Guest guest Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Sir, Pls check following horo of new born and site any negatives and positives are there .Alos pls provide comprehensive feedack . DOB : 23-NOV-2009 TIme : 15:40 PM Place : Delhi Regards mukesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Dear Mukesh, There is a practice in our place (Kerala) that horoscope is not analyzed before the 1st year birthday of a new born. Regards Santhosh _____ On Behalf Of Mukesh Anand Monday, December 14, 2009 2:17 PM New Born Horo Analysis Sir, Pls check following horo of new born and site any negatives and positives are there .Alos pls provide comprehensive feedack . DOB : 23-NOV-2009 TIme : 15:40 PM Place : Delhi Regards mukesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Dear Mr.Mukesh, Pl.confirm the following birth descriptions to check-out horo-accuracy before we proceed further with the analysis. 1) The mother of native was taken to hospital from a wide old structured house located at main road where there must be open yard with in the building to a hospital located at main road also wide structured builidng and also south north facing. 2) The delivery/labour room was also good wide squarry type and inside the labosur room one mixed complexioned proportionate structured lady doctor was there. 3)Whether the father rached recently at the spot of delivery from outside who is a very good smart looking and was putting up dresses of levish-green and yellow shirts over black/indigo blue trouser. 4) Both where native's birh hospital and house were opposed by good white buildings infront. 5) Whether infront of the house there appears single cocunut tree and front building must be having pegion inside the house. 6)The mother first admitted in a huge squarry room and bad was on south north facing but not in any corner of the room. 7) Mother was putting-up light green red dreses. 8)Do the mother's structure fair,tall,slim and pointed nose. Pl.confirm the above for further analysis. With best wishes, P K Tripathy. ________________________________ Mukesh Anand <anandjyotish Mon, December 14, 2009 2:16:53 PM New Born Horo Analysis  Sir,       Pls check following horo of new born and site any negatives and positives are there .Alos pls provide comprehensive feedack .  DOB : 23-NOV-2009 TIme : 15:40 PM Place : Delhi   Regards mukesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Dear Mukesh Ji,Baby is born in auspicious Nakshatra Poorvasadha Ist Pad and during DBA of Venus-Sun-Mars.Mars is posited in Aslesha Nak. lord of which is Mercury.Mercury being 6th cusp lord placed in 8th makes the native wealthy.But some problem to mother can not be denied.Jupiter and Mars are placed in debiliated sign but not sub lord of any cusp.Hence there is no special role of Jupiter and Mars in the life of baby.Weigh the practical role of debiliated Mars at present as the baby is born in anterdasa of debiliated Mars.I have discussed above what effect Mars has to yield.Venus is very auspicious planet for this baby.It is significator of 2,7,9,10,11th cusp and sub lord of 5th,7th cusp,well placed in kendra in its own cusp.It will provide all the happiness of life.This baby is suggested to put on real diamond or Opal for strengthening Venus. With good wishes, Dhirendra Nath Misra  ________________________________ Mukesh Anand <anandjyotish Mon, December 14, 2009 2:16:53 PM New Born Horo Analysis  Sir,       Pls check following horo of new born and site any negatives and positives are there .Alos pls provide comprehensive feedack .  DOB : 23-NOV-2009 TIme : 15:40 PM Place : Delhi   Regards mukesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Dear Santosh,Very good.It means analysis of Balarisht Dosh is left aside in Kerala for one year.But Mukesh Ji is resident of Delhi.Please let him ask. With thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra  ________________________________ Santhosh <santhosh Mon, December 14, 2009 4:07:48 PM RE: New Born Horo Analysis  Dear Mukesh, There is a practice in our place (Kerala) that horoscope is not analyzed before the 1st year birthday of a new born. Regards Santhosh _____ [] On Behalf Of Mukesh Anand Monday, December 14, 2009 2:17 PM New Born Horo Analysis Sir, Pls check following horo of new born and site any negatives and positives are there .Alos pls provide comprehensive feedack . DOB : 23-NOV-2009 TIme : 15:40 PM Place : Delhi Regards mukesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Dear misraji, Good to meet you here. Yes he is from delhi and free to ask. I just mentioned a practice in our part of the world. Anyway the concept is dont count the chicks before hatching. But then you will counter it saying the chick is already hatched. Regards and thanks Santhosh Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:08:54 Re: New Born Horo Analysis Dear Santosh,Very good.It means analysis of Balarisht Dosh is left aside in Kerala for one year.But Mukesh Ji is resident of Delhi.Please let him ask. With thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra  ________________________________ Santhosh <santhosh Mon, December 14, 2009 4:07:48 PM RE: New Born Horo Analysis  Dear Mukesh, There is a practice in our place (Kerala) that horoscope is not analyzed