should manglik girl avoid getting married?

[Guest guest]

Dear Members,

 

Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th House with no benefice

aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to avoid a disturbed marital

life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types of people even if she

marries a manglik man is married life still going to be unhappy or not?

 

Lilly

[Guest guest]

Certainly not .Girls having mars in 8th(from lagna?) probably have a good and

prosperous married life.it all dpends on how venus relates to Mars as well as

Moon.Such questions need proper dat b4 any body could opine.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Wed, 12/30/09, tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

 

 

tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005

should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:22 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Members,

 

Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th House with no benefice

aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to avoid a disturbed marital

life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types of people even if she

marries a manglik man is married life still going to be unhappy or not?

 

Lilly

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Krishnan dada,

 

I have been 'following-up' a few so called mangal dosh matches (Why do Jyotishis

turn a wonderful relationship like marriage into a SPORT, a competition - A

cricket MATCH? UPON which NATIONAL PRIDES seem to rely? Wise and ancient nations

and CULTURES! Even those that remind us:

 

" Umray Daraz maang kay laye thay Chaar Din

Do Arzoo main kat gaye Do intezaar main! "

 

The famous lines from Bahadur Shah Zaffar, the last Moghul/Persian ruler of

India, if I recall my history lessons!

 

Some day hopefully I will get all the information and permissions to write about

those, or not -- but it is not as easy and simple as is proferred on Internet or

in books and article! So glibly by those who have nary a clue, let alone the

experience!!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Certainly not .Girls having mars in 8th(from lagna?) probably have a good and

prosperous married life.it all dpends on how venus relates to Mars as well as

Moon.Such questions need proper dat b4 any body could opine.

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

[Guest guest]

Dear Lilly, 

Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate when, Mars occupies Sun's star,or his

own star,and is occupying houses I,II,IV,VII,VIII & XII (Source:

/message/15390) 

Mars Dosha is not valid in KP

Analysis of Mars Dosha as per KP principles (Doc)

Cancellation of Mars Dosha

Cancellation will happen, if

Mars is in his own signs - Aries or Scorpio

Mars in Venus signs (Taurus or Libra) in 4th or 7th house

Mars in Mercury signs (Gemini or Virgo) in 2nd house

Mars in the house owned by Sun, Moon, or Saturn

Mars in 8th house and house occupied by Mars is owned by Jupiter 

Mars Dosha Matching

1. If, in the bride's chart, there is Mars dosha; select such a bridegroom who

also has more or less similar Mars Dosha

2. If there is Mars dosha with cancellation in the bride's chart, there is

Mars dosha; select such a bridegroom who also has Mars Dosha with cancellation

3. If there is no dosha at all in the bride's chart and it is termed as Sudha

Jathakam, match it with one which has no dosha at all

Please note that the same principles are applicable to bride as well as

bridegroom match. Please make necessary adjustments. 

Other Related Doshas

The cause difference of opinion, disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among

couple is not left to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect

provided they happen to be deposited in such a positions e.g. -

1. The sublord of that planet is significator of 6 or 10 or 12. 

2. If the same sublord also signifies 2 or 7 or 11, the problem will be there

only for a short period of time.

3. The sublord of a planet is Mars and Mars is significator of 6 or 10 or 12,

there will be violence and separation

4. The sublord of a planet is Saturn, silence and remain dumb-sit and strike

5. (All above taken from: KP IV reader, Page 68, Sixth edition - June 1993)

6. You must provide correct birth particulars to determine if there is Manglic

Dosh in the chart of girl.

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005

 

Thu, December 31, 2009 7:52:31 AM

should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

 

 

 

Dear Members,

 

Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th House with no benefice

aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to avoid a disturbed marital

life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types of people even if she

marries a manglik man is married life still going to be unhappy or not?

 

Lilly

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Haan Dada!

Jyotish when thought over as a way to educate, never credence was seen.When some

body pops up " Mangal Dosh " by way of his jyotish appraoch,it is sported with

total confidence as if to win T20s with Mars provided belief.

Unfortunately,the internet approach are all half baked attempts to justify for

good and bad of the planets.

How ever v can not but salute Bahdur Shah ji and Ghalib ji,as the life they

potrayed was to over come miseries and to postive ways of the beautiful zindagi.

let me too in the following lines convey views of Mangal Dosh as percieved

Arzoo jab ubharte hai bhool jate hai smaskar

Intezar jab karne ka hota hai yaad atha hai grahon 

doodhna shuru karte hai jyotshon ke liye

Yeh mera parampara aur yeh mera vichar hai 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Wed, 12/30/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:14 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Krishnan dada,

 

I have been 'following-up' a few so called mangal dosh matches (Why do Jyotishis

turn a wonderful relationship like marriage into a SPORT, a competition - A

cricket MATCH? UPON which NATIONAL PRIDES seem to rely? Wise and ancient nations

and CULTURES! Even those that remind us:

 

" Umray Daraz maang kay laye thay Chaar Din

Do Arzoo main kat gaye Do intezaar main! "

 

The famous lines from Bahadur Shah Zaffar, the last Moghul/Persian ruler of

India, if I recall my history lessons!

 

Some day hopefully I will get all the information and permissions to write about

those, or not -- but it is not as easy and simple as is proferred on Internet or

in books and article! So glibly by those who have nary a clue, let alone the

experience!!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Certainly not .Girls having mars in 8th(from lagna?) probably have a good and

prosperous married life.it all dpends on how venus relates to Mars as well as

Moon.Such questions need proper dat b4 any body could opine.

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Tigress_Lilly,

 

Mangal_dosh, if imposed and pronounced upon a maiden from Indian culture or

subculters and who must bow-down to the wishes and decrees of HER parents and

family etc -- is pretty much done for! Unless she goes goes beyond the fences

and fences for her personal rights and it is sometimes easier if she is outside

of the " FENCES " already!

 

I get the sense from your message that this young lady is not all that desperate

to marry, no matter what! Please tell me who you are to her, how related, and

why are you asking strangers and not her -- what she wants?

 

 

RR_,

 

<PS: Tigress-Lilly as the *Indian* lore goes -- must be stronger! For SHE was

named " TIGER-LILLY " in the original tale which involved Peter Pan, Tinker Bell

AND Pixie Dust! :-)

 

 

 

, " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

>

>

> Dear Members,

>

> Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th House with no

benefice aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to avoid a

disturbed marital life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types of

people even if she marries a manglik man is married life still going to be

unhappy or not?

>

> Lilly

>

[Guest guest]

Lilly,

 

There is no such rule, it is DESIRABLE to match her case witha Mangalik in the

8th an d reap THE BENEFITS OF SUCH A MARRIAGE TO POTENTIAL if it was a man then

7 or 8 wud have been ok

 

also pl see if the dasas r around to matter to worry any other redeming/reducing

aspects, dasas can also help

 

Reciting Mangala chandika stotra helps as well

 

best wishes

 

 

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth

data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in

the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside

the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group

for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005

 

Thu, December 31, 2009 7:52:31 AM

should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

 

 

 

Dear Members,

 

Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th House with no benefice

aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to avoid a disturbed marital

life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types of people even if she

marries a manglik man is married life still going to be unhappy or not?

 

Lilly

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

 

This manglik person is obviously me of Indian origin but outside of India..

Ofcourse parents prefer I find my husband partner on my own and want me to be

happy in life single or married..Mother thinks a man should prove himself in

many ways before tying the knot but it just isn't happening in my life..So yes,

I guess I am desperate to get married..

Mars is in gemini in 8th house in mrigshira(lord mars)..By the way Manglik dosh

does not cancel in any way.

 

Lilly

 

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Dear Tigress_Lilly,

>

> Mangal_dosh, if imposed and pronounced upon a maiden from Indian culture or

subculters and who must bow-down to the wishes and decrees of HER parents and

family etc -- is pretty much done for! Unless she goes goes beyond the fences

and fences for her personal rights and it is sometimes easier if she is outside

of the " FENCES " already!

>

> I get the sense from your message that this young lady is not all that

desperate to marry, no matter what! Please tell me who you are to her, how

related, and why are you asking strangers and not her -- what she wants?

>

>

> RR_,

>

> <PS: Tigress-Lilly as the *Indian* lore goes -- must be stronger! For SHE was

named " TIGER-LILLY " in the original tale which involved Peter Pan, Tinker Bell

AND Pixie Dust! :-)

>

>

>

> , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th House with no

benefice aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to avoid a

disturbed marital life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types of

people even if she marries a manglik man is married life still going to be

unhappy or not?

> >

> > Lilly

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I do not think you are desperate enough to get married! Or 'Indian' really!

 

If you were, you would have given your full birth-data, a few events with full

dates and would have used a handle like " Jagdamba " !

