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Dear Prashant,

If for the reason, I am not clarifying you the theories,you are not conveying

the messages to Mr.Mishra etc.then it is totally unfair because, I have already

told you,you yourself developed a forum,where,only remidies can be given to

remidy seeker, that's all and nothingelse. In doing so, I am overburdened with

such messages,I dont have even time to discuss all such matters in details that

is the reason, I have been very slow attender to other groups rather then yours

and few others of this content.I have already told you in past,if the matter of

discussion comes, we will discuss the theory in another forum sometime,when,I

will be free ion my research based other astro activity.So,for the reason, I

have only joined only few remidy seeker groups not any other group.

In the above circumstances, your non-communication of mails to Mishra,who

thought that I am sending the mails in a delated process, had it  been promptly

reported to Mishra at that moment because it was a serious discussion,,Mishra

could have not charged me unnecessarily,and repeatedly, that I am sending the

mails in delated process,for no fault of mine. However, I am sending numerouse

messages daily and everything is promptly reported back why this partcular set

of msg.is not working.However, I am doing my thingsl as per the leterally

meaning of the group ie.Jyotish  Remidies, but not Jyothish learning, and if

you still feel inconvenient  please say me clearly so that I will quit the

group that time with a full clarification to all of my advise seekers

happyly.But pl.do not press me to sit on detailing all the issue as I have no

time to do all such, as I am busy writing books, editing, bringing it to in

advanced studies etc.As regards

Durgasaptasathi, I want you also advise the members like Mishra etc. to respond

in brief,to the point, querry based otherwise, Jyotish remidies will one day

automatically turn to Jyotish learning or vedic astrolgy etc.

 

With best wishes,

P K Tripathy.

 

 

 

________________________________

astro <gbp_kumar

 

Tue, December 22, 2009 5:19:25 PM

Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12

 

 

Dear PKT, Misra ji, Members

 

a moderator/owners role is not to edit/judge ur mails or vouch for the

authenticity of any material that passes thru thegroup this members can decipher

themselves what is good, authentic, absurd stuff there r many such instances

 

I am not taking sides with anyone

 

from 15-21st been busy and more so 17-21st night my mother was in a hospital and

I was the attender there so left the group unmodeated so any msg that came

inbetween I have no idea if any msg has offended anyone of u, let me know can

read them and comment/act on them.

 

also from today u r also unmoderated member I normally kept this option for ppl

with 100 dags of untroublesome , controversial posting

 

in ur case U R POSTING UNSUBSTANTIATED OR UNEXPLAINED content and with enough

requests pending to this effect u come up with vague questions and all standard

 

did u live in a old diapliated house at ur birth time

on narrow side road, moved to a few more such houses and now r in a main road

and better house for almost all so no great logic, wisdom is VISIBLE here

 

and surely in this list u will find 50-70ppl with such scenario so no big deal.

 

if and when u can explain them it makes sense else it is just too much to even

consider it material worth reading

 

I am using thabove line after repeated requests to explain them has failed

 

u cud at least upload ur theory on a paper in the file section i said u failed

to do so so don't call others names

 

and on durga saptha sathi or any other pl post ur source of info rest ppl can

decide themselves, india is a vast country with vast knowldge pools so we must

share them OPENLY and try to find the transmission losses if any,m errors if any

and work on them than call oneanother scrap, rubbish or claim superiority on any

one.

 

prashant

 

, Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear  PKGB/Dhrendranath Mishra,

>

> Mr PKGB,  As I have sent all quick response to Dhirendra's querry but as you

have categorically written that due to your server problem, you could not post

my mails, then you should have convinced that to Mr. Mishra, as I am totally

write in communicating my resoponses quickly but knowingly though you

thatMr.Dhirendra is charging me I was delay in my response, you are silent, this

itself refklects as a grouporganiser, you are engaged in promoting wrong 

description to innocent learners.

> Further, this is not first time, my mails are knowingly withhold particularly

when I catch one of your bunch's mistakes, also in previous time only such

category postings have been withhold.So, whenever any such trouble occures, you

should yourself clarify the people like Dhirendra, who without  knowing

anything charging for my delayed responses,in which I have no fault and you have

been begged excuses to me for the non posting my mail due to your mistake.So

whenevr such things happens pl.clarify to the people, who charging 

unnecessarily, otherwise, such practices will be reflected in through out the

groups, because, ore comments in any topic will be seriously reviewed as we

people are known in various groups reputedly..

>

> P.K.Tripathy.

>

>

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Dear respected sir,

The problem is you are missing a fundamental point. Moderator has no duty keep

clarifying things like a teacher does in a classroom.

He is an individual with other responsibilities in life too. He may choose to

moderate when he feels that members are using foul language or he may interfere

if an uncontrolled heated arguement is taking place.

He is not being paid any salary or honerarium by the group and hence we cannot

demand interference by him.

We are mature members and not kids in classroom for him to be present always

with us.

As far as delayed mail is concerned i have seen atlease 2 posts by the moderator

in general to all that he is not delaying it at his level. That is more than

enough.

Thanks and regards

Santhosh

 

Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

 

 

Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89

Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:49:32

 

Re: Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right

22/12

 

Dear Prashant,

If for the reason, I am not clarifying you the theories,you are not conveying

the messages to Mr.Mishra etc.then it is totally unfair because, I have already

told you,you yourself developed a forum,where,only remidies can be given to

remidy seeker, that's all and nothingelse. In doing so, I am overburdened with

such messages,I dont have even time to discuss all such matters in details that

is the reason, I have been very slow attender to other groups rather then yours

and few others of this content.I have already told you in past,if the matter of

discussion comes, we will discuss the theory in another forum sometime,when,I

will be free ion my research based other astro activity.So,for the reason, I

have only joined only few remidy seeker groups not any other group.

In the above circumstances, your non-communication of mails to Mishra,who

thought that I am sending the mails in a delated process, had it  been promptly

reported to Mishra at that moment because it was a serious discussion,,Mishra

could have not charged me unnecessarily,and repeatedly, that I am sending the

mails in delated process,for no fault of mine. However, I am sending numerouse

messages daily and everything is promptly reported back why this partcular set

of msg.is not working.However, I am doing my thingsl as per the leterally

meaning of the group ie.Jyotish  Remidies, but not Jyothish learning, and if

you still feel inconvenient  please say me clearly so that I will quit the

group that time with a full clarification to all of my advise seekers

happyly.But pl.do not press me to sit on detailing all the issue as I have no

time to do all such, as I am busy writing books, editing, bringing it to in

advanced studies etc.As regards

Durgasaptasathi, I want you also advise the members like Mishra etc. to respond

in brief,to the point, querry based otherwise, Jyotish remidies will one day

automatically turn to Jyotish learning or vedic astrolgy etc.

