Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 This article doesn't meant to hurt anybody here.Just hope everbody will get clearer picture about astrology.Many view astrology negatively. If you ask me whether there is an effect from that red colour light on a person's life my answer is both " yes " and " no " . No, because it is just a light. Yes, because it indicates a bad period to cross. But if you attribute a godly character to the traffic light pole and starts worshipping it or think that there is a mystery in it. Then it is the lack of true knowledge and understanding. That is why, about 2500 years ago Lord Buddha said " Kim Karrisatthi Taraka ? " What stars can do ? It is not stars doing any thing to you. It is your own actions and the reactions of past actions (Karmas) are shaping your destiny. Your true savior is none but yourself as it is your duty to steer your life on the correct path. Possible or impossible ?(limits of human understanding ) Please note that, though the debate on the existence of all powerful almighty one creator being as such is out of the context of this subject of discussion, I do not exclude the possibility of that there could be (Now we call them as ET's and those days Deities or Angels) highly evolved powerful entities (and also some lowly evolved but powerful entities ) in other dimensions or worlds. A true scientist will never ridicule any possibility. However it may look impossible. Remember, that a few decades back prominent scientists of the time said, it is impossible for an aero plane to take off the ground as it is heavier than the air. Compared with the vastness and the complexity of the universe, what we have discovered and rationally understood is similar to a grain of sand. If you find something mysterious or something which is hard to explain, that does not mean it is not happening or it is impossible to happen. But that means our current understanding, senses, knowledge and the instruments are not yet developed enough to detect, measure and understand the phenomenon. As same as in Meteorology, in Astrology also, there is no definite saying. Because many things can not be told hundred present accurately. As I said in the previous example, even when the green light is shining you can not give a hundred present guarantee of safe passage as accidents may occur due to various other reasons. Life is a very complex thing many influencing factors are taking part during the course of a persons life It is dynamic, constantly changing just like clouds and weather patterns. Only a divine entity or God can predict for 100% accuracy about the course of a life of a person. No being born as a human (except a Buddha - The meaning of word Buddha itself is the highest of higher human intellect) can predict with 100% surety about course of a life of a person. Because a persons life is governed by Karma and so complex the karmas are it is difficult to fully comprehend by a person with ordinary intellect. With respect, I must mention that, even Maha Irshies were not able to do it fully. That is why the ancient texts written by different Irshies, though not always but sometimes suggest different methods or interpretations in regard to the same thing. For an example in regard to Planetary periods or Dashas, there are a number of methods suggested, Ashthoothari, Vimshotharri, Yogini etc.. Thanks to the works of Irshis and Sages and all the other scholars of the of the past, about 75 - 80 % degree of accuracy of predictions can be achieved by a good astrologer at present, if more than that, the rest is pure chance. (If anybody says he can do better than that and can always give 100% correct predictions, then he is not an astrologer but a new Buddha. Apart from the Gauthama the Buddha for this " Kalpha " or the epoch, an another additional Buddha had seems to be some how appeared on earth). No good astrologer who is honest and who knows the subject of astrology well and has a reputation to protect will never mislead people who do not know astrology and dare to say that he or she can give perfect 100% accurate predictions. It is as same as that, even for a vehicle which is just out of the production line, a good master engineer will never give a 100% guarantee, say to cross a desert alone and without taking any spare parts. Because he knows very well what many things can go wrong and how many brand new vehicles had been recalled due to various defects. But at the same time a foolish driver who may even do not know how to change a plug, due to his foolishness may take the risk of crossing the desert or even declare the exact time he will arrive at the destination. Since the Astrology is the only tool an ordinary human being has, to interpret the Quality and the quantity of Karmas an individual posses, Astrology should be treated with respect. Even though it's accuracy is not always 100%. But nobody should center his life on Astrology alone. Nor reject astrology totally. As Lord Buddha had always advised a person must take the middle path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Dear xtecc1109, A very good article and repeated several times over, and sounding like the predictions of weather departments - may or may not rain - so you may carry an umbrella or not choose to, it is upto you. Such messages are a common " thing " on the internet and do not require much intelligence to copy & paste and may be prune a little. We also do find a lot of people around us who hold such views. It is perhaps the english usage of the word " Astrology " that confuses you. If you understand the real essence of the original term " jyotisha " which is " Jyoti " + " ksha " meaning - a light for the eyes to see in the dark, a small beckon, that will help you in times of darkness,  it will not be that confusing. However, to understand the implication of the what essence means, one may have to go through such dark times once or twice in their life time, to know how dreadfull it is. It is only a starved person can tell what hunger is. But a person with a little knowledge of any language can write large scripts, without touching base, pushing others far deeper into comfusions. Before commenting to the above, sit back and think deeper, how far it is going to help others who are groping in the darkness and perplexed without knowing what to do.     Thank you for such En lightning message  Perhaps you can stop the confusion by throwing some of that light on your real name and what you are - to be honest A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ xtec1109 <xtec1109 Thu, December 17, 2009 12:00:25 PM Vedic Astrology....Yes or No  This article doesn't meant to hurt anybody here.Just hope everbody will get clearer picture about astrology.Many view astrology negatively. If you ask me whether there is an effect from that red colour light on a person's life my answer is both " yes " and " no " . No, because it is just a light. Yes, because it indicates a bad period to cross. But if you attribute a godly character to the traffic light pole and starts worshipping it or think that there is a mystery in it. Then it is the lack of true knowledge and understanding. That is why, about 2500 years ago Lord Buddha said " Kim Karrisatthi Taraka ? " What stars can do ? It is not stars doing any thing to you. It is your own actions and the reactions of past actions (Karmas) are shaping your destiny. Your true savior is none but yourself as it is your duty to steer your life on the correct path. Possible or impossible ?(limits of human understanding ) Please note that, though the debate on the existence of all powerful almighty one creator being as such is out of the context of this subject of discussion, I do not exclude the possibility of that there could be (Now we call them as ET's and those days Deities or Angels) highly evolved powerful entities (and also some lowly evolved but powerful entities ) in other dimensions or worlds. A true scientist will never ridicule any possibility. However it may look impossible. Remember, that a few decades back prominent scientists of the time said, it is impossible for an aero plane to take off the ground as it is heavier than the air. Compared with the vastness and the complexity of the universe, what we have discovered and rationally understood is similar to a grain of sand. If you find something mysterious or something which is hard to explain, that does not mean it is not happening or it is impossible to happen. But that means our current understanding, senses, knowledge and the instruments are not yet developed enough to detect, measure and understand the phenomenon. As same as in Meteorology, in Astrology also, there is no definite saying. Because many things can not be told hundred present accurately. As I said in the previous example, even when the green light is shining you can not give a hundred present guarantee of safe passage as accidents may occur due to various other reasons. Life is a very complex thing many influencing factors are taking part during the course of a persons life It is dynamic, constantly changing just like clouds and weather patterns. Only a divine entity or God can predict for 100% accuracy about the course of a life of a person. No being born as a human (except a Buddha - The meaning of word Buddha itself is the highest of higher human intellect) can predict with 100% surety about course of a life of a person. Because a persons life is governed by Karma and so complex the karmas are it is difficult to fully comprehend by a person with ordinary intellect. With respect, I must mention that, even Maha Irshies were not able to do it fully. That is why the ancient texts written by different Irshies, though not always but sometimes suggest different methods or interpretations in regard to the same thing. For an example in regard to Planetary periods or Dashas, there are a number of methods suggested, Ashthoothari, Vimshotharri, Yogini etc.. Thanks to the works of Irshis and Sages and all the other scholars of the of the past, about 75 - 80 % degree of accuracy of predictions can be achieved by a good astrologer at present, if more than that, the rest is pure chance. (If anybody says he can do better than that and can always give 100% correct predictions, then he is not an astrologer but a new Buddha. Apart from the Gauthama the Buddha for this " Kalpha " or the epoch, an another additional Buddha had seems to be some how appeared on earth). No good astrologer who is honest and who knows the subject of astrology well and has a reputation to protect will never mislead people who do not know astrology and dare to say that he or she can give perfect 100% accurate predictions. It is as same as that, even for a vehicle which is just out of the production line, a good master engineer will never give a 100% guarantee, say to cross a desert alone and without taking any spare parts. Because he knows very well what many things can go wrong and how many brand new vehicles had been recalled due to various defects. But at the same time a foolish driver who may even do not know how to change a plug, due to his foolishness may take the risk of crossing the desert or even declare the exact time he will arrive at the destination. Since the Astrology is the only tool an ordinary human being has, to interpret the Quality and the quantity of Karmas an individual posses, Astrology should be treated with respect. Even though it's accuracy is not always 100%. But nobody should center his life on Astrology alone. Nor reject astrology totally. As Lord Buddha had always advised a person must take the middle path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Dear Friend, SUch message are not very uncommon as mentioned by Shri Sursh Ji.What however is to cite at the end of the message of Lord  Buddhaa's preaching and it's relevance. Even If I concur with whole or part of your endeavour how in the topic you thought fit to suggest: "  As Lord Buddha had always advised a person must take the middle path. " There are many seers and sages b4 and after Buddha suggested to avoid extreemities(too much faith and no faith,reliable,not relaible etc) Many would like to say YES for vedic astrology in what ever it can help and guide for many reasons. peopl say no dut to misguidance and ignorance. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Thu, 12/17/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote: Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag Re: Vedic Astrology....Yes or No Thursday, December 17, 2009, 2:17 AM  Dear xtecc1109, A very good article and repeated several times over, and sounding like the predictions of weather departments - may or may not rain - so you may carry an umbrella or not choose to, it is upto you. Such messages are a common " thing " on the internet and do not require much intelligence to copy & paste and may be prune a little. We also do find a lot of people around us who hold such views. It is perhaps the english usage of the word " Astrology " that confuses you. If you understand the real essence of the original term " jyotisha " which is " Jyoti " + " ksha " meaning - a light for the eyes to see in the dark, a small beckon, that will help you in times of darkness,  it will not be that confusing. However, to understand the implication of the what essence means, one may have to go through such dark times once or twice in their life time, to know how dreadfull it is. It is only a starved person can tell what hunger is. But a person with a little knowledge of any language can write large scripts, without touching base, pushing others far deeper into comfusions. Before commenting to the above, sit back and think deeper, how far it is going to help others who are groping in the darkness and perplexed without knowing what to do.     Thank you for such En lightning message  Perhaps you can stop the confusion by throwing some of that light on your real name and what you are - to be honest A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ xtec1109 <xtec1109 > Thu, December 17, 2009 12:00:25 PM Vedic Astrology... .Yes or No  This article doesn't meant to hurt anybody here.Just hope everbody will get clearer picture about astrology.Many view astrology negatively. If you ask me whether there is an effect from that red colour light on a person's life my answer is both " yes " and " no " . No, because it is just a light. Yes, because it indicates a bad period to cross. But if you attribute a godly character to the traffic light pole and starts worshipping it or think that there is a mystery in it. Then it is the lack of true knowledge and understanding. That is why, about 2500 years ago Lord Buddha said " Kim Karrisatthi Taraka ? " What stars can do ? It is not stars doing any thing to you. It is your own actions and the reactions of past actions (Karmas) are shaping your destiny. Your true savior is none but yourself as it is your duty to steer your life on the correct path. Possible or impossible ?(limits of human understanding ) Please note that, though the debate on the existence of all powerful almighty one creator being as such is out of the context of this subject of discussion, I do not exclude the possibility of that there could be (Now we call them as ET's and those days Deities or Angels) highly evolved powerful entities (and also some lowly evolved but powerful entities ) in other dimensions or worlds. A true scientist will never ridicule any possibility. However it may look impossible. Remember, that a few decades back prominent scientists of the time said, it is impossible for an aero plane to take off the ground as it is heavier than the air. Compared with the vastness and the complexity of the universe, what we have discovered and rationally understood is similar to a grain of sand. If you find something mysterious or something which is hard to explain, that does not mean it is not happening or it is impossible to happen. But that means our current understanding, senses, knowledge and the instruments are not yet developed enough to detect, measure and understand the phenomenon. As same as in Meteorology, in Astrology also, there is no definite saying. Because many things can not be told hundred