 

Just to get the attention of the Jyotishis and not raise their gall!

 

Even patience has a " seema " Tiger Lilly!

 

RR_,

 

 

, " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> This manglik person is obviously me of Indian origin but outside of India..

Ofcourse parents prefer I find my husband partner on my own and want me to be

happy in life single or married..Mother thinks a man should prove himself in

many ways before tying the knot but it just isn't happening in my life..So yes,

I guess I am desperate to get married..

> Mars is in gemini in 8th house in mrigshira(lord mars)..By the way Manglik

dosh does not cancel in any way.

>

> Lilly

>

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Tigress_Lilly,

> >

> > Mangal_dosh, if imposed and pronounced upon a maiden from Indian culture or

subculters and who must bow-down to the wishes and decrees of HER parents and

family etc -- is pretty much done for! Unless she goes goes beyond the fences

and fences for her personal rights and it is sometimes easier if she is outside

of the " FENCES " already!

> >

> > I get the sense from your message that this young lady is not all that

desperate to marry, no matter what! Please tell me who you are to her, how

related, and why are you asking strangers and not her -- what she wants?

> >

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > <PS: Tigress-Lilly as the *Indian* lore goes -- must be stronger! For SHE

was named " TIGER-LILLY " in the original tale which involved Peter Pan, Tinker

Bell AND Pixie Dust! :-)

> >

> >

> >

> > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th House with no

benefice aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to avoid a

disturbed marital life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types of

people even if she marries a manglik man is married life still going to be

unhappy or not?

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Well Sir I may not as much of an " Indian " (you can blame my parents for that) as

some people on this forum but my roots are definitely Hindu/Indian.. Desperate

enough, but not at the cost loosing my sanity!!

 

Lilly

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> I do not think you are desperate enough to get married! Or 'Indian' really!

>

> If you were, you would have given your full birth-data, a few events with full

dates and would have used a handle like " Jagdamba " !

>

> Just to get the attention of the Jyotishis and not raise their gall!

>

> Even patience has a " seema " Tiger Lilly!

>

> RR_,

>

>

> , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> >

> > This manglik person is obviously me of Indian origin but outside of India..

Ofcourse parents prefer I find my husband partner on my own and want me to be

happy in life single or married..Mother thinks a man should prove himself in

many ways before tying the knot but it just isn't happening in my life..So yes,

I guess I am desperate to get married..

> > Mars is in gemini in 8th house in mrigshira(lord mars)..By the way Manglik

dosh does not cancel in any way.

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Tigress_Lilly,

> > >

> > > Mangal_dosh, if imposed and pronounced upon a maiden from Indian culture

or subculters and who must bow-down to the wishes and decrees of HER parents and

family etc -- is pretty much done for! Unless she goes goes beyond the fences

and fences for her personal rights and it is sometimes easier if she is outside

of the " FENCES " already!

> > >

> > > I get the sense from your message that this young lady is not all that

desperate to marry, no matter what! Please tell me who you are to her, how

related, and why are you asking strangers and not her -- what she wants?

> > >

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > > <PS: Tigress-Lilly as the *Indian* lore goes -- must be stronger! For SHE

was named " TIGER-LILLY " in the original tale which involved Peter Pan, Tinker

Bell AND Pixie Dust! :-)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members,

> > > >

> > > > Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th House with no

benefice aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to avoid a

disturbed marital life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types of

people even if she marries a manglik man is married life still going to be

unhappy or not?

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You did not read through the entire message, Tigress Lilly! You should have gone

on to the second sentence!

 

RR_,

 

, " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

> Well Sir I may not as much of an " Indian " (you can blame my parents for that)

as some people on this forum but my roots are definitely Hindu/Indian..

Desperate enough, but not at the cost loosing my sanity!!

>

> Lilly

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > I do not think you are desperate enough to get married! Or 'Indian' really!

> >

> > If you were, you would have given your full birth-data, a few events with

full dates and would have used a handle like " Jagdamba " !

> >

> > Just to get the attention of the Jyotishis and not raise their gall!

> >

> > Even patience has a " seema " Tiger Lilly!

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> >

> > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Sir,

> > >

> > > This manglik person is obviously me of Indian origin but outside of

India.. Ofcourse parents prefer I find my husband partner on my own and want me

to be happy in life single or married..Mother thinks a man should prove himself

in many ways before tying the knot but it just isn't happening in my life..So

yes, I guess I am desperate to get married..

> > > Mars is in gemini in 8th house in mrigshira(lord mars)..By the way Manglik

dosh does not cancel in any way.

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > >

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Tigress_Lilly,

> > > >

> > > > Mangal_dosh, if imposed and pronounced upon a maiden from Indian culture

or subculters and who must bow-down to the wishes and decrees of HER parents and

family etc -- is pretty much done for! Unless she goes goes beyond the fences

and fences for her personal rights and it is sometimes easier if she is outside

of the " FENCES " already!

> > > >

> > > > I get the sense from your message that this young lady is not all that

desperate to marry, no matter what! Please tell me who you are to her, how

related, and why are you asking strangers and not her -- what she wants?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > RR_,

> > > >

> > > > <PS: Tigress-Lilly as the *Indian* lore goes -- must be stronger! For

SHE was named " TIGER-LILLY " in the original tale which involved Peter Pan,

Tinker Bell AND Pixie Dust! :-)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th House with

no benefice aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to avoid a

disturbed marital life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types of

people even if she marries a manglik man is married life still going to be

unhappy or not?

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Lily

U should give your birth details.

I have mars in 8th in gemini as well

 

Neelum Cancer

 

--- On Thu, 12/31/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

Thursday, December 31, 2009, 4:42 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You did not read through the entire message, Tigress Lilly! You should

have gone on to the second sentence!

 

 

 

RR_,

 

 

 

, " tigresslilly2005 " <tigresslilly2005@

....> wrote:

 

>

 

> Well Sir I may not as much of an " Indian " (you can blame my parents for that)

as some people on this forum but my roots are definitely Hindu/Indian. .

Desperate enough, but not at the cost loosing my sanity!!

 

>

 

> Lilly

 

>

 

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ >

wrote:

 

> >

 

> > I do not think you are desperate enough to get married! Or 'Indian' really!

 

> >

 

> > If you were, you would have given your full birth-data, a few events with

full dates and would have used a handle like " Jagdamba " !

 

> >

 

> > Just to get the attention of the Jyotishis and not raise their gall!

 

> >

 

> > Even patience has a " seema " Tiger Lilly!

 

> >

 

> > RR_,

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > Dear Sir,

 

> > >

 

> > > This manglik person is obviously me of Indian origin but outside of

India.. Ofcourse parents prefer I find my husband partner on my own and want me

to be happy in life single or married..Mother thinks a man should prove himself

in many ways before tying the knot but it just isn't happening in my life..So

yes, I guess I am desperate to get married..

 

> > > Mars is in gemini in 8th house in mrigshira(lord mars)..By the way Manglik

dosh does not cancel in any way.

 

> > >

 

> > > Lilly

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@

> wrote:

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Dear Tigress_Lilly,

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Mangal_dosh, if imposed and pronounced upon a maiden from Indian culture

or subculters and who must bow-down to the wishes and decrees of HER parents and

family etc -- is pretty much done for! Unless she goes goes beyond the fences

and fences for her personal rights and it is sometimes easier if she is outside

of the " FENCES " already!

 

> > > >

 

> > > > I get the sense from your message that this young lady is not all that

desperate to marry, no matter what! Please tell me who you are to her, how

related, and why are you asking strangers and not her -- what she wants?

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > > RR_,

 

> > > >

 

> > > > <PS: Tigress-Lilly as the *Indian* lore goes -- must be stronger! For

SHE was named " TIGER-LILLY " in the original tale which involved Peter Pan,

Tinker Bell AND Pixie Dust! :-)

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Dear Members,

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th House with

no benefice aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to avoid a

disturbed marital life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types of

people even if she marries a manglik man is married life still going to be

unhappy or not?

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Lilly

 

> > > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Neelum Madam,

 

Sure, but there should have been enough guinea pigs already for this

experiment/theory already and we should have had results by now!!

 

My birth data: 4th March 1976 @ 12:20AM, Patna(bihar) India

 

Scorpio rising

Venus+ mercury in Capricorn 3H

Sun in Aquarius 4H

Moon in Pisces 5h

Saturn in Cancer 9H

Rahu in Libra

 

Lilly

 

 

 

, neelum cancer <neelum85 wrote:

>

> Dear Lily

> U should give your birth details.

