Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Dear Suresh Babu ji, Krishna ji, members, assuming the anouncement was made on dec 10 MN say 00.01 hrs delhi sIMHA LAGNA 23 DEG 01 RISES CHANDRA IS 5 DEG kANYA Well it seems to be a non-starter in the first place with sani+chandra together delay can be inevitable isn't it in the 2nd house a family squabble with 12th lord chandra and 6th, 7th lord sani away by 6 deg diff Lagna lord is with sukra the 10th lord , 10th sukra is also cumbust as well. so will it fructify? sukra is in the 3rd in D9 and ene,my sign lAGNA LORD RAVI IS IN 5th in D9 with chandra+Kuja Guru has 4/25 Bindus in Makara and San with 4/31 in Kanya is with chandra in gochara the dasa is of ravi who is in the 4th traditionally speaking all major conflicts had taken place with rah-ketu in Vrishabha-vrischika axis so till then this can brew at best 47 Partition into India, pak 56 states break up, 65 Indo-pak war, 74-75 emergency, 84 indira gandhi assination and the sikh--hindu fissures. 82-93 the ayodhya movement, mumbai blasts 2002 had plenty of them 2011-12 can have a lot more if properly not dealt with there is need to have small states let it be in size, than divisive limits similarly river bank areas must be left for agriculture alone no industires that pollute them with no rivers where will we get power from, get food, grains etc only dry districts must be allowed industires thus india prospers most industrial revolutions have killed rivers rivers must unite us, not divides us. food ., hunger, opportunities can be shared in proper way than on language basis nehru did a grave mistake so has sonia now prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 ________________________________ Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag Fri, December 11, 2009 11:50:18 AM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues Dear Vinay ji, //Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra.// as the center has anounced about the spit, it doesn't matter now. But do you think, Astrologicaly, it will be beneficial for the state as well as Bharat? regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ VJha <vinayjhaa16@ > Fri, December 11, 2009 10:18:17 AM Re: Telengana and seperative issues Merucentric World Chart (PRITHVI-CHAKRA) for 2009-10 (Year beginning with Mesha Samkraanti) : D1: (1) India falls in 6th bhaava : bad. (2) Lord Venus is highly inauspicious by dint of being lord of 6th & 11th houses. (3) Mars is defeated by Venus in planetary war, hence the houses of Mars (5, 12) come in control of Venus. Both sit in 3rd house. (4) Both Venus and Mars are under firm control of Saturn (Bhaavesh-drishti of 57') : Saturn is lord of 2,3 and sits in 9th house of its bitter enemy Sun. Hence, Saturn is the final lord of India. Saturn is auspicious in 9th house, but very weak due to being in bitter enemy's house. But Saturn is Maarakesh and in Sarvatobhadra its Vedha is for L, M letters. Rahu in 2nd houses also pierces L. Hence, many bomb blasts in Lahore this year. D9: Saturn is exalted in 3rd house, and lord of 6th & 7th houses. Hence, combination of D1 and D9 is good for India in spite of having troubles from 6th house. DESHA-CHAKRA or national chart of India from Vidisha : Saturn governing Venus and Venus governing Mars as above. Saturn, lord of 1 & 2, sits in bitter enemy Sun's house in 8th while Venus and Mars sit in 2nd house. 8th house is towards NW, hence violence in that quarter , mainly in Pakistan. But 2nd house contains good deal of coastal andhra and eastern Telangana, causing violence by naxalites or linguistic strife & c & c. Rest of Telangana is in lagna, lorded by Saturn. It will be better than 2nd house but violence will ensue on account of Saturn sitting in bitter enemy 8th house. Nakshatra-Chart for Vishaakhaa (Desha-chakra) Dec 3-16,2009 : Saturn lord of 2 & 3 in which entire Andhra Pradesh lies, and Saturn sits in 10th house making Parivartan-yoga (mutual lordship) with Rahu in 2nd. Saturn in 10th house of national chart creates political problems for the ruling party in the regions afflicted by Saturn. Third level of Chakra is Pradesh-Chakra. When made from Hyderabad, it gives Saturn as lord of 1,2 and sitting in 8th house in the annual Mesha kundali. In Jyeshthaa chart (Dec 3-16, 2009), Saturn is in 10th as lord of 2 & 3 having parivartana relation with Rahu in 2nd. Chart drawn on the map of Andhra Pradesh can give sectoral predictions. For instance, 6th house is in NE direction from Hyderabad and will witness relatively more strife. 12th house SW from Hyderabad will do same. Ketu in 6th house with debilitated Mars has Vedha of Hyderabad's H letter. Telangana's T was pierced by Mercury : Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra. Most troublesome Tithi is 9 and 14. Other divisionals have been incorporated only in Merucentric charts im my softwares, in Desha and Pradesha chakras only D1 results are given presently. I have to complete these programs by including other divisionals which sometimes become more important than D1 (eg, when the effective planet is exalted or in bad houses in D9). 2nd house influences language, and affliction of 2nd house by Saturn in these charts suggests linguistic strife. Daily carts can give us day to day developments at all 7 levels of chakras. -VJ ============ ========= = ==== , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Vinay ji, > > We see today lot of commotion regarding seperate state of Telengana, for & against it. Similar issues has croped up in North-eastern states for Gurkha land etc. > > Since you have worked with koorma chakras and other methods on Mundane matters, what is opinion on these issues?. > > What if other states also demand split ups, whatever be the political reason?. > > It looks like we are going back to pre-british periods with so many small states (villages) each ruled by their own kings & fighting then for supremancy-now on language and other matters. > > > regards > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Dear Sirs, My prashna chart made on 10th at 12.05P.M frustated me with moon and lagna lord saturn of kumbha in 8th.The dispositor Mercury with rahu in 11th in fiery sign.Mercury is ruled by ketu nakshtra moola4th in fiery sign.Rahu in sun's nakshtra of u.ashadha.The flare and flames. 2.Meaningful navamsa with suatrn in pisces a watery sign.with jupiter aspecting 5th from lagna Mercury in cancer. 3Rahu in Parliament 10th ruled by jupiter(In the navamsa) 4.Being a urdhvamukhi sign and fixed,the annoncement will be be adhered.In a months time the clarity of the issue will be known. 5.Poor un happy intellectuals rling 4th by ketu and 10th Rahu-politicians. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Â --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Friday, December 11, 2009, 1:46 AM Â Dear Suresh Babu ji, Krishna ji, members, assuming the anouncement was made on dec 10 MN say 00.01 hrs delhi sIMHA LAGNA 23 DEG 01 RISES CHANDRA IS 5 DEG kANYA Well it seems to be a non-starter in the first place with sani+chandra together delay can be inevitable isn't it in the 2nd house a family squabble with 12th lord chandra and 6th, 7th lord sani away by 6 deg diff Lagna lord is with sukra the 10th lord , 10th sukra is also cumbust as well. so will it fructify? sukra is in the 3rd in D9 and ene,my sign lAGNA LORD RAVI IS IN 5th in D9 with chandra+Kuja Guru has 4/25 Bindus in Makara and San with 4/31 in Kanya is with chandra in gochara the dasa is of ravi who is in the 4th traditionally speaking all major conflicts had taken place with rah-ketu in Vrishabha-vrischika axis so till then this can brew at best 47 Partition into India, pak 56 states break up, 65 Indo-pak war, 74-75 emergency, 84 indira gandhi assination and the sikh--hindu fissures. 82-93 the ayodhya movement, mumbai blasts 2002 had plenty of them 2011-12 can have a lot more if properly not dealt with there is need to have small states let it be in size, than divisive limits similarly river bank areas must be left for agriculture alone no industires that pollute them with no rivers where will we get power from, get food, grains etc only dry districts must be allowed industires thus india prospers most industrial revolutions have killed rivers rivers must unite us, not divides us. food ., hunger, opportunities can be shared in proper way than on language basis nehru did a grave mistake so has sonia now prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Fri, December 11, 2009 11:50:18 AM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues Dear Vinay ji, //Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra.// as the center has anounced about the spit, it doesn't matter now. But do you think, Astrologicaly, it will be beneficial for the state as well as Bharat? regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ VJha <vinayjhaa16@ > Fri, December 11, 2009 10:18:17 AM Re: Telengana and seperative issues Merucentric World Chart (PRITHVI-CHAKRA) for 2009-10 (Year beginning with Mesha Samkraanti) : D1: (1) India falls in 6th bhaava : bad. (2) Lord Venus is highly inauspicious by dint of being lord of 6th & 11th houses. (3) Mars is defeated by Venus in planetary war, hence the houses of Mars (5, 12) come in control of Venus. Both sit in 3rd house. (4) Both Venus and Mars are under firm control of Saturn (Bhaavesh-drishti of 57') : Saturn is lord of 2,3 and sits in 9th house of its bitter enemy Sun. Hence, Saturn is the final lord of India. Saturn is auspicious in 9th house, but very weak due to being in bitter enemy's house. But Saturn is Maarakesh and in Sarvatobhadra its Vedha is for L, M letters. Rahu in 2nd houses also pierces L. Hence, many bomb blasts in Lahore this year. D9: Saturn is exalted in 3rd house, and lord of 6th & 7th houses. Hence, combination of D1 and D9 is good for India in spite of having troubles from 6th house. DESHA-CHAKRA or national chart of India from Vidisha : Saturn governing Venus and Venus governing Mars as above. Saturn, lord of 1 & 2, sits in bitter enemy Sun's house in 8th while Venus and Mars sit in 2nd house. 8th house is towards NW, hence violence in that quarter , mainly in Pakistan. But 2nd house contains good deal of coastal andhra and eastern Telangana, causing violence by naxalites or linguistic strife & c & c. Rest of Telangana is in lagna, lorded by Saturn. It will be better than 2nd house but violence will ensue on account of Saturn sitting in bitter enemy 8th house. Nakshatra-Chart for Vishaakhaa (Desha-chakra) Dec 3-16,2009 : Saturn lord of 2 & 3 in which entire Andhra Pradesh lies, and Saturn sits in 10th house making Parivartan-yoga (mutual lordship) with Rahu in 2nd. Saturn in 10th house of national chart creates political problems for the ruling party in the regions afflicted by Saturn. Third level of Chakra is Pradesh-Chakra. When made from Hyderabad, it gives Saturn as lord of 1,2 and sitting in 8th house in the annual Mesha kundali. In Jyeshthaa chart (Dec 3-16, 2009), Saturn is in 10th as lord of 2 & 3 having parivartana relation with Rahu in 2nd. Chart drawn on the map of Andhra Pradesh can give sectoral predictions. For instance, 6th house is in NE direction from Hyderabad and will witness relatively more strife. 12th house SW from Hyderabad will do same. Ketu in 6th house with debilitated Mars has Vedha of Hyderabad's H letter. Telangana's T was pierced by Mercury : Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra. Most troublesome Tithi is 9 and 14. Other divisionals have been incorporated only in Merucentric charts im my softwares, in Desha and Pradesha chakras only D1 results are given presently. I have to complete these programs by including other divisionals which sometimes become more important than D1 (eg, when the effective planet is exalted or in bad houses in D9). 