Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Hello Mr. Phulvani Thanks for birthday greetings. We do not consider Pratyantar Dasa in SA. Best wishes. - " teekamphulvani " <teekamphulvani Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:40 AM Re: Does we consider Pratyantar Dasa in SA Dear Guruji, I wish you a very Happy Birthday and wish for the best of health and happiness. and thanks for your wishes. we always need your blessing. Thanks. Teekam , <siha wrote: > > > Hello Teekam, > > Congratulations for engagement and best wishes for marriage ceremony. Keep > on doing the propitiatory remedies. The marriage is coming up due to astral > remedies and not because of the pratyantar dasa. > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > - > " teekamphulvani " <teekamphulvani > > Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:31 AM > Does we consider Pratyantar Dasa in SA > > > Hello Professor, > > First of all i wish to thank you for developing kavach concept. > my parents were searching for my life partner from last one year. > after wearing kavach within a month we got a good match.my engagement > was on 17 aug. and marriage is fixed on 26th of Nov. it is just like > " chat magani pat byaha " . > in my chart sun has exact aspect on 7th house. my engagement was in > Pratyantar of Sun.and marriage will be in Pratyantar of Moon as Moon > is the primary significant for marriage in case of sagitarrius Asc. > can we consider Pratyantar in this case. > > Thanks, > Teekam > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 // it is clear that Bhagya has got its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations. The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes kundan. Please take care of your Karma. // Beautiful Post. Pl send above to all Forums. People should realise that " Karma " is " Pradhan " . Nothing can substitute that. Without " Karma " all " Yogas " are defunct. Marriage written for native, but if he does not sit for saath pheras, how can the marriage be performed ? Children written in destniy, but if native does not conjugate , then how children will come ? Just as in these cases God did not come down to do all this, neither " Bhagya " , because " Bhagya " is not a physical living entity, but it is just a " Promise " which can only be met with appropriate corresponding " Karma " . Sam way all great Gajkesari Yogas, Dhana Yogas, Panch mahapurusha Yogas, Rajyogas, etcetra, stand to nought if a native sits doing nothing, but just spending his time leisurely eating free food given by Parents, Uncle,or else waiting for destiny to arrive. Your post was a lovely treat to read. Good. regards, Bhaskar. , " S.C. Kursija " <sckursija wrote: > > Dera members, > To day, October 12, 2007 is the beginning of Durga > Puja. The Navaratri begins. She is Maha-Shakti or > Supreme Energy. She manifests chiefly in three forms: > Maha-Saraswati, Maha-Lakshmi and Maha-Kali: Creation, > Conservation and Annihilation, i.e. Birth, Sustenance > and Death, the three faces of life. By worshiping > Durga, we worship the cycle of life. In Durga > Saptshati, the Maha-Shakti has been worshiped as " O > Mother Durga, you remove all fear of those who > remember you in trouble. You bestow all your wisdom, > compassion in your heart to those who remember you in > their happiness. You are the dispeller of poverty, > pain and fear. " > May Mother Durga bless you and remove your poverty, > pain and fear. She may grant you knowledge, wealth and > happiness. > > According to my little knowledge, the energy > represents activities, the Karma. Our sages have made > 10th house, Karma, as the most powerful Kendra among > the Kendra. The 9th house, Bhagya, is 12th to 10th, > Karma, the negation of Karma. If the lords of 10th and > 9th combined in auspicious house they produce most > powerful Raja-Yoga But it is clear that Bhagya has got > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations. > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. > Mother Durga may guide you through the cycle of life > and bless you. > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Bhaskar ji, S.C. Kursija and others Namaskar Excellent Excellent Sir, You are at the right point. Planets and stars effect our mind (Maan)by some force. Moon represent our mind. Planets create fear,terror, hesitation, attraction and many others feelings. they press us to do wrong deeds by affecting our mind. Planets create affection and hatred in the mind for others and accordingly we treat them. Planets gives us new ideas in our mind and accordingly we do work. BY MIND WE DO KARMA Now Bhagya is decided by the planets.These planets effect our mind and with this affected mind we do the Karma. Then how BHAGYA AND KARMA ARE DIFFERENT. Please clarify Through some light on this point. Iam confussed. Thanks Dhananjay Gupta. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > // it is clear that Bhagya has got > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations. > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. // > > Beautiful Post. > Pl send above to all Forums. People should realise > that " Karma " is " Pradhan " . Nothing can > substitute that. Without " Karma " all " Yogas " are > defunct. Marriage written for native, but if he > does not sit for saath pheras, how can the > marriage be performed ? Children written in > destniy, but if native does not conjugate , then > how children will come ? Just as in these cases > God did not come down to do all this, neither > " Bhagya " , because " Bhagya " is not a physical living > entity, but it is just a " Promise " which can only be > met with appropriate corresponding " Karma " . > Sam way all great Gajkesari Yogas, Dhana Yogas, > Panch mahapurusha Yogas, Rajyogas, > etcetra, stand to nought > if a native sits doing nothing, but just spending > his time leisurely eating free food given by Parents, > Uncle,or else waiting for destiny to arrive. > > Your post was a lovely treat to read. > > Good. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > , " S.C. Kursija " <sckursija@> wrote: > > > > Dera members, > > To day, October 12, 2007 is the beginning of Durga > > Puja. The Navaratri begins. She is Maha-Shakti or > > Supreme Energy. She manifests chiefly in three forms: > > Maha-Saraswati, Maha-Lakshmi and Maha-Kali: Creation, > > Conservation and Annihilation, i.e. Birth, Sustenance > > and Death, the three faces of life. By worshiping > > Durga, we worship the cycle of life. In Durga > > Saptshati, the Maha-Shakti has been worshiped as " O > > Mother Durga, you remove all fear of those who > > remember you in trouble. You bestow all your wisdom, > > compassion in your heart to those who remember you in > > their happiness. You are the dispeller of poverty, > > pain and fear. " > > May Mother Durga bless you and remove your poverty, > > pain and fear. She may grant you knowledge, wealth and > > happiness. > > > > According to my little knowledge, the energy > > represents activities, the Karma. Our sages have made > > 10th house, Karma, as the most powerful Kendra among > > the Kendra. The 9th house, Bhagya, is 12th to 10th, > > Karma, the negation of Karma. If the lords of 10th and > > 9th combined in auspicious house they produce most > > powerful Raja-Yoga But it is clear that Bhagya has got > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations. > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. > > Mother Durga may guide you through the cycle of life > > and bless you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: > mail, news, photos & more. > > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Respected Bhaskar, Thanks. --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > // it is clear that Bhagya has got > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than > what > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations. > The more you do Karma the more you will get. > Therefore > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides > of > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold > becomes > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. // > > Beautiful Post. > Pl send above to all Forums. People should realise > that " Karma " is " Pradhan " . Nothing can > substitute that. Without " Karma " all " Yogas " are > defunct. Marriage written for native, but if he > does not sit for saath pheras, how can the > marriage be performed ? Children written in > destniy, but if native does not conjugate , then > how children will come ? Just as in these cases > God did not come down to do all this, neither > " Bhagya " , because " Bhagya " is not a physical living > entity, but it is just a " Promise " which can only be > met with appropriate corresponding " Karma " . > Sam way all great Gajkesari Yogas, Dhana Yogas, > Panch mahapurusha Yogas, Rajyogas, > etcetra, stand to nought > if a native sits doing nothing, but just spending > his time leisurely eating free food given by > Parents, > Uncle,or else waiting for destiny to arrive. > > Your post was a lovely treat to read. > > Good. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > , " S.C. Kursija " > <sckursija wrote: > > > > Dera members, > > To day, October 12, 2007 is the beginning of Durga > > Puja. The Navaratri begins. She is Maha-Shakti or > > Supreme Energy. She manifests chiefly in three > forms: > > Maha-Saraswati, Maha-Lakshmi and Maha-Kali: > Creation, > > Conservation and Annihilation, i.e. Birth, > Sustenance > > and Death, the three faces of life. By worshiping > > Durga, we worship the cycle of life. In Durga > > Saptshati, the Maha-Shakti has been worshiped as > " O > > Mother Durga, you remove all fear of those who > > remember you in trouble. You bestow all your > wisdom, > > compassion in your heart to those who remember you > in > > their happiness. You are the dispeller of poverty, > > pain and fear. " > > May Mother Durga bless you and remove your > poverty, > > pain and fear. She may grant you knowledge, wealth > and > > happiness. > > > > According to my little knowledge, the energy > > represents activities, the Karma. Our sages have > made > > 10th house, Karma, as the most powerful Kendra > among > > the Kendra. The 9th house, Bhagya, is 12th to > 10th, > > Karma, the negation of Karma. If the lords of 10th > and > > 9th combined in auspicious house they produce most > > powerful Raja-Yoga But it is clear that Bhagya has > got > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than > what > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any > limitations. > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. > Therefore > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two > sides of > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold > becomes > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. > > Mother Durga may guide you through the cycle of > life > > and bless you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the > Internet in your pocket: > mail, news, photos & more. > > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Dear Dhananjay, You need a Krishna to guide you. I like your arguments. A Planet is known as Graha, means ghar mein grahanam karna (To house) aur grasit karna. (In the mind-to envelope) They do have their influence on our minds. But only till the Dridha Destiny allows. Not more than that. This is the play of Maya, but only that Maya which we ourselves attract through our Karmas of present or Past Births Bhagya is that part of Maya which we have attracted , known as - Individual destiny. The Dridha Karma (Strong actions), of past and present Births will attract strong Results ( Dridha Bhagya) evil or Good, from which we can have no escape. For example persons born blind,lame, or who loose parents early, are all paying for past evil Dridha Karmas. Persons born in rich families, or born in poor ones, but grow rich overnight, due to Lotteries etc, persons who get good looking and Loving wives, healthy bodies without sickness etc. are all earning through their Dridha good karmas and attract Dridh Saubhagya. Karma is different. The same people above who got good loving wives, if yet ill treat their good and caring wives, are now doing kukarma or evil deeds. The same people who are born lame but open hospitals or care centres for other handicapped brethren are into sukarma. That is the Karma, which is in our hands, and the previous one which we received on our own , is our Bhagya. The Bhagya may have given you a good Liver in Your body, but through your own Karmas, you can drink daily and spoil it. That is Karma. The Bhagya may have given you a healthy body, but you may use it to terrorise people or small family members. That is Karma. Planets never teach or put evil ideas in our mind. It is our own evil thoughts which makes us commit wrong actions. Planets do not teach anyone to rape, or plant Bombs and kill innocent people. Planets do not teach us to eye our neighbours beautiful wife, it is our own dirty mind and weak sanskaar which compels us so. God has given us " Discrimination power " or buddhi , One may use it with his own God gifted free will, in either subuddhi or durbuddhi. The planets would only influence you till the Fate written in your destiny is not met, and once that is met, You are free to act and do naveen Karma. I can continue, and I want to, but this mail would become very long. So lets rest now. regards, Bhaskar. , " gupta089 " <gupta089 wrote: > > Bhaskar ji, S.C. Kursija > and others > Namaskar > > Excellent > Excellent Sir, > You are at the right point. > Planets and stars effect our mind (Maan)by some force. > Moon represent our mind. > Planets create fear,terror, hesitation, attraction > and many others feelings. > they press us to do wrong deeds by affecting our mind. > Planets create affection and hatred in the mind for > others and accordingly we treat them. > Planets gives us new ideas in our mind and accordingly > we do work. > > BY MIND WE DO KARMA > Now Bhagya is decided by the planets.These planets > effect our mind and with this affected mind we do the Karma. > Then how BHAGYA AND KARMA ARE DIFFERENT. > Please clarify > Through some light on this point. Iam confussed. > Thanks > Dhananjay Gupta. > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > // it is clear that Bhagya has got > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations. > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. // > > > > Beautiful Post. > > Pl send above to all Forums. People should realise > > that " Karma " is " Pradhan " . Nothing can > > substitute that. Without " Karma " all " Yogas " are > > defunct. Marriage written for native, but if he > > does not sit for saath pheras, how can the > > marriage be performed ? Children written in > > destniy, but if native does not conjugate , then > > how children will come ? Just as in these cases > > God did not come down to do all this, neither > > " Bhagya " , because " Bhagya " is not a physical living > > entity, but it is just a " Promise " which can only be > > met with appropriate corresponding " Karma " . > > Sam way all great Gajkesari Yogas, Dhana Yogas, > > Panch mahapurusha Yogas, Rajyogas, > > etcetra, stand to nought > > if a native sits doing nothing, but just spending > > his time leisurely eating free food given by Parents, > > Uncle,or else waiting for destiny to arrive. > > > > Your post was a lovely treat to read. > > > > Good. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " S.C. Kursija " <sckursija@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dera members, > > > To day, October 12, 2007 is the beginning of Durga > > > Puja. The Navaratri begins. She is Maha-Shakti or > > > Supreme Energy. She manifests chiefly in three forms: > > > Maha-Saraswati, Maha-Lakshmi and Maha-Kali: Creation, > > > Conservation and Annihilation, i.e. Birth, Sustenance > > > and Death, the three faces of life. By worshiping > > > Durga, we worship the cycle of life. In Durga > > > Saptshati, the Maha-Shakti has been worshiped as " O > > > Mother Durga, you remove all fear of those who > > > remember you in trouble. You bestow all your wisdom, > > > compassion in your heart to those who remember you in > > > their happiness. You are the dispeller of poverty, > > > pain and fear. " > > > May Mother Durga bless you and remove your poverty, > > > pain and fear. She may grant you knowledge, wealth and > > > happiness. > > > > > > According to my little knowledge, the energy > > > represents activities, the Karma. Our sages have made > > > 10th house, Karma, as the most powerful Kendra among > > > the Kendra. The 9th house, Bhagya, is 12th to 10th, > > > Karma, the negation of Karma. If the lords of 10th and > > > 9th combined in auspicious house they produce most > > > powerful Raja-Yoga But it is clear that Bhagya has got > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations. > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. > > > Mother Durga may guide you through the cycle of life > > > and bless you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > ______________ > > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your > pocket: > > mail, news, photos & more. > > > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 BHASKAR JI NAMASKAR Thanks Sir, I know that you only,can tell answers to such types of questions. Your explaination is correct.Iam deeply thinking on it.Please tell me what is the meaning of the word " Dridha " Iam obliged to you.I will feel thankfull to you if you continue the message on Karma and Bhagya REGARDS Dhananjay , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Dhananjay, > > You need a Krishna to guide you. > I like your arguments. > A Planet is known as Graha, means > ghar mein grahanam karna (To house) > aur grasit karna. (In the mind-to envelope) > They do have their influence on our minds. > But only till the Dridha Destiny allows. > Not more than that. This is the play of Maya, > but only that Maya which we ourselves attract > through our Karmas of present or Past Births > > Bhagya is that part of Maya which we have > attracted , known as - Individual destiny. > The Dridha Karma (Strong actions), of past > and present Births will attract strong Results > ( Dridha Bhagya) evil or Good, > from which we can have no escape. > For example persons born blind,lame, or > who loose parents early, are all paying > for past evil Dridha Karmas. > Persons born in rich families, or born in > poor ones, but grow rich overnight, due > to Lotteries etc, persons who get good > looking and Loving wives, healthy bodies > without sickness etc. are all earning > through their Dridha good karmas and > attract Dridh Saubhagya. > > Karma is different. > The same people above who got good > loving wives, if yet ill treat their good and > caring wives, are now doing kukarma or > evil deeds. > The same people who are born lame but > open hospitals or care centres for other > handicapped brethren are into sukarma. > That is the Karma, which is in our > hands, and the previous one which > we received on our own , is our > Bhagya. > > The Bhagya may have given you a good Liver > in Your body, but through your own Karmas, you can > drink daily and spoil it. That is Karma. > The Bhagya may have given you a healthy body, but > you may use it to terrorise people or small > family members. That is Karma. > > Planets never teach or put evil ideas in our mind. > It is our own evil thoughts which makes us commit > wrong actions. Planets do not teach anyone > to rape, or plant Bombs and kill innocent > people. Planets do not teach us to eye our > neighbours beautiful wife, it is our own dirty mind > and weak sanskaar which compels us so. > God has given us " Discrimination > power " or buddhi , One may use it with > his own God gifted free will, in either > subuddhi or durbuddhi. > > The planets would only influence you till > the Fate written in your destiny is not met, > and once that is met, You are free to > act and do naveen Karma. > > I can continue, and I want to, but this > mail would become very long. > So lets rest now. > > regards, > Bhaskar. , " gupta089 " <gupta089@> wrote: > > > > Bhaskar ji, S.C. Kursija > > and others > > Namaskar > > > > Excellent > > Excellent Sir, > > You are at the right point. > > Planets and stars effect our mind (Maan)by some force. > > Moon represent our mind. > > Planets create fear,terror, hesitation, attraction > > and many others feelings. > > they press us to do wrong deeds by affecting our mind. > > Planets create affection and hatred in the mind for > > others and accordingly we treat them. > > Planets gives us new ideas in our mind and accordingly > > we do work. > > > > BY MIND WE DO KARMA > > Now Bhagya is decided by the planets.These planets > > effect our mind and with this affected mind we do the Karma. > > Then how BHAGYA AND KARMA ARE DIFFERENT. > > Please clarify > > Through some light on this point. Iam confussed. > > Thanks > > Dhananjay Gupta. > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > // it is clear that Bhagya has got > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations. > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. // > > > > > > Beautiful Post. > > > Pl send above to all Forums. People should realise > > > that " Karma " is " Pradhan " . Nothing can > > > substitute that. Without " Karma " all " Yogas " are > > > defunct. Marriage written for native, but if he > > > does not sit for saath pheras, how can the > > > marriage be performed ? Children written in > > > destniy, but if native does not conjugate , then > > > how children will come ? Just as in these cases > > > God did not come down to do all this, neither > > > " Bhagya " , because " Bhagya " is not a physical living > > > entity, but it is just a " Promise " which can only be > > > met with appropriate corresponding " Karma " . > > > Sam way all great Gajkesari Yogas, Dhana Yogas, > > > Panch mahapurusha Yogas, Rajyogas, > > > etcetra, stand to nought > > > if a native sits doing nothing, but just spending > > > his time leisurely eating free food given by Parents, > > > Uncle,or else waiting for destiny to arrive. > > > > > > Your post was a lovely treat to read. > > > > > > Good. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > , " S.C. Kursija " <sckursija@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dera members, > > > > To day, October 12, 2007 is the beginning of Durga > > > > Puja. The Navaratri begins. She is Maha-Shakti or > > > > Supreme Energy. She manifests chiefly in three forms: > > > > Maha-Saraswati, Maha-Lakshmi and Maha-Kali: Creation, > > > > Conservation and Annihilation, i.e. Birth, Sustenance > > > > and Death, the three faces of life. By worshiping > > > > Durga, we worship the cycle of life. In Durga > > > > Saptshati, the Maha-Shakti has been worshiped as " O > > > > Mother Durga, you remove all fear of those who > > > > remember you in trouble. You bestow all your wisdom, > > > > compassion in your heart to those who remember you in > > > > their happiness. You are the dispeller of poverty, > > > > pain and fear. " > > > > May Mother Durga bless you and remove your poverty, > > > > pain and fear. She may grant you knowledge, wealth and > > > > happiness. > > > > > > > > According to my little knowledge, the energy > > > > represents activities, the Karma. Our sages have made > > > > 10th house, Karma, as the most powerful Kendra among > > > > the Kendra. The 9th house, Bhagya, is 12th to 10th, > > > > Karma, the negation of Karma. If the lords of 10th and > > > > 9th combined in auspicious house they produce most > > > > powerful Raja-Yoga But it is clear that Bhagya has got > > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what > > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the > > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations. > > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore > > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of > > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes > > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. > > > > Mother Durga may guide you through the cycle of life > > > > and bless you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > > ______________ > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your > > pocket: > > > mail, news, photos & more. > > > > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Dear Guptaji, Namaste, " Dridha " means strong, or determined, or strong willed, as in " Dridha Nischay " . Dridha is synonymous with " Bhishma " or irrevocable or something which is bound to occur, or happen, or " decided " . Example of difference between Bhagya and Karma. My Bhagya gives me to eat, without having to work for it, because of my ancestral property and investments made by my forefathers, which keep on giving monthly returns for sustenance. So actually I do not have to work for basic living. But, if I yet work everyday,and add to the returns already coming without my inputs of efforts, then this work would become worship or Karma. Over Karma, we have a great free will given by God. This should not be wasted, which in other words means,that time is very precious and must not be littered away, but put to useful use. This was good Karma accentuating the good Bhagya. My Bhagya yesterday gave me a chance to earn Rs.2500-, when I gave some predictions to a lady who offered to deposit double this amount, in my bank a/c., but I littered the Bhagya away, by trying to impress her,and asked her to wait till those predictions come true in 3 months time, and then deposit the Fees. This was bad karma working against the Good Bhagya (As of now apparently). You may replicate the above examples with instances from your own Life, when a Bad Bhagya was given a right approach, while a good Bhagya was approached wrongly.Also Good Bhagya with Good Karma, and bad Bhagya made worser with Bad Karmas. Thus you may understand the working of Bhagya and Karma. regards, Bhaskar. , " gupta089 " <gupta089 wrote: > > BHASKAR JI > NAMASKAR > Thanks Sir, > I know that you only,can tell answers to such types > of questions. > Your explaination is correct.Iam deeply thinking on > it.Please tell me what is the meaning of the word > " Dridha " > Iam obliged to you.I will feel thankfull to you > if you continue the message on Karma and Bhagya > > REGARDS > Dhananjay > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Dhananjay, > > > > You need a Krishna to guide you. > > I like your arguments. > > A Planet is known as Graha, means > > ghar mein grahanam karna (To house) > > aur grasit karna. (In the mind-to envelope) > > They do have their influence on our minds. > > But only till the Dridha Destiny allows. > > Not more than that. This is the play of Maya, > > but only that Maya which we ourselves attract > > through our Karmas of present or Past Births > > > > Bhagya is that part of Maya which we have > > attracted , known as - Individual destiny. > > The Dridha Karma (Strong actions), of past > > and present Births will attract strong Results > > ( Dridha Bhagya) evil or Good, > > from which we can have no escape. > > For example persons born blind,lame, or > > who loose parents early, are all paying > > for past evil Dridha Karmas. > > Persons born in rich families, or born in > > poor ones, but grow rich overnight, due > > to Lotteries etc, persons who get good > > looking and Loving wives, healthy bodies > > without sickness etc. are all earning > > through their Dridha good karmas and > > attract Dridh Saubhagya. > > > > Karma is different. > > The same people above who got good > > loving wives, if yet ill treat their good and > > caring wives, are now doing kukarma or > > evil deeds. > > The same people who are born lame but > > open hospitals or care centres for other > > handicapped brethren are into sukarma. > > That is the Karma, which is in our > > hands, and the previous one which > > we received on our own , is our > > Bhagya. > > > > The Bhagya may have given you a good Liver > > in Your body, but through your own Karmas, you can > > drink daily and spoil it. That is Karma. > > The Bhagya may have given you a healthy body, but > > you may use it to terrorise people or small > > family members. That is Karma. > > > > Planets never teach or put evil ideas in our mind. > > It is our own evil thoughts which makes us commit > > wrong actions. Planets do not teach anyone > > to rape, or plant Bombs and kill innocent > > people. Planets do not teach us to eye our > > neighbours beautiful wife, it is our own dirty mind > > and weak sanskaar which compels us so. > > God has given us " Discrimination > > power " or buddhi , One may use it with > > his own God gifted free will, in either > > subuddhi or durbuddhi. > > > > The planets would only influence you till > > the Fate written in your destiny is not met, > > and once that is met, You are free to > > act and do naveen Karma. > > > > I can continue, and I want to, but this > > mail would become very long. > > So lets rest now. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gupta089 " <gupta089@> wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar ji, S.C. Kursija > > > and others > > > Namaskar > > > > > > Excellent > > > Excellent Sir, > > > You are at the right point. > > > Planets and stars effect our mind (Maan)by some force. > > > Moon represent our mind. > > > Planets create fear,terror, hesitation, attraction > > > and many others feelings. > > > they press us to do wrong deeds by affecting our mind. > > > Planets create affection and hatred in the mind for > > > others and accordingly we treat them. > > > Planets gives us new ideas in our mind and accordingly > > > we do work. > > > > > > BY MIND WE DO KARMA > > > Now Bhagya is decided by the planets.These planets > > > effect our mind and with this affected mind we do the Karma. > > > Then how BHAGYA AND KARMA ARE DIFFERENT. > > > Please clarify > > > Through some light on this point. Iam confussed. > > > Thanks > > > Dhananjay Gupta. > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > // it is clear that Bhagya has got > > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what > > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the > > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations. > > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore > > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of > > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes > > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. // > > > > > > > > Beautiful Post. > > > > Pl send above to all Forums. People should realise > > > > that " Karma " is " Pradhan " . Nothing can > > > > substitute that. Without " Karma " all " Yogas " are > > > > defunct. Marriage written for native, but if he > > > > does not sit for saath pheras, how can the > > > > marriage be performed ? Children written in > > > > destniy, but if native does not conjugate , then > > > > how children will come ? Just as in these cases > > > > God did not come down to do all this, neither > > > > " Bhagya " , because " Bhagya " is not a physical living > > > > entity, but it is just a " Promise " which can only be > > > > met with appropriate corresponding " Karma " . > > > > Sam way all great Gajkesari Yogas, Dhana Yogas, > > > > Panch mahapurusha Yogas, Rajyogas, > > > > etcetra, stand to nought > > > > if a native sits doing nothing, but just spending > > > > his time leisurely eating free food given by Parents, > > > > Uncle,or else waiting for destiny to arrive. > > > > > > > > Your post was a lovely treat to read. > > > > > > > > Good. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " S.C. Kursija " > <sckursija@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dera members, > > > > > To day, October 12, 2007 is the beginning of Durga > > > > > Puja. The Navaratri begins. She is Maha-Shakti or > > > > > Supreme Energy. She manifests chiefly in three forms: > > > > > Maha-Saraswati, Maha-Lakshmi and Maha-Kali: Creation, > > > > > Conservation and Annihilation, i.e. Birth, Sustenance > > > > > and Death, the three faces of life. By worshiping > > > > > Durga, we worship the cycle of life. In Durga > > > > > Saptshati, the Maha-Shakti has been worshiped as " O > > > > > Mother Durga, you remove all fear of those who > > > > > remember you in trouble. You bestow all your wisdom, > > > > > compassion in your heart to those who remember you in > > > > > their happiness. You are the dispeller of poverty, > > > > > pain and fear. " > > > > > May Mother Durga bless you and remove your poverty, > > > > > pain and fear. She may grant you knowledge, wealth and > > > > > happiness. > > > > > > > > > > According to my little knowledge, the energy > > > > > represents activities, the Karma. Our sages have made > > > > > 10th house, Karma, as the most powerful Kendra among > > > > > the Kendra. The 9th house, Bhagya, is 12th to 10th, > > > > > Karma, the negation of Karma. If the lords of 10th and > > > > > 9th combined in auspicious house they produce most > > > > > powerful Raja-Yoga But it is clear that Bhagya has got > > > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what > > > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the > > > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations. > > > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore > > > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of > > > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes > > > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. > > > > > Mother Durga may guide you through the cycle of life > > > > > and bless you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > > > ______________ > > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your > > > pocket: > > > > mail, news, photos & more. > > > > > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Good thoughts Bhaskar ji, You said: //My Bhagya gives me to eat, without having to work for it, because of my ancestral property and investments made by my forefathers, which keep on giving monthly returns for sustenance. So actually I do not have to work for basic living.// Actually, this Bhagya is a result of your own past Karma that got deposited in your Bhaghya account! What you seeded 'Yesterday' is what you reap 'Today' One does not get anything Free in this world! Every bit has to be earned by own Karma! Since Bhagya (Sanchita/Prarabdha Karma) is the creation of our own Karams from the past only our actions (Karma) of today has the power to modify it! Nothing else, not even God can alter it! Regards, Krishna --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear Guptaji, > > Namaste, > > " Dridha " means strong, or determined, > or strong willed, as in " Dridha Nischay " . > Dridha is synonymous with " Bhishma " or > irrevocable or something which is bound > to occur, or happen, or " decided " . > > Example of difference between Bhagya and > Karma. > > My Bhagya gives me to eat, without having to > work for it, because of my ancestral property > and investments made by my forefathers, which > keep on giving monthly returns for sustenance. > So actually I do not have to work for basic > living. > But, if I yet work everyday,and add to the > returns already coming without my inputs > of efforts, then this work would become > worship or Karma. Over Karma, > we have a great free will given by God. > This should not be wasted, which in other > words means,that time is very precious and must > not be littered away, but put to useful use. > This was good Karma accentuating the good Bhagya. > > My Bhagya yesterday gave me a chance to earn > Rs.2500-, when I gave some predictions to > a lady who offered to deposit double this > amount, in my bank a/c., but I littered > the Bhagya away, by trying to impress her,and > asked her to wait till those predictions come > true in 3 months time, and then deposit the > Fees. This was bad karma working against > the Good Bhagya (As of now apparently). > > You may replicate the above examples with instances > from your own Life, when a Bad Bhagya was given > a right approach, while a good Bhagya was approached > wrongly.Also Good Bhagya with Good Karma, and bad > Bhagya made worser with Bad Karmas. > > Thus you may understand the working of Bhagya > and Karma. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , " gupta089 " <gupta089 > wrote: > > > > BHASKAR JI > > NAMASKAR > > Thanks Sir, > > I know that you only,can tell answers to such types > > of questions. > > Your explaination is correct.Iam deeply thinking on > > it.Please tell me what is the meaning of the word > > " Dridha " > > Iam obliged to you.I will feel thankfull to you > > if you continue the message on Karma and Bhagya > > > > REGARDS > > Dhananjay > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Dhananjay, > > > > > > You need a Krishna to guide you. > > > I like your arguments. > > > A Planet is known as Graha, means > > > ghar mein grahanam karna (To house) > > > aur grasit karna. (In the mind-to envelope) > > > They do have their influence on our minds. > > > But only till the Dridha Destiny allows. > > > Not more than that. This is the play of Maya, > > > but only that Maya which we ourselves attract > > > through our Karmas of present or Past Births > > > > > > Bhagya is that part of Maya which we have > > > attracted , known as - Individual destiny. > > > The Dridha Karma (Strong actions), of past > > > and present Births will attract strong Results > > > ( Dridha Bhagya) evil or Good, > > > from which we can have no escape. > > > For example persons born blind,lame, or > > > who loose parents early, are all paying > > > for past evil Dridha Karmas. > > > Persons born in rich families, or born in > > > poor ones, but grow rich overnight, due > > > to Lotteries etc, persons who get good > > > looking and Loving wives, healthy bodies > > > without sickness etc. are all earning > > > through their Dridha good karmas and > > > attract Dridh Saubhagya. > > > > > > Karma is different. > > > The same people above who got good > > > loving wives, if yet ill treat their good and > > > caring wives, are now doing kukarma or > > > evil deeds. > > > The same people who are born lame but > > > open hospitals or care centres for other > > > handicapped brethren are into sukarma. > > > That is the Karma, which is in our > > > hands, and the previous one which > > > we received on our own , is our > > > Bhagya. > > > > > > The Bhagya may have given you a good Liver > > > in Your body, but through your own Karmas, you can > > > drink daily and spoil it. That is Karma. > > > The Bhagya may have given you a healthy body, but > > > you may use it to terrorise people or small > > > family members. That is Karma. > > > > > > Planets never teach or put evil ideas in our mind. > > > It is our own evil thoughts which makes us commit > > > wrong actions. Planets do not teach anyone > > > to rape, or plant Bombs and kill innocent > > > people. Planets do not teach us to eye our > > > neighbours beautiful wife, it is our own dirty mind > > > and weak sanskaar which compels us so. > > > God has given us " Discrimination > > > power " or buddhi , One may use it with > > > his own God gifted free will, in either > > > subuddhi or durbuddhi. > > > > > > The planets would only influence you till > > > the Fate written in your destiny is not met, > > > and once that is met, You are free to > > > act and do naveen Karma. > > > > > > I can continue, and I want to, but this > > > mail would become very long. > > > So lets rest now. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gupta089 " > <gupta089@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhaskar ji, S.C. Kursija > > > > and others > > > > Namaskar > > > > > > > > Excellent > > > > Excellent Sir, > > > > You are at the right point. > > > > Planets and stars effect our mind (Maan)by some force. > > > > Moon represent our mind. > > > > Planets create fear,terror, hesitation, attraction > > > > and many others feelings. > > > > they press us to do wrong deeds by affecting our mind. > > > > Planets create affection and hatred in the mind for > > > > others and accordingly we treat them. > > > > Planets gives us new ideas in our mind and accordingly > > > > we do work. > > > > > > > > BY MIND WE DO KARMA > > > > Now Bhagya is decided by the planets.These planets > > > > effect our mind and with this affected mind we do the > Karma. > > > > Then how BHAGYA AND KARMA ARE DIFFERENT. > > > > Please clarify > > > > Through some light on this point. Iam confussed. > > > > Thanks > > > > Dhananjay Gupta. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > // it is clear that Bhagya has got > > > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what > > > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the > > > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations. > > > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore > > > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of > > > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes > > > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. // > > > > > > > > > > Beautiful Post. > > > > > Pl send above to all Forums. People should realise > > > > > that " Karma " is " Pradhan " . Nothing can > > > > > substitute that. Without " Karma " all " Yogas " are > === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. 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Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 ll HARE RAM ll Dear Bhaskar Bhai, Ram Ram Bhagya is not the Maya.In fact Bhagya is the result of our past good karmas that motivates us to do good karmas in the present life but if we do try to uderstand it having open eyes means with Buddhi-Vivek and the past and present good karmas can provide one ultimate destination Bhakti / Mukti.If Bhagya is Maya how can it give us good liver as you explained earlier?To think about the sum Rs.2500/- that you could not get,is neither Bhagya or Durbhagya.First,not to get and now to think about it is called in Hindi " & #2342; & #2369; & #2326; & #2325; & #2368; & #2357; & #2375; & #2342; & #2344; & #2366; " and if you become able to get such amount,that was called " & #2360; & #2369; & #2326; & #2325; & #2368; & #2357; & #2375; & #2342; & #2344; & #2366; " . Plz try to understand both are VEDNA in fact because " Sansarik sukh are Naashwan " and to help the others the main motive of human being had been secondry slightly in such case but practice of doing good karmas a natural habit blocked your way to accept the same amount instantly that was the result of " PRAVATTI " (Habit to help others) regarding the same has been explained in " YOGA-VASHISTHA " but to think about it till now is the effect of Maya.It was not the matter of either Bhagya or Durbhagya. What is the result of past good karmas,one can realize to read the news in Hindi news paper " Dainik Jagran " of dated 13th of Oct 2007.Two months old female baby of Sh.Krishna Nand Gupta of Town-Sirsaganj,Distt-Firojabad(UP) was died due to Pneumonia,so she was graved.Third night after the death that baby came in the dreams of her mother Sangeeta and requested her to plz keep me away from the grave because i am still alive.So very next day family members went there found her alive and fit after digging the grave.It is the result of past good karmas/Bhagya. Few months before one well known industrialist of Delhi came to my residence with the horoscope of his son who was suffering from tumor in his back.In short i advised him to give wheat flour and sugar to ants daily but i became stunned to listen his answer, according to him he was doing the said regularly from last 28 years not only giving but also he did not eat any thing before doing the same.So all such deeds/habits make a good Bhagya but it should be done by all means as MANSAA (By heart),VAACHAA(By speaking healing words) and KARMANAA (To help others without hoping for any consideration). As you know it is endless debate/topic and i find myself unable/uneasy to indulge in such threading because i think MANAN (To learn) is more important in comparison to place logics/arguements.God bless You. With all good wishes Shashie Shekhar Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Guptaji, Namaste, " Dridha " means strong, or determined, or strong willed, as in " Dridha Nischay " . Dridha is synonymous with " Bhishma " or irrevocable or something which is bound to occur, or happen, or " decided " . Example of difference between Bhagya and Karma. My Bhagya gives me to eat, without having to work for it, because of my ancestral property and investments made by my forefathers, which keep on giving monthly returns for sustenance. So actually I do not have to work for basic living. But, if I yet work everyday,and add to the returns already coming without my inputs of efforts, then this work would become worship or Karma. Over Karma, we have a great free will given by God. This should not be wasted, which in other words means,that time is very precious and must not be littered away, but put to useful use. This was good Karma accentuating the good Bhagya. My Bhagya yesterday gave me a chance to earn Rs.2500-, when I gave some predictions to a lady who offered to deposit double this amount, in my bank a/c., but I littered the Bhagya away, by trying to impress her,and asked her to wait till those predictions come true in 3 months time, and then deposit the Fees. This was bad karma working against the Good Bhagya (As of now apparently). You may replicate the above examples with instances from your own Life, when a Bad Bhagya was given a right approach, while a good Bhagya was approached wrongly.Also Good Bhagya with Good Karma, and bad Bhagya made worser with Bad Karmas. Thus you may understand the working of Bhagya and Karma. regards, Bhaskar. , " gupta089 " wrote: > > BHASKAR JI > NAMASKAR > Thanks Sir, > I know that you only,can tell answers to such types > of questions. > Your explaination is correct.Iam deeply thinking on > it.Please tell me what is the meaning of the word > " Dridha " > Iam obliged to you.I will feel thankfull to you > if you continue the message on Karma and Bhagya > > REGARDS > Dhananjay > > > > , " Bhaskar " > wrote: > > > > Dear Dhananjay, > > > > You need a Krishna to guide you. > > I like your arguments. > > A Planet is known as Graha, means > > ghar mein grahanam karna (To house) > > aur grasit karna. (In the mind-to envelope) > > They do have their influence on our minds. > > But only till the Dridha Destiny allows. > > Not more than that. This is the play of Maya, > > but only that Maya which we ourselves attract > > through our Karmas of present or Past Births > > > > Bhagya is that part of Maya which we have > > attracted , known as - Individual destiny. > > The Dridha Karma (Strong actions), of past > > and present Births will attract strong Results > > ( Dridha Bhagya) evil or Good, > > from which we can have no escape. > > For example persons born blind,lame, or > > who loose parents early, are all paying > > for past evil Dridha Karmas. > > Persons born in rich families, or born in > > poor ones, but grow rich overnight, due > > to Lotteries etc, persons who get good > > looking and Loving wives, healthy bodies > > without sickness etc. are all earning > > through their Dridha good karmas and > > attract Dridh Saubhagya. > > > > Karma is different. > > The same people above who got good > > loving wives, if yet ill treat their good and > > caring wives, are now doing kukarma or > > evil deeds. > > The same people who are born lame but > > open hospitals or care centres for other > > handicapped brethren are into sukarma. > > That is the Karma, which is in our > > hands, and the previous one which > > we received on our own , is our > > Bhagya. > > > > The Bhagya may have given you a good Liver > > in Your body, but through your own Karmas, you can > > drink daily and spoil it. That is Karma. > > The Bhagya may have given you a healthy body, but > > you may use it to terrorise people or small > > family members. That is Karma. > > > > Planets never teach or put evil ideas in our mind. > > It is our own evil thoughts which makes us commit > > wrong actions. Planets do not teach anyone > > to rape, or plant Bombs and kill innocent > > people. Planets do not teach us to eye our > > neighbours beautiful wife, it is our own dirty mind > > and weak sanskaar which compels us so. > > God has given us " Discrimination > > power " or buddhi , One may use it with > > his own God gifted free will, in either > > subuddhi or durbuddhi. > > > > The planets would only influence you till > > the Fate written in your destiny is not met, > > and once that is met, You are free to > > act and do naveen Karma. > > > > I can continue, and I want to, but this > > mail would become very long. > > So lets rest now. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gupta089 " wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar ji, S.C. Kursija > > > and others > > > Namaskar > > > > > > Excellent > > > Excellent Sir, > > > You are at the right point. > > > Planets and stars effect our mind (Maan)by some force. > > > Moon represent our mind. > > > Planets create fear,terror, hesitation, attraction > > > and many others feelings. > > > they press us to do wrong deeds by affecting our mind. > > > Planets create affection and hatred in the mind for > > > others and accordingly we treat them. > > > Planets gives us new ideas in our mind and accordingly > > > we do work. > > > > > > BY MIND WE DO KARMA > > > Now Bhagya is decided by the planets.These planets > > > effect our mind and with this affected mind we do the Karma. > > > Then how BHAGYA AND KARMA ARE DIFFERENT. > > > Please clarify > > > Through some light on this point. Iam confussed. > > > Thanks > > > Dhananjay Gupta. > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > // it is clear that Bhagya has got > > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what > > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the > > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations. > > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore > > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of > > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes > > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. // > > > > > > > > Beautiful Post. > > > > Pl send above to all Forums. People should realise > > > > that " Karma " is " Pradhan " . Nothing can > > > > substitute that. Without " Karma " all " Yogas " are > > > > defunct. Marriage written for native, but if he > > > > does not sit for saath pheras, how can the > > > > marriage be performed ? Children written in > > > > destniy, but if native does not conjugate , then > > > > how children will come ? Just as in these cases > > > > God did not come down to do all this, neither > > > > " Bhagya " , because " Bhagya " is not a physical living > > > > entity, but it is just a " Promise " which can only be > > > > met with appropriate corresponding " Karma " . > > > > Sam way all great Gajkesari Yogas, Dhana Yogas, > > > > Panch mahapurusha Yogas, Rajyogas, > > > > etcetra, stand to nought > > > > if a native sits doing nothing, but just spending > > > > his time leisurely eating free food given by Parents, > > > > Uncle,or else waiting for destiny to arrive. > > > > > > > > Your post was a lovely treat to read. > > > > > > > > Good. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " S.C. Kursija " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dera members, > > > > > To day, October 12, 2007 is the beginning of Durga > > > > > Puja. The Navaratri begins. She is Maha-Shakti or > > > > > Supreme Energy. She manifests chiefly in three forms: > > > > > Maha-Saraswati, Maha-Lakshmi and Maha-Kali: Creation, > > > > > Conservation and Annihilation, i.e. Birth, Sustenance > > > > > and Death, the three faces of life. By worshiping > > > > > Durga, we worship the cycle of life. In Durga > > > > > Saptshati, the Maha-Shakti has been worshiped as " O > > > > > Mother Durga, you remove all fear of those who > > > > > remember you in trouble. You bestow all your wisdom, > > > > > compassion in your heart to those who remember you in > > > > > their happiness. You are the dispeller of poverty, > > > > > pain and fear. " > > > > > May Mother Durga bless you and remove your poverty, > > > > > pain and fear. She may grant you knowledge, wealth and > > > > > happiness. > > > > > > > > > > According to my little knowledge, the energy > > > > > represents activities, the Karma. Our sages have made > > > > > 10th house, Karma, as the most powerful Kendra among > > > > > the Kendra. The 9th house, Bhagya, is 12th to 10th, > > > > > Karma, the negation of Karma. If the lords of 10th and > > > > > 9th combined in auspicious house they produce most > > > > > powerful Raja-Yoga But it is clear that Bhagya has got > > > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what > > > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the > > > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations. > > > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore > > > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of > > > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes > > > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. > > > > > Mother Durga may guide you through the cycle of life > > > > > and bless you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > > > ______________ > > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your > > > pocket: > > > > mail, news, photos & more. > > > > > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 ll HARE RAM ll Dear Bhaskar Bhai, Ram Ram Bhagya is not the Maya.In fact Bhagya is the result of our past good karmas that motivates us to do good karmas in the present life but if we do try to uderstand it having open eyes means with Buddhi-Vivek and the past and present good karmas can provide one ultimate destination Bhakti / Mukti.If Bhagya is Maya how can it give us good liver as you explained earlier?To think about the sum Rs.2500/- that you could not get,is neither Bhagya or Durbhagya.First,not to get and now to think about it is called in Hindi " & #2342; & #2369; & #2326; & #2325; & #2368; & #2357; & #2375; & #2342; & #2344; & #2366; " and if you become able to get such amount,that was called " & #2360; & #2369; & #2326; & #2325; & #2368; & #2357; & #2375; & #2342; & #2344; & #2366; " . Plz try to understand both are VEDNA in fact because " Sansarik sukh are Naashwan " and to help the others the main motive of human being had been secondry slightly in such case but practice of doing good karmas a natural habit blocked your way to accept the same amount instantly that was the result of " PRAVATTI " (Habit to help others) regarding the same has been explained in " YOGA-VASHISTHA " but to think about it till now is the effect of Maya.It was not the matter of either Bhagya or Durbhagya. What is the result of past good karmas,one can realize to read the news in Hindi news paper " Dainik Jagran " of dated 13th of Oct 2007.Two months old female baby of Sh.Krishna Nand Gupta of Town-Sirsaganj,Distt-Firojabad(UP) was died due to Pneumonia,so she was graved.Third night after the death that baby came in the dreams of her mother Sangeeta and requested her to plz keep me away from the grave because i am still alive.So very next day family members went there found her alive and fit after digging the grave.It is the result of past good karmas/Bhagya. Few months before one well known industrialist of Delhi came to my residence with the horoscope of his son who was suffering from tumor in his back.In short i advised him to give wheat flour and sugar to ants daily but i became stunned to listen his answer, according to him he was doing the said regularly from last 28 years not only giving but also he did not eat any thing before doing the same.So all such deeds/habits make a good Bhagya but it should be done by all means as MANSAA (By heart),VAACHAA(By speaking healing words) and KARMANAA (To help others without hoping for any consideration). As you know it is endless debate/topic and i find myself unable/uneasy to indulge in such threading because i think MANAN (To learn) is more important in comparison to place logics/arguements.God bless You. With all good wishes Shashie Shekhar Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Guptaji, Namaste, " Dridha " means strong, or determined, or strong willed, as in " Dridha Nischay " . Dridha is synonymous with " Bhishma " or irrevocable or something which is bound to occur, or happen, or " decided " . Example of difference between Bhagya and Karma. My Bhagya gives me to eat, without having to work for it, because of my ancestral property and investments made by my forefathers, which keep on giving monthly returns for sustenance. So actually I do not have to work for basic living. But, if I yet work everyday,and add to the returns already coming without my inputs of efforts, then this work would become worship or Karma. Over Karma, we have a great free will given by God. This should not be wasted, which in other words means,that time is very precious and must not be littered away, but put to useful use. This was good Karma accentuating the good Bhagya. My Bhagya yesterday gave me a chance to earn Rs.2500-, when I gave some predictions to a lady who offered to deposit double this amount, in my bank a/c., but I littered the Bhagya away, by trying to impress her,and asked her to wait till those predictions come true in 3 months time, and then deposit the Fees. This was bad karma working against the Good Bhagya (As of now apparently). You may replicate the above examples with instances from your own Life, when a Bad Bhagya was given a right approach, while a good Bhagya was approached wrongly.Also Good Bhagya with Good Karma, and bad Bhagya made worser with Bad Karmas. Thus you may understand the working of Bhagya and Karma. regards, Bhaskar. , " gupta089 " wrote: > > BHASKAR JI > NAMASKAR > Thanks Sir, > I know that you only,can tell answers to such types > of questions. > Your explaination is correct.Iam deeply thinking on > it.Please tell me what is the meaning of the word > " Dridha " > Iam obliged to you.I will feel thankfull to you > if you continue the message on Karma and Bhagya > > REGARDS > Dhananjay > > > > , " Bhaskar " > wrote: > > > > Dear Dhananjay, > > > > You need a Krishna to guide you. > > I like your arguments. > > A Planet is known as Graha, means > > ghar mein grahanam karna (To house) > > aur grasit karna. (In the mind-to envelope) > > They do have their influence on our minds. > > But only till the Dridha Destiny allows. > > Not more than that. This is the play of Maya, > > but only that Maya which we ourselves attract > > through our Karmas of present or Past Births > > > > Bhagya is that part of Maya which we have > > attracted , known as - Individual destiny. > > The Dridha Karma (Strong actions), of past > > and present Births will attract strong Results > > ( Dridha Bhagya) evil or Good, > > from which we can have no escape. > > For example persons born blind,lame, or > > who loose parents early, are all paying > > for past evil Dridha Karmas. > > Persons born in rich families, or born in > > poor ones, but grow rich overnight, due > > to Lotteries etc, persons who get good > > looking and Loving wives, healthy bodies > > without sickness etc. are all earning > > through their Dridha good karmas and > > attract Dridh Saubhagya. > > > > Karma is different. > > The same people above who got good > > loving wives, if yet ill treat their good and > > caring wives, are now doing kukarma or > > evil deeds. > > The same people who are born lame but > > open hospitals or care centres for other > > handicapped brethren are into sukarma. > > That is the Karma, which is in our > > hands, and the previous one which > > we received on our own , is our > > Bhagya. > > > > The Bhagya may have given you a good Liver > > in Your body, but through your own Karmas, you can > > drink daily and spoil it. That is Karma. > > The Bhagya may have given you a healthy body, but > > you may use it to terrorise people or small > > family members. That is Karma. > > > > Planets never teach or put evil ideas in our mind. > > It is our own evil thoughts which makes us commit > > wrong actions. Planets do not teach anyone > > to rape, or plant Bombs and kill innocent > > people. Planets do not teach us to eye our > > neighbours beautiful wife, it is our own dirty mind > > and weak sanskaar which compels us so. > > God has given us " Discrimination > > power " or buddhi , One may use it with > > his own God gifted free will, in either > > subuddhi or durbuddhi. > > > > The planets would only influence you till > > the Fate written in your destiny is not met, > > and once that is met, You are free to > > act and do naveen Karma. > > > > I can continue, and I want to, but this > > mail would become very long. > > So lets rest now. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gupta089 " wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar ji, S.C. Kursija > > > and others > > > Namaskar > > > > > > Excellent > > > Excellent Sir, > > > You are at the right point. > > > Planets and stars effect our mind (Maan)by some force. > > > Moon represent our mind. > > > Planets create fear,terror, hesitation, attraction > > > and many others feelings. > > > they press us to do wrong deeds by affecting our mind. > > > Planets create affection and hatred in the mind for > > > others and accordingly we treat them. > > > Planets gives us new ideas in our mind and accordingly > > > we do work. > > > > > > BY MIND WE DO KARMA > > > Now Bhagya is decided by the planets.These planets > > > effect our mind and with this affected mind we do the Karma. > > > Then how BHAGYA AND KARMA ARE DIFFERENT. > > > Please clarify > > > Through some light on this point. Iam confussed. > > > Thanks > > > Dhananjay Gupta. > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > // it is clear that Bhagya has got > > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what > > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the > > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations. > > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore > > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of > > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes > > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. // > > > > > > > > Beautiful Post. > > > > Pl send above to all Forums. People should realise > > > > that " Karma " is " Pradhan " . Nothing can > > > > substitute that. Without " Karma " all " Yogas " are > > > > defunct. Marriage written for native, but if he > > > > does not sit for saath pheras, how can the > > > > marriage be performed ? Children written in > > > > destniy, but if native does not conjugate , then > > > > how children will come ? Just as in these cases > > > > God did not come down to do all this, neither > > > > " Bhagya " , because " Bhagya " is not a physical living > > > > entity, but it is just a " Promise " which can only be > > > > met with appropriate corresponding " Karma " . > > > > Sam way all great Gajkesari Yogas, Dhana Yogas, > > > > Panch mahapurusha Yogas, Rajyogas, > > > > etcetra, stand to nought > > > > if a native sits doing nothing, but just spending > > > > his time leisurely eating free food given by Parents, > > > > Uncle,or else waiting for destiny to arrive. > > > > > > > > Your post was a lovely treat to read. > > > > > > > > Good. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " S.C. Kursija " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dera members, > > > > > To day, October 12, 2007 is the beginning of Durga > > > > > Puja. The Navaratri begins. She is Maha-Shakti or > > > > > Supreme Energy. She manifests chiefly in three forms: > > > > > Maha-Saraswati, Maha-Lakshmi and Maha-Kali: Creation, > > > > > Conservation and Annihilation, i.e. Birth, Sustenance > > > > > and Death, the three faces of life. By worshiping > > > > > Durga, we worship the cycle of life. In Durga > > > > > Saptshati, the Maha-Shakti has been worshiped as " O > > > > > Mother Durga, you remove all fear of those who > > > > > remember you in trouble. You bestow all your wisdom, > > > > > compassion in your heart to those who remember you in > > > > > their happiness. You are the dispeller of poverty, > > > > > pain and fear. " > > > > > May Mother Durga bless you and remove your poverty, > > > > > pain and fear. She may grant you knowledge, wealth and > > > > > happiness. > > > > > > > > > > According to my little knowledge, the energy > > > > > represents activities, the Karma. Our sages have made > > > > > 10th house, Karma, as the most powerful Kendra among > > > > > the Kendra. The 9th house, Bhagya, is 12th to 10th, > > > > > Karma, the negation of Karma. If the lords of 10th and > > > > > 9th combined in auspicious house they produce most > > > > > powerful Raja-Yoga But it is clear that Bhagya has got > > > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what > > > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the > > > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations. > > > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore > > > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of > > > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes > > > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. > > > > > Mother Durga may guide you through the cycle of life > > > > > and bless you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > > > ______________ > > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your > > > pocket: > > > > mail, news, photos & more. > > > > > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Gupta Ji, Have u thought over his previous birth's karmas, what 5'th, 9'th, 10'th or 11'th house promises, what dasha - antardasha he is going,what planets are participitaing in it ? there should be answer ... regards, Lalit Mishra. , " gupta089 " <gupta089 wrote: > > > Dear Bhaskarji and Krishnamurthy ji > Thanks,but i do not agree with you on KARMA AND BHAGYA. > > lets take an example chart of a person who came to > me for his marriage discussion.Iam not at all > professional. He is in my relation. > D.O.B-- 21st Oct 1967 > T.O.B - 06:55 AM > P.O.B - Allahabad. > > The person has Duryoga in his horoscope that is- > Lord of 10th house is situated in the 8th house. > As you know - Person with Duryoga do not derive > the fruits of their own bodily exertion.Same is > true for him. > > He is not doing any work even at this age,neither > he is intrested.He do not have ability nor > educational qualification to do work.He can not > do cheap work because he is born in good service > class family.Family do not have any business even. > > This person does not have good thinking because > MOON is in 8th. > PLANETS are restricting him from doing any KARMA > How can such a person do any karma in his present > birth, to make future birth (Bhagya)good. > Please see his horoscope and then answer. > REGARDS > Dhananjay > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Dear members Don't hesitate to tell your opinion or thinking. No one is perfect here or anywhere, instead we are trying to find Perfect Rule or Law of Karma. Bhaskar ji had only given his opinion. And please,don't take anything for granted. Regards D.G. , Shashie Shekhar <polite_astro wrote: > > ll HARE RAM ll > Dear Bhaskar Bhai, > Ram Ram > Bhagya is not the Maya.In fact Bhagya is the result of our past good karmas that motivates us to do good karmas in the present life but if we do try to uderstand it having open eyes means with Buddhi- Vivek and the past and present good karmas can provide one ultimate destination Bhakti / Mukti.If Bhagya is Maya how can it give us good liver as you explained earlier?To think about the sum Rs.2500/- that you could not get,is neither Bhagya or Durbhagya.First,not to get and now to think about it is called in Hindi " & #2342; & #2369; & #2326; & #2325; & #2368; & #2357; & #2375; & #2342; & #2344; & #2366; " and if you become able to get such amount,that was called " & #2360; & #2369; & #2326; & #2325; & #2368; & #2357; & #2375; & #2342; & #2344; & #2366; " . Plz try to understand both are VEDNA in fact because " Sansarik sukh are Naashwan " and to help the others the main motive of human being had been secondry slightly in such case but practice of doing good karmas a natural habit blocked your way to accept the > same amount instantly that was the result of " PRAVATTI " (Habit to help others) regarding the same has been explained in " YOGA- VASHISTHA " but to think about it till now is the effect of Maya.It was not the matter of either Bhagya or Durbhagya. > What is the result of past good karmas,one can realize to read the news in Hindi news paper " Dainik Jagran " of dated 13th of Oct 2007.Two months old female baby of Sh.Krishna Nand Gupta of Town- Sirsaganj,Distt-Firojabad(UP) was died due to Pneumonia,so she was graved.Third night after the death that baby came in the dreams of her mother Sangeeta and requested her to plz keep me away from the grave because i am still alive.So very next day family members went there found her alive and fit after digging the grave.It is the result of past good karmas/Bhagya. > Few months before one well known industrialist of Delhi came to my residence with the horoscope of his son who was suffering from tumor in his back.In short i advised him to give wheat flour and sugar to ants daily but i became stunned to listen his answer, according to him he was doing the said regularly from last 28 years not only giving but also he did not eat any thing before doing the same.So all such deeds/habits make a good Bhagya but it should be done by all means as MANSAA (By heart),VAACHAA(By speaking healing words) and KARMANAA (To help others without hoping for any consideration). > As you know it is endless debate/topic and i find myself unable/uneasy to indulge in such threading because i think MANAN (To learn) is more important in comparison to place logics/arguements.God bless You. > > With all good wishes > Shashie Shekhar > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear Guptaji, > > Namaste, > > " Dridha " means strong, or determined, > or strong willed, as in " Dridha Nischay " . > Dridha is synonymous with " Bhishma " or > irrevocable or something which is bound > to occur, or happen, or " decided " . > > Example of difference between Bhagya and > Karma. > > My Bhagya gives me to eat, without having to > work for it, because of my ancestral property > and investments made by my forefathers, which > keep on giving monthly returns for sustenance. > So actually I do not have to work for basic > living. > But, if I yet work everyday,and add to the > returns already coming without my inputs > of efforts, then this work would become > worship or Karma. Over Karma, > we have a great free will given by God. > This should not be wasted, which in other > words means,that time is very precious and must > not be littered away, but put to useful use. > This was good Karma accentuating the good Bhagya. > > My Bhagya yesterday gave me a chance to earn > Rs.2500-, when I gave some predictions to > a lady who offered to deposit double this > amount, in my bank a/c., but I littered > the Bhagya away, by trying to impress her,and > asked her to wait till those predictions come > true in 3 months time, and then deposit the > Fees. This was bad karma working against > the Good Bhagya (As of now apparently). > > You may replicate the above examples with instances > from your own Life, when a Bad Bhagya was given > a right approach, while a good Bhagya was approached > wrongly.Also Good Bhagya with Good Karma, and bad > Bhagya made worser with Bad Karmas. > > Thus you may understand the working of Bhagya > and Karma. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , " gupta089 " wrote: > > > > BHASKAR JI > > NAMASKAR > > Thanks Sir, > > I know that you only,can tell answers to such types > > of questions. > > Your explaination is correct.Iam deeply thinking on > > it.Please tell me what is the meaning of the word > > " Dridha " > > Iam obliged to you.I will feel thankfull to you > > if you continue the message on Karma and Bhagya > > > > REGARDS > > Dhananjay > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Dhananjay, > > > > > > You need a Krishna to guide you. > > > I like your arguments. > > > A Planet is known as Graha, means > > > ghar mein grahanam karna (To house) > > > aur grasit karna. (In the mind-to envelope) > > > They do have their influence on our minds. > > > But only till the Dridha Destiny allows. > > > Not more than that. This is the play of Maya, > > > but only that Maya which we ourselves attract > > > through our Karmas of present or Past Births > > > > > > Bhagya is that part of Maya which we have > > > attracted , known as - Individual destiny. > > > The Dridha Karma (Strong actions), of past > > > and present Births will attract strong Results > > > ( Dridha Bhagya) evil or Good, > > > from which we can have no escape. > > > For example persons born blind,lame, or > > > who loose parents early, are all paying > > > for past evil Dridha Karmas. > > > Persons born in rich families, or born in > > > poor ones, but grow rich overnight, due > > > to Lotteries etc, persons who get good > > > looking and Loving wives, healthy bodies > > > without sickness etc. are all earning > > > through their Dridha good karmas and > > > attract Dridh Saubhagya. > > > > > > Karma is different. > > > The same people above who got good > > > loving wives, if yet ill treat their good and > > > caring wives, are now doing kukarma or > > > evil deeds. > > > The same people who are born lame but > > > open hospitals or care centres for other > > > handicapped brethren are into sukarma. > > > That is the Karma, which is in our > > > hands, and the previous one which > > > we received on our own , is our > > > Bhagya. > > > > > > The Bhagya may have given you a good Liver > > > in Your body, but through your own Karmas, you can > > > drink daily and spoil it. That is Karma. > > > The Bhagya may have given you a healthy body, but > > > you may use it to terrorise people or small > > > family members. That is Karma. > > > > > > Planets never teach or put evil ideas in our mind. > > > It is our own evil thoughts which makes us commit > > > wrong actions. Planets do not teach anyone > > > to rape, or plant Bombs and kill innocent > > > people. Planets do not teach us to eye our > > > neighbours beautiful wife, it is our own dirty mind > > > and weak sanskaar which compels us so. > > > God has given us " Discrimination > > > power " or buddhi , One may use it with > > > his own God gifted free will, in either > > > subuddhi or durbuddhi. > > > > > > The planets would only influence you till > > > the Fate written in your destiny is not met, > > > and once that is met, You are free to > > > act and do naveen Karma. > > > > > > I can continue, and I want to, but this > > > mail would become very long. > > > So lets rest now. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gupta089 " wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhaskar ji, S.C. Kursija > > > > and others > > > > Namaskar > > > > > > > > Excellent > > > > Excellent Sir, > > > > You are at the right point. > > > > Planets and stars effect our mind (Maan)by some force. > > > > Moon represent our mind. > > > > Planets create fear,terror, hesitation, attraction > > > > and many others feelings. > > > > they press us to do wrong deeds by affecting our mind. > > > > Planets create affection and hatred in the mind for > > > > others and accordingly we treat them. > > > > Planets gives us new ideas in our mind and accordingly > > > > we do work. > > > > > > > > BY MIND WE DO KARMA > > > > Now Bhagya is decided by the planets.These planets > > > > effect our mind and with this affected mind we do the Karma. > > > > Then how BHAGYA AND KARMA ARE DIFFERENT. > > > > Please clarify > > > > Through some light on this point. Iam confussed. > > > > Thanks > > > > Dhananjay Gupta. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > // it is clear that Bhagya has got > > > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what > > > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the > > > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations. > > > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore > > > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of > > > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes > > > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. // > > > > > > > > > > Beautiful Post. > > > > > Pl send above to all Forums. People should realise > > > > > that " Karma " is " Pradhan " . Nothing can > > > > > substitute that. Without " Karma " all " Yogas " are > > > > > defunct. Marriage written for native, but if he > > > > > does not sit for saath pheras, how can the > > > > > marriage be performed ? Children written in > > > > > destniy, but if native does not conjugate , then > > > > > how children will come ? Just as in these cases > > > > > God did not come down to do all this, neither > > > > > " Bhagya " , because " Bhagya " is not a physical living > > > > > entity, but it is just a " Promise " which can only be > > > > > met with appropriate corresponding " Karma " . > > > > > Sam way all great Gajkesari Yogas, Dhana Yogas, > > > > > Panch mahapurusha Yogas, Rajyogas, > > > > > etcetra, stand to nought > > > > > if a native sits doing nothing, but just spending > > > > > his time leisurely eating free food given by Parents, > > > > > Uncle,or else waiting for destiny to arrive. > > > > > > > > > > Your post was a lovely treat to read. > > > > > > > > > > Good. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " S.C. Kursija " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dera members, > > > > > > To day, October 12, 2007 is the beginning of Durga > > > > > > Puja. The Navaratri begins. She is Maha-Shakti or > > > > > > Supreme Energy. She manifests chiefly in three forms: > > > > > > Maha-Saraswati, Maha-Lakshmi and Maha-Kali: Creation, > > > > > > Conservation and Annihilation, i.e. Birth, Sustenance > > > > > > and Death, the three faces of life. By worshiping > > > > > > Durga, we worship the cycle of life. In Durga > > > > > > Saptshati, the Maha-Shakti has been worshiped as " O > > > > > > Mother Durga, you remove all fear of those who > > > > > > remember you in trouble. You bestow all your wisdom, > > > > > > compassion in your heart to those who remember you in > > > > > > their happiness. You are the dispeller of poverty, > > > > > > pain and fear. " > > > > > > May Mother Durga bless you and remove your poverty, > > > > > > pain and fear. She may grant you knowledge, wealth and > > > > > > happiness. > > > > > > > > > > > > According to my little knowledge, the energy > > > > > > represents activities, the Karma. Our sages have made > > > > > > 10th house, Karma, as the most powerful Kendra among > > > > > > the Kendra. The 9th house, Bhagya, is 12th to 10th, > > > > > > Karma, the negation of Karma. If the lords of 10th and > > > > > > 9th combined in auspicious house they produce most > > > > > > powerful Raja-Yoga But it is clear that Bhagya has got > > > > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what > > > > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the > > > > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations. > > > > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore > > > > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of > > > > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes > > > > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. > > > > > > Mother Durga may guide you through the cycle of life > > > > > > and bless you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > > > > ______________ > > > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your > > > > pocket: > > > > > mail, news, photos & more. > > > > > > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Dear Gupta ji, A state of a person 'today' is a result of the actions of that person 'yesterday'. That is all. Nothing else! That is what I believe in and I cannot not prove it to you like a scientific proposition using an experiment. I don't understand your logic! Just because this person is not in a state of mind to perform good deeds, it cannot be taken as a proof to disprove the theory of Karma! I am not sure what you are you trying to prove by giving that example. It is OK if you don't agree with my belief. And, thanks for airing your views. But, you have not stated what you believe in. Please do share. If I find value in it I will accept it. Regards, Krishna --- gupta089 <gupta089 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji and Krishnamurthy ji > Thanks,but i do not agree with you on KARMA AND BHAGYA. > > lets take an example chart of a person who came to > me for his marriage discussion.Iam not at all > professional. He is in my relation. > D.O.B-- 21st Oct 1967 > T.O.B - 06:55 AM > P.O.B - Allahabad. > > The person has Duryoga in his horoscope that is- > Lord of 10th house is situated in the 8th house. > As you know - Person with Duryoga do not derive > the fruits of their own bodily exertion.Same is > true for him. > > He is not doing any work even at this age,neither > he is intrested.He do not have ability nor > educational qualification to do work.He can not > do cheap work because he is born in good service > class family.Family do not have any business even. > > This person does not have good thinking because > MOON is in 8th. > PLANETS are restricting him from doing any KARMA > How can such a person do any karma in his present > birth, to make future birth (Bhagya)good. > Please see his horoscope and then answer. > REGARDS > Dhananjay > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 please check the mahadasa. now operating mahadasa is guru. in the young age ,operating mahadasa of mars and rahu have restricted his karma. because mars afflicting 10 house and rahu in 7 house but now for past 1 year the guru mahadasa is operating. he should have felt improvement of everyday life work. this persons life should improve slowly and steadily. what do u think? regards virat Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:59:27 PM Re: Greetings Dear Gupta ji, A state of a person 'today' is a result of the actions of that person 'yesterday'. That is all. Nothing else! That is what I believe in and I cannot not prove it to you like a scientific proposition using an experiment. I don't understand your logic! Just because this person is not in a state of mind to perform good deeds, it cannot be taken as a proof to disprove the theory of Karma! I am not sure what you are you trying to prove by giving that example. It is OK if you don't agree with my belief. And, thanks for airing your views. But, you have not stated what you believe in. Please do share. If I find value in it I will accept it. Regards, Krishna --- gupta089 <gupta089 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji and Krishnamurthy ji > Thanks,but i do not agree with you on KARMA AND BHAGYA. > > lets take an example chart of a person who came to > me for his marriage discussion.Iam not at all > professional. He is in my relation. > D.O.B-- 21st Oct 1967 > T.O.B - 06:55 AM > P.O.B - Allahabad. > > The person has Duryoga in his horoscope that is- > Lord of 10th house is situated in the 8th house. > As you know - Person with Duryoga do not derive > the fruits of their own bodily exertion.Same is > true for him. > > He is not doing any work even at this age,neither > he is intrested.He do not have ability nor > educational qualification to do work.He can not > do cheap work because he is born in good service > class family.Family do not have any business even. > > This person does not have good thinking because > MOON is in 8th. > PLANETS are restricting him from doing any KARMA > How can such a person do any karma in his present > birth, to make future birth (Bhagya)good. > Please see his horoscope and then answer. > REGARDS > Dhananjay > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Shri Krishnamurthy ji, Yes Sir, Bhagya is my own action created result. No one else is responsible for it. Not even God. Whatever earning I have made , paap or punya, is through my own actions, done out of free will granted to me, by God, which I may have used well, or misused. regards, Bhaskar. , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Good thoughts Bhaskar ji, > > > You said: > //My Bhagya gives me to eat, without having to > work for it, because of my ancestral property > and investments made by my forefathers, which > keep on giving monthly returns for sustenance. > So actually I do not have to work for basic > living.// > > Actually, this Bhagya is a result of your own past Karma that > got deposited in your Bhaghya account! > > What you seeded 'Yesterday' is what you reap 'Today' > > One does not get anything Free in this world! Every bit has to > be earned by own Karma! > > Since Bhagya (Sanchita/Prarabdha Karma) is the creation of our > own Karams from the past only our actions (Karma) of today has > the power to modify it! Nothing else, not even God can alter it! > > Regards, > Krishna > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Guptaji, > > > > Namaste, > > > > " Dridha " means strong, or determined, > > or strong willed, as in " Dridha Nischay " . > > Dridha is synonymous with " Bhishma " or > > irrevocable or something which is bound > > to occur, or happen, or " decided " . > > > > Example of difference between Bhagya and > > Karma. > > > > My Bhagya gives me to eat, without having to > > work for it, because of my ancestral property > > and investments made by my forefathers, which > > keep on giving monthly returns for sustenance. > > So actually I do not have to work for basic > > living. > > But, if I yet work everyday,and add to the > > returns already coming without my inputs > > of efforts, then this work would become > > worship or Karma. Over Karma, > > we have a great free will given by God. > > This should not be wasted, which in other > > words means,that time is very precious and must > > not be littered away, but put to useful use. > > This was good Karma accentuating the good Bhagya. > > > > My Bhagya yesterday gave me a chance to earn > > Rs.2500-, when I gave some predictions to > > a lady who offered to deposit double this > > amount, in my bank a/c., but I littered > > the Bhagya away, by trying to impress her,and > > asked her to wait till those predictions come > > true in 3 months time, and then deposit the > > Fees. This was bad karma working against > > the Good Bhagya (As of now apparently). > > > > You may replicate the above examples with instances > > from your own Life, when a Bad Bhagya was given > > a right approach, while a good Bhagya was approached > > wrongly.Also Good Bhagya with Good Karma, and bad > > Bhagya made worser with Bad Karmas. > > > > Thus you may understand the working of Bhagya > > and Karma. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , " gupta089 " <gupta089@> > > wrote: > > > > > > BHASKAR JI > > > NAMASKAR > > > Thanks Sir, > > > I know that you only,can tell answers to such types > > > of questions. > > > Your explaination is correct.Iam deeply thinking on > > > it.Please tell me what is the meaning of the word > > > " Dridha " > > > Iam obliged to you.I will feel thankfull to you > > > if you continue the message on Karma and Bhagya > > > > > > REGARDS > > > Dhananjay > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Dhananjay, > > > > > > > > You need a Krishna to guide you. > > > > I like your arguments. > > > > A Planet is known as Graha, means > > > > ghar mein grahanam karna (To house) > > > > aur grasit karna. (In the mind-to envelope) > > > > They do have their influence on our minds. > > > > But only till the Dridha Destiny allows. > > > > Not more than that. This is the play of Maya, > > > > but only that Maya which we ourselves attract > > > > through our Karmas of present or Past Births > > > > > > > > Bhagya is that part of Maya which we have > > > > attracted , known as - Individual destiny. > > > > The Dridha Karma (Strong actions), of past > > > > and present Births will attract strong Results > > > > ( Dridha Bhagya) evil or Good, > > > > from which we can have no escape. > > > > For example persons born blind,lame, or > > > > who loose parents early, are all paying > > > > for past evil Dridha Karmas. > > > > Persons born in rich families, or born in > > > > poor ones, but grow rich overnight, due > > > > to Lotteries etc, persons who get good > > > > looking and Loving wives, healthy bodies > > > > without sickness etc. are all earning > > > > through their Dridha good karmas and > > > > attract Dridh Saubhagya. > > > > > > > > Karma is different. > > > > The same people above who got good > > > > loving wives, if yet ill treat their good and > > > > caring wives, are now doing kukarma or > > > > evil deeds. > > > > The same people who are born lame but > > > > open hospitals or care centres for other > > > > handicapped brethren are into sukarma. > > > > That is the Karma, which is in our > > > > hands, and the previous one which > > > > we received on our own , is our > > > > Bhagya. > > > > > > > > The Bhagya may have given you a good Liver > > > > in Your body, but through your own Karmas, you can > > > > drink daily and spoil it. That is Karma. > > > > The Bhagya may have given you a healthy body, but > > > > you may use it to terrorise people or small > > > > family members. That is Karma. > > > > > > > > Planets never teach or put evil ideas in our mind. > > > > It is our own evil thoughts which makes us commit > > > > wrong actions. Planets do not teach anyone > > > > to rape, or plant Bombs and kill innocent > > > > people. Planets do not teach us to eye our > > > > neighbours beautiful wife, it is our own dirty mind > > > > and weak sanskaar which compels us so. > > > > God has given us " Discrimination > > > > power " or buddhi , One may use it with > > > > his own God gifted free will, in either > > > > subuddhi or durbuddhi. > > > > > > > > The planets would only influence you till > > > > the Fate written in your destiny is not met, > > > > and once that is met, You are free to > > > > act and do naveen Karma. > > > > > > > > I can continue, and I want to, but this > > > > mail would become very long. > > > > So lets rest now. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gupta089 " > > <gupta089@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar ji, S.C. Kursija > > > > > and others > > > > > Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > Excellent > > > > > Excellent Sir, > > > > > You are at the right point. > > > > > Planets and stars effect our mind (Maan)by some force. > > > > > Moon represent our mind. > > > > > Planets create fear,terror, hesitation, attraction > > > > > and many others feelings. > > > > > they press us to do wrong deeds by affecting our mind. > > > > > Planets create affection and hatred in the mind for > > > > > others and accordingly we treat them. > > > > > Planets gives us new ideas in our mind and accordingly > > > > > we do work. > > > > > > > > > > BY MIND WE DO KARMA > > > > > Now Bhagya is decided by the planets.These planets > > > > > effect our mind and with this affected mind we do the > > Karma. > > > > > Then how BHAGYA AND KARMA ARE DIFFERENT. > > > > > Please clarify > > > > > Through some light on this point. Iam confussed. > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Dhananjay Gupta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > // it is clear that Bhagya has got > > > > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what > > > > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the > > > > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations. > > > > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore > > > > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of > > > > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes > > > > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. // > > > > > > > > > > > > Beautiful Post. > > > > > > Pl send above to all Forums. People should realise > > > > > > that " Karma " is " Pradhan " . Nothing can > > > > > > substitute that. Without " Karma " all " Yogas " are > > > === message truncated === > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? 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Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Shri Shashie Bhai, Ram Ram, I see everything as Maya including Bhagya which is a part of this Maya. Maya is a temporary illusion whereas Vaikuntha is a reality. Maya is our Grandfathers and Grandmothers with whom we spent times together, but where are they now ? When we were with them, it seemed reality, but Now ? Now its memory. Therefore if we considered that as reality in' those times, then where are they now ? They do exist, but only in memory. So shall we consider those memories as reality or Maya ? Maya which seemed real those times, but now those same times converted into memory, because we cannot re-capitulate them again. Can we ? So ultimately all is Maya here, and the destiny connected to these temporary physical bodies, too is Maya. What is the reality then ? Reality is,only the consciousness of being here. Reality is only the consciousness of being a entity. Reality is only the consciousness of ones individuality. REeality is only the knowledge of being there,here or being alive. Our relatives who were there at one time, were reality. Now they are dead . So at the time they were there, we considered them as real. They are no more physically there. So what do you all the past then? Unreal ? No that too was real. But real, only in Maya. Remove the Maya, then only 2 remain. Ones Self, and the Whole being from whom one has been created. That is reality. The atma and the Parmatma. Nothing else is true in this world. regards, Bhaskar. , Shashie Shekhar <polite_astro wrote: > > ll HARE RAM ll > Dear Bhaskar Bhai, > Ram Ram > Bhagya is not the Maya.In fact Bhagya is the result of our past good karmas that motivates us to do good karmas in the present life but if we do try to uderstand it having open eyes means with Buddhi-Vivek and the past and present good karmas can provide one ultimate destination Bhakti / Mukti.If Bhagya is Maya how can it give us good liver as you explained earlier?To think about the sum Rs.2500/- that you could not get,is neither Bhagya or Durbhagya.First,not to get and now to think about it is called in Hindi " & #2342; & #2369; & #2326; & #2325; & #2368; & #2357; & #2375; & #2342; & #2344; & #2366; " and if you become able to get such amount,that was called " & #2360; & #2369; & #2326; & #2325; & #2368; & #2357; & #2375; & #2342; & #2344; & #2366; " . Plz try to understand both are VEDNA in fact because " Sansarik sukh are Naashwan " and to help the others the main motive of human being had been secondry slightly in such case but practice of doing good karmas a natural habit blocked your way to accept the > same amount instantly that was the result of " PRAVATTI " (Habit to help others) regarding the same has been explained in " YOGA-VASHISTHA " but to think about it till now is the effect of Maya.It was not the matter of either Bhagya or Durbhagya. > What is the result of past good karmas,one can realize to read the news in Hindi news paper " Dainik Jagran " of dated 13th of Oct 2007.Two months old female baby of Sh.Krishna Nand Gupta of Town-Sirsaganj,Distt-Firojabad(UP) was died due to Pneumonia,so she was graved.Third night after the death that baby came in the dreams of her mother Sangeeta and requested her to plz keep me away from the grave because i am still alive.So very next day family members went there found her alive and fit after digging the grave.It is the result of past good karmas/Bhagya. > Few months before one well known industrialist of Delhi came to my residence with the horoscope of his son who was suffering from tumor in his back.In short i advised him to give wheat flour and sugar to ants daily but i became stunned to listen his answer, according to him he was doing the said regularly from last 28 years not only giving but also he did not eat any thing before doing the same.So all such deeds/habits make a good Bhagya but it should be done by all means as MANSAA (By heart),VAACHAA(By speaking healing words) and KARMANAA (To help others without hoping for any consideration). > As you know it is endless debate/topic and i find myself unable/uneasy to indulge in such threading because i think MANAN (To learn) is more important in comparison to place logics/arguements.God bless You. > > With all good wishes > Shashie Shekhar > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear Guptaji, > > Namaste, > > " Dridha " means strong, or determined, > or strong willed, as in " Dridha Nischay " . > Dridha is synonymous with " Bhishma " or > irrevocable or something which is bound > to occur, or happen, or " decided " . > > Example of difference between Bhagya and > Karma. > > My Bhagya gives me to eat, without having to > work for it, because of my ancestral property > and investments made by my forefathers, which > keep on giving monthly returns for sustenance. > So actually I do not have to work for basic > living. > But, if I yet work everyday,and add to the > returns already coming without my inputs > of efforts, then this work would become > worship or Karma. Over Karma, > we have a great free will given by God. > This should not be wasted, which in other > words means,that time is very precious and must > not be littered away, but put to useful use. > This was good Karma accentuating the good Bhagya. > > My Bhagya yesterday gave me a chance to earn > Rs.2500-, when I gave some predictions to > a lady who offered to deposit double this > amount, in my bank a/c., but I littered > the Bhagya away, by trying to impress her,and > asked her to wait till those predictions come > true in 3 months time, and then deposit the > Fees. This was bad karma working against > the Good Bhagya (As of now apparently). > > You may replicate the above examples with instances > from your own Life, when a Bad Bhagya was given > a right approach, while a good Bhagya was approached > wrongly.Also Good Bhagya with Good Karma, and bad > Bhagya made worser with Bad Karmas. > > Thus you may understand the working of Bhagya > and Karma. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , " gupta089 " wrote: > > > > BHASKAR JI > > NAMASKAR > > Thanks Sir, > > I know that you only,can tell answers to such types > > of questions. > > Your explaination is correct.Iam deeply thinking on > > it.Please tell me what is the meaning of the word > > " Dridha " > > Iam obliged to you.I will feel thankfull to you > > if you continue the message on Karma and Bhagya > > > > REGARDS > > Dhananjay > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Dhananjay, > > > > > > You need a Krishna to guide you. > > > I like your arguments. > > > A Planet is known as Graha, means > > > ghar mein grahanam karna (To house) > > > aur grasit karna. (In the mind-to envelope) > > > They do have their influence on our minds. > > > But only till the Dridha Destiny allows. > > > Not more than that. This is the play of Maya, > > > but only that Maya which we ourselves attract > > > through our Karmas of present or Past Births > > > > > > Bhagya is that part of Maya which we have > > > attracted , known as - Individual destiny. > > > The Dridha Karma (Strong actions), of past > > > and present Births will attract strong Results > > > ( Dridha Bhagya) evil or Good, > > > from which we can have no escape. > > > For example persons born blind,lame, or > > > who loose parents early, are all paying > > > for past evil Dridha Karmas. > > > Persons born in rich families, or born in > > > poor ones, but grow rich overnight, due > > > to Lotteries etc, persons who get good > > > looking and Loving wives, healthy bodies > > > without sickness etc. are all earning > > > through their Dridha good karmas and > > > attract Dridh Saubhagya. > > > > > > Karma is different. > > > The same people above who got good > > > loving wives, if yet ill treat their good and > > > caring wives, are now doing kukarma or > > > evil deeds. > > > The same people who are born lame but > > > open hospitals or care centres for other > > > handicapped brethren are into sukarma. > > > That is the Karma, which is in our > > > hands, and the previous one which > > > we received on our own , is our > > > Bhagya. > > > > > > The Bhagya may have given you a good Liver > > > in Your body, but through your own Karmas, you can > > > drink daily and spoil it. That is Karma. > > > The Bhagya may have given you a healthy body, but > > > you may use it to terrorise people or small > > > family members. That is Karma. > > > > > > Planets never teach or put evil ideas in our mind. > > > It is our own evil thoughts which makes us commit > > > wrong actions. Planets do not teach anyone > > > to rape, or plant Bombs and kill innocent > > > people. Planets do not teach us to eye our > > > neighbours beautiful wife, it is our own dirty mind > > > and weak sanskaar which compels us so. > > > God has given us " Discrimination > > > power " or buddhi , One may use it with > > > his own God gifted free will, in either > > > subuddhi or durbuddhi. > > > > > > The planets would only influence you till > > > the Fate written in your destiny is not met, > > > and once that is met, You are free to > > > act and do naveen Karma. > > > > > > I can continue, and I want to, but this > > > mail would become very long. > > > So lets rest now. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gupta089 " wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhaskar ji, S.C. Kursija > > > > and others > > > > Namaskar > > > > > > > > Excellent > > > > Excellent Sir, > > > > You are at the right point. > > > > Planets and stars effect our mind (Maan)by some force. > > > > Moon represent our mind. > > > > Planets create fear,terror, hesitation, attraction > > > > and many others feelings. > > > > they press us to do wrong deeds by affecting our mind. > > > > Planets create affection and hatred in the mind for > > > > others and accordingly we treat them. > > > > Planets gives us new ideas in our mind and accordingly > > > > we do work. > > > > > > > > BY MIND WE DO KARMA > > > > Now Bhagya is decided by the planets.These planets > > > > effect our mind and with this affected mind we do the Karma. > > > > Then how BHAGYA AND KARMA ARE DIFFERENT. > > > > Please clarify > > > > Through some light on this point. Iam confussed. > > > > Thanks > > > > Dhananjay Gupta. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > // it is clear that Bhagya has got > > > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what > > > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the > > > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations. > > > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore > > > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of > > > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes > > > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. // > > > > > > > > > > Beautiful Post. > > > > > Pl send above to all Forums. People should realise > > > > > that " Karma " is " Pradhan " . Nothing can > > > > > substitute that. Without " Karma " all " Yogas " are > > > > > defunct. Marriage written for native, but if he > > > > > does not sit for saath pheras, how can the > > > > > marriage be performed ? Children written in > > > > > destniy, but if native does not conjugate , then > > > > > how children will come ? Just as in these cases > > > > > God did not come down to do all this, neither > > > > > " Bhagya " , because " Bhagya " is not a physical living > > > > > entity, but it is just a " Promise " which can only be > > > > > met with appropriate corresponding " Karma " . > > > > > Sam way all great Gajkesari Yogas, Dhana Yogas, > > > > > Panch mahapurusha Yogas, Rajyogas, > > > > > etcetra, stand to nought > > > > > if a native sits doing nothing, but just spending > > > > > his time leisurely eating free food given by Parents, > > > > > Uncle,or else waiting for destiny to arrive. > > > > > > > > > > Your post was a lovely treat to read. > > > > > > > > > > Good. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " S.C. Kursija " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dera members, > > > > > > To day, October 12, 2007 is the beginning of Durga > > > > > > Puja. The Navaratri begins. She is Maha-Shakti or > > > > > > Supreme Energy. She manifests chiefly in three forms: > > > > > > Maha-Saraswati, Maha-Lakshmi and Maha-Kali: Creation, > > > > > > Conservation and Annihilation, i.e. Birth, Sustenance > > > > > > and Death, the three faces of life. By worshiping > > > > > > Durga, we worship the cycle of life. In Durga > > > > > > Saptshati, the Maha-Shakti has been worshiped as " O > > > > > > Mother Durga, you remove all fear of those who > > > > > > remember you in trouble. You bestow all your wisdom, > > > > > > compassion in your heart to those who remember you in > > > > > > their happiness. You are the dispeller of poverty, > > > > > > pain and fear. " > > > > > > May Mother Durga bless you and remove your poverty, > > > > > > pain and fear. She may grant you knowledge, wealth and > > > > > > happiness. > > > > > > > > > > > > According to my little knowledge, the energy > > > > > > represents activities, the Karma. Our sages have made > > > > > > 10th house, Karma, as the most powerful Kendra among > > > > > > the Kendra. The 9th house, Bhagya, is 12th to 10th, > > > > > > Karma, the negation of Karma. If the lords of 10th and > > > > > > 9th combined in auspicious house they produce most > > > > > > powerful Raja-Yoga But it is clear that Bhagya has got > > > > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what > > > > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the > > > > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations. > > > > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore > > > > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of > > > > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes > > > > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. > > > > > > Mother Durga may guide you through the cycle of life > > > > > > and bless you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > > > > ______________ > > > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your > > > > pocket: > > > > > mail, news, photos & more. > > > > > > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 Dear Dhananjay, Examples of charts ., many can be taken. When you have already arrived at the conclusion, that this person is not interested in doing any work, then how can one help him ? When you have already decided that his bodily exertions are not going to bring any results to him, then what is the sense in suggesting him what to do ? Are we all not wasting our time, talking on his horoscope ? If all is decided already as per your dictums ? When you say he is not going to do any karma, then what is the need for us to study such a persons horoscope and waste our precious time? And you may be mistaken if you think that he is not doing Karma . Karma also means breathing. karma also means having a bath daily and eating food and excretion. Karma also means thinking- good or bad. Karma also means - his coming to you for his marriage. Exactly where do you find difference in opinion in Bhagya and Karma Theory is still unclear. Please explain exactly what you mean ? I am not going to look his horoscope because i have stopped reading for free, as per my Gurus Order.,unless it is an emergency. And 10th Lord in 8th , does not mean that he will not do any Karmas. On the contrary Karma is shown through the 8th house significations. Karma is also shown by the Planets in 10th, Navamsha Lord of 10th, Dashamsa, etc. regards, Bhaskar. , " gupta089 " <gupta089 wrote: > > > Dear Bhaskarji and Krishnamurthy ji > Thanks,but i do not agree with you on KARMA AND BHAGYA. > > lets take an example chart of a person who came to > me for his marriage discussion.Iam not at all > professional. He is in my relation. > D.O.B-- 21st Oct 1967 > T.O.B - 06:55 AM > P.O.B - Allahabad. > > The person has Duryoga in his horoscope that is- > Lord of 10th house is situated in the 8th house. > As you know - Person with Duryoga do not derive > the fruits of their own bodily exertion.Same is > true for him. > > He is not doing any work even at this age,neither > he is intrested.He do not have ability nor > educational qualification to do work.He can not > do cheap work because he is born in good service > class family.Family do not have any business even. > > This person does not have good thinking because > MOON is in 8th. > PLANETS are restricting him from doing any KARMA > How can such a person do any karma in his present > birth, to make future birth (Bhagya)good. > Please see his horoscope and then answer. > REGARDS > Dhananjay > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 More over, I do not accept to the proposition that a person is not doing any karma. We all do some karma or the other. The person may be thinking a lot; who knows? Thinking is a karma, talking is a karma; physical activities are not the only karmas we consider. In fact, he may not be doing a karma visible to others. As astrologers we cannot and should not declare that one is not doing any karma. In fact we have no right to say so. The fact that 10th lord is in the 8th house may be a duryoga with respect to materialistic gains (that too, only certain type of materialistic gains); but it indicates a myriad of other things where his destiny must be pulling him; karma related to spirituality, or philosophy, or astrology, or psychology, or any emergency service such as ambulence, or insurance industry, or hospital emergency staff, or nurse or many things. There are innumerable areas of work related to the 8th house. We should look into those areas instead of getting obsessed with the idea that he is not doing any karma. Whether the person is lazy or not, we shd also look into his 3rd house. Again, being lazy does not mean he is not doing any karma; may be he is wasting considerable portion of his lifetime, which may be driven by his karma in past live; we all have to reap the past karma results; neverthelss we may or may not improve the past karma status. At this time I do not have time to look into this horoscope, hence I just gave some pointers. Regards, Satya , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Gupta Ji, > > Have u thought over his previous birth's karmas, what 5'th, 9'th, > 10'th or 11'th house promises, what dasha - antardasha he is > going,what planets are participitaing in it ? > > there should be answer ... > > regards, > Lalit Mishra. > > , " gupta089 " <gupta089@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji and Krishnamurthy ji > > Thanks,but i do not agree with you on KARMA AND BHAGYA. > > > > lets take an example chart of a person who came to > > me for his marriage discussion.Iam not at all > > professional. He is in my relation. > > D.O.B-- 21st Oct 1967 > > T.O.B - 06:55 AM > > P.O.B - Allahabad. > > > > The person has Duryoga in his horoscope that is- > > Lord of 10th house is situated in the 8th house. > > As you know - Person with Duryoga do not derive > > the fruits of their own bodily exertion.Same is > > true for him. > > > > He is not doing any work even at this age,neither > > he is intrested.He do not have ability nor > > educational qualification to do work.He can not > > do cheap work because he is born in good service > > class family.Family do not have any business even. > > > > This person does not have good thinking because > > MOON is in 8th. > > PLANETS are restricting him from doing any KARMA > > How can such a person do any karma in his present > > birth, to make future birth (Bhagya)good. > > Please see his horoscope and then answer. > > REGARDS > > Dhananjay > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Namaskar Bhooshan Priya ji Happy DASARA to you and your family. I need your blessings too. God Bless You Pavan Kumar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Dear ramanujam, Many thanks for the greetings. Goddess Durga bless you Priya , " ramanujam_ps2003 " <ramanujam_ps2003 wrote: > > Respected Guruji,namasthe. > Please accept our heartfelt greetings on the occasion of VIJAYA DASAMI > festival.May Goddess AMBIKA shower her blessings. > Wishing you all the best. > With regards > P.S.Ramanuja charyulu > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Dear Pavan Kumar, Thank you for remembering on this day. Goddess Durga bless you My blessings are always with you Priya , " yangaldaspk " <yangaldaspk wrote: > > > Namaskar Bhooshan Priya ji > > Happy DASARA to you and your family. > > I need your blessings too. > > God Bless You > > Pavan Kumar > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Dear Virat ji and Krishnamurthy ji Sorry for the delay my internet was not working Thanks for your response Sir i agree with you.Mars and rahu dasa were really dificult for him.Guru dasa definitly will be better. As the real condition indicates i think he is not going to earn a single rupee. After watching his horoscope i thought he will get married this year in may or june in guru antardasa.But my prediction became false.Person has combination of no marriage. As saturn antardasa will not be good for him, i am worried. please assist me, i am asking he will get married or not in this life. I will continue the discussion on karma and bhagya tomorrow. Regards Dhananjay , Virat Soni <virat_soni77 wrote: > > please check the mahadasa. > > now operating mahadasa is guru. > > in the young age ,operating mahadasa of mars and rahu have restricted his karma. > because mars afflicting 10 house and rahu in 7 house > > but now for past 1 year the guru mahadasa is operating. > he should have felt improvement of everyday life work. > > this persons life should improve slowly and steadily. > > what do u think? > > regards > virat > > > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 > > Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:59:27 PM > Re: Greetings > > Dear Gupta ji, > > A state of a person 'today' is a result of the actions of that > person 'yesterday'. That is all. Nothing else! That is what I > believe in and I cannot not prove it to you like a scientific > proposition using an experiment. > > I don't understand your logic! Just because this person is not > in a state of mind to perform good deeds, it cannot be taken as > a proof to disprove the theory of Karma! I am not sure what you > are you trying to prove by giving that example. > > It is OK if you don't agree with my belief. And, thanks for > airing your views. But, you have not stated what you believe in. > Please do share. If I find value in it I will accept it. > > Regards, > Krishna > > --- gupta089 <gupta089 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji and Krishnamurthy ji > > Thanks,but i do not agree with you on KARMA AND BHAGYA. > > > > lets take an example chart of a person who came to > > me for his marriage discussion.Iam not at all > > professional. He is in my relation. > > D.O.B-- 21st Oct 1967 > > T.O.B - 06:55 AM > > P.O.B - Allahabad. > > > > The person has Duryoga in his horoscope that is- > > Lord of 10th house is situated in the 8th house. > > As you know - Person with Duryoga do not derive > > the fruits of their own bodily exertion.Same is > > true for him. > > > > He is not doing any work even at this age,neither > > he is intrested.He do not have ability nor > > educational qualification to do work.He can not > > do cheap work because he is born in good service > > class family.Family do not have any business even. > > > > This person does not have good thinking because > > MOON is in 8th. > > PLANETS are restricting him from doing any KARMA > > How can such a person do any karma in his present > > birth, to make future birth (Bhagya)good. > > Please see his horoscope and then answer. > > REGARDS > > Dhananjay > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > http://mail. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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