 

With best wishes,

P K Tripathy.

 

 

 

________________________________

astro <gbp_kumar

 

Tue, December 22, 2009 5:19:25 PM

Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12

 

 

Dear PKT, Misra ji, Members

 

a moderator/owners role is not to edit/judge ur mails or vouch for the

authenticity of any material that passes thru thegroup this members can decipher

themselves what is good, authentic, absurd stuff there r many such instances

 

I am not taking sides with anyone

 

from 15-21st been busy and more so 17-21st night my mother was in a hospital and

I was the attender there so left the group unmodeated so any msg that came

inbetween I have no idea if any msg has offended anyone of u, let me know can

read them and comment/act on them.

 

also from today u r also unmoderated member I normally kept this option for ppl

with 100 dags of untroublesome , controversial posting

 

in ur case U R POSTING UNSUBSTANTIATED OR UNEXPLAINED content and with enough

requests pending to this effect u come up with vague questions and all standard

 

did u live in a old diapliated house at ur birth time

on narrow side road, moved to a few more such houses and now r in a main road

and better house for almost all so no great logic, wisdom is VISIBLE here

 

and surely in this list u will find 50-70ppl with such scenario so no big deal.

 

if and when u can explain them it makes sense else it is just too much to even

consider it material worth reading

 

I am using thabove line after repeated requests to explain them has failed

 

u cud at least upload ur theory on a paper in the file section i said u failed

to do so so don't call others names

 

and on durga saptha sathi or any other pl post ur source of info rest ppl can

decide themselves, india is a vast country with vast knowldge pools so we must

share them OPENLY and try to find the transmission losses if any,m errors if any

and work on them than call oneanother scrap, rubbish or claim superiority on any

one.

 

prashant

 

, Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear  PKGB/Dhrendranath Mishra,

>

> Mr PKGB,  As I have sent all quick response to Dhirendra's querry but as you

have categorically written that due to your server problem, you could not post

my mails, then you should have convinced that to Mr. Mishra, as I am totally

write in communicating my resoponses quickly but knowingly though you

thatMr.Dhirendra is charging me I was delay in my response, you are silent, this

itself refklects as a grouporganiser, you are engaged in promoting wrong 

description to innocent learners.

> Further, this is not first time, my mails are knowingly withhold particularly

when I catch one of your bunch's mistakes, also in previous time only such

category postings have been withhold.So, whenever any such trouble occures, you

should yourself clarify the people like Dhirendra, who without  knowing

anything charging for my delayed responses,in which I have no fault and you have

been begged excuses to me for the non posting my mail due to your mistake.So

whenevr such things happens pl.clarify to the people, who charging 

unnecessarily, otherwise, such practices will be reflected in through out the

groups, because, ore comments in any topic will be seriously reviewed as we

people are known in various groups reputedly..

>

> P.K.Tripathy.

>

>

>

>

>

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PKT

 

u r missing the point so clearly said manytimes]]1 i did not read many posts at

leat 73+31 frrom dec 14-22nd

 

as i was at hospital with my mother

 

on sat i approced 73 msgs PENDING urs was part of it

 

Misra ji was unmoderated member since dec 7th

ur from y'day r unmoderated so al ur posts will come now like his

 

actually iset the entire grp to auto posting THAT DID NOT HAPPEN from side

not my fault

so on sat approved 73, y'day after my mother discharge i approved 31 msgs as i

was th attender to my mother

my mother is 70, father 82, me 48 younger of the lot had to spend full time with

her

 

at ho,me now my father takes care of th e medication timings rest still have to

do myself

-------------------

i am not holding ur mails for any reason other than said and many others r stuck

too

 

u cans ee the spate of msgs at short time stamps in the grp to know it

 

also all of us have stopped reading ur posts as u dont explain anything is a

second matter nothing personal

 

as u write same stuff to all and dont even clarify the same to members if they

reply also so what do we lear/share nothing so we rather skip them

 

only if u abuse any1 and comes to my nocice do react

 

 

prashant

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89

 

Tue, December 22, 2009 7:19:32 PM

Re: Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right

22/12

 

 

Dear Prashant,

If for the reason, I am not clarifying you the theories,you are not conveying

the messages to Mr.Mishra etc.then it is totally unfair because, I have already

told you,you yourself developed a forum,where, only remidies can be given to

remidy seeker, that's all and nothingelse. In doing so, I am overburdened with

such messages,I dont have even time to discuss all such matters in details that

is the reason, I have been very slow attender to other groups rather then yours

and few others of this content.I have already told you in past,if the matter of

discussion comes, we will discuss the theory in another forum sometime,when, I

will be free ion my research based other astro activity.So, for the reason, I

have only joined only few remidy seeker groups not any other group.

In the above circumstances, your non-communication of mails to Mishra,who

thought that I am sending the mails in a delated process, had it been promptly

reported to Mishra at that moment because it was a serious discussion,, Mishra

could have not charged me unnecessarily, and repeatedly, that I am sending the

mails in delated process,for no fault of mine. However, I am sending numerouse

messages daily and everything is promptly reported back why this partcular set

of msg.is not working.However, I am doing my thingsl as per the leterally

meaning of the group ie.Jyotish Remidies, but not Jyothish learning, and if you

still feel inconvenient please say me clearly so that I will quit the group

that time with a full clarification to all of my advise seekers happyly.But

pl.do not press me to sit on detailing all the issue as I have no time to do all

such, as I am busy writing books, editing, bringing it to in advanced studies

etc.As regards

Durgasaptasathi, I want you also advise the members like Mishra etc. to respond

in brief,to the point, querry based otherwise, Jyotish remidies will one day

automatically turn to Jyotish learning or vedic astrolgy etc.

 

With best wishes,

P K Tripathy.

 

____________ _________ _________ __

astro <gbp_kumar >

 

Tue, December 22, 2009 5:19:25 PM

Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12

 

 

Dear PKT, Misra ji, Members

 

a moderator/owners role is not to edit/judge ur mails or vouch for the

authenticity of any material that passes thru thegroup this members can decipher

themselves what is good, authentic, absurd stuff there r many such instances

 

I am not taking sides with anyone

 

from 15-21st been busy and more so 17-21st night my mother was in a hospital and

I was the attender there so left the group unmodeated so any msg that came

inbetween I have no idea if any msg has offended anyone of u, let me know can

read them and comment/act on them.

 

also from today u r also unmoderated member I normally kept this option for ppl

with 100 dags of untroublesome , controversial posting

 

in ur case U R POSTING UNSUBSTANTIATED OR UNEXPLAINED content and with enough

requests pending to this effect u come up with vague questions and all standard

 

did u live in a old diapliated house at ur birth time

on narrow side road, moved to a few more such houses and now r in a main road

and better house for almost all so no great logic, wisdom is VISIBLE here

 

and surely in this list u will find 50-70ppl with such scenario so no big deal.