2nd house influences language, and affliction of 2nd house by Saturn in these charts suggests linguistic strife. Daily carts can give us day to day developments at all 7 levels of chakras. -VJ ============ ========= = ==== , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Vinay ji, > > We see today lot of commotion regarding seperate state of Telengana, for & against it. Similar issues has croped up in North-eastern states for Gurkha land etc. > > Since you have worked with koorma chakras and other methods on Mundane matters, what is opinion on these issues?. > > What if other states also demand split ups, whatever be the political reason?. > > It looks like we are going back to pre-british periods with so many small states (villages) each ruled by their own kings & fighting then for supremancy-now on language and other matters. > > > regards > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Sear Krishna ji, I am seeing a press confrence LIVE by rosiah the CM in which there wa a jiurnalist who has given the time [as a question] on the anouncement by PC the union home minister at 11.30 pm of 9th the lagna is same D9 lagna will change the lagna will be varagattomma , like rah also rest r a bit more unfavorable for a peaceful situation emerging in rav-bud between 12/2 to 20/12/10 as Bud-ket r in the 12th in D9 with ketu some conspiracy, interigue can not be ruled out. prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 ________________________________ Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 Fri, December 11, 2009 12:33:33 PM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Dear Sirs, My prashna chart made on 10th at 12.05P.M frustated me with moon and lagna lord saturn of kumbha in 8th.The dispositor Mercury with rahu in 11th in fiery sign.Mercury is ruled by ketu nakshtra moola4th in fiery sign.Rahu in sun's nakshtra of u.ashadha.The flare and flames. 2.Meaningful navamsa with suatrn in pisces a watery sign.with jupiter aspecting 5th from lagna Mercury in cancer. 3Rahu in Parliament 10th ruled by jupiter(In the navamsa) 4.Being a urdhvamukhi sign and fixed,the annoncement will be be adhered.In a months time the clarity of the issue will be known. 5.Poor un happy intellectuals rling 4th by ketu and 10th Rahu-politicians. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Friday, December 11, 2009, 1:46 AM Dear Suresh Babu ji, Krishna ji, members, assuming the anouncement was made on dec 10 MN say 00.01 hrs delhi sIMHA LAGNA 23 DEG 01 RISES CHANDRA IS 5 DEG kANYA Well it seems to be a non-starter in the first place with sani+chandra together delay can be inevitable isn't it in the 2nd house a family squabble with 12th lord chandra and 6th, 7th lord sani away by 6 deg diff Lagna lord is with sukra the 10th lord , 10th sukra is also cumbust as well. so will it fructify? sukra is in the 3rd in D9 and ene,my sign lAGNA LORD RAVI IS IN 5th in D9 with chandra+Kuja Guru has 4/25 Bindus in Makara and San with 4/31 in Kanya is with chandra in gochara the dasa is of ravi who is in the 4th traditionally speaking all major conflicts had taken place with rah-ketu in Vrishabha-vrischika axis so till then this can brew at best 47 Partition into India, pak 56 states break up, 65 Indo-pak war, 74-75 emergency, 84 indira gandhi assination and the sikh--hindu fissures. 82-93 the ayodhya movement, mumbai blasts 2002 had plenty of them 2011-12 can have a lot more if properly not dealt with there is need to have small states let it be in size, than divisive limits similarly river bank areas must be left for agriculture alone no industires that pollute them with no rivers where will we get power from, get food, grains etc only dry districts must be allowed industires thus india prospers most industrial revolutions have killed rivers rivers must unite us, not divides us. food ., hunger, opportunities can be shared in proper way than on language basis nehru did a grave mistake so has sonia now prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Fri, December 11, 2009 11:50:18 AM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues Dear Vinay ji, //Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra.// as the center has anounced about the spit, it doesn't matter now. But do you think, Astrologicaly, it will be beneficial for the state as well as Bharat? regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ VJha <vinayjhaa16@ > Fri, December 11, 2009 10:18:17 AM Re: Telengana and seperative issues Merucentric World Chart (PRITHVI-CHAKRA) for 2009-10 (Year beginning with Mesha Samkraanti) : D1: (1) India falls in 6th bhaava : bad. (2) Lord Venus is highly inauspicious by dint of being lord of 6th & 11th houses. (3) Mars is defeated by Venus in planetary war, hence the houses of Mars (5, 12) come in control of Venus. Both sit in 3rd house. (4) Both Venus and Mars are under firm control of Saturn (Bhaavesh-drishti of 57') : Saturn is lord of 2,3 and sits in 9th house of its bitter enemy Sun. Hence, Saturn is the final lord of India. Saturn is auspicious in 9th house, but very weak due to being in bitter enemy's house. But Saturn is Maarakesh and in Sarvatobhadra its Vedha is for L, M letters. Rahu in 2nd houses also pierces L. Hence, many bomb blasts in Lahore this year. D9: Saturn is exalted in 3rd house, and lord of 6th & 7th houses. Hence, combination of D1 and D9 is good for India in spite of having troubles from 6th house. DESHA-CHAKRA or national chart of India from Vidisha : Saturn governing Venus and Venus governing Mars as above. Saturn, lord of 1 & 2, sits in bitter enemy Sun's house in 8th while Venus and Mars sit in 2nd house. 8th house is towards NW, hence violence in that quarter , mainly in Pakistan. But 2nd house contains good deal of coastal andhra and eastern Telangana, causing violence by naxalites or linguistic strife & c & c. Rest of Telangana is in lagna, lorded by Saturn. It will be better than 2nd house but violence will ensue on account of Saturn sitting in bitter enemy 8th house. Nakshatra-Chart for Vishaakhaa (Desha-chakra) Dec 3-16,2009 : Saturn lord of 2 & 3 in which entire Andhra Pradesh lies, and Saturn sits in 10th house making Parivartan-yoga (mutual lordship) with Rahu in 2nd. Saturn in 10th house of national chart creates political problems for the ruling party in the regions afflicted by Saturn. Third level of Chakra is Pradesh-Chakra. When made from Hyderabad, it gives Saturn as lord of 1,2 and sitting in 8th house in the annual Mesha kundali. In Jyeshthaa chart (Dec 3-16, 2009), Saturn is in 10th as lord of 2 & 3 having parivartana relation with Rahu in 2nd. Chart drawn on the map of Andhra Pradesh can give sectoral predictions. For instance, 6th house is in NE direction from Hyderabad and will witness relatively more strife. 12th house SW from Hyderabad will do same. Ketu in 6th house with debilitated Mars has Vedha of Hyderabad's H letter. Telangana's T was pierced by Mercury : Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra. Most troublesome Tithi is 9 and 14. Other divisionals have been incorporated only in Merucentric charts im my softwares, in Desha and Pradesha chakras only D1 results are given presently. I have to complete these programs by including other divisionals which sometimes become more important than D1 (eg, when the effective planet is exalted or in bad houses in D9). 2nd house influences language, and affliction of 2nd house by Saturn in these charts suggests linguistic strife. Daily carts can give us day to day developments at all 7 levels of chakras. -VJ ============ ========= = ==== , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Vinay ji, > > We see today lot of commotion regarding seperate state of Telengana, for & against it. Similar issues has croped up in North-eastern states for Gurkha land etc. > > Since you have worked with koorma chakras and other methods on Mundane matters, what is opinion on these issues?. > > What if other states also demand split ups, whatever be the political reason?. > > It looks like we are going back to pre-british periods with so many small states (villages) each ruled by their own kings & fighting then for supremancy-now on language and other matters. > > > regards > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Dear Prashant ji, If we assume this time, Then the dicision could only be a forced one and un-intelligent. 5th house is afflicted by rahu + Mercury (opurtunistic) and its lord is in the 6th aspected by a neecha 4th lord from the 12th(past history). Lagna though vargottama & its lord(Sun-govt) in kendra - 4th (state) is severly under pressure from Mars(4th lord) and the 7th lord(jana path -public). 7th house has navamsa of both sun & mars, fiery planets - which indicates flames glowing. Unfortunate is both indicate vested interests of state mechinery itself. The only consolation is after the balarishta (moon+ saturn) + rahu + mercury in its kendra, things might turn beneficial to some section of the public in a little way (aspect of jupiter) + navamsa of moon in the sign occupied by Jupiter.      Rahu seems to get most of the benefits atleast now. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar Fri, December 11, 2009 12:54:17 PM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12  Sear Krishna ji, I am seeing a press confrence LIVE by rosiah the CM in which there wa a jiurnalist who has given the time [as a question] on the anouncement by PC the union home minister at 11.30 pm of 9th the lagna is same D9 lagna will change the lagna will be varagattomma , like rah also rest r a bit more unfavorable for a peaceful situation emerging in rav-bud between 12/2 to 20/12/10 as Bud-ket r in the 12th in D9 with ketu some conspiracy, interigue can not be ruled out. prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > Fri, December 11, 2009 12:33:33 PM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Dear Sirs, My prashna chart made on 10th at 12.05P.M frustated me with moon and lagna lord saturn of kumbha in 8th.The dispositor Mercury with rahu in 11th in fiery sign.Mercury is ruled by ketu nakshtra moola4th in fiery sign.Rahu in sun's nakshtra of u.ashadha.The flare and flames. 2.Meaningful navamsa with suatrn in pisces a watery sign.with jupiter aspecting 5th from lagna Mercury in cancer. 3Rahu in Parliament 10th ruled by jupiter(In the navamsa) 4.Being a urdhvamukhi sign and fixed,the annoncement will be be adhered.In a months time the clarity of the issue will be known. 5.Poor un happy intellectuals rling 4th by ketu and 10th Rahu-politicians. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Friday, December 11, 2009, 1:46 AM Dear Suresh Babu ji, Krishna ji, members, assuming the anouncement was made on dec 10 MN say 00.01 hrs delhi sIMHA LAGNA 23 DEG 01 RISES CHANDRA IS 5 DEG kANYA Well it seems to be a non-starter in the first place with sani+chandra together delay can be inevitable isn't it in the 2nd house a family squabble with 12th lord chandra and 6th, 7th lord sani away by 6 deg diff Lagna lord is with sukra the 10th lord , 10th sukra is also cumbust as well. so will it fructify? sukra is in the 3rd in D9 and ene,my sign lAGNA LORD RAVI IS IN 5th in D9 with chandra+Kuja Guru has 4/25 Bindus in Makara and San with 4/31 in Kanya is with chandra in gochara the dasa is of ravi who is in the 4th traditionally speaking all major conflicts had taken place with rah-ketu in Vrishabha-vrischika axis so till then this can brew at best 47 Partition into India, pak 56 states break up, 65 Indo-pak war, 74-75 emergency, 84 indira gandhi assination and the sikh--hindu fissures. 82-93 the ayodhya movement, mumbai blasts 2002 had plenty of them 2011-12 can have a lot more if properly not dealt with there is need to have small states let it be in size, than divisive limits similarly river bank areas must be left for agriculture alone no industires that pollute them with no rivers where will we get power from, get food, grains etc only dry districts must be allowed industires thus india prospers most industrial revolutions have killed rivers rivers must unite us, not divides us. food ., hunger, opportunities can be shared in proper way than on language basis nehru did a grave mistake so has sonia now prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Fri, December 11, 2009 11:50:18 AM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues Dear Vinay ji, //Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra.// as the center has anounced about the spit, it doesn't matter now. But do you think, Astrologicaly, it will be beneficial for the state as well as Bharat? regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ VJha <vinayjhaa16@ > Fri, December 11, 2009 10:18:17 AM Re: Telengana and seperative issues Merucentric World Chart (PRITHVI-CHAKRA) for 2009-10 (Year beginning with Mesha Samkraanti) : D1: (1) India falls in 6th bhaava : bad. (2) Lord Venus is highly inauspicious by dint of being lord of 6th & 11th houses. (3) Mars is defeated by Venus in planetary war, hence the houses of Mars (5, 12) come in control of Venus. Both sit in 3rd house. (4) Both Venus and Mars are under firm control of Saturn (Bhaavesh-drishti of 57') : Saturn is lord of 2,3 and sits in 9th house of its bitter enemy Sun. Hence, Saturn is the final lord of India. Saturn is auspicious in 9th house, but very weak due to being in bitter enemy's house. But Saturn is Maarakesh and in Sarvatobhadra its Vedha is for L, M letters. Rahu in 2nd houses also pierces L. Hence, many bomb blasts in Lahore this year. D9: Saturn is exalted in 3rd house, and lord of 6th & 7th houses. Hence, combination of D1 and D9 is good for India in spite of having troubles from 6th house. DESHA-CHAKRA or national chart of India from Vidisha : Saturn governing Venus and Venus governing Mars as above. Saturn, lord of 1 & 2, sits in bitter enemy Sun's house in 8th while Venus and Mars sit in 2nd house. 8th house is towards NW, hence violence in that quarter , mainly in Pakistan. But 2nd house contains good deal of coastal andhra and eastern Telangana, causing violence by naxalites or linguistic strife & c & c. Rest of Telangana is in lagna, lorded by Saturn. It will be better than 2nd house but violence will ensue on account of Saturn sitting in bitter enemy 8th house. Nakshatra-Chart for Vishaakhaa (Desha-chakra) Dec 3-16,2009 : Saturn lord of 2 & 3 in which entire Andhra Pradesh lies, and Saturn sits in 10th house making Parivartan-yoga (mutual lordship) with Rahu in 2nd. Saturn in 10th house of national chart creates political problems for the ruling party in the regions afflicted by Saturn. Third level of Chakra is Pradesh-Chakra. When made from Hyderabad, it gives Saturn as lord of 1,2 and sitting in 8th house in the annual Mesha kundali. In Jyeshthaa chart (Dec 3-16, 2009), Saturn is in 10th as lord of 2 & 3 having parivartana relation with Rahu in 2nd. Chart drawn on the map of Andhra Pradesh can give sectoral predictions. For instance, 6th house is in NE direction from Hyderabad and will witness relatively more strife. 12th house SW from Hyderabad will do same. Ketu in 6th house with debilitated Mars has Vedha of Hyderabad's H letter. Telangana's T was pierced by Mercury : Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra. Most troublesome Tithi is 9 and 14. Other divisionals have been incorporated only in Merucentric charts im my softwares, in Desha and Pradesha chakras only D1 results are given presently. I have to complete these programs by including other divisionals which sometimes become more important than D1 (eg, when the effective planet is exalted or in bad houses in D9). 2nd house influences language, and affliction of 2nd house by Saturn in these charts suggests linguistic strife. Daily carts can give us day to day developments at all 7 levels of chakras. -VJ ============ ========= = ==== , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Vinay ji, > > We see today lot of commotion regarding seperate state of Telengana, for & against it. Similar issues has croped up in North-eastern states for Gurkha land etc. > > Since you have worked with koorma chakras and other methods on Mundane matters, what is opinion on these issues?. > > What if other states also demand split ups, whatever be the political reason?. > > It looks like we are going back to pre-british periods with so many small states (villages) each ruled by their own kings & fighting then for supremancy-now on language and other matters. > > > regards > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Dear Prashnat Ji, As the events are getting complicated,it was for sure political driving assumes importance. Home Minister being a good driver announced in a press conference in the middle(little before) of the mid night on 9th Dec. what how ever matters is futuristic implication of united Andhra Pradesh. Sun representing the King, leader with Venus in jyeshta nakshtra of mercury in scorpio.indicating secrecy with which the decision of the Union Govt was announced in a preplanned manner. ..Incidentally dasa lord happens to be moon with saturn in Virgo kanya,8th house involving complications.Notably suicides and even blood shed.Note saturn;s aspect on 10th.Mars aspect on lagna also on jupiter.No wonder even if President rule is also imposed This will be a central set up and Govt can not go back on the announcement.Sun's entry into jupiter sign on 16th Dec will be very crucial as Rosaiah can not introduce resolution in Assembly We may have to due to lack of political wisdom ,wait and watch how in Assembly politicians behave having no idealogy of welfre state.Thanks to Moon Oriented Cancer.The valour come out for demonstration in a wrong perspective. In any case, Shri Suresh Ji is awaiting the result from Koorma Chakra of Shri V.Jha,which will be a guiding factor for mundane issues Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services)  --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Friday, December 11, 2009, 2:24 AM  Sear Krishna ji, I am seeing a press confrence LIVE by rosiah the CM in which there wa a jiurnalist who has given the time [as a question] on the anouncement by PC the union home minister at 11.30 pm of 9th the lagna is same D9 lagna will change the lagna will be varagattomma , like rah also rest r a bit more unfavorable for a peaceful situation emerging in rav-bud between 12/2 to 20/12/10 as Bud-ket r in the 12th in D9 with ketu some conspiracy, interigue can not be ruled out. prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > Fri, December 11, 2009 12:33:33 PM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Dear Sirs, My prashna chart made on 10th at 12.05P.M frustated me with moon and lagna lord saturn of kumbha in 8th.The dispositor Mercury with rahu in 11th in fiery sign.Mercury is ruled by ketu nakshtra moola4th in fiery sign.Rahu in sun's nakshtra of u.ashadha.The flare and flames. 2.Meaningful navamsa with suatrn in pisces a watery sign.with jupiter aspecting 5th from lagna Mercury in cancer. 3Rahu in Parliament 10th ruled by jupiter(In the navamsa) 4.Being a urdhvamukhi sign and fixed,the annoncement will be be adhered.In a months time the clarity of the issue will be known. 5.Poor un happy intellectuals rling 4th by ketu and 10th Rahu-politicians. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Friday, December 11, 2009, 1:46 AM Dear Suresh Babu ji, Krishna ji, members, assuming the anouncement was made on dec 10 MN say 00.01 hrs delhi sIMHA LAGNA 23 DEG 01 RISES CHANDRA IS 5 DEG kANYA Well it seems to be a non-starter in the first place with sani+chandra together delay can be inevitable isn't it in the 2nd house a family squabble with 12th lord chandra and 6th, 7th lord sani away by 6 deg diff Lagna lord is with sukra the 10th lord , 10th sukra is also cumbust as well. so will it fructify? sukra is in the 3rd in D9 and ene,my sign lAGNA LORD RAVI IS IN 5th in D9 with chandra+Kuja Guru has 4/25 Bindus in Makara and San with 4/31 in Kanya is with chandra in gochara the dasa is of ravi who is in the 4th traditionally speaking all major conflicts had taken place with rah-ketu in Vrishabha-vrischika axis so till then this can brew at best 47 Partition into India, pak 56 states break up, 65 Indo-pak war, 74-75 emergency, 84 indira gandhi assination and the sikh--hindu fissures. 82-93 the ayodhya movement, mumbai blasts 2002 had plenty of them 2011-12 can have a lot more if properly not dealt with there is need to have small states let it be in size, than divisive limits similarly river bank areas must be left for agriculture alone no industires that pollute them with no rivers where will we get power from, get food, grains etc only dry districts must be allowed industires thus india prospers most industrial revolutions have killed rivers rivers must unite us, not divides us. food ., hunger, opportunities can be shared in proper way than on language basis nehru did a grave mistake so has sonia now prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Fri, December 11, 2009 11:50:18 AM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues Dear Vinay ji, //Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra.// as the center has anounced about the spit, it doesn't matter now. But do you think, Astrologicaly, it will be beneficial for the state as well as Bharat? regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ VJha <vinayjhaa16@ > Fri, December 11, 2009 10:18:17 AM Re: Telengana and seperative issues Merucentric World Chart (PRITHVI-CHAKRA) for 2009-10 (Year beginning with Mesha Samkraanti) : D1: (1) India falls in 6th bhaava : bad. (2) Lord Venus is highly inauspicious by dint of being lord of 6th & 11th houses. (3) Mars is defeated by Venus in planetary war, hence the houses of Mars (5, 12) come in control of Venus. Both sit in 3rd house. (4) Both Venus and Mars are under firm control of Saturn (Bhaavesh-drishti of 57') : Saturn is lord of 2,3 and sits in 9th house of its bitter enemy Sun. Hence, Saturn is the final lord of India. Saturn is auspicious in 9th house, but very weak due to being in bitter enemy's house. But Saturn is Maarakesh and in Sarvatobhadra its Vedha is for L, M letters. Rahu in 2nd houses also pierces L. Hence, many bomb blasts in Lahore this year. D9: Saturn is exalted in 3rd house, and lord of 6th & 7th houses. Hence, combination of D1 and D9 is good for India in spite of having troubles from 6th house. DESHA-CHAKRA or national chart of India from Vidisha : Saturn governing Venus and Venus governing Mars as above. Saturn, lord of 1 & 2, sits in bitter enemy Sun's house in 8th while Venus and Mars sit in 2nd house. 8th house is towards NW, hence violence in that quarter , mainly in Pakistan. But 2nd house contains good deal of coastal andhra and eastern Telangana, causing violence by naxalites or linguistic strife & c & c. Rest of Telangana is in lagna, lorded by Saturn. It will be better than 2nd house but violence will ensue on account of Saturn sitting in bitter enemy 8th house. Nakshatra-Chart for Vishaakhaa (Desha-chakra) Dec 3-16,2009 : Saturn lord of 2 & 3 in which entire Andhra Pradesh lies, and Saturn sits in 10th house making Parivartan-yoga (mutual lordship) with Rahu in 2nd. Saturn in 10th house of national chart creates political problems for the ruling party in the regions afflicted by Saturn. Third level of Chakra is Pradesh-Chakra. When made from Hyderabad, it gives Saturn as lord of 1,2 and sitting in 8th house in the annual Mesha kundali. In Jyeshthaa chart (Dec 3-16, 2009), Saturn is in 10th as lord of 2 & 3 having parivartana relation with Rahu in 2nd. Chart drawn on the map of Andhra Pradesh can give sectoral predictions. For instance, 6th house is in NE direction from Hyderabad and will witness relatively more strife. 12th house SW from Hyderabad will do same. Ketu in 6th house with debilitated Mars has Vedha of Hyderabad's H letter. Telangana's T was pierced by Mercury : Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra. Most troublesome Tithi is 9 and 14. Other divisionals have been incorporated only in Merucentric charts im my softwares, in Desha and Pradesha chakras only D1 results are given presently. I have to complete these programs by including other divisionals which sometimes become more important than D1 (eg, when the effective planet is exalted or in bad houses in D9). 