Gulka, Rahu ie ; it is Gulika rashyadhipathy as well as Rahu rashyadhipathy AND retrograde in Karma bhava. You are going through Vimshottari dasa of Saturn – Jupiter – Moon till 10-Nov-2009 Saturn- Jupiter – Mars till 04-Jan-2010 Saturn – Jupiter – Rahu till 20-May-2010 Then mercury dasa starts. Since Jupiter anthara is running which is the 5th lord, this is a time when the person should exert prudence that give in to emotions. However, the chidra of moon till 10-Nov-2009 is what is prompting you in that direction being mana karaka. Kalachakra Dasa clearly portraits the life events you have described so far. However, you are going through the dasa of Simha rashi from feb-2009. The main reason for your failure. This dasa is change from Mithuna to Simha what in astrology is called Markada Gati which is said to a failure in its initial state. The Simha – Simha went on till Jun-2009 and now Simha- Karkata is going till 04-Sep-2010. Though, the current sign is chara sign, it lord is placed in Sthira sign Both in Rasi as well as Navamsa. Hence, there is little chance of changing the job or getting much of promotion. However, there will be changes after this period. Till that time, it is better if you stick on to the job and through the formalities as required. Considering the afflictions, I would advice you to do the following. 1) offer naivedhya & abhisheka to lord mahadev temple.. 2) offer poojas at bhairava temple 3) Recite Devi Mahatmya (saptha sathy) once a month as per the norms as saptha sathi or trisathy. 4) recite Laxmi hridaya + Narana Hridaya every Fridays. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. , dev dev <vdev17 wrote: > > I thank all for their reply but none of them are connected to my case. It is a very simple case of promotion which was denied deliberately. I become junior by 5 years to people who joined with me and are inferior in terms of work, knowledge and sincerity. I can prove it. This was done by some body. >  > So I wanted an astrological reply and solution and not a general one. > Since I have had tough life in all ways, career was the only satisfaction, even there if I have to face this, then I may have to think of resigning, that is all; I have no reason to live. >  > Vasu > > --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> > Re: I am in deep trouble, please help soon > > Received: Monday, October 26, 2009, 10:55 AM > > >  > > > > Mr John, > It > is a good case for many how justice delayed is denied. Poor man,the Prof is that does not what is deserving some times will get denied.Not that the person is line is ineligible or not derving,some times you can not have valid reason why one has to suffer for none of his fault? > Any way we reconcile the fate when denies,no body can do any thing.Only satisfaction you remained a fighter,warrior in life but with no appreciation but your contentment enfd of the day. > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) >  > > --- On Mon, 10/26/09, John Aldrich <johnaldrichinc@ > wrote: > > John Aldrich <johnaldrichinc@ > > Re: I am in deep trouble, please help soon > > Monday, October 26, 2009, 10:22 AM > >  > > Dear Mr. Dev, >  > I have a friend of mine in India who used to work in a famous college in the state of Tamilnadu. He was expecting a promotion as Prof and Head of the Department, since he was a double Ph.D, after the retirement of the incumbent HOD. But the institution was being run by a minority group. Hence, they appointed the person from the minority group as HOD, who was just a M Phil. This genteleman was 43 years old. The college was getting UGC grants and salary was as per the UGC pay scale. He made various representations. And finally he filed a case in the Madras High Court. He won the case. The college decided to file an appeal to the bench. He won the case there too. The college went to Supreme court. In the single judge bench, he won. The college then went to the SC bench and he won the case and was given back dated position. He came and joined as HOD. Three days later he reitred, on account of superannuation. His junior who was appointed as HOD first, had > gone on leave for the three days. Imagine the number of years that he was running from pillar to post figting his case. Whereas, for the college, there was legal counsel who appeared and the admin in charge used to fly down to Delhi every time there was a court hearing and stay in 4 star hotel with all expenses paid, since it was just a job for him. But for this poor professor, it was his hard earned money which he had to spend. >  > He spent a fortune on his court case. He avauied his PF loan and also took loans outside. When he got the gratuity and PF and superannuation, he paid his loans. And he still had some loan of Rs.4 lakhs left. He asked his son to pay. His son asked him that after having lost everything and incurred so much of debts, was it a case well deserved just to get a title, Prof and HOD ( Retd ). And after putting the entire family to such hardship, since his wife had to make idly's at home and sell to pay for his children's needs and also borrow from others to pay his kids education fees. >  > This is the state of affairs in Indian courts.There is a saying in India. In case you want to take revenge on someone whom you do not like and want him to be ruined, then give him two advices, a) Ask him to start a chit fund and b) Ask him to file a case in the court. You then, do not have to do anything further. He will himself get ruined. >  > I am not an astrologer. But I beleive that whatever happens on account of destiny and the people who play