Guest guest Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Dear Krishnan Jee and friends, The equation was propounded in the context of denial of marriage. The article with 300 chart examples was published in the 1970s by Shri HR Shankar Jee in Astrological Magazine published by then Dr B V Raman and was very much appreciated by the astrological community. Though I have not seen the copy of AM, I have learned it from other Senior Astrologers and confirmed it to be surprisingly accurate ! The basis for using Rahu-Karaka or Lagna-Karaka equation is that primary permission of the Karmic Contrl Planet Rahu / Life significator-Lagna. -- I am thinking of its similarity with the Jaimini Aphorisms that: 'Nothing fruitful related to a Chara Karaka happens if the particular Charaka is not allowed to do so by the Atmakaraka' One good astrologer Mr Vijar Kumar along with around 10 charts had also demonstrated this through his article in the Astrological Magazine in 2007 ( month I can not recall exactly....just a few months before the magazine's closing of its publication). For example Shri Vijay Kumar Jee has demonstrated that in the Chart of Amitabh Bachan, the actor the Atmakaraka and Darakaraka are in 6/8 or 2/12 position, therefore the acting career of his wife Ms. Jaya Bachan was considerably limited immediately after the marriage, because the unfavourable disposition of the Darakaraka with Atmakaraka (the king of the Horoscope as per Jaimini teachings) did not allowed it to prosper.) --- The other two Jaimini techniques are assessment of various Karaka effects from the Bhoga Lagna (Arudha Lagna) and Karma-Lagna ( or Paka Lagna...the sign where the lagna lord resides in natal chart). Paka Lagna shows the amount of efforts put on by the native (INPUT). Bhoga Lagna (Arudha Lagna) shows the amount of tangible enjoyment(OUTPUT). ---- For assessment of magnitude and actual nature of event I generally take the rasi occupied by the Mahadasa Lord as Lagna, check the results from both Bhoga Lagna, Paka Lagna calculated therefrom, beside checking the results from Arudha Lagna and Moon Sign only if any of these 5 natal Lagna ( Lagna, Bhoga, Paka, Chandra, Navamsa) are considerably strong. ---- If a particular Lagna is weak then there is no need to calculate result with reference from that Lagna. ---- Hope all friends will experiment with charts/ cases available with them and come forward with valuable insights into discovery /application of useful Jyotish Techniques including the exceptional situations where these technique may not work ! (Since we are experimenting, we must keep our mind open for any kind of eventuality; positive or negative). With regards and best wishes to all, Mrutyunjay Tripathy (Consultancy out of group is not free) In , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Shri Tripathy Ji, > In what context the equation was propounded.?It is ofacdemic interest to know the context of shri Shankar Ji formula? > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Â > > --- On Tue, 11/17/09, jyotish <astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote: > > > jyotish <astrologer_mrutyunjay > Extending HR Shankar's astrological equations > > Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 3:29 AM > > > Â > > > > Dear friend, > > Famous astrologer Shri HR Shankar's equation; > > Longitude of Rahu (karmic control planet) -Longitude of karaka of an event ( say Venus for marriage) = if closely conjunct/opposed/ in square to any planet within 5 degree > > = the signification (event is denied ) ( say marriage in this example). > > I have experimented with > > Rahu-Mars and Lagna-Mars equation for accidents > > and found it to be true in a large number of cases ! > > Experimentation for other natural significators are not yet conclusive. > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > NOTE: THE DENIAL OF POSITIVE EVENTS MAY BE EXCLUSIVE AND SUFFICIENT CONDITION > > BUT > > IN CASE OF NEGATIVE EVENTS....WE CAN BE SURE OF AT LEAST ONE NEGATIVE EVENT IN THE LIFE TIME ! > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > Please try these methods and share your valuable experiences when possible, > > Regards, > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > (Consultancy out of group is not free) > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Dear Shri Mrityunjayaji I have A.Ms of Shri BVR from early 1980's.If some reference is given I can trace it.Shri H.R.Shankar is known palmist from Hyd and might be some strologey too.Hailing from Hyd HR Shankar is known person. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services)  --- On Wed, 11/18/09, jyotish <astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote: jyotish <astrologer_mrutyunjay Re: Extending HR Shankar's astrological equations- similar concepts Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 2:41 AM  Dear Krishnan Jee and friends, The equation was propounded in the context of denial of marriage. The article with 300 chart examples was published in the 1970s by Shri HR Shankar Jee in Astrological Magazine published by then Dr B V Raman and was very much appreciated by the astrological community. Though I have not seen the copy of AM, I have learned it from other Senior Astrologers and confirmed it to be surprisingly accurate ! The basis for using Rahu-Karaka or Lagna-Karaka equation is that primary permission of the Karmic Contrl Planet Rahu / Life significator- Lagna. ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - I am thinking of its similarity with the Jaimini Aphorisms that: 'Nothing fruitful related to a Chara Karaka happens if the particular Charaka is not allowed to do so by the Atmakaraka' One good astrologer Mr Vijar Kumar along with around 10 charts had also demonstrated this through his article in the Astrological Magazine in 2007 ( month I can not recall exactly....just a few months before the magazine's closing of its publication) . For example Shri Vijay Kumar Jee has demonstrated that in the Chart of Amitabh Bachan, the actor the Atmakaraka and Darakaraka are in 6/8 or 2/12 position, therefore the acting career of his wife Ms. Jaya Bachan was considerably limited immediately after the marriage, because the unfavourable disposition of the Darakaraka with Atmakaraka (the king of the Horoscope as per Jaimini teachings) did not allowed it to prosper.) ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - The other two Jaimini techniques are assessment of various Karaka effects from the Bhoga Lagna (Arudha Lagna) and Karma-Lagna ( or Paka Lagna...the sign where the lagna lord resides in natal chart). Paka Lagna shows the amount of efforts put on by the native (INPUT). Bhoga Lagna (Arudha Lagna) shows the amount of tangible enjoyment(OUTPUT) . ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - For assessment of magnitude and actual nature of event I generally take the rasi occupied by the Mahadasa Lord as Lagna, check the results from both Bhoga Lagna, Paka Lagna calculated therefrom, beside checking the results from Arudha Lagna and Moon Sign only if any of these 5 natal Lagna ( Lagna, Bhoga, Paka, Chandra, Navamsa) are considerably strong. ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - If a particular Lagna is weak then there is no need to calculate result with reference from that Lagna. ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - Hope all friends will experiment with charts/ cases available with them and come forward with valuable insights into discovery /application of useful Jyotish Techniques including the exceptional situations where these technique may not work ! (Since we are experimenting, we must keep our mind open for any kind of eventuality; positive or negative). With regards and best wishes to all, Mrutyunjay Tripathy (Consultancy out of group is not free) In , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Shri Tripathy Ji, > In what context the equation was propounded.? It is ofacdemic interest to know the context of shri Shankar Ji formula? > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) >  > > --- On Tue, 11/17/09, jyotish <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ ...> wrote: > > > jyotish <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ ...> > Extending HR Shankar's astrological equations > > Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 3:29 AM > > >  > > > > Dear friend, > > Famous astrologer Shri HR Shankar's equation; > > Longitude of Rahu (karmic control planet) -Longitude of karaka of an event ( say Venus for marriage) = if closely conjunct/opposed/ in square to any planet within 5 degree > > = the signification (event is denied ) ( say marriage in this example). > > I have experimented with > > Rahu-Mars and Lagna-Mars equation for accidents > > and found it to be true in a large number of cases ! > > Experimentation for other natural significators are not yet conclusive. > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > NOTE: THE DENIAL OF POSITIVE EVENTS MAY BE EXCLUSIVE AND SUFFICIENT CONDITION > > BUT > > IN CASE OF NEGATIVE EVENTS....WE CAN BE SURE OF AT LEAST ONE NEGATIVE EVENT IN THE LIFE TIME ! > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > Please try these methods and share your valuable experiences when possible, > > Regards, > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > (Consultancy out of group is not free) > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Dear Shri Krishnan Jee, The astrologer who taught me this equation simply told that it was published sometimes in the 1970s. I have learnt the said equation from one senior astrologer near to my village who also introduced me into KP system and its intricacies ( both positive side and short-comings). Writing a request email / letter to Ms. Gayatri Devi Vasudev may provide us some direct help if possible. Regards, Mrutyunjay Tripathy , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Shri Mrityunjayaji > I have A.Ms of Shri BVR from early 1980's.If some reference is given I can trace it.Shri H.R.Shankar is known palmist from Hyd and might be some strologey too.Hailing from Hyd HR Shankar is known person. > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) >  > > --- On