Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Dear Friends, I am forwarding following two mails which group members may find intresting  Dear Goel ji,  That was an excellent mail - many points well said. Vara: //These are named based on seven planets . the order of days is > based on 24 horas and motion of planets .This system was adopted > and followed all over the world , but I am not aware , since when this system was > put to use.//   It is well sure that the system was in use from the Vedic period itself, evident from the fact that even Atharva Vedanga Jyotisha mention and use them. Nakshatra: //There are many nakshatra dasas, in which nakshatra's are assigned to different planets (unlike zodiacal sign which are ruled by planets and all savants agree on this). As such it is not correct to say that Acavini is ruled by Ketu or Pushya//  Well...correct to an extend. Due to the popularity of Visottari system, we assume Vimsottari rulership as default. Nityayoga: //But one thing is clear that there  is no direct ruler ship of planets on yogas and it will depend on reference to context ( as in the case of Nakshatras). Nakshatras and yogas do have their independent characterstics which are not directly influenced by planets.//  Well said - I agree. Tithi: //They are also not aligned > with planets or with zodiac signs. Their  link with planets again depend on the reference > and purpose.//   True. Karana: // The day is divided in a  day and night. In Vadic era , seers were following >   Diva and Ratri Karnas. Each Thithi has two karnas.As Karna represent two parts of the day , they are  controller of  the Karma//  Could be...we cannot be sure about this, since conclusive evidences are not available. //five limbs of Panchang (day) have their > independent CHARACTERISTICS AND MAY NOT BE DIRECTLY LINKED EITHER WITH SIGNS OR PLANETS.//  Well said - I agree. Love and regards, Sreenadh ancient_indian_ astrology, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > Many thanks for your clarifications. > I believe that Constituents of Panchang > do not have direct relationship with planets. >  > I am making the following observation , which are otherwise well > known , for your comments ans guidance: > 1. Vara's- These are named based on seven planets . the order of days is >    based on 24 horas and motion of planets .This system was adopted >   and followed all over the world , but I am not aware , since when this system was >   put to use. Now these week days are firmly linked with astrological Planets. >   The mean duration of one pair of day and night is 24 hours This laid the foundation >  of another four limbs of Panchang.It is not clear ,what methodology could have been adopted to fix the first day of the week after the name of planet Sun. >  > 2. Nakshatra- Once duration of a day ( here I DO NOT MEAN VARA'S)was fixed , obviously ancient seers adopted  27 Nakshatra(s) as Moon takes a round of the earth in 27.32 days . Varas are based on Sun which moves appr. one degree in about 24hrs, Moon moves about one Nakshatra in one day. In nirayana system , Acivani is presently considered  as 1st Nakashatra , but it is a matter of dispute till date. Even more so ,where  the zero point of 1st Nakshtra should be fixed on the zodiac( this is a open question  till date and still no unanimity is reached ) . It is not clear , in which era week days  were  adopted and Varas were firmly linked with planets . This is not the case with Nakshatras. There are many nakshatra dasas, in which nakshatra's are assigned to different planets (unlike zodiacal sign which are ruled by planets and all savants agree on this). As such it is not correct to say that Acavini is ruled by Ketu or Pushya > by Saturn etc. This depends on reference and context. > 3. Yogas - When the sum of  longitudes of Sun and Moon becomes zero or 360 >   degrees , 1st yoga starts which is named as Visva-kumbha . These are also 27 in >   number , as each yoga takes a period of about 24 hrs.Nakshatras have physical existence and represented by an arc in the sky , but this is not the case with yoga's. It looks that seers had  decided that each yoga will represent an arc of 13degree20' equivalent to Nakshatra. Some assign 1st yoga visvakumbha to Acivini and some to Pushya etc . But one thing is clear that there  is no direct ruler ship of planets on yogas and it will depend on reference to context ( as in the case of Nakshatras). Nakshatras and yogas do have their independent characterstics which are not directly influenced by planets. > 4. Tithis - When the difference in the longitude of Sun and Moon increases by 12 >  degrees , next tithi takes over . They are 30 in number. Again same principle is > adopted that a ththi takes about 24 hours to complete . They are also not aligned > with planets or with zodiac signs. Their  link with planets again depend on the reference > and purpose. > 5. Karna's- The day is divided in a  day and night. In Vadic era , seers were following >   Diva and Ratri Karnas. Each Thithi has two karnas.As Karna represent two parts of the day , they are  controller of  the Karma > The purpose of this narration is that five limbs of Panchang (day) have their > independent CHARACTERISTICS AND MAY NOT BE DIRECTLY LINKED EITHER WITH SIGNS OR PLANETS. > Regards, >   > G.K.GOEL > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog > ancient_indian_ astrology > Thursday, 23 October, 2008 10:26:46 AM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Understanding Nityayoga (Corrected) > > > Dear Goel ji, >  May be I should correct the following statement a bit - > // *  I don't use Nityayoga much in day to day prediction. So what ever I say about Nityayoga is based on theoretical understanding. // >  I should better state - " I don't use Nityayoga much in day to day Natal Chart (Jataka)prediction. So what ever I say about use of Nityayoga in Natal Chart (Jataka) prediction is based on theoretical understanding. But I definitely use Nityayoga in Prashna on a day to day basis. " >  The use of Nityayoga in Prashna is an entirely different system. I will try to elaborate it in another write-up. Of course, the Nityayoga rulers given earlier can be used not only in Jataka but also in Prashna since it is told that " Jatake yad yad uddishtam tat tat prashnepi chintayet " [what ever is told for Jataka can be applied (in its modified form) in Prashna as well] But to be sincere, I haven't seen anyone (except Sunil ji etc) as applying the Nityayoga rulership concept in Prashna. The true Kerala style of Nityayoga use in Prashna is an entirely different system that does not consider the Nityayoga rulers at all. > Love and regards, > Sreeandh >  > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Sreenadh " sreesog@ wrote: > > Re: Understanding Nityayoga > > Dear Goel ji, > //> What is your advise ? > > In day to day predictive purposes , ruler of Vishkumbh yoga > > should be taken as Ketu or Saturn.// >  *  I don't use Nityayoga much in day to day prediction. So what ever I say about Nityayoga is based on theoretical understanding. >  * But if have to then -  based on my theoretical understanding, since I could see that assigning the rulership of  Vishkambha Nityayoga to Ketus is in tune with the Nirayana astrological tradition, I will go for that. (But I know that the Nadi tradition of ascribing the the rulership of Vishkambha to Saturn is a proven one, I will use this system, provided I am considering tropical longitudes as well as suggested by this system) > //> Till now 1st yoga is assumed to commence from Pushya Nakshatra.// >  If the above statement is just about the rulership alone, then I will agree. Why because, Pushya-Anuradha- UttaraBhadrapada is the Saturn triad, and it is the first Nityayoga triad (since equinox is is Uttara Bhadrapada). The rulership is more important to us, than where the equinox is and thus the first Nakshatra in the above triad is Pushya (and not Uttara Bhadrapada). So we can start couting from Pushya and say that the Vishkambha-Ganda- Paridhi triad belongs to Saturn. The correct statement would be Vishkambha (Uttara Bhadrapada)- Ganda (Anuradha)-Paridhi (Pushya) triad belongs to saturn as per the Sayana Nadi Tradition of Nityayoga calculation. But if we are interested in finding the ruler alone, the accuracy of statement is not much important. >   But if you want to say that, the 1st Nityayoga i.e. Vishkambha Nityayoga corresponds to Pushya Nakshatra - then I will disagree. I am yet to see any reference that states the same. I am yet to see any valid logic that points to such a total change of moving the first point to Pushya. There ware only two first points as per tradition in Indian astrology - for Sayana tradition it was always vernal equinox; for Nirayana tradition it was always Asvinyadi. Moving the 1st Nityayoga to Pushya does not tally with any of these traditions and cannot be accepted, I would say. (At least I cannot accept it, till I find a valid referece, if at all available) . > //> Yoga is formed with the addition of Sun (Atman ) and Moon( Manaha). > > Jeeva , represented by Jupiter , is supposed to have born in Pusya Nakshatra. > > This is the reason 1st yoga¦nbsp; supposed to commence with Pushya.// >  We can find numerous such partially fulfilling logics - that cannot stay for long. The unanswerable questions would be - >  1) What is your reference for the above statement? Does any astrological classics states so? >  2) Why the 2nd Nityayoga i.e. Preeti Nityayoga should be ascribed to Aslesha Nakshatra? >  and so on > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Gopal Goel gkgoel1937@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadh , > > What is your advise ? > > In day to day predictive purposes , ruler of Vishkumbh yoga > > should be taken as Ketu or Saturn. > > Till now 1st yoga is assumed to commence from Pushya Nakshatra. > > Yoga is formed with the addition of Sun (Atman ) and Moon( Manaha). > > Jeeva , represented by Jupiter , is supposed to have born in Pusya Nakshatra. > > This is the reason 1st yoga¦nbsp; supposed to commence with Pushya. > > ¦nbsp; > > Your guidance will be valuable. > > Regards, > > > > ¦nbsp; > > G.K.GOEL > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Sreenadh " sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Goel ji, > > What you are referring to is the tradition given as " Tropical > > Nityayoga List (As per Nadi tradition) " given at the end of the article. > > Please note that, the reason for such a method to calculate the > > planetary ownership was - The loadship of the trine > > 'Pushya-Anuradha- UttaraBhadrapada is assigned to Saturn as per Nadi > > tradition. > > It is NOT necessory to add 24 twice etc since what we are considering > > is the time taken for the equinox to move from Rohini to Uttara > > Bhadrapada. (Neither Sun nor Moon is under consideration) . > > Love and regards, > > Sreenadh > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Gopal Goel > > gkgoel1937@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh, > > > As per present tradition , 1st Nirayan yoga Viskumbha commences > > > from Nakshara Pushya and not from Asvini. > > > You have taken to calculate the Era of Vashitha Shiddhanta > > > from the equation of 24+13.20+13. 