should manglik girl avoid getting married?

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I am not really sure if it's love, lust, obsession, destiny, or if we will ever

get married, but whatever it is I am enjoying every moment of this blissful

feeling..It is this very moment that I am sure of and it is just feels right.

Lilly

 

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Dear Lilly,

>

> The most important thing is for one to plant their feed (metaphorically

speaking) on the ground and then to take life as it comes. Astrological

pronouncements and what not are for those who must for one reason or another use

the more traditional method of arranged marriage which was something that was

tried in all cultures although limited to fewer places on earth. Where

love-marriages becomes the determinant, I think it is not wise to then bring in

astrology in deciding. Naturally, this would create conflict, anguish and may

even introduced such wrinkles that the relationship could get affected and even

poisoned dur to mental uncertainty and so on. Although I think and have said so

that human beings are meant to exercise free-will, yet at the same time I

sincerely believe that marriage (none, one or many) do perhaps have a strong

destined component to them, and so do child-births and perhaps the parents and

siblings we get to enjoy (or suffer! ;-)).

>

> Now there is love and there is love and then there is lust. If the feet are

planted firmly on the ground and both partners are sensible and truly in love,

there is certainly a Grace that arrives with that beautiful bond that though

manifested and realized on this earth is anything but earthly! Let the heart be

the guide, because either way (positive or negative) it represents a karmic

lesson.

>

> Of course, being an ordinary person, I could be all wrong about my perspective

stated above and hopefully am not misleading you.

>

> However, love is a communication and must not become a state of

miscommunication -- which obsession is. I have seen a few cases where what was

considered as love turned out to be an obsession and created much anguish and

pain in the life of both individuals. But then again, that did show up in the

chart (never got to see the other person's chart) and so perhaps was how the

karmic drama was supposed to play out.

>

> Whether it is mangal dosh or a bad melapak match which is based on limited

factors -- should not become the driver! The adage that comes to mind is:

" Putting all the eggs in one frail basket! "

>

> Neither of you had a freedom of choice when you both fell in love! So,

hopefully, you realize that a power greater than either or both of you was at

work! You have tried the astrological approach and it did not work for you,

either way. Perhaps something within you wanted to test your firmness of intent

this way and looks like for now the score is Love:1 Jyotish:0!

>

> That sounds like a good 'match'! Won't you agree?

>

> May God Bless You!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > Thank you all for your advice..You know I don't get to cherry pick and check

the guy's horoscope before I fall in love with him..So if the guy is not a

manglik, I don't plan to UN-fall in love with him anytime soon...

> > I have started this new year with both my feet firmly planted on earth and

my spirit are as " high " as the mountain..Nothing is going to hold me back this

year not even the stars..I have flushed out all the toxins from my body, and my

spirit so lets hope there is more mangal in jungle this year.

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > Papa Samya means = Equalising the malefic influence. This is mainly to

equalise the Tatwas of planets so that they will not oppose each other but

work as a barrier. for example Agni Tatwa should be matched (oposed) by Agni

tatwa and not by Vayu tatwa. This is because Vayu can flare up Agi and so also

vayu could expand by heat and be dangerous.

> > >

> > > So if a female chart has Mars in the 8th house, The male chart should have

mars or Sun in the 7th house (not 8th). This is because 8th of Female is her

mangalya sthana - life of her husband. But 8th of Male is his nidhana sthana.

So if there is mars in the 8th of Male that automaticaly affects his life span.

> > >

> > > Rahu & ketu are considered half malefic 

> > >

> > > In general Malefic influence in the male chart could be slightly higher

than female - not too much.

> > >

> > > I have explained these concepts several times on this forum. It would

be better if old messages are read before going through the same discussion

again and again. 

> > >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > neelum cancer <neelum85@>

> > >

> > > Fri, January 1, 2010 12:36:15 PM

> > > Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

> > >

> > >  

> > > Namaste

> > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > I have a question.

> > > Therefore, some one who has mars in 8th house,can marry someone whose

saturn in 5th,8th or 12th as in these houses saturn is not good??