> I have mars in 8th in gemini as well

>

> Neelum Cancer

>

> --- On Thu, 12/31/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

> Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

>

> Thursday, December 31, 2009, 4:42 AM

>

 

>

>

>

You did not read through the entire message, Tigress Lilly! You should

have gone on to the second sentence!

>

>

>

> RR_,

>

>

>

> , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Well Sir I may not as much of an " Indian " (you can blame my parents for that)

as some people on this forum but my roots are definitely Hindu/Indian. .

Desperate enough, but not at the cost loosing my sanity!!

>

> >

>

> > Lilly

>

> >

>

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ >

wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > I do not think you are desperate enough to get married! Or 'Indian'

really!

>

> > >

>

> > > If you were, you would have given your full birth-data, a few events with

full dates and would have used a handle like " Jagdamba " !

>

> > >

>

> > > Just to get the attention of the Jyotishis and not raise their gall!

>

> > >

>

> > > Even patience has a " seema " Tiger Lilly!

>

> > >

>

> > > RR_,

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Dear Sir,

>

> > > >

>

> > > > This manglik person is obviously me of Indian origin but outside of

India.. Ofcourse parents prefer I find my husband partner on my own and want me

to be happy in life single or married..Mother thinks a man should prove himself

in many ways before tying the knot but it just isn't happening in my life..So

yes, I guess I am desperate to get married..

>

> > > > Mars is in gemini in 8th house in mrigshira(lord mars)..By the way

Manglik dosh does not cancel in any way.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Lilly

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Dear Tigress_Lilly,

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Mangal_dosh, if imposed and pronounced upon a maiden from Indian

culture or subculters and who must bow-down to the wishes and decrees of HER

parents and family etc -- is pretty much done for! Unless she goes goes beyond

the fences and fences for her personal rights and it is sometimes easier if she

is outside of the " FENCES " already!

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > I get the sense from your message that this young lady is not all that

desperate to marry, no matter what! Please tell me who you are to her, how

related, and why are you asking strangers and not her -- what she wants?

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > RR_,

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > <PS: Tigress-Lilly as the *Indian* lore goes -- must be stronger! For

SHE was named " TIGER-LILLY " in the original tale which involved Peter Pan,

Tinker Bell AND Pixie Dust! :-)

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Dear Members,

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th House with

no benefice aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to avoid a

disturbed marital life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types of

people even if she marries a manglik man is married life still going to be

unhappy or not?

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Lilly

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

[Guest guest]

Lilly ,There is certainly Mars dosh as Mars is posited in 8th house from lagna

or as per k.p rules it is posited in its own Nakshatra.But there is no sign of

marital disturbance. Because sub lord of 7th cusp i.e Saturn is not posited in

dual sign and on other hand house lord of 7th cusp in natal chart and in

navamsa chart is not afflicted and in this condition no second marriage is going

to take place.Besides this you must match the horoscope with another horoscope

having similar dosha so that the effects get nullified between the couple.There

are various remedies that have been also suggested like lighting of a lamp (with

the skin of a lemon) on Tuesdays during Raahu Kaalam (approx. 3 p.m. to 4:30

p.m. local time assuming sunrise is at 6 a.m. and sunset is at 6 p.m.; if

sunrise – sunset timings differ, you should calculate the proportional part of

the day – divide the duration of day into 8 parts, and raahu kaalam on

Tuesdays will fall in the 7th

part) in honour of Durga Devi, undertaking Holy Fast on Tuesdays, propitiating

Lord Skanda (Kaartikeyaa), etc.  Apart from that a mantrik remedy is also there

in which a particular mantra is to be chanted and the native has to

circumambulate the pooja place anti-clockwise during the process.If you approach

a person who is well-read in that, they can guide you in that.  

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra

 

Thu, December 31, 2009 10:32:56 AM

Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

 

Dear Lilly, 

Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate when, Mars occupies Sun's star,or his

own star,and is occupying houses I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII (Source: http://groups.

/ group/k_p_ system/message/ 15390) 

Mars Dosha is not valid in KP

Analysis of Mars Dosha as per KP principles (Doc)

Cancellation of Mars Dosha

Cancellation will happen, if

Mars is in his own signs - Aries or Scorpio

Mars in Venus signs (Taurus or Libra) in 4th or 7th house

Mars in Mercury signs (Gemini or Virgo) in 2nd house

Mars in the house owned by Sun, Moon, or Saturn

Mars in 8th house and house occupied by Mars is owned by Jupiter 

Mars Dosha Matching

1. If, in the bride's chart, there is Mars dosha; select such a bridegroom who

also has more or less similar Mars Dosha

2. If there is Mars dosha with cancellation  in the bride's chart, there is

Mars dosha; select such a bridegroom who also has Mars Dosha with cancellation

3. If there is no dosha at all in the bride's chart and it is termed as Sudha

Jathakam, match it with one which has no dosha at all

Please note that the same principles are applicable to bride as well as

bridegroom match. Please make necessary adjustments. 

Other Related Doshas

The cause difference of opinion, disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among

couple is not left to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect

provided they happen to be deposited in such a positions e.g. -

1. The sublord of that planet is significator of 6 or 10 or 12. 

2. If the same sublord also signifies 2 or 7 or 11, the problem will be there

only for a short period of time.

3. The sublord of a planet is Mars and Mars is significator of 6 or 10 or 12,

there will be violence and  separation

4. The sublord of a planet is Saturn, silence and remain dumb- sit and strike

5. (All above taken from: KP IV reader, Page 68, Sixth edition - June 1993)

6. You must provide correct birth particulars to determine if there is Manglic

Dosh in the chart of girl.

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005@ >

 

Thu, December 31, 2009 7:52:31 AM

should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

 

 

Dear Members,

 

Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th House with no benefice

aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to avoid a disturbed marital

life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types of people even if she

marries a manglik man is married life still going to be unhappy or not?

 

Lilly

 

 

[Guest guest]

/*klim krishna klim*/

Dear Lilly,

 

If there are planets in twelfth house then this Mangalik dosha is defunct.

 

If this Mangal doesnt aspect 2H from Upapada by Rasi drsti then this

Mangalik dosha will not affect marriage fortune. There is much much more

than just 'native is mangalik'.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

SJC Jyotish Guru

--------------

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www.rohinaa.com

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/rgendarz

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*Skype: jyotraff1*/

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra pisze:

>

>

> Lilly ,There is certainly Mars dosh as Mars is posited in 8th house

> from lagna or as per k.p rules it is posited in its own Nakshatra.But

> there is no sign of marital disturbance. Because sub lord of 7th cusp

> i.e Saturn is not posited in dual sign and on other hand house lord of

> 7th cusp in natal chart and in navamsa chart is not afflicted and in

> this condition no second marriage is going to take place.Besides

> this you must match the horoscope with another horoscope having

> similar dosha so that the effects get nullified between the

> couple.There are various remedies that have been also suggested like

> lighting of a lamp (with the skin of a lemon) on Tuesdays during Raahu

> Kaalam (approx. 3 p.m. to 4:30 p.m. local time assuming sunrise is at

> 6 a.m. and sunset is at 6 p.m.; if sunrise – sunset timings differ,

> you should calculate the proportional part of the day – divide the

> duration of day into 8 parts, and raahu kaalam on Tuesdays will fall

> in the 7th

> part) in honour of Durga Devi, undertaking Holy Fast on Tuesdays,

> propitiating Lord Skanda (Kaartikeyaa) , etc. Apart from that a

> mantrik remedy is also there in which a particular mantra is to be

> chanted and the native has to circumambulate the pooja place

> anti-clockwise during the process.If you approach a person who is

> well-read in that, they can guide you in that.

> Dhirendra Nath Misra

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com

> <dhirendranathmisra%40ymail.com>>

>

> <%40>

> Thu, December 31, 2009 10:32:56 AM

> Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

>

>

> Dear Lilly,

> Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate when, Mars occupies Sun's

> star,or his own star,and is occupying houses I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII

> (Source: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15390)

> Mars Dosha is not valid in KP

> Analysis of Mars Dosha as per KP principles (Doc)

> Cancellation of Mars Dosha

> Cancellation will happen, if

> Mars is in his own signs - Aries or Scorpio

> Mars in Venus signs (Taurus or Libra) in 4th or 7th house

> Mars in Mercury signs (Gemini or Virgo) in 2nd house

> Mars in the house owned by Sun, Moon, or Saturn

> Mars in 8th house and house occupied by Mars is owned by Jupiter

> Mars Dosha Matching

> 1. If, in the bride's chart, there is Mars dosha; select such a

> bridegroom who also has more or less similar Mars Dosha

> 2. If there is Mars dosha with cancellation in the bride's chart,

> there is Mars dosha; select such a bridegroom who also has Mars Dosha

> with cancellation

> 3. If there is no dosha at all in the bride's chart and it is termed

> as Sudha Jathakam, match it with one which has no dosha at all

> Please note that the same principles are applicable to bride as well

> as bridegroom match. Please make necessary adjustments.