present accurately. As I said in the previous example, even when the green light is shining you can not give a hundred present guarantee of safe passage as accidents may occur due to various other reasons. Life is a very complex thing many influencing factors are taking part during the course of a persons life It is dynamic, constantly changing just like clouds and weather patterns. Only a divine entity or God can predict for 100% accuracy about the course of a life of a person. No being born as a human (except a Buddha - The meaning of word Buddha itself is the highest of higher human intellect) can predict with 100% surety about course of a life of a person. Because a persons life is governed by Karma and so complex the karmas are it is difficult to fully comprehend by a person with ordinary intellect. With respect, I must mention that, even Maha Irshies were not able to do it fully. That is why the ancient texts written by different Irshies, though not always but sometimes suggest different methods or interpretations in regard to the same thing. For an example in regard to Planetary periods or Dashas, there are a number of methods suggested, Ashthoothari, Vimshotharri, Yogini etc.. Thanks to the works of Irshis and Sages and all the other scholars of the of the past, about 75 - 80 % degree of accuracy of predictions can be achieved by a good astrologer at present, if more than that, the rest is pure chance. (If anybody says he can do better than that and can always give 100% correct predictions, then he is not an astrologer but a new Buddha. Apart from the Gauthama the Buddha for this " Kalpha " or the epoch, an another additional Buddha had seems to be some how appeared on earth). No good astrologer who is honest and who knows the subject of astrology well and has a reputation to protect will never mislead people who do not know astrology and dare to say that he or she can give perfect 100% accurate predictions. It is as same as that, even for a vehicle which is just out of the production line, a good master engineer will never give a 100% guarantee, say to cross a desert alone and without taking any spare parts. Because he knows very well what many things can go wrong and how many brand new vehicles had been recalled due to various defects. But at the same time a foolish driver who may even do not know how to change a plug, due to his foolishness may take the risk of crossing the desert or even declare the exact time he will arrive at the destination. Since the Astrology is the only tool an ordinary human being has, to interpret the Quality and the quantity of Karmas an individual posses, Astrology should be treated with respect. Even though it's accuracy is not always 100%. But nobody should center his life on Astrology alone. Nor reject astrology totally. As Lord Buddha had always advised a person must take the middle path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 The Middle Path of Buddha is misinterpreted by those who hate the Vedic path consisting of Tapasya, Brahmacharya, Indriyanigraha, etc, which was followed by The Buddha himself. The Buddha was himself a great Tapasvi. But The Buddha had said that his true preaching will be lost after five centuries. During post Christian centries, most of the Bhikshus in caves built with royal money entertained themselves with paintings and sculptures of semi-naked women. This was not the original Middle Path. Gita also extols the virtues of Tapa but forbids undue mortification of body. This is real Middle Path. Middle path is not half sin and half virtue, or half glass of wine in half glass of milk, or making paintings of women half naked and half clad. No mortal can consistently make 100% correct predictions, even if all mathematical tables and charts are correctl;y drawn either manually or by means of computer. It is because of the amount and complexity of secondary data. But 100% correct method is already present in Jyotisha. This method, however, cannot become universally popular because a large majority of people in Kaliyuga do not deserve it. My personal experience is that I fail to make correct predictions for those who are great sinners, God helps me in making good predictions only when the Jaataka is pious enough. -VJ ================= ==== , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Friend, > SUch message are not very uncommon as mentioned by Shri Sursh Ji.What however is to cite at the end of the message of Lord  Buddhaa's preaching and it's relevance. > Even If I concur with whole or part of your endeavour how in the topic you thought fit to suggest: "  As Lord Buddha had always advised a person must take the middle path. " > There are many seers and sages b4 and after Buddha suggested to avoid extreemities(too much faith and no faith,reliable,not relaible etc) > Many would like to say YES for vedic astrology in what ever it can help and guide for many reasons. > peopl say no dut to misguidance and ignorance. > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Thu, 12/17/09, Suresh Babu.A.G sureshbabuag wrote: > > > Suresh Babu.A.G sureshbabuag > Re: Vedic Astrology....Yes or No > > Thursday, December 17, 2009, 2:17 AM > > >  > > > > Dear xtecc1109, > > A very good article and repeated several times over, and sounding like the predictions of weather departments - may or may not rain - so you may carry an umbrella or not choose to, it is upto you. > > Such messages are a common " thing " on the internet and do not require much intelligence to copy & paste and may be prune a little. We also do find a lot of people around us who hold such views. > > It is perhaps the english usage of the word " Astrology " that confuses you. If you understand the real essence of the original term " jyotisha " which is " Jyoti " + " ksha " meaning - a light for the eyes to see in the dark, a small beckon, that will help you in times of darkness,  it will not be that confusing. However, to understand the implication of the what essence means, one may have to go through such dark times once or twice in their life time, to know how dreadfull it is. It is only a starved person can tell what hunger is. But a person with a little knowledge of any language can write large scripts, without touching base, pushing others far deeper into comfusions. > > Before commenting to the above, sit back and think deeper, how far it is going to help others who are groping in the darkness and perplexed without knowing what to do.     > > Thank you for such En lightning message  > Perhaps you can stop the confusion by throwing some of that light on your real name and what you are - to be honest > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > xtec1109 xtec1109 > > > Thu, December 17, 2009 12:00:25 PM > Vedic Astrology... .Yes or No > >  > > This article doesn't meant to hurt anybody here.Just hope everbody will get clearer picture about astrology.Many view astrology negatively. > > If you ask me whether there is an effect from that red colour light on a person's life my answer is both " yes " and " no " . No, because it is just a light. Yes, because it indicates a bad period to cross. But if you attribute a godly character to the traffic light pole and starts worshipping it or think that there is a mystery in it. Then it is the lack of true knowledge and understanding. That is why, about 2500 years ago Lord Buddha said " Kim Karrisatthi Taraka ? " What stars can do ? It is not stars doing any thing to you. It is your own actions and the reactions of past actions (Karmas) are shaping your destiny. Your true savior is none but yourself as it is your duty to steer your life on the correct path. > > Possible or impossible ?