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > wrote:

> > >

> > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

> > > Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

> > >

> > > Thursday, December 31, 2009, 10:55 PM

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > Neelum ji

> > >

> > > 1.Manglik dosha effect if any would have it's impact till attainment of 29

year in the case of girls.

> > >

> > > 2.In case if malefics like ,saturn,mars considered as malefic planets,it

is always advisable to marry with girl/boy with similar configuration of evil

planets.Papa samaya parihara doash.Like 2 evils make positive sense.

> > >

> > > Vattem Krishnan

> > >

> > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > >

> > > (For all counseling services)

> > >

> > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > >

> > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > >

> > > --- On Fri, 1/1/10, neelum cancer <neelum85 > wrote:

> > >

> > > neelum cancer <neelum85 >

> > >

> > > Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Friday, January 1, 2010, 1:48 AM

> > >

> > > Actually you are wrong!! a manglik girl can get married!!

> > >

> > > But in your case, according to KP system, the manglik dosh is cancelled as

it is found in its enemy sign that is gemini.

> > >

> > > From the lal kitab, there are remedies for people having mars in 8th:

> > >

> > > Take meals in the kitchen

> > >

> > > Wear silver chain.

> > >

> > > You can try these remedies as you are in jupiter antardasha and jupiter is

moving towards mars from transit!!

> > >

> > > As someone has say, a manglik girl should marry a guy who has same dosha

that is manglik or some one with same affliction with saturn???can someone

please be more specific!!! In what position saturn should be placed to cancel

the mars dosha in 8th house??

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005@ >

wrote:

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> > > tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005@ >

> > >

> > > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Thursday, December 31, 2009, 6:55 AM

> > >

> > > Dear Neelum Madam,

> > >

> > > Sure, but there should have been enough guinea pigs already for this

experiment/theory already and we should have had results by now!!

> > >

> > > My birth data: 4th March 1976 @ 12:20AM, Patna(bihar) India

> > >

> > > Scorpio rising

> > >

> > > Venus+ mercury in Capricorn 3H

> > >

> > > Sun in Aquarius 4H

> > >

> > > Moon in Pisces 5h

> > >

> > > Saturn in Cancer 9H

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> > > Rahu in Libra

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > > , neelum cancer <neelum85@ .>

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> > > > Dear Lily

> > >

> > > > U should give your birth details.

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> > > > I have mars in 8th in gemini as well

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> > > > Neelum Cancer

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> > > > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

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> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

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> > > > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

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> > > > You did not read through the entire message, Tigress Lilly! You should

have gone on to the second sentence!

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> > > > RR_,

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> > > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

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> > > > > Well Sir I may not as much of an " Indian " (you can blame my parents for

that) as some people on this forum but my roots are definitely Hindu/Indian. . .

Desperate enough, but not at the cost loosing my sanity!!

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> > > > > Lilly

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> > > > > > I do not think you are desperate enough to get married! Or 'Indian'

really!

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> > > > > > If you were, you would have given your full birth-data, a few events

with full dates and would have used a handle like " Jagdamba " !

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> > > > > > Just to get the attention of the Jyotishis and not raise their gall!

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> > > > > > Even patience has a " seema " Tiger Lilly!

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> > > > > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

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> > > > > > > Dear Sir,

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> > > > > > > This manglik person is obviously me of Indian origin but outside

of India.. Ofcourse parents prefer I find my husband partner on my own and want

me to be happy in life single or married..Mother thinks a man should prove

himself in many ways before tying the knot but it just isn't happening in my

life..So yes, I guess I am desperate to get married..

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> > > > > > > Mars is in gemini in 8th house in mrigshira(lord mars)..By the way

Manglik dosh does not cancel in any way.

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> > > > > > > > Dear Tigress_Lilly,

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> > > > > > > > Mangal_dosh, if imposed and pronounced upon a maiden from Indian

culture or subculters and who must bow-down to the wishes and decrees of HER

parents and family etc -- is pretty much done for! Unless she goes goes beyond

the fences and fences for her personal rights and it is sometimes easier if she

is outside of the " FENCES " already!

