Guest guest Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Dear Prashan Sir, I am silent and always ready to act upon your advice but few members are deliberately publishing the thread as under: Krishnan ji ==> Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12Matter was addressed to ''krishnan dada'' with above subject. I did not make any reply. with thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra  ________________________________ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar Thu, December 24, 2009 10:56:31 PM Rising D9-Brihat Jataka-HIORARY  Misra ji change the thread that is edit the subject line when u r on a diff topic can help members who have to read or refer to such questions follow my example here see the 2 sub lines 1 Re: Krishnan ji ==> Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra- right 22/12 2. Rising D9-Brihat Jataka-HIORARY G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> Thu, December 24, 2009 9:20:50 PM Re: Krishnan ji ==> Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra- right 22/12 Dear Krishnan Sir,Probably you are the senior most astrologer in Jyotish Remedies group and expert in horary.So I want to seek your guide lines regarding -Brihat Jataka,Chapter 24,stanza 7,which states as under: " The Birth Lagna will be represented by the rising Navamsa at the " Time of the query... " I put this query because some times people do not provide their birth particulars and expect correct remedies.Is there any correct and tested rule to know birth time/ date /year of birth.Is it possible to know date /month /year of any event to verify the correctness of obtained birth particulars? Other learned members of this group are also requested to provide their valuable thoughts. With thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra ____________ _________ _________ __ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> Thu, December 24, 2009 8:46:31 AM Krishnan ji ==> Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12 Krishnan dada, Life is about feeling pleasure through serving! Serving is merely about making someone happy. Sadly, in mundane reality, often when we serve others, even selflessly, we encounter resistance and sometimes anger thrown back at us! I have always equated that with a past experience of mine. Once I was trying to wash a utensil and having just installed a kitchen tap which had three settings: normal, gentle (for vegetables), and forceful (no clue what it was about! Like most stereotypical males I tossed out the instruction manual!) -- I got a bit impatient and started out with the 'power-spray' setting. Had to turn it off right away because most of the filth landed back on me :-) There is something to be said in favour of gentleness, at least in the beginning! That is why I recommend that all infants be first subjected to the kindness of Mothers before they are ready for Fathers! ;-) RR_, , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Dada, > Moon in 2nd as dasa lord followed by a Mars in Taurus with sani vada keyu did put me into a mad race at that time. > The race that started even now contnues.enjoyed received paper planes but at the cost of galleries. > Life is 2 make merry.Holidays ahead as the Year closes and b ready for boxing day > Very Happy Christmas and a Prosperous New Year ahead to ring out the past > Holidays for Happy Union and to think and Pray of Maa > with regards > > >  > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Wed, 12/23/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > Krishnan ji ==> Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12 > > Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 9:43 PM > > >  > > > > Krishnan_dada, > > Please do not take it personally, but I am apalled! > > Not at you but your teacher, who despite being a figurative and mundane form of MA injected this atrocious thought in a little boy's head that sitting next to a plump girl is a " punishment " for being " Boys will be Boys! " > > You were too young, but perhaps missed an opportunity to 'fight' that teacher's mal-informed intention, through going beyond all that and wondering how the plump girl felt in this case! I presume she was not being punished and was not made to sit next to you because she was equally naughty! But while you were shifting in your seat and feeling sad, guilty and punished, I cannot help but wonder how " she " was feeling at that time. And, sadly, you do not know either! :-( > > Hence, perhaps, now you are stuck with catering to and caring for all these jyotish requests and caring for others! ;-) > > JEST KIDDING! I was just demonstrating what we Peanut Gallery-wallas do! This paper arrow was aimed at YOU! > > Warm Regards and Happy Holidays, Christmas and New Year! > > RR_, > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > Rohini Ji, > > yeah Ji!You are on dot 2 predict about me. > > Once I tried 2 b prankish in the school and thought I will join gallery.My class teacher has different ideas.She punished me by making me 2 sit with a girl very plump girl.As the age was to feel shy I could n't lift my head.Missed peanuts and all other paper planes.True I was not a successful prankster.i had however my own quota of enjoyment though of serious nature. > > I have interest still for peanuts ! > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > >  > > > > --- On Wed, 12/23/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Krishnan