is it possible to predict the gender from horescope

[Guest guest]

Respected Gurujis

 

On Sunday i had a chance meeting witha group of " Scientifically enlightened " (

which actually means Hinduism bashers) by accident.

 

When i could counter them with many things, theer were 2 questions put to me

finally.

 

1. Can anyone by seeing the horescope can predict whether the person is alive or

not. - I have seen astrologers predicting that and siad yes with the time of

birth, that can be predicted.

 

2. The second question was whether with time of birth can the gender be found.

 

I have seen astrologers predicting a persons orientation, impotency and

genderlessness, i have not checked the prediction of gender itself? Is it

possible. Can anyone predict the gender?

 

Regards

 

Sankar

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear friend,

 

Astrologically the time can be divided into 3 groups:

 

Exclusive male birth time;

 

Exclusive female birth time;

 

Birth time suitable both female and male.

 

Sage Jaimini's technique uses Vighati Lagna.

 

One day = 60 Ghati.

 

So one Ghati is 24 minute.

 

1 Ghati =60 vighati.

 

So 1 Vighati is 24 seconds.

 

Please note if the Vighati Lagna is strongly influenced by male planets only =

birth time is for male birth exclusively and so on...

--------------------------------

 

Ghati Lagna ...moves at 5 times faster in speed than Lagna,

 

Vighati Lagna.....moves 300 times faster in speed than Lagna.

 

 

Since the original system suggests that if the Vighati Lagna is

 

strongly influenced by

 

strong enunch planets....enunchs are born;

 

if by both male and female planets.....male as well as females birth is

possible....

 

 

In this situation...we can take recourse to prasna chart.

 

But what to do if in the prasna chart again.....Vighati Lagna is

 

strongly influenced by both male and female planets ?

....................................................................

 

Some astrologer take rasi,navamsa, star, sub and other divisional dispositors

signs of Rahu (Karmic control Planet) and Lagna and Mandi (the cause of our

past deeds...hence present birth on this earth)

 

assess the cumulative influence of

 

male and female planets

 

to decide the

 

sexuality of the native.

 

I have experimented with this methods

 

and found this to be approximately 80 % accurate in test cases.

 

 

Astrologers using sub-sub theory

 

take first half of male sub-sub as male and second half as female birth time and

so on.....

 

But this theory also fails in horary experiments to determine the

sexuality/ gender of the person in nearly 20% of cases.

 

Their excuse is that since the star sub sub of planet sun-sun-sun is of the

lowest span; say 6 seconds....

 

we need our clock accurate upto the level of 3 seconds ( to determine whether

the birth time falls in first of second half of the star-sub-sub of sun.

----

 

But if we give more importance to sexuality( whether the native is of feminine

in charastistics or musculine in characteristics such as bold, courageous,

adamant, leadrship etc. etc.) than the gender then we can see all the three

astrological methods described above works quite satisfactorily.

----

 

As far as asking question about already dead person is concerned.

 

One can depend on Nimitta, if the

 

7th house , 7th lord or jupiter in the prasna lagna is strongly afflicted by

natural or functional malefics !

 

7th house factors and jupiter = stand for astrologer in prasna.

 

The astrological rules to find out...

 

is same as finding if a missing person/ suffering person

 

is alive or dead.

 

Note: In case of strong affliction of 7th house/lord 9th house/lord as well as

jupiter...at least for two factors

 

the astrologer should not entertain the trial or question and

 

ask the client to come some other time.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

(Consultancy out of group is not free)

 

 

, " sankaranarayanan k.s "

<shankypriyan wrote:

>

> Respected Gurujis

>  

> On Sunday i had a chance meeting witha group of " Scientifically enlightened "

( which actually means Hinduism bashers) by accident.

>  

> When i could counter them with many things, theer were 2 questions put to me

finally.

>  

> 1. Can anyone by seeing the horescope can predict whether the person is alive

or not. - I have seen astrologers predicting that and siad yes with the time of

birth, that can be predicted.

>  

> 2. The second question was whether with time of birth can the gender be found.