 

if and when u can explain them it makes sense else it is just too much to even

consider it material worth reading

 

I am using thabove line after repeated requests to explain them has failed

 

u cud at least upload ur theory on a paper in the file section i said u failed

to do so so don't call others names

 

and on durga saptha sathi or any other pl post ur source of info rest ppl can

decide themselves, india is a vast country with vast knowldge pools so we must

share them OPENLY and try to find the transmission losses if any,m errors if any

and work on them than call oneanother scrap, rubbish or claim superiority on any

one.

 

prashant

 

, Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear PKGB/Dhrendranath Mishra,

>

> Mr PKGB, As I have sent all quick response to Dhirendra's querry but as you

have categorically written that due to your server problem, you could not post

my mails, then you should have convinced that to Mr. Mishra, as I am totally

write in communicating my resoponses quickly but knowingly though you

thatMr.Dhirendra is charging me I was delay in my response, you are silent, this

itself refklects as a grouporganiser, you are engaged in promoting wrong

description to innocent learners.

> Further, this is not first time, my mails are knowingly withhold particularly

when I catch one of your bunch's mistakes, also in previous time only such

category postings have been withhold.So, whenever any such trouble occures, you

should yourself clarify the people like Dhirendra, who without knowing anything

charging for my delayed responses,in which I have no fault and you have been

begged excuses to me for the non posting my mail due to your mistake.So whenevr

such things happens pl.clarify to the people, who charging unnecessarily,

otherwise, such practices will be reflected in through out the groups, because,

ore comments in any topic will be seriously reviewed as we people are known in

various groups reputedly..

>

> P.K.Tripathy.

>

>

>

>

>

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Santosh

 

a good post that states v clearly what i have been saying and what all

moderators do

 

except one or two self styled ppl who claim more than they deliver and by doing

it they r killing free speech, exchange of info, ideas

 

and as said many time the subjects in discussion here is too vast and India is v

rich in diversity many shades of views branches of knowlesge exist on any given

subject/stream we have to share witha open mind and if we find something too

uncommon, controversial surely majority members will do state their views v

clearly than allow it to pass un contosted as is happening now why call members

names

 

above all PKT himself never shares info, techniques with anyone inspite of

repeated requests for it escapes under some cover

 

so if he protests that we r shielding some ppl

WHICH I SAID MANYTIMES IS NOT TRUE BUT circumstantial to me not being active due

to my stay in the hospital

 

he has not seen the point in few mails already said on this

 

anyway thanks for ur post

 

 

hope he see thelight in it

 

 

..- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

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________________________________

" santhosh " <santhosh

 

Tue, December 22, 2009 7:33:17 PM

Re: Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right

22/12

 

 

Dear respected sir,

The problem is you are missing a fundamental point. Moderator has no duty keep

clarifying things like a teacher does in a classroom.

He is an individual with other responsibilities in life too. He may choose to

moderate when he feels that members are using foul language or he may interfere

if an uncontrolled heated arguement is taking place.

He is not being paid any salary or honerarium by the group and hence we cannot

demand interference by him.

We are mature members and not kids in classroom for him to be present always

with us.

As far as delayed mail is concerned i have seen atlease 2 posts by the moderator

in general to all that he is not delaying it at his level. That is more than

enough.

Thanks and regards

Santhosh

 

Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

 

 

Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ >

Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:49:32

<>

Re: Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right

22/12

 

Dear Prashant,

If for the reason, I am not clarifying you the theories,you are not conveying

the messages to Mr.Mishra etc.then it is totally unfair because, I have already

told you,you yourself developed a forum,where, only remidies can be given to

remidy seeker, that's all and nothingelse. In doing so, I am overburdened with

such messages,I dont have even time to discuss all such matters in details that

is the reason, I have been very slow attender to other groups rather then yours

and few others of this content.I have already told you in past,if the matter of

discussion comes, we will discuss the theory in another forum sometime,when, I

will be free ion my research based other astro activity.So, for the reason, I

have only joined only few remidy seeker groups not any other group.

In the above circumstances, your non-communication of mails to Mishra,who

thought that I am sending the mails in a delated process, had it been promptly

reported to Mishra at that moment because it was a serious discussion,, Mishra

could have not charged me unnecessarily, and repeatedly, that I am sending the

mails in delated process,for no fault of mine. However, I am sending numerouse

messages daily and everything is promptly reported back why this partcular set

of msg.is not working.However, I am doing my thingsl as per the leterally

meaning of the group ie.Jyotish Remidies, but not Jyothish learning, and if you

still feel inconvenient please say me clearly so that I will quit the group

that time with a full clarification to all of my advise seekers happyly.But

pl.do not press me to sit on detailing all the issue as I have no time to do all

such, as I am busy writing books, editing, bringing it to in advanced studies

etc.As regards

Durgasaptasathi, I want you also advise the members like Mishra etc. to respond

in brief,to the point, querry based otherwise, Jyotish remidies will one day

automatically turn to Jyotish learning or vedic astrolgy etc.

 

With best wishes,

P K Tripathy.

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

astro <gbp_kumar >

 

Tue, December 22, 2009 5:19:25 PM

Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12

 

 

Dear PKT, Misra ji, Members

 

a moderator/owners role is not to edit/judge ur mails or vouch for the

authenticity of any material that passes thru thegroup this members can decipher

themselves what is good, authentic, absurd stuff there r many such instances

 

I am not taking sides with anyone

 

from 15-21st been busy and more so 17-21st night my mother was in a hospital and

I was the attender there so left the group unmodeated so any msg that came

inbetween I have no idea if any msg has offended anyone of u, let me know can

read them and comment/act on them.

 

also from today u r also unmoderated member I normally kept this option for ppl

with 100 dags of untroublesome , controversial posting

 

in ur case U R POSTING UNSUBSTANTIATED OR UNEXPLAINED content and with enough

requests pending to this effect u come up with vague questions and all standard

 

did u live in a old diapliated house at ur birth time

on narrow side road, moved to a few more such houses and now r in a main road

and better house for almost all so no great logic, wisdom is VISIBLE here

 

and surely in this list u will find 50-70ppl with such scenario so no big deal.

 

if and when u can explain them it makes sense else it is just too much to even

consider it material worth reading

 

I am using thabove line after repeated requests to explain them has failed

 

u cud at least upload ur theory on a paper in the file section i said u failed

to do so so don't call others names

 

and on durga saptha sathi or any other pl post ur source of info rest ppl can

decide themselves, india is a vast country with vast knowldge pools so we must

share them OPENLY and try to find the transmission losses if any,m errors if any

and work on them than call oneanother scrap, rubbish or claim superiority on any

one.