ji ==> Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12 > > > > Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 7:04 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Krishnan ji, > > > > You are a serious student (and practitioner) of astrology, you will not like it in the 'peanut gallery' This is where the naughty " udhami " and not the 'udhyami' boys collect, and throw moongphali ka chilka and paper airplanes and chalk-pieces at assorted targets, including sometimes at the teachers: ancient and modern! ;-) > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > I think the following sums up different roles of members who have interest in the group as contributors, genuine seekers to solve problems of themselves and share concern in others. > > > Moderator,contribut es for the harmonious relationships and occassion to over see that the group's objects are getting promoted with investment of his wisdom but not his involvment on day today basis as a referee in kabaddi or in kho kho(favourite Indian games) > > > Shri Promod Ji has devoted his his time for the sake of group's development and bringing the views of senior people and maintain harmony.He laboured very much to explain and convince w/o interfering in their freedom of expression.He has contributed lot for the members to voice and share their knowledge.where ever motives of members seems to inflict the health of the group,he interjected to contain the back ground noise. > > > with the following suggestions of Shri RRji and Santosh Ji,for the group defining the roles iam sure v do not have future occassions to judge who's doing what?is it right or wrong? > > > Santosh Ji,you r absolutely right " We are mature members and not kids in classroom for him to be present always with us " . > > > > > > Shri Rohini ji words " Democracy allows one to stretch their arms, fingers, fist AS FAR AS THEY WISH, but JUST SHORT OF WHERE MY NOSE BEGINS! " are always supportive to achieve a purpose in cyber net media.The opinion on " cyber jyotish " is a positive reinforcement and need certainly to be born in mind in interactions. > > > > > > > > > Ps:Dada, it is interesting to note about " peanut gallery " and the joy I feel in joining with him in this reserved? section.Iam sure it is not the label but to enjoy warmer 'walnuts " and " cashew nuts " > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > (For all counseling services) > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > >  > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/22/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12 > > > > > > Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 10:20 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kumar_ji, > > > > > > Please, never again feel it necessary to justify or explain how you moderate or what you do or what you are supposed to do! I have observed many of the individuals on the Jyotish scene and while each have their individual strengths and weaknesses and flavours, every single one is IMPORTANT and VITAL and ESSENTIAL to Jyotish on Internet! > > > > > > I realize that I am a peanut-gallery person and so some of the 'players' get angry and upset with me, but that is okay! > > > > > > Speaking for myself, I have over the years seen you devote your personal time and effort and energy, despite exigences in family or at work etc -- and mostly in a rather admirable way! > > > > > > In return, perhaps you may feel that you have not received anything back in terms of kindness or appreciation but that is not true! Your situation, if I may be so bold -- is of a person who has worked hard and is now trying to listen to the favourite music station for relaxation, for the work is not done and there is a tomorrow with its problems and what not! > > > > > > But just as the music got tuned in to, the skid-row outside became active and created the noise that sometimes drowns the music! Perhaps it is because those that are fighting out on the street are known to you and you feel compelled to intervene! > > > > > > The fault is yours! :-) > > > > > > As a moderator, you were given the right to close the window and 'ground' the trouble-makers! Democracy is not at stake because it has been defined by an earlier American President as: > > > > > > Democracy allows one to stretch their arms, fingers, fist AS FAR AS THEY WISH, but JUST SHORT OF WHERE MY NOSE BEGINS! > > > > > > The RIGHT to ANNONYMITY GRANTED BY INTERNET was not supposed to give one any special powers BUT remind one of their human responsibilities! > > > > > > It is sad that many abuse it, but do they really think NO ONE IS WATCHING OR RECORDING? > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > Santosh > > > > > > > > a good post that states v clearly what i have been saying and what all moderators do > > > > > > > > except one or two self styled ppl who claim more than they deliver and by doing it they r killing free speech, exchange of info, ideas > > > > > > > > and as said many time the subjects in discussion here is too vast and India is v rich in diversity many shades of views branches of knowlesge exist on any given subject/stream we have to share witha open mind and if we find something too uncommon, controversial surely majority members will do state their views v clearly than allow it to pass un contosted as is happening now why call members names > > > > > > > > above all PKT himself never shares info, techniques with anyone inspite of repeated requests for it escapes under some cover > > > > > > > > so if he protests that we r shielding some ppl > > > > WHICH I SAID MANYTIMES IS NOT TRUE BUT circumstantial to me not being active due to my stay in the hospital > > > > > > > > he has not seen the point in few mails already said on this > > > > > > > > anyway thanks for ur post > > > > > > > > > > > > hope he see thelight in it > > > > > > > > > > > > .- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > " santhosh@ . " <santhosh@ .> > > > > > > > > Tue, December 22, 2009 7:33:17 PM > > > > Re: Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12 > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear respected sir, > > > > The problem is you are missing a fundamental point. Moderator has no duty keep clarifying things like a teacher does in a classroom. > > > > He is an individual with other responsibilities in life too. He may choose to moderate when he feels that members are using foul language or he may interfere if an uncontrolled heated arguement is taking place. > > > > He is not being paid any salary or honerarium by the group and hence we cannot demand interference by him. > > > > We are mature members and not kids in classroom for him to be present always with us. > > > > As far as delayed mail is concerned i have seen atlease 2 posts by the moderator in general to all that he is not delaying it at his level. That is more than enough. > > > > Thanks and regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > Sent from BlackBerryÃÆ'‚® on Airtel > > > > > > > > > > > > Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ > > > > > Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:49:32 > > > > <> > > > > Re: Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12 > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > If for the reason, I am not clarifying you the theories,you are not conveying the messages to Mr.Mishra etc.then it is totally unfair because, I have already told you,you yourself developed a forum,where, only remidies can be given to remidy seeker, that's all and nothingelse. In doing so, I am overburdened with such messages,I dont have even time to discuss all such matters in details that is the reason, I have been very slow attender to other groups rather then yours and few others of this content.I have already told you in past,if the matter of discussion comes, we will discuss the theory in another forum sometime,when, I will be free ion my research based other astro activity.So, for the reason, I have only joined only few remidy seeker groups not any other group. > > > > In the above circumstances, your non-communication of mails to Mishra,who thought that I am sending the mails in a delated process, had it been promptly reported to Mishra at that moment because it was a serious discussion,, Mishra could have not charged me unnecessarily, and repeatedly, that I am sending the mails in delated process,for no fault of mine. However, I am sending numerouse messages daily and everything is promptly reported back why this partcular set of msg.is not working.However, I am doing my thingsl as per the leterally meaning of the group ie.Jyotish Remidies, but not Jyothish learning, and if you still feel inconvenient please say me clearly so that I will quit the group that time with a full clarification to all of my advise seekers happyly.But pl.do not press me to sit on detailing all the issue as I have no time to do all such, as I am busy writing books, editing, bringing it to in advanced studies etc.As regards > > > > Durgasaptasathi, I want you also advise the members like Mishra etc. to respond in brief,to the point, querry based otherwise, Jyotish remidies will one day automatically turn to Jyotish learning or vedic astrolgy etc. > > > > > > > > With best wishes, > > > > P K Tripathy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > astro <gbp_kumar > > > > > > > > > Tue, December 22, 2009 5:19:25 PM > > > > Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12 > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear PKT, Misra ji, Members > > > > > > > > a moderator/owners role is not to edit/judge ur mails or vouch for the authenticity of any material that passes thru thegroup this members can decipher themselves what is good, authentic, absurd stuff there r many such instances > > > > > > > > I am not taking sides with anyone > > > > > > > > from 15-21st been busy and more so 17-21st night my mother was in a hospital and I was the attender there so left the group unmodeated so any msg that came inbetween I have no idea if any msg has offended anyone of u, let me know can read them and comment/act on them. > > > > > > > > also from today u r also unmoderated member I normally kept this option for ppl with 100 dags of untroublesome , controversial posting > > > > > > > > in ur case U R POSTING UNSUBSTANTIATED OR UNEXPLAINED content and with enough requests pending to this effect u come up with vague questions and all standard > > > > > > > > did u live in a old diapliated house at ur birth time > > > > on narrow side road, moved to a few more such houses and now r in a main road and better house for almost all so no great logic, wisdom is VISIBLE here > > > > > > > > and surely in this list u will find 50-70ppl with such scenario so no big deal. > > > > > > > > if and when u can explain them it makes sense else it is just too much to even consider it material worth reading > > > > > > > > I am using thabove line after repeated requests to explain them has failed > > > > > > > > u cud at least upload ur theory on a paper in the file section i said u failed to do so so don't call others names > > > > > > > > and on durga saptha sathi or any other pl post ur source of info rest ppl can decide themselves, india is a vast country with vast knowldge pools so we must share them OPENLY and try to find the transmission losses if any,m errors if any and work on them than call oneanother scrap, rubbish or claim superiority on any one. > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > , Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ .....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear PKGB/Dhrendranath Mishra, > > > > > > > > > > Mr PKGB, As I have sent all quick response to Dhirendra's querry but as you have categorically written that due to your server problem, you could not post my mails, then you should have convinced that to Mr. Mishra, as I am totally write in communicating my resoponses quickly but knowingly though you thatMr.Dhirendra is charging me I was delay in my response, you are silent, this itself refklects as a grouporganiser, you are engaged in promoting wrong description to innocent learners. > > > > > Further, this is not first time, my mails are knowingly withhold particularly when I catch one of your bunch's mistakes, also in previous time only such category postings have been withhold.So, whenever any such trouble occures, you should yourself clarify the people like Dhirendra, who without knowing anything charging for my delayed responses,in which I have no fault and you have been begged excuses to me for the non posting my mail due to your mistake.So whenevr such things happens pl.clarify to the people, who charging unnecessarily, otherwise, such practices will be reflected in through out the groups, because, ore comments in any topic will be seriously reviewed as we people are known in various groups reputedly.. > > > > > > > > > > P.K.Tripathy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Mishra ji, Unfortunately you have sadly misunderstood and misinterpreted what actually happened! I think I changed the header by adding Krishnan-ji to indicate that my posting was primarily for Krishnan ji's attention. The rest of the header was left intact for past reference to the thread and not for any subversive or nefarious reasons and should not have caused any paranoia in anyone or misgivings :-) threads are pretty restrictive and do not allow sub-threading as some of the earlier giant systems such as Compuserve permitted (and encouraged). So, we must work creatively under the saturnine limitations posted by Don't agonize unnecessarily or feel persectued etc. Happy Holidays, Rohiniranjan , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > Dear Prashan Sir, I am silent and always ready to act upon your advice but few members are deliberately publishing the thread as under: > Krishnan ji ==> Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12Matter was addressed to ''krishnan dada'' with above subject. > I did not make any reply. > with thanks & regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra >  > > > > > ________________________________ > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > Thu, December 24, 2009 10:56:31 PM > Rising D9-Brihat Jataka-HIORARY > >  > > Misra ji > > change the thread that is edit the subject line when u r on a diff topic can help members who have to read or refer to such questions > > follow my example here > > see the 2 sub lines > > 1 Re: Krishnan ji ==> Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra- right 22/12 > 2. Rising D9-Brihat Jataka-HIORARY > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> > > Thu, December 24, 2009 9:20:50 PM > Re: Krishnan ji ==> Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra- right 22/12 > > Dear Krishnan Sir,Probably you are the senior most astrologer in Jyotish Remedies group and expert in horary.So I want to seek your guide lines regarding -Brihat Jataka,Chapter 24,stanza 7,which states as under: > " The Birth Lagna will be represented by the rising Navamsa at the " Time of the query... " > I put this query because some times people do not provide their birth particulars and expect correct remedies.Is there any > correct and tested rule to know birth time/ date /year of birth.Is it possible to know date /month /year of any event to > verify the correctness of obtained birth particulars? Other learned members of this group are also requested to provide > their valuable thoughts. > With thanks & regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > Thu, December 24, 2009 8:46:31 AM > Krishnan ji ==> Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12 > > Krishnan dada, > > Life is about feeling pleasure through serving! > > Serving is merely about making someone happy. Sadly, in mundane reality, often when we serve others, even selflessly, we encounter resistance and sometimes anger thrown back at us! > > I have always equated that with a past experience of mine. Once I was trying to wash a utensil and having just installed a kitchen tap which had three settings: normal, gentle (for vegetables), and forceful (no clue what it was about! Like most stereotypical males I tossed out the