various roles in the game are tools of God. >  > Just thought, I must share this with you, before you proceed with court case etc. The total amount he spent in the 15 odd years was over RS 35 lakhs. >  > Regards, >  > John > --- On Mon, 10/26/09, dev dev <vdev17 (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote: > > dev dev <vdev17 (AT) (DOT) ca> > I am in deep trouble, please help soon > > Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:48 PM > >  > > Respected astrologers: >  > I have been asked to appear for the 5th time for promotion but meanwhile I was preparing the representation saying it was a wrong one. Now the letter is being circulated to have these interviews. I will be giving representation to reconsider mine and so will not attend these. Now 5th is the last chance, if I attend I will be given but I dont want it since I am good enough to get it in the first itself. Now will this be solved as such or will I have to fight it as a case going to the court. >  > I am not a fool to accept it in 5th when people with no knowledge could get in the first. So either I have to resign or I will have to give representation and wait and then file a case. Why I am asking all this is I am very poor with respect to court matters I dont know how to proceed in the proper way. However, I am good in my research and teaching and much better than those who got in the first year itself. > Pl advise soon what I have to do? Is the court case essential or will it be solved without it? >  > Dev > 1-2-62  2.30am, New Delhi > > --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: > > Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > > Re: Prarabadh > > Received: Monday, October 26, 2009, 2:28 AM > >  > > Dear Members, > > I am not sure whether to write in pure techanical way or other ways. > > Every thing in this world is absolutely interconnected and is interdependable, Whether it is human being or others. Our own karma leads us to different yonis. The attraction or repulsion is in every moment of sojourn of soul, also governed by the three gunas & its combinations. > > Sometimes, we are drawn to the net of relationships due to past debt & relationships / karma. This life also plays a part in the game and new relationships are created whether by attraction or repulsion , love or hate, this in turn becomes becomes a starting point or even the cause of next birth & death cycles. It is a vicious cycle and which every soul ultimately endeavers to break at one point of time. This may not happen in this birth itself. > > Every kind of wish > Every kind of earning > Every kind of love > Every kind of Hate > Every kind of Help provided > Every kind of Help received > Every kind of Cheating done > Every kind of Cheated by others > Every kind of support provided > Every kind of support received > > Every action leads to bandhana & Rina, whether it is past or new. > > This has been time & again through many stories in puranas and they also show us the way to break out of this Rina Bandana. > > It is natural that when we see something beautifull, we immediately feel a longing to own it. This leads us spend time, effort in aquiring it. After obtaining it and enjoing it for some time, one finds that it has become less & less atrractive and looses interest in it. naturaly discards it and go for others. However the mind tends to get tired of this process and searches for that which never looses its attrtaction and ever beautifull. > > As the soul goes through these cycles, it shed its bandhana and finaly starts on journey in search of the ultimate attraction after having dissatified by all others, the paramatma. > > Till then, the soul is in the grip of kalachakra. > > This grip of Kalachakra is symetric to the centrifugal force and why we take pradakshina at temples. > > Planets indicate these paths woven by the Gunas & their qualities due to which all these attraction & repulsion occurs, whether we understand them correctly or not. > > Recently a friend of mine told a strange story which clearly indicates some of the phenomena. > > They are not brahmins but " Nair " caste and very strict vegetarians. He is Ganesha Upasaka and does Ganapathy japa/ Homa/ tarpana every day home. > > His mother was sick due to bone cancer aged about 55 and just about few days before her death, She expressed her wish to have Chicken as food. > > My friend was surprised & take back by this wish. She had never touched non-vegetarian food nor her parents family are non-vegetarians. So there is no way, she be attracted to such a taste. > > She was pious lady and always recited panchakshari mantra. > > However, since he knew her condition, he obliged. Within a few days (less than a week) she left him. > > It is not difficult to assume that her ailment caused by malefic planets also triggered the rajasic/tamasic gunas and may be wish / relationship that existed or remained unfulfilled in any of the past life. We cannot be sure. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > , " sapnag1968 " <sapnag1968@ ...> wrote: > > > > Resp. members, Hari Om, > > > > I wonder as how should we explain the phenomenon of intercaste, > > interreligion, interstate and intercontinental marriages to settle the > > accounts of previous lives? or are we opening the new accounts? This > > phenomenon has been ever increasing with the effect of globalization; > > This has also increased the number of divorces and multiple marriages. > > > > I will very much appreciate your feedback on the issues. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sapna > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Mail: http://ca.promos. / newmail/overview 2/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Dear Suresh Ji, While I understand that the kind of knowledge you have ( and other Gurujis in this group) is veru diffcult to have but the more I read mails in this group the more I am inclined towards learning to and having more knowledge about astrology and using the same. I also agree this might be requiring a lot more time than I can think of but then I also feel that one has to start somewhere. After learning maybe if I can be of help to even a few needy people I would consider this as a reward for spending time on learning astrology. Can I do it with the help of the learned members of this group of do I have to have a Guru who will guide me. Please do let me have your opinion. Regards Sameer Aggarwal Keep up with people you care about with India Mail. Learn how. http://in.overview.mail./connectmore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Dear Sameer Agarwal, If you are inclined to learn astrology, go ahead. Late B.V.Raman has written many books on the subject. But don't think that you can learn in afew days time. It is best to have a guru someone with traditional background. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. ________________________________ sameer aggarwal <sam_agg888 Wed, October 28, 2009 10:44:54 PM Re: I am in deep trouble, please help soon Dear Suresh Ji, While I understand that the kind of knowledge you have ( and other Gurujis in this group) is veru diffcult to have but the more I read mails in this group the more I am inclined towards learning to and having more knowledge about astrology and using the same. I also agree this might be requiring a lot more time than I can think of but then I also feel that one has to start somewhere. After learning maybe if I can be of help to even a few needy people I would consider this as a reward for spending time on learning astrology. Can I do it with the help of the learned members of this group of do I have to have a Guru who will guide me. Please do let me have your opinion. Regards Sameer Aggarwal Keep up with people you care about with India Mail. Learn how. http://in.overview. mail.. com/connectmore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Dear all:   I want to say another thing. I agree I have posted a lot.  First of all, I would say I dont like to gain sympathy from anyone. In fact even people whom I know very well, if they start talking something like O God you are suffering, I hate it and change the topic. So I have not seen any one of you, so I would not expect that.  Then my intention is not to bore you. In fact I hate gossips and I dont even talk to others to that extent. So I dont like to communicate unnecessarily, that is a fact.  SO why I wrote so many. It is because I am also half astrologer and had made predictions for others. However my horoscope is different and very complex and even two experts dont agree. So I have revealed all information which I have revealed to none, even to those whom I know for several years. SO just like not hiding anything to a doctor, I have written since all have given different predictions for me, atleast seeing the events, they can correlate and find out which is strongest planet, I thought and also for my own study. That is why I have written. So hope all understand this.  Dev --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag wrote: Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag Re: I am in deep trouble, please help soon Received: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 7:47 AM  Dear Vasu, First of all understand that Astrology is not about sweat words one may like to hear, but all about pointing out what is wrong & what is correct, be it the way one thinks, behaves or does. It is upto the native to see the prudence in the logic and act accordingly. For the last many days you have been posting issues regarding your foolish brother and how he lost your money. You have stated that he is mentally weak, ill natured, believes any one, coward etc But you gave withdrawal power to him, this foolish, coward brother of yours to bank accounts where you were having your life long savings. The question that comes naturally in ones mind is who is more foolish among them? Then you presented another story about your promotions. So far good. But when you wrote about putting up application for 5th time and keep way from attending it and going for litigation or resigning doesn't augur well for a prudent person. I pointed out the blunder in this strategy and Mr.John very elaborately stated his own experience and the risks you are taking. I don't understand how this doesn't relate to your case. If you look deeper, have you thought why your so many messages are not answered? Fact is when you write a story, every one shall read it and leave it. Astrologers can reply when you are specific on your questions. In fact I had collected all your postings & replies and kept as a file. But reframed from answering since, I had a feeling that it shall be a waste as in the above case. Now if you want the astrological readings, You have two basic problems in your chart. 1)Moon + Mercury + Mars (lagna lord) are hemmed between malefics – Sun in the 12th & Saturn+Rahu in the 2nd. – Papa Madhya sthithy. 