Krishnan ji == Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12

[Guest guest]

Krishnan ji,

 

You are a serious student (and practitioner) of astrology, you will not like it

in the 'peanut gallery' This is where the naughty " udhami " and not the 'udhyami'

boys collect, and throw moongphali ka chilka and paper airplanes and

chalk-pieces at assorted targets, including sometimes at the teachers: ancient

and modern! ;-)

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

> I think the following sums up different roles of members who have interest in

the group as contributors,genuine seekers to solve problems of themselves and

share concern in others.

> Moderator,contributes for the harmonious relationships and occassion to over

see that the group's objects are getting promoted with  investment of his

wisdom but not his involvment on day today basis as a referee in kabaddi or in

kho kho(favourite Indian games)

> Shri Promod Ji has devoted his his time for the sake of group's development

and bringing the views of senior people and maintain harmony.He laboured very

much to explain and convince w/o interfering in their freedom of  expression.He

has contributed lot for the members to voice and share their knowledge.where

ever motives of members seems to inflict the health of the group,he interjected

to contain the back ground noise.

> with the following suggestions of Shri RRji and Santosh Ji,for the group

defining the roles iam sure v do not have future occassions to judge who's doing

what?is it right or wrong?

> Santosh Ji,you r absolutely right " We are mature members and not kids in

classroom for him to be present always with us " .

>

> Shri Rohini ji words " Democracy allows one to stretch their arms, fingers, fist

AS FAR AS THEY WISH, but JUST SHORT OF WHERE MY NOSE BEGINS! " are always

supportive to achieve a purpose in cyber net media.The opinion on " cyber

jyotish " is a positive reinforcement and need certainly to be born in mind in

interactions. 

>

>

> Ps:Dada, it is interesting to note about " peanut gallery " and the joy I feel

in joining with him in this reserved? section.Iam sure it is not the label but

to enjoy warmer 'walnuts " and " cashew nuts "

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Tue, 12/22/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

> Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12

>

> Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 10:20 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Dear Kumar_ji,

>

> Please, never again feel it necessary to justify or explain how you moderate

or what you do or what you are supposed to do! I have observed many of the

individuals on the Jyotish scene and while each have their individual strengths

and weaknesses and flavours, every single one is IMPORTANT and VITAL and

ESSENTIAL to Jyotish on Internet!

>

> I realize that I am a peanut-gallery person and so some of the 'players' get

angry and upset with me, but that is okay!

>

> Speaking for myself, I have over the years seen you devote your personal time

and effort and energy, despite exigences in family or at work etc -- and mostly

in a rather admirable way!

>

> In return, perhaps you may feel that you have not received anything back in

terms of kindness or appreciation but that is not true! Your situation, if I may

be so bold -- is of a person who has worked hard and is now trying to listen to

the favourite music station for relaxation, for the work is not done and there

is a tomorrow with its problems and what not!

>

> But just as the music got tuned in to, the skid-row outside became active and

created the noise that sometimes drowns the music! Perhaps it is because those

that are fighting out on the street are known to you and you feel compelled to

intervene!

>

> The fault is yours! :-)

>

> As a moderator, you were given the right to close the window and 'ground' the

trouble-makers! Democracy is not at stake because it has been defined by an

earlier American President as:

>

> Democracy allows one to stretch their arms, fingers, fist AS FAR AS THEY WISH,

but JUST SHORT OF WHERE MY NOSE BEGINS!

>

> The RIGHT to ANNONYMITY GRANTED BY INTERNET was not supposed to give one any

special powers BUT remind one of their human responsibilities!

>

> It is sad that many abuse it, but do they really think NO ONE IS WATCHING OR

RECORDING?