> Other Related Doshas

> The cause difference of opinion, disagreement, dispute, divorce etc.

> among couple is not left to Mars alone, any planet can cause such

> undesirable effect provided they happen to be deposited in such a

> positions e.g. -

> 1. The sublord of that planet is significator of 6 or 10 or 12.

> 2. If the same sublord also signifies 2 or 7 or 11, the problem will

> be there only for a short period of time.

> 3. The sublord of a planet is Mars and Mars is significator of 6 or 10

> or 12, there will be violence and separation

> 4. The sublord of a planet is Saturn, silence and remain dumb- sit and

> strike

> 5. (All above taken from: KP IV reader, Page 68, Sixth edition - June

> 1993)

> 6. You must provide correct birth particulars to determine if there is

> Manglic Dosh in the chart of girl.

> Dhirendra Nath Misra

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005@ >

>

> Thu, December 31, 2009 7:52:31 AM

> should manglik girl avoid getting married?

>

>

>

> Dear Members,

>

> Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th House with

> no benefice aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to

> avoid a disturbed marital life. Is is better to remain unmarried for

> these types of people even if she marries a manglik man is married

> life still going to be unhappy or not?

>

> Lilly

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

 

 

Mangal dosh is neither an indicator for delay, nor of denial for marriage. It

does not represent celibacy, or sexual deviations or such horrible karma that

the person should avoid marriage and stay a spinster all her life!

 

It has been observed that if a person with mangal dosh marries another without

similar dosha or planetary positions, the 'have-not' may have health issues or

in extreme cases may die before the partner that has mangal dosha. It does not

imply problems with job, wealth or other matters -- simply health!

 

Mangal dosh can be balanced by the position of saturn or mars in the other

person's chart. Best to have mars or saturn in the same house, so if mars is in

7th in one chart, the other should have a mars in the 7th house, though there

are lesser degrees of cancellations.

 

Cancellations, whether of mangal dosha or of neecha and kemdruma etc are not

light-switches and do not indicate on or off states. There are degrees of

cancellations and so on.

 

It is best to look at the pair of charts for mangal dosh and not to feed ones

phobias and fears unnecessarily, particularly when other combinations exist

which indicate a high-strung, volatile nature, given to worries and is stressed

easily!

 

Happy New Year,

 

RR_,

 

 

, " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

>

>

> Dear Members,

>

> Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th House with no

benefice aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to avoid a

disturbed marital life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types of

people even if she marries a manglik man is married life still going to be

unhappy or not?

>

> Lilly

>

[Guest guest]

Using a database with 19922 Rodden high quality birthdata (=/>A)

% widowed = 1.69159%

% widowed in mangalik charts = 1.57881%

% widowed in charts with mars and saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.72216%

% widowed in charts with saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.81884%

 

People can draw their own conclusions! :-)

 

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Haan Dada!

> Jyotish when thought over as a way to educate, never credence was seen.When

some body pops up " Mangal Dosh " by way of his jyotish appraoch,it is sported with

total confidence as if to win T20s with Mars provided belief.

> Unfortunately,the internet approach are all half baked attempts to justify for

good and bad of the planets.

> How ever v can not but salute Bahdur Shah ji and Ghalib ji,as the life they

potrayed was to over come miseries and to postive ways of the beautiful zindagi.

> let me too in the following lines convey views of Mangal Dosh as percieved

> Arzoo jab ubharte hai bhool jate hai smaskar

> Intezar jab karne ka hota hai yaad atha hai grahon 

> doodhna shuru karte hai jyotshon ke liye

> Yeh mera parampara aur yeh mera vichar hai 

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Wed, 12/30/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

> Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

>

> Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:14 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Krishnan dada,

>

> I have been 'following-up' a few so called mangal dosh matches (Why do

Jyotishis turn a wonderful relationship like marriage into a SPORT, a

competition - A cricket MATCH? UPON which NATIONAL PRIDES seem to rely? Wise and

ancient nations and CULTURES! Even those that remind us:

>

> " Umray Daraz maang kay laye thay Chaar Din

> Do Arzoo main kat gaye Do intezaar main! "

>

> The famous lines from Bahadur Shah Zaffar, the last Moghul/Persian ruler of

India, if I recall my history lessons!

>

> Some day hopefully I will get all the information and permissions to write

about those, or not -- but it is not as easy and simple as is proferred on

Internet or in books and article! So glibly by those who have nary a clue, let

alone the experience!!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > Certainly not .Girls having mars in 8th(from lagna?) probably have a good

and prosperous married life.it all dpends on how venus relates to Mars as well

as Moon.Such questions need proper dat b4 any body could opine.

> >

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan

>

>

>

>

>

 

[Guest guest]

Firmly believe that the undersatnding of Mangal Dosh hence forth will help in

realtionship.The long representations and the lack of appreciation of the

behaviours of planets.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Thu, 12/31/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

Thursday, December 31, 2009, 7:31 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear All,

 

Mangal dosh is neither an indicator for delay, nor of denial for marriage. It

does not represent celibacy, or sexual deviations or such horrible karma that

the person should avoid marriage and stay a spinster all her life!

 

It has been observed that if a person with mangal dosh marries another without

similar dosha or planetary positions, the 'have-not' may have health issues or

in extreme cases may die before the partner that has mangal dosha. It does not

imply problems with job, wealth or other matters -- simply health!

 

Mangal dosh can be balanced by the position of saturn or mars in the other

person's chart. Best to have mars or saturn in the same house, so if mars is in

7th in one chart, the other should have a mars in the 7th house, though there

are lesser degrees of cancellations.

 

Cancellations, whether of mangal dosha or of neecha and kemdruma etc are not

light-switches and do not indicate on or off states. There are degrees of

cancellations and so on.

 

It is best to look at the pair of charts for mangal dosh and not to feed ones

phobias and fears unnecessarily, particularly when other combinations exist

which indicate a high-strung, volatile nature, given to worries and is stressed

easily!

 

Happy New Year,

 

RR_,

 

, " tigresslilly2005 " <tigresslilly2005@

....> wrote:

>

>

>

> Dear Members,

>

> Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th House with no

benefice aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to avoid a

disturbed marital life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types of

people even if she marries a manglik man is married life still going to be

unhappy or not?

>

> Lilly

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Actually you are wrong!! a manglik girl can get married!!

But in your case, according to KP system, the manglik dosh is cancelled as it is

found in its enemy sign that is gemini.

 

From the lal kitab, there are remedies for people having mars in 8th:

Take meals in the kitchen

Wear silver chain.

 

You can try these remedies as you are in jupiter antardasha and jupiter is

moving towards mars from transit!!

 

As someone has say, a manglik girl should marry a guy who has same dosha that is

manglik or some one with same affliction with saturn???can someone please be

more specific!!! In what position saturn should be placed to cancel the mars

dosha in 8th house??

 

 

 

 

--- On Thu, 12/31/09, tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

 

tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005

Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

Thursday, December 31, 2009, 6:55 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Neelum Madam,

 

 

 

Sure, but there should have been enough guinea pigs already for this

experiment/theory already and we should have had results by now!!

 

 

 

My birth data: 4th March 1976 @ 12:20AM, Patna(bihar) India

 

 

 

Scorpio rising

 

Venus+ mercury in Capricorn 3H

 

Sun in Aquarius 4H

 

Moon in Pisces 5h

 

Saturn in Cancer 9H

 

Rahu in Libra

 

 

 

Lilly

 

 

 

, neelum cancer <neelum85@.. .> wrote:

 

>

 

> Dear Lily

 

> U should give your birth details.

 

> I have mars in 8th in gemini as well

 

>

 

> Neelum Cancer

 

>

 

> --- On Thu, 12/31/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

 

>

 

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

 

> Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

>

 

> Thursday, December 31, 2009, 4:42 AM

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Â

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> You did not read through the entire message, Tigress Lilly! You should

have gone on to the second sentence!

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> RR_,

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Well Sir I may not as much of an " Indian " (you can blame my parents for that)

as some people on this forum but my roots are definitely Hindu/Indian. .

Desperate enough, but not at the cost loosing my sanity!!

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Lilly

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ >

wrote:

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > > I do not think you are desperate enough to get married! Or 'Indian'

really!

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > > If you were, you would have given your full birth-data, a few events with

full dates and would have used a handle like " Jagdamba " !

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > > Just to get the attention of the Jyotishis and not raise their gall!

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > > Even patience has a " seema " Tiger Lilly!