>  

> I have seen astrologers predicting a persons orientation, impotency and

genderlessness, i have not checked the prediction of gender itself? Is it

possible. Can anyone predict the gender?

>  

> Regards

>  

> Sankar

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sankar,

 

it is possible to predict in most cases, but where is the time, application of

rules most want instant readings so ppl go to that area only though by being

clear in the sex it helps the accuracy better.

 

prashant

 

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth

data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in

the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside

the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group

for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

sankaranarayanan k.s <shankypriyan

 

Tue, November 17, 2009 10:36:21 AM

is it possible to predict the gender from horescope

 

 

Respected Gurujis

 

On Sunday i had a chance meeting witha group of " Scientifically enlightened " (

which actually means Hinduism bashers) by accident.

 

When i could counter them with many things, theer were 2 questions put to me

finally.

 

1. Can anyone by seeing the horescope can predict whether the person is alive or

not. - I have seen astrologers predicting that and siad yes with the time of

birth, that can be predicted.

 

2. The second question was whether with time of birth can the gender be found.

 

I have seen astrologers predicting a persons orientation, impotency and

genderlessness, i have not checked the prediction of gender itself? Is it

possible. Can anyone predict the gender?

 

Regards

 

Sankar

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Members,

Very interesting matter.Possibly Astrologer need a consistent data if they have

to come out with accurate prediction.

I have a case from Mr Gagan Chugh,from Delhi for whom getting child after 7-8

years of marraige was not taking place.In his case conception,delivery and

gender all were according to astrological anlysis.

He is meen rasi and the conception took place after remedies,and his wife

delivered premature baby and who is now 7 yrs old hale and healthy

If we go by BHPS analysis it is possible as it was mentioned about

sons,duaghters,bahu snatana yoga the analysis of 5th and 7th houses along with

certain conditions.

only problem how ever if a chart with was provided with out mentioning gender v

have difficult situations.Prashna though provides clues in such cases

Even for us when enquiries were made out about snatana yoga,some of or

predictions could be correct.

Astrological delineation and with definete data could be made out.Shri K.N.Rao

in his articles and early predictions in 1980 gives account of putra yoga and

mentions about sex.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

 

--- On Tue, 11/17/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

 

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

Re: is it possible to predict the gender from horescope

 

Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 2:45 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sankar,

 

it is possible to predict in most cases, but where is the time, application of

rules most want instant readings so ppl go to that area only though by being

clear in the sex it helps the accuracy better.

 

prashant

 

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth

data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in

the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside

the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group

for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

 

____________ _________ _________ __

sankaranarayanan k.s <shankypriyan@ >

 

Tue, November 17, 2009 10:36:21 AM

is it possible to predict the gender from horescope

 

Respected Gurujis

 

On Sunday i had a chance meeting witha group of " Scientifically enlightened " (

which actually means Hinduism bashers) by accident.

 

When i could counter them with many things, theer were 2 questions put to me

finally.

 

1. Can anyone by seeing the horescope can predict whether the person is alive or

not. - I have seen astrologers predicting that and siad yes with the time of

birth, that can be predicted.

 

2. The second question was whether with time of birth can the gender be found.

 

I have seen astrologers predicting a persons orientation, impotency and

genderlessness, i have not checked the prediction of gender itself? Is it

possible. Can anyone predict the gender?

 

Regards

 

Sankar

 

 

[Guest guest]

Overall, while cases have been reported where gender etc had been predicted

ahead of time correctly, when challenged, we have not heard of an astrologer who

is ONLY using astrology as opposed to Astrology and yogic powers and intuition

etc, and can GUARANTEE 100% accuracy! But then, so cannot the ultrasound

technology used by scientists and doctors!

 

The problem with these, " My Dad is bigger than yours and throw the ball farther "

type bravados is simply this! While kids fight and claim and play these childish

games never studied their fathers and what those Dads could really do ;-)

 

As to that other one about dead or alive: Doctors predict all the time that amuk

amuk will live for 4 or 6 months or 2 years but has anyone gone back and

actually examined how often the good doctor was right or wrong? In situations

like these, particularly if a close one is involved, we remember observations in

a patchy manner and this then constitutes what is known as 'anecdotal evidence'

which is anything but...!