Wed, 11/18/09, jyotish <astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote: > > > jyotish <astrologer_mrutyunjay > Re: Extending HR Shankar's astrological equations- similar concepts > > Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 2:41 AM > > >  > > > > Dear Krishnan Jee and friends, > > The equation was propounded in the > > context of denial of marriage. > > The article with 300 chart examples was published in the 1970s > > by Shri HR Shankar Jee in Astrological Magazine published by then > > Dr B V Raman and was very much appreciated by > > the astrological community. > > Though I have not seen the copy of AM, I have learned it from other Senior Astrologers and confirmed it to be surprisingly accurate ! > > The basis for using Rahu-Karaka or Lagna-Karaka equation is that primary permission of the Karmic Contrl Planet > > Rahu / Life significator- Lagna. > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > I am thinking of its similarity with the Jaimini Aphorisms that: > > 'Nothing fruitful related to a Chara Karaka happens if > > the particular Charaka is not allowed to do so by > > the Atmakaraka' > > One good astrologer Mr Vijar Kumar along with around 10 charts had > > also demonstrated this through his article in the Astrological Magazine in 2007 ( month I can not recall exactly....just a few months before the magazine's closing of its publication) . > > For example Shri Vijay Kumar Jee has demonstrated that in the Chart of Amitabh Bachan, the actor the Atmakaraka and Darakaraka > > are in 6/8 or 2/12 position, > > therefore the acting career of his wife Ms. Jaya Bachan was > > considerably limited immediately after the marriage, > > because the unfavourable disposition of the Darakaraka > > with Atmakaraka (the king of the Horoscope as per Jaimini teachings) > did not allowed it to prosper.) > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > The other two Jaimini techniques are > > assessment of various Karaka effects from the > > Bhoga Lagna (Arudha Lagna) > > and Karma-Lagna ( or Paka Lagna...the sign where the lagna lord resides in natal chart). > > Paka Lagna shows the amount of efforts put on by the native (INPUT). > > Bhoga Lagna (Arudha Lagna) shows the amount of tangible enjoyment(OUTPUT) . > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > For assessment of magnitude and actual nature of event > > I generally take the rasi occupied by the Mahadasa Lord as Lagna, > > check the results from both Bhoga Lagna, Paka Lagna calculated therefrom, > > beside checking the results from Arudha Lagna and Moon Sign > > only if any of these 5 natal Lagna ( Lagna, Bhoga, Paka, Chandra, Navamsa) are considerably strong. > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > If a particular Lagna is weak then there is no need to calculate result with reference from that Lagna. > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > Hope all friends will experiment with charts/ cases available with them and come forward with valuable insights into discovery /application of useful Jyotish Techniques > > including the exceptional situations where these technique > > may not work ! (Since we are experimenting, we must keep our mind open for any kind of eventuality; positive or negative). > > With regards and best wishes to all, > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > (Consultancy out of group is not free) > > In , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Tripathy Ji, > > In what context the equation was propounded.? It is ofacdemic interest to know the context of shri Shankar Ji formula? > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > >  > > > > --- On Tue, 11/17/09, jyotish <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > jyotish <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ ...> > > Extending HR Shankar's astrological equations > > > > Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 3:29 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > Famous astrologer Shri HR Shankar's equation; > > > > Longitude of Rahu (karmic control planet) -Longitude of karaka of an event ( say Venus for marriage) = if closely conjunct/opposed/ in square to any planet within 5 degree > > > > = the signification (event is denied ) ( say marriage in this example). > > > > I have experimented with > > > > Rahu-Mars and Lagna-Mars equation for accidents > > > > and found it to be true in a large number of cases ! > > > > Experimentation for other natural significators are not yet conclusive. > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > NOTE: THE DENIAL OF POSITIVE EVENTS MAY BE EXCLUSIVE AND SUFFICIENT CONDITION > > > > BUT > > > > IN CASE OF NEGATIVE EVENTS....WE CAN BE SURE OF AT LEAST ONE NEGATIVE EVENT IN THE LIFE TIME ! > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > Please try these methods and share your valuable experiences when possible, > > > > Regards, > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > (Consultancy out of group is not free) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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