Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Dear Karuna Ji,You have sent me mail as under and delayed reply is also under your mail:- respected dhirendra ji i am amazed by ur birth time rectification method plz help me to rectify birth time of my husband i will be very thankful to u his dob 17 oct 1980 place of birth jalandhar/jullundhar time is between 4:30 am to 4:45 am actually nobody noticed the exact time so plz help. thanking you karunaPlease note it that if I use Lahiri Ayanamsa then rectified time of your husband comes 05:06:16AM and at that time only Sub lord of ascendant is Moon and Sub lord of Moon itself is Moon and Sub Sub lord of ascendant is found Sun and Star lord is also found Sun and again this Sun is significator of 1St cusp.This rectified time comes after your range of time.It is correct as it is with in 30 minutes of your given time 4:45AM. With good wishes, Dhirendra Nath Misra ________________________________ Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag Wed, October 28, 2009 9:00:42 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear Karan Kumari, I feel the correct time of birth is 4:43:00 AM. This is as per Chitra Paksha Ayanamsa (Lahiri). Between the time gap you had mentioned 4:25 to 4:45, there could be three timmings 4:23:00AM. 4:36:00AM and 4:43:00AM, Out of these, I tend to select 4:43:00AM as the correct time. There could be few seconds upto 27sec which is immaterial for general use. The logic & reasoning is very complex & elaborate. However, As shree krishna ji has stated, it doesn't matter much in practical astrology. Ultimately it all boils down to real life, grace of god. I hope this helps you. , Karan Kumari <architakhera@ ...> wrote: > > respected vattem ji > i respect your thoughts but here something of urgent importance is needed. > he has tried to commit suicide twice and as a wife nobody can understand what > i am going through.acc to many his right time is required i even gave money > to rectify his time on net but the person cheated.so plz forgive if any mistake > i have done. > vattem ji u have always helped and solved my problems in many ways plz > if u do not mind i like to donate one beautiful shaligram shila to u .if u believe > or trust in LORD HARI plz let me know as it can ge given only to vaishanv. > thank you > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> > > Sun, October 25, 2009 12:17:38 PM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > Hello Archita Ji, > I have seen you taking keen interest in jyotish for the past couple of moths.By this time analysis/prediction s got for you and for ther known people to you must have some comprehensive idea of Astrology. > we know in Jyotish,there are different apparoches and each one as per his interst puruses Jyotish and talk sevral things. > In fact when you want to really test the accuarcy of dates of birth it is really difficult to say how much accuarates it is. > As jyotish.Astrologer it is necessary that details are correct to the extent mentioned through his own method with reference to the issue raise. > None of present Astrologer cast horoscopes and give analysis .All of us use softwares and each softwres has it's own whether in ayanamsa or some other calculation of dasa itself. having definete influnce on results/events in life. > By going for rectification or so called accurate time of birth does not really serve any great purpose.It is therfore good to stick to accpeted methods of mother informing/recording birth time or others noting it and making it official.Might also be knowing even Obama; time of birth is also not the one as on official records.But no body suggested /worked out but made predictions based on declared time.The mothod necessitating for corrections is only a waywordness. After accurate birth time no body can dictate the kind of events/happens that can occur/take place. > Late Shri B.V.Raman specifically mentions invariably " except creator Brahma can say eith certainity what will definetely happen.? > Please be methodical and try to increase/enhance Astrological awareness only byperforming yourself and leaving the results to Almighty. > In any case please read Chapter xxxviii of Hindu Predictive AStrology to know when and how the necesity for birth time rectification is needed. > Also we have a group of Timing of Events following KAS also check timing of birth and give prediction. > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > wrote: > > Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 1:42 PM > > > > respected suresh ji > plz take your time but plz do reply when u free to give ur precious time. i am posting > his birth details if any more details needed plz inform. > his dob 17 oct 1980 > place is jullundhar/jalandha r > time is 4:25 to 4:45 am > thank you very much > karuna > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > > > Sat, October 24, 2009 11:02:34 PM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > Dear Karan, > > I shall try to do it. pls give me some time & post the details. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > > > Sat, October 24, 2009 1:30:17 PM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > suresh ji i again request to reply. > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > > > Fri, October 23, 2009 11:12:40 PM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > suresh ji can u plz do birth time correction of my huasband i request u with my hands joined.plz > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > > > Tue, October 20, 2009 10:20:50 AM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > Dear Dhirendranath Ji, > > //Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method // > > What do you find " philisophical " in " my " method? > > And does what " Shri Suresh ji " believes really matters?. > > Any sane Astrologer will cross check any aspect to confirm factors just like any other science and that is exactly what is meant by elaboration and again mentioned by Shri Mrityunjay Tripaty also. > > Perhaps you may not be aware of the old saying " short cuts will cut you short " and that Astrology in particular does not always work on mathematical lines alone and that is what makes it complicated and the reason all the scientist of the world declare that it is not science at all. > > What you want to believe or not to believe is not my up to me. You asked for traditional method and I gave you just that. > > What is this sub sub word you & Kp are using ? doesn't it have a traditional nomenclature? Try using that nomenclature and you will find that you are standing on traditional ground. > > Nakshtradhipathy > Rashyadhipathy > Navamsadhipathy > Dwadasamsadhipathy > > and so on.... > > It is mandatory to spell the name of Rishi, its devatha, its chandas when one starts japa of a mantra. This is to remember who devised that mantra and to declare that It was not created by " me " and to lay the credits where it rightfully belongs. > > This is Indian Tradition. > > And what Krishna Moorthy nor his followers seems be to doing. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> > > Tue, October 20, 2009 8:26:02 AM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > Respected Sri Prashant Kumar Pandey Ji,Sadar Namasthe,I asked birth time rectification method because so many people were asking me their correct birth time.I knew one method and I wanted to check my own method with traditional astrological method.But I found that method suggested by Sri Suresh Ji ,Tripathi Ji & others are quite lengthy.Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method and Sri Tripathi Ji Suggested me to check the life events where as to analyse only date of marriage,birth of male and female baby,date of joining of service/Job is quite impossible.So date of events can't be checked by any one and in my opinion it is possible for Siddh yogis who have Paranormal Powers.To rectify birth time I check Sub lord and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant and Sub lord of Ascendant Must Match with Star lord of Moon and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant must match with Sub lord of Moon and to adjust this I have to work and add or subtract few seconds > or minutes from the given birth of native.I found this method applicable and correct in every case.Now a days I am adding this thing with my analysis if given birth time of native is incorrect.I am not well read person so I like 2*2=4 and I don't apply Coordinate Geometry or Calculus to rectify birth time.I hope that Very simple method suggested by me is quite correct and acceptable by classes and masses. > with thanks & best regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > > Mon, October 19, 2009 5:33:08 PM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > Dear Misra ji, > > I think the member asked for " traditional methods " not KP isnt it. > > u can add KP also after that and it is up to him/her to choose what they want. > > the cluse from Nashta jataka are many so the member must find it, test them > > Prashant > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> > > Cc: Sureshbabuag; Kerala_vedic_ astrlogy > Mon, October 19, 2009 7:51:23 AM > Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > Respected Sri Prasant Pandey Ji,Vattem Krishnan Ji,Gopu Ji,Suresh Babu Ji, & Seniors,Please tell me birth time rectification traditional astrology method with details if any.For example I know my incorrect birth time 8:15AM,POB-BASTI (U.P).DOB-20. 