instruction manual!) -- I got a bit impatient and started out with the 'power-spray' setting. Had to turn it off right away because most of the filth landed back on me :-) > > There is something to be said in favour of gentleness, at least in the beginning! That is why I recommend that all infants be first subjected to the kindness of Mothers before they are ready for Fathers! ;-) > > RR_, > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dada, > > Moon in 2nd as dasa lord followed by a Mars in Taurus with sani vada keyu did put me into a mad race at that time. > > The race that started even now contnues.enjoyed received paper planes but at the cost of galleries. > > Life is 2 make merry.Holidays ahead as the Year closes and b ready for boxing day > > Very Happy Christmas and a Prosperous New Year ahead to ring out the past > > Holidays for Happy Union and to think and Pray of Maa > > with regards > > > > > >  > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > >  > > > > --- On Wed, 12/23/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Krishnan ji ==> Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12 > > > > Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 9:43 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Krishnan_dada, > > > > Please do not take it personally, but I am apalled! > > > > Not at you but your teacher, who despite being a figurative and mundane form of MA injected this atrocious thought in a little boy's head that sitting next to a plump girl is a " punishment " for being " Boys will be Boys! " > > > > You were too young, but perhaps missed an opportunity to 'fight' that teacher's mal-informed intention, through going beyond all that and wondering how the plump girl felt in this case! I presume she was not being punished and was not made to sit next to you because she was equally naughty! But while you were shifting in your seat and feeling sad, guilty and punished, I cannot help but wonder how " she " was feeling at that time. And, sadly, you do not know either! :-( > > > > Hence, perhaps, now you are stuck with catering to and caring for all these jyotish requests and caring for others! ;-) > > > > JEST KIDDING! I was just demonstrating what we Peanut Gallery-wallas do! This paper arrow was aimed at YOU! > > > > Warm Regards and Happy Holidays, Christmas and New Year! > > > > RR_, > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Rohini Ji, > > > yeah Ji!You are on dot 2 predict about me. > > > Once I tried 2 b prankish in the school and thought I will join gallery.My class teacher has different ideas.She punished me by making me 2 sit with a girl very plump girl.As the age was to feel shy I could n't lift my head.Missed peanuts and all other paper planes.True I was not a successful prankster.i had however my own quota of enjoyment though of serious nature. > > > I have interest still for peanuts ! > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > (For all counseling services) > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > >  > > > > > > --- On Wed, 12/23/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > Krishnan ji ==> Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12 > > > > > > Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 7:04 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Krishnan ji, > > > > > > You are a serious student (and practitioner) of astrology, you will not like it in the 'peanut gallery' This is where the naughty " udhami " and not the 'udhyami' boys collect, and throw moongphali ka chilka and paper airplanes and chalk-pieces at assorted targets, including sometimes at the teachers: ancient and modern! ;-) > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > I think the following sums up different roles of members who have interest in the group as contributors, genuine seekers to solve problems of themselves and share concern in others. > > > > Moderator,contribut es for the harmonious relationships and occassion to over see that the group's objects are getting promoted withÃÆ'‚ investment of his wisdom but not his involvment on day today basis as a referee in kabaddi or in kho kho(favourite Indian games) > > > > Shri Promod Ji has devoted his his time for the sake of group's development and bringing the views of senior people and maintain harmony.He laboured very much to explain and convince w/o interfering in their freedom ofÃÆ'‚ expression.He has contributed lot for the members to voice and share their knowledge.where ever motives of members seems to inflict the health of the group,he interjected to contain the back ground noise. > > > > with the following suggestions of Shri RRji and Santosh Ji,for the group defining the roles iam sure v do not have future occassions to judge who's doing what?is it right or wrong? > > > > Santosh Ji,you r absolutely right " We are mature members and not kids in classroom for him to be present always with us " . > > > > > > > > Shri Rohini ji words " Democracy allows one to stretch their arms, fingers, fist AS FAR AS THEY WISH, but JUST SHORT OF WHERE MY NOSE BEGINS! " are always supportive to achieve a purpose in cyber net media.The opinion on " cyber jyotish " is a positive reinforcement and need certainly to be born in mind in interactions.ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps:Dada, it is interesting to note about " peanut gallery " and the joy I feel in joining with him in this reserved? section.Iam sure it is not the label but to enjoy warmer 'walnuts " and " cashew nuts " > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/22/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12 > > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 10:20 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kumar_ji, > > > > > > > > Please, never again feel it necessary to justify or explain how you moderate or what you do or what you are supposed to do! I have observed many of the individuals on the Jyotish scene and while each have their individual strengths and weaknesses and flavours, every single one is IMPORTANT and VITAL and ESSENTIAL to Jyotish on Internet! > > > > > > > > I realize that I am a peanut-gallery person and so some of the 'players' get angry and upset with me, but that is okay! > > > > > > > > Speaking for myself, I have over the years seen you devote your personal time and effort and energy, despite exigences in family or at work etc -- and mostly in a rather admirable way! > > > > > > > > In return, perhaps you may feel that you have not received anything back in terms of kindness or appreciation but that is not true! Your situation, if I may be so bold -- is of a person who has worked hard and is now trying to listen to the favourite music station for relaxation, for the work is not done and there is a tomorrow with its problems and what not! > > > > > > > > But just as the music got tuned in to, the skid-row outside became active and created the noise that sometimes drowns the music! Perhaps it is because those that are fighting out on the street are known to you and you feel compelled to intervene! > > > > > > > > The fault is yours! :-) > > > > > > > > As a moderator, you were given the right to close the window and 'ground' the trouble-makers! Democracy is not at stake because it has been defined by an earlier American President as: > > > > > > > > Democracy allows one to stretch their arms, fingers, fist AS FAR AS THEY WISH, but JUST SHORT OF WHERE MY NOSE BEGINS! > > > > > > > > The RIGHT to ANNONYMITY GRANTED BY INTERNET was not supposed to give one any special powers BUT remind one of their human responsibilities! > > > > > > > > It is sad that many abuse it, but do they really think NO ONE IS WATCHING OR RECORDING? > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Santosh > > > > > > > > > > a good post that states v clearly what i have been saying and what all moderators do > > > > > > > > > > except one or two self styled ppl who claim more than they deliver and by doing it they r killing free speech, exchange of info, ideas > > > > > > > > > > and as said many time the subjects in discussion here is too vast and India is v rich in diversity many shades of views branches of knowlesge exist on any given subject/stream we have to share witha open mind and if we find something too uncommon, controversial surely majority members will do state their views v clearly than allow it to pass un contosted as is happening now why call members names > > > > > > > > > > above all PKT himself never shares info, techniques with anyone inspite of repeated requests for it escapes under some cover > > > > > > > > > > so if he protests that we r shielding some ppl > > > > > WHICH I SAID MANYTIMES IS NOT TRUE BUT circumstantial to me not being active due to my stay in the hospital > > > > > > > > > > he has not seen the point in few mails already said on this > > > > > > > > > > anyway thanks for ur post > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hope he see thelight in it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > " santhosh@ . " <santhosh@ .> > > > > > > > > > > Tue, December 22, 2009 7:33:17 PM > > > > > Re: Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear respected sir, > > > > > The problem is you are missing a fundamental point. Moderator has no duty keep clarifying things like a teacher does in a classroom. > > > > > He is an individual with other responsibilities in life too. He may choose to moderate when he feels that members are using foul language or he may interfere if an uncontrolled heated arguement is taking place. > > > > > He is not being paid any salary or honerarium by the group and hence we cannot demand interference by him. > > > > > We are mature members and not kids in classroom for him to be present always with us. > > > > > As far as delayed mail is concerned i have seen atlease 2 posts by the moderator in general to all that he is not delaying it at his level. That is more than enough. > > > > > Thanks and regards > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > Sent from BlackBerryÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚® on Airtel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ > > > > > > Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:49:32 > > > > > <> > > > > > Re: Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12 > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > If for the reason, I am not clarifying you the theories,you are not conveying the messages to Mr.Mishra etc.then it is totally unfair because, I have already told you,you yourself developed a forum,where, only remidies can be given to remidy seeker, that's all and nothingelse. In doing so, I am overburdened with such messages,I dont have even time to discuss all such matters in details that is the reason, I have been very slow attender to other groups