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > Santosh

> >

> > a good post that states v clearly what i have been saying and what all

moderators do

> >

> > except one or two self styled ppl who claim more than they deliver and by

doing it they r killing free speech, exchange of info, ideas

> >

> > and as said many time the subjects in discussion here is too vast and India

is v rich in diversity many shades of views branches of knowlesge exist on any

given subject/stream we have to share witha open mind and if we find something

too uncommon, controversial surely majority members will do state their views v

clearly than allow it to pass un contosted as is happening now why call members

names

> >

> > above all PKT himself never shares info, techniques with anyone inspite of

repeated requests for it escapes under some cover

> >

> > so if he protests that we r shielding some ppl

> > WHICH I SAID MANYTIMES IS NOT TRUE BUT circumstantial to me not being active

due to my stay in the hospital

> >

> > he has not seen the point in few mails already said on this

> >

> > anyway thanks for ur post

> >

> >

> > hope he see thelight in it

> >

> >

> > .- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > " santhosh@ . " <santhosh@ .>

> >

> > Tue, December 22, 2009 7:33:17 PM

> > Re: Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right

22/12

> >

> >

> > Dear respected sir,

> > The problem is you are missing a fundamental point. Moderator has no duty

keep clarifying things like a teacher does in a classroom.

> > He is an individual with other responsibilities in life too. He may choose

to moderate when he feels that members are using foul language or he may

interfere if an uncontrolled heated arguement is taking place.

> > He is not being paid any salary or honerarium by the group and hence we

cannot demand interference by him.

> > We are mature members and not kids in classroom for him to be present always

with us.

> > As far as delayed mail is concerned i have seen atlease 2 posts by the

moderator in general to all that he is not delaying it at his level. That is

more than enough.

> > Thanks and regards

> > Santhosh

> >

> > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

> >

> >

> > Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ >

> > Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:49:32

> > <>

> > Re: Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right

22/12

> >

> > Dear Prashant,

> > If for the reason, I am not clarifying you the theories,you are not

conveying the messages to Mr.Mishra etc.then it is totally unfair because, I

have already told you,you yourself developed a forum,where, only remidies can be

given to remidy seeker, that's all and nothingelse. In doing so, I am

overburdened with such messages,I dont have even time to discuss all such

matters in details that is the reason, I have been very slow attender to other

groups rather then yours and few others of this content.I have already told you

in past,if the matter of discussion comes, we will discuss the theory in another

forum sometime,when, I will be free ion my research based other astro

activity.So, for the reason, I have only joined only few remidy seeker groups

not any other group.

> > In the above circumstances, your non-communication of mails to Mishra,who

thought that I am sending the mails in a delated process, had it been promptly

reported to Mishra at that moment because it was a serious discussion,, Mishra

could have not charged me unnecessarily, and repeatedly, that I am sending the

mails in delated process,for no fault of mine. However, I am sending numerouse

messages daily and everything is promptly reported back why this partcular set

of msg.is not working.However, I am doing my thingsl as per the leterally

meaning of the group ie.Jyotish Remidies, but not Jyothish learning, and if you

still feel inconvenient please say me clearly so that I will quit the group that

time with a full clarification to all of my advise seekers happyly.But pl.do not

press me to sit on detailing all the issue as I have no time to do all such, as

I am busy writing books, editing, bringing it to in advanced studies etc.As

regards

> > Durgasaptasathi, I want you also advise the members like Mishra etc. to

respond in brief,to the point, querry based otherwise, Jyotish remidies will one

day automatically turn to Jyotish learning or vedic astrolgy etc.

> >

> > With best wishes,

> > P K Tripathy.

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > astro <gbp_kumar >

> >

> > Tue, December 22, 2009 5:19:25 PM

> > Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right

22/12

> >

> >

> > Dear PKT, Misra ji, Members

> >

> > a moderator/owners role is not to edit/judge ur mails or vouch for the

authenticity of any material that passes thru thegroup this members can decipher

themselves what is good, authentic, absurd stuff there r many such instances

> >

> > I am not taking sides with anyone

> >

> > from 15-21st been busy and more so 17-21st night my mother was in a hospital

and I was the attender there so left the group unmodeated so any msg that came

inbetween I have no idea if any msg has offended anyone of u, let me know can

read them and comment/act on them.

> >

> > also from today u r also unmoderated member I normally kept this option for

ppl with 100 dags of untroublesome , controversial posting

> >

> > in ur case U R POSTING UNSUBSTANTIATED OR UNEXPLAINED content and with

enough requests pending to this effect u come up with vague questions and all

standard

> >

> > did u live in a old diapliated house at ur birth time

> > on narrow side road, moved to a few more such houses and now r in a main

road and better house for almost all so no great logic, wisdom is VISIBLE here

> >

> > and surely in this list u will find 50-70ppl with such scenario so no big

deal.