(limits of human understanding ) > > Please note that, though the debate on the existence of all powerful almighty one creator being as such is out of the context of this subject of discussion, I do not exclude the possibility of that there could be (Now we call them as ET's and those days Deities or Angels) highly evolved powerful entities (and also some lowly evolved but powerful entities ) in other dimensions or worlds. A true scientist will never ridicule any possibility. However it may look impossible. Remember, that a few decades back prominent scientists of the time said, it is impossible for an aero plane to take off the ground as it is heavier than the air. Compared with the vastness and the complexity of the universe, what we have discovered and rationally understood is similar to a grain of sand. If you find something mysterious or something which is hard to explain, that does not mean it is not happening or it is impossible to happen. But that means our current understanding, > senses, knowledge and the instruments are not yet developed enough to detect, measure and understand the phenomenon. > > As same as in Meteorology, in Astrology also, there is no definite saying. Because many things can not be told hundred present accurately. As I said in the previous example, even when the green light is shining you can not give a hundred present guarantee of safe passage as accidents may occur due to various other reasons. Life is a very complex thing many influencing factors are taking part during the course of a persons life It is dynamic, constantly changing just like clouds and weather patterns. > > Only a divine entity or God can predict for 100% accuracy about the course of a life of a person. No being born as a human (except a Buddha - The meaning of word Buddha itself is the highest of higher human intellect) can predict with 100% surety about course of a life of a person. > > Because a persons life is governed by Karma and so complex the karmas are it is difficult to fully comprehend by a person with ordinary intellect. > > With respect, I must mention that, even Maha Irshies were not able to do it fully. That is why the ancient texts written by different Irshies, though not always but sometimes suggest different methods or interpretations in regard to the same thing. For an example in regard to Planetary periods or Dashas, there are a number of methods suggested, Ashthoothari, Vimshotharri, Yogini etc.. > > Thanks to the works of Irshis and Sages and all the other scholars of the of the past, about 75 - 80 % degree of accuracy of predictions can be achieved by a good astrologer at present, if more than that, the rest is pure chance. (If anybody says he can do better than that and can always give 100% correct predictions, then he is not an astrologer but a new Buddha. Apart from the Gauthama the Buddha for this " Kalpha " or the epoch, an another additional Buddha had seems to be some how appeared on earth). > > No good astrologer who is honest and who knows the subject of astrology well and has a reputation to protect will never mislead people who do not know astrology and dare to say that he or she can give perfect 100% accurate predictions. > > It is as same as that, even for a vehicle which is just out of the production line, a good master engineer will never give a 100% guarantee, say to cross a desert alone and without taking any spare parts. Because he knows very well what many things can go wrong and how many brand new vehicles had been recalled due to various defects. But at the same time a foolish driver who may even do not know how to change a plug, due to his foolishness may take the risk of crossing the desert or even declare the exact time he will arrive at the destination. > > Since the Astrology is the only tool an ordinary human being has, to interpret the Quality and the quantity of Karmas an individual posses, Astrology should be treated with respect. Even though it's accuracy is not always 100%. But nobody should center his life on Astrology alone. Nor reject astrology totally. As Lord Buddha had always advised a person must take the middle path. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Dear Shri Jha Ji, In case th thread is meant to obtain a opinion poll,our assertions/ views become out of place in that context.In any case it is not as it is an directed to believers and non believers to know some thing more about vedic astrology In the context of getting involved in the JR and else where we venture 2 deal with the intention to be as honest and as sincere as human being can. It is ofcourse a matter of debate seprately to be dealt about kaliyuga and then make any judgemenet as you mentioned //largemajority of people in Kaliyuga do not deserve it// Yet we need to think ourselves whether we are in that position to make or not? 2.It is heartening to hear about the capbilities of this great reverred science in this modern age where people are more for materail approaches have also ways to believe firmly that there are ways and means one can attempt to make:.  //100% correct method is already present in Jyotisha// and understand first.That way nothing is is impossible if only we strive to know and work in the direction. My only reservation is about " also " added in your conviction//Gita also extols the virtues of Tapa.............. This is real Middle Path. There is always a middle path that gives time and space to analyses and assess strength of weakness of any thing. Lord Buddha considered as avatar and professing about 'middle patha " is no different than already cited in the Gita,the sacred book for one and all. Finally the concern about the present understanding in the " college drop outs " and others who are not willing to take responsibility for their body and mind,the computer has become easy to shoot any thing to the Internet media and also question their veracity after receiving the suggestions and advices. I am really worried and would not also like to be considered that these opinions/advices culled out from Vedic Jyotish considered as " spam " . Your message therefore encourages those who are interested to learn vedic jyotish and work sincerely to guide men and matters to the extent possible.  Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Thu, 12/17/09, VJha <vinayjhaa16 wrote: VJha <vinayjhaa16 Re: Vedic Astrology....Yes or No Thursday, December 17, 2009, 6:36 AM  The Middle Path of Buddha is misinterpreted by those who hate the Vedic path consisting of Tapasya, Brahmacharya, Indriyanigraha, etc, which was followed by The Buddha himself. The Buddha was himself a great Tapasvi. But The Buddha had said that his true preaching will be lost after five centuries. During post Christian centries, most of the Bhikshus in caves built with royal money entertained themselves with paintings and sculptures of semi-naked women. This was not the original Middle Path. Gita also extols the virtues of Tapa but forbids undue mortification of body. This is real Middle Path. Middle path is not half sin and half virtue, or half glass of wine in half glass of milk, or making paintings of women half naked and half clad. No mortal can consistently make 100% correct predictions, even if all mathematical tables and charts are correctl;y drawn either manually or by means of computer. It is because of the amount and complexity of secondary data. But 100% correct method is already present in Jyotisha. This method, however, cannot become universally popular because a large majority of people in Kaliyuga do not deserve it. My personal experience is that I fail to make correct predictions for those who are great sinners, God helps me in making good predictions only when the Jaataka is pious enough. -VJ ============ ===== ==== , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Friend, > SUch message are not very uncommon as mentioned by Shri Sursh Ji.What however is to cite at the end of the message of Lord  Buddhaa's preaching and it's relevance. > Even If I concur with whole or part of your endeavour how in the topic you thought fit to suggest: "  As Lord Buddha had always advised a person must take the middle path. " > There are many seers and sages b4 and after Buddha suggested to avoid extreemities( too much faith and no faith,reliable, not relaible etc) > Many would like to say YES for vedic astrology in what ever it can help and guide for many reasons. > peopl say no dut to misguidance and ignorance. > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Thu, 12/17/09, Suresh Babu.A.G