Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Dear Vinay ji, We see today lot of commotion regarding seperate state of Telengana, for & against it. Similar issues has croped up in North-eastern states for Gurkha land etc. Since you have worked with koorma chakras and other methods on Mundane matters, what is opinion on these issues?. What if other states also demand split ups, whatever be the political reason?. It looks like we are going back to pre-british periods with so many small states (villages) each ruled by their own kings & fighting then for supremancy-now on language and other matters. regards A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Merucentric World Chart (PRITHVI-CHAKRA) for 2009-10 (Year beginning with Mesha Samkraanti) : D1: (1) India falls in 6th bhaava : bad. (2) Lord Venus is highly inauspicious by dint of being lord of 6th & 11th houses. (3) Mars is defeated by Venus in planetary war, hence the houses of Mars (5, 12) come in control of Venus. Both sit in 3rd house. (4) Both Venus and Mars are under firm control of Saturn (Bhaavesh-drishti of 57') : Saturn is lord of 2,3 and sits in 9th house of its bitter enemy Sun. Hence, Saturn is the final lord of India. Saturn is auspicious in 9th house, but very weak due to being in bitter enemy's house. But Saturn is Maarakesh and in Sarvatobhadra its Vedha is for L, M letters. Rahu in 2nd houses also pierces L. Hence, many bomb blasts in Lahore this year. D9: Saturn is exalted in 3rd house, and lord of 6th & 7th houses. Hence, combination of D1 and D9 is good for India in spite of having troubles from 6th house. DESHA-CHAKRA or national chart of India from Vidisha : Saturn governing Venus and Venus governing Mars as above. Saturn, lord of 1 & 2, sits in bitter enemy Sun's house in 8th while Venus and Mars sit in 2nd house. 8th house is towards NW, hence violence in that quarter , mainly in Pakistan. But 2nd house contains good deal of coastal andhra and eastern Telangana, causing violence by naxalites or linguistic strife & c & c. Rest of Telangana is in lagna, lorded by Saturn. It will be better than 2nd house but violence will ensue on account of Saturn sitting in bitter enemy 8th house. Nakshatra-Chart for Vishaakhaa (Desha-chakra) Dec 3-16,2009 : Saturn lord of 2 & 3 in which entire Andhra Pradesh lies, and Saturn sits in 10th house making Parivartan-yoga (mutual lordship) with Rahu in 2nd. Saturn in 10th house of national chart creates political problems for the ruling party in the regions afflicted by Saturn. Third level of Chakra is Pradesh-Chakra. When made from Hyderabad, it gives Saturn as lord of 1,2 and sitting in 8th house in the annual Mesha kundali. In Jyeshthaa chart (Dec 3-16, 2009), Saturn is in 10th as lord of 2 & 3 having parivartana relation with Rahu in 2nd. Chart drawn on the map of Andhra Pradesh can give sectoral predictions. For instance, 6th house is in NE direction from Hyderabad and will witness relatively more strife. 12th house SW from Hyderabad will do same. Ketu in 6th house with debilitated Mars has Vedha of Hyderabad's H letter. Telangana's T was pierced by Mercury : Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra. Most troublesome Tithi is 9 and 14. Other divisionals have been incorporated only in Merucentric charts im my softwares, in Desha and Pradesha chakras only D1 results are given presently. I have to complete these programs by including other divisionals which sometimes become more important than D1 (eg, when the effective planet is exalted or in bad houses in D9). 2nd house influences language, and affliction of 2nd house by Saturn in these charts suggests linguistic strife. Daily carts can give us day to day developments at all 7 levels of chakras. -VJ ====================== ==== , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Dear Vinay ji, > > We see today lot of commotion regarding seperate state of Telengana, for & against it. Similar issues has croped up in North-eastern states for Gurkha land etc. > > Since you have worked with koorma chakras and other methods on Mundane matters, what is opinion on these issues?. > > What if other states also demand split ups, whatever be the political reason?. > > It looks like we are going back to pre-british periods with so many small states (villages) each ruled by their own kings & fighting then for supremancy-now on language and other matters. > > > regards > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Dear Shri Suresh Ji, This reference gives an opportunity for mid term review of Astrological forecaste for the on going year.Certainly the 2009 was a packet of shocks and surprises. Interesting question and it shows how the fourth estate is able to be informative by way of improved communications. When we were threatened further by erratic monsoons and to fall back on reseves,the future of the people becomes panicky. Year 2009 astrologically was certainly a year of tumult and even though able to a Govt strong enough by way of numbers to deal nations problems.Astrologers were not too wayward in cautioning about the issues much earlier. Finally debilitated Mars,debilitated jupiter and saturns so journ in uttara nakshtra of sun are all good parameters to have the grasp.Further technicalities by way of koorma chakras and the revealations for the year ahead in mundane matters adds to eagerness to know how v r going conduct ourselves for building up better fortunes. With the unemployment and increased problems due to global financial crisis around Globe some thing for campus guys to involve. Share Markets too creat tension for making any bold forecaste.This activity is on the move awaiting for Christmas and New Year Cheer.In the absence of Investments for promoting Infrastructure and only the arms build up and nuclear agreements,there is little for the takers. Finally attention turns to one's own activities leading to unrest.We need only to find will there be better Obamas for every country,who will be able to handle youth power and make them busy. Year 2010 eventful that way to give respite to Administrators/Heads of Nations to promise better future. East India rulers have always preferred the convenience in divide and rule.Germans History of demolition of Berlin Wall on experimental basis has only led to insecurity. The country certainly will have better guidance to promote the economic conditions and take us technologically further reaches to be a Global power. 1.Back issues of EST and AM's in the context of Telengana conveyed that AP might get divided and time after Nov 2009.Not surprisingly as a birth daygift.This involved struggle of 5 decades and 3-4 Govts have passed on the baton.Thanks to Cancer Mars. 2.Earlier uneventful tenure of another major politically party coolly increased number of states by bifurcation of bigger states in Hindi Belt.hesitant to cross Vindhyas and do something as these people r closer to Colombo 3.Now there is always room for the same language speaking people have opportunity to increase the number of political fortunes and decide the future of deprived. 4.AStrological work outs and eclipses always suggest for constitutional crises whether through the Govt now in the seat or the next one awaiting for better fortunes. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services)  --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote: Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag Telengana and seperative issues Thursday, December 10, 2009, 3:08 PM  Dear Vinay ji, We see today lot of commotion regarding seperate state of Telengana, for & against it. Similar issues has croped up in North-eastern states for Gurkha land etc. Since you have worked with koorma chakras and other methods on Mundane matters, what is opinion on these issues?. What if other states also demand split ups, whatever be the political reason?. It looks like we are going back to pre-british periods with so many small states (villages) each ruled by their own kings & fighting then for supremancy-now on language and other matters.     regards  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Dear Vinay ji, //Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra.// as the center has anounced about the spit, it doesn't matter now. But do you think, Astrologicaly, it will be beneficial for the state as well as Bharat?  regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ VJha <vinayjhaa16 Fri, December 11, 2009 10:18:17 AM Re: Telengana and seperative issues  Merucentric World Chart (PRITHVI-CHAKRA) for 2009-10 (Year beginning with Mesha Samkraanti) : D1: (1) India falls in 6th bhaava : bad. (2) Lord Venus is highly inauspicious by dint of being lord of 6th & 11th houses. (3) Mars is defeated by Venus in planetary war, hence the houses of Mars (5, 12) come in control of Venus. Both sit in 3rd house. (4) Both Venus and Mars are under firm control of Saturn (Bhaavesh-drishti of 57') : Saturn is lord of 2,3 and sits in 9th house of its bitter enemy Sun. Hence, Saturn is the final lord of India. Saturn is auspicious in 9th house, but very weak due to being in bitter enemy's house. But Saturn is Maarakesh and in Sarvatobhadra its Vedha is for L, M letters. Rahu in 2nd houses also pierces L. Hence, many bomb blasts in Lahore this year. D9: Saturn is exalted in 3rd house, and lord of 6th & 7th houses. Hence, combination of D1 and D9 is good for India in spite of having troubles from 6th house. DESHA-CHAKRA or national chart of India from Vidisha : Saturn governing Venus and Venus governing Mars as above. Saturn, lord of 1 & 2, sits in bitter enemy Sun's house in 8th while Venus and Mars sit in 2nd house. 