20+13.20 . As Tropical longitude > > > of two planets Sun and Moon are being considered , Ayanamsa Value of > > > 24 should be taken two times and not once only. > > > I will be grateful to get your clarification. > > > Regards, > > > G . K. GOEL > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/ > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger./?wm=n/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Dear Friends, I am forwarding following two mails which group members may find intresting Dear Goel ji, That was an excellent mail - many points well said. :)Vara://These are named based on seven planets . the order of days is > based on 24 horas and motion of planets .This system was adopted> and followed all over the world , but I am not aware , since when this system was> put to use.// It is well sure that the system was in use from the Vedic period itself, evident from the fact that even Atharva Vedanga Jyotisha mention and use them.Nakshatra://There are many nakshatra dasas, in which nakshatra's are assigned to different planets (unlike zodiacal sign which are ruled by planets and all savants agree on this). As such it is not correct to say that Acavini is ruled by Ketu or Pushya// Well...correct to an extend. Due to the popularity of Visottari system, we assume Vimsottari rulership as default. Nityayoga://But one thing is clear that there  is no direct ruler ship of planets on yogas and it will depend on reference to context ( as in the case of Nakshatras). Nakshatras and yogas do have their independent characterstics which are not directly influenced by planets.// Well said - I agree. Tithi://They are also not aligned> with planets or with zodiac signs. Their  link with planets again depend on the reference> and purpose.// True.Karana:// The day is divided in a  day and night. In Vadic era , seers were following >   Diva and Ratri Karnas. Each Thithi has two karnas.As Karna represent two parts of the day , they are  controller of  the Karma// Could be...we cannot be sure about this, since conclusive evidences are not available.//five limbs of Panchang (day) have their > independent CHARACTERISTICS AND MAY NOT BE DIRECTLY LINKED EITHER WITH SIGNS OR PLANETS.// Well said - I agree.Love and regards,Sreenadh ancient_indian_ astrology, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh ji,> Many thanks for your clarifications.> I believe that Constituents of Panchang > do not have direct relationship with planets.>  > I am making the following observation , which are otherwise well > known , for your comments ans guidance:> 1. Vara's- These are named based on seven planets . the order of days is >    based on 24 horas and motion of planets .This system was adopted>   and followed all over the world , but I am not aware , since when this system was>   put to use. Now these week days are firmly linked with astrological Planets.>   The mean duration of one pair of day and night is 24 hours This laid the foundation>  of another four limbs of Panchang.It is not clear ,what methodology could have been adopted to fix the first day of the week after the name of planet Sun.>  > 2. Nakshatra- Once duration of a day ( here I DO NOT MEAN VARA'S)was fixed , obviously ancient seers adopted  27 Nakshatra(s) as Moon takes a round of the earth in 27.32 days . Varas are based on Sun which moves appr. one degree in about 24hrs, Moon moves about one Nakshatra in one day. In nirayana system , Acivani is presently considered  as 1st Nakashatra , but it is a matter of dispute till date. Even more so ,where  the zero point of 1st Nakshtra should be fixed on the zodiac( this is a open question  till date and still no unanimity is reached ) . It is not clear , in which era week days  were  adopted and Varas were firmly linked with planets . This is not the case with Nakshatras. There are many nakshatra dasas, in which nakshatra's are assigned to different planets (unlike zodiacal sign which are ruled by planets and all savants agree on this). As such it is not correct to say that Acavini is ruled by Ketu or Pushya> by Saturn etc. This depends on reference and context.> 3. Yogas - When the sum of  longitudes of Sun and Moon becomes zero or 360 >   degrees , 1st yoga starts which is named as Visva-kumbha . These are also 27 in>   number , as each yoga takes a period of about 24 hrs.Nakshatras have physical existence and represented by an arc in the sky , but this is not the case with yoga's. It looks that seers had  decided that each yoga will represent an arc of 13degree20' equivalent to Nakshatra. Some assign 1st yoga visvakumbha to Acivini and some to Pushya etc . But one thing is clear that there  is no direct ruler ship of planets on yogas and it will depend on reference to context ( as in the case of Nakshatras). Nakshatras and yogas do have their independent characterstics which are not directly influenced by planets.> 4. Tithis - When the difference in the longitude of Sun and Moon increases by 12 >  degrees , next tithi takes over . They are 30 in number. Again same principle is> adopted that a ththi takes about 24 hours to complete . They are also not aligned> with planets or with zodiac signs. Their  link with planets again depend on the reference> and purpose.