 

SKS jee, my humble advice to you is: Find better friends rather than wasting

time with those scientifically enlightened friends! Verify their degrees and

experience and first ascertain their scientific credibilities etc ;-)

 

Do the same for the astrologers you run into! Degrees etc may not mean much in

this domain because the field is a bit disorganized and uncontrolled. All that

means is that you would have to work harder and be a bit more

choosy/picky/street-wise! And to think seriously about what exactly it is that

you are looking for! ;-)

 

Regards,

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " sankaranarayanan k.s "

<shankypriyan wrote:

>

> Respected Gurujis

>  

> On Sunday i had a chance meeting witha group of " Scientifically enlightened "

( which actually means Hinduism bashers) by accident.

>  

> When i could counter them with many things, theer were 2 questions put to me

finally.

>  

> 1. Can anyone by seeing the horescope can predict whether the person is alive

or not. - I have seen astrologers predicting that and siad yes with the time of

birth, that can be predicted.

>  

> 2. The second question was whether with time of birth can the gender be found.

>  

> I have seen astrologers predicting a persons orientation, impotency and

genderlessness, i have not checked the prediction of gender itself? Is it

possible. Can anyone predict the gender?

>  

> Regards

>  

> Sankar

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jyotish as such has potentialities. Needs hard  work,which internt media is

difficult to cater.

Devoted AStrologer serving for the cause 2 help society has all elements on

oga,intitutiveness and no doubt combines.Scientifc approach to delineate and

suggest may not be possible with questionable data and approaches.

In planned parent hood days and in days of for financial freedom becoming

evident,few parents are interested in gender.curiosity however can be academic

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

 

--- On Tue, 11/17/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

Re: is it possible to predict the gender from horescope

 

Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 9:21 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Overall, while cases have been reported where gender etc had been predicted

ahead of time correctly, when challenged, we have not heard of an astrologer who

is ONLY using astrology as opposed to Astrology and yogic powers and intuition

etc, and can GUARANTEE 100% accuracy! But then, so cannot the ultrasound

technology used by scientists and doctors!

 

The problem with these, " My Dad is bigger than yours and throw the ball farther "

type bravados is simply this! While kids fight and claim and play these childish

games never studied their fathers and what those Dads could really do ;-)

 

As to that other one about dead or alive: Doctors predict all the time that amuk

amuk will live for 4 or 6 months or 2 years but has anyone gone back and

actually examined how often the good doctor was right or wrong? In situations

like these, particularly if a close one is involved, we remember observations in

a patchy manner and this then constitutes what is known as 'anecdotal evidence'

which is anything but...!

 

SKS jee, my humble advice to you is: Find better friends rather than wasting

time with those scientifically enlightened friends! Verify their degrees and

experience and first ascertain their scientific credibilities etc ;-)

 

Do the same for the astrologers you run into! Degrees etc may not mean much in

this domain because the field is a bit disorganized and uncontrolled. All that

means is that you would have to work harder and be a bit more choosy/picky/

street-wise! And to think seriously about what exactly it is that you are

looking for! ;-)

 

Regards,

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " sankaranarayanan k.s " <shankypriyan@

....> wrote:

>

> Respected Gurujis

>  

> On Sunday i had a chance meeting witha group of " Scientifically enlightened "

( which actually means Hinduism bashers) by accident.

>  

> When i could counter them with many things, theer were 2 questions put to me

finally.

>  

> 1. Can anyone by seeing the horescope can predict whether the person is alive

or not. - I have seen astrologers predicting that and siad yes with the time of

birth, that can be predicted.

>  

> 2. The second question was whether with time of birth can the gender be found.

>  

> I have seen astrologers predicting a persons orientation, impotency and

genderlessness, i have not checked the prediction of gender itself? Is it

possible. Can anyone predict the gender?

>  

> Regards

>  

> Sankar

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri KS,

The clarification given by Shri Mrityunjay Ji,answers immensely for gender

issues.Yet if the inquiry or astrological nothing but only about the gender

only,prashna was found to be of immense value.

For geneder detrmination,it is for astrolgers to address only after conception

is confirmed for the astro guidelines to guide.