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> > > > > > > > I get the sense from your message that this young lady is not

all that desperate to marry, no matter what! Please tell me who you are to her,

how related, and why are you asking strangers and not her -- what she wants?

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> > > > > > > > <PS: Tigress-Lilly as the *Indian* lore goes -- must be

stronger! For SHE was named " TIGER-LILLY " in the original tale which involved

Peter Pan, Tinker Bell AND Pixie Dust! :-)

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> > > > > > > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

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> > > > > > > > > Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th

House with no benefice aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to

avoid a disturbed marital life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types

of people even if she marries a manglik man is married life still going to be

unhappy or not?

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[Guest guest]

Dear Lilly_ji,

 

Please let me make something clear :-)

What I wrote was general and not at all specifically addressed at you, or your

beau. I have not seen your horoscopes so, what I said was not astrological with

you or both of you in mind!

 

Just some observations that I felt I must share with all on this thread. Perhaps

something on the thread may have triggered my response, but that is where it

became general!

 

Good luck and godspeed!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

>

> I am not really sure if it's love, lust, obsession, destiny, or if we will

ever get married, but whatever it is I am enjoying every moment of this blissful

feeling..It is this very moment that I am sure of and it is just feels right.

> Lilly

>

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lilly,

> >

> > The most important thing is for one to plant their feed (metaphorically

speaking) on the ground and then to take life as it comes. Astrological

pronouncements and what not are for those who must for one reason or another use

the more traditional method of arranged marriage which was something that was

tried in all cultures although limited to fewer places on earth. Where

love-marriages becomes the determinant, I think it is not wise to then bring in

astrology in deciding. Naturally, this would create conflict, anguish and may

even introduced such wrinkles that the relationship could get affected and even

poisoned dur to mental uncertainty and so on. Although I think and have said so

that human beings are meant to exercise free-will, yet at the same time I

sincerely believe that marriage (none, one or many) do perhaps have a strong

destined component to them, and so do child-births and perhaps the parents and

siblings we get to enjoy (or suffer! ;-)).

> >

> > Now there is love and there is love and then there is lust. If the feet are

planted firmly on the ground and both partners are sensible and truly in love,

there is certainly a Grace that arrives with that beautiful bond that though

manifested and realized on this earth is anything but earthly! Let the heart be

the guide, because either way (positive or negative) it represents a karmic

lesson.

> >

> > Of course, being an ordinary person, I could be all wrong about my

perspective stated above and hopefully am not misleading you.

> >

> > However, love is a communication and must not become a state of

miscommunication -- which obsession is. I have seen a few cases where what was

considered as love turned out to be an obsession and created much anguish and

pain in the life of both individuals. But then again, that did show up in the

chart (never got to see the other person's chart) and so perhaps was how the

karmic drama was supposed to play out.

> >

> > Whether it is mangal dosh or a bad melapak match which is based on limited

factors -- should not become the driver! The adage that comes to mind is:

" Putting all the eggs in one frail basket! "

> >

> > Neither of you had a freedom of choice when you both fell in love! So,

hopefully, you realize that a power greater than either or both of you was at

work! You have tried the astrological approach and it did not work for you,

either way. Perhaps something within you wanted to test your firmness of intent

this way and looks like for now the score is Love:1 Jyotish:0!

> >

> > That sounds like a good 'match'! Won't you agree?

> >

> > May God Bless You!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > Thank you all for your advice..You know I don't get to cherry pick and

check the guy's horoscope before I fall in love with him..So if the guy is not a

manglik, I don't plan to UN-fall in love with him anytime soon...

> > > I have started this new year with both my feet firmly planted on earth and

my spirit are as " high " as the mountain..Nothing is going to hold me back this

year not even the stars..I have flushed out all the toxins from my body, and my

spirit so lets hope there is more mangal in jungle this year.

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > > Papa Samya means = Equalising the malefic influence. This is mainly to

equalise the Tatwas of planets so that they will not oppose each other but

work as a barrier. for example Agni Tatwa should be matched (oposed) by Agni

tatwa and not by Vayu tatwa. This is because Vayu can flare up Agi and so also

vayu could expand by heat and be dangerous.