2nd house influences language, and affliction of 2nd house by Saturn in these charts suggests linguistic strife. Daily carts can give us day to day developments at all 7 levels of chakras. -VJ ============ ========= = ==== , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Vinay ji, > > We see today lot of commotion regarding seperate state of Telengana, for & against it. Similar issues has croped up in North-eastern states for Gurkha land etc. > > Since you have worked with koorma chakras and other methods on Mundane matters, what is opinion on these issues?. > > What if other states also demand split ups, whatever be the political reason?. > > It looks like we are going back to pre-british periods with so many small states (villages) each ruled by their own kings & fighting then for supremancy-now on language and other matters. > > > regards > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Dear Krishna ji, Suresh jim, Vinay ji well even I am looking forward to the Koorma chakra picture and I hope it will also cover the other elements from the pandora's box gorkhaland, xior, bundlekhand, mithali, Vidarbha, saurashtra, Hareet pradesh etc such a sensless thing to elect a CLP leader they send 2-4 observers in any successful election even the leader is a pouplar one as shila diixit was delayed her 2nd trenure for weeks so too Ashok ghelot, digvijay singh etc to anouce such a result they did not feel fit to call a CLP meeting privately at least and check their views promise something and not deliver will TRS trust any central authority in future now ay and will any other movement do so in future no they have bitten more than they can chew prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 ________________________________ Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 Fri, December 11, 2009 3:57:54 PM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Dear Prashnat Ji, As the events are getting complicated, it was for sure political driving assumes importance. Home Minister being a good driver announced in a press conference in the middle(little before) of the mid night on 9th Dec. what how ever matters is futuristic implication of united Andhra Pradesh. Sun representing the King, leader with Venus in jyeshta nakshtra of mercury in scorpio.indicating secrecy with which the decision of the Union Govt was announced in a preplanned manner. ..Incidentally dasa lord happens to be moon with saturn in Virgo kanya,8th house involving complications. Notably suicides and even blood shed.Note saturn;s aspect on 10th.Mars aspect on lagna also on jupiter.No wonder even if President rule is also imposed This will be a central set up and Govt can not go back on the announcement. Sun's entry into jupiter sign on 16th Dec will be very crucial as Rosaiah can not introduce resolution in Assembly We may have to due to lack of political wisdom ,wait and watch how in Assembly politicians behave having no idealogy of welfre state.Thanks to Moon Oriented Cancer.The valour come out for demonstration in a wrong perspective. In any case, Shri Suresh Ji is awaiting the result from Koorma Chakra of Shri V.Jha,which will be a guiding factor for mundane issues Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Friday, December 11, 2009, 2:24 AM Sear Krishna ji, I am seeing a press confrence LIVE by rosiah the CM in which there wa a jiurnalist who has given the time [as a question] on the anouncement by PC the union home minister at 11.30 pm of 9th the lagna is same D9 lagna will change the lagna will be varagattomma , like rah also rest r a bit more unfavorable for a peaceful situation emerging in rav-bud between 12/2 to 20/12/10 as Bud-ket r in the 12th in D9 with ketu some conspiracy, interigue can not be ruled out. prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > Fri, December 11, 2009 12:33:33 PM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Dear Sirs, My prashna chart made on 10th at 12.05P.M frustated me with moon and lagna lord saturn of kumbha in 8th.The dispositor Mercury with rahu in 11th in fiery sign.Mercury is ruled by ketu nakshtra moola4th in fiery sign.Rahu in sun's nakshtra of u.ashadha.The flare and flames. 2.Meaningful navamsa with suatrn in pisces a watery sign.with jupiter aspecting 5th from lagna Mercury in cancer. 3Rahu in Parliament 10th ruled by jupiter(In the navamsa) 4.Being a urdhvamukhi sign and fixed,the annoncement will be be adhered.In a months time the clarity of the issue will be known. 5.Poor un happy intellectuals rling 4th by ketu and 10th Rahu-politicians. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Friday, December 11, 2009, 1:46 AM Dear Suresh Babu ji, Krishna ji, members, assuming the anouncement was made on dec 10 MN say 00.01 hrs delhi sIMHA LAGNA 23 DEG 01 RISES CHANDRA IS 5 DEG kANYA Well it seems to be a non-starter in the first place with sani+chandra together delay can be inevitable isn't it in the 2nd house a family squabble with 12th lord chandra and 6th, 7th lord sani away by 6 deg diff Lagna lord is with sukra the 10th lord , 10th sukra is also cumbust as well. so will it fructify? sukra is in the 3rd in D9 and ene,my sign lAGNA LORD RAVI IS IN 5th in D9 with chandra+Kuja Guru has 4/25 Bindus in Makara and San with 4/31 in Kanya is with chandra in gochara the dasa is of ravi who is in the 4th traditionally speaking all major conflicts had taken place with rah-ketu in Vrishabha-vrischika axis so till then this can brew at best 47 Partition into India, pak 56 states break up, 65 Indo-pak war, 74-75 emergency, 84 indira gandhi assination and the sikh--hindu fissures. 82-93 the ayodhya movement, mumbai blasts 2002 had plenty of them 2011-12 can have a lot more if properly not dealt with there is need to have small states let it be in size, than divisive limits similarly river bank areas must be left for agriculture alone no industires that pollute them with no rivers where will we get power from, get food, grains etc only dry districts must be allowed industires thus india prospers most industrial revolutions have killed rivers rivers must unite us, not divides us. food ., hunger, opportunities can be shared in proper way than on language basis nehru did a grave mistake so has sonia now prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Fri, December 11, 2009 11:50:18 AM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues Dear Vinay ji, //Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra.// as the center has anounced about the spit, it doesn't matter now. But do you think, Astrologicaly, it will be beneficial for the state as well as Bharat? regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ VJha <vinayjhaa16@ > Fri, December 11, 2009 10:18:17 AM Re: Telengana and seperative issues Merucentric World Chart (PRITHVI-CHAKRA) for 2009-10 (Year beginning with Mesha Samkraanti) : D1: (1) India falls in 6th bhaava : bad. (2) Lord Venus is highly inauspicious by dint of being lord of 6th & 11th houses. (3) Mars is defeated by Venus in planetary war, hence the houses of Mars (5, 12) come in control of Venus. Both sit in 3rd house. (4) Both Venus and Mars are under firm control of Saturn (Bhaavesh-drishti of 57') : Saturn is lord of 2,3 and sits in 9th house of its bitter enemy Sun. Hence, Saturn is the final lord of India. Saturn is auspicious in 9th house, but very weak due to being in bitter enemy's house. But Saturn is Maarakesh and in Sarvatobhadra its Vedha is for L, M letters. Rahu in 2nd houses also pierces L. Hence, many bomb blasts in Lahore this year. D9: Saturn is exalted in 3rd house, and lord of 6th & 7th houses. Hence, combination of D1 and D9 is good for India in spite of having troubles from 6th house. DESHA-CHAKRA or national chart of India from Vidisha : Saturn governing Venus and Venus governing Mars as above. Saturn, lord of 1 & 2, sits in bitter enemy Sun's house in 8th while Venus and Mars sit in 2nd house. 8th house is towards NW, hence violence in that quarter , mainly in Pakistan. But 2nd house contains good deal of coastal andhra and eastern Telangana, causing violence by naxalites or linguistic strife & c & c. Rest of Telangana is in lagna, lorded by Saturn. It will be better than 2nd house but violence will ensue on account of Saturn sitting in bitter enemy 8th house. Nakshatra-Chart for Vishaakhaa (Desha-chakra) Dec 3-16,2009 : Saturn lord of 2 & 3 in which entire Andhra Pradesh lies, and Saturn sits in 10th house making Parivartan-yoga (mutual lordship) with Rahu in 2nd. Saturn in 10th house of national chart creates political problems for the ruling party in the regions afflicted by Saturn. Third level of Chakra is Pradesh-Chakra. When made from Hyderabad, it gives Saturn as lord of 1,2 and sitting in 8th house in the annual Mesha kundali. In Jyeshthaa chart (Dec 3-16, 2009), Saturn is in 10th as lord of 2 & 3 having parivartana relation with Rahu in 2nd. Chart drawn on the map of Andhra Pradesh can give sectoral predictions. For instance, 6th house is in NE direction from Hyderabad and will witness relatively more strife. 12th house SW from Hyderabad will do same. Ketu in 6th house with debilitated Mars has Vedha of Hyderabad's H letter. Telangana's T was pierced by Mercury : Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra. Most troublesome Tithi is 9 and 14. Other divisionals have been incorporated only in Merucentric charts im my softwares, in Desha and Pradesha chakras only D1 results are given presently. I have to complete these programs by including other divisionals which sometimes become more important than D1 (eg, when the effective planet is exalted or in bad houses in D9). 2nd house influences language, and affliction of 2nd house by Saturn in these charts suggests linguistic strife. Daily carts can give us day to day developments at all 7 levels of chakras. -VJ ============ ========= = ==== , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Vinay ji, > > We see today lot of commotion regarding seperate state of Telengana, for & against it. Similar issues has croped up in North-eastern states for Gurkha land etc. > > Since you have worked with koorma chakras and other methods on Mundane matters, what is opinion on these issues?. > > What if other states also demand split ups, whatever be the political reason?. > > It looks like we are going back to pre-british periods with so many small states (villages) each ruled by their own kings & fighting then for supremancy-now on language and other matters. > > > regards > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Dear Sir, //Rahu seems to get most of the benefits atleast now.// This is the important pointer as it will be an issue for future set up and revise the SRC terms to decide the criteria of bifurcation states. Economic factors will come into fore as jupiter ruled Rahu is expected to make a thorough review and ward off creation un economical,not viable and centres for wastege of capital investment.Also groom feudalism and htredness. what ver might be the ending of 2009 will help in correcting past history with rahu's grace. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services)  --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote: Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Friday, December 11, 2009, 3:21 AM  Dear Prashant ji, If we assume this time, Then the dicision could only be a forced one and un-intelligent. 5th house is afflicted by rahu + Mercury (opurtunistic) and its lord is in the 6th aspected by a neecha 4th lord from the 12th(past history). Lagna though vargottama & its lord(Sun-govt) in kendra - 4th (state) is severly under pressure from Mars(4th lord) and the 7th lord(jana path -public). 7th house has navamsa of both sun & mars, fiery planets - which indicates flames glowing. Unfortunate is both indicate vested interests of state mechinery itself. The only consolation is after the balarishta (moon+ saturn) + rahu + mercury in its kendra, things might turn beneficial to some section of the public in a little way (aspect of jupiter) + navamsa of moon in the sign occupied by Jupiter.      Rahu seems to get most of the benefits atleast now. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Fri, December 11, 2009 12:54:17 PM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12  Sear Krishna ji, I am seeing a press confrence LIVE by rosiah the CM in which there wa a jiurnalist who has given the time [as a question] on the anouncement by PC the union home minister at 11.30 pm of 9th the lagna is same D9 lagna will change the lagna will be varagattomma , like rah also rest r a bit more unfavorable for a peaceful situation emerging in rav-bud between 12/2 to 20/12/10 as Bud-ket r in the 12th in D9 with ketu some conspiracy, interigue can not be ruled out. prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > Fri, December 11, 2009 12:33:33 PM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Dear Sirs, My prashna chart made on 10th at 12.05P.M frustated me with moon and lagna lord saturn of kumbha in 8th.The dispositor Mercury with rahu in 11th in fiery sign.Mercury is ruled by ketu nakshtra moola4th in fiery sign.Rahu in sun's nakshtra of u.ashadha.The flare and flames. 