 

prashant

 

, Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear PKGB/Dhrendranath Mishra,

>

> Mr PKGB, As I have sent all quick response to Dhirendra's querry but as you

have categorically written that due to your server problem, you could not post

my mails, then you should have convinced that to Mr. Mishra, as I am totally

write in communicating my resoponses quickly but knowingly though you

thatMr.Dhirendra is charging me I was delay in my response, you are silent, this

itself refklects as a grouporganiser, you are engaged in promoting wrong

description to innocent learners.

> Further, this is not first time, my mails are knowingly withhold particularly

when I catch one of your bunch's mistakes, also in previous time only such

category postings have been withhold.So, whenever any such trouble occures, you

should yourself clarify the people like Dhirendra, who without knowing anything

charging for my delayed responses,in which I have no fault and you have been

begged excuses to me for the non posting my mail due to your mistake.So whenevr

such things happens pl.clarify to the people, who charging unnecessarily,

otherwise, such practices will be reflected in through out the groups, because,

ore comments in any topic will be seriously reviewed as we people are known in

various groups reputedly..

>

> P.K.Tripathy.

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Friends,

I think the following sums up different roles of members who have interest in

the group as contributors,genuine seekers to solve problems of themselves and

share concern in others.

Moderator,contributes for the harmonious relationships and occassion to over see

that the group's objects are getting promoted with  investment of his wisdom

but not his involvment on day today basis as a referee in kabaddi or in kho

kho(favourite Indian games)

Shri Promod Ji has devoted his his time for the sake of group's development and

bringing the views of senior people and maintain harmony.He laboured very much

to explain and convince w/o interfering in their freedom of  expression.He has

contributed lot for the members to voice and share their knowledge.where ever

motives of members seems to inflict the health of the group,he interjected to

contain the back ground noise.

with the following suggestions of Shri RRji and Santosh Ji,for the group

defining the roles iam sure v do not have future occassions to judge who's doing

what?is it right or wrong?

Santosh Ji,you r absolutely right " We are mature members and not kids in

classroom for him to be present always with us " .

 

Shri Rohini ji words " Democracy allows one to stretch their arms, fingers, fist

AS FAR AS THEY WISH, but JUST SHORT OF WHERE MY NOSE BEGINS! " are always

supportive to achieve a purpose in cyber net media.The opinion on " cyber

jyotish " is a positive reinforcement and need certainly to be born in mind in

interactions. 

 

 

Ps:Dada, it is interesting to note about " peanut gallery " and the joy I feel in

joining with him in this reserved? section.Iam sure it is not the label but to

enjoy warmer 'walnuts " and " cashew nuts "

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Tue, 12/22/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12

 

Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 10:20 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Kumar_ji,

 

Please, never again feel it necessary to justify or explain how you moderate or

what you do or what you are supposed to do! I have observed many of the

individuals on the Jyotish scene and while each have their individual strengths

and weaknesses and flavours, every single one is IMPORTANT and VITAL and

ESSENTIAL to Jyotish on Internet!

 

I realize that I am a peanut-gallery person and so some of the 'players' get

angry and upset with me, but that is okay!

 

Speaking for myself, I have over the years seen you devote your personal time

and effort and energy, despite exigences in family or at work etc -- and mostly

in a rather admirable way!

 

In return, perhaps you may feel that you have not received anything back in

terms of kindness or appreciation but that is not true! Your situation, if I may

be so bold -- is of a person who has worked hard and is now trying to listen to

the favourite music station for relaxation, for the work is not done and there

is a tomorrow with its problems and what not!

 

But just as the music got tuned in to, the skid-row outside became active and

created the noise that sometimes drowns the music! Perhaps it is because those

that are fighting out on the street are known to you and you feel compelled to

intervene!

 

The fault is yours! :-)

 

As a moderator, you were given the right to close the window and 'ground' the

trouble-makers! Democracy is not at stake because it has been defined by an

earlier American President as:

 

Democracy allows one to stretch their arms, fingers, fist AS FAR AS THEY WISH,

but JUST SHORT OF WHERE MY NOSE BEGINS!

 

The RIGHT to ANNONYMITY GRANTED BY INTERNET was not supposed to give one any

special powers BUT remind one of their human responsibilities!

 

It is sad that many abuse it, but do they really think NO ONE IS WATCHING OR

RECORDING?

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ...>

wrote:

>

> Santosh

>

> a good post that states v clearly what i have been saying and what all

moderators do

>

> except one or two self styled ppl who claim more than they deliver and by

doing it they r killing free speech, exchange of info, ideas

>

> and as said many time the subjects in discussion here is too vast and India is

v rich in diversity many shades of views branches of knowlesge exist on any

given subject/stream we have to share witha open mind and if we find something

too uncommon, controversial surely majority members will do state their views v

clearly than allow it to pass un contosted as is happening now why call members

names

>

> above all PKT himself never shares info, techniques with anyone inspite of

repeated requests for it escapes under some cover

>

> so if he protests that we r shielding some ppl

> WHICH I SAID MANYTIMES IS NOT TRUE BUT circumstantial to me not being active

due to my stay in the hospital

>

> he has not seen the point in few mails already said on this

>

> anyway thanks for ur post

>

>

> hope he see thelight in it

>

>

> .- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> " santhosh@.. . " <santhosh@.. .>

>

> Tue, December 22, 2009 7:33:17 PM

> Re: Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right

22/12

>

>

> Dear respected sir,

> The problem is you are missing a fundamental point. Moderator has no duty keep

clarifying things like a teacher does in a classroom.

> He is an individual with other responsibilities in life too. He may choose to

moderate when he feels that members are using foul language or he may interfere

if an uncontrolled heated arguement is taking place.

> He is not being paid any salary or honerarium by the group and hence we cannot

demand interference by him.

> We are mature members and not kids in classroom for him to be present always

with us.

> As far as delayed mail is concerned i have seen atlease 2 posts by the

moderator in general to all that he is not delaying it at his level. That is

more than enough.

> Thanks and regards

> Santhosh

>

> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

>

>

> Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ >

> Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:49:32

> <>

> Re: Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right

22/12

>

> Dear Prashant,

> If for the reason, I am not clarifying you the theories,you are not conveying

the messages to Mr.Mishra etc.then it is totally unfair because, I have already

told you,you yourself developed a forum,where, only remidies can be given to

remidy seeker, that's all and nothingelse. In doing so, I am overburdened with

such messages,I dont have even time to discuss all such matters in details that

is the reason, I have been very slow attender to other groups rather then yours

and few others of this content.I have already told you in past,if the matter of

discussion comes, we will discuss the theory in another forum sometime,when, I

will be free ion my research based other astro activity.So, for the reason, I

have only joined only few remidy seeker groups not any other group.