> >

> > if and when u can explain them it makes sense else it is just too much to

even consider it material worth reading

> >

> > I am using thabove line after repeated requests to explain them has failed

> >

> > u cud at least upload ur theory on a paper in the file section i said u

failed to do so so don't call others names

> >

> > and on durga saptha sathi or any other pl post ur source of info rest ppl

can decide themselves, india is a vast country with vast knowldge pools so we

must share them OPENLY and try to find the transmission losses if any,m errors

if any and work on them than call oneanother scrap, rubbish or claim superiority

on any one.

> >

> > prashant

> >

> > , Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear PKGB/Dhrendranath Mishra,

> > >

> > > Mr PKGB, As I have sent all quick response to Dhirendra's querry but as

you have categorically written that due to your server problem, you could not

post my mails, then you should have convinced that to Mr. Mishra, as I am

totally write in communicating my resoponses quickly but knowingly though you

thatMr.Dhirendra is charging me I was delay in my response, you are silent, this

itself refklects as a grouporganiser, you are engaged in promoting wrong

description to innocent learners.

> > > Further, this is not first time, my mails are knowingly withhold

particularly when I catch one of your bunch's mistakes, also in previous time

only such category postings have been withhold.So, whenever any such trouble

occures, you should yourself clarify the people like Dhirendra, who without

knowing anything charging for my delayed responses,in which I have no fault and

you have been begged excuses to me for the non posting my mail due to your

mistake.So whenevr such things happens pl.clarify to the people, who charging

unnecessarily, otherwise, such practices will be reflected in through out the

groups, because, ore comments in any topic will be seriously reviewed as we

people are known in various groups reputedly..

> > >

> > > P.K.Tripathy.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Rohini Ji,

yeah Ji!You are on dot 2 predict about me.

Once I tried 2 b prankish in the school and thought I will  join gallery.My

class teacher has different ideas.She punished me by making me 2 sit with a girl

very plump girl.As the age was to feel shy I could n't lift my head.Missed

peanuts and all other paper planes.True I was not a successful prankster.i had

however my own quota of enjoyment though of serious nature.

I have interest still for peanuts !

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Wed, 12/23/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

Krishnan ji ==> Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath

Mishra-not right 22/12

 

Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 7:04 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Krishnan ji,

 

You are a serious student (and practitioner) of astrology, you will not like it

in the 'peanut gallery' This is where the naughty " udhami " and not the 'udhyami'

boys collect, and throw moongphali ka chilka and paper airplanes and

chalk-pieces at assorted targets, including sometimes at the teachers: ancient

and modern! ;-)

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

> I think the following sums up different roles of members who have interest in

the group as contributors, genuine seekers to solve problems of themselves and

share concern in others.

> Moderator,contribut es for the harmonious relationships and occassion to over

see that the group's objects are getting promoted with  investment of his

wisdom but not his involvment on day today basis as a referee in kabaddi or in

kho kho(favourite Indian games)

> Shri Promod Ji has devoted his his time for the sake of group's development

and bringing the views of senior people and maintain harmony.He laboured very

much to explain and convince w/o interfering in their freedom of 

expression.He has contributed lot for the members to voice and share their

knowledge.where ever motives of members seems to inflict the health of the

group,he interjected to contain the back ground noise.

> with the following suggestions of Shri RRji and Santosh Ji,for the group

defining the roles iam sure v do not have future occassions to judge who's doing

what?is it right or wrong?

> Santosh Ji,you r absolutely right " We are mature members and not kids in

classroom for him to be present always with us " .

>

> Shri Rohini ji words " Democracy allows one to stretch their arms, fingers, fist

AS FAR AS THEY WISH, but JUST SHORT OF WHERE MY NOSE BEGINS! " are always

supportive to achieve a purpose in cyber net media.The opinion on " cyber

jyotish " is a positive reinforcement and need certainly to be born in mind in

interactions. 