2.Meaningful navamsa with suatrn in pisces a watery sign.with jupiter aspecting 5th from lagna Mercury in cancer. 3Rahu in Parliament 10th ruled by jupiter(In the navamsa) 4.Being a urdhvamukhi sign and fixed,the annoncement will be be adhered.In a months time the clarity of the issue will be known. 5.Poor un happy intellectuals rling 4th by ketu and 10th Rahu-politicians. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Friday, December 11, 2009, 1:46 AM Dear Suresh Babu ji, Krishna ji, members, assuming the anouncement was made on dec 10 MN say 00.01 hrs delhi sIMHA LAGNA 23 DEG 01 RISES CHANDRA IS 5 DEG kANYA Well it seems to be a non-starter in the first place with sani+chandra together delay can be inevitable isn't it in the 2nd house a family squabble with 12th lord chandra and 6th, 7th lord sani away by 6 deg diff Lagna lord is with sukra the 10th lord , 10th sukra is also cumbust as well. so will it fructify? sukra is in the 3rd in D9 and ene,my sign lAGNA LORD RAVI IS IN 5th in D9 with chandra+Kuja Guru has 4/25 Bindus in Makara and San with 4/31 in Kanya is with chandra in gochara the dasa is of ravi who is in the 4th traditionally speaking all major conflicts had taken place with rah-ketu in Vrishabha-vrischika axis so till then this can brew at best 47 Partition into India, pak 56 states break up, 65 Indo-pak war, 74-75 emergency, 84 indira gandhi assination and the sikh--hindu fissures. 82-93 the ayodhya movement, mumbai blasts 2002 had plenty of them 2011-12 can have a lot more if properly not dealt with there is need to have small states let it be in size, than divisive limits similarly river bank areas must be left for agriculture alone no industires that pollute them with no rivers where will we get power from, get food, grains etc only dry districts must be allowed industires thus india prospers most industrial revolutions have killed rivers rivers must unite us, not divides us. food ., hunger, opportunities can be shared in proper way than on language basis nehru did a grave mistake so has sonia now prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Fri, December 11, 2009 11:50:18 AM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues Dear Vinay ji, //Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra.// as the center has anounced about the spit, it doesn't matter now. But do you think, Astrologicaly, it will be beneficial for the state as well as Bharat? regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ VJha <vinayjhaa16@ > Fri, December 11, 2009 10:18:17 AM Re: Telengana and seperative issues Merucentric World Chart (PRITHVI-CHAKRA) for 2009-10 (Year beginning with Mesha Samkraanti) : D1: (1) India falls in 6th bhaava : bad. (2) Lord Venus is highly inauspicious by dint of being lord of 6th & 11th houses. (3) Mars is defeated by Venus in planetary war, hence the houses of Mars (5, 12) come in control of Venus. Both sit in 3rd house. (4) Both Venus and Mars are under firm control of Saturn (Bhaavesh-drishti of 57') : Saturn is lord of 2,3 and sits in 9th house of its bitter enemy Sun. Hence, Saturn is the final lord of India. Saturn is auspicious in 9th house, but very weak due to being in bitter enemy's house. But Saturn is Maarakesh and in Sarvatobhadra its Vedha is for L, M letters. Rahu in 2nd houses also pierces L. Hence, many bomb blasts in Lahore this year. D9: Saturn is exalted in 3rd house, and lord of 6th & 7th houses. Hence, combination of D1 and D9 is good for India in spite of having troubles from 6th house. DESHA-CHAKRA or national chart of India from Vidisha : Saturn governing Venus and Venus governing Mars as above. Saturn, lord of 1 & 2, sits in bitter enemy Sun's house in 8th while Venus and Mars sit in 2nd house. 8th house is towards NW, hence violence in that quarter , mainly in Pakistan. But 2nd house contains good deal of coastal andhra and eastern Telangana, causing violence by naxalites or linguistic strife & c & c. Rest of Telangana is in lagna, lorded by Saturn. It will be better than 2nd house but violence will ensue on account of Saturn sitting in bitter enemy 8th house. Nakshatra-Chart for Vishaakhaa (Desha-chakra) Dec 3-16,2009 : Saturn lord of 2 & 3 in which entire Andhra Pradesh lies, and Saturn sits in 10th house making Parivartan-yoga (mutual lordship) with Rahu in 2nd. Saturn in 10th house of national chart creates political problems for the ruling party in the regions afflicted by Saturn. Third level of Chakra is Pradesh-Chakra. When made from Hyderabad, it gives Saturn as lord of 1,2 and sitting in 8th house in the annual Mesha kundali. In Jyeshthaa chart (Dec 3-16, 2009), Saturn is in 10th as lord of 2 & 3 having parivartana relation with Rahu in 2nd. Chart drawn on the map of Andhra Pradesh can give sectoral predictions. For instance, 6th house is in NE direction from Hyderabad and will witness relatively more strife. 12th house SW from Hyderabad will do same. Ketu in 6th house with debilitated Mars has Vedha of Hyderabad's H letter. Telangana's T was pierced by Mercury : Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra. Most troublesome Tithi is 9 and 14. Other divisionals have been incorporated only in Merucentric charts im my softwares, in Desha and Pradesha chakras only D1 results are given presently. I have to complete these programs by including other divisionals which sometimes become more important than D1 (eg, when the effective planet is exalted or in bad houses in D9). 2nd house influences language, and affliction of 2nd house by Saturn in these charts suggests linguistic strife. Daily carts can give us day to day developments at all 7 levels of chakras. -VJ ============ ========= = ==== , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Vinay ji, > > We see today lot of commotion regarding seperate state of Telengana, for & against it. Similar issues has croped up in North-eastern states for Gurkha land etc. > > Since you have worked with koorma chakras and other methods on Mundane matters, what is opinion on these issues?. > > What if other states also demand split ups, whatever be the political reason?. > > It looks like we are going back to pre-british periods with so many small states (villages) each ruled by their own kings & fighting then for supremancy-now on language and other matters. > > > regards > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Dear Prashant ji, Krishna ji, Krishna ji has further added a twist by mentioning Presidents rule. It is very likely as Sun is having Navamsa in the 7th house and sitting in its Yoga karaka griha-mar's house. It is definite that the people may take an adverse stand and look at it as design of the Center. I feel both the Center as well as State are very as of now because of the debilation of the Mars. Further, the aspect of saturn on Sun + Venus as to be accounted for. However, in a couple of months, uttarayana starts, which see the center comming out in a better shape to exert itself on the people and snatch the price. The point is all these are politics and any thing goes there and our boys are very good at it. However, the question remains is whether this strategy shall benefit the people in the long run and India as a whole, which has to hold on together without a hole. What is scary is that instead of trying to identify as one nation, more and more divisive forces are grouping up whether it is in the name of a region or language. Will it come to a stage when I will have to take a visa to visit the next state? A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar Fri, December 11, 2009 4:17:43 PM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12  Dear Krishna ji, Suresh jim, Vinay ji well even I am looking forward to the Koorma chakra picture and I hope it will also cover the other elements from the pandora's box gorkhaland, xior, bundlekhand, mithali, Vidarbha, saurashtra, Hareet pradesh etc such a sensless thing to elect a CLP leader they send 2-4 observers in any successful election even the leader is a pouplar one as shila diixit was delayed her 2nd trenure for weeks so too Ashok ghelot, digvijay singh etc to anouce such a result they did not feel fit to call a CLP meeting privately at least and check their views promise something and not deliver will TRS trust any central authority in future now ay and will any other movement do so in future no they have bitten more than they can chew prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > Fri, December 11, 2009 3:57:54 PM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Dear Prashnat Ji, As the events are getting complicated, it was for sure political driving assumes importance. Home Minister being a good driver announced in a press conference in the middle(little before) of the mid night on 9th Dec. what how ever matters is futuristic implication of united Andhra Pradesh. Sun representing the King, leader with Venus in jyeshta nakshtra of mercury in scorpio.indicating secrecy with which the decision of the Union Govt was announced in a preplanned manner. ..Incidentally dasa lord happens to be moon with saturn in Virgo kanya,8th house involving complications. Notably suicides and even blood shed.Note saturn;s aspect on 10th.Mars aspect on lagna also on jupiter.No wonder even if President rule is also imposed This will be a central set up and Govt can not go back on the announcement. Sun's entry into jupiter sign on 16th Dec will be very crucial as Rosaiah can not introduce resolution in Assembly We may have to due to lack of political wisdom ,wait and watch how in Assembly politicians behave having no idealogy of welfre state.Thanks to Moon Oriented Cancer.The valour come out for demonstration in a wrong perspective. In any case, Shri Suresh Ji is awaiting the result from Koorma Chakra of Shri V.Jha,which will be a guiding factor for mundane issues Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Friday, December 11, 2009, 2:24 AM Sear Krishna ji, I am seeing a press confrence LIVE by rosiah the CM in which there wa a jiurnalist who has given the time [as a question] on the anouncement by PC the union home minister at 11.30 pm of 9th the lagna is same D9 lagna will change the lagna will be varagattomma , like rah also rest r a bit more unfavorable for a peaceful situation emerging in rav-bud between 12/2 to 20/12/10 as Bud-ket r in the 12th in D9 with ketu some conspiracy, interigue can not be ruled out. prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > Fri, December 11, 2009 12:33:33 PM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Dear Sirs, My prashna chart made on 10th at 12.05P.M frustated me with moon and lagna lord saturn of kumbha in 8th.The dispositor Mercury with rahu in 11th in fiery sign.Mercury is ruled by ketu nakshtra moola4th in fiery sign.Rahu in sun's nakshtra of u.ashadha.The flare and flames. 2.Meaningful navamsa with suatrn in pisces a watery sign.with jupiter aspecting 5th from lagna Mercury in cancer. 3Rahu in Parliament 10th ruled by jupiter(In the navamsa) 4.Being a urdhvamukhi sign and fixed,the annoncement will be be adhered.In a months time the clarity of the issue will be known. 5.Poor un happy intellectuals rling 4th by ketu and 10th Rahu-politicians. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Friday, December 11, 2009, 1:46 AM Dear Suresh Babu ji, Krishna ji, members, assuming the anouncement was made on dec 10 MN say 00.01 hrs delhi sIMHA LAGNA 23 DEG 01 RISES CHANDRA IS 5 DEG kANYA Well it seems to be a non-starter in the first place with sani+chandra together delay can be inevitable isn't it in the 2nd house a family squabble with 12th lord chandra and 6th, 7th lord sani away by 6 deg diff Lagna lord is with sukra the 10th lord , 10th sukra is also cumbust as well. so will it fructify? sukra is in the 3rd in D9 and ene,my sign lAGNA LORD RAVI IS IN 5th in D9 with chandra+Kuja Guru has 4/25 Bindus in Makara and San with 4/31 in Kanya is with chandra in gochara the dasa is of ravi who is in the 4th traditionally speaking all major conflicts had taken place with rah-ketu in Vrishabha-vrischika axis so till then this can brew at best 47 Partition into India, pak 56 states break up, 65 Indo-pak war, 74-75 emergency, 84 indira gandhi assination and the sikh--hindu fissures. 