> > > >

> > > > So if a female chart has Mars in the 8th house, The male chart should

have mars or Sun in the 7th house (not 8th). This is because 8th of Female

is her mangalya sthana - life of her husband. But 8th of Male is his nidhana

sthana. So if there is mars in the 8th of Male that automaticaly affects his

life span.

> > > >

> > > > Rahu & ketu are considered half malefic 

> > > >

> > > > In general Malefic influence in the male chart could be slightly higher

than female - not too much.

> > > >

> > > > I have explained these concepts several times on this forum. It would

be better if old messages are read before going through the same discussion

again and again. 

> > > >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > neelum cancer <neelum85@>

> > > >

> > > > Fri, January 1, 2010 12:36:15 PM

> > > > Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > > Namaste

> > > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > > I have a question.

> > > > Therefore, some one who has mars in 8th house,can marry someone whose

saturn in 5th,8th or 12th as in these houses saturn is not good??

> > > >

> > > > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

> > > > Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, December 31, 2009, 10:55 PM

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > > Neelum ji

> > > >

> > > > 1.Manglik dosha effect if any would have it's impact till attainment of

29 year in the case of girls.

> > > >

> > > > 2.In case if malefics like ,saturn,mars considered as malefic planets,it

is always advisable to marry with girl/boy with similar configuration of evil

planets.Papa samaya parihara doash.Like 2 evils make positive sense.

> > > >

> > > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > >

> > > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > >

> > > > (For all counseling services)

> > > >

> > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > > >

> > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > > >

> > > > --- On Fri, 1/1/10, neelum cancer <neelum85 > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > neelum cancer <neelum85 >

> > > >

> > > > Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Friday, January 1, 2010, 1:48 AM

> > > >

> > > > Actually you are wrong!! a manglik girl can get married!!

> > > >

> > > > But in your case, according to KP system, the manglik dosh is cancelled

as it is found in its enemy sign that is gemini.

> > > >

> > > > From the lal kitab, there are remedies for people having mars in 8th:

> > > >

> > > > Take meals in the kitchen

> > > >

> > > > Wear silver chain.

> > > >

> > > > You can try these remedies as you are in jupiter antardasha and jupiter

is moving towards mars from transit!!

> > > >

> > > > As someone has say, a manglik girl should marry a guy who has same dosha

that is manglik or some one with same affliction with saturn???can someone

please be more specific!!! In what position saturn should be placed to cancel

the mars dosha in 8th house??

> > > >

> > > > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005@ >

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005@ >

> > > >

> > > > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, December 31, 2009, 6:55 AM

> > > >

> > > > Dear Neelum Madam,

> > > >

> > > > Sure, but there should have been enough guinea pigs already for this

experiment/theory already and we should have had results by now!!

> > > >

> > > > My birth data: 4th March 1976 @ 12:20AM, Patna(bihar) India

> > > >

> > > > Scorpio rising

> > > >

> > > > Venus+ mercury in Capricorn 3H

> > > >

> > > > Sun in Aquarius 4H

> > > >

> > > > Moon in Pisces 5h

> > > >

> > > > Saturn in Cancer 9H

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> > > > Rahu in Libra

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> > > > Lilly

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> > > > , neelum cancer <neelum85@ .>

wrote:

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> > > > > Dear Lily

> > > >

> > > > > U should give your birth details.

> > > >

> > > > > I have mars in 8th in gemini as well

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Neelum Cancer

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> > > >

> > > > > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

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> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

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> > > > > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

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> > > > > Thursday, December 31, 2009, 4:42 AM

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> > > > > You did not read through the entire message, Tigress Lilly! You should

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> > > > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

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> > > > > > Well Sir I may not as much of an " Indian " (you can blame my parents

for that) as some people on this forum but my roots are definitely Hindu/Indian.

.. . Desperate enough, but not at the cost loosing my sanity!!

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> > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

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> > > > > > > I do not think you are desperate enough to get married! Or

'Indian' really!

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> > > > > > > If you were, you would have given your full birth-data, a few

events with full dates and would have used a handle like " Jagdamba " !

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> > > > > > > Just to get the attention of the Jyotishis and not raise their

gall!

