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Dear Member,

 

I am approving this msg and not the one one Suresh Babu ji it is stretched too

far, but will add ur views briefly here.

this is surely a democratic forum and we gave never banned, thrown out ppl at

the drop of a hat.

 

We have tried to reason out with erring members and given them enough rope

unlike many other places where one mistake isa good bye. no chance to even

explain even if ur wronged and u just responded as a human can be equally hot

or whatever. I have experienced this myself so can tell the improtance of a good

feedback even critism if we r wrong, life is about lerarning and lear we wil

eternally else we r a all dead to say it is over.

 

COMING TO UR ISSUES

 

I HAVE ALSO RAISED ur ID issue CODE

and said ppl who have a proper name attract more attn easy to address a person

than a sound or code, number....

 

the name attracts some viberations and also reponses many do use fake names,

ID's too so wil their replies be as devoid of self-confidence, self-esteem they

r starting on a weak platform

 

there may be situations when they need to be private or use a proxy for a start

once some of them find comfort do come in the open be it in the forum or to a

member or two of their comfort level paid or free.

 

now UR observations on Suresh babu are more disrespectful than he had for u if

at all I am sure he did not mean to hurt or insult u but to drive it hard to

identify urself [it can be possibly be BETTER worded no doubt] if this was the

1st or 2nd mail of urs but as said there r 21 references to ur ID on a search

and many r thanking fellow astrologers so U GOT more than Naina so a comparison

was not right.

 

also as said Nania be it a real name or assumed name is clear toidentify than

ambiguous word like CODECODE.

 

if for some reason u want to hide ur presence it is too frivolous as we may not

know u anyway but from whom u r avoid ur presence they can identify u, ur data

isn't it and with IP address giving the location even the address from where u

sent a mail possible today they can satisfy themselves

 

we r not in such a race

 

HELP US HELP U- come with clear open information more info u give/share the

better u will see just look at today's post by Mr Anupam ID Elna Barman]

 

U CAN SEE HE WILL GET BETTER RESPONSES THAN OTHERS

 

and pl do understand astrologers r here doing a thankless, free reading jobs

MOSTLY when they can do a lot more of commercial work at home, and to spend

times in many forums we need the co-operation and curtsy, info in right order

 

so u wilL be here till u want to unless it goes too far.

 

Prashant

Moderator JR

 

 

 

, Code Code <codecode wrote:

>

> Once again many thanks for your reply.

>

> And yes I agree with your statement " Negative feelings come up only if taken

in personal way " .

>

> I admire your approach of maturity and understandin Sir, your comments are

re-enforcing in astro-essences.

>

> Regards

> C

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

>

> Wed, 11 November, 2009 7:05:14

> Re: please help

>

>  

> Dear Mr Code,

> Infcat you are also special as we have positive views from mebers like you.The

Group considers such comments from members as positive as it helps in to look

into short comings if any.Negative feelings come up only if taken in personal

way. 

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

>  

>

> --- On Tue, 11/10/09, Code Code <codecode (AT) ymail (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> Code Code <codecode (AT) ymail (DOT) com>

> Re: please help

>

> Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 12:44 PM

>

>  

>

> Dear Naina,

>

> Aren't you the very lucky one, recieving prompt responses from astrologiers

and from more then two of them at a time/consecutively.  They all seem to be

devoting there time to your queries and getting answers out to you the very same

day.Woowah.

> I am glad to see that your worries and questions are being met by them, but

sad how other forum members like my self don't really get speedy responses let

alone a response to our further queries to the answers they gave.

>

> You must be special in some way!!

>

> Good luck, and I hope God blesses you and Keval with long and loving life

together.

>

> Sincere Best wishes

> Code

> PS: No doubt the moderator and or the Astrologiers' will respond to what I

wrote here taking a negative stand point of what I am saying. Right?

>

>  

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> naina <nira_1 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>

>

> Tue, 10 November, 2009 14:00:47

> Re: please help

>

>  

> Dear Suresh Babu ji

>

> wow, i am impressed and thank you! you are praise worthy that without knowing

us, you have pinpointed out traits spot on :-).