>

>

> Ps:Dada, it is interesting to note about " peanut gallery " and the joy I feel

in joining with him in this reserved? section.Iam sure it is not the label but

to enjoy warmer 'walnuts " and " cashew nuts "

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Tue, 12/22/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12

>

> Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 10:20 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Dear Kumar_ji,

>

> Please, never again feel it necessary to justify or explain how you moderate

or what you do or what you are supposed to do! I have observed many of the

individuals on the Jyotish scene and while each have their individual strengths

and weaknesses and flavours, every single one is IMPORTANT and VITAL and

ESSENTIAL to Jyotish on Internet!

>

> I realize that I am a peanut-gallery person and so some of the 'players' get

angry and upset with me, but that is okay!

>

> Speaking for myself, I have over the years seen you devote your personal time

and effort and energy, despite exigences in family or at work etc -- and mostly

in a rather admirable way!

>

> In return, perhaps you may feel that you have not received anything back in

terms of kindness or appreciation but that is not true! Your situation, if I may

be so bold -- is of a person who has worked hard and is now trying to listen to

the favourite music station for relaxation, for the work is not done and there

is a tomorrow with its problems and what not!

>

> But just as the music got tuned in to, the skid-row outside became active and

created the noise that sometimes drowns the music! Perhaps it is because those

that are fighting out on the street are known to you and you feel compelled to

intervene!

>

> The fault is yours! :-)

>

> As a moderator, you were given the right to close the window and 'ground' the

trouble-makers! Democracy is not at stake because it has been defined by an

earlier American President as:

>

> Democracy allows one to stretch their arms, fingers, fist AS FAR AS THEY WISH,

but JUST SHORT OF WHERE MY NOSE BEGINS!

>

> The RIGHT to ANNONYMITY GRANTED BY INTERNET was not supposed to give one any

special powers BUT remind one of their human responsibilities!

>

> It is sad that many abuse it, but do they really think NO ONE IS WATCHING OR

RECORDING?

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > Santosh

> >

> > a good post that states v clearly what i have been saying and what all

moderators do

> >

> > except one or two self styled ppl who claim more than they deliver and by

doing it they r killing free speech, exchange of info, ideas

> >

> > and as said many time the subjects in discussion here is too vast and India

is v rich in diversity many shades of views branches of knowlesge exist on any

given subject/stream we have to share witha open mind and if we find something

too uncommon, controversial surely majority members will do state their views v

clearly than allow it to pass un contosted as is happening now why call members

names

> >

> > above all PKT himself never shares info, techniques with anyone inspite of

repeated requests for it escapes under some cover

> >

> > so if he protests that we r shielding some ppl

> > WHICH I SAID MANYTIMES IS NOT TRUE BUT circumstantial to me not being active

due to my stay in the hospital

> >

> > he has not seen the point in few mails already said on this

> >

> > anyway thanks for ur post

> >

> >

> > hope he see thelight in it

> >

> >

> > .- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > " santhosh@ . " <santhosh@ .>

> >

> > Tue, December 22, 2009 7:33:17 PM

> > Re: Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right

22/12

> >

> >

> > Dear respected sir,

> > The problem is you are missing a fundamental point. Moderator has no duty

keep clarifying things like a teacher does in a classroom.

> > He is an individual with other responsibilities in life too. He may choose

to moderate when he feels that members are using foul language or he may

interfere if an uncontrolled heated arguement is taking place.

> > He is not being paid any salary or honerarium by the group and hence we

cannot demand interference by him.

> > We are mature members and not kids in classroom for him to be present always

with us.

> > As far as delayed mail is concerned i have seen atlease 2 posts by the

moderator in general to all that he is not delaying it at his level. That is

more than enough.

> > Thanks and regards

> > Santhosh

> >

> > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

> >

> >

> > Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ >

> > Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:49:32

> > <>

> > Re: Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right

22/12

> >

> > Dear Prashant,

> > If for the reason, I am not clarifying you the theories,you are not

conveying the messages to Mr.Mishra etc.then it is totally unfair because, I

have already told you,you yourself developed a forum,where, only remidies can be

given to remidy seeker, that's all and nothingelse. In doing so, I am

overburdened with such messages,I dont have even time to discuss all such

matters in details that is the reason, I have been very slow attender to other

groups rather then yours and few others of this content.I have already told you

in past,if the matter of discussion comes, we will discuss the theory in another

forum sometime,when, I will be free ion my research based other astro

activity.So, for the reason, I have only joined only few remidy seeker groups

not any other group.