82-93 the ayodhya movement, mumbai blasts 2002 had plenty of them 2011-12 can have a lot more if properly not dealt with there is need to have small states let it be in size, than divisive limits similarly river bank areas must be left for agriculture alone no industires that pollute them with no rivers where will we get power from, get food, grains etc only dry districts must be allowed industires thus india prospers most industrial revolutions have killed rivers rivers must unite us, not divides us. food ., hunger, opportunities can be shared in proper way than on language basis nehru did a grave mistake so has sonia now prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Fri, December 11, 2009 11:50:18 AM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues Dear Vinay ji, //Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra.// as the center has anounced about the spit, it doesn't matter now. But do you think, Astrologicaly, it will be beneficial for the state as well as Bharat? regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ VJha <vinayjhaa16@ > Fri, December 11, 2009 10:18:17 AM Re: Telengana and seperative issues Merucentric World Chart (PRITHVI-CHAKRA) for 2009-10 (Year beginning with Mesha Samkraanti) : D1: (1) India falls in 6th bhaava : bad. (2) Lord Venus is highly inauspicious by dint of being lord of 6th & 11th houses. (3) Mars is defeated by Venus in planetary war, hence the houses of Mars (5, 12) come in control of Venus. Both sit in 3rd house. (4) Both Venus and Mars are under firm control of Saturn (Bhaavesh-drishti of 57') : Saturn is lord of 2,3 and sits in 9th house of its bitter enemy Sun. Hence, Saturn is the final lord of India. Saturn is auspicious in 9th house, but very weak due to being in bitter enemy's house. But Saturn is Maarakesh and in Sarvatobhadra its Vedha is for L, M letters. Rahu in 2nd houses also pierces L. Hence, many bomb blasts in Lahore this year. D9: Saturn is exalted in 3rd house, and lord of 6th & 7th houses. Hence, combination of D1 and D9 is good for India in spite of having troubles from 6th house. DESHA-CHAKRA or national chart of India from Vidisha : Saturn governing Venus and Venus governing Mars as above. Saturn, lord of 1 & 2, sits in bitter enemy Sun's house in 8th while Venus and Mars sit in 2nd house. 8th house is towards NW, hence violence in that quarter , mainly in Pakistan. But 2nd house contains good deal of coastal andhra and eastern Telangana, causing violence by naxalites or linguistic strife & c & c. Rest of Telangana is in lagna, lorded by Saturn. It will be better than 2nd house but violence will ensue on account of Saturn sitting in bitter enemy 8th house. Nakshatra-Chart for Vishaakhaa (Desha-chakra) Dec 3-16,2009 : Saturn lord of 2 & 3 in which entire Andhra Pradesh lies, and Saturn sits in 10th house making Parivartan-yoga (mutual lordship) with Rahu in 2nd. Saturn in 10th house of national chart creates political problems for the ruling party in the regions afflicted by Saturn. Third level of Chakra is Pradesh-Chakra. When made from Hyderabad, it gives Saturn as lord of 1,2 and sitting in 8th house in the annual Mesha kundali. In Jyeshthaa chart (Dec 3-16, 2009), Saturn is in 10th as lord of 2 & 3 having parivartana relation with Rahu in 2nd. Chart drawn on the map of Andhra Pradesh can give sectoral predictions. For instance, 6th house is in NE direction from Hyderabad and will witness relatively more strife. 12th house SW from Hyderabad will do same. Ketu in 6th house with debilitated Mars has Vedha of Hyderabad's H letter. Telangana's T was pierced by Mercury : Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra. Most troublesome Tithi is 9 and 14. Other divisionals have been incorporated only in Merucentric charts im my softwares, in Desha and Pradesha chakras only D1 results are given presently. I have to complete these programs by including other divisionals which sometimes become more important than D1 (eg, when the effective planet is exalted or in bad houses in D9). 2nd house influences language, and affliction of 2nd house by Saturn in these charts suggests linguistic strife. Daily carts can give us day to day developments at all 7 levels of chakras. -VJ ============ ========= = ==== , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Vinay ji, > > We see today lot of commotion regarding seperate state of Telengana, for & against it. Similar issues has croped up in North-eastern states for Gurkha land etc. > > Since you have worked with koorma chakras and other methods on Mundane matters, what is opinion on these issues?. > > What if other states also demand split ups, whatever be the political reason?. > > It looks like we are going back to pre-british periods with so many small states (villages) each ruled by their own kings & fighting then for supremancy-now on language and other matters. > > > regards > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 I wonder why Rohini ji is silent. Must be smilling with amusement reading all these.  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 Fri, December 11, 2009 4:23:27 PM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12  Dear Sir, //Rahu seems to get most of the benefits atleast now.// This is the important pointer as it will be an issue for future set up and revise the SRC terms to decide the criteria of bifurcation states. Economic factors will come into fore as jupiter ruled Rahu is expected to make a thorough review and ward off creation un economical,not viable and centres for wastege of capital investment.Also groom feudalism and htredness. what ver might be the ending of 2009 will help in correcting past history with rahu's grace. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services)  --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Friday, December 11, 2009, 3:21 AM  Dear Prashant ji, If we assume this time, Then the dicision could only be a forced one and un-intelligent. 5th house is afflicted by rahu + Mercury (opurtunistic) and its lord is in the 6th aspected by a neecha 4th lord from the 12th(past history). Lagna though vargottama & its lord(Sun-govt) in kendra - 4th (state) is severly under pressure from Mars(4th lord) and the 7th lord(jana path -public). 7th house has navamsa of both sun & mars, fiery planets - which indicates flames glowing. Unfortunate is both indicate vested interests of state mechinery itself. The only consolation is after the balarishta (moon+ saturn) + rahu + mercury in its kendra, things might turn beneficial to some section of the public in a little way (aspect of jupiter) + navamsa of moon in the sign occupied by Jupiter.      Rahu seems to get most of the benefits atleast now. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Fri, December 11, 2009 12:54:17 PM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12  Sear Krishna ji, I am seeing a press confrence LIVE by rosiah the CM in which there wa a jiurnalist who has given the time [as a question] on the anouncement by PC the union home minister at 11.30 pm of 9th the lagna is same D9 lagna will change the lagna will be varagattomma , like rah also rest r a bit more unfavorable for a peaceful situation emerging in rav-bud between 12/2 to 20/12/10 as Bud-ket r in the 12th in D9 with ketu some conspiracy, interigue can not be ruled out. prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > Fri, December 11, 2009 12:33:33 PM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Dear Sirs, My prashna chart made on 10th at 12.05P.M frustated me with moon and lagna lord saturn of kumbha in 8th.The dispositor Mercury with rahu in 11th in fiery sign.Mercury is ruled by ketu nakshtra moola4th in fiery sign.Rahu in sun's nakshtra of u.ashadha.The flare and flames. 2.Meaningful navamsa with suatrn in pisces a watery sign.with jupiter aspecting 5th from lagna Mercury in cancer. 3Rahu in Parliament 10th ruled by jupiter(In the navamsa) 4.Being a urdhvamukhi sign and fixed,the annoncement will be be adhered.In a months time the clarity of the issue will be known. 5.Poor un happy intellectuals rling 4th by ketu and 10th Rahu-politicians. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Friday, December 11, 2009, 1:46 AM Dear Suresh Babu ji, Krishna ji, members, assuming the anouncement was made on dec 10 MN say 00.01 hrs delhi sIMHA LAGNA 23 DEG 01 RISES CHANDRA IS 5 DEG kANYA Well it seems to be a non-starter in the first place with sani+chandra together delay can be inevitable isn't it in the 2nd house a family squabble with 12th lord chandra and 6th, 7th lord sani away by 6 deg diff Lagna lord is with sukra the 10th lord , 10th sukra is also cumbust as well. so will it fructify? sukra is in the 3rd in D9 and ene,my sign lAGNA LORD RAVI IS IN 5th in D9 with chandra+Kuja Guru has 4/25 Bindus in Makara and San with 4/31 in Kanya is with chandra in gochara the dasa is of ravi who is in the 4th traditionally speaking all major conflicts had taken place with rah-ketu in Vrishabha-vrischika axis so till then this can brew at best 47 Partition into India, pak 56 states break up, 65 Indo-pak war, 74-75 emergency, 84 indira gandhi assination and the sikh--hindu fissures. 82-93 the ayodhya movement, mumbai blasts 2002 had plenty of them 2011-12 can have a lot more if properly not dealt with there is need to have small states let it be in size, than divisive limits similarly river bank areas must be left for agriculture alone no industires that pollute them with no rivers where will we get power from, get food, grains etc only dry districts must be allowed industires thus india prospers most industrial revolutions have killed rivers rivers must unite us, not divides us. food ., hunger, opportunities can be shared in proper way than on language basis nehru did a grave mistake so has sonia now prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Fri, December 11, 2009 11:50:18 AM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues Dear Vinay ji, //Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra.// as the center has anounced about the spit, it doesn't matter now. But do you think, Astrologicaly, it will be beneficial for the state as well as Bharat? regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ VJha <vinayjhaa16@ > Fri, December 11, 2009 10:18:17 AM Re: Telengana and seperative issues Merucentric World Chart (PRITHVI-CHAKRA) for 2009-10 (Year beginning with Mesha Samkraanti) : D1: (1) India falls in 6th bhaava : bad. (2) Lord Venus is highly inauspicious by dint of being lord of 6th & 11th houses. (3) Mars is defeated by Venus in planetary war, hence the houses of Mars (5, 12) come in control of Venus. Both sit in 3rd house. (4) Both Venus and Mars are under firm control of Saturn (Bhaavesh-drishti of 57') : Saturn is lord of 2,3 and sits in 9th house of its bitter enemy Sun. Hence, Saturn is the final lord of India. Saturn is auspicious in 9th house, but very weak due to being in bitter enemy's house. But Saturn is Maarakesh and in Sarvatobhadra its Vedha is for L, M letters. Rahu in 2nd houses also pierces L. Hence, many bomb blasts in Lahore this year. D9: Saturn is exalted in 3rd house, and lord of 6th & 7th houses. Hence, combination of D1 and D9 is good for India in spite of having troubles from 6th house. DESHA-CHAKRA or national chart of India from Vidisha : Saturn governing Venus and Venus governing Mars as above. Saturn, lord of 1 & 2, sits in bitter enemy Sun's house in 8th while Venus and Mars sit in 2nd house. 8th house is towards NW, hence violence in that quarter , mainly in Pakistan. But 2nd house contains good deal of coastal andhra and eastern Telangana, causing violence by naxalites or linguistic strife & c & c. Rest of Telangana is in lagna, lorded by Saturn. It will be better than 2nd house but violence will ensue on account of Saturn sitting in bitter enemy 8th house. Nakshatra-Chart for Vishaakhaa (Desha-chakra) Dec 3-16,2009 : Saturn lord of 2 & 3 in which entire Andhra Pradesh lies, and Saturn sits in 10th house making Parivartan-yoga (mutual lordship) with Rahu in 2nd. Saturn in 10th house of national chart creates political problems for the ruling party in the regions afflicted by Saturn. Third level of Chakra is Pradesh-Chakra. When made from Hyderabad, it gives Saturn as lord of 1,2 and sitting in 8th house in the annual Mesha kundali. In Jyeshthaa chart (Dec 3-16, 2009), Saturn is in 10th as lord of 2 & 3 having parivartana relation with Rahu in 2nd. Chart drawn on the map of Andhra Pradesh can give sectoral predictions. For instance, 6th house is in NE direction from Hyderabad and will witness relatively more strife. 