>

> from looking at my chart, you probably have figured also i get confused

easily, and alway want the best which is not a good thing either so i beleive in

any boys case i would try and change things about them.

>

> you are very correct about both of out natures and i am aware of that and

coming to acceptance. i have discussed this issue about our natures with him and

he does not see it as a issue, in contrast he still wants to continue just as

much.

>

> the only thing i am concerned about is, that if we do continue, i beleive on

an emotional level we can comprimise and make it work, but is their any thing

out of our control that will become a factor of worry in our married life ( e.g

you mentioned children ). i just want to be sure that either one of us is not "

bad " for each other.

>

> thankyou soo much for your guidence, you have really helped me

>

> naina

>

> , " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Naina,

> >

> > Let me try to put this in proper perspective , what Shree Prashant Ji &

Krishna Ji are trying to tell you.

> >

> > First of all understand that the marriage is between you two and only both

of you are responcible for your happiness & sorrow.

> >

> > Astrology can only indicate ceratin traits & outcome. However if both of you

have the confidence that you can overcome the negatives - whether it is due to

character / atittude or by external factors , both known & unknown and still

love and care for each other, you can both go ahead and get married.

> >

> > As per Kerala system, We check 10 point based nakshatra koota and out of 10

this gets only 5

> >

> > Your horoscope is considered a Papa Jataka while his is Sudha jataka.

> >

> > You have

> > 1) 7th of Moon - Saturn = 1 point

> > 2) 8th of Moon - Mars = 1 Point

> > 3) 7th of Venus - Mars = 1 point

> > Total of 3 Malefic points = Papa Jataka

> >

> > he does not any malefic planets in th 7th of Lagna, Moon & Venus and hence

his horoscope is considered sudha jataka. Such people also will generaly be

simpltons and without malice in their minds. Many a times submissive and will

not even know if any one cheats them.

> >

> > In contrast, your character is not so.

> >

> > In due course, you may look at his simple thinking & way of life as weakness

and start to object & correct him. While he may consider your aggressiveness or

atittude too much for his liking.

> >

> > If you both can understand these traits and accept each other as such and

take a responcible decission, there is no problem for marriage.

> >

> > The only support is the Rina-Dhana relationship which is quite good, that is

supposed to have gained from previous life.

> >

> > So on one hand the matching is poor and on the other hand , the relationship

and what you feel for each other gains upper hand. The question you have to ask

yourself and each other, can you withstand the rigours of life and hold on to

each other through the thick & thin and stormy times.

> >

> > Astrologers can only point out the positives & negatives. But it upto you to

weigh them and take an intelligent decission. It is solely your responcibility.

> >

> > In fact you should discuss this issue with him frankly and see his opinion.

If he not willing to go ahead or support you, you know there is no point in

going ahead.

> >

> > 5th house in both the charts have heavy malefic influence, hence this could

lead to problems regarding projeny also.

> >

> >

> > So consider all the above and discuss with your family and your friend and

decide.

> >

> > There is no point in asking again and again the same questions.

> >

> > If you decide to get married you may approach after the marriage for any

remedies that may be required later in case of progeny etc.

> >

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> >

>

>

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Though your words and attempts are of calm nature and understanding. I fail to

see your point.

 

It seems that it is ok for astrologers to comment negatively about lay people,

hurt feelings and insult us and there is no recourse on that. But as soon as a

member expresses a dislike in the manner, you all gang up to provide and show

the neg and wrong member have done/said to you. That is not democratic in any

shape or form. Further more it proves my point as you have not issued my

response to Suresh. Not because it doesn't stretch too far, but I belive I have

spoken out what others are merely thinking.

 

I thought astro reading simply required TOB. DOB & POB, there is no relation to

email ID account etc. If you and or Suresh Babu et all wanted my name then that

is all you needed to ask. Why monk, and include my parents in your digs to &

about me. I am mature enough to take and see when a constructive critism is been

made and I will happly take that and accept it as my learning/development of

character.