before the 1st year birthday of a new born. Regards Santhosh _____ [] On Behalf Of Mukesh Anand Monday, December 14, 2009 2:17 PM New Born Horo Analysis Sir, Pls check following horo of new born and site any negatives and positives are there .Alos pls provide comprehensive feedack . DOB : 23-NOV-2009 TIme : 15:40 PM Place : Delhi Regards mukesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 I believe this is unfair to saya anything will change even after one year . moment the child is born everything is set by god and nothing will change . --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Santhosh <santhosh wrote: Santhosh <santhosh RE: New Born Horo Analysis Monday, December 14, 2009, 10:37 AM Â Dear Mukesh, There is a practice in our place (Kerala) that horoscope is not analyzed before the 1st year birthday of a new born. Regards Santhosh _____ [] On Behalf Of Mukesh Anand Monday, December 14, 2009 2:17 PM New Born Horo Analysis Sir, Pls check following horo of new born and site any negatives and positives are there .Alos pls provide comprehensive feedack . DOB : 23-NOV-2009 TIme : 15:40 PM Place : Delhi Regards mukesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Direndrajee,                   We respect other rituals but from my understanding if you know from begining that some one has balaarish or some remedial measures can be taken that should be analyzed moment child is born ..Only thing is life of baby as per god is uncertain till 8th or 12th year of life nothing else but the nakashtra and position of planets in which child is born that is not going to change even if we analyzed it or not or analyze after one year . So this practice of not analyzing horosope is igonorance nothing else. --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra Re: New Born Horo Analysis Monday, December 14, 2009, 7:08 PM  Dear Santosh,Very good.It means analysis of Balarisht Dosh is left aside in Kerala for one year.But Mukesh Ji is resident of Delhi.Please let him ask. With thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra  ____________ _________ _________ __ Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> Mon, December 14, 2009 4:07:48 PM RE: New Born Horo Analysis  Dear Mukesh, There is a practice in our place (Kerala) that horoscope is not analyzed before the 1st year birthday of a new born. Regards Santhosh _____ [Jyotish_ Remedies] On Behalf Of Mukesh Anand Monday, December 14, 2009 2:17 PM New Born Horo Analysis Sir, Pls check following horo of new born and site any negatives and positives are there .Alos pls provide comprehensive feedack . DOB : 23-NOV-2009 TIme : 15:40 PM Place : Delhi Regards mukesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Dear Mukesh & Others, I was silent on this matter for several reasons. But your words & other observations needs some clarifications. //So this practice of not analyzing horosope is igonorance nothing else.// Be carefull when you use such words. After all you like any parent expect & hope that the child and the parents will have & should have a good future. Making Jatapatri (Jataka) for the first time is a ritual that is done during Namakarana. The purohit is offered special honors, dana etc and he makes the chart of the child and spells if any thing has to be done for the Janma doshas etc. This is a very special moment as only devine grace is invoked for the well being of the child & the family. Balarishta & sadhyomarana yogas are special and beyond the normal concepts of Jataka as it involvss Karmic element and only devine grace can save the concerned, if at all it is destined so. When we think of Devine grace, it means, the grace of not only god, but more importantly the grace of parents, elders, wellwishers, gurujans, sant lok etc. We can never be sure how & from where that grace could come by. But it depends mostly on the way of life of the parents, their thinking, way of life, behaviour with others etc. Even a small act of feeding a poor hungry person and his heartfelt thanks may be the last straw in saving the life of child. May be the lord must have ordained that the grace should come that way. That is why so much importance was given to way of life , actions, thoughts, behaviour etc in Indian Culture. As far for the child, the rest is left to lord. There is also a practice of offering the child(both male & female) to the care of any particular deity. The parents simply carries on the taking care of the child as if the child belongs to that deity - just like caretakers servant of the lord. The child is received back from the lord only at the time of Upanayana or marriage. So in this concept, the belief is that the child belongs to the lord till the age of upanayana or marriage, maturity. Further, there truely exists a physcological factor also to this. due to lack of the above, which has taken a nasty turn due to higher focus on materialistic needs and due to character & traits, and availability of astrologers, today it has become almost a phobia to check hooroscopes and try to seek advice and run around doing remedies, all the while missing the real essence as stated above. This is evident from persistant messages seen even on this forum and same appearing on other forums as well. When some illnatured or illinformed astrologer makes even a small adverse observation, it becomes a histeria for the parents. This is practical & a natural human behavior. This also why the chart of child is not read till the child grows to an age and not out of ignorence but out of much higher personal & social needs. It(reading) is surely done if persistant adverse effects , illness etc are noticed. Hope you understood the reasons and the need to be coutious while making such statements, to get the real facts. It would be much better to work to get all those grace which shall come to aid at the appropriate moment far effective than any Mantras at this age of the child. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. , Mukesh Anand <anandjyotish wrote: > > Direndrajee, >                   We respect other rituals but from my understanding if you know from begining that some one has balaarish or some remedial measures can be taken that should be analyzed moment child is born ..Only thing is life of baby as per god is uncertain till 8th or 12th year of life nothing else but the nakashtra and position of planets in which child is born that is not going to change even if we analyzed it or not or analyze after one year . So this practice of not analyzing horosope is igonorance nothing else. > > --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra > Re: New Born Horo Analysis > > Monday, December 14, 2009, 7:08 PM > > >  > > > > Dear Santosh,Very good.It means analysis of Balarisht Dosh is left aside in Kerala for one year.But Mukesh Ji is resident of Delhi.Please let him ask. > With thanks & regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra >  > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> > > Mon, December 14, 2009 4:07:48 PM > RE: New Born Horo Analysis > >  > Dear Mukesh, > > There is a practice in our place (Kerala) that horoscope is not analyzed > before the 1st year birthday of a new born. > > Regards > > Santhosh > > _____ > > > [Jyotish_ Remedies] On Behalf Of Mukesh Anand > Monday, December 14, 2009 2:17 PM > > New Born Horo Analysis > > Sir, > Pls check following horo of new born and site any negatives and > positives are there .Alos pls provide comprehensive feedack . > > DOB : 23-NOV-2009 > TIme : 15:40 PM > Place : Delhi > > Regards > mukesh > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Mukesh Ji, Horoscope is made but no interpretations.It is not proper that at that stage to give any forecasts unless some specific issues of health etc are experienced. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Â --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Mukesh Anand <anandjyotish wrote: Mukesh Anand <anandjyotish RE: New Born Horo Analysis Monday, December 14, 2009, 10:31 PM Â I believe this is unfair to saya anything will change even after one year . moment the child is born everything is set by god and nothing will change .. --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> wrote: Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> RE: New Born Horo Analysis Monday, December 14, 2009, 10:37 AM Â Dear Mukesh, There is a practice in our place (Kerala) that horoscope is not analyzed before the 1st year birthday of a new born. Regards Santhosh _____ [Jyotish_ Remedies] On Behalf Of Mukesh Anand Monday, December 14, 2009 2:17 PM New Born Horo Analysis Sir, Pls check following horo of new born and site any negatives and positives are there .Alos pls provide comprehensive feedack . DOB : 23-NOV-2009 TIme : 15:40 PM Place : Delhi Regards mukesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Respected Suresh sir, As some problem in my Internet connection i could not see any mails for the past couple of weeks,now the problem being rectified by the service providers(?). In deed,as usual nice and valid reply reg.New born horoscopes.once i was told by my guru that the child supposed to have any arista (up to 12 yrs),it is because of the Karmic residue of the parents and not that of the child,that is why Ayusha homam is performed up to 5 years of the child,on the day of the janma nakshatra of the child every year,there after the Sacred upanayanam is performed and the child is sent to Gurukulam for learning purpose,which is about 7 years.on returning from the gurukul,they organise marriage(those days child marriage is prevalant) I had down loaded the kalachakara excel sheet,which is very nice indeed,yet to study on the subject. with warm regards S.Ravi Shankar --- On Tue, 15/12/09, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag wrote: Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag Re: New Born Horo Analysis Tuesday, 15 December, 2009, 6:16 AM  Dear Mukesh & Others, I was silent on this matter for several reasons. But your words & other observations needs some clarifications. //So this practice of not analyzing horosope is igonorance nothing else.