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > > RR_,

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > > > Dear Sir,

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > > > This manglik person is obviously me of Indian origin but outside of

India.. Ofcourse parents prefer I find my husband partner on my own and want me

to be happy in life single or married..Mother thinks a man should prove himself

in many ways before tying the knot but it just isn't happening in my life..So

yes, I guess I am desperate to get married..

 

>

 

> > > > Mars is in gemini in 8th house in mrigshira(lord mars)..By the way

Manglik dosh does not cancel in any way.

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > > > Lilly

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > Dear Tigress_Lilly,

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > Mangal_dosh, if imposed and pronounced upon a maiden from Indian

culture or subculters and who must bow-down to the wishes and decrees of HER

parents and family etc -- is pretty much done for! Unless she goes goes beyond

the fences and fences for her personal rights and it is sometimes easier if she

is outside of the " FENCES " already!

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > I get the sense from your message that this young lady is not all that

desperate to marry, no matter what! Please tell me who you are to her, how

related, and why are you asking strangers and not her -- what she wants?

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > RR_,

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > <PS: Tigress-Lilly as the *Indian* lore goes -- must be stronger! For

SHE was named " TIGER-LILLY " in the original tale which involved Peter Pan,

Tinker Bell AND Pixie Dust! :-)

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

 

>

 

> > > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > > Dear Members,

 

>

 

> > > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > > Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th House with

no benefice aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to avoid a

disturbed marital life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types of

people even if she marries a manglik man is married life still going to be

unhappy or not?

 

>

 

> > > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > > Lilly

 

>

 

> > > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

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[Guest guest]

Neelum ji

1.Manglik dosha effect if any would have it's impact till attainment of 29 year

in the case of girls.

2.In case if malefics like ,saturn,mars considered as malefic planets,it is

always advisable to marry with girl/boy with similar configuration of evil

planets.Papa samaya parihara doash.Like 2 evils make positive sense.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Fri, 1/1/10, neelum cancer <neelum85 wrote:

 

 

neelum cancer <neelum85

Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

Friday, January 1, 2010, 1:48 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually you are wrong!! a manglik girl can get married!!

But in your case, according to KP system, the manglik dosh is cancelled as it is

found in its enemy sign that is gemini.

 

From the lal kitab, there are remedies for people having mars in 8th:

Take meals in the kitchen

Wear silver chain.

 

You can try these remedies as you are in jupiter antardasha and jupiter is

moving towards mars from transit!!

 

As someone has say, a manglik girl should marry a guy who has same dosha that is

manglik or some one with same affliction with saturn???can someone please be

more specific!!! In what position saturn should be placed to cancel the mars

dosha in 8th house??

 

--- On Thu, 12/31/09, tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

 

tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005@ >

Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

Thursday, December 31, 2009, 6:55 AM

 

 

 

Dear Neelum Madam,

 

Sure, but there should have been enough guinea pigs already for this

experiment/theory already and we should have had results by now!!

 

My birth data: 4th March 1976 @ 12:20AM, Patna(bihar) India

 

Scorpio rising

 

Venus+ mercury in Capricorn 3H

 

Sun in Aquarius 4H

 

Moon in Pisces 5h

 

Saturn in Cancer 9H

 

Rahu in Libra

 

Lilly

 

, neelum cancer <neelum85@.. .> wrote:

 

>

 

> Dear Lily

 

> U should give your birth details.

 

> I have mars in 8th in gemini as well

 

>

 

> Neelum Cancer

 

>

 

> --- On Thu, 12/31/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

 

>

 

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

 

> Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

>

 

> Thursday, December 31, 2009, 4:42 AM

 

>

 

>

 

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> Â

 

>

 

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>

 

> You did not read through the entire message, Tigress Lilly! You should have

gone on to the second sentence!

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> RR_,

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Well Sir I may not as much of an " Indian " (you can blame my parents for that)

as some people on this forum but my roots are definitely Hindu/Indian.. .

Desperate enough, but not at the cost loosing my sanity!!

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Lilly

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ >

wrote:

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > > I do not think you are desperate enough to get married! Or 'Indian'

really!

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > > If you were, you would have given your full birth-data, a few events with

full dates and would have used a handle like " Jagdamba " !

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > > Just to get the attention of the Jyotishis and not raise their gall!

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > > Even patience has a " seema " Tiger Lilly!

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > > RR_,

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > > > Dear Sir,

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > > > This manglik person is obviously me of Indian origin but outside of

India.. Ofcourse parents prefer I find my husband partner on my own and want me

to be happy in life single or married..Mother thinks a man should prove himself

in many ways before tying the knot but it just isn't happening in my life..So

yes, I guess I am desperate to get married..

 

>

 

> > > > Mars is in gemini in 8th house in mrigshira(lord mars)..By the way

Manglik dosh does not cancel in any way.

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > > > Lilly

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > Dear Tigress_Lilly,

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > Mangal_dosh, if imposed and pronounced upon a maiden from Indian

culture or subculters and who must bow-down to the wishes and decrees of HER

parents and family etc -- is pretty much done for! Unless she goes goes beyond

the fences and fences for her personal rights and it is sometimes easier if she

is outside of the " FENCES " already!

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > I get the sense from your message that this young lady is not all that

desperate to marry, no matter what! Please tell me who you are to her, how

related, and why are you asking strangers and not her -- what she wants?

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > RR_,

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > <PS: Tigress-Lilly as the *Indian* lore goes -- must be stronger! For

SHE was named " TIGER-LILLY " in the original tale which involved Peter Pan,

Tinker Bell AND Pixie Dust! :-)

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

 

>

 

> > > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > > Dear Members,

 

>

 

> > > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > > Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th House with

no benefice aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to avoid a

disturbed marital life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types of

people even if she marries a manglik man is married life still going to be

unhappy or not?

 

>

 

> > > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > > Lilly

 

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[Guest guest]

Namaste

Vattem Krishnan

I have a question.

Therefore, some one who has mars in 8th house,can marry someone whose saturn in

5th,8th or 12th as in these houses saturn is not good??

 

--- On Thu, 12/31/09, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

 

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

Thursday, December 31, 2009, 10:55 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Neelum ji

 

1.Manglik dosha effect if any would have it's impact till attainment of 29 year

in the case of girls.

 

2.In case if malefics like ,saturn,mars considered as malefic planets,it is

always advisable to marry with girl/boy with similar configuration of evil

planets.Papa samaya parihara doash.Like 2 evils make positive sense.

 

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

 

Cyber Jyotish Services

 

(For all counseling services)

 

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

 

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 1/1/10, neelum cancer <neelum85 > wrote:

 

 

 

neelum cancer <neelum85 >

 

Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

 

 

Friday, January 1, 2010, 1:48 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually you are wrong!! a manglik girl can get married!!

 

But in your case, according to KP system, the manglik dosh is cancelled as it is

found in its enemy sign that is gemini.

 

 

 

From the lal kitab, there are remedies for people having mars in 8th:

 

Take meals in the kitchen

 

Wear silver chain.

 

 

 

You can try these remedies as you are in jupiter antardasha and jupiter is

moving towards mars from transit!!

 

 

 

As someone has say, a manglik girl should marry a guy who has same dosha that is

manglik or some one with same affliction with saturn???can someone please be

more specific!!! In what position saturn should be placed to cancel the mars

dosha in 8th house??

 

 

 

--- On Thu, 12/31/09, tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

 

 

 

tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005@ >

 

Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

 

 

Thursday, December 31, 2009, 6:55 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Neelum Madam,

 

 

 

Sure, but there should have been enough guinea pigs already for this

experiment/theory already and we should have had results by now!!

 

 

 

My birth data: 4th March 1976 @ 12:20AM, Patna(bihar) India

 

 

 

Scorpio rising

 

 

 

Venus+ mercury in Capricorn 3H

 

 

 

Sun in Aquarius 4H

 

 

 

Moon in Pisces 5h

 

 

 

Saturn in Cancer 9H

 

 

 

Rahu in Libra

 

 

 

Lilly

 

 

 

, neelum cancer <neelum85@.. .> wrote:

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> Dear Lily

 

 

 

> U should give your birth details.

 

 

 

> I have mars in 8th in gemini as well

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> Neelum Cancer

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> --- On Thu, 12/31/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

 

 

 

> Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> Thursday, December 31, 2009, 4:42 AM

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

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> You did not read through the entire message, Tigress Lilly! You should have

gone on to the second sentence!

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> RR_,

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > Well Sir I may not as much of an " Indian " (you can blame my parents for that)

as some people on this forum but my roots are definitely Hindu/Indian. . .

Desperate enough, but not at the cost loosing my sanity!!

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > Lilly

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ >

wrote:

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > I do not think you are desperate enough to get married! Or 'Indian'

really!

