Att.Vattem Sir and learned members: Need Guidance in Lagan Chart

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Dear Bharat Ji,[1]In any case your Correct time of birth can't be 06:18AM

because it is not in accordance with rules regarding rectification of birth

time.I took Lahiri,K.P,Raman etc ayanamsas and 6:18AM time to calculate

S/L ,SS/L of ascendant and Star lord ,Sub lord of Moon.I found that S/L ,SS/

L of ascendant are not equal to Star lord,Sub lord of Moon.Besides this

rectification of birth time rule is applicable with in only 30 minutes.Hence

there is no sense to addopt 6:18AM time as your correct birth time.

But the Correct birth time for Lahiri ayanamsa will be 05:48:27AM,for K.P

ayanamsa birth time will be 5:47:59AM and for Raman ayanamsa

correct birth time will be 5:43:07AM.Because at that rectified Sub Lord,SS Lord

of ascendant is equal to Sub Lord of Moon and Star Lord of Moon.This rectified

time for each system is in accordance with rule.

You are not manglic in any case and there is no Mars Dosh in your Kundali.

If you don't believe even in correct rectification of birth time,you should

take up your own reported birth time 5:45AM as Correct birth time.

But it is wrong to accept 6:18AM in any case.

The latest definition of Mars Dosha,as per K.P.,that I have, goes like this

....      Mars Dosha is said to be present only if : " Mars in Sun's star,or

it's own star,if posited in the Houses I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII counted from Moon

or Venus is said to cause Mars Dosha... "

                                   One may ask

as to,why should Mars be considered evil only when it signifies the Houses

I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII from Lagna,Moon or Venus ?

                                       1)

Lagna denotes health and longevity and personal characteristics. As Lagna will

become a Maraka House to the VIIth, i.e., partner or wife...

                                       2)

The IInd house denotes the happiness of the Family,and domestic life,increase/

decrease in the number of the Family by marriage and birth of children and death

of children...

Further the IInd house is the VIIIth to the VIIth,showing danger to the

partner...

                                       3) 

The IVth house denotes domestic environments. ..Our Sages have declared that

evil planets occupying the IVth or VIIIth from a Bhava spoils the Bhava...hence

Mars on IV is eil to the Ascendant,i. e., to the health and belongings of the

native...

                                       4) 

The VIIth house shows the legal bondage,and the wife/husband of the native,in

other words, the longevity of the native or his/her wife/husband. ..Hence the

positioning of Mars in VII is not conducive to the health,longevity etc.,

                                    

  5)  The VIIIth house shows the difficultiesof the native and the finance

and fortune of his/her partner...as well as their longevity...

                                       6) 

The VIIIth is also known as the Mangalyasthana, i.e., the duration of the

married life...again, therefore Mars in the VIIIth is evil...

                              

        7)  The XIIth house stands for the real pleasure the partners

derove,,the deception,loss etc...

                                   The above

explains the rationale of the houses being considered for the occupation by

Mars,as evil...or MARS DOSHA... !

With thanks and regards, 

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

 

Sat, December 12, 2009 6:47:25 AM

Re: Need Guidance in Lagan Chart

 

 

Dear Bharat Ji,

U will be considered fortunate if you happen to be virgo,as Manglik effcet

effect will be nullifies.,For simha born people how ever sun as a ruler of the

sign will not impact manglik dosha effects.

The problems of relationships with spouse and other have to be faced by leo

rooted people as they tend to be dominating,exercise their desires and seek

fulfilment.leos ar think and act like rulers and spend time away from others in

a indolent fashion.so in a way mangal during dasa may not act adversely as

relation between mangal and surya is very in timate.

2.Your other issues if any can be looked into through chalit chart,divisional

chart based on your original timing of birth not the corrected one.Let your

purohit;s conviction be used for his own advices for tarabalam,fixing of good

time for panchangam purpose.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

 

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, bharat <bharat_9m (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

bharat <bharat_9m (AT) (DOT) co.in>

Re: Need Guidance in Lagan Chart

 

Friday, December 11, 2009, 1:23 PM

 

 

 

Hi,

 

Thanks to everyone for the response and their valuable suggestions.

 

I posted this question on the forum to know weather i am Manglik or not. On

going through the Astrology software's (Parashara's, kundli-Pro) it has put me

in doubt that which horoscope to consider.