It is clear from your mail that you are aware that people use ID that may not be

their real names. In that case you ought to ask your self if you are filtering

emails requst in the most fair and flexible manner and reaching out to those

who most need you. And if you had a rule attached to ID and its subsequent

responce process you ought to have informed users.

 

You all seem to bang on about my ID, really is that all you could find fault in

me to get your last word in. That is quiet childish frankly.

 

You proudly point out the number of post attached to my ID, but fail to

elaborate fully that all the 21 are not feedback to my queries, but rather a

mixture of me giving non-astro related advise to some members, and thanking

those were humbly/rightly due. So, I belive this is rather misleading about the

contents of my messages, when you say my " 21 references " .

 

I can see you are trying to reason with this, and that is great. But it would be

even more humbling if we are able to express (with in reseaon off course)

without being made to feel very small by comments of astrologers. Astrologers

need to be more mindful of what they say.

How would you feel, if I made a comment to you and then included your parents as

part of that critisim? It is uncalled for.

 

Yes I accept I didn't use my real name, so what? and all you all seem to be

doing is nit-picking on that aspect. Really there is nothing of dispute/for

correction here. And no need for thing to go too far or nasty.......as it all

depend on they tone and wording and humility of those who provide a responde.

 

I hope this mail hasn't stretch fare too

 

regards

C

 

 

 

 

________________________________

astro <gbp_kumar

 

Wed, 11 November, 2009 12:21:12

Re: please help- 11/11- Code

 

 

Dear Member,

 

I am approving this msg and not the one one Suresh Babu ji it is stretched too

far, but will add ur views briefly here.

this is surely a democratic forum and we gave never banned, thrown out ppl at

the drop of a hat.

 

We have tried to reason out with erring members and given them enough rope

unlike many other places where one mistake isa good bye. no chance to even

explain even if ur wronged and u just responded as a human can be equally hot or

whatever. I have experienced this myself so can tell the improtance of a good

feedback even critism if we r wrong, life is about lerarning and lear we wil

eternally else we r a all dead to say it is over.

 

COMING TO UR ISSUES

 

I HAVE ALSO RAISED ur ID issue CODE

and said ppl who have a proper name attract more attn easy to address a person

than a sound or code, number....

 

the name attracts some viberations and also reponses many do use fake names,

ID's too so wil their replies be as devoid of self-confidence, self-esteem they

r starting on a weak platform

 

there may be situations when they need to be private or use a proxy for a start

once some of them find comfort do come in the open be it in the forum or to a

member or two of their comfort level paid or free.

 

now UR observations on Suresh babu are more disrespectful than he had for u if

at all I am sure he did not mean to hurt or insult u but to drive it hard to

identify urself [it can be possibly be BETTER worded no doubt] if this was the

1st or 2nd mail of urs but as said there r 21 references to ur ID on a search

and many r thanking fellow astrologers so U GOT more than Naina so a comparison

was not right.

 

also as said Nania be it a real name or assumed name is clear toidentify than

ambiguous word like CODECODE.

 

if for some reason u want to hide ur presence it is too frivolous as we may not

know u anyway but from whom u r avoid ur presence they can identify u, ur data

isn't it and with IP address giving the location even the address from where u

sent a mail possible today they can satisfy themselves

 

we r not in such a race

 

HELP US HELP U- come with clear open information more info u give/share the

better u will see just look at today's post by Mr Anupam ID Elna Barman]

 

U CAN SEE HE WILL GET BETTER RESPONSES THAN OTHERS

 

and pl do understand astrologers r here doing a thankless, free reading jobs

MOSTLY when they can do a lot more of commercial work at home, and to spend

times in many forums we need the co-operation and curtsy, info in right order

 

so u wilL be here till u want to unless it goes too far.

 

Prashant

Moderator JR

 

, Code Code <codecode@.. .> wrote:

>

> Once again many thanks for your reply.

>

> And yes I agree with your statement " Negative feelings come up only if taken

in personal way " .

>

> I admire your approach of maturity and understandin Sir, your comments are

re-enforcing in astro-essences.