// Be carefull when you use such words. After all you like any parent expect & hope that the child and the parents will have & should have a good future. Making Jatapatri (Jataka) for the first time is a ritual that is done during Namakarana. The purohit is offered special honors, dana etc and he makes the chart of the child and spells if any thing has to be done for the Janma doshas etc. This is a very special moment as only devine grace is invoked for the well being of the child & the family. Balarishta & sadhyomarana yogas are special and beyond the normal concepts of Jataka as it involvss Karmic element and only devine grace can save the concerned, if at all it is destined so. When we think of Devine grace, it means, the grace of not only god, but more importantly the grace of parents, elders, wellwishers, gurujans, sant lok etc. We can never be sure how & from where that grace could come by. But it depends mostly on the way of life of the parents, their thinking, way of life, behaviour with others etc. Even a small act of feeding a poor hungry person and his heartfelt thanks may be the last straw in saving the life of child. May be the lord must have ordained that the grace should come that way. That is why so much importance was given to way of life , actions, thoughts, behaviour etc in Indian Culture. As far for the child, the rest is left to lord. There is also a practice of offering the child(both male & female) to the care of any particular deity. The parents simply carries on the taking care of the child as if the child belongs to that deity - just like caretakers servant of the lord. The child is received back from the lord only at the time of Upanayana or marriage. So in this concept, the belief is that the child belongs to the lord till the age of upanayana or marriage, maturity. Further, there truely exists a physcological factor also to this. due to lack of the above, which has taken a nasty turn due to higher focus on materialistic needs and due to character & traits, and availability of astrologers, today it has become almost a phobia to check hooroscopes and try to seek advice and run around doing remedies, all the while missing the real essence as stated above. This is evident from persistant messages seen even on this forum and same appearing on other forums as well. When some illnatured or illinformed astrologer makes even a small adverse observation, it becomes a histeria for the parents. This is practical & a natural human behavior. This also why the chart of child is not read till the child grows to an age and not out of ignorence but out of much higher personal & social needs. It(reading) is surely done if persistant adverse effects , illness etc are noticed. Hope you understood the reasons and the need to be coutious while making such statements, to get the real facts. It would be much better to work to get all those grace which shall come to aid at the appropriate moment far effective than any Mantras at this age of the child. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. , Mukesh Anand <anandjyotish@ ...> wrote: > > Direndrajee, >                   We respect other rituals but from my understanding if you know from begining that some one has balaarish or some remedial measures can be taken that should be analyzed moment child is born .Only thing is life of baby as per god is uncertain till 8th or 12th year of life nothing else but the nakashtra and position of planets in which child is born that is not going to change even if we analyzed it or not or analyze after one year . So this practice of not analyzing horosope is igonorance nothing else. > > --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra > Re: New Born Horo Analysis > > Monday, December 14, 2009, 7:08 PM > > >  > > > > Dear Santosh,Very good.It means analysis of Balarisht Dosh is left aside in Kerala for one year.But Mukesh Ji is resident of Delhi.Please let him ask. > With thanks & regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra >  > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Santhosh <santhosh@sudhamayi . com> > > Mon, December 14, 2009 4:07:48 PM > RE: New Born Horo Analysis > >  > Dear Mukesh, > > There is a practice in our place (Kerala) that horoscope is not analyzed > before the 1st year birthday of a new born. > > Regards > > Santhosh > > _____ > > > [Jyotish_ Remedies] On Behalf Of Mukesh Anand > Monday, December 14, 2009 2:17 PM > > New Born Horo Analysis > > Sir, > Pls check following horo of new born and site any negatives and > positives are there .Alos pls provide comprehensive feedack . > > DOB : 23-NOV-2009 > TIme : 15:40 PM > Place : Delhi > > Regards > mukesh > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Bhaiya Mukesh Anand Ji,Why are you hitching me unnecessarily for ignorance.It may be only personal view of Santosh Ji.There have been born so many great astrologer in Kerala.You should have asked to Santosh Ji or any other astrologer of Kerala in this regard where this practice is going on.Please once again read the lines written by Santosh Ji from Kerala which is thus- Dear Mukesh, There is a practice in our place (Kerala) that horoscope is not analyzed before the 1st year birthday of a new born. Regards Santhosh And again I replied to Santosh Ji-Dear Santosh,Very good.It means analysis of Balarisht Dosh is left aside in Kerala for one year.But Mukesh Ji is resident of Delhi.Please let him ask. With thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra  ________________________________ Mukesh Anand <anandjyotish Tue, December 15, 2009 9:06:05 AM Re: New Born Horo Analysis  Direndrajee,                   We respect other