 

I inquired with the PanditJee again and he said that at the given time

(24-sep-1982 05:45 AM) of birth the Lagna (Virgo) in Hissar(Haryana) was at zero

degree.

 

It affects the persons born at that time. Its because of that my Lagna has

become 'Virgo' and not the 'Leo'.

 

I will be very thankful if some one can guide me weather i am manglik or not and

when are the chances for me of getting married.

 

Thanks In Advance,

Bharat

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

wrote:

>

> so sir,

> " software " and " bush " r hand in hand

> he one is for the other.

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

>  

>

> --- On Thu, 12/10/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> Re: Need Guidance in Lagan Chart

>

> Thursday, December 10, 2009, 7:59 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Agreed! And this *bush* does not even have the initials 'G.W' and hence any

'battery' or aggression would constitute as cruelty towards innocent Software!

;-)

>

> RR_,

>

> , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > If the soft ware person( as one asking) can not explain,Pandit ji who change

timing can never be able to explain.

> > we r beating the bush

> >

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > (For all counseling services)

> >  

> >

> > --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ ...>

> > Re: Need Guidance in Lagan Chart

> >

> > Thursday, December 10, 2009, 4:16 AM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Prashant ji,

> >

> > Here the question is regarding the correct TOB and " Zero crossing over " and

HENCE the TOB should be 6:18 instead of 5:45AM. a difference of 33mnts.

> >

> > What is this zero crossing over? Is it planets at the edge of signs?

> > I have given below the planetory positions for both the times as per lahiri

& raman ayanamsa.

> >

> > As per Lahiri it is impossible for the planet positions to have changed as

he had stated within 33 mnts except that of lagna.

> >

> > However as per Raman Ayanamsa, Saturn has crossed to Thula sign but not on

that day.

> >

> > The point is even if the planets has crossed to other sign, assuming that

software is wrong, how does it alter the TOB?.

> >

> > Lahiri Ayanamsa.