04..1959.It is very necessary for classes and masses. > with thanks & regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 respected direndra ji thank you very much.i believe that time u calculated must be true.plz also see if it can come before 4:30 am as that may be possible if not than what u have calcultated must be true. thanking u again. karuna ________________________________ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra Wed, October 28, 2009 10:30:33 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification Dear Karuna Ji,You have sent me mail as under and delayed reply is also under your mail:- respected dhirendra ji i am amazed by ur birth time rectification method plz help me to rectify birth time of my husband i will be very thankful to u his dob 17 oct 1980 place of birth jalandhar/jullundha r time is between 4:30 am to 4:45 am actually nobody noticed the exact time so plz help. thanking you karunaPlease note it that if I use Lahiri Ayanamsa then rectified time of your husband comes 05:06:16AM and at that time only Sub lord of ascendant is Moon and Sub lord of Moon itself is Moon and Sub Sub lord of ascendant is found Sun and Star lord is also found Sun and again this Sun is significator of 1St cusp.This rectified time comes after your range of time.It is correct as it is with in 30 minutes of your given time 4:45AM. With good wishes, Dhirendra Nath Misra ____________ _________ _________ __ Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag@ > Wed, October 28, 2009 9:00:42 PM Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method Dear Karan Kumari, I feel the correct time of birth is 4:43:00 AM. This is as per Chitra Paksha Ayanamsa (Lahiri). Between the time gap you had mentioned 4:25 to 4:45, there could be three timmings 4:23:00AM. 4:36:00AM and 4:43:00AM, Out of these, I tend to select 4:43:00AM as the correct time. There could be few seconds upto 27sec which is immaterial for general use. The logic & reasoning is very complex & elaborate. However, As shree krishna ji has stated, it doesn't matter much in practical astrology. Ultimately it all boils down to real life, grace of god. I hope this helps you. , Karan Kumari <architakhera@ ...> wrote: > > respected vattem ji > i respect your thoughts but here something of urgent importance is needed. > he has tried to commit suicide twice and as a wife nobody can understand what > i am going through.acc to many his right time is required i even gave money > to rectify his time on net but the person cheated.so plz forgive if any mistake > i have done. > vattem ji u have always helped and solved my problems in many ways plz > if u do not mind i like to donate one beautiful shaligram shila to u .if u believe > or trust in LORD HARI plz let me know as it can ge given only to vaishanv. > thank you > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> > > Sun, October 25, 2009 12:17:38 PM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > Hello Archita Ji, > I have seen you taking keen interest in jyotish for the past couple of moths.By this time analysis/prediction s got for you and for ther known people to you must have some comprehensive idea of Astrology. > we know in Jyotish,there are different apparoches and each one as per his interst puruses Jyotish and talk sevral things. > In fact when you want to really test the accuarcy of dates of birth it is really difficult to say how much accuarates it is. > As jyotish.Astrologer it is necessary that details are correct to the extent mentioned through his own method with reference to the issue raise. > None of present Astrologer cast horoscopes and give analysis .All of us use softwares and each softwres has it's own whether in ayanamsa or some other calculation of dasa itself. having definete influnce on results/events in life. > By going for rectification or so called accurate time of birth does not really serve any great purpose.It is therfore good to stick to accpeted methods of mother informing/recording birth time or others noting it and making it official.Might also be knowing even Obama; time of birth is also not the one as on official records.But no body suggested /worked out but made predictions based on declared time.The mothod necessitating for corrections is only a waywordness. After accurate birth time no body can dictate the kind of events/happens that can occur/take place. > Late Shri B.V.Raman specifically mentions invariably " except creator Brahma can say eith certainity what will definetely happen.? > Please be methodical and try to increase/enhance Astrological awareness only byperforming yourself and leaving the results to Almighty. > In any case please read Chapter xxxviii of Hindu Predictive AStrology to know when and how the necesity for birth time rectification is needed. > Also we have a group of Timing of Events following KAS also check timing of birth and give prediction. > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > wrote: > > Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 1:42 PM > > > > respected suresh ji > plz take your time but plz do reply when u free to give ur precious time. i am posting > his birth details if any more details needed plz inform. > his dob 17 oct 1980 > place is jullundhar/jalandha r > time is 4:25 to 4:45 am > thank you very much > karuna > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > > > Sat, October 24, 2009 11:02:34 PM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > Dear Karan, > > I shall try to do it. pls give me some time & post the details. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > > > Sat, October 24, 2009 1:30:17 PM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > suresh ji i again request to reply. > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > > > Fri, October 23, 2009 11:12:40 PM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > suresh ji can u plz do birth time correction of my huasband i request u with my hands joined.plz > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > > > Tue, October 20, 2009 10:20:50 AM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > Dear Dhirendranath Ji, > > //Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method // > > What do you find " philisophical " in " my " method? > > And does what " Shri Suresh ji " believes really matters?. > > Any sane Astrologer will cross check any aspect to confirm factors just like any other science and that is exactly what is meant by elaboration and again mentioned by Shri Mrityunjay Tripaty also. > > Perhaps you may not be aware of the old saying " short cuts will cut you short " and that Astrology in particular does not always work on mathematical lines alone and that is what makes it complicated and the reason all the scientist of the world declare that it is not science at all. > > What you want to believe or not to believe is not my up to me. You asked for traditional method and I gave you just that. > > What is this sub sub word you & Kp are using ? doesn't it have a traditional nomenclature? Try using that nomenclature and you will find that you are standing on traditional ground. > > Nakshtradhipathy > Rashyadhipathy > Navamsadhipathy > Dwadasamsadhipathy > > and so on.... > > It is mandatory to spell the name of Rishi, its devatha, its chandas when one starts japa of a mantra. This is to remember who devised that mantra and to declare that It was not created by " me " and to lay the credits where it rightfully belongs. > > This is Indian Tradition. > > And what Krishna Moorthy nor his followers seems be to doing. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> > > Tue, October 20, 2009 8:26:02 AM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > Respected Sri Prashant Kumar Pandey Ji,Sadar Namasthe,I asked birth time rectification method because so many people were asking me their correct birth time.I knew one method and I wanted to check my own method with traditional astrological method.But I found that method suggested by Sri Suresh Ji ,Tripathi Ji & others are quite lengthy.Sri Suresh Ji believes in elaborated and philosophical method and Sri Tripathi Ji Suggested me to check the life events where as to analyse only date of marriage,birth of male and female baby,date of joining of service/Job is quite impossible.So date of events can't be checked by any one and in my opinion it is possible for Siddh yogis who have Paranormal Powers.To rectify birth time I check Sub lord and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant and Sub lord of Ascendant Must Match with Star lord of Moon and Sub-Sub lord of Ascendant must match with Sub lord of Moon and to adjust this I have to work and add or subtract few seconds > or minutes from the given birth of native.I found this method applicable and correct in every case.Now a days I am adding this thing with my analysis if given birth time of native is incorrect.I am not well read person so I like 2*2=4 and I don't apply Coordinate Geometry or Calculus to rectify birth time.I hope that Very simple method suggested by me is quite correct and acceptable by classes and masses. > with thanks & best regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > > Mon, October 19, 2009 5:33:08 PM > Re: Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > > Dear Misra ji, > > I think the member asked for " traditional methods " not KP isnt it. > > u can add KP also after that and it is up to him/her to choose what they want. > > the cluse from Nashta jataka are many so the member must find it, test them > > Prashant > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> > > Cc: Sureshbabuag; Kerala_vedic_ astrlogy > Mon, October 19, 2009 7:51:23 AM > Please tell me birth time rectification traditional method > > Respected Sri Prasant Pandey Ji,Vattem Krishnan Ji,Gopu Ji,Suresh Babu Ji, & Seniors,Please tell me birth time rectification traditional astrology method with details if any.For example I know my incorrect birth time 8:15AM,POB-BASTI (U.P).DOB-20. 04..1959.It is very necessary for classes and masses. > with thanks & regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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