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > If you were, you would have given your full birth-data, a few events with

full dates and would have used a handle like " Jagdamba " !

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > Just to get the attention of the Jyotishis and not raise their gall!

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > Even patience has a " seema " Tiger Lilly!

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > RR_,

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > Dear Sir,

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > This manglik person is obviously me of Indian origin but outside of

India.. Ofcourse parents prefer I find my husband partner on my own and want me

to be happy in life single or married..Mother thinks a man should prove himself

in many ways before tying the knot but it just isn't happening in my life..So

yes, I guess I am desperate to get married..

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > Mars is in gemini in 8th house in mrigshira(lord mars)..By the way

Manglik dosh does not cancel in any way.

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > Lilly

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > > Dear Tigress_Lilly,

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > > Mangal_dosh, if imposed and pronounced upon a maiden from Indian

culture or subculters and who must bow-down to the wishes and decrees of HER

parents and family etc -- is pretty much done for! Unless she goes goes beyond

the fences and fences for her personal rights and it is sometimes easier if she

is outside of the " FENCES " already!

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > > I get the sense from your message that this young lady is not all that

desperate to marry, no matter what! Please tell me who you are to her, how

related, and why are you asking strangers and not her -- what she wants?

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > > RR_,

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > > <PS: Tigress-Lilly as the *Indian* lore goes -- must be stronger! For

SHE was named " TIGER-LILLY " in the original tale which involved Peter Pan,

Tinker Bell AND Pixie Dust! :-)

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > > > Dear Members,

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > > > Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th House with

no benefice aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to avoid a

disturbed marital life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types of

people even if she marries a manglik man is married life still going to be

unhappy or not?

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > > > Lilly

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > > >

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> > > > >

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Neelu ji,

Immediate aanswer is yes.Even for that rahu,too can be substituted for malefic

nature.v need also consider nature of sign in which malefic r loacted.Like for

ex:Saturn in simha may make the native in 8th make him very saddistic.like 12th

H having taurus.never he/she can be relied upon his emotions.The matching

aspecte provides for all types of doshas some way out.IN 95% instances,marriages

r never denied on one or two grounds of kuja dosha etc.

 As v know saturn in 8th as ayush karaka is good.in 12th it may land him into

bad habbits.in 5th as poorva punya,it is fine but may not have good education.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Fri, 1/1/10, neelum cancer <neelum85 wrote:

 

 

neelum cancer <neelum85

Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

Friday, January 1, 2010, 2:06 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Namaste

Vattem Krishnan

I have a question.

Therefore, some one who has mars in 8th house,can marry someone whose saturn in

5th,8th or 12th as in these houses saturn is not good??

 

--- On Thu, 12/31/09, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > wrote:

 

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

Thursday, December 31, 2009, 10:55 PM

 

 

 

Neelum ji

 

1.Manglik dosha effect if any would have it's impact till attainment of 29 year

in the case of girls.

 

2.In case if malefics like ,saturn,mars considered as malefic planets,it is

always advisable to marry with girl/boy with similar configuration of evil

planets.Papa samaya parihara doash.Like 2 evils make positive sense.

 

Vattem Krishnan

 

Cyber Jyotish Services

 

(For all counseling services)

 

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

 

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

--- On Fri, 1/1/10, neelum cancer <neelum85 > wrote:

 

neelum cancer <neelum85 >

 

Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

 

 

Friday, January 1, 2010, 1:48 AM

 

Actually you are wrong!! a manglik girl can get married!!

 

But in your case, according to KP system, the manglik dosh is cancelled as it is

found in its enemy sign that is gemini.

 

From the lal kitab, there are remedies for people having mars in 8th:

 

Take meals in the kitchen

 

Wear silver chain.

 

You can try these remedies as you are in jupiter antardasha and jupiter is

moving towards mars from transit!!

 

As someone has say, a manglik girl should marry a guy who has same dosha that is

manglik or some one with same affliction with saturn???can someone please be

more specific!!! In what position saturn should be placed to cancel the mars

dosha in 8th house??

 

--- On Thu, 12/31/09, tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

 

tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005@ >

 

Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

 

 

Thursday, December 31, 2009, 6:55 AM

 

Dear Neelum Madam,

 

Sure, but there should have been enough guinea pigs already for this

experiment/theory already and we should have had results by now!!

 

My birth data: 4th March 1976 @ 12:20AM, Patna(bihar) India

 

Scorpio rising

 

Venus+ mercury in Capricorn 3H

 

Sun in Aquarius 4H

 

Moon in Pisces 5h

 

Saturn in Cancer 9H

 

Rahu in Libra

 

Lilly

 

, neelum cancer <neelum85@.. .> wrote:

 

>

 

> Dear Lily

 

> U should give your birth details.

 

> I have mars in 8th in gemini as well

 

>

 

> Neelum Cancer

 

>

 

> --- On Thu, 12/31/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

 

>

 

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

 

> Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

>

 

> Thursday, December 31, 2009, 4:42 AM

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Â

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> You did not read through the entire message, Tigress Lilly! You should have

gone on to the second sentence!

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> RR_,

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Well Sir I may not as much of an " Indian " (you can blame my parents for that)

as some people on this forum but my roots are definitely Hindu/Indian.. . .

Desperate enough, but not at the cost loosing my sanity!!

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Lilly

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ >

wrote:

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > > I do not think you are desperate enough to get married! Or 'Indian'

really!

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > > If you were, you would have given your full birth-data, a few events with

full dates and would have used a handle like " Jagdamba " !

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > > Just to get the attention of the Jyotishis and not raise their gall!

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > > Even patience has a " seema " Tiger Lilly!

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > > RR_,

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > > > Dear Sir,

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > > > This manglik person is obviously me of Indian origin but outside of

India.. Ofcourse parents prefer I find my husband partner on my own and want me

to be happy in life single or married..Mother thinks a man should prove himself

in many ways before tying the knot but it just isn't happening in my life..So

yes, I guess I am desperate to get married..

 

>

 

> > > > Mars is in gemini in 8th house in mrigshira(lord mars)..By the way

Manglik dosh does not cancel in any way.

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > > > Lilly

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > Dear Tigress_Lilly,

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > Mangal_dosh, if imposed and pronounced upon a maiden from Indian

culture or subculters and who must bow-down to the wishes and decrees of HER

parents and family etc -- is pretty much done for! Unless she goes goes beyond

the fences and fences for her personal rights and it is sometimes easier if she

is outside of the " FENCES " already!

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > I get the sense from your message that this young lady is not all that

desperate to marry, no matter what! Please tell me who you are to her, how

related, and why are you asking strangers and not her -- what she wants?

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > RR_,

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > <PS: Tigress-Lilly as the *Indian* lore goes -- must be stronger! For

SHE was named " TIGER-LILLY " in the original tale which involved Peter Pan,

Tinker Bell AND Pixie Dust! :-)

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

 

>

 

> > > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > > Dear Members,

 

>

 

> > > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > > Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th House with

no benefice aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to avoid a

disturbed marital life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types of

people even if she marries a manglik man is married life still going to be

unhappy or not?

 

>

 

> > > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > > Lilly

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear All,

 

Papa Samya means = Equalising the malefic influence. This is mainly to

equalise the Tatwas of planets so that they will not oppose each other but

work as a barrier. for example Agni Tatwa should be matched (oposed) by Agni

tatwa and not by Vayu tatwa. This is because Vayu can flare up Agi and so also

vayu could expand by heat and be dangerous.

 

So if a female chart has Mars in the 8th house, The male chart should have

mars or Sun in the 7th house (not 8th). This is because 8th of Female is her

mangalya sthana - life of her husband. But 8th of Male is his nidhana sthana.

So if there is mars in the 8th of Male that automaticaly affects his life span.

 

Rahu & ketu are considered half malefic 

 

In general Malefic influence in the male chart could be slightly higher

than female - not too much.

 

I have explained these concepts several times on this forum. It would be

better if old messages are read before going through the same discussion again

and again. 

 A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

________________________________

neelum cancer <neelum85

 

Fri, January 1, 2010 12:36:15 PM

Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

 

Namaste

Vattem Krishnan

I have a question.

Therefore, some one who has mars in 8th house,can marry someone whose saturn in

5th,8th or 12th as in these houses saturn is not good??

 

--- On Thu, 12/31/09, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > wrote:

 

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

Thursday, December 31, 2009, 10:55 PM

 

 

 

Neelum ji

 

1.Manglik dosha effect if any would have it's impact till attainment of 29 year

in the case of girls.

 

2.In case if malefics like ,saturn,mars considered as malefic planets,it is

always advisable to marry with girl/boy with similar configuration of evil

planets.Papa samaya parihara doash.Like 2 evils make positive sense.