sureshbabuag@ ... wrote: > > > Suresh Babu.A.G sureshbabuag@ ... > Re: Vedic Astrology... .Yes or No > > Thursday, December 17, 2009, 2:17 AM > > >  > > > > Dear xtecc1109, > > A very good article and repeated several times over, and sounding like the predictions of weather departments - may or may not rain - so you may carry an umbrella or not choose to, it is upto you. > > Such messages are a common " thing " on the internet and do not require much intelligence to copy & paste and may be prune a little. We also do find a lot of people around us who hold such views. > > It is perhaps the english usage of the word " Astrology " that confuses you. If you understand the real essence of the original term " jyotisha " which is " Jyoti " + " ksha " meaning - a light for the eyes to see in the dark, a small beckon, that will help you in times of darkness,  it will not be that confusing. However, to understand the implication of the what essence means, one may have to go through such dark times once or twice in their life time, to know how dreadfull it is. It is only a starved person can tell what hunger is. But a person with a little knowledge of any language can write large scripts, without touching base, pushing others far deeper into comfusions. > > Before commenting to the above, sit back and think deeper, how far it is going to help others who are groping in the darkness and perplexed without knowing what to do.     > > Thank you for such En lightning message  > Perhaps you can stop the confusion by throwing some of that light on your real name and what you are - to be honest > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > xtec1109 xtec1109 > > > Thu, December 17, 2009 12:00:25 PM > Vedic Astrology... .Yes or No > >  > > This article doesn't meant to hurt anybody here.Just hope everbody will get clearer picture about astrology.Many view astrology negatively. > > If you ask me whether there is an effect from that red colour light on a person's life my answer is both " yes " and " no " . No, because it is just a light. Yes, because it indicates a bad period to cross. But if you attribute a godly character to the traffic light pole and starts worshipping it or think that there is a mystery in it. Then it is the lack of true knowledge and understanding. That is why, about 2500 years ago Lord Buddha said " Kim Karrisatthi Taraka ? " What stars can do ? It is not stars doing any thing to you. It is your own actions and the reactions of past actions (Karmas) are shaping your destiny. Your true savior is none but yourself as it is your duty to steer your life on the correct path. > > Possible or impossible ?(limits of human understanding ) > > Please note that, though the debate on the existence of all powerful almighty one creator being as such is out of the context of this subject of discussion, I do not exclude the possibility of that there could be (Now we call them as ET's and those days Deities or Angels) highly evolved powerful entities (and also some lowly evolved but powerful entities ) in other dimensions or worlds. A true scientist will never ridicule any possibility. However it may look impossible. Remember, that a few decades back prominent scientists of the time said, it is impossible for an aero plane to take off the ground as it is heavier than the air. Compared with the vastness and the complexity of the universe, what we have discovered and rationally understood is similar to a grain of sand. If you find something mysterious or something which is hard to explain, that does not mean it is not happening or it is impossible to happen. But that means our current understanding, > senses, knowledge and the instruments are not yet developed enough to detect, measure and understand the phenomenon. > > As same as in Meteorology, in Astrology also, there is no definite saying. Because many things can not be told hundred present accurately. As I said in the previous example, even when the green light is shining you can not give a hundred present guarantee of safe passage as accidents may occur due to various other reasons. Life is a very complex thing many influencing factors are taking part during the course of a persons life It is dynamic, constantly changing just like clouds and weather patterns. > > Only a divine entity or God can predict for 100% accuracy about the course of a life of a person. No being born as a human (except a Buddha - The meaning of word Buddha itself is the highest of higher human intellect) can predict with 100% surety about course of a life of a person. > > Because a persons life is governed by Karma and so complex the karmas are it is difficult to fully comprehend by a person with ordinary intellect. > > With respect, I must mention that, even Maha Irshies were not able to do it fully. That is why the ancient texts written by different Irshies, though not always but sometimes suggest different methods or interpretations in regard to the same thing. For an example in regard to Planetary periods or Dashas, there are a number of methods suggested, Ashthoothari, Vimshotharri, Yogini etc.. > > Thanks to the works of Irshis and Sages and all the other scholars of the of the past, about 75 - 80 % degree of accuracy of predictions can be achieved by a good astrologer at present, if more than that, the rest is pure chance. (If anybody says he can do better than that and can always give 100% correct predictions, then he is not an astrologer but a new Buddha. Apart from the Gauthama the Buddha for this " Kalpha " or the epoch, an another additional Buddha had seems to be some how appeared on earth). > > No good astrologer who is honest and who knows the subject of astrology well and has a reputation to protect will never mislead people who do not know astrology and dare to say that he or she can give perfect 100% accurate predictions. > > It is as same as that, even for a vehicle which is just out of the production line, a good master engineer will never give a 100% guarantee, say to cross a desert alone and without taking any spare parts. Because he knows very well what many things can go wrong and how many brand new vehicles had been recalled due to various defects. But at the same time a foolish driver who may even do not know how to change a plug, due to his foolishness may take the risk of crossing the desert or even declare the exact time he will arrive at the destination. > > Since the Astrology is the only tool an ordinary human being has, to interpret the Quality and the quantity of Karmas an individual posses, Astrology should be treated with respect. Even though it's accuracy is not always 100%. But nobody should center his life on Astrology alone. Nor reject astrology totally. As Lord Buddha had always advised a person must take the middle path. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Dear Vinay_jee, You are a very intelligent, well-read and from what I have heard from you a very accomplished (intellectually, and spiritually) being, so now I am a bit confused or at least taken aback when you now write: " No mortal can consistently make 100% correct predictions, even if all mathematical tables and charts are correctl;y drawn either manually or by means of computer. It is because of the amount and complexity of secondary data. But 100% correct method is already present in Jyotisha. This method, however, cannot become universally popular because a large majority of people in Kaliyuga do not deserve it. My personal experience is that I fail to make correct predictions for those who are great sinners, God helps me in making good predictions only when the Jaataka is pious enough. " Then why worry about: 1. Insisting that there is a 100% perfect system which only rests on belief and cannot ever be demonstrated because no Human being can be 100% accurate! Is that what they mean when they call something a paradox or 'catch-22'? AND... 2. If people in Kaliyuga, mostly sinners by your understanding do not DESERVE to have their horoscopes read and deciphered and so on, why did Parashara specifically create this elaborate system called Ashtakavarga and specifically