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> > > > > > > Even patience has a " seema " Tiger Lilly!

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> > > > > > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

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> > > > > > > > Dear Sir,

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> > > > > > > > This manglik person is obviously me of Indian origin but outside

of India.. Ofcourse parents prefer I find my husband partner on my own and want

me to be happy in life single or married..Mother thinks a man should prove

himself in many ways before tying the knot but it just isn't happening in my

life..So yes, I guess I am desperate to get married..

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > Mars is in gemini in 8th house in mrigshira(lord mars)..By the

way Manglik dosh does not cancel in any way.

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> > > > > > > > > Dear Tigress_Lilly,

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> > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mangal_dosh, if imposed and pronounced upon a maiden from

Indian culture or subculters and who must bow-down to the wishes and decrees of

HER parents and family etc -- is pretty much done for! Unless she goes goes

beyond the fences and fences for her personal rights and it is sometimes easier

if she is outside of the " FENCES " already!

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> > > > > > > > > I get the sense from your message that this young lady is not

all that desperate to marry, no matter what! Please tell me who you are to her,

how related, and why are you asking strangers and not her -- what she wants?

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> > > > > > > > > <PS: Tigress-Lilly as the *Indian* lore goes -- must be

stronger! For SHE was named " TIGER-LILLY " in the original tale which involved

Peter Pan, Tinker Bell AND Pixie Dust! :-)

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> > > > > > > > > > Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th

House with no benefice aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to

avoid a disturbed marital life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types

of people even if she marries a manglik man is married life still going to be

unhappy or not?

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[Guest guest]

Dear Rohini Ji,

 

//Although I think and have said so that human beings are meant to exercise

free-will, yet at the same time I sincerely believe that marriage (none, one or

many) do perhaps have a strong destined component to them, and so do

child-births and perhaps the parents and

siblings we get to enjoy (or suffer! ;-)).//

 

Would like to clarify the above sir since they appear to be two conflicting

statements to me. The very fact that you say we can exercise free- will if we

choose, it automatically takes away the destiny component..

 

Lilly

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Dear Lilly,

>

> The most important thing is for one to plant their feed (metaphorically

speaking) on the ground and then to take life as it comes. Astrological

pronouncements and what not are for those who must for one reason or another use

the more traditional method of arranged marriage which was something that was

tried in all cultures although limited to fewer places on earth. Where

love-marriages becomes the determinant, I think it is not wise to then bring in

astrology in deciding. Naturally, this would create conflict, anguish and may

even introduced such wrinkles that the relationship could get affected and even

poisoned dur to mental uncertainty and so on. Although I think and have said so

that human beings are meant to exercise free-will, yet at the same time I

sincerely believe that marriage (none, one or many) do perhaps have a strong

destined component to them, and so do child-births and perhaps the parents and

siblings we get to enjoy (or suffer! ;-)).

>

> Now there is love and there is love and then there is lust. If the feet are

planted firmly on the ground and both partners are sensible and truly in love,

there is certainly a Grace that arrives with that beautiful bond that though

manifested and realized on this earth is anything but earthly! Let the heart be

the guide, because either way (positive or negative) it represents a karmic

lesson.

>

> Of course, being an ordinary person, I could be all wrong about my perspective

stated above and hopefully am not misleading you.

>

> However, love is a communication and must not become a state of

miscommunication -- which obsession is. I have seen a few cases where what was

considered as love turned out to be an obsession and created much anguish and

pain in the life of both individuals. But then again, that did show up in the

chart (never got to see the other person's chart) and so perhaps was how the

karmic drama was supposed to play out.

>

> Whether it is mangal dosh or a bad melapak match which is based on limited

factors -- should not become the driver! The adage that comes to mind is:

" Putting all the eggs in one frail basket! "

>

> Neither of you had a freedom of choice when you both fell in love! So,

hopefully, you realize that a power greater than either or both of you was at

work! You have tried the astrological approach and it did not work for you,

either way. Perhaps something within you wanted to test your firmness of intent

this way and looks like for now the score is Love:1 Jyotish:0!