> 5. Karna's- The day is divided in a  day and night. In Vadic era , seers were following >   Diva and Ratri Karnas. Each Thithi has two karnas.As Karna represent two parts of the day , they are  controller of  the Karma> The purpose of this narration is that five limbs of Panchang (day) have their > independent CHARACTERISTICS AND MAY NOT BE DIRECTLY LINKED EITHER WITH SIGNS OR PLANETS.> Regards,>   > G.K.GOEL> > > > > Sreenadh sreesog ancient_indian_ astrology> Thursday, 23 October, 2008 10:26:46 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Understanding Nityayoga (Corrected)> > > Dear Goel ji, >  May be I should correct the following statement a bit -> // *  I don't use Nityayoga much in day to day prediction. So what ever I say about Nityayoga is based on theoretical understanding. //>  I should better state - "I don't use Nityayoga much in day to day Natal Chart (Jataka)prediction. So what ever I say about use of Nityayoga in Natal Chart (Jataka) prediction is based on theoretical understanding. But I definitely use Nityayoga in Prashna on a day to day basis." >  The use of Nityayoga in Prashna is an entirely different system. I will try to elaborate it in another write-up. Of course, the Nityayoga rulers given earlier can be used not only in Jataka but also in Prashna since it is told that "Jatake yad yad uddishtam tat tat prashnepi chintayet" [what ever is told for Jataka can be applied (in its modified form) in Prashna as well] But to be sincere, I haven't seen anyone (except Sunil ji etc) as applying the Nityayoga rulership concept in Prashna. The true Kerala style of Nityayoga use in Prashna is an entirely different system that does not consider the Nityayoga rulers at all. > Love and regards,> Sreeandh>  > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sreenadh" sreesog@ wrote:> > Re: Understanding Nityayoga > > Dear Goel ji, > //> What is your advise ?> > In day to day predictive purposes , ruler of Vishkumbh yoga> > should be taken as Ketu or Saturn.//>  *  I don't use Nityayoga much in day to day prediction. So what ever I say about Nityayoga is based on theoretical understanding.>  * But if have to then -  based on my theoretical understanding, since I could see that assigning the rulership of  Vishkambha Nityayoga to Ketus is in tune with the Nirayana astrological tradition, I will go for that. (But I know that the Nadi tradition of ascribing the the rulership of Vishkambha to Saturn is a proven one, I will use this system, provided I am considering tropical longitudes as well as suggested by this system) > //> Till now 1st yoga is assumed to commence from Pushya Nakshatra.//>  If the above statement is just about the rulership alone, then I will agree. Why because, Pushya-Anuradha- UttaraBhadrapada is the Saturn triad, and it is the first Nityayoga triad (since equinox is is Uttara Bhadrapada). The rulership is more important to us, than where the equinox is and thus the first Nakshatra in the above triad is Pushya (and not Uttara Bhadrapada). So we can start couting from Pushya and say that the Vishkambha-Ganda- Paridhi triad belongs to Saturn. The correct statement would be Vishkambha (Uttara Bhadrapada)- Ganda (Anuradha)-Paridhi (Pushya) triad belongs to saturn as per the Sayana Nadi Tradition of Nityayoga calculation. But if we are interested in finding the ruler alone, the accuracy of statement is not much important. >   But if you want to say that, the 1st Nityayoga i.e. Vishkambha Nityayoga corresponds to Pushya Nakshatra - then I will disagree. I am yet to see any reference that states the same. I am yet to see any valid logic that points to such a total change of moving the first point to Pushya. There ware only two first points as per tradition in Indian astrology - for Sayana tradition it was always vernal equinox; for Nirayana tradition it was always Asvinyadi. Moving the 1st Nityayoga to Pushya does not tally with any of these traditions and cannot be accepted, I would say. (At least I cannot accept it, till I find a valid referece, if at all available) . > //> Yoga is formed with the addition of Sun (Atman ) and Moon( Manaha).> > Jeeva , represented by Jupiter , is supposed to have born in Pusya Nakshatra.> > This is the reason 1st yoga¦nbsp; supposed to commence with Pushya.//>  We can find numerous such partially fulfilling logics - that cannot stay for long. The unanswerable questions would be ->  1) What is your reference for the above statement? Does any astrological classics states so?>  2) Why the 2nd Nityayoga i.e. Preeti Nityayoga should be ascribed to Aslesha Nakshatra? >  and so on> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Gopal Goel gkgoel1937@ ..> wrote:> >> > Dear Sreenadh ,> > What is your advise ?> > In day to day predictive purposes , ruler of Vishkumbh yoga> > should be taken as Ketu or Saturn.> > Till now 1st yoga is assumed to commence from Pushya Nakshatra.> > Yoga is formed with the addition of Sun (Atman ) and Moon( Manaha).> > Jeeva , represented by Jupiter , is supposed to have born in Pusya Nakshatra.> > This is the reason 1st yoga¦nbsp; supposed to commence with Pushya.> > ¦nbsp;> > Your guidance will be valuable.> > Regards,> > > > ¦nbsp;> > G.K.GOEL> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sreenadh" sreesog@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Goel ji,> > What you are referring to is the tradition given as " Tropical> > Nityayoga List (As per Nadi tradition)" given at the end of the article.