dedicate it and gift it to Kaliyugis? OR perhaps it was an intrusion into the Holy Original Version of BPHS by some " Latter-Day-Saint? " , borrowing the term from a religious sect? What am I missing, in the logic that is being discussed here...? Rohiniranjan , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > The Middle Path of Buddha is misinterpreted by those who hate the Vedic > path consisting of Tapasya, Brahmacharya, Indriyanigraha, etc, which > was followed by The Buddha himself. The Buddha was himself a great > Tapasvi. But The Buddha had said that his true preaching will be lost > after five centuries. During post Christian centries, most of the > Bhikshus in caves built with royal money entertained themselves with > paintings and sculptures of semi-naked women. This was not the original > Middle Path. > > Gita also extols the virtues of Tapa but forbids undue mortification of > body. This is real Middle Path. Middle path is not half sin and half > virtue, or half glass of wine in half glass of milk, or making paintings > of women half naked and half clad. > > No mortal can consistently make 100% correct predictions, even if all > mathematical tables and charts are correctl;y drawn either manually or > by means of computer. It is because of the amount and complexity of > secondary data. But 100% correct method is already present in Jyotisha. > This method, however, cannot become universally popular because a large > majority of people in Kaliyuga do not deserve it. My personal experience > is that I fail to make correct predictions for those who are great > sinners, God helps me in making good predictions only when the Jaataka > is pious enough. > > -VJ > ================= ==== > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Friend, > > SUch message are not very uncommon as mentioned by Shri Sursh > Ji.What however is to cite at the end of the message of Lord >  Buddhaa's preaching and it's relevance. > > Even If I concur with whole or part of your endeavour how in the topic > you thought fit to suggest: "  As Lord Buddha had always advised a > person must take the middle path. " > > There are many seers and sages b4 and after Buddha suggested to avoid > extreemities(too much faith and no faith,reliable,not relaible etc) > > Many would like to say YES for vedic astrology in what ever it can > help and guide for many reasons. > > peopl say no dut to misguidance and ignorance. > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control > Them " > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > >  > > > > --- On Thu, 12/17/09, Suresh Babu.A.G sureshbabuag@ wrote: > > > > > > Suresh Babu.A.G sureshbabuag@ > > Re: Vedic Astrology....Yes or No > > > > Thursday, December 17, 2009, 2:17 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear xtecc1109, > > > > A very good article and repeated several times over, and sounding like > the predictions of weather departments - may or may not rain - so you > may carry an umbrella or not choose to, it is upto you. > > > > Such messages are a common " thing " on the internet and do not require > much intelligence to copy & paste and may be prune a little. We also do > find a lot of people around us who hold such views. > > > > It is perhaps the english usage of the word " Astrology " that > confuses you. If you understand the real essence of the original term > " jyotisha " which is " Jyoti " + " ksha " meaning - a light for the eyes to > see in the dark, a small beckon, that will help you in times of > darkness,  it will not be that confusing. However, to understand > the implication of the what essence means, one may have to go through > such dark times once or twice in their life time, to know how dreadfull > it is. It is only a starved person can tell what hunger is. But > a person with a little knowledge of any language can write large > scripts, without touching base, pushing others far deeper into > comfusions. > > > > Before commenting to the above, sit back and think deeper, how far > it is going to help others who are groping in the darkness and > perplexed without knowing what to do.     > > > > Thank you for such En lightning message  > > Perhaps you can stop the confusion by throwing some of that light on > your real name and what you are - to be honest > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > xtec1109 xtec1109 > > > > > Thu, December 17, 2009 12:00:25 PM > > Vedic Astrology... .Yes or No > > > >  > > > > This article doesn't meant to hurt anybody here.Just hope everbody > will get clearer picture about astrology.Many view astrology negatively. > > > > If you ask me whether there is an effect from that red colour light on > a person's life my answer is both " yes " and " no " . No, because it is just > a light. Yes, because it indicates a bad period to cross. But if you > attribute a godly character to the traffic light pole and starts > worshipping it or think that there is a mystery in it. Then it is the > lack of true knowledge and understanding. That is why, about 2500 years > ago Lord Buddha said " Kim Karrisatthi Taraka ? " What stars can do ? It > is not stars doing any thing to you. It is your own actions and the > reactions of past actions (Karmas) are shaping your destiny. Your true > savior is none but yourself as it is your duty to steer your life on the > correct path. > > > > Possible or impossible ?(limits of human understanding ) > > > > Please note that, though the debate on the existence of all powerful > almighty one creator being as such is out of the context of this subject > of discussion, I do not exclude the possibility of that there could be > (Now we call them as ET's and those days Deities or Angels) highly > evolved powerful entities (and also some lowly evolved but powerful > entities ) in other dimensions or worlds. A true scientist will never > ridicule any possibility. However it may look impossible. Remember, that > a few decades back prominent scientists of the time said, it is > impossible for an aero plane to take off the ground as it is heavier > than the air. Compared with the vastness and the complexity of the > universe, what we have discovered and rationally understood is similar > to a grain of sand. If you find something mysterious or something which > is hard to explain, that does not mean it is not happening or it is > impossible to happen. But that means our current understanding, > > senses, knowledge and the instruments are not yet developed enough to > detect, measure and understand the phenomenon. > > > > As same as in Meteorology, in Astrology also, there is no definite > saying. Because many things can not be told hundred present accurately. > As I said in the previous example, even when the green light is shining > you can not give a hundred present guarantee of safe passage as > accidents may occur due to various other reasons. Life is a very complex > thing many influencing factors are taking part during the course of a > persons life It is dynamic, constantly changing just like clouds and > weather patterns. > > > > Only a divine entity or God can predict for 100% accuracy about the > course of a life of a person. No being born as a human (except a Buddha > - The meaning of word Buddha itself is the highest of higher human > intellect) can predict with 100% surety about course of a life of a > person. > > > > Because a persons life is governed by Karma and so complex the karmas > are it is difficult to fully comprehend by a person with ordinary > intellect. > > > > With respect, I must mention that, even Maha Irshies were not able to > do it fully. That is why the ancient texts written by different Irshies, > though not always but sometimes suggest different methods or > interpretations in regard to the same thing. For an example in regard to > Planetary periods or Dashas, there are a number of methods suggested, > Ashthoothari, Vimshotharri, Yogini etc.. > > > > Thanks to the works of Irshis and Sages and all the other scholars of > the of the past, about 75 - 80 % degree of accuracy of predictions can > be achieved by a good astrologer at present, if