> In the above circumstances, your non-communication of mails to Mishra,who

thought that I am sending the mails in a delated process, had it been promptly

reported to Mishra at that moment because it was a serious discussion,, Mishra

could have not charged me unnecessarily, and repeatedly, that I am sending the

mails in delated process,for no fault of mine. However, I am sending numerouse

messages daily and everything is promptly reported back why this partcular set

of msg.is not working.However, I am doing my thingsl as per the leterally

meaning of the group ie.Jyotish Remidies, but not Jyothish learning, and if you

still feel inconvenient please say me clearly so that I will quit the group that

time with a full clarification to all of my advise seekers happyly.But pl.do not

press me to sit on detailing all the issue as I have no time to do all such, as

I am busy writing books, editing, bringing it to in advanced studies etc.As

regards

> Durgasaptasathi, I want you also advise the members like Mishra etc. to

respond in brief,to the point, querry based otherwise, Jyotish remidies will one

day automatically turn to Jyotish learning or vedic astrolgy etc.

>

> With best wishes,

> P K Tripathy.

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> astro <gbp_kumar >

>

> Tue, December 22, 2009 5:19:25 PM

> Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12

>

>

> Dear PKT, Misra ji, Members

>

> a moderator/owners role is not to edit/judge ur mails or vouch for the

authenticity of any material that passes thru thegroup this members can decipher

themselves what is good, authentic, absurd stuff there r many such instances

>

> I am not taking sides with anyone

>

> from 15-21st been busy and more so 17-21st night my mother was in a hospital

and I was the attender there so left the group unmodeated so any msg that came

inbetween I have no idea if any msg has offended anyone of u, let me know can

read them and comment/act on them.

>

> also from today u r also unmoderated member I normally kept this option for

ppl with 100 dags of untroublesome , controversial posting

>

> in ur case U R POSTING UNSUBSTANTIATED OR UNEXPLAINED content and with enough

requests pending to this effect u come up with vague questions and all standard

>

> did u live in a old diapliated house at ur birth time

> on narrow side road, moved to a few more such houses and now r in a main road

and better house for almost all so no great logic, wisdom is VISIBLE here

>

> and surely in this list u will find 50-70ppl with such scenario so no big

deal.

>

> if and when u can explain them it makes sense else it is just too much to even

consider it material worth reading

>

> I am using thabove line after repeated requests to explain them has failed

>

> u cud at least upload ur theory on a paper in the file section i said u failed

to do so so don't call others names

>

> and on durga saptha sathi or any other pl post ur source of info rest ppl can

decide themselves, india is a vast country with vast knowldge pools so we must

share them OPENLY and try to find the transmission losses if any,m errors if any

and work on them than call oneanother scrap, rubbish or claim superiority on any

one.

>

> prashant

>

> , Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear PKGB/Dhrendranath Mishra,

> >

> > Mr PKGB, As I have sent all quick response to Dhirendra's querry but as you

have categorically written that due to your server problem, you could not post

my mails, then you should have convinced that to Mr. Mishra, as I am totally

write in communicating my resoponses quickly but knowingly though you

thatMr.Dhirendra is charging me I was delay in my response, you are silent, this

itself refklects as a grouporganiser, you are engaged in promoting wrong

description to innocent learners.

> > Further, this is not first time, my mails are knowingly withhold

particularly when I catch one of your bunch's mistakes, also in previous time

only such category postings have been withhold.So, whenever any such trouble

occures, you should yourself clarify the people like Dhirendra, who without

knowing anything charging for my delayed responses,in which I have no fault and

you have been begged excuses to me for the non posting my mail due to your

mistake.So whenevr such things happens pl.clarify to the people, who charging

unnecessarily, otherwise, such practices will be reflected in through out the

groups, because, ore comments in any topic will be seriously reviewed as we

people are known in various groups reputedly..

> >

> > P.K.Tripathy.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear RRji, Krishna ji

 

 

good posts vy seniors in diff forums though each of our experiences have been

surely for a few decades but on the net u r way ahead than me and have seen " The

climate change "

 

I am not justifying my role, effort to anyone esp PKT as he claimes I have a

grudge over his work inspite of putting the lines i did my best to see it is

unmoderated to all in my absence and trusted it to be so rest is s's role I

did say why i am not physicaly present to which he has not read, reacted

 

Misra ji too in the past has accuised me of withholding his mails

 

which all moderated msgs come once in 2-3 hrs all new members I meant unlike old

members get free passage so is he now and PKT also so

 

they will surely rue the situation when faced with a slanging match situation

and want s to spare/defend them so let them have their time out there, the wiser

of the will use self restraint

 

and draw their own lines suresh babu ji ha set a good line much before PKT has

 

so ppl will exchange the info they know openly and we all know, learn update ur

resources

 

thanks

 

 

 

 

________________________________

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

 

Wed, December 23, 2009 8:50:08 AM

Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12

 

 

Dear Kumar_ji,

 

Please, never again feel it necessary to justify or explain how you moderate or

what you do or what you are supposed to do! I have observed many of the

individuals on the Jyotish scene and while each have their individual strengths

and weaknesses and flavours, every single one is IMPORTANT and VITAL and

ESSENTIAL to Jyotish on Internet!

 

I realize that I am a peanut-gallery person and so some of the 'players' get

angry and upset with me, but that is okay!

 

Speaking for myself, I have over the years seen you devote your personal time

and effort and energy, despite exigences in family or at work etc -- and mostly

in a rather admirable way!

 

In return, perhaps you may feel that you have not received anything back in

terms of kindness or appreciation but that is not true! Your situation, if I may

be so bold -- is of a person who has worked hard and is now trying to listen to

the favourite music station for relaxation, for the work is not done and there

is a tomorrow with its problems and what not!

 

But just as the music got tuned in to, the skid-row outside became active and

created the noise that sometimes drowns the music! Perhaps it is because those

that are fighting out on the street are known to you and you feel compelled to

intervene!

 

The fault is yours! :-)

 

As a moderator, you were given the right to close the window and 'ground' the

trouble-makers! Democracy is not at stake because it has been defined by an

earlier American President as:

 

Democracy allows one to stretch their arms, fingers, fist AS FAR AS THEY WISH,

but JUST SHORT OF WHERE MY NOSE BEGINS!

 

The RIGHT to ANNONYMITY GRANTED BY INTERNET was not supposed to give one any

special powers BUT remind one of their human responsibilities!