rather then yours and few others of this content.I have already told you in past,if the matter of discussion comes, we will discuss the theory in another forum sometime,when, I will be free ion my research based other astro activity.So, for the reason, I have only joined only few remidy seeker groups not any other group. > > > > > In the above circumstances, your non-communication of mails to Mishra,who thought that I am sending the mails in a delated process, had it been promptly reported to Mishra at that moment because it was a serious discussion,, Mishra could have not charged me unnecessarily, and repeatedly, that I am sending the mails in delated process,for no fault of mine. However, I am sending numerouse messages daily and everything is promptly reported back why this partcular set of msg.is not working.However, I am doing my thingsl as per the leterally meaning of the group ie.Jyotish Remidies, but not Jyothish learning, and if you still feel inconvenient please say me clearly so that I will quit the group that time with a full clarification to all of my advise seekers happyly.But pl.do not press me to sit on detailing all the issue as I have no time to do all such, as I am busy writing books, editing, bringing it to in advanced studies etc.As regards > > > > > Durgasaptasathi, I want you also advise the members like Mishra etc. to respond in brief,to the point, querry based otherwise, Jyotish remidies will one day automatically turn to Jyotish learning or vedic astrolgy etc. > > > > > > > > > > With best wishes, > > > > > P K Tripathy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > astro <gbp_kumar > > > > > > > > > > > Tue, December 22, 2009 5:19:25 PM > > > > > Re: Attn Prashant Kumar GB/Dhirendranath Mishra-not right 22/12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear PKT, Misra ji, Members > > > > > > > > > > a moderator/owners role is not to edit/judge ur mails or vouch for the authenticity of any material that passes thru thegroup this members can decipher themselves what is good, authentic, absurd stuff there r many such instances > > > > > > > > > > I am not taking sides with anyone > > > > > > > > > > from 15-21st been busy and more so 17-21st night my mother was in a hospital and I was the attender there so left the group unmodeated so any msg that came inbetween I have no idea if any msg has offended anyone of u, let me know can read them and comment/act on them. > > > > > > > > > > also from today u r also unmoderated member I normally kept this option for ppl with 100 dags of untroublesome , controversial posting > > > > > > > > > > in ur case U R POSTING UNSUBSTANTIATED OR UNEXPLAINED content and with enough requests pending to this effect u come up with vague questions and all standard > > > > > > > > > > did u live in a old diapliated house at ur birth time > > > > > on narrow side road, moved to a few more such houses and now r in a main road and better house for almost all so no great logic, wisdom is VISIBLE here > > > > > > > > > > and surely in this list u will find 50-70ppl with such scenario so no big deal. > > > > > > > > > > if and when u can explain them it makes sense else it is just too much to even consider it material worth reading > > > > > > > > > > I am using thabove line after repeated requests to explain them has failed > > > > > > > > > > u cud at least upload ur theory on a paper in the file section i said u failed to do so so don't call others names > > > > > > > > > > and on durga saptha sathi or any other pl post ur source of info rest ppl can decide themselves, india is a vast country with vast knowldge pools so we must share them OPENLY and try to find the transmission losses if any,m errors if any and work on them than call oneanother scrap, rubbish or claim superiority on any one. > > > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > , Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ .....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear PKGB/Dhrendranath Mishra, > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr PKGB, As I have sent all quick response to Dhirendra's querry but as you have categorically written that due to your server problem, you could not post my mails, then you should have convinced that to Mr. Mishra, as I am totally write in communicating my resoponses quickly but knowingly though you thatMr.Dhirendra is charging me I was delay in my response, you are silent, this itself refklects as a grouporganiser, you are engaged in promoting wrong description to innocent learners. > > > > > > Further, this is not first time, my mails are knowingly withhold particularly when I catch one of your bunch's mistakes, also in previous time only such category postings have been withhold.So, whenever any such trouble occures, you should yourself clarify the people like Dhirendra, who without knowing anything charging for my delayed responses,in which I have no fault and you have been begged excuses to me for the non posting my mail due to your mistake.So whenevr such things happens pl.clarify to the people, who charging unnecessarily, otherwise, such practices will be reflected in through out the groups, because, ore comments in any topic will be seriously reviewed as we people are known in various groups reputedly.. > > > > > > > > > > > > P.K.Tripathy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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