2)Jupiter your 2nd (dhana / kutumba) lord & 5th lord (pragjna) is afflicted by Gulka, Rahu ie ; it is Gulika rashyadhipathy as well as Rahu rashyadhipathy AND retrograde in Karma bhava. You are going through Vimshottari dasa of Saturn – Jupiter – Moon till 10-Nov-2009 Saturn- Jupiter – Mars till 04-Jan-2010 Saturn – Jupiter – Rahu till 20-May-2010 Then mercury dasa starts. Since Jupiter anthara is running which is the 5th lord, this is a time when the person should exert prudence that give in to emotions. However, the chidra of moon till 10-Nov-2009 is what is prompting you in that direction being mana karaka. Kalachakra Dasa clearly portraits the life events you have described so far. However, you are going through the dasa of Simha rashi from feb-2009. The main reason for your failure. This dasa is change from Mithuna to Simha what in astrology is called Markada Gati which is said to a failure in its initial state. The Simha – Simha went on till Jun-2009 and now Simha- Karkata is going till 04-Sep-2010. Though, the current sign is chara sign, it lord is placed in Sthira sign Both in Rasi as well as Navamsa. Hence, there is little chance of changing the job or getting much of promotion. However, there will be changes after this period. Till that time, it is better if you stick on to the job and through the formalities as required. Considering the afflictions, I would advice you to do the following. 1) offer naivedhya & abhisheka to lord mahadev temple.. 2) offer poojas at bhairava temple 3) Recite Devi Mahatmya (saptha sathy) once a month as per the norms as saptha sathi or trisathy. 4) recite Laxmi hridaya + Narana Hridaya every Fridays. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. , dev dev <vdev17 wrote: > > I thank all for their reply but none of them are connected to my case. It is a very simple case of promotion which was denied deliberately. I become junior by 5 years to people who joined with me and are inferior in terms of work, knowledge and sincerity. I can prove it. This was done by some body. >  > So I wanted an astrological reply and solution and not a general one. > Since I have had tough life in all ways, career was the only satisfaction, even there if I have to face this, then I may have to think of resigning, that is all; I have no reason to live. >  > Vasu > > --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> > Re: I am in deep trouble, please help soon > > Received: Monday, October 26, 2009, 10:55 AM > > >  > > > > Mr John, > It > is a good case for many how justice delayed is denied. Poor man,the Prof is that does not what is deserving some times will get denied.Not that the person is line is ineligible or not derving,some times you can not have valid reason why one has to suffer for none of his fault? > Any way we reconcile the fate when denies,no body can do any thing.Only satisfaction you remained a fighter,warrior in life but with no appreciation but your contentment enfd of the day. > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) >  > > --- On Mon, 10/26/09, John Aldrich <johnaldrichinc@ > wrote: > > John Aldrich <johnaldrichinc@ > > Re: I am in deep trouble, please help soon > > Monday, October 26, 2009, 10:22 AM > >  > > Dear Mr. Dev, >  > I have a friend of mine in India who used to work in a famous college in the state of Tamilnadu. He was expecting a promotion as Prof and Head of the Department, since he was a double Ph.D, after the retirement of the incumbent HOD. But the institution was being run by a minority group. Hence, they appointed the person from the minority group as HOD, who was just a M Phil. This genteleman was 43 years old. The college was getting UGC grants and salary was as per the UGC pay scale. He made various representations. And finally he filed a case in the Madras High Court. He won the case. The college decided to file an appeal to the bench. He won the case there too. The college went to Supreme court. In the single judge bench, he won. The college then went to the SC bench and he won the case and was given back dated position. He came and joined as HOD. Three days later he reitred, on account of superannuation. His junior who was appointed as HOD first, had > gone on leave for the three days. Imagine the number of years that he was running from pillar to post figting his case. Whereas, for the college, there was legal counsel who appeared and the admin in charge used to fly down to Delhi every time there was a court hearing and stay in 4 star hotel with all expenses paid, since it was just a job for him. But for this poor professor, it was his hard earned money which he had to spend. >  > He spent a fortune on his court case. He avauied his PF loan and also took loans outside. When he got the gratuity and PF and superannuation, he paid his loans. And he still had some loan of Rs.4 lakhs left. He asked his son to pay. His son asked him that after having lost everything and incurred so much of debts, was it a case well deserved just to get a title, Prof and HOD ( Retd ). And after putting the entire family to such hardship, since his wife had to make idly's at home and sell to pay for his children's needs and also borrow from others to pay his kids education fees. >  > This is the state of affairs in Indian courts.There is a saying in India. In case you want to take revenge on someone whom you do not like and want him to be ruined, then give him two advices, a) Ask him to start a chit fund and b) Ask him to file a case in the court. You then, do not have to do anything further. He will himself get ruined. >  > I am not an astrologer. But I beleive that whatever happens on account of destiny and the people who play various roles in the game are tools of God. >  > Just thought, I must share this with you, before you proceed with court case etc. The total amount he spent in the 15 odd years was over