>

> Regards

> C

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

>

> Wed, 11 November, 2009 7:05:14

> Re: please help

>

>  

> Dear Mr Code,

> Infcat you are also special as we have positive views from mebers like you.The

Group considers such comments from members as positive as it helps in to look

into short comings if any.Negative feelings come up only if taken in personal

way. 

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

>  

>

> --- On Tue, 11/10/09, Code Code <codecode (AT) ymail (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> Code Code <codecode (AT) ymail (DOT) com>

> Re: please help

>

> Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 12:44 PM

>

>  

>

> Dear Naina,

>

> Aren't you the very lucky one, recieving prompt responses from astrologiers

and from more then two of them at a time/consecutively.  They all seem to be

devoting there time to your queries and getting answers out to you the very same

day.Woowah.

> I am glad to see that your worries and questions are being met by them, but

sad how other forum members like my self don't really get speedy responses let

alone a response to our further queries to the answers they gave.

>

> You must be special in some way!!

>

> Good luck, and I hope God blesses you and Keval with long and loving life

together.

>

> Sincere Best wishes

> Code

> PS: No doubt the moderator and or the Astrologiers' will respond to what I

wrote here taking a negative stand point of what I am saying. Right?

>

>  

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> naina <nira_1 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>

>

> Tue, 10 November, 2009 14:00:47

> Re: please help

>

>  

> Dear Suresh Babu ji

>

> wow, i am impressed and thank you! you are praise worthy that without knowing

us, you have pinpointed out traits spot on :-).

>

> from looking at my chart, you probably have figured also i get confused

easily, and alway want the best which is not a good thing either so i beleive in

any boys case i would try and change things about them.

>

> you are very correct about both of out natures and i am aware of that and

coming to acceptance. i have discussed this issue about our natures with him and

he does not see it as a issue, in contrast he still wants to continue just as

much.

>

> the only thing i am concerned about is, that if we do continue, i beleive on

an emotional level we can comprimise and make it work, but is their any thing

out of our control that will become a factor of worry in our married life ( e.g

you mentioned children ). i just want to be sure that either one of us is not "

bad " for each other.

>

> thankyou soo much for your guidence, you have really helped me

>

> naina

>

> , " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Naina,

> >

> > Let me try to put this in proper perspective , what Shree Prashant Ji &

Krishna Ji are trying to tell you.

> >

> > First of all understand that the marriage is between you two and only both

of you are responcible for your happiness & sorrow.

> >

> > Astrology can only indicate ceratin traits & outcome. However if both of you

have the confidence that you can overcome the negatives - whether it is due to

character / atittude or by external factors , both known & unknown and still

love and care for each other, you can both go ahead and get married.

> >

> > As per Kerala system, We check 10 point based nakshatra koota and out of 10

this gets only 5

> >

> > Your horoscope is considered a Papa Jataka while his is Sudha jataka.

> >

> > You have

> > 1) 7th of Moon - Saturn = 1 point

> > 2) 8th of Moon - Mars = 1 Point

> > 3) 7th of Venus - Mars = 1 point

> > Total of 3 Malefic points = Papa Jataka

> >

> > he does not any malefic planets in th 7th of Lagna, Moon & Venus and hence

his horoscope is considered sudha jataka. Such people also will generaly be

simpltons and without malice in their minds. Many a times submissive and will

not even know if any one cheats them.

> >

> > In contrast, your character is not so.

> >

> > In due course, you may look at his simple thinking & way of life as weakness

and start to object & correct him. While he may consider your aggressiveness or

atittude too much for his liking.

> >

> > If you both can understand these traits and accept each other as such and

take a responcible decission, there is no problem for marriage.

> >

> > The only support is the Rina-Dhana relationship which is quite good, that is

supposed to have gained from previous life.

> >

> > So on one hand the matching is poor and on the other hand , the relationship

and what you feel for each other gains upper hand. The question you have to ask

yourself and each other, can you withstand the rigours of life and hold on to

each other through the thick & thin and stormy times.