rituals but from my understanding if you know from begining that some one has balaarish or some remedial measures can be taken that should be analyzed moment child is born ..Only thing is life of baby as per god is uncertain till 8th or 12th year of life nothing else but the nakashtra and position of planets in which child is born that is not going to change even if we analyzed it or not or analyze after one year . So this practice of not analyzing horosope is igonorance nothing else. --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote: Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> Re: New Born Horo Analysis Monday, December 14, 2009, 7:08 PM  Dear Santosh,Very good.It means analysis of Balarisht Dosh is left aside in Kerala for one year.But Mukesh Ji is resident of Delhi.Please let him ask. With thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra  ____________ _________ _________ __ Santhosh <santhosh@sudhamayi . com> Mon, December 14, 2009 4:07:48 PM RE: New Born Horo Analysis  Dear Mukesh, There is a practice in our place (Kerala) that horoscope is not analyzed before the 1st year birthday of a new born. Regards Santhosh _____ [Jyotish_ Remedies] On Behalf Of Mukesh Anand Monday, December 14, 2009 2:17 PM New Born Horo Analysis Sir, Pls check following horo of new born and site any negatives and positives are there .Alos pls provide comprehensive feedack . DOB : 23-NOV-2009 TIme : 15:40 PM Place : Delhi Regards mukesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Dear mukeshji, Sureshji had replied on this issue with a detailed mail and the same was confirmed by krishnanji also. What i stated was not my personal personal view but a practice. If you start calling that ignorance then you will have to call every other system of astrology which is not the as the system followed by you as ignorant. You can yourself understand how foolish that would be. Here there are people who different systems and practices and we are together because we can share our systems, accept what we like and keep improving ourselves. As misraji rightly pointed out i was stating a practice and preventing you from finding your answer. You will notice that misraji has already analysed your chart. I hope that satisfies you. Regards and best wishes Santhosh Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra Tue, 15 Dec 2009 04:39:07 Re: New Born Horo Analysis Bhaiya Mukesh Anand Ji,Why are you hitching me unnecessarily for ignorance.It may be only personal view of Santosh Ji.There have been born so many great astrologer in Kerala.You should have asked to Santosh Ji or any other astrologer of Kerala in this regard where this practice is going on.Please once again read the lines written by Santosh Ji from Kerala which is thus- Dear Mukesh, There is a practice in our place (Kerala) that horoscope is not analyzed before the 1st year birthday of a new born. Regards Santhosh And again I replied to Santosh Ji-Dear Santosh,Very good.It means analysis of Balarisht Dosh is left aside in Kerala for one year.But Mukesh Ji is resident of Delhi.Please let him ask. With thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra  ________________________________ Mukesh Anand <anandjyotish Tue, December 15, 2009 9:06:05 AM Re: New Born Horo Analysis  Direndrajee,                   We respect other rituals but from my understanding if you know from begining that some one has balaarish or some remedial measures can be taken that should be analyzed moment child is born ..Only thing is life of baby as per god is uncertain till 8th or 12th year of life nothing else but the nakashtra and position of planets in which child is born that is not going to change even if we analyzed it or not or analyze after one year . So this practice of not analyzing horosope is igonorance nothing else. --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote: Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> Re: New Born Horo Analysis Monday, December 14, 2009, 7:08 PM  Dear Santosh,Very good.It means analysis of Balarisht Dosh is left aside in Kerala for one year.But Mukesh Ji is resident of Delhi.Please let him ask. With thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra  ________________________________ Santhosh <santhosh@sudhamayi . com> Mon, December 14, 2009 4:07:48 PM RE: New Born Horo Analysis  Dear Mukesh, There is a practice in our place (Kerala) that horoscope is not analyzed before the 1st year birthday of a new born. Regards Santhosh _____ [Jyotish_ Remedies] On Behalf Of Mukesh Anand Monday, December 14, 2009 2:17 PM New Born Horo Analysis Sir, Pls check following horo of new born and site any negatives and positives are there .Alos pls provide comprehensive feedack . DOB : 23-NOV-2009 TIme : 15:40 PM Place : Delhi Regards mukesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Sir,       Sorry if i may sound too much here and take back my words . but i think you have analyzed my daughter horoscope . For your information she is thalassemia major by birth and we have performed mahamrityujay and other hooms for the benfit for her .  This is the reason why i want to avoid any thing like this at the time child is born . you are right this is karmic 100% but all these things look good in books and when in reality we face these issues you can very well judge this .  regards mukesh --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag wrote: Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag Re: New Born Horo Analysis Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 6:16 AM  Dear Mukesh & Others, I was silent on this matter for several reasons. But your words & other observations needs some clarifications. //So this practice of not analyzing horosope is igonorance nothing else.// Be carefull when you use such words. After all you like any parent expect & hope that the child and the parents will have & should have a good future. Making Jatapatri (Jataka) for the first time is a ritual that is done during Namakarana. The purohit is offered special honors, dana etc and he makes the chart of the child and spells if any thing has to be done for the Janma doshas etc. This is a very special moment as only devine grace is invoked for the well being of the child & the family. Balarishta & sadhyomarana yogas are special and beyond the normal concepts of Jataka as it involvss Karmic element and only devine grace can save the concerned, if at all it is destined so. When we think of Devine grace, it means, the grace of not only god, but more importantly the grace of parents, elders, wellwishers, gurujans, sant lok etc. We can never be sure how & from where that grace could come by. But it depends mostly on the way of life of the parents, their thinking, way of life, behaviour with others etc. Even a small act of feeding a poor hungry person and his heartfelt thanks may be the last straw in saving the life of child. May be the lord must have ordained that the grace should come that way. That is why so much importance was given to way of life , actions, thoughts, behaviour etc in Indian Culture. As far for the child, the rest is left to lord. There is also a practice of offering the child(both male & female) to the care of any particular deity. The parents simply carries on the taking care of the child as if the child belongs to that deity - just like caretakers servant of the lord. The child is received back from the lord only at the time of Upanayana or marriage. So in this concept, the belief is that the child belongs to the lord till the age of upanayana or marriage, maturity. Further, there truely exists a physcological factor also to this. due to lack of the above, which has taken a nasty turn due to higher focus on materialistic needs and due to character & traits, and availability of astrologers, today it has become almost a phobia to check hooroscopes and try to seek advice and run around doing remedies, all the while missing the real essence as stated above. This is evident from persistant messages seen even on this forum and same appearing on other forums as well. When some illnatured or illinformed astrologer makes even a small adverse observation, it becomes a histeria for the parents. This is practical & a natural human behavior. This also why the chart of child is not read till the child grows to an age and not out of ignorence but out of much higher personal & social needs. It(reading) is surely done if persistant adverse effects , illness etc are noticed. Hope you understood the reasons and the need to be coutious while making such statements, to get the real facts. It would be much better to work to get all those grace which shall come to aid at the appropriate moment far effective than any Mantras at this age of the child. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. , Mukesh Anand <anandjyotish@ ...> wrote: > > Direndrajee, >                   We respect other rituals but from my understanding if you know from begining that some one has balaarish or some remedial measures can be taken that should be analyzed moment child is born .Only thing is life of baby as per god is uncertain till 8th or 12th year of life nothing else but the nakashtra and position of planets in which child is born that is not going to change even if we analyzed it or not or analyze after one year . So this practice of not analyzing horosope is igonorance nothing else. > > --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra > Re: New Born Horo Analysis > > Monday, December 14, 2009, 7:08 PM > > >  > > > > Dear Santosh,Very good.It means analysis of Balarisht Dosh is left aside in Kerala for one year.But Mukesh Ji is resident of Delhi.Please let him ask. > With thanks & regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra >  > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Santhosh <santhosh@sudhamayi . com> > > Mon, December 14, 2009 4:07:48 PM > RE: New Born Horo Analysis > >  > Dear Mukesh, > > There is a practice in our place (Kerala) that horoscope is not analyzed > before the 1st year birthday of a new born. > > Regards > > Santhosh > > _____ > > > [Jyotish_ Remedies] On Behalf Of Mukesh Anand > Monday, December 14, 2009 2:17 PM > > New Born Horo Analysis > > Sir, > Pls check following horo of new born and site any negatives and > positives are there .Alos pls provide comprehensive feedack . > > DOB : 23-NOV-2009 > TIme : 15:40 PM > Place : Delhi > > Regards > mukesh > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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