8th house is towards NW, hence violence in that quarter , mainly in Pakistan. But 2nd house contains good deal of coastal andhra and eastern Telangana, causing violence by naxalites or linguistic strife & c & c. Rest of Telangana is in lagna, lorded by Saturn. It will be better than 2nd house but violence will ensue on account of Saturn sitting in bitter enemy 8th house. Nakshatra-Chart for Vishaakhaa (Desha-chakra) Dec 3-16,2009 : Saturn lord of 2 & 3 in which entire Andhra Pradesh lies, and Saturn sits in 10th house making Parivartan-yoga (mutual lordship) with Rahu in 2nd. Saturn in 10th house of national chart creates political problems for the ruling party in the regions afflicted by Saturn. Third level of Chakra is Pradesh-Chakra. When made from Hyderabad, it gives Saturn as lord of 1,2 and sitting in 8th house in the annual Mesha kundali. In Jyeshthaa chart (Dec 3-16, 2009), Saturn is in 10th as lord of 2 & 3 having parivartana relation with Rahu in 2nd. Chart drawn on the map of Andhra Pradesh can give sectoral predictions. For instance, 6th house is in NE direction from Hyderabad and will witness relatively more strife. 12th house SW from Hyderabad will do same. Ketu in 6th house with debilitated Mars has Vedha of Hyderabad's H letter. Telangana's T was pierced by Mercury : Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra. Most troublesome Tithi is 9 and 14. Other divisionals have been incorporated only in Merucentric charts im my softwares, in Desha and Pradesha chakras only D1 results are given presently. I have to complete these programs by including other divisionals which sometimes become more important than D1 (eg, when the effective planet is exalted or in bad houses in D9). 2nd house influences language, and affliction of 2nd house by Saturn in these charts suggests linguistic strife. Daily carts can give us day to day developments at all 7 levels of chakras. -VJ ============ ========= = ==== , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Vinay ji, > > We see today lot of commotion regarding seperate state of Telengana, for & against it. Similar issues has croped up in North-eastern states for Gurkha land etc. > > Since you have worked with koorma chakras and other methods on Mundane matters, what is opinion on these issues?. > > What if other states also demand split ups, whatever be the political reason?. > > It looks like we are going back to pre-british periods with so many small states (villages) each ruled by their own kings & fighting then for supremancy-now on language and other matters. > >     > regards >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Suresh Ji, My friends in North Bihar are in favour of Mithila State on the basis of language. Maithili is the oldest modern Aryan language and has a rich history. I also sympathized with this movement, but for different reasons. Mithils has been treated as a colony by the elite at Patna, Delhi, Mumbai & c who needed a cheap source of labour, and therefore this once rich region has been deliberately converted into world's poorest pocket. My district had six factories in British period, but now all are closed. The biggest factory here was a private paper mill which was wrongly nationalized and then its machinery was shifted to the parliamentary constituency of late President Fakhruddin Ali Ahmad for giving employment to the illegal refugees from Bangladesh there. Similarly, World Bank's forst project for any developing nation was Kosi High Dam (Lord Wavell had initiated this project), but the allotted funds rotted for 7 years after independence, after which these funds were used to construct the Bhakhra Nangal High Dam which changed the landscape of Punjab & c. Six decades of step-motherly treatment by all the governments has made the term " Bihari " an abuse in this country. Even in British period, Bihar was not so under-developed, although the process had been initiated by the British. Telangana has experienced a similar treatment, although to a lesser extent, mainly because of a large megalopolis in it. Issues of under development are utilized by casteist and linguist chauvinists to divide India. Although not associated with any state, Urdu has flourished in independent India better than many languages on whose basis states have been created. The concept of linguistic nationalism is a creation of Europe, although linguistic regions (janapadas) existed in India from ancient times. But these janapadas were never an obstacle to nationalism. when faced with Macedonian threat, entire India stood as one nation under the leadership of Chanakya and chandragupta. It is foolish to associate nationalism with language in India. Vyaasa Ji defined Bhaarata not as a linguistic or geigraphical entiry, but as " a Tree whose leaves and fruits are Dharma and Moksha " . Hence, India is a distinct culture, comprising of many languages, castes, races, creeds, but all welded together by Eternal or Sanaatana Dharma. This Dharma is Eternal, and so is that land which bears it. This year's charts show many problems which will be sorted out amicably later : India will show its worth after April 2012. -VJ ======================= === , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Dear Vinay ji, > > //Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra.// > > as the center has anounced about the spit, it doesn't matter now. But do you think, Astrologicaly, it will be beneficial for the state as well as Bharat? > > Â regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ________________________________ > VJha <vinayjhaa16 > > Fri, December 11, 2009 10:18:17 AM > Re: Telengana and seperative issues > > Â > Merucentric World Chart (PRITHVI-CHAKRA) for 2009-10 (Year beginning with Mesha Samkraanti) : > > D1: > > (1) India falls in 6th bhaava : bad. > (2) Lord Venus is highly inauspicious by dint of being lord of 6th & 11th houses. > (3) Mars is defeated by Venus in planetary war, hence the houses of Mars (5, 12) come in control of Venus. Both sit in 3rd house. > (4) Both Venus and Mars are under firm control of Saturn (Bhaavesh-drishti of 57') : Saturn is lord of 2,3 and sits in 9th house of its bitter enemy Sun. Hence, Saturn is the final lord of India. > > Saturn is auspicious in 9th house, but very weak due to being in bitter enemy's house. But Saturn is Maarakesh and in Sarvatobhadra its Vedha is for L, M letters. Rahu in 2nd houses also pierces L. Hence, many bomb blasts in Lahore this year. > > D9: > > Saturn is exalted in 3rd house, and lord of 6th & 7th houses. > > Hence, combination of D1 and D9 is good for India in spite of having troubles from 6th house. > > DESHA-CHAKRA or national chart of India from Vidisha : > > Saturn governing Venus and Venus governing Mars as above. Saturn, lord of 1 & 2, sits in bitter enemy Sun's house in 8th while Venus and Mars sit in 2nd house. 8th house is towards NW, hence violence in that quarter , mainly in Pakistan. But 2nd house contains good deal of coastal andhra and eastern Telangana, causing violence by naxalites or linguistic strife & c & c. Rest of Telangana is in lagna, lorded by Saturn. It will be better than 2nd house but violence will ensue on account of Saturn sitting in bitter enemy 8th house. > > Nakshatra-Chart for Vishaakhaa (Desha-chakra) Dec 3-16,2009 : > > Saturn lord of 2 & 3 in which entire Andhra Pradesh lies, and Saturn sits in 10th house making Parivartan-yoga (mutual lordship) with Rahu in 2nd. Saturn in 10th house of national chart creates political problems for the ruling party in the regions afflicted by Saturn. > > Third level of Chakra is Pradesh-Chakra. When made from Hyderabad, it gives Saturn as lord of 1,2 and sitting in 8th house in the annual Mesha kundali. In Jyeshthaa chart (Dec 3-16, 2009), Saturn is in 10th as lord of 2 & 3 having parivartana relation with Rahu in 2nd. Chart drawn on the map of Andhra Pradesh can give sectoral predictions. For instance, 6th house is in NE direction from Hyderabad and will witness relatively more strife. 12th house SW from Hyderabad will do same. Ketu in 6th house with debilitated Mars has Vedha of Hyderabad's H letter. Telangana's T was pierced by Mercury : Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra. Most troublesome Tithi is 9 and 14. > > Other divisionals have been incorporated only in Merucentric charts im my softwares, in Desha and Pradesha chakras only D1 results are given presently. I have to complete these programs by including other divisionals which sometimes become more important than D1 (eg, when the effective planet is exalted or in bad houses in D9). > > 2nd house influences language, and affliction of 2nd house by Saturn in these charts suggests linguistic strife. > > Daily carts can give us day to day developments at all 7 levels of chakras. > > -VJ > ============ ========= = ==== > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Vinay ji, > > > > We see today lot of commotion regarding seperate state of Telengana, for & against it. Similar issues has croped up in North-eastern states for Gurkha land etc. > > > > Since you have worked with koorma chakras and other methods on Mundane matters, what is opinion on these issues?. > > > > What if other states also demand split ups, whatever be the political reason?. > > > > It looks like we are going back to pre-british periods with so many small states (villages)Â each ruled by their own kings & fighting then for supremancy-now on language and other matters. > > > > Â Â Â Â > > regards > > Â A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Dear Vinay ji, The history you have portraid is very much relavent. However, the times have changed and today we can see in most cases (there could be genuine reasons), the perpertrators of these movements have only vested interests and mostly instigate the public support and use it to serve their vested interests. Once they gain popularity and gain power, they end being the biggest exploiters of the public. For the same reason, we cannot compare the far anceint times and the then conditions with that todays even in our dreams. Let us pray that your words come true regarding India showing its worthiness after 2012.    regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ VJha <vinayjhaa16 Fri, December 11, 2009 8:53:51 PM Re: Telengana and seperative issues  Suresh Ji, My friends in North Bihar are in favour of Mithila State on the basis of language. Maithili is the oldest modern Aryan language and has a rich history. I also sympathized with this movement, but for different reasons. Mithils has been treated as a colony by the elite at Patna, Delhi, Mumbai & c who needed a cheap source of labour, and therefore this once rich region has been deliberately converted into world's poorest pocket. My district had six factories in British period, but now all are closed. The biggest factory here was a private paper mill which was wrongly nationalized and then its machinery was shifted to the parliamentary constituency of late President Fakhruddin Ali Ahmad for giving employment to the illegal refugees from Bangladesh there. Similarly, World Bank's forst project for any developing nation was Kosi High Dam (Lord Wavell had initiated this project), but the allotted funds rotted for 7 years after independence, after which these funds were used to construct the Bhakhra Nangal High Dam which changed the landscape of Punjab & c. Six decades of step-motherly treatment by all the governments has made the term " Bihari " an abuse in this country. Even in British period, Bihar was not so under-developed, although the process had been initiated by the British. Telangana has experienced a similar treatment, although to a lesser extent, mainly because of a large megalopolis in it. Issues of under development are utilized by casteist and linguist chauvinists to divide India. Although not associated with any state, Urdu has flourished in independent India better than many languages on whose basis states have been created. The concept of linguistic nationalism is a creation of Europe, although linguistic regions (janapadas) existed in India from ancient times. But these janapadas were never an obstacle to nationalism. when faced with Macedonian threat, entire India stood as one nation under the leadership of Chanakya and chandragupta. It is foolish to associate nationalism with language in India. Vyaasa Ji defined Bhaarata not as a linguistic or geigraphical entiry, but as " a Tree whose leaves and fruits are Dharma and Moksha " . Hence, India is a distinct culture, comprising of many languages, castes, races, creeds, but all welded together by Eternal or Sanaatana Dharma. This Dharma is Eternal, and so is that land which bears it. This year's charts show many problems which will be sorted out amicably later : India will show its worth after April 2012. -VJ ============ ========= == === , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Vinay ji, > > //Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra.// > > as the center has anounced about the spit, it doesn't matter now. But do you think, Astrologicaly, it will be beneficial for the state as well as Bharat? > >  regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > VJha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> > > Fri, December 11, 2009 10:18:17 AM > Re: Telengana and seperative issues > >  > Merucentric World Chart (PRITHVI-CHAKRA) for 2009-10 (Year beginning with Mesha Samkraanti) : > > D1: > > (1) India falls in 6th bhaava : bad. > (2) Lord Venus is highly inauspicious by dint of being lord of 6th & 11th houses. > (3) Mars is defeated by Venus in planetary war, hence the houses of Mars (5, 12) come in control of Venus. Both sit in 3rd house. > (4) Both Venus and Mars are under firm control of Saturn (Bhaavesh-drishti of 57') : Saturn is lord of 2,3 and sits in 9th house of its bitter enemy Sun. Hence, Saturn is the final lord of India. > > Saturn is auspicious in 9th house, but very weak due to being in bitter enemy's house. But Saturn is Maarakesh and in Sarvatobhadra its Vedha is for L, M letters. Rahu in 2nd houses also pierces L. Hence, many bomb blasts in Lahore this year. > > D9: > > Saturn is exalted in 3rd house, and lord of 6th & 7th houses. > > Hence, combination of D1 and D9 is good for India in spite of having troubles from 6th house. > > DESHA-CHAKRA or national chart of India from Vidisha : > > Saturn governing Venus and Venus governing Mars as above. Saturn, lord of 1 & 2, sits in bitter enemy Sun's house in 8th while Venus and Mars sit in 2nd house. 8th house is towards NW, hence violence in that quarter , mainly in Pakistan. But 2nd house contains good deal of coastal andhra and eastern Telangana, causing violence by naxalites or linguistic strife & c & c. Rest of Telangana is in lagna, lorded by Saturn. It will be better than 2nd house but violence will ensue on account of Saturn sitting in bitter enemy 8th house. > > Nakshatra-Chart for Vishaakhaa (Desha-chakra) Dec 3-16,2009 : > > Saturn lord of 2 & 3 in which entire Andhra Pradesh lies, and Saturn sits in 10th house making Parivartan-yoga (mutual lordship) with Rahu in 2nd. Saturn in 10th house of national chart creates political problems for the ruling party in the regions afflicted by Saturn. > > Third level of Chakra is Pradesh-Chakra. When made from Hyderabad, it gives Saturn as lord of 1,2 and sitting in 8th house in the annual Mesha kundali. In Jyeshthaa chart (Dec 3-16, 2009), Saturn is in 10th as lord of 2 & 3 having parivartana relation with Rahu in 2nd. Chart drawn on the map of Andhra Pradesh can give sectoral predictions. For instance, 6th house is in NE direction from Hyderabad and will witness relatively more strife. 12th house SW from Hyderabad will do same. Ketu in 6th house with debilitated Mars has Vedha of Hyderabad's H letter. Telangana's T was pierced by Mercury : Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra. Most troublesome Tithi is 9 and 14. > > Other divisionals have been incorporated only in Merucentric charts im my softwares, in Desha and Pradesha chakras only D1 results are given presently. I have to complete these programs by including other divisionals which sometimes become more important than D1 (eg, when the effective planet is exalted or in bad houses in D9). > > 2nd house influences language, and affliction of 2nd house by Saturn in these charts suggests linguistic strife. > > Daily carts can give us day to day developments at all 7 levels of chakras. > > -VJ > ============ ========= = ==== > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Vinay ji, > > > > We see today lot of commotion regarding seperate state of Telengana, for & against it. Similar issues has croped up in North-eastern states for Gurkha land etc. > > > > Since you have worked with koorma chakras and other methods on Mundane matters, what is opinion on these issues?. > > > > What if other states also demand split ups, whatever be the political reason?. > > > > It looks like we are going back to pre-british periods with so many small states (villages) each ruled by their own kings & fighting then for supremancy-now on language and other matters. > > > >     > > regards > >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Dear Friends, Urgency of a sepaerate telagana has to be percieved from long standing fight for 50 years. Today India faces the need for economic upliftment and peopl now look for ways and means to be in jobs/employment that to depend on natures vagaries. In the proces Bundelkhand,coorg,Gorgaland.Mithilesh and saurashtra have become prominent. Nawabi food and Nawabi grace and their liking for fine arts makes Hyd a destination in Deccan Plateau a lovable region.Close to Mumbai,chennai and Banglore it has become a very strong economic and trade center. Courtesty and respect extended and their Mushairaa and Ghazal that have link to Ommar Khayyam are all worth to be experience to make Hyd as exclusive of Telangana and Andhra. It presents a topology similar to Ranchi where through out the year the climate is pleasent.no body feels the coastal irritations. with this historical prominence,Hyderabad remained independent of of othe rpalces even till date. We all know that for every 100 miles the Bihar the dialect changes.If north Bihar speak Bhogpuri,south Bihar speaks a dialect mix of Bengal and Bhojpuri.AS we proceed towrds Muzaffarpur and towrds Gorakh pur the language undergoes change.Mithilesh a pocket has wise people,with knowledge under the propogation of Rajas.A seperate state certainly reduces feudalistic dominance.People feel libeartion or a kind of Ajadi.Even some of the land lords having say in Biahar Mishra Ji/s pandeys have to keep low profile.But shrewed and highly litterate.d Mithilesh dominated by dminant brahmin community is certainly more eductaed and with greener pastures.with dwindling influence of mythhili brahmins,importance of other castes and political significance has gained. After formation of Jarkhand south of Bihar,the problems Bihar to some extent were taken care. 2.Telegana represents arid region extending upto Nagpur via Adilabad.A dense forest and people have no proper rains and water and staple food to eat.Telanagan significance assumed importance after Megapolis Hyderbad y2k development and is till under development.Here the influnce of people from coastal Andhra and others are dominant development of Irrigation Projects on Godavari and Krishna rivers. Historical reasons with Telangana region happened to be under the rulership of kaktiya.Hyderabad as a sepaerate state contagious to Karnataka and to som extent Marathwada regions adjacent to palri Baidyanath. 3.Nizam as a ruler propped up peeshwas,madhwa brahmins and othe kannadigas.People from telengana could enjoy any share in his riches,as Hindus. Finally,economic imbalance in the arid zone,litteracy and garibi has only attracted neighbouring Naxals and Maos from Orissa.South Bihar and south west bengal.The prominent communism to some extent is to get procted from feudal people. Under the roof of Samaikya Andhra,and with their fields started giving yield develpment was initiated.Yet regional parties mainly Telugu desam did not pay large attention except devlop IT to help rich coastal Andhra Pradesh pople mainly Chowdaries,Naidoos and reddys. THis inequality was constently exposed.Many formulas did not give themeconomic idependence. If telanaga attains statehood gets,w/o Hyderbad,it will be like Chattisghrah state maximum.So Hyderabad is now a major educational city with 190 engg colleges caters to Reddy; from Rayal seema and Coastal chowdaries.It provides jobs and gives scope to earn by any choicest means. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services)  --- On Fri, 12/11/09, VJha <vinayjhaa16 wrote: VJha <vinayjhaa16 Re: Telengana and seperative issues Friday, December 11, 2009, 10:23 AM  Suresh Ji, My friends in North Bihar are in favour of Mithila State on the basis of language. Maithili is the oldest modern Aryan language and has a rich history. I also sympathized with this movement, but for different reasons. Mithils has been treated as a colony by the elite at Patna, Delhi, Mumbai & c who needed a cheap source of labour, and therefore this once rich region has been deliberately converted into world's poorest pocket. My district had six factories in British period, but now all are closed. The biggest factory here was a private paper mill which was wrongly nationalized and then its machinery was shifted to the parliamentary constituency of late President Fakhruddin Ali Ahmad for giving employment to the illegal refugees from Bangladesh there. Similarly, World Bank's forst project for any developing nation was Kosi High Dam (Lord Wavell had initiated this project), but the allotted funds rotted for 7 years after independence, after which these funds were used to construct the Bhakhra Nangal High Dam which changed the landscape of Punjab & c. Six decades of step-motherly treatment by all the governments has made the term " Bihari " an abuse in this country. Even in British period, Bihar was not so under-developed, although the process had been initiated by the British. Telangana has experienced a similar treatment, although to a lesser extent, mainly because of a large megalopolis in it. Issues of under development are utilized by casteist and linguist chauvinists to divide India. Although not associated with any state, Urdu has flourished in independent India better than many languages on whose basis states have been created. The concept of linguistic nationalism is a creation of Europe, although linguistic regions (janapadas) existed in India from ancient times. But these janapadas were never an obstacle to nationalism. when faced with Macedonian threat, entire India stood as one nation under the leadership of Chanakya and chandragupta. It is foolish to associate nationalism with language in India. Vyaasa Ji defined Bhaarata not as a linguistic or geigraphical entiry, but as " a Tree whose leaves and fruits are Dharma and Moksha " . Hence, India is a distinct culture, comprising of many languages, castes, races, creeds, but all welded together by Eternal or Sanaatana Dharma. This Dharma is Eternal, and so is that land which bears it. This year's charts show many problems which will be sorted out amicably later : India will show its worth after April 2012. -VJ ============ ========= == === , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Vinay ji, > > //Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra.// > > as the center has anounced about the spit, it doesn't matter now. But do you think, Astrologicaly, it will be beneficial for the state as well as Bharat? > >  regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > VJha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> > > Fri, December 11, 2009 10:18:17 AM > Re: Telengana and seperative issues > >  > Merucentric World Chart (PRITHVI-CHAKRA) for 2009-10 (Year beginning with Mesha Samkraanti) : > > D1: > > (1) India falls in 6th bhaava : bad. > (2) Lord Venus is highly inauspicious by dint of being lord of 6th & 11th houses. > (3) Mars is defeated by Venus in planetary war, hence the houses of Mars (5, 12) come in control of Venus. Both sit in 3rd house. > (4) Both Venus and Mars are under firm control of Saturn (Bhaavesh-drishti of 57') : Saturn is lord of 2,3 and sits in 9th house of its bitter enemy Sun. Hence, Saturn is the final lord of India. > > Saturn is auspicious in 9th house, but very weak due to being in bitter enemy's house. But Saturn is Maarakesh and in Sarvatobhadra its Vedha is for L, M letters. Rahu in 2nd houses also pierces L. Hence, many bomb blasts in Lahore this year. > > D9: > > Saturn is exalted in 3rd house, and lord of 6th & 7th houses. > > Hence, combination of D1 and D9 is good for India in spite of having troubles from 6th house. > > DESHA-CHAKRA or national chart of India from Vidisha : > > Saturn governing Venus and Venus governing Mars as above. Saturn, lord of 1 & 2, sits in bitter enemy Sun's house in 8th while Venus and Mars sit in 2nd house. 8th house is towards NW, hence violence in that quarter , mainly in Pakistan. But 2nd house contains good deal of coastal andhra and eastern Telangana, causing violence by naxalites or linguistic strife & c & c. Rest of Telangana is in lagna, lorded by Saturn. It will be better than 2nd house but violence will ensue on account of Saturn sitting in bitter enemy 8th house. > > Nakshatra-Chart for Vishaakhaa (Desha-chakra) Dec 3-16,2009 : > > Saturn lord of 2 & 3 in which entire Andhra Pradesh lies, and Saturn sits in 10th house making Parivartan-yoga (mutual lordship) with Rahu in 2nd. Saturn in 10th house of national chart creates political problems for the ruling party in the regions afflicted by Saturn. > > Third level of Chakra is Pradesh-Chakra. When made from Hyderabad, it gives Saturn as lord of 1,2 and sitting in 8th house in the annual Mesha kundali. In Jyeshthaa chart (Dec 3-16, 2009), Saturn is in 10th as lord of 2 & 3 having parivartana relation with Rahu in 2nd. Chart drawn on the map of Andhra Pradesh can give sectoral predictions. For instance, 6th house is in NE direction from Hyderabad and will witness relatively more strife. 12th house SW from Hyderabad will do same. Ketu in 6th house with debilitated Mars has Vedha of Hyderabad's H letter. Telangana's T was pierced by Mercury : Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra. Most troublesome Tithi is 9 and 14. > > Other divisionals have been incorporated only in Merucentric charts im my softwares, in Desha and Pradesha chakras only D1 results are given presently. I have to complete these programs by including other divisionals which sometimes become more important than D1 (eg, when the effective planet is exalted or in bad houses in D9). > > 2nd house influences language, and affliction of 2nd house by Saturn in these charts suggests linguistic strife. > > Daily carts can give us day to day developments at all 7 levels of chakras. > > -VJ > ============ ========= = ==== > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Vinay ji, > > > > We see today lot of commotion regarding seperate state of Telengana, for & against it. Similar issues has croped up in North-eastern states for Gurkha land etc. > > > > Since you have worked with koorma chakras and other methods on Mundane matters, what is opinion on these issues?. > > > > What if other states also demand split ups, whatever be the political reason?. > > > > It looks like we are going back to pre-british periods with so many small states (villages) each ruled by their own kings & fighting then for supremancy-now on language and other matters. > > > >     > > regards > >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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