> >

> > Astrologers can only point out the positives & negatives. But it upto you to

weigh them and take an intelligent decission. It is solely your responcibility.

> >

> > In fact you should discuss this issue with him frankly and see his opinion.

If he not willing to go ahead or support you, you know there is no point in

going ahead.

> >

> > 5th house in both the charts have heavy malefic influence, hence this could

lead to problems regarding projeny also.

> >

> >

> > So consider all the above and discuss with your family and your friend and

decide.

> >

> > There is no point in asking again and again the same questions.

> >

> > If you decide to get married you may approach after the marriage for any

remedies that may be required later in case of progeny etc.

> >

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> >

>

>

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CODE MEMBER,

 

i have carried the crux of msg, what has upset u as well and same time also said

Suresh babu can be faulted if he or anyone were seeing it 1st or 2nd time, as I

had already mentioned abut ur name, ur reply cud have triggered it from him

 

it is not important or a rule to give ur name

 

it makes our job easy torelate to a human exixtance our identity our parents

give us is what we cherish isnt it by not giveng one u could get less attn than

those who have is the main point my Msg has and suresh ji the tone , tenor is an

area we can also do better if v r seeing just one or tow casesor groups,

 

and the 21 mails if u want me toread eachone and say anything will be stretching

it too far I am respecting ur mails as the ones who did in total not thru a

microscope. hence saying or comparing ur status to Naina was what SETT HE CAT

AMOUNG THE PIGEONS if I msut say as u feel we r treating u badly but see how

many posts in them u have also been given a chance/say

 

above all simple easy to address Naina a person than naina as star700, cdxyz21,

proudmom786 u can find this kind of id too here she too has complained her real

name being rafat tariq from Pak but now in England post marriage

 

I have been dealing with her for over 4 yrs before i cam to JR itself she has

another ID as well. and has been also getting too much atten too has many cases

to present that is one reason. but can't get instant replies as we have to see

if it is a new case or a repeat csae she is also studying astrology so the

responses is fairly good

 

these things happen rarely and remember we r working beyond our means, resources

of ttime, energy be more open with us and then complain.if u get a unfair

treatment.

 

look at each member r they doing the ame to all or just some and if so why

 

u can see such thing happens in other groups at the 1st instance some calling

for ur location, a call to one of the members to identify u r real etc. [that is

not a fake ID out to disturb some astrologer or group]

 

 

we r still repying to u patiently. and sure u will get ur concenrs replied in

due course.

 

prashant

 

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Code Code <codecode

 

Wed, November 11, 2009 7:40:15 PM

Re: please help- 11/11- Code

 

 

Though your words and attempts are of calm nature and understanding. I fail to

see your point.

 

It seems that it is ok for astrologers to comment negatively about lay people,

hurt feelings and insult us and there is no recourse on that. But as soon as a

member expresses a dislike in the manner, you all gang up to provide and show

the neg and wrong member have done/said to you. That is not democratic in any

shape or form. Further more it proves my point as you have not issued my

response to Suresh. Not because it doesn't stretch too far, but I belive I have

spoken out what others are merely thinking.

 

I thought astro reading simply required TOB. DOB & POB, there is no relation to

email ID account etc. If you and or Suresh Babu et all wanted my name then that

is all you needed to ask. Why monk, and include my parents in your digs to &

about me. I am mature enough to take and see when a constructive critism is been

made and I will happly take that and accept it as my learning/developmen t of

character.

It is clear from your mail that you are aware that people use ID that may not be

their real names. In that case you ought to ask your self if you are filtering

emails requst in the most fair and flexible manner and reaching out to those who

most need you. And if you had a rule attached to ID and its subsequent responce

process you ought to have informed users.

 

You all seem to bang on about my ID, really is that all you could find fault in

me to get your last word in. That is quiet childish frankly.

 

You proudly point out the number of post attached to my ID, but fail to

elaborate fully that all the 21 are not feedback to my queries, but rather a

mixture of me giving non-astro related advise to some members, and thanking

those were humbly/rightly due. So, I belive this is rather misleading about the

contents of my messages, when you say my " 21 references " .

 

I can see you are trying to reason with this, and that is great. But it would be

even more humbling if we are able to express (with in reseaon off course)

without being made to feel very small by comments of astrologers. Astrologers

need to be more mindful of what they say.

How would you feel, if I made a comment to you and then included your parents as

part of that critisim? It is uncalled for.

 

Yes I accept I didn't use my real name, so what? and all you all seem to be

doing is nit-picking on that aspect. Really there is nothing of dispute/for

correction here. And no need for thing to go too far or nasty....... as it all

depend on they tone and wording and humility of those who provide a responde.

 

I hope this mail hasn't stretch fare too

 

regards

C

 

____________ _________ _________ __

astro <gbp_kumar >

 

Wed, 11 November, 2009 12:21:12

Re: please help- 11/11- Code

 

 

Dear Member,

 

I am approving this msg and not the one one Suresh Babu ji it is stretched too

far, but will add ur views briefly here.

this is surely a democratic forum and we gave never banned, thrown out ppl at

the drop of a hat.

 

We have tried to reason out with erring members and given them enough rope

unlike many other places where one mistake isa good bye. no chance to even

explain even if ur wronged and u just responded as a human can be equally hot or

whatever. I have experienced this myself so can tell the improtance of a good

feedback even critism if we r wrong, life is about lerarning and lear we wil

eternally else we r a all dead to say it is over.

 

COMING TO UR ISSUES

 

I HAVE ALSO RAISED ur ID issue CODE

and said ppl who have a proper name attract more attn easy to address a person

than a sound or code, number....

 

the name attracts some viberations and also reponses many do use fake names,

ID's too so wil their replies be as devoid of self-confidence, self-esteem they

r starting on a weak platform

 

there may be situations when they need to be private or use a proxy for a start

once some of them find comfort do come in the open be it in the forum or to a

member or two of their comfort level paid or free.

 

now UR observations on Suresh babu are more disrespectful than he had for u if

at all I am sure he did not mean to hurt or insult u but to drive it hard to

identify urself [it can be possibly be BETTER worded no doubt] if this was the

1st or 2nd mail of urs but as said there r 21 references to ur ID on a search

and many r thanking fellow astrologers so U GOT more than Naina so a comparison

was not right.

 

also as said Nania be it a real name or assumed name is clear toidentify than

ambiguous word like CODECODE.

 

if for some reason u want to hide ur presence it is too frivolous as we may not

know u anyway but from whom u r avoid ur presence they can identify u, ur data

isn't it and with IP address giving the location even the address from where u

sent a mail possible today they can satisfy themselves

 

we r not in such a race

 

HELP US HELP U- come with clear open information more info u give/share the

better u will see just look at today's post by Mr Anupam ID Elna Barman]

 

U CAN SEE HE WILL GET BETTER RESPONSES THAN OTHERS

 

and pl do understand astrologers r here doing a thankless, free reading jobs

MOSTLY when they can do a lot more of commercial work at home, and to spend

times in many forums we need the co-operation and curtsy, info in right order

 

so u wilL be here till u want to unless it goes too far.

 

Prashant

Moderator JR

 

, Code Code <codecode@.. .> wrote:

>

> Once again many thanks for your reply.

>

> And yes I agree with your statement " Negative feelings come up only if taken

in personal way " .

>

> I admire your approach of maturity and understandin Sir, your comments are

re-enforcing in astro-essences.

>

> Regards

> C

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

>

> Wed, 11 November, 2009 7:05:14

> Re: please help

>

> Â

> Dear Mr Code,

> Infcat you are also special as we have positive views from mebers like you.The

Group considers such comments from members as positive as it helps in to look

into short comings if any.Negative feelings come up only if taken in personal

way.Â

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Â

>

> --- On Tue, 11/10/09, Code Code <codecode (AT) ymail (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> Code Code <codecode (AT) ymail (DOT) com>

> Re: please help

>

> Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 12:44 PM

>

> Â

>

> Dear Naina,

>

> Aren't you the very lucky one, recieving prompt responses from astrologiers

and from more then two of them at a time/consecutively. They all seem to be

devoting there time to your queries and getting answers out to you the very same

day.Woowah.