RS 35 lakhs. >  > Regards, >  > John > --- On Mon, 10/26/09, dev dev <vdev17 (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote: > > dev dev <vdev17 (AT) (DOT) ca> > I am in deep trouble, please help soon > > Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:48 PM > >  > > Respected astrologers: >  > I have been asked to appear for the 5th time for promotion but meanwhile I was preparing the representation saying it was a wrong one. Now the letter is being circulated to have these interviews. I will be giving representation to reconsider mine and so will not attend these. Now 5th is the last chance, if I attend I will be given but I dont want it since I am good enough to get it in the first itself. Now will this be solved as such or will I have to fight it as a case going to the court. >  > I am not a fool to accept it in 5th when people with no knowledge could get in the first. So either I have to resign or I will have to give representation and wait and then file a case. Why I am asking all this is I am very poor with respect to court matters I dont know how to proceed in the proper way. However, I am good in my research and teaching and much better than those who got in the first year itself. > Pl advise soon what I have to do? Is the court case essential or will it be solved without it? >  > Dev > 1-2-62  2.30am, New Delhi > > --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: > > Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > > Re: Prarabadh > > Received: Monday, October 26, 2009, 2:28 AM > >  > > Dear Members, > > I am not sure whether to write in pure techanical way or other ways. > > Every thing in this world is absolutely interconnected and is interdependable, Whether it is human being or others. Our own karma leads us to different yonis. The attraction or repulsion is in every moment of sojourn of soul, also governed by the three gunas & its combinations. > > Sometimes, we are drawn to the net of relationships due to past debt & relationships / karma. This life also plays a part in the game and new relationships are created whether by attraction or repulsion , love or hate, this in turn becomes becomes a starting point or even the cause of next birth & death cycles. It is a vicious cycle and which every soul ultimately endeavers to break at one point of time. This may not happen in this birth itself. > > Every kind of wish > Every kind of earning > Every kind of love > Every kind of Hate > Every kind of Help provided > Every kind of Help received > Every kind of Cheating done > Every kind of Cheated by others > Every kind of support provided > Every kind of support received > > Every action leads to bandhana & Rina, whether it is past or new. > > This has been time & again through many stories in puranas and they also show us the way to break out of this Rina Bandana. > > It is natural that when we see something beautifull, we immediately feel a longing to own it. This leads us spend time, effort in aquiring it. After obtaining it and enjoing it for some time, one finds that it has become less & less atrractive and looses interest in it. naturaly discards it and go for others. However the mind tends to get tired of this process and searches for that which never looses its attrtaction and ever beautifull. > > As the soul goes through these cycles, it shed its bandhana and finaly starts on journey in search of the ultimate attraction after having dissatified by all others, the paramatma. > > Till then, the soul is in the grip of kalachakra. > > This grip of Kalachakra is symetric to the centrifugal force and why we take pradakshina at temples. > > Planets indicate these paths woven by the Gunas & their qualities due to which all these attraction & repulsion occurs, whether we understand them correctly or not. > > Recently a friend of mine told a strange story which clearly indicates some of the phenomena. > > They are not brahmins but " Nair " caste and very strict vegetarians. He is Ganesha Upasaka and does Ganapathy japa/ Homa/ tarpana every day home. > > His mother was sick due to bone cancer aged about 55 and just about few days before her death, She expressed her wish to have Chicken as food. > > My friend was surprised & take back by this wish. She had never touched non-vegetarian food nor her parents family are non-vegetarians. So there is no way, she be attracted to such a taste. > > She was pious lady and always recited panchakshari mantra. > > However, since he knew her condition, he obliged. Within a few days (less than a week) she left him. > > It is not difficult to assume that her ailment caused by malefic planets also triggered the rajasic/tamasic gunas and may be wish / relationship that existed or remained unfulfilled in any of the past life. We cannot be sure. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > , " sapnag1968 " <sapnag1968@ ...> wrote: > > > > Resp. members, Hari Om, > > > > I wonder as how should we explain the phenomenon of intercaste, > > interreligion, interstate and intercontinental marriages to settle the > > accounts of previous lives? or are we opening the new accounts? This > > phenomenon has been ever increasing with the effect of globalization; > > This has also increased the number of divorces and multiple marriages. > > > > I will very much appreciate your feedback on the issues. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sapna > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Mail: http://ca.promos. / newmail/overview 2/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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