> > Please note that, the reason for such a method to calculate the> > planetary ownership was - The loadship of the trine> > 'Pushya-Anuradha- UttaraBhadrapada is assigned to Saturn as per Nadi> > tradition.> > It is NOT necessory to add 24 twice etc since what we are considering> > is the time taken for the equinox to move from Rohini to Uttara> > Bhadrapada. (Neither Sun nor Moon is under consideration) .> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Gopal Goel> > gkgoel1937@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh,> > > As per present tradition , 1st Nirayan yoga Viskumbha commences> > > from Nakshara Pushya and not from Asvini.> > > You have taken to calculate the Era of Vashitha Shiddhanta> > > from the equation of 24+13.20+13. 20+13.20 . As Tropical longitude> > > of two planets Sun and Moon are being considered , Ayanamsa Value of> > > 24 should be taken two times and not once only.> > > I will be grateful to get your clarification.> > > Regards,> > > G . K. GOEL> >> > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009  || Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna Dear Friend, Prof KSK did not mention use of panchang element in Deciding good time for any activity but he demonstrated How to find lucky time as per KP for a Native for activities like submitting tender, shooting cinema ,starting treatment etc in Reader 5 page 185 to 219, By the way Swami omkar has taught about muhurta as per KP in his course but it also does not embrace panchang element. OM TATSATR.C.Srivastava.[Astrologer ] ------------------------" we meditate on the adorable effulgence of the lord who creats everything, so it may energize our consciousness."-- - kondapaneni suneel kpsystem Monday, January 19, 2009 5:20 PM panchang Dear Friends, We refer to panchang to decide on good time for starting on a work/travell/marriage/ect. my doubt on what about yoga/karana/thithi etc.importance as per kp... pls explain me importance of above on our life....reference to kp... suniel Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Dear Suneelji, First of all , you must allow the members to know what is Your own homework with regards to your query. That gives us a start to expand and share our own insights. Next, the Panchang also contains the one " ang " known as nakshatra in which moon is placed. How would you connect this nakshatra owner of the Moon in the daily Pannchang, to the planet which signifies in your chart, to what you are looking for, at a particular point of time ? For instance suppose Mercuy signifies marriage to you, then how would you connect this to the nakshatras in the chart. Or suppose Jupiter in Your chart signifies Long Voyage ( Foreign Journey ) in Your chart, then how would you connect this? Or suppose venus signifies the 6th Cusp - to receive payments ,then how would you connect ? I hope now I have given you a start instead. regards/Bhaskar. , kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma wrote: > > Dear Friends, > Â > We refer to panchang to decide on good time for starting on a work/travell/marriage/ect. > Â > my doubt on what about yoga/karana/thithi etc.importance as per kp... > pls explain me importance of above on our life....reference to kp... > Â > suniel > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Dear kundappaneni Panch is traditional astrology. Kp does not recognise Tithi, Yoga or Karana. Mr Kanak is writing a Book on Muhurtas according to KP methods. Only useful to strict users of KP, which ignores all, tithi,yoga and karana raichur anant mumbai --- On Mon, 19/1/09, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma wrote: kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma panchang"kpsystem" Monday, 19 January, 2009, 5:20 PM Dear Friends, We refer to panchang to decide on good time for starting on a work/travell/marriage/ect. my doubt on what about yoga/karana/thithi etc.importance as per kp... pls explain me importance of above on our life....reference to kp... suniel Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. __._,_..___ Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web ( ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Un Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 || Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna Dear friends, Excellent response From Sri Bhasker ji. Just to start beginners may like to read, grasp the concept of Nakshatra a part of panchang and try on charts as descibed in Reader V . Please refer page 150-156 of reader 5 { article added after Prof KSK and pblication of UTOH in 1983 edition } and trying concept on charts in hand . The effort made will lead to learning of basics of Muhurta to find lucky time as meant in KP. Vaar day is day lord of RP also a part of panchang.Highly used in KP . Thithi was used in KP in articles in A & A for progeny cases. karan & Yoga have not been used in KP so Far. OM TATSATR.C.Srivastava.[Astrologer ] ------------------------" we meditate on the adorable effulgence of the lord who creats everything, so it may energize our consciousness."