 

It is sad that many abuse it, but do they really think NO ONE IS WATCHING OR

RECORDING?

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Santosh

>

> a good post that states v clearly what i have been saying and what all

moderators do

>

> except one or two self styled ppl who claim more than they deliver and by

doing it they r killing free speech, exchange of info, ideas

>

> and as said many time the subjects in discussion here is too vast and India is

v rich in diversity many shades of views branches of knowlesge exist on any

given subject/stream we have to share witha open mind and if we find something

too uncommon, controversial surely majority members will do state their views v

clearly than allow it to pass un contosted as is happening now why call members

names

>

> above all PKT himself never shares info, techniques with anyone inspite of

repeated requests for it escapes under some cover

>

> so if he protests that we r shielding some ppl

> WHICH I SAID MANYTIMES IS NOT TRUE BUT circumstantial to me not being active

due to my stay in the hospital

>

> he has not seen the point in few mails already said on this

>

> anyway thanks for ur post

>

>

> hope he see thelight in it

>

>

> .- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> " santhosh@.. . " <santhosh@.. .>

>

> Tue, December 22, 2009 7:33:17 PM

> Re: Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right

22/12

>

>

> Dear respected sir,

> The problem is you are missing a fundamental point. Moderator has no duty keep

clarifying things like a teacher does in a classroom.

> He is an individual with other responsibilities in life too. He may choose to

moderate when he feels that members are using foul language or he may interfere

if an uncontrolled heated arguement is taking place.

> He is not being paid any salary or honerarium by the group and hence we cannot

demand interference by him.

> We are mature members and not kids in classroom for him to be present always

with us.

> As far as delayed mail is concerned i have seen atlease 2 posts by the

moderator in general to all that he is not delaying it at his level. That is

more than enough.

> Thanks and regards

> Santhosh

>

> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

>

>

> Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ >

> Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:49:32

> <>

> Re: Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right

22/12

>

> Dear Prashant,

> If for the reason, I am not clarifying you the theories,you are not conveying

the messages to Mr.Mishra etc.then it is totally unfair because, I have already

told you,you yourself developed a forum,where, only remidies can be given to

remidy seeker, that's all and nothingelse. In doing so, I am overburdened with

such messages,I dont have even time to discuss all such matters in details that

is the reason, I have been very slow attender to other groups rather then yours

and few others of this content.I have already told you in past,if the matter of

discussion comes, we will discuss the theory in another forum sometime,when, I

will be free ion my research based other astro activity.So, for the reason, I

have only joined only few remidy seeker groups not any other group.

> In the above circumstances, your non-communication of mails to Mishra,who

thought that I am sending the mails in a delated process, had it been promptly

reported to Mishra at that moment because it was a serious discussion,, Mishra

could have not charged me unnecessarily, and repeatedly, that I am sending the

mails in delated process,for no fault of mine. However, I am sending numerouse

messages daily and everything is promptly reported back why this partcular set

of msg.is not working.However, I am doing my thingsl as per the leterally

meaning of the group ie.Jyotish Remidies, but not Jyothish learning, and if you

still feel inconvenient please say me clearly so that I will quit the group

that time with a full clarification to all of my advise seekers happyly.But

pl.do not press me to sit on detailing all the issue as I have no time to do all

such, as I am busy writing books, editing, bringing it to in advanced studies

etc.As regards

> Durgasaptasathi, I want you also advise the members like Mishra etc. to

respond in brief,to the point, querry based otherwise, Jyotish remidies will one

day automatically turn to Jyotish learning or vedic astrolgy etc.

>

> With best wishes,

> P K Tripathy.

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> astro <gbp_kumar >

>

> Tue, December 22, 2009 5:19:25 PM

> Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12

>

>

> Dear PKT, Misra ji, Members

>

> a moderator/owners role is not to edit/judge ur mails or vouch for the

authenticity of any material that passes thru thegroup this members can decipher

themselves what is good, authentic, absurd stuff there r many such instances

>

> I am not taking sides with anyone

>

> from 15-21st been busy and more so 17-21st night my mother was in a hospital

and I was the attender there so left the group unmodeated so any msg that came

inbetween I have no idea if any msg has offended anyone of u, let me know can

read them and comment/act on them.

>

> also from today u r also unmoderated member I normally kept this option for

ppl with 100 dags of untroublesome , controversial posting

>

> in ur case U R POSTING UNSUBSTANTIATED OR UNEXPLAINED content and with enough

requests pending to this effect u come up with vague questions and all standard

>

> did u live in a old diapliated house at ur birth time

> on narrow side road, moved to a few more such houses and now r in a main road

and better house for almost all so no great logic, wisdom is VISIBLE here

>

> and surely in this list u will find 50-70ppl with such scenario so no big

deal.

>

> if and when u can explain them it makes sense else it is just too much to even

consider it material worth reading

>

> I am using thabove line after repeated requests to explain them has failed

>

> u cud at least upload ur theory on a paper in the file section i said u failed

to do so so don't call others names

>

> and on durga saptha sathi or any other pl post ur source of info rest ppl can

decide themselves, india is a vast country with vast knowldge pools so we must

share them OPENLY and try to find the transmission losses if any,m errors if any

and work on them than call oneanother scrap, rubbish or claim superiority on any

one.

>

> prashant

>

> , Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear PKGB/Dhrendranath Mishra,

> >

> > Mr PKGB, As I have sent all quick response to Dhirendra's querry but as you

have categorically written that due to your server problem, you could not post

my mails, then you should have convinced that to Mr. Mishra, as I am totally

write in communicating my resoponses quickly but knowingly though you

thatMr.Dhirendra is charging me I was delay in my response, you are silent, this

itself refklects as a grouporganiser, you are engaged in promoting wrong

description to innocent learners.

> > Further, this is not first time, my mails are knowingly withhold

particularly when I catch one of your bunch's mistakes, also in previous time

only such category postings have been withhold.So, whenever any such trouble

occures, you should yourself clarify the people like Dhirendra, who without

knowing anything charging for my delayed responses,in which I have no fault and

you have been begged excuses to me for the non posting my mail due to your

mistake.So whenevr such things happens pl.clarify to the people, who charging

unnecessarily, otherwise, such practices will be reflected in through out the

groups, because, ore comments in any topic will be seriously reviewed as we

people are known in various groups reputedly..

> >

> > P.K.Tripathy.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Mr.Prashant,

 

I have seen much hie and cry, on the topic especially Mr. Mishra is even

requesting you to quit me from, Membership. So, I would also request you Mr

Prashant to consider Mr. Mishra's request and just write down a single word that

you ppl are feeling inconvenient in myposts,though remidy seekers are happy,only

becoz I have no time for such communcation got  busy in number of research

based prject and  off-line consultancy from different group members, and

plenty of work to carry out, you will unnecessarily make Mr Mishra unhappy by

keeping me in your board.

But, in fact,I would like now to clarify your comments on WISDOM IS VISIBLE

WHICH REPEATED BY MR DHIRENDRA NATH MISHRA IN HIS POST TO YOU WITH A REQUEST TO

QUIT ME.In earlier also it was commented by mr Suresh Babu, about my knowledge

 

Here looking to the points, I would like to clarify you all learned ppl.

1) First of all tell me  categorically how can you predict time based analysis

when the CURREN ASTRO-STUDIES IS PASSING THROUGH A VERY CRUCIAL STAGE OF DECADES

LONG AYANASA DESPUTES AND HAD REACHED IN A CLIMAX DONATING A NICE GIFT TO ALL OF

US LEARNED ASTROLOGERS,WITH A SATURN DIFFERENTIATE MOVEMENT OF 15-30 DAYS.CAN

YOU PL.CLARIFY LOGICALLY ADVANCED ASTRONOMY THEORY WHICH ONE IS CORRECT AND HOW

U R GOING TO PREPARE A HOROSCOPE WITH SPECIFIC SCIENTIFIC RESULT UNDER SUCH

CONTROVERSIES.AND A GLOBAL CONFERENCE BEING CARRYED OUT BY BINARY RESEARCH

INSTT. WITH AN AIM TO SETTLED DOWN SUCH PROLONGED DISPUTES.LET'S WATCH WHAT IS

GOING TO HAPPEN. AS IT IS A SEVERE CRITICAL AREA AS FAR AS SID-TROP

HORO- ANALYSIS ISCONCERNED WORLDWIDE.

 

2) NOW SECONDLY I HAVE BEEN WATCHING VARIOUS POSTS OF DIFFERENT TEXT VERSATILES,

CAN SUCH ANALYSIS BE,PRACTICALLY  FIT  FOR THE  PRESENT TREND,.FOR EXAMPLE,

AS FAR AS, KARAKANSA IS CONCERNED ,WHICH METHOD YOU CAN FOLLOW .CAN YOU JUST GO

AHEAD AND SAY PARASARA IS WRONG AND JAIMINI IS CORRECT  OR VICEVERSA,WE JUST

CAN NOT DARE TO SAY AGAINST SUCH ANCIENT RISHIS.ONLY THING WE CAN DO CARRY OUT

DECADE LONG EXPERIMENTS AND TESTIFY THE METHODS OF BOTH THE RISHIS AND WHICH

EVER IS PROVED CORRECT WE HAVE TO APPLY IT. AND THAT CAN BE A NEW METHODS

DEVELOPED EVEN BY YOU,MR DHIRENDRANATH MISHRA OR SURESH BABU AG AND SAY MINE BUT

UNLESS IT IS SO ESTABLISHED WITH RESPECTIVE RESULTS,YOU CAN NOT DECLARE

INFORMATION UNLIKE ONE THAT MR MICHA FELNR'S  DEVELOPED THEORY IN FIANANCIAL

ASTROLOGY ETC.STILL YOU CAN NOT ACCEPT IT UNLESS YOU TESTED THE THEORY.. SO

UNDERTHIS CIRCUMSTANCES,IS IT ADVISABLE TO DETAIL MY INFO WHICH IS TESTIFIED BY

ME ONLY,YES IF POSSIBLE YOU CAN

REVEAL ALTHOSE THROUGH MY BOOK COMINGSOONT WHICH IS UNDER PIPELINE AS I AM YET

TO TESTFY MANY OTHER METHODS.

 

3) FURTHER REFER TO MR DHIRENDRANATH MISTRA'S COMMENT ON MY WISDOM VISIBLE ISSUE

I WD LIKE TO REQUEST MR MISHRA HAS HE EVERTRIED THE FUSION OF LG THEORY TO

BARAHMIHIRA'S RAYINGSTRENTH.THEN HE WILL COME TO KNOW WHAT REALLY THE WISDOME IS

...

 

4) FURTHER, MY WAY OF ANALYSIS YOU PPL HAVE NOT UNDERSTOOD THOUGH I HAVE PASSED

NEARLY COUPLE OF MONTHS IN BOARD ANDWHICH HAD BEEN ABLE TO FETCH BOTH OBN AND

OFF LINE CUSTOMER OF 100 NOS MORE SPECIFIC IN NATURE ALL OVER THE WORLD. MY

ANALYSI ARE NOT BEING REDOUT PROPERLY,IF YOU GO THROUGH IT YOU WILL DISCOVER

MULTY INVENTED APPROACH .IF YOU HAVE VISION MR MISHRA TRY TO UNRAVELL IT FROM MY

ANALYSIS WHICH IS NOW WORLD WIDE ACCEPTED ,YOU CAN DEFINATELY INVENT MULTY

INVENTED APPROACH,IF YOPU CAN NOT JOIN ME IN SOME OTHER FORUM OR THROUGH ANY

OTHER CONTACT OR IF I GET TIME I WILL EXPLAIN YOU WHICH CAN NOT BE CLARIFIED IN

THIS SMALL FORUM PARTICULARLY YOU ARE BUSY IN UPKEEPING THELITERALLY MEANING OF

GROUP JYOTHISH REMIDIES YOU PROVIDE REMIDIES TO REMIDY SEEKERS.

 

5) FINALLYI WD REQUEST MR.PRASHANT TO KEEP THE REQUEST OF MR DHIRENDRANATH

MISHRA AND JUST CONVEY ME THE INCONVENIENCEI WILL THEN AND THERE UNSUBSCRIBE SO

THAT YOU WILLBE ABLE TO KEEP SOUNDWISDOM PEOPLE LIKE DHIRENDRANATH MISHRA..

 

6) FURTHER, WE SHOULD ALL BEAR IN MIND THAT WE KNOW EACH OTHER THROUGH OUR

WRITING ONLY WHICH IS A MATTEROF GREAT SURPRISE BECAUSE PPL SEEING

EVENTHROUGHNAKED EYE COMMIT OFTEN MISTAKES TO KNOW THE PEOPLE.HOWEVER, I NEVER

DISCARD ANYBODY THEY ARE ALLKNOWN AND LEARNED PEOPLE INCLUDING MR

KRISHNAN,SURESH BABU,MR.MISHRA BUT IN DIFFERENTFIELDS ANDNO BODY IS PERFECT IN

THE UNIVERSE SINCE PARASHARA WAS CONDEMNED BY JAIMINI,ARYABHATTA WAS CRITICISED

BY BRAHMAGUPTA ETC. HERE WE ARE TOGATHER ONLY TO SHARE REMIDIES TO REMIDY SEEKER

AND IFWE GET SOMEFREE TIME TO DISCUSS WE CAN DISCUSS ALL IN DETAIL WHEN WE GET

TIME ANDDUE TO NON-COMMUNICATION OF METHOD FOR LACK OF TIME DOES NOT REALLY

RAISEA QUESTION MARK TO THE WISDOM OF ANY STRIVED /LEARNED PERSON.

 

WITH BEST WISHES,

P K TRIPATHY

 

 

 

________________________________

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

 

Wed, December 23, 2009 7:22:38 AM

Re: Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right

22/12

 

 

Santosh

 

a good post that states v clearly what i have been saying and what all

moderators do

 

except one or two self styled ppl who claim more than they deliver and by doing

it they r killing free speech, exchange of info, ideas

 

and as said many time the subjects in discussion here is too vast and India is v

rich in diversity many shades of views branches of knowlesge exist on any given

subject/stream we have to share witha open mind and if we find something too

uncommon, controversial surely majority members will do state their views v

clearly than allow it to pass un contosted as is happening now why call members

names

 

above all PKT himself never shares info, techniques with anyone inspite of

repeated requests for it escapes under some cover

 

so if he protests that we r shielding some ppl

WHICH I SAID MANYTIMES IS NOT TRUE BUT circumstantial to me not being active due

to my stay in the hospital

 

he has not seen the point in few mails already said on this

 

anyway thanks for ur post

 

hope he see thelight in it

 

..- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

 

____________ _________ _________ __

" santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com " <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

 

Tue, December 22, 2009 7:33:17 PM

Re: Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right

22/12

 

Dear respected sir,

The problem is you are missing a fundamental point. Moderator has no duty keep

clarifying things like a teacher does in a classroom.

He is an individual with other responsibilities in life too. He may choose to

moderate when he feels that members are using foul language or he may interfere

if an uncontrolled heated arguement is taking place.

He is not being paid any salary or honerarium by the group and hence we cannot

demand interference by him.

We are mature members and not kids in classroom for him to be present always

with us.

As far as delayed mail is concerned i have seen atlease 2 posts by the moderator

in general to all that he is not delaying it at his level. That is more than

enough.

Thanks and regards

Santhosh

 

Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

 

 

Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ >

Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:49:32

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Re: Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right

22/12

 

Dear Prashant,

If for the reason, I am not clarifying you the theories,you are not conveying

the messages to Mr.Mishra etc..then it is totally unfair because, I have already

told you,you yourself developed a forum,where, only remidies can be given to

remidy seeker, that's all and nothingelse. In doing so, I am overburdened with

such messages,I dont have even time to discuss all such matters in details that

is the reason, I have been very slow attender to other groups rather then yours

and few others of this content.I have already told you in past,if the matter of

discussion comes, we will discuss the theory in another forum sometime,when, I

will be free ion my research based other astro activity.So, for the reason, I

have only joined only few remidy seeker groups not any other group.

In the above circumstances, your non-communication of mails to Mishra,who

thought that I am sending the mails in a delated process, had it been promptly

reported to Mishra at that moment because it was a serious discussion,, Mishra

could have not charged me unnecessarily, and repeatedly, that I am sending the

mails in delated process,for no fault of mine. However, I am sending numerouse

messages daily and everything is promptly reported back why this partcular set

of msg.is not working.However, I am doing my thingsl as per the leterally

meaning of the group ie.Jyotish Remidies, but not Jyothish learning, and if you

still feel inconvenient please say me clearly so that I will quit the group that

time with a full clarification to all of my advise seekers happyly.But pl.do not

press me to sit on detailing all the issue as I have no time to do all such, as

I am busy writing books, editing, bringing it to in advanced studies etc.As

regards

Durgasaptasathi, I want you also advise the members like Mishra etc. to respond

in brief,to the point, querry based otherwise, Jyotish remidies will one day

automatically turn to Jyotish learning or vedic astrolgy etc.

 

With best wishes,

P K Tripathy.

 

____________ _________ _________ __

astro <gbp_kumar >

 

Tue, December 22, 2009 5:19:25 PM

Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12

 

Dear PKT, Misra ji, Members

 

a moderator/owners role is not to edit/judge ur mails or vouch for the

authenticity of any material that passes thru thegroup this members can decipher

themselves what is good, authentic, absurd stuff there r many such instances

 

I am not taking sides with anyone

 

from 15-21st been busy and more so 17-21st night my mother was in a hospital and

I was the attender there so left the group unmodeated so any msg that came

inbetween I have no idea if any msg has offended anyone of u, let me know can

read them and comment/act on them.

 

also from today u r also unmoderated member I normally kept this option for ppl

with 100 dags of untroublesome , controversial posting

 

in ur case U R POSTING UNSUBSTANTIATED OR UNEXPLAINED content and with enough

requests pending to this effect u come up with vague questions and all standard

 

did u live in a old diapliated house at ur birth time

on narrow side road, moved to a few more such houses and now r in a main road

and better house for almost all so no great logic, wisdom is VISIBLE here

 

and surely in this list u will find 50-70ppl with such scenario so no big deal.

 

if and when u can explain them it makes sense else it is just too much to even

consider it material worth reading

 

I am using thabove line after repeated requests to explain them has failed

 

u cud at least upload ur theory on a paper in the file section i said u failed

to do so so don't call others names

 

and on durga saptha sathi or any other pl post ur source of info rest ppl can

decide themselves, india is a vast country with vast knowldge pools so we must

share them OPENLY and try to find the transmission losses if any,m errors if any

and work on them than call oneanother scrap, rubbish or claim superiority on any

one.

 

prashant

 

, Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear PKGB/Dhrendranath Mishra,

>

> Mr PKGB, As I have sent all quick response to Dhirendra's querry but as you

have categorically written that due to your server problem, you could not post

my mails, then you should have convinced that to Mr. Mishra, as I am totally

write in communicating my resoponses quickly but knowingly though you

thatMr.Dhirendra is charging me I was delay in my response, you are silent, this

itself refklects as a grouporganiser, you are engaged in promoting wrong

description to innocent learners.

> Further, this is not first time, my mails are knowingly withhold particularly

when I catch one of your bunch's mistakes, also in previous time only such

category postings have been withhold.So, whenever any such trouble occures, you

should yourself clarify the people like Dhirendra, who without knowing anything

charging for my delayed responses,in which I have no fault and you have been

begged excuses to me for the non posting my mail due to your mistake.So whenevr

such things happens pl.clarify to the people, who charging unnecessarily,

otherwise, such practices will be reflected in through out the groups, because,

ore comments in any topic will be seriously reviewed as we people are known in

various groups reputedly..

>

> P.K.Tripathy.

>

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