In several instances,faking the incidents and raising the questions too have to

be faced by jyotish in general.More so in learning media of jyotish.Here haste

post push of button and reply lands every one in trouble.

This ofcourse is not limited to gender issuse and is applicable for all other in

quiries more related to 2nd 5th ,7th and 11th house issues.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

 

--- On Tue, 11/17/09, jyotish <astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote:

 

 

jyotish <astrologer_mrutyunjay

Re: is it possible to predict the gender from horescope

 

Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 2:38 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear friend,

 

Astrologically the time can be divided into 3 groups:

 

Exclusive male birth time;

 

Exclusive female birth time;

 

Birth time suitable both female and male.

 

Sage Jaimini's technique uses Vighati Lagna.

 

One day = 60 Ghati.

 

So one Ghati is 24 minute.

 

1 Ghati =60 vighati.

 

So 1 Vighati is 24 seconds.

 

Please note if the Vighati Lagna is strongly influenced by male planets only =

birth time is for male birth exclusively and so on...

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

 

Ghati Lagna ...moves at 5 times faster in speed than Lagna,

 

Vighati Lagna.....moves 300 times faster in speed than Lagna.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

 

Since the original system suggests that if the Vighati Lagna is

 

strongly influenced by

 

strong enunch planets....enunchs are born;

 

if by both male and female planets..... male as well as females birth is

possible....

 

In this situation... we can take recourse to prasna chart.

 

But what to do if in the prasna chart again.....Vighati Lagna is

 

strongly influenced by both male and female planets ?

............. ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... .

 

Some astrologer take rasi,navamsa, star, sub and other divisional dispositors

signs of Rahu (Karmic control Planet) and Lagna and Mandi (the cause of our past

deeds...hence present birth on this earth)

 

assess the cumulative influence of

 

male and female planets

 

to decide the

 

sexuality of the native.

 

I have experimented with this methods

 

and found this to be approximately 80 % accurate in test cases.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

 

Astrologers using sub-sub theory

 

take first half of male sub-sub as male and second half as female birth time and

so on.....

 

But this theory also fails in horary experiments to determine the

sexuality/ gender of the person in nearly 20% of cases.

 

Their excuse is that since the star sub sub of planet sun-sun-sun is of the

lowest span; say 6 seconds....

 

we need our clock accurate upto the level of 3 seconds ( to determine whether

the birth time falls in first of second half of the star-sub-sub of sun.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

 

But if we give more importance to sexuality( whether the native is of feminine

in charastistics or musculine in characteristics such as bold, courageous,

adamant, leadrship etc. etc.) than the gender then we can see all the three

astrological methods described above works quite satisfactorily.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

 

As far as asking question about already dead person is concerned.

 

One can depend on Nimitta, if the

 

7th house , 7th lord or jupiter in the prasna lagna is strongly afflicted by

natural or functional malefics !

 

7th house factors and jupiter = stand for astrologer in prasna.

 

The astrological rules to find out...

 

is same as finding if a missing person/ suffering person

 

is alive or dead.

 

Note: In case of strong affliction of 7th house/lord 9th house/lord as well as

jupiter...at least for two factors

 

the astrologer should not entertain the trial or question and

 

ask the client to come some other time.

 

Regards,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

(Consultancy out of group is not free)

 

, " sankaranarayanan k.s " <shankypriyan@

....> wrote:

>

> Respected Gurujis

>  

> On Sunday i had a chance meeting witha group of " Scientifically enlightened "

( which actually means Hinduism bashers) by accident.

>  

> When i could counter them with many things, theer were 2 questions put to me

finally.

>  

> 1. Can anyone by seeing the horescope can predict whether the person is alive

or not. - I have seen astrologers predicting that and siad yes with the time of

birth, that can be predicted.

>  

> 2. The second question was whether with time of birth can the gender be found.

>  

> I have seen astrologers predicting a persons orientation, impotency and

genderlessness, i have not checked the prediction of gender itself? Is it

possible. Can anyone predict the gender?

>  

> Regards

>  

> Sankar

>

>

>

>

>