-- - Bhaskar Monday, January 19, 2009 10:54 PM Re: panchang Dear Suneelji,First of all , you must allow the members to know what is Your ownhomework with regards to your query. That gives us a start to expand andshare our own insights.Next, the Panchang also contains the one " ang " known as nakshatra inwhich moon is placed. How would you connect this nakshatra owner of theMoon in the daily Pannchang, to the planet which signifies in yourchart, to what you are looking for, at a particular point of time ? Forinstance suppose Mercuy signifies marriage to you, then how would youconnect this to the nakshatras in the chart. Or suppose Jupiter in Yourchart signifies Long Voyage ( Foreign Journey ) in Your chart, then howwould you connect this? Or suppose venus signifies the 6th Cusp - toreceive payments ,then how would you connect ?I hope now I have given you a start instead.regards/Bhaskar. , kondapaneni suneel<ksuneel_dhamma wrote:>> Dear Friends,> Â> We refer to panchang to decide on good time for starting on awork/travell/marriage/ect.> Â> my doubt on what about yoga/karana/thithi etc.importance as per kp...> pls explain me importance of above on our life....reference to kp...> Â> suniel>>> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, onhttp://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Dear Sir I am changing house and decided to shift on 6th February 2009 between 9 am to 10-30 Pm as Pisces rises with Venus in lagna , Mars,Sun,Rahu and Jupiter in the 11th, Mercury in the 10th and Saturn in the 6th in retrigrade and the Moon at 4th Gemini. May i get the timings for the best muhurtha. Thanking you all in advance Sahhasra Saagara--- On Tue, 20/1/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: Raichur-a-r <raichurarRe: panchang , "kondapaneni suneel" <ksuneel_dhammaTuesday, 20 January, 2009, 11:30 AM Dear kundappaneni Panch is traditional astrology. Kp does not recognise Tithi, Yoga or Karana. Mr Kanak is writing a Book on Muhurtas according to KP methods. Only useful to strict users of KP, which ignores all, tithi,yoga and karana raichur anant mumbai --- On Mon, 19/1/09, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > wrote: kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > panchang"kpsystem" <@gro ups.com>Monday, 19 January, 2009, 5:20 PM Dear Friends, We refer to panchang to decide on good time for starting on a work/travell/ marriage/ ect. my doubt on what about yoga/karana/ thithi etc.importance as per kp... pls explain me importance of above on our life....reference to kp... suniel Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. __._,_..___ Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web ( ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Un Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Dear Friends Will muhurtha helps prosperity when running dasha bhukti antara is differ in natal chart. or the muhurtha is nothing but co incidence. In case of many Swearing in ceromany events happened as per their natal charts dasha periods. Recently HD Kumaraswamy's fate turned to become Chief Minister of Karnataka as per Horary chart and when i compared it with his natal chart events proved with dasha periods of Natal and Horay. He was took oath as per guidelines of Astrologers. Though i got succeed in remedial measure through Mirrorology, a unique method of remedial measure for defected vastu , i still believe that it must be related to their natal charts. Sahhasra Saagara--- On Tue, 20/1/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: Raichur-a-r <raichurarRe: panchang , "kondapaneni suneel" <ksuneel_dhammaTuesday, 20 January, 2009, 11:30 AM Dear kundappaneni Panch is traditional astrology. Kp does not recognise Tithi, Yoga or Karana. Mr Kanak is writing a Book on Muhurtas according to KP methods. Only useful to strict users of KP, which ignores all, tithi,yoga and karana raichur anant mumbai --- On Mon, 19/1/09, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > wrote: kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > panchang"kpsystem" <@gro ups.com>Monday, 19 January, 2009, 5:20 PM Dear Friends, We refer to panchang to decide on good time for starting on a work/travell/ marriage/ ect. my doubt on what about yoga/karana/ thithi etc.importance as per kp... pls explain me importance of above on our life....reference to kp... suniel Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. __._,_..___ Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web ( ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Un Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Dear Swami You are right Prof.KSK has dealt with muhutha with very few points and he dint gave major prominance for the muhurtha i feel. He had tried the auspicious moments as per his natal charts, mostly while testing playing cards i read either in astrology and athrishta . Mr.PVR Narasimha rao predicted the entry of Chiranjeevi in to politics in 2000 itself based on the natal chart. I had predicted the exact date of resignation of S.Bangarappa's resignation for the CM of Karnataka post on 11th November 1992.Both as per Natal and Horary. Note: Muhurtha though good in many aspects but one single negative aspect must be in the same, for example on 6th February 2009 at 9 am all points will be good but Venus though forms Malavya yoga but signifies 3,6,8,1 and 12th through stellar and sub means in Venus bhukti/antara/sookshma/prana/deha periods danger to longivity, loss , hospitalisation ill-health .More over 10th cusp sub lord too Venus means Venus period is under nagative . Sahhasra Saagara--- On Mon, 19/1/09, swami <swami wrote: swami <swamiRe: panchang Date: Monday, 19 January, 2009, 9:59 PM  || Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna Dear Friend, Prof KSK did not mention use of panchang element in Deciding good time for any activity but he demonstrated How to find lucky time as per KP for a Native for activities like submitting tender, shooting cinema ,starting treatment etc in Reader 5 page 185 to 219, By the way Swami omkar has taught about muhurta as per KP in his course but it also does not embrace panchang element. OM TATSATR.C.Srivastava. [Astrologer ] ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------" we meditate on the adorable effulgence of the lord who creats everything, so it may energize our consciousness. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- - kondapaneni suneel kpsystem Monday, January 19, 2009 5:20 PM panchang Dear Friends, We refer to panchang to decide on good time for starting on a work/travell/ marriage/ ect. my doubt on what about yoga/karana/ thithi etc.importance as per kp... pls explain me importance of above on our life....reference to kp... suniel Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Dear Saagar Sir, Namasthe. Will you kindly let me know where is the house to be occupied is located, I mean which town or city? I feel Venus in lagna shall not be auspecious. Any way I cannot advise you on this mater but I want to have an excercise. Kindly reply if you have no objection. Thanking you. Dr. Luther Rath Sagar S <ssagar86 Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:16:56 PMRe: panchang Dear Swami You are right Prof.KSK has dealt with muhutha with very few points and he dint gave major prominance for the muhurtha i feel. He had tried the auspicious moments as per his natal charts, mostly while testing playing cards i read either in astrology and athrishta . Mr.PVR Narasimha rao predicted the entry of Chiranjeevi in to politics in 2000 itself based on the natal chart. I had predicted the exact date of resignation of S.Bangarappa' s resignation for the CM of Karnataka post on 11th November 1992.Both as per Natal and Horary.. Note: Muhurtha though good in many aspects but one single negative aspect must be in the same, for example on 6th February 2009 at 9 am all points will be good but Venus though forms Malavya yoga but signifies 3,6,8,1 and 12th through stellar and sub means in Venus bhukti/antara/ sookshma/ prana/deha periods danger to longivity, loss , hospitalisation ill-health .More over 10th cusp sub lord too Venus means Venus period is under nagative . Sahhasra Saagara--- On Mon, 19/1/09, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>Re: panchang@gro ups.comMonday, 19 January, 2009, 9:59 PM  || Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna Dear Friend, Prof KSK did not mention use of panchang element in Deciding good time for any activity but he demonstrated How to find lucky time as per KP for a Native for activities like submitting tender, shooting cinema ,starting treatment etc in Reader 5 page 185 to 219, By the way Swami omkar has taught about muhurta as per KP in his course but it also does not embrace panchang element. OM TATSATR.C.Srivastava. [Astrologer ] ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------" we meditate on the adorable effulgence of the lord who creats everything, so it may energize our consciousness. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- - kondapaneni suneel kpsystem Monday, January 19, 2009 5:20 PM panchang Dear Friends, We refer to panchang to decide on good time for starting on a work/travell/ marriage/ ect. my doubt on what about yoga/karana/ thithi etc.importance as per kp... pls explain me importance of above on our life....reference to kp... suniel Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 How to use the KP Panchang for self benefit- Apart from the uses of the planetary positions etc.for predictive purposes, one can also enjoy referring the Panchang in this manner with reference to ones own individual chart. 1) Note the occupants in the 2nd,6th and 11th Cusp in your chart. 2) Note the planets placed in the constellations of these occupants. 3) Note the significators of these Cusps. Whenever you receive some payment by form of cash, or in kind, note down the time and date of receipt of same immediately. In fact put down the configurations also simultaneously about the planets in which stars and subLords, including the Moon. This will save you trouble later, having to write too much of stuff at a time. And it also helps in continous study, because whenever you note down next time, you can always glance at the previous recordings and do a quick study. Do this for next 6 months. Then check the Panchang and note what pattern emerges with the various times of receiving payments and the configurations present in the Panchang on those dates and time, with reference to what notes you have prepared earlier, for your own chart significations. You will be surprised to find certain logical patterns emerging from your past 6 months, which if you can catch, then you can make use of the same in future too, to execute certain important deals or actions related to finance. This can be done by observing the future transits of planets in various Raashis and constellations and match them with what patterns you have drawn from your study above. The same can be done for the other Cusps too if you are interested in recording of non-benefic occurences in your Life. One may try to form patterns with the weekly activities one indulges in, like going to a restaurant, having physical union with his wife, visiting a cinema hall, some happiness derived from some indulgement in various froms of activities. The purpose here is not to use astrology for petty activities, but learn from the patterns emerging, and the repetitions of certain configurations occuring when certain activities are commenced. I can only help till here. Rest has to be experienced. regards, Bhaskar. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Suneelji,> > First of all , you must allow the members to know what is Your own> homework with regards to your query. That gives us a start to expand and> share our own insights.> > Next, the Panchang also contains the one " ang " known as nakshatra in> which moon is placed. How would you connect this nakshatra owner of the> Moon in the daily Pannchang, to the planet which signifies in your> chart, to what you are looking for, at a particular point of time ? For> instance suppose Mercuy signifies marriage to you, then how would you> connect this to the nakshatras in the chart. Or suppose Jupiter in Your> chart signifies Long Voyage ( Foreign Journey ) in Your chart, then how> would you connect this? Or suppose venus signifies the 6th Cusp - to> receive payments ,then how would you connect ?> > I hope now I have given you a start instead.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > , kondapaneni suneel> ksuneel_dhamma@ wrote:> >> > Dear Friends,> > Â> > We refer to panchang to decide on good time for starting on a> work/travell/marriage/ect.> > Â> > my doubt on what about yoga/karana/thithi etc.importance as per kp...> > pls explain me importance of above on our life....reference to kp...> > Â> > suniel> >> >> > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on> http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Sir, Simply this is great presentation...thank you... suniel--- On Wed, 21/1/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: panchang Date: Wednesday, 21 January, 2009, 12:21 PM How to use the KP Panchang for self benefit- Apart from the uses of the planetary positions etc.for predictive purposes, one can also enjoy referring the Panchang in this manner with reference to ones own individual chart. 1) Note the occupants in the 2nd,6th and 11th Cusp in your chart. 2) Note the planets placed in the constellations of these occupants. 3) Note the significators of these Cusps. Whenever you receive some payment by form of cash, or in kind, note down the time and date of receipt of same immediately. In fact put down the configurations also simultaneously about the planets in which stars and subLords, including the Moon. This will save you trouble later, having to write too much of stuff at a time. And it also helps in continous study, because whenever you note down next time, you can always glance at the previous recordings and do a quick study. Do this for next 6 months. Then check the Panchang and note what pattern emerges with the various times of receiving payments and the configurations present in the Panchang on those dates and time, with reference to what notes you have prepared earlier, for your own chart significations.. You will be surprised to find certain logical patterns emerging from your past 6 months, which if you can catch, then you can make use of the same in future too, to execute certain important deals or actions related to finance. This can be done by observing the future transits of planets in various Raashis and constellations and match them with what patterns you have drawn from your study above. The same can be done for the other Cusps too if you are interested in recording of non-benefic occurences in your Life. One may try to form patterns with the weekly activities one indulges in, like going to a restaurant, having physical union with his wife, visiting a cinema hall, some happiness derived from some indulgement in various froms of activities. The purpose here is not to use astrology for petty activities, but learn from the patterns emerging, and the repetitions of certain configurations occuring when certain activities are commenced. I can only help till here. Rest has to be experienced. regards, Bhaskar. @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Suneelji,> > First of all , you must allow the members to know what is Your own> homework with regards to your query. That gives us a start to expand and> share our own insights.> > Next, the Panchang also contains the one " ang " known as nakshatra in> which moon is placed. How would you connect this nakshatra owner of the> Moon in the daily Pannchang, to the planet which signifies in your> chart, to what you are looking for, at a particular point of time ? For> instance suppose Mercuy signifies marriage to you, then how would you> connect this to the nakshatras in the chart. Or suppose Jupiter in Your> chart signifies Long Voyage ( Foreign Journey ) in Your chart, then how> would you connect this? Or suppose venus signifies the 6th Cusp - to> receive payments ,then how would you connect ?> > I hope now I have given you a start instead.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > @gro ups.com, kondapaneni suneel> ksuneel_dhamma@ wrote:> >> > Dear Friends,> > Â> > We refer to panchang to decide on good time for starting on a> work/travell/ marriage/ ect.> > Â> > my doubt on what about yoga/karana/ thithi etc.importance as per kp...> > pls explain me importance of above on our life....reference to kp...> > Â> > suniel> >> >> > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on> http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/> >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 dear sir, i need panchang making software or method of making panchang. will you help me ? waiting 4 your positive reply. thanks. -Ujas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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