> I am glad to see that your worries and questions are being met by them, but

sad how other forum members like my self don't really get speedy responses let

alone a response to our further queries to the answers they gave.

>

> You must be special in some way!!

>

> Good luck, and I hope God blesses you and Keval with long and loving life

together.

>

> Sincere Best wishes

> Code

> PS: No doubt the moderator and or the Astrologiers' will respond to what I

wrote here taking a negative stand point of what I am saying. Right?

>

> Â

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> naina <nira_1 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>

>

> Tue, 10 November, 2009 14:00:47

> Re: please help

>

> Â

> Dear Suresh Babu ji

>

> wow, i am impressed and thank you! you are praise worthy that without knowing

us, you have pinpointed out traits spot on :-).

>

> from looking at my chart, you probably have figured also i get confused

easily, and alway want the best which is not a good thing either so i beleive in

any boys case i would try and change things about them.

>

> you are very correct about both of out natures and i am aware of that and

coming to acceptance. i have discussed this issue about our natures with him and

he does not see it as a issue, in contrast he still wants to continue just as

much.

>

> the only thing i am concerned about is, that if we do continue, i beleive on

an emotional level we can comprimise and make it work, but is their any thing

out of our control that will become a factor of worry in our married life ( e.g

you mentioned children ). i just want to be sure that either one of us is not "

bad " for each other.

>

> thankyou soo much for your guidence, you have really helped me

>

> naina

>

> , " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Naina,

> >

> > Let me try to put this in proper perspective , what Shree Prashant Ji &

Krishna Ji are trying to tell you.

> >

> > First of all understand that the marriage is between you two and only both

of you are responcible for your happiness & sorrow.

> >

> > Astrology can only indicate ceratin traits & outcome. However if both of you

have the confidence that you can overcome the negatives - whether it is due to

character / atittude or by external factors , both known & unknown and still

love and care for each other, you can both go ahead and get married.

> >

> > As per Kerala system, We check 10 point based nakshatra koota and out of 10

this gets only 5

> >

> > Your horoscope is considered a Papa Jataka while his is Sudha jataka.

> >

> > You have

> > 1) 7th of Moon - Saturn = 1 point

> > 2) 8th of Moon - Mars = 1 Point

> > 3) 7th of Venus - Mars = 1 point

> > Total of 3 Malefic points = Papa Jataka

> >

> > he does not any malefic planets in th 7th of Lagna, Moon & Venus and hence

his horoscope is considered sudha jataka. Such people also will generaly be

simpltons and without malice in their minds. Many a times submissive and will

not even know if any one cheats them.

> >

> > In contrast, your character is not so.

> >

> > In due course, you may look at his simple thinking & way of life as weakness

and start to object & correct him. While he may consider your aggressiveness or

atittude too much for his liking.

> >

> > If you both can understand these traits and accept each other as such and

take a responcible decission, there is no problem for marriage.

> >

> > The only support is the Rina-Dhana relationship which is quite good, that is

supposed to have gained from previous life.

> >

> > So on one hand the matching is poor and on the other hand , the relationship

and what you feel for each other gains upper hand. The question you have to ask

yourself and each other, can you withstand the rigours of life and hold on to

each other through the thick & thin and stormy times.

> >

> > Astrologers can only point out the positives & negatives. But it upto you to

weigh them and take an intelligent decission. It is solely your responcibility.

> >

> > In fact you should discuss this issue with him frankly and see his opinion.

If he not willing to go ahead or support you, you know there is no point in

going ahead.

> >

> > 5th house in both the charts have heavy malefic influence, hence this could

lead to problems regarding projeny also.

> >

> >

> > So consider all the above and discuss with your family and your friend and

decide.

> >

> > There is no point in asking again and again the same questions.

> >

> > If you decide to get married you may approach after the marriage for any

remedies that may be required later in case of progeny etc.

> >

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> >

>

>

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