> > 5:45AM

> > PLANET- LONG-  RASI LONG-RASI

> > Asc-- 149.21-  29.21- Simh

> > Sun-- 157.01-  7.01-- Kanya

> > Merc- 172.43-  22.43- Kanya

> > Ven-- 146.22-  26.22- Simh

> > Mar-- 219.07-  9.07-- Vrischik

> > Jup-- 196.36-  16.36- Thula

> > Sat-- 178.35-  28.35- Kanya

> > Moo-- 234.22-  24.22- Vrischik

> > Rah-- 75.29--  15.29- Mithun

> > Ket-- 255.29-  15.29- Dhanu

> > Gul-- 115.16-  25.16- Karkat

> > 6:18AM

> > Asc-- 156.37-  6.37-- Kanya

> > Sun-- 157.03-  7.03-- Kanya

> > Merc- 172.43-  22.43- Kanya

> > Ven-- 146.24-  26.24- Simh

> > Mar-- 219.08-  9.08-- Vrischik

> > Jup-- 196.36-  16.36- Thula

> > Sat-- 178.36-  28.36- Kanya

> > Moo-- 234.39-  24.39- Vrischik

> > Rah-- 75.29--  15.29- Mithun

> > Ket-- 255.29-  15.29- Dhanu

> > Gul-- 115.16-  25.16- Karkat

> > Raman Ayanama

> > 5:45AM

> > Asc-- 150.48-  0.48-- Kanya

> > Sun-- 158.28- 8.28-- Kanya

> > Merc- 174.1--  24.1-- Kanya

> > Ven-- 147.49-  27.49- Simh

> > Mar-- 220.34-  10.34- Vrischik

> > Jup-- 198.02-  18.02- Thula

> > Sat-- 180.02-  0.02-- Thula

> > Moo-- 235.49-  25.49- Vrischik

> > Rah-- 76.55--  16.55- Mithun

> > Ket-- 256.55-  16.55- Dhanu

> > Gul-- 118.02-  28.02- Karkat

> > 6:18AM

> > Asc-- 158.04-  8.04-- Kanya

> > Sun-- 158.29-  8.29-- Kanya

> > Merc- 174.1--  24.1-- Kanya

> > Ven-- 147.5--  27.5-- Simh

> > Mar-- 220.35-  10.35- Vrischik

> > Jup-- 198.03-  18.03- Thula

> > Sat-- 180.02-  0.02-- Thula

> > Moo-- 236.05-  26.05- Vrischik

> > Rah-- 76.55--  16.55- Mithun

> > Ket-- 256.55-  16.55- Dhanu

> > Gul-- 118.02-  28.02- Karkat

> >

> >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

> >

> > Thu, December 10, 2009 1:41:22 PM

> > Re: Need Guidance in Lagan Chart

> >

> >  

> > Dear Suresh ji,, Krishna ji,

> >

> > true we cant find such comments based one a particular fancy or leaning and

with no mention if the sw is a standad product I've seen some s/w give errors on

slow moving grahas sani, Kuja even JHora has some diff with respect to Parashara

Light, Visual jyotish and what we r using with ICAS, IAS and my team have worked

with

> >

> > IAS was 1st started by K ashwattappa Indian astrological studies, is still

functioning in chennai and later its members were part of the INITIAL team of

ICAS co-founded by B V RAMAN ji iad joined it just at that time

> >

> > i did my classical works training under ashwatappa and c a padnabham in IAS

only.

> > B5 ICAS came up with its sylabus.

> >

> > on the s/w I have read sri KN RAO ji saw for Indian bron use s/w developed

in India and for American ones sue the american developed ones this is max I can

understand, may be as more of local cordinates database is available in

respective developed countries for good calculations, else can't find logic here

too

> >

> > but PL has over 15 laks places all over the world and uses a good atlas.

> >

> > PRASHANT

> >

> > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth

data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in

the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside

the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group

for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

> >

> > Thu, December 10, 2009 11:49:25 AM

> > Re: Need Guidance in Lagan Chart

> >

> > Dear Bharat,

> >

> > This is weirdest case I have come across about tob correction and

allegations against computerised horoscopes by local astrologers.

> >

> > what zero degree chane is he talking about?

> >

> > If your recorded time 5:45AM make the chart for that time only. Let him

believe whatever he wants.

> >

> > Your time will not chage to 6:18AM.

> >

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > bharat <bharat_9m (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> >

> > Thu, December 10, 2009 12:44:59 AM

> > Need Guidance in Lagan Chart

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I am Bharat and working as a software professional in bangalore.

> >

> > My date of Birth is 24 sep 1982 05:45 AM Hissar(Harayana)

> >

> > If my Lagan chart is prepared using the date mentioned above it comes as

> > shown below:

> >

> > Lagna Chart acc. to [ 24 sep 1982 05:45 AM ] Hissar(Harayana)

> >

> > Ist House - No.5 -- ven

> > 2nd House - No.6 -- sun, mer, sat

> > 3rd House - No.7 -- jup

> > 4th House - No.8 -- mar, moon

> > 5th House - No.9 -- ketu

> > 6th House - No.10 -- ---

> > 7th House - No.11 -- ---

> > 8th House - No.12 -- ---

> > 9th House - No.1 -- ---

> > 10th House - No.2 -- ---

> > 11th House - No.3 -- rah

> > 12th House - No.4 -- ---

> >

> > According to our pandit jee for the above given date of birth there

> > was some Zero degree change occured which we need to consider.

> >

> > He said computer can not make accurate kundli as it don't consider the

> > above fact.

> > According to him computer will give the below chart if the time is

> > changed to 06:18 Am

> > and my date of birth will become then 24 sep 1982 06:18 AM

> > Hissar(Harayana)

> >

> > My Lagna Chart acc to [ 24 sep 1982 06:18 AM ] Hissar(Harayana) as

> > follows:

> >

> > Ist House - No.6 -- Sun, Mer, Sat

> > 2nd House - No.7 -- Jup

> > 3rd House - No.8 -- Mar, Mon

> > 4th House - No.9 -- Ket

> > 5th House - No.10 -- ---

> > 6th House - No.11 -- ---

> > 7th House - No.12 -- ---

> > 8th House - No.1 -- ---

> > 9th House - No.2 -- ---

> > 10th House - No.3 -- Rah

> > 11th House - No.4 -- ---

> > 12th House - No.5 -- Ven

> >

> > Please guide me which lagan chart should i consider.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards,

> > Bharat

> >

> >