> > In the above circumstances, your non-communication of mails to Mishra,who

thought that I am sending the mails in a delated process, had it been promptly

reported to Mishra at that moment because it was a serious discussion,, Mishra

could have not charged me unnecessarily, and repeatedly, that I am sending the

mails in delated process,for no fault of mine. However, I am sending numerouse

messages daily and everything is promptly reported back why this partcular set

of msg.is not working.However, I am doing my thingsl as per the leterally

meaning of the group ie.Jyotish Remidies, but not Jyothish learning, and if you

still feel inconvenient please say me clearly so that I will quit the group that

time with a full clarification to all of my advise seekers happyly.But pl.do not

press me to sit on detailing all the issue as I have no time to do all such, as

I am busy writing books, editing, bringing it to in advanced studies etc.As

regards

> > Durgasaptasathi, I want you also advise the members like Mishra etc. to

respond in brief,to the point, querry based otherwise, Jyotish remidies will one

day automatically turn to Jyotish learning or vedic astrolgy etc.

> >

> > With best wishes,

> > P K Tripathy.

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > astro <gbp_kumar >

> >

> > Tue, December 22, 2009 5:19:25 PM

> > Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right

22/12

> >

> >

> > Dear PKT, Misra ji, Members

> >

> > a moderator/owners role is not to edit/judge ur mails or vouch for the

authenticity of any material that passes thru thegroup this members can decipher

themselves what is good, authentic, absurd stuff there r many such instances

> >

> > I am not taking sides with anyone

> >

> > from 15-21st been busy and more so 17-21st night my mother was in a hospital

and I was the attender there so left the group unmodeated so any msg that came

inbetween I have no idea if any msg has offended anyone of u, let me know can

read them and comment/act on them.

> >

> > also from today u r also unmoderated member I normally kept this option for

ppl with 100 dags of untroublesome , controversial posting

> >

> > in ur case U R POSTING UNSUBSTANTIATED OR UNEXPLAINED content and with

enough requests pending to this effect u come up with vague questions and all

standard

> >

> > did u live in a old diapliated house at ur birth time

> > on narrow side road, moved to a few more such houses and now r in a main

road and better house for almost all so no great logic, wisdom is VISIBLE here

> >

> > and surely in this list u will find 50-70ppl with such scenario so no big

deal.

> >

> > if and when u can explain them it makes sense else it is just too much to

even consider it material worth reading

> >

> > I am using thabove line after repeated requests to explain them has failed

> >

> > u cud at least upload ur theory on a paper in the file section i said u

failed to do so so don't call others names

> >

> > and on durga saptha sathi or any other pl post ur source of info rest ppl

can decide themselves, india is a vast country with vast knowldge pools so we

must share them OPENLY and try to find the transmission losses if any,m errors

if any and work on them than call oneanother scrap, rubbish or claim superiority

on any one.

> >

> > prashant

> >

> > , Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ....>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear PKGB/Dhrendranath Mishra,

> > >

> > > Mr PKGB, As I have sent all quick response to Dhirendra's querry but as

you have categorically written that due to your server problem, you could not

post my mails, then you should have convinced that to Mr. Mishra, as I am

totally write in communicating my resoponses quickly but knowingly though you

thatMr.Dhirendra is charging me I was delay in my response, you are silent, this

itself refklects as a grouporganiser, you are engaged in promoting wrong

description to innocent learners.

> > > Further, this is not first time, my mails are knowingly withhold

particularly when I catch one of your bunch's mistakes, also in previous time

only such category postings have been withhold.So, whenever any such trouble

occures, you should yourself clarify the people like Dhirendra, who without

knowing anything charging for my delayed responses,in which I have no fault and

you have been begged excuses to me for the non posting my mail due to your

mistake.So whenevr such things happens pl.clarify to the people, who charging

unnecessarily, otherwise, such practices will be reflected in through out the

groups, because, ore comments in any topic will be seriously reviewed as we

people are known in various groups reputedly..

> > >

> > > P.K.Tripathy.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >