Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Dear PKT, Misra ji, Members a moderator/owners role is not to edit/judge ur mails or vouch for the authenticity of any material that passes thru thegroup this members can decipher themselves what is good, authentic, absurd stuff there r many such instances I am not taking sides with anyone from 15-21st been busy and more so 17-21st night my mother was in a hospital and I was the attender there so left the group unmodeated so any msg that came inbetween I have no idea if any msg has offended anyone of u, let me know can read them and comment/act on them. also from today u r also unmoderated member I normally kept this option for ppl with 100 dags of untroublesome , controversial posting in ur case U R POSTING UNSUBSTANTIATED OR UNEXPLAINED content and with enough requests pending to this effect u come up with vague questions and all standard did u live in a old diapliated house at ur birth time on narrow side road, moved to a few more such houses and now r in a main road and better house for almost all so no great logic, wisdom is VISIBLE here and surely in this list u will find 50-70ppl with such scenario so no big deal. if and when u can explain them it makes sense else it is just too much to even consider it material worth reading I am using thabove line after repeated requests to explain them has failed u cud at least upload ur theory on a paper in the file section i said u failed to do so so don't call others names and on durga saptha sathi or any other pl post ur source of info rest ppl can decide themselves, india is a vast country with vast knowldge pools so we must share them OPENLY and try to find the transmission losses if any,m errors if any and work on them than call oneanother scrap, rubbish or claim superiority on any one. prashant , Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89 wrote: > > Dear PKGB/Dhrendranath Mishra, > > Mr PKGB, As I have sent all quick response to Dhirendra's querry but as you have categorically written that due to your server problem, you could not post my mails, then you should have convinced that to Mr. Mishra, as I am totally write in communicating my resoponses quickly but knowingly though you thatMr.Dhirendra is charging me I was delay in my response, you are silent, this itself refklects as a grouporganiser, you are engaged in promoting wrong description to innocent learners. > Further, this is not first time, my mails are knowingly withhold particularly when I catch one of your bunch's mistakes, also in previous time only such category postings have been withhold.So, whenever any such trouble occures, you should yourself clarify the people like Dhirendra, who without knowing anything charging for my delayed responses,in which I have no fault and you have been begged excuses to me for the non posting my mail due to your mistake.So whenevr such things happens pl.clarify to the people, who charging unnecessarily, otherwise, such practices will be reflected in through out the groups, because, ore comments in any topic will be seriously reviewed as we people are known in various groups reputedly.. > > P.K.Tripathy. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 BINGO! Thanks Mr. Santhosh :-) RR_, , santhosh wrote: > > Dear respected sir, > The problem is you are missing a fundamental point. Moderator has no duty keep clarifying things like a teacher does in a classroom. > He is an individual with other responsibilities in life too. He may choose to moderate when he feels that members are using foul language or he may interfere if an uncontrolled heated arguement is taking place. > He is not being paid any salary or honerarium by the group and hence we cannot demand interference by him. > We are mature members and not kids in classroom for him to be present always with us. > As far as delayed mail is concerned i have seen atlease 2 posts by the moderator in general to all that he is not delaying it at his level. That is more than enough. > Thanks and regards > Santhosh > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89 > Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:49:32 > > Re: Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12 > > Dear Prashant, > If for the reason, I am not clarifying you the theories,you are not conveying the messages to Mr.Mishra etc.then it is totally unfair because, I have already told you,you yourself developed a forum,where,only remidies can be given to remidy seeker, that's all and nothingelse. In doing so, I am overburdened with such messages,I dont have even time to discuss all such matters in details that is the reason, I have been very slow attender to other groups rather then yours and few others of this content.I have already told you in past,if the matter of discussion comes, we will discuss the theory in another forum sometime,when,I will be free ion my research based other astro activity.So,for the reason, I have only joined only few remidy seeker groups not any other group. > In the above circumstances, your non-communication of mails to Mishra,who thought that I am sending the mails in a delated process, had it  been promptly reported to Mishra at that moment because it was a serious discussion,,Mishra could have not charged me unnecessarily,and repeatedly, that I am sending the mails in delated process,for no fault of mine. However, I am sending numerouse messages daily and everything is promptly reported back why this partcular set of msg.is not working.However, I am doing my thingsl as per the leterally meaning of the group ie.Jyotish Remidies, but not Jyothish learning, and if you still feel inconvenient please say me clearly so that I will quit the group that time with a full clarification to all of my advise seekers happyly.But pl.do not press me to sit on detailing all the issue as I have no time to do all such, as I am busy writing books, editing, bringing it to in advanced studies etc.As regards > Durgasaptasathi, I want you also advise the members like Mishra etc. to respond in brief,to the point, querry based otherwise, Jyotish remidies will one day automatically turn to Jyotish learning or vedic astrolgy etc. > > With best wishes, > P K Tripathy. > > > > ________________________________ > astro <gbp_kumar > > Tue, December 22, 2009 5:19:25 PM > Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12 > >  > Dear PKT, Misra ji, Members > > a moderator/owners role is not to edit/judge ur mails or vouch for the authenticity of any material that passes thru thegroup this members can decipher themselves what is good, authentic, absurd stuff there r many such instances > > I am not taking sides with anyone > > from 15-21st been busy and more so 17-21st night my mother was in a hospital and I was the attender there so left the group unmodeated so any msg that came inbetween I have no idea if any msg has offended anyone of u, let me know can read them and comment/act on them. > > also from today u r also unmoderated member I normally kept this option for ppl with 100 dags of untroublesome , controversial posting > > in ur case U R POSTING UNSUBSTANTIATED OR UNEXPLAINED content and with enough requests pending to this effect u come up with vague questions and all standard > > did u live in a old diapliated house at ur birth time > on narrow side road, moved to a few more such houses and now r in a main road and better house for almost all so no great logic, wisdom is VISIBLE here > > and surely in this list u will find 50-70ppl with such scenario so no big deal. > > if and when u can explain them it makes sense else it is just too much to even consider it material worth reading > > I am using thabove line after repeated requests to explain them has failed > > u cud at least upload ur theory on a paper in the file section i said u failed to do so so don't call others names > > and on durga saptha sathi or any other pl post ur source of info rest ppl can decide themselves, india is a vast country with vast knowldge pools so we must share them OPENLY and try to find the transmission losses if any,m errors if any and work on them than call oneanother scrap, rubbish or claim superiority on any one. > > prashant > > , Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear PKGB/Dhrendranath Mishra, > > > > Mr PKGB, As I have sent all quick response to Dhirendra's querry but as you have categorically written that due to your server problem, you could not post my mails, then you should have convinced that to Mr. Mishra, as I am totally write in communicating my resoponses quickly but knowingly though you thatMr.Dhirendra is charging me I was delay in my response, you are silent, this itself refklects as a grouporganiser, you are engaged in promoting wrong description to innocent learners. > > Further, this is not first time, my mails are knowingly withhold particularly when I catch one of your bunch's mistakes, also in previous time only such category postings have been withhold.So, whenever any such trouble occures, you should yourself clarify the people like Dhirendra, who without knowing anything charging for my delayed responses,in which I have no fault and you have been begged excuses to me for the non posting my mail due to your mistake.So whenevr such things happens pl.clarify to the people, who charging unnecessarily, otherwise, such practices will be reflected in through out the groups, because, ore comments in any topic will be seriously reviewed as we people are known in various groups reputedly.. > > > > P.K.Tripathy. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Dear Kumar_ji, Please, never again feel it necessary to justify or explain how you moderate or what you do or what you are supposed to do! I have observed many of the individuals on the Jyotish scene and while each have their individual strengths and weaknesses and flavours, every single one is IMPORTANT and VITAL and ESSENTIAL to Jyotish on Internet! I realize that I am a peanut-gallery person and so some of the 'players' get angry and upset with me, but that is okay! Speaking for myself, I have over the years seen you devote your personal time and effort and energy, despite exigences in family or at work etc -- and mostly in a rather admirable way! In return, perhaps you may feel that you have not received anything back in terms of kindness or appreciation but that is not true! Your situation, if I may be so bold -- is of a person who has worked hard and is now trying to listen to the favourite music station for relaxation, for the work is not done and there is a tomorrow with its problems and what not! But just as the music got tuned in to, the skid-row outside became active and created the noise that sometimes drowns the music! Perhaps it is because those that are fighting out on the street are known to you and you feel compelled to intervene! The fault is yours! :-) As a moderator, you were given the right to close the window and 'ground' the trouble-makers! Democracy is not at stake because it has been defined by an earlier American President as: Democracy allows one to stretch their arms, fingers, fist AS FAR AS THEY WISH, but JUST SHORT OF WHERE MY NOSE BEGINS! The RIGHT to ANNONYMITY GRANTED BY INTERNET was not supposed to give one any special powers BUT remind one of their human responsibilities! It is sad that many abuse it, but do they really think NO ONE IS WATCHING OR RECORDING? Rohiniranjan , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Santosh > > a good post that states v clearly what i have been saying and what all moderators do > > except one or two self styled ppl who claim more than they deliver and by doing it they r killing free speech, exchange of info, ideas > > and as said many time the subjects in discussion here is too vast and India is v rich in diversity many shades of views branches of knowlesge exist on any given subject/stream we have to share witha open mind and if we find something too uncommon, controversial surely majority members will do state their views v clearly than allow it to pass un contosted as is happening now why call members names > > above all PKT himself never shares info, techniques with anyone inspite of repeated requests for it escapes under some cover > > so if he protests that we r shielding some ppl > WHICH I SAID MANYTIMES IS NOT TRUE BUT circumstantial to me not being active due to my stay in the hospital > > he has not seen the point in few mails already said on this > > anyway thanks for ur post > > > hope he see thelight in it > > > .- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 > > > > > > ________________________________ > " santhosh " <santhosh > > Tue, December 22, 2009 7:33:17 PM > Re: Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12 > > > Dear respected sir, > The problem is you are missing a fundamental point. Moderator has no duty keep clarifying things like a teacher does in a classroom. > He is an individual with other responsibilities in life too. He may choose to moderate when he feels that members are using foul language or he may interfere if an uncontrolled heated arguement is taking place. > He is not being paid any salary or honerarium by the group and hence we cannot demand interference by him. > We are mature members and not kids in classroom for him to be present always with us. > As far as delayed mail is concerned i have seen atlease 2 posts by the moderator in general to all that he is not delaying it at his level. That is more than enough. > Thanks and regards > Santhosh > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ > > Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:49:32 > <> > Re: Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12 > > Dear Prashant, > If for the reason, I am not clarifying you the theories,you are not conveying the messages to Mr.Mishra etc.then it is totally unfair because, I have already told you,you yourself developed a forum,where, only remidies can be given to remidy seeker, that's all and nothingelse. In doing so, I am overburdened with such messages,I dont have even time to discuss all such matters in details that is the reason, I have been very slow attender to other groups rather then yours and few others of this content.I have already told you in past,if the matter of discussion comes, we will discuss the theory in another forum sometime,when, I will be free ion my research based other astro activity.So, for the reason, I have only joined only few remidy seeker groups not any other group. > In the above circumstances, your non-communication of mails to Mishra,who thought that I am sending the mails in a delated process, had it been promptly reported to Mishra at that moment because it was a serious discussion,, Mishra could have not charged me unnecessarily, and repeatedly, that I am sending the mails in delated process,for no fault of mine. However, I am sending numerouse messages daily and everything is promptly reported back why this partcular set of msg.is not working.However, I am doing my thingsl as per the leterally meaning of the group ie.Jyotish Remidies, but not Jyothish learning, and if you still feel inconvenient please say me clearly so that I will quit the group that time with a full clarification to all of my advise seekers happyly.But pl.do not press me to sit on detailing all the issue as I have no time to do all such, as I am busy writing books, editing, bringing it to in advanced studies etc.As regards > Durgasaptasathi, I want you also advise the members like Mishra etc. to respond in brief,to the point, querry based otherwise, Jyotish remidies will one day automatically turn to Jyotish learning or vedic astrolgy etc. > > With best wishes, > P K Tripathy. > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > astro <gbp_kumar > > > Tue, December 22, 2009 5:19:25 PM > Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12 > > > Dear PKT, Misra ji, Members > > a moderator/owners role is not to edit/judge ur mails or vouch for the authenticity of any material that passes thru thegroup this members can decipher themselves what is good, authentic, absurd stuff there r many such instances > > I am not taking sides with anyone > > from 15-21st been busy and more so 17-21st night my mother was in a hospital and I was the attender there so left the group unmodeated so any msg that came inbetween I have no idea if any msg has offended anyone of u, let me know can read them and comment/act on them. > > also from today u r also unmoderated member I normally kept this option for ppl with 100 dags of untroublesome , controversial posting > > in ur case U R POSTING UNSUBSTANTIATED OR UNEXPLAINED content and with enough requests pending to this effect u come up with vague questions and all standard > > did u live in a old diapliated house at ur birth time > on narrow side road, moved to a few more such houses and now r in a main road and better house for almost all so no great logic, wisdom is VISIBLE here > > and surely in this list u will find 50-70ppl with such scenario so no big deal. > > if and when u can explain them it makes sense else it is just too much to even consider it material worth reading > > I am using thabove line after repeated requests to explain them has failed > > u cud at least upload ur theory on a paper in the file section i said u failed to do so so don't call others names > > and on durga saptha sathi or any other pl post ur source of info rest ppl can decide themselves, india is a vast country with vast knowldge pools so we must share them OPENLY and try to find the transmission losses if any,m errors if any and work on them than call oneanother scrap, rubbish or claim superiority on any one. > > prashant > > , Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear PKGB/Dhrendranath Mishra, > > > > Mr PKGB, As I have sent all quick response to Dhirendra's querry but as you have categorically written that due to your server problem, you could not post my mails, then you should have convinced that to Mr. Mishra, as I am totally write in communicating my resoponses quickly but knowingly though you thatMr.Dhirendra is charging me I was delay in my response, you are silent, this itself refklects as a grouporganiser, you are engaged in promoting wrong description to innocent learners. > > Further, this is not first time, my mails are knowingly withhold particularly when I catch one of your bunch's mistakes, also in previous time only such category postings have been withhold.So, whenever any such trouble occures, you should yourself clarify the people like Dhirendra, who without knowing anything charging for my delayed responses,in which I have no fault and you have been begged excuses to me for the non posting my mail due to your mistake.So whenevr such things happens pl.clarify to the people, who charging unnecessarily, otherwise, such practices will be reflected in through out the groups, because, ore comments in any topic will be seriously reviewed as we people are known in various groups reputedly.. > > > > P.K.Tripathy. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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