12th house SW from Hyderabad will do same. Ketu in 6th house with debilitated Mars has Vedha of Hyderabad's H letter. Telangana's T was pierced by Mercury : Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra. Most troublesome Tithi is 9 and 14. Other divisionals have been incorporated only in Merucentric charts im my softwares, in Desha and Pradesha chakras only D1 results are given presently. I have to complete these programs by including other divisionals which sometimes become more important than D1 (eg, when the effective planet is exalted or in bad houses in D9). 2nd house influences language, and affliction of 2nd house by Saturn in these charts suggests linguistic strife. Daily carts can give us day to day developments at all 7 levels of chakras. -VJ ============ ========= = ==== , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Vinay ji, > > We see today lot of commotion regarding seperate state of Telengana, for & against it. Similar issues has croped up in North-eastern states for Gurkha land etc. > > Since you have worked with koorma chakras and other methods on Mundane matters, what is opinion on these issues?. > > What if other states also demand split ups, whatever be the political reason?. > > It looks like we are going back to pre-british periods with so many small states (villages) each ruled by their own kings & fighting then for supremancy-now on language and other matters. > > > regards > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Is it not Indian Polity has fancy to twists? Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services)  --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote: Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Friday, December 11, 2009, 6:09 AM  Dear Prashant ji, Krishna ji, Krishna ji has further added a twist by mentioning Presidents rule. It is very likely as Sun is having Navamsa in the 7th house and sitting in its Yoga karaka griha-mar's house. It is definite that the people may take an adverse stand and look at it as design of the Center. I feel both the Center as well as State are very as of now because of the debilation of the Mars. Further, the aspect of saturn on Sun + Venus as to be accounted for. However, in a couple of months, uttarayana starts, which see the center comming out in a better shape to exert itself on the people and snatch the price. The point is all these are politics and any thing goes there and our boys are very good at it. However, the question remains is whether this strategy shall benefit the people in the long run and India as a whole, which has to hold on together without a hole. What is scary is that instead of trying to identify as one nation, more and more divisive forces are grouping up whether it is in the name of a region or language. Will it come to a stage when I will have to take a visa to visit the next state? A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Fri, December 11, 2009 4:17:43 PM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12  Dear Krishna ji, Suresh jim, Vinay ji well even I am looking forward to the Koorma chakra picture and I hope it will also cover the other elements from the pandora's box gorkhaland, xior, bundlekhand, mithali, Vidarbha, saurashtra, Hareet pradesh etc such a sensless thing to elect a CLP leader they send 2-4 observers in any successful election even the leader is a pouplar one as shila diixit was delayed her 2nd trenure for weeks so too Ashok ghelot, digvijay singh etc to anouce such a result they did not feel fit to call a CLP meeting privately at least and check their views promise something and not deliver will TRS trust any central authority in future now ay and will any other movement do so in future no they have bitten more than they can chew prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > Fri, December 11, 2009 3:57:54 PM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Dear Prashnat Ji, As the events are getting complicated, it was for sure political driving assumes importance. Home Minister being a good driver announced in a press conference in the middle(little before) of the mid night on 9th Dec. what how ever matters is futuristic implication of united Andhra Pradesh. Sun representing the King, leader with Venus in jyeshta nakshtra of mercury in scorpio.indicating secrecy with which the decision of the Union Govt was announced in a preplanned manner. ..Incidentally dasa lord happens to be moon with saturn in Virgo kanya,8th house involving complications. Notably suicides and even blood shed.Note saturn;s aspect on 10th.Mars aspect on lagna also on jupiter.No wonder even if President rule is also imposed This will be a central set up and Govt can not go back on the announcement. Sun's entry into jupiter sign on 16th Dec will be very crucial as Rosaiah can not introduce resolution in Assembly We may have to due to lack of political wisdom ,wait and watch how in Assembly politicians behave having no idealogy of welfre state.Thanks to Moon Oriented Cancer.The valour come out for demonstration in a wrong perspective. In any case, Shri Suresh Ji is awaiting the result from Koorma Chakra of Shri V.Jha,which will be a guiding factor for mundane issues Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Friday, December 11, 2009, 2:24 AM Sear Krishna ji, I am seeing a press confrence LIVE by rosiah the CM in which there wa a jiurnalist who has given the time [as a question] on the anouncement by PC the union home minister at 11.30 pm of 9th the lagna is same D9 lagna will change the lagna will be varagattomma , like rah also rest r a bit more unfavorable for a peaceful situation emerging in rav-bud between 12/2 to 20/12/10 as Bud-ket r in the 12th in D9 with ketu some conspiracy, interigue can not be ruled out. prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > Fri, December 11, 2009 12:33:33 PM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Dear Sirs, My prashna chart made on 10th at 12.05P.M frustated me with moon and lagna lord saturn of kumbha in 8th.The dispositor Mercury with rahu in 11th in fiery sign.Mercury is ruled by ketu nakshtra moola4th in fiery sign.Rahu in sun's nakshtra of u.ashadha.The flare and flames. 2.Meaningful navamsa with suatrn in pisces a watery sign.with jupiter aspecting 5th from lagna Mercury in cancer. 3Rahu in Parliament 10th ruled by jupiter(In the navamsa) 4.Being a urdhvamukhi sign and fixed,the annoncement will be be adhered.In a months time the clarity of the issue will be known. 5.Poor un happy intellectuals rling 4th by ketu and 10th Rahu-politicians. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Friday, December 11, 2009, 1:46 AM Dear Suresh Babu ji, Krishna ji, members, assuming the anouncement was made on dec 10 MN say 00.01 hrs delhi sIMHA LAGNA 23 DEG 01 RISES CHANDRA IS 5 DEG kANYA Well it seems to be a non-starter in the first place with sani+chandra together delay can be inevitable isn't it in the 2nd house a family squabble with 12th lord chandra and 6th, 7th lord sani away by 6 deg diff Lagna lord is with sukra the 10th lord , 10th sukra is also cumbust as well. so will it fructify? sukra is in the 3rd in D9 and ene,my sign lAGNA LORD RAVI IS IN 5th in D9 with chandra+Kuja Guru has 4/25 Bindus in Makara and San with 4/31 in Kanya is with chandra in gochara the dasa is of ravi who is in the 4th traditionally speaking all major conflicts had taken place with rah-ketu in Vrishabha-vrischika axis so till then this can brew at best 47 Partition into India, pak 56 states break up, 65 Indo-pak war, 74-75 emergency, 84 indira gandhi assination and the sikh--hindu fissures. 82-93 the ayodhya movement, mumbai blasts 2002 had plenty of them 2011-12 can have a lot more if properly not dealt with there is need to have small states let it be in size, than divisive limits similarly river bank areas must be left for agriculture alone no industires that pollute them with no rivers where will we get power from, get food, grains etc only dry districts must be allowed industires thus india prospers most industrial revolutions have killed rivers rivers must unite us, not divides us. food ., hunger, opportunities can be shared in proper way than on language basis nehru did a grave mistake so has sonia now prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Fri, December 11, 2009 11:50:18 AM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues Dear Vinay ji, //Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra.// as the center has anounced about the spit, it doesn't matter now. But do you think, Astrologicaly, it will be beneficial for the state as well as Bharat? regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ VJha <vinayjhaa16@ > Fri, December 11, 2009 10:18:17 AM Re: Telengana and seperative issues Merucentric World Chart (PRITHVI-CHAKRA) for 2009-10 (Year beginning with Mesha Samkraanti) : D1: (1) India falls in 6th bhaava : bad. (2) Lord Venus is highly inauspicious by dint of being lord of 6th & 11th houses. (3) Mars is defeated by Venus in planetary war, hence the houses of Mars (5, 12) come in control of Venus. Both sit in 3rd house. (4) Both Venus and Mars are under firm control of Saturn (Bhaavesh-drishti of 57') : Saturn is lord of 2,3 and sits in 9th house of its bitter enemy Sun. Hence, Saturn is the final lord of India. Saturn is auspicious in 9th house, but very weak due to being in bitter enemy's house. But Saturn is Maarakesh and in Sarvatobhadra its Vedha is for L, M letters. Rahu in 2nd houses also pierces L. Hence, many bomb blasts in Lahore this year. D9: Saturn is exalted in 3rd house, and lord of 6th & 7th houses. Hence, combination of D1 and D9 is good for India in spite of having troubles from 6th house. DESHA-CHAKRA or national chart of India from Vidisha : Saturn governing Venus and Venus governing Mars as above. Saturn, lord of 1 & 2, sits in bitter enemy Sun's house in 8th while Venus and Mars sit in 2nd house. 8th house is towards NW, hence violence in that quarter , mainly in Pakistan. But 2nd house contains good deal of coastal andhra and eastern Telangana, causing violence by naxalites or linguistic strife & c & c. Rest of Telangana is in lagna, lorded by Saturn. It will be better than 2nd house but violence will ensue on account of Saturn sitting in bitter enemy 8th house. Nakshatra-Chart for Vishaakhaa (Desha-chakra) Dec 3-16,2009 : Saturn lord of 2 & 3 in which entire Andhra Pradesh lies, and Saturn sits in 10th house making Parivartan-yoga (mutual lordship) with Rahu in 2nd. Saturn in 10th house of national chart creates political problems for the ruling party in the regions afflicted by Saturn. Third level of Chakra is Pradesh-Chakra. When made from Hyderabad, it gives Saturn as lord of 1,2 and sitting in 8th house in the annual Mesha kundali. In Jyeshthaa chart (Dec 3-16, 2009), Saturn is in 10th as lord of 2 & 3 having parivartana relation with Rahu in 2nd. Chart drawn on the map of Andhra Pradesh can give sectoral predictions. For instance, 6th house is in NE direction from Hyderabad and will witness relatively more strife. 12th house SW from Hyderabad will do same. Ketu in 6th house with debilitated Mars has Vedha of Hyderabad's H letter. Telangana's T was pierced by Mercury : Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra. Most troublesome Tithi is 9 and 14. Other divisionals have been incorporated only in Merucentric charts im my softwares, in Desha and Pradesha chakras only D1 results are given presently. I have to complete these programs by including other divisionals which sometimes become more important than D1 (eg, when the effective planet is exalted or in bad houses in D9). 