 

Vattem Krishnan

 

Cyber Jyotish Services

 

(For all counseling services)

 

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

 

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

--- On Fri, 1/1/10, neelum cancer <neelum85 > wrote:

 

neelum cancer <neelum85 >

 

Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

 

 

Friday, January 1, 2010, 1:48 AM

 

Actually you are wrong!! a manglik girl can get married!!

 

But in your case, according to KP system, the manglik dosh is cancelled as it is

found in its enemy sign that is gemini.

 

From the lal kitab, there are remedies for people having mars in 8th:

 

Take meals in the kitchen

 

Wear silver chain.

 

You can try these remedies as you are in jupiter antardasha and jupiter is

moving towards mars from transit!!

 

As someone has say, a manglik girl should marry a guy who has same dosha that is

manglik or some one with same affliction with saturn???can someone please be

more specific!!! In what position saturn should be placed to cancel the mars

dosha in 8th house??

 

--- On Thu, 12/31/09, tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

 

tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005@ >

 

Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

 

 

Thursday, December 31, 2009, 6:55 AM

 

Dear Neelum Madam,

 

Sure, but there should have been enough guinea pigs already for this

experiment/theory already and we should have had results by now!!

 

My birth data: 4th March 1976 @ 12:20AM, Patna(bihar) India

 

Scorpio rising

 

Venus+ mercury in Capricorn 3H

 

Sun in Aquarius 4H

 

Moon in Pisces 5h

 

Saturn in Cancer 9H

 

Rahu in Libra

 

Lilly

 

, neelum cancer <neelum85@.. .> wrote:

 

>

 

> Dear Lily

 

> U should give your birth details.

 

> I have mars in 8th in gemini as well

 

>

 

> Neelum Cancer

 

>

 

> --- On Thu, 12/31/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

 

>

 

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

 

> Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

 

>

 

> Thursday, December 31, 2009, 4:42 AM

 

>

 

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>

 

> You did not read through the entire message, Tigress Lilly! You should have

gone on to the second sentence!

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> RR_,

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Well Sir I may not as much of an " Indian " (you can blame my parents for that)

as some people on this forum but my roots are definitely Hindu/Indian. . .

Desperate enough, but not at the cost loosing my sanity!!

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Lilly

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ >

wrote:

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > > I do not think you are desperate enough to get married! Or 'Indian'

really!

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > > If you were, you would have given your full birth-data, a few events with

full dates and would have used a handle like " Jagdamba " !

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > > Just to get the attention of the Jyotishis and not raise their gall!

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > > Even patience has a " seema " Tiger Lilly!

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > > RR_,

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > >

 

>

 

> > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > > > Dear Sir,

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > > > This manglik person is obviously me of Indian origin but outside of

India.. Ofcourse parents prefer I find my husband partner on my own and want me

to be happy in life single or married..Mother thinks a man should prove himself

in many ways before tying the knot but it just isn't happening in my life..So

yes, I guess I am desperate to get married..

 

>

 

> > > > Mars is in gemini in 8th house in mrigshira(lord mars)..By the way

Manglik dosh does not cancel in any way.

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > > > Lilly

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > > >

 

>

 

> > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > Dear Tigress_Lilly,

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > Mangal_dosh, if imposed and pronounced upon a maiden from Indian

culture or subculters and who must bow-down to the wishes and decrees of HER

parents and family etc -- is pretty much done for! Unless she goes goes beyond

the fences and fences for her personal rights and it is sometimes easier if she

is outside of the " FENCES " already!

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > I get the sense from your message that this young lady is not all that

desperate to marry, no matter what! Please tell me who you are to her, how

related, and why are you asking strangers and not her -- what she wants?

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > RR_,

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > <PS: Tigress-Lilly as the *Indian* lore goes -- must be stronger! For

SHE was named " TIGER-LILLY " in the original tale which involved Peter Pan,

Tinker Bell AND Pixie Dust! :-)

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

 

>

 

> > > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > > Dear Members,

 

>

 

> > > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > > Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th House with

no benefice aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to avoid a

disturbed marital life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types of

people even if she marries a manglik man is married life still going to be

unhappy or not?

 

>

 

> > > > > >

 

>

 

> > > > > > Lilly

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Members,

 

Thank you all for your advice..You know I don't get to cherry pick and check the

guy's horoscope before I fall in love with him..So if the guy is not a manglik,

I don't plan to UN-fall in love with him anytime soon...

I have started this new year with both my feet firmly planted on earth and my

spirit are as " high " as the mountain..Nothing is going to hold me back this

year not even the stars..I have flushed out all the toxins from my body, and my

spirit so lets hope there is more mangal in jungle this year.

 

Lilly

 

 

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag

wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> Papa Samya means = Equalising the malefic influence. This is mainly to

equalise the Tatwas of planets so that they will not oppose each other but

work as a barrier. for example Agni Tatwa should be matched (oposed) by Agni

tatwa and not by Vayu tatwa. This is because Vayu can flare up Agi and so also

vayu could expand by heat and be dangerous.

>

> So if a female chart has Mars in the 8th house, The male chart should have

mars or Sun in the 7th house (not 8th). This is because 8th of Female is her

mangalya sthana - life of her husband. But 8th of Male is his nidhana sthana.

So if there is mars in the 8th of Male that automaticaly affects his life span.

>

> Rahu & ketu are considered half malefic 

>

> In general Malefic influence in the male chart could be slightly higher

than female - not too much.

>

> I have explained these concepts several times on this forum. It would be

better if old messages are read before going through the same discussion again

and again. 

>  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> neelum cancer <neelum85

>

> Fri, January 1, 2010 12:36:15 PM

> Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

>

>  

> Namaste

> Vattem Krishnan

> I have a question.

> Therefore, some one who has mars in 8th house,can marry someone whose saturn

in 5th,8th or 12th as in these houses saturn is not good??

>

> --- On Thu, 12/31/09, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > wrote:

>

> Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

> Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

>

> Thursday, December 31, 2009, 10:55 PM

>

>  

>

> Neelum ji

>

> 1.Manglik dosha effect if any would have it's impact till attainment of 29

year in the case of girls.

>

> 2.In case if malefics like ,saturn,mars considered as malefic planets,it is

always advisable to marry with girl/boy with similar configuration of evil

planets.Papa samaya parihara doash.Like 2 evils make positive sense.

>

> Vattem Krishnan

>

> Cyber Jyotish Services

>

> (For all counseling services)

>

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

>

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>

> --- On Fri, 1/1/10, neelum cancer <neelum85 > wrote:

>

> neelum cancer <neelum85 >

>

> Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

>

>

>

> Friday, January 1, 2010, 1:48 AM

>

> Actually you are wrong!! a manglik girl can get married!!

>

> But in your case, according to KP system, the manglik dosh is cancelled as it

is found in its enemy sign that is gemini.

>

> From the lal kitab, there are remedies for people having mars in 8th:

>

> Take meals in the kitchen

>

> Wear silver chain.

>

> You can try these remedies as you are in jupiter antardasha and jupiter is

moving towards mars from transit!!

>

> As someone has say, a manglik girl should marry a guy who has same dosha that

is manglik or some one with same affliction with saturn???can someone please be

more specific!!! In what position saturn should be placed to cancel the mars

dosha in 8th house??

>

> --- On Thu, 12/31/09, tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

>

> tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005@ >

>

> Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

>

>

>

> Thursday, December 31, 2009, 6:55 AM

>

> Dear Neelum Madam,

>

> Sure, but there should have been enough guinea pigs already for this

experiment/theory already and we should have had results by now!!

>

> My birth data: 4th March 1976 @ 12:20AM, Patna(bihar) India

>

> Scorpio rising

>

> Venus+ mercury in Capricorn 3H

>

> Sun in Aquarius 4H

>

> Moon in Pisces 5h

>

> Saturn in Cancer 9H

>

> Rahu in Libra

>

> Lilly

>

> , neelum cancer <neelum85@ .> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Dear Lily

>

> > U should give your birth details.

>

> > I have mars in 8th in gemini as well

>

> >

>

> > Neelum Cancer

>

> >

>

> > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

>

> > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

>

> >

>

> > Thursday, December 31, 2009, 4:42 AM

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> > You did not read through the entire message, Tigress Lilly! You should have

gone on to the second sentence!

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > RR_,

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Well Sir I may not as much of an " Indian " (you can blame my parents for

that) as some people on this forum but my roots are definitely Hindu/Indian. . .

Desperate enough, but not at the cost loosing my sanity!!

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Lilly

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@

> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > I do not think you are desperate enough to get married! Or 'Indian'

really!

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > If you were, you would have given your full birth-data, a few events

with full dates and would have used a handle like " Jagdamba " !