more than that, the rest > is pure chance. (If anybody says he can do better than that and can > always give 100% correct predictions, then he is not an astrologer but a > new Buddha. Apart from the Gauthama the Buddha for this " Kalpha " or the > epoch, an another additional Buddha had seems to be some how appeared on > earth). > > > > No good astrologer who is honest and who knows the subject of > astrology well and has a reputation to protect will never mislead people > who do not know astrology and dare to say that he or she can give > perfect 100% accurate predictions. > > > > It is as same as that, even for a vehicle which is just out of the > production line, a good master engineer will never give a 100% > guarantee, say to cross a desert alone and without taking any spare > parts. Because he knows very well what many things can go wrong and how > many brand new vehicles had been recalled due to various defects. But at > the same time a foolish driver who may even do not know how to change a > plug, due to his foolishness may take the risk of crossing the desert or > even declare the exact time he will arrive at the destination. > > > > Since the Astrology is the only tool an ordinary human being has, to > interpret the Quality and the quantity of Karmas an individual posses, > Astrology should be treated with respect. Even though it's accuracy is > not always 100%. But nobody should center his life on Astrology alone. > Nor reject astrology totally. As Lord Buddha had always advised a person > must take the middle path. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 ecstacy (xtecc), by the way is a dangerous drug that often gives hallucinations of exultations as psychologists call those -- feelings of grandeur and being God's instrument and so on and history is full of such mislaid-messihas! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecstacy As they say, " you are/become what you eat! " RR_ , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Friend, > SUch message are not very uncommon as mentioned by Shri Sursh Ji.What however is to cite at the end of the message of Lord  Buddhaa's preaching and it's relevance. > Even If I concur with whole or part of your endeavour how in the topic you thought fit to suggest: "  As Lord Buddha had always advised a person must take the middle path. " > There are many seers and sages b4 and after Buddha suggested to avoid extreemities(too much faith and no faith,reliable,not relaible etc) > Many would like to say YES for vedic astrology in what ever it can help and guide for many reasons. > peopl say no dut to misguidance and ignorance. > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Thu, 12/17/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote: > > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag > Re: Vedic Astrology....Yes or No > > Thursday, December 17, 2009, 2:17 AM > > >  > > > > Dear xtecc1109, > > A very good article and repeated several times over, and sounding like the predictions of weather departments - may or may not rain - so you may carry an umbrella or not choose to, it is upto you. > > Such messages are a common " thing " on the internet and do not require much intelligence to copy & paste and may be prune a little. We also do find a lot of people around us who hold such views. > > It is perhaps the english usage of the word " Astrology " that confuses you. If you understand the real essence of the original term " jyotisha " which is " Jyoti " + " ksha " meaning - a light for the eyes to see in the dark, a small beckon, that will help you in times of darkness,  it will not be that confusing. However, to understand the implication of the what essence means, one may have to go through such dark times once or twice in their life time, to know how dreadfull it is. It is only a starved person can tell what hunger is. But a person with a little knowledge of any language can write large scripts, without touching base, pushing others far deeper into comfusions. > > Before commenting to the above, sit back and think deeper, how far it is going to help others who are groping in the darkness and perplexed without knowing what to do.     > > Thank you for such En lightning message  > Perhaps you can stop the confusion by throwing some of that light on your real name and what you are - to be honest > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > xtec1109 <xtec1109 > > > Thu, December 17, 2009 12:00:25 PM > Vedic Astrology... .Yes or No > >  > > This article doesn't meant to hurt anybody here.Just hope everbody will get clearer picture about astrology.Many view astrology negatively. > > If you ask me whether there is an effect from that red colour light on a person's life my answer is both " yes " and " no " . No, because it is just a light. Yes, because it indicates a bad period to cross. But if you attribute a godly character to the traffic light pole and starts worshipping it or think that there is a mystery in it. Then it is the lack of true knowledge and understanding. That is why, about 2500 years ago Lord Buddha said " Kim Karrisatthi Taraka ? " What stars can do ? It is not stars doing any thing to you. It is your own actions and the reactions of past actions (Karmas) are shaping your destiny. Your true savior is none but yourself as it is your duty to steer your life on the correct path. > > Possible or impossible ?(limits of human understanding ) > > Please note that, though the debate on the existence of all powerful almighty one creator being as such is out of the context of this subject of discussion, I do not exclude the possibility of that there could be (Now we call them as ET's and those days Deities or Angels) highly evolved powerful entities (and also some lowly evolved but powerful entities ) in other dimensions or worlds. A true scientist will never ridicule any possibility. However it may look impossible. Remember, that a few decades back prominent scientists of the time said, it is impossible for an aero plane to take off the ground as it is heavier than the air. Compared with the vastness and the complexity of the universe, what we have discovered and rationally understood is similar to a grain of sand. If you find something mysterious or something which is hard to explain, that does not mean it is not happening or it is impossible to happen. But that means our current understanding, > senses, knowledge and the instruments are not yet developed enough to detect, measure and understand the phenomenon. > > As same as in Meteorology, in Astrology also, there is no definite saying. Because many things can not be told hundred present accurately. As I said in the previous example, even when the green light is shining you can not give a hundred present guarantee of safe passage as accidents may occur due to various other reasons. Life is a very complex thing many influencing factors are taking part during the course of a persons life It is dynamic, constantly changing just like clouds and weather patterns. > > Only a divine entity or God can predict for 100% accuracy about the course of a life of a person. No being born as a human (except a Buddha - The meaning of word Buddha itself is the highest of higher human intellect) can predict with 100% surety about course of a life of a person. > > Because a persons life is governed by Karma and so complex the karmas are it is difficult to fully comprehend by a person with ordinary intellect. > > With respect, I must mention that, even Maha Irshies were not able to do it fully. That is why the ancient texts written by different Irshies, though not always but sometimes suggest different methods or interpretations in regard to the same thing. For an example in regard to Planetary periods or Dashas, there are a number of methods suggested, Ashthoothari, Vimshotharri, Yogini etc.. > > Thanks to the works of Irshis and Sages and all the other scholars of the of the past, about 75 - 80 % degree of accuracy of predictions can be achieved by a good astrologer at present, if more than that, the rest is pure chance. (If anybody says he can do better than