2nd house influences language, and affliction of 2nd house by Saturn in these charts suggests linguistic strife. Daily carts can give us day to day developments at all 7 levels of chakras. -VJ ============ ========= = ==== , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Vinay ji, > > We see today lot of commotion regarding seperate state of Telengana, for & against it. Similar issues has croped up in North-eastern states for Gurkha land etc. > > Since you have worked with koorma chakras and other methods on Mundane matters, what is opinion on these issues?. > > What if other states also demand split ups, whatever be the political reason?. > > It looks like we are going back to pre-british periods with so many small states (villages) each ruled by their own kings & fighting then for supremancy-now on language and other matters. > > > regards > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Dear Krishna ji, in a way u r right as we can expect such central rule or WRIT as is is the case now if they all really resign none of them will ever get relected not even any new cong-i candiate for their collective failure as cong-i hi comand always take credit for winning on its chief any y trouble is pused to local leadership all the time even electrol losses. so no one really dare resign esp telangna ones if they do they can;t win again either any party than TRS now as they have most of the goons with them now I can't see sankranti alone bringing peace as Kuja is Neecha till May 23 at least [rtaman's] and in any case till rah is neecha in Vrischika no real division will take place - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 ________________________________ Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 Fri, December 11, 2009 11:04:15 PM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Is it not Indian Polity has fancy to twists? Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Friday, December 11, 2009, 6:09 AM Dear Prashant ji, Krishna ji, Krishna ji has further added a twist by mentioning Presidents rule. It is very likely as Sun is having Navamsa in the 7th house and sitting in its Yoga karaka griha-mar's house. It is definite that the people may take an adverse stand and look at it as design of the Center. I feel both the Center as well as State are very as of now because of the debilation of the Mars. Further, the aspect of saturn on Sun + Venus as to be accounted for. However, in a couple of months, uttarayana starts, which see the center comming out in a better shape to exert itself on the people and snatch the price. The point is all these are politics and any thing goes there and our boys are very good at it. However, the question remains is whether this strategy shall benefit the people in the long run and India as a whole, which has to hold on together without a hole. What is scary is that instead of trying to identify as one nation, more and more divisive forces are grouping up whether it is in the name of a region or language. Will it come to a stage when I will have to take a visa to visit the next state? A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Fri, December 11, 2009 4:17:43 PM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Dear Krishna ji, Suresh jim, Vinay ji well even I am looking forward to the Koorma chakra picture and I hope it will also cover the other elements from the pandora's box gorkhaland, xior, bundlekhand, mithali, Vidarbha, saurashtra, Hareet pradesh etc such a sensless thing to elect a CLP leader they send 2-4 observers in any successful election even the leader is a pouplar one as shila diixit was delayed her 2nd trenure for weeks so too Ashok ghelot, digvijay singh etc to anouce such a result they did not feel fit to call a CLP meeting privately at least and check their views promise something and not deliver will TRS trust any central authority in future now ay and will any other movement do so in future no they have bitten more than they can chew prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > Fri, December 11, 2009 3:57:54 PM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Dear Prashnat Ji, As the events are getting complicated, it was for sure political driving assumes importance. Home Minister being a good driver announced in a press conference in the middle(little before) of the mid night on 9th Dec. what how ever matters is futuristic implication of united Andhra Pradesh. Sun representing the King, leader with Venus in jyeshta nakshtra of mercury in scorpio.indicating secrecy with which the decision of the Union Govt was announced in a preplanned manner. ..Incidentally dasa lord happens to be moon with saturn in Virgo kanya,8th house involving complications. Notably suicides and even blood shed.Note saturn;s aspect on 10th.Mars aspect on lagna also on jupiter.No wonder even if President rule is also imposed This will be a central set up and Govt can not go back on the announcement. Sun's entry into jupiter sign on 16th Dec will be very crucial as Rosaiah can not introduce resolution in Assembly We may have to due to lack of political wisdom ,wait and watch how in Assembly politicians behave having no idealogy of welfre state.Thanks to Moon Oriented Cancer.The valour come out for demonstration in a wrong perspective. In any case, Shri Suresh Ji is awaiting the result from Koorma Chakra of Shri V.Jha,which will be a guiding factor for mundane issues Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Friday, December 11, 2009, 2:24 AM Sear Krishna ji, I am seeing a press confrence LIVE by rosiah the CM in which there wa a jiurnalist who has given the time [as a question] on the anouncement by PC the union home minister at 11.30 pm of 9th the lagna is same D9 lagna will change the lagna will be varagattomma , like rah also rest r a bit more unfavorable for a peaceful situation emerging in rav-bud between 12/2 to 20/12/10 as Bud-ket r in the 12th in D9 with ketu some conspiracy, interigue can not be ruled out. prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > Fri, December 11, 2009 12:33:33 PM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Dear Sirs, My prashna chart made on 10th at 12.05P.M frustated me with moon and lagna lord saturn of kumbha in 8th.The dispositor Mercury with rahu in 11th in fiery sign.Mercury is ruled by ketu nakshtra moola4th in fiery sign.Rahu in sun's nakshtra of u.ashadha.The flare and flames. 2.Meaningful navamsa with suatrn in pisces a watery sign.with jupiter aspecting 5th from lagna Mercury in cancer. 3Rahu in Parliament 10th ruled by jupiter(In the navamsa) 4.Being a urdhvamukhi sign and fixed,the annoncement will be be adhered.In a months time the clarity of the issue will be known. 5.Poor un happy intellectuals rling 4th by ketu and 10th Rahu-politicians. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues 11/12 Friday, December 11, 2009, 1:46 AM Dear Suresh Babu ji, Krishna ji, members, assuming the anouncement was made on dec 10 MN say 00.01 hrs delhi sIMHA LAGNA 23 DEG 01 RISES CHANDRA IS 5 DEG kANYA Well it seems to be a non-starter in the first place with sani+chandra together delay can be inevitable isn't it in the 2nd house a family squabble with 12th lord chandra and 6th, 7th lord sani away by 6 deg diff Lagna lord is with sukra the 10th lord , 10th sukra is also cumbust as well. so will it fructify? sukra is in the 3rd in D9 and ene,my sign lAGNA LORD RAVI IS IN 5th in D9 with chandra+Kuja Guru has 4/25 Bindus in Makara and San with 4/31 in Kanya is with chandra in gochara the dasa is of ravi who is in the 4th traditionally speaking all major conflicts had taken place with rah-ketu in Vrishabha-vrischika axis so till then this can brew at best 47 Partition into India, pak 56 states break up, 65 Indo-pak war, 74-75 emergency, 84 indira gandhi assination and the sikh--hindu fissures. 82-93 the ayodhya movement, mumbai blasts 2002 had plenty of them 2011-12 can have a lot more if properly not dealt with there is need to have small states let it be in size, than divisive limits similarly river bank areas must be left for agriculture alone no industires that pollute them with no rivers where will we get power from, get food, grains etc only dry districts must be allowed industires thus india prospers most industrial revolutions have killed rivers rivers must unite us, not divides us. food ., hunger, opportunities can be shared in proper way than on language basis nehru did a grave mistake so has sonia now prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Fri, December 11, 2009 11:50:18 AM Re: Re: Telengana and seperative issues Dear Vinay ji, //Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra.// as the center has anounced about the spit, it doesn't matter now. But do you think, Astrologicaly, it will be beneficial for the state as well as Bharat? regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ VJha <vinayjhaa16@ > Fri, December 11, 2009 10:18:17 AM Re: Telengana and seperative issues Merucentric World Chart (PRITHVI-CHAKRA) for 2009-10 (Year beginning with Mesha Samkraanti) : D1: (1) India falls in 6th bhaava : bad. (2) Lord Venus is highly inauspicious by dint of being lord of 6th & 11th houses. (3) Mars is defeated by Venus in planetary war, hence the houses of Mars (5, 12) come in control of Venus. Both sit in 3rd house. (4) Both Venus and Mars are under firm control of Saturn (Bhaavesh-drishti of 57') : Saturn is lord of 2,3 and sits in 9th house of its bitter enemy Sun. Hence, Saturn is the final lord of India. Saturn is auspicious in 9th house, but very weak due to being in bitter enemy's house. But Saturn is Maarakesh and in Sarvatobhadra its Vedha is for L, M letters. Rahu in 2nd houses also pierces L. Hence, many bomb blasts in Lahore this year. D9: Saturn is exalted in 3rd house, and lord of 6th & 7th houses. Hence, combination of D1 and D9 is good for India in spite of having troubles from 6th house. DESHA-CHAKRA or national chart of India from Vidisha : Saturn governing Venus and Venus governing Mars as above. Saturn, lord of 1 & 2, sits in bitter enemy Sun's house in 8th while Venus and Mars sit in 2nd house. 8th house is towards NW, hence violence in that quarter , mainly in Pakistan. But 2nd house contains good deal of coastal andhra and eastern Telangana, causing violence by naxalites or linguistic strife & c & c. Rest of Telangana is in lagna, lorded by Saturn. It will be better than 2nd house but violence will ensue on account of Saturn sitting in bitter enemy 8th house. Nakshatra-Chart for Vishaakhaa (Desha-chakra) Dec 3-16,2009 : Saturn lord of 2 & 3 in which entire Andhra Pradesh lies, and Saturn sits in 10th house making Parivartan-yoga (mutual lordship) with Rahu in 2nd. Saturn in 10th house of national chart creates political problems for the ruling party in the regions afflicted by Saturn. Third level of Chakra is Pradesh-Chakra. When made from Hyderabad, it gives Saturn as lord of 1,2 and sitting in 8th house in the annual Mesha kundali. In Jyeshthaa chart (Dec 3-16, 2009), Saturn is in 10th as lord of 2 & 3 having parivartana relation with Rahu in 2nd. Chart drawn on the map of Andhra Pradesh can give sectoral predictions. For instance, 6th house is in NE direction from Hyderabad and will witness relatively more strife. 12th house SW from Hyderabad will do same. Ketu in 6th house with debilitated Mars has Vedha of Hyderabad's H letter. Telangana's T was pierced by Mercury : Centre announced Telangana State on Wednesday. Saturn has strong enmical aspect relation with Moon which pierces A of Andhra. Most troublesome Tithi is 9 and 14. Other divisionals have been incorporated only in Merucentric charts im my softwares, in Desha and Pradesha chakras only D1 results are given presently. I have to complete these programs by including other divisionals which sometimes become more important than D1 (eg, when the effective planet is exalted or in bad houses in D9). 2nd house influences language, and affliction of 2nd house by Saturn in these charts suggests linguistic strife. Daily carts can give us day to day developments at all 7 levels of chakras. -VJ ============ ========= = ==== , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Vinay ji, > > We see today lot of commotion regarding seperate state of Telengana, for & against it. Similar issues has croped up in North-eastern states for Gurkha land etc. > > Since you have worked with koorma chakras and other methods on Mundane matters, what is opinion on these issues?. > > What if other states also demand split ups, whatever be the political reason?. > > It looks like we are going back to pre-british periods with so many small states (villages) each ruled by their own kings & fighting then for supremancy-now on language and other matters. > > > regards > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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