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > Just to get the attention of the Jyotishis and not raise their gall!

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > Even patience has a " seema " Tiger Lilly!

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > RR_,

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

>

> >

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>

> >

>

> > > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > > Dear Sir,

>

> >

>

> > > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > > This manglik person is obviously me of Indian origin but outside of

India.. Ofcourse parents prefer I find my husband partner on my own and want me

to be happy in life single or married..Mother thinks a man should prove himself

in many ways before tying the knot but it just isn't happening in my life..So

yes, I guess I am desperate to get married..

>

> >

>

> > > > > Mars is in gemini in 8th house in mrigshira(lord mars)..By the way

Manglik dosh does not cancel in any way.

>

> >

>

> > > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > > Lilly

>

> >

>

> > > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

>

> >

>

> > > > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > > > Dear Tigress_Lilly,

>

> >

>

> > > > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > > > Mangal_dosh, if imposed and pronounced upon a maiden from Indian

culture or subculters and who must bow-down to the wishes and decrees of HER

parents and family etc -- is pretty much done for! Unless she goes goes beyond

the fences and fences for her personal rights and it is sometimes easier if she

is outside of the " FENCES " already!

>

> >

>

> > > > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > > > I get the sense from your message that this young lady is not all

that desperate to marry, no matter what! Please tell me who you are to her, how

related, and why are you asking strangers and not her -- what she wants?

>

> >

>

> > > > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > > > RR_,

>

> >

>

> > > > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > > > <PS: Tigress-Lilly as the *Indian* lore goes -- must be stronger!

For SHE was named " TIGER-LILLY " in the original tale which involved Peter Pan,

Tinker Bell AND Pixie Dust! :-)

>

> >

>

> > > > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

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> > > > > > > Dear Members,

>

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> > > > > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > > > > Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th House

with no benefice aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to avoid a

disturbed marital life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types of

people even if she marries a manglik man is married life still going to be

unhappy or not?

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Lilly,

 

The most important thing is for one to plant their feed (metaphorically

speaking) on the ground and then to take life as it comes. Astrological

pronouncements and what not are for those who must for one reason or another use

the more traditional method of arranged marriage which was something that was

tried in all cultures although limited to fewer places on earth. Where

love-marriages becomes the determinant, I think it is not wise to then bring in

astrology in deciding. Naturally, this would create conflict, anguish and may

even introduced such wrinkles that the relationship could get affected and even

poisoned dur to mental uncertainty and so on. Although I think and have said so

that human beings are meant to exercise free-will, yet at the same time I

sincerely believe that marriage (none, one or many) do perhaps have a strong

destined component to them, and so do child-births and perhaps the parents and

siblings we get to enjoy (or suffer! ;-)).

 

Now there is love and there is love and then there is lust. If the feet are

planted firmly on the ground and both partners are sensible and truly in love,

there is certainly a Grace that arrives with that beautiful bond that though

manifested and realized on this earth is anything but earthly! Let the heart be

the guide, because either way (positive or negative) it represents a karmic

lesson.

 

Of course, being an ordinary person, I could be all wrong about my perspective

stated above and hopefully am not misleading you.

 

However, love is a communication and must not become a state of miscommunication

-- which obsession is. I have seen a few cases where what was considered as love

turned out to be an obsession and created much anguish and pain in the life of

both individuals. But then again, that did show up in the chart (never got to

see the other person's chart) and so perhaps was how the karmic drama was

supposed to play out.

 

Whether it is mangal dosh or a bad melapak match which is based on limited

factors -- should not become the driver! The adage that comes to mind is:

" Putting all the eggs in one frail basket! "

 

Neither of you had a freedom of choice when you both fell in love! So,

hopefully, you realize that a power greater than either or both of you was at

work! You have tried the astrological approach and it did not work for you,

either way. Perhaps something within you wanted to test your firmness of intent

this way and looks like for now the score is Love:1 Jyotish:0!

 

That sounds like a good 'match'! Won't you agree?

 

May God Bless You!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " tigresslilly2005 "

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> Dear Members,

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> Thank you all for your advice..You know I don't get to cherry pick and check

the guy's horoscope before I fall in love with him..So if the guy is not a

manglik, I don't plan to UN-fall in love with him anytime soon...

> I have started this new year with both my feet firmly planted on earth and my

spirit are as " high " as the mountain..Nothing is going to hold me back this

year not even the stars..I have flushed out all the toxins from my body, and my

spirit so lets hope there is more mangal in jungle this year.

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> Lilly

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> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@>

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> > Dear All,

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> > Papa Samya means = Equalising the malefic influence. This is mainly to

equalise the Tatwas of planets so that they will not oppose each other but

work as a barrier. for example Agni Tatwa should be matched (oposed) by Agni

tatwa and not by Vayu tatwa. This is because Vayu can flare up Agi and so also

vayu could expand by heat and be dangerous.

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> > So if a female chart has Mars in the 8th house, The male chart should have

mars or Sun in the 7th house (not 8th). This is because 8th of Female is her

mangalya sthana - life of her husband. But 8th of Male is his nidhana sthana.

So if there is mars in the 8th of Male that automaticaly affects his life span.

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> > Rahu & ketu are considered half malefic 

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> > In general Malefic influence in the male chart could be slightly higher

than female - not too much.

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> > I have explained these concepts several times on this forum. It would be

better if old messages are read before going through the same discussion again

and again. 

> >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

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> > neelum cancer <neelum85@>

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> > Fri, January 1, 2010 12:36:15 PM

> > Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

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> > Namaste

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > I have a question.

> > Therefore, some one who has mars in 8th house,can marry someone whose saturn

in 5th,8th or 12th as in these houses saturn is not good??

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> > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > wrote:

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> > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

> > Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

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> > Thursday, December 31, 2009, 10:55 PM

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> > Neelum ji

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> > 1.Manglik dosha effect if any would have it's impact till attainment of 29

year in the case of girls.

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> > 2.In case if malefics like ,saturn,mars considered as malefic planets,it is

always advisable to marry with girl/boy with similar configuration of evil

planets.Papa samaya parihara doash.Like 2 evils make positive sense.

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> > Vattem Krishnan

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> > Cyber Jyotish Services

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> > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

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> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

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> > --- On Fri, 1/1/10, neelum cancer <neelum85 > wrote:

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> > Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

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> > Friday, January 1, 2010, 1:48 AM

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> > Actually you are wrong!! a manglik girl can get married!!

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> > But in your case, according to KP system, the manglik dosh is cancelled as

it is found in its enemy sign that is gemini.

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> > From the lal kitab, there are remedies for people having mars in 8th:

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> > Take meals in the kitchen

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> > You can try these remedies as you are in jupiter antardasha and jupiter is

moving towards mars from transit!!

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> > As someone has say, a manglik girl should marry a guy who has same dosha

that is manglik or some one with same affliction with saturn???can someone

please be more specific!!! In what position saturn should be placed to cancel

the mars dosha in 8th house??

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> > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

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> > tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005@ >

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> > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

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> > Thursday, December 31, 2009, 6:55 AM

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> > Dear Neelum Madam,

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> > Sure, but there should have been enough guinea pigs already for this

experiment/theory already and we should have had results by now!!

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> > My birth data: 4th March 1976 @ 12:20AM, Patna(bihar) India

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> > > U should give your birth details.

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> > > I have mars in 8th in gemini as well

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> > > > Well Sir I may not as much of an " Indian " (you can blame my parents for

that) as some people on this forum but my roots are definitely Hindu/Indian. . .

Desperate enough, but not at the cost loosing my sanity!!

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> > > > > If you were, you would have given your full birth-data, a few events

with full dates and would have used a handle like " Jagdamba " !

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> > > > > > This manglik person is obviously me of Indian origin but outside of

India.. Ofcourse parents prefer I find my husband partner on my own and want me

to be happy in life single or married..Mother thinks a man should prove himself

in many ways before tying the knot but it just isn't happening in my life..So

yes, I guess I am desperate to get married..

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Manglik dosh does not cancel in any way.

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> > > > > > > Mangal_dosh, if imposed and pronounced upon a maiden from Indian

culture or subculters and who must bow-down to the wishes and decrees of HER

parents and family etc -- is pretty much done for! Unless she goes goes beyond

the fences and fences for her personal rights and it is sometimes easier if she

is outside of the " FENCES " already!

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that desperate to marry, no matter what! Please tell me who you are to her, how

related, and why are you asking strangers and not her -- what she wants?

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For SHE was named " TIGER-LILLY " in the original tale which involved Peter Pan,

Tinker Bell AND Pixie Dust! :-)

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with no benefice aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to avoid a

disturbed marital life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types of

people even if she marries a manglik man is married life still going to be

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