that and can always give 100% correct predictions, then he is not an astrologer but a new Buddha. Apart from the Gauthama the Buddha for this " Kalpha " or the epoch, an another additional Buddha had seems to be some how appeared on earth). > > No good astrologer who is honest and who knows the subject of astrology well and has a reputation to protect will never mislead people who do not know astrology and dare to say that he or she can give perfect 100% accurate predictions. > > It is as same as that, even for a vehicle which is just out of the production line, a good master engineer will never give a 100% guarantee, say to cross a desert alone and without taking any spare parts. Because he knows very well what many things can go wrong and how many brand new vehicles had been recalled due to various defects. But at the same time a foolish driver who may even do not know how to change a plug, due to his foolishness may take the risk of crossing the desert or even declare the exact time he will arrive at the destination. > > Since the Astrology is the only tool an ordinary human being has, to interpret the Quality and the quantity of Karmas an individual posses, Astrology should be treated with respect. Even though it's accuracy is not always 100%. But nobody should center his life on Astrology alone. Nor reject astrology totally. As Lord Buddha had always advised a person must take the middle path. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: Dear xtecc1109, A very good article and repeated several times over, and sounding like the predictions of weather departments - may or may not rain - so you may carry an umbrella or not choose to, it is upto you. Such messages are a common " thing " on the internet and do not require much intelligence to copy & paste and may be prune a little. We also do find a lot of people around us who hold such views. It is perhaps the english usage of the word " Astrology " that confuses you. If you understand the real essence of the original term " jyotisha " which is " Jyoti " + " ksha " meaning - a light for the eyes to see in the dark, a small beckon, that will help you in times of darkness,  it will not be that confusing. However, to understand the implication of the what essence means, one may have to go through such dark times once or twice in their life time, to know how dreadfull it is. It is only a starved person can tell what hunger is. But a person with a little knowledge of any language can write large scripts, without touching base, pushing others far deeper into comfusions. Before commenting to the above, sit back and think deeper, how far it is going to help others who are groping in the darkness and perplexed without knowing what to do.     Thank you for such En lightning message  Perhaps you can stop the confusion by throwing some of that light on your real name and what you are - to be honest A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ xtec1109 <xtec1109 Thu, December 17, 2009 12:00:25 PM Vedic Astrology....Yes or No  This article doesn't meant to hurt anybody here.Just hope everbody will get clearer picture about astrology.Many view astrology negatively. If you ask me whether there is an effect from that red colour light on a person's life my answer is both " yes " and " no " . No, because it is just a light. Yes, because it indicates a bad period to cross. But if you attribute a godly character to the traffic light pole and starts worshipping it or think that there is a mystery in it. Then it is the lack of true knowledge and understanding. That is why, about 2500 years ago Lord Buddha said " Kim Karrisatthi Taraka ? " What stars can do ? It is not stars doing any thing to you. It is your own actions and the reactions of past actions (Karmas) are shaping your destiny. Your true savior is none but yourself as it is your duty to steer your life on the correct path. Possible or impossible ?(limits of human understanding ) Please note that, though the debate on the existence of all powerful almighty one creator being as such is out of the context of this subject of discussion, I do not exclude the possibility of that there could be (Now we call them as ET's and those days Deities or Angels) highly evolved powerful entities (and also some lowly evolved but powerful entities ) in other dimensions or worlds. A true scientist will never ridicule any possibility. However it may look impossible. Remember, that a few decades back prominent scientists of the time said, it is impossible for an aero plane to take off the ground as it is heavier than the air. Compared with the vastness and the complexity of the universe, what we have discovered and rationally understood is similar to a grain of sand. If you find something mysterious or something which is hard to explain, that does not mean it is not happening or it is impossible to happen. But that means our current understanding, senses, knowledge and the instruments are not yet developed enough to detect, measure and understand the phenomenon. As same as in Meteorology, in Astrology also, there is no definite saying. Because many things can not be told hundred present accurately. As I said in the previous example, even when the green light is shining you can not give a hundred present guarantee of safe passage as accidents may occur due to various other reasons. Life is a very complex thing many influencing factors are taking part during the course of a persons life It is dynamic, constantly changing just like clouds and weather patterns. Only a divine entity or God can predict for 100% accuracy about the course of a life of a person. No being born as a human (except a Buddha - The meaning of word Buddha itself is the highest of higher human intellect) can predict with 100% surety about course of a life of a person. Because a persons life is governed by Karma and so complex the karmas are it is difficult to fully comprehend by a person with ordinary intellect. With respect, I must mention that, even Maha Irshies were not able to do it fully. That is why the ancient texts written by different Irshies, though not always but sometimes suggest different methods or interpretations in regard to the same thing. For an example in regard to Planetary periods or Dashas, there are a number of methods suggested, Ashthoothari, Vimshotharri, Yogini etc.. Thanks to the works of Irshis and Sages and all the other scholars of the of the past, about 75 - 80 % degree of accuracy of predictions can be achieved by a good astrologer at present, if more than that, the rest is pure chance. (If anybody says he can do better than that and can always give 100% correct predictions, then he is not an astrologer but a new Buddha. Apart from the Gauthama the Buddha for this " Kalpha " or the epoch, an another additional Buddha had seems to be some how appeared on earth). No good astrologer who is honest and who knows the subject of astrology well and has a reputation to protect will never mislead people who do not know astrology and dare to say that he or she can give perfect 100% accurate predictions. It is as same as that, even for a vehicle which is just out of the production line, a good master engineer will never give a 100% guarantee, say to cross a desert alone and without taking any spare parts. Because he knows very well what many things can go wrong and how many brand new vehicles had been recalled due to various defects. But at the same time a foolish driver who may even do not know how to change a plug, due to his foolishness may take the risk of crossing the desert or even declare the exact time he will arrive at the destination. Since the Astrology is the only tool an ordinary human being has, to interpret the Quality and the quantity of Karmas an individual posses, Astrology should be treated with respect. Even though it's accuracy is not always 100%. But nobody should center his life on Astrology alone. Nor reject astrology totally. As Lord Buddha had always advised a person must take the middle path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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