>

> That sounds like a good 'match'! Won't you agree?

>

> May God Bless You!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > Thank you all for your advice..You know I don't get to cherry pick and check

the guy's horoscope before I fall in love with him..So if the guy is not a

manglik, I don't plan to UN-fall in love with him anytime soon...

> > I have started this new year with both my feet firmly planted on earth and

my spirit are as " high " as the mountain..Nothing is going to hold me back this

year not even the stars..I have flushed out all the toxins from my body, and my

spirit so lets hope there is more mangal in jungle this year.

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > Papa Samya means = Equalising the malefic influence. This is mainly to

equalise the Tatwas of planets so that they will not oppose each other but

work as a barrier. for example Agni Tatwa should be matched (oposed) by Agni

tatwa and not by Vayu tatwa. This is because Vayu can flare up Agi and so also

vayu could expand by heat and be dangerous.

> > >

> > > So if a female chart has Mars in the 8th house, The male chart should have

mars or Sun in the 7th house (not 8th). This is because 8th of Female is her

mangalya sthana - life of her husband. But 8th of Male is his nidhana sthana.

So if there is mars in the 8th of Male that automaticaly affects his life span.

> > >

> > > Rahu & ketu are considered half malefic 

> > >

> > > In general Malefic influence in the male chart could be slightly higher

than female - not too much.

> > >

> > > I have explained these concepts several times on this forum. It would

be better if old messages are read before going through the same discussion

again and again. 

> > >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > neelum cancer <neelum85@>

> > >

> > > Fri, January 1, 2010 12:36:15 PM

> > > Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

> > >

> > >  

> > > Namaste

> > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > I have a question.

> > > Therefore, some one who has mars in 8th house,can marry someone whose

saturn in 5th,8th or 12th as in these houses saturn is not good??

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > wrote:

> > >

> > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

> > > Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

> > >

> > > Thursday, December 31, 2009, 10:55 PM

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > Neelum ji

> > >

> > > 1.Manglik dosha effect if any would have it's impact till attainment of 29

year in the case of girls.

> > >

> > > 2.In case if malefics like ,saturn,mars considered as malefic planets,it

is always advisable to marry with girl/boy with similar configuration of evil

planets.Papa samaya parihara doash.Like 2 evils make positive sense.

> > >

> > > Vattem Krishnan

> > >

> > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > >

> > > (For all counseling services)

> > >

> > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > >

> > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > >

> > > --- On Fri, 1/1/10, neelum cancer <neelum85 > wrote:

> > >

> > > neelum cancer <neelum85 >

> > >

> > > Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Friday, January 1, 2010, 1:48 AM

> > >

> > > Actually you are wrong!! a manglik girl can get married!!

> > >

> > > But in your case, according to KP system, the manglik dosh is cancelled as

it is found in its enemy sign that is gemini.

> > >

> > > From the lal kitab, there are remedies for people having mars in 8th:

> > >

> > > Take meals in the kitchen

> > >

> > > Wear silver chain.

> > >

> > > You can try these remedies as you are in jupiter antardasha and jupiter is

moving towards mars from transit!!

> > >

> > > As someone has say, a manglik girl should marry a guy who has same dosha

that is manglik or some one with same affliction with saturn???can someone

please be more specific!!! In what position saturn should be placed to cancel

the mars dosha in 8th house??

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005@ >

wrote:

> > >

> > > tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005@ >

> > >

> > > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Thursday, December 31, 2009, 6:55 AM

> > >

> > > Dear Neelum Madam,

> > >

> > > Sure, but there should have been enough guinea pigs already for this

experiment/theory already and we should have had results by now!!

> > >

> > > My birth data: 4th March 1976 @ 12:20AM, Patna(bihar) India

> > >

> > > Scorpio rising

> > >

> > > Venus+ mercury in Capricorn 3H

> > >

> > > Sun in Aquarius 4H

> > >

> > > Moon in Pisces 5h

> > >

> > > Saturn in Cancer 9H

> > >

> > > Rahu in Libra

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > > , neelum cancer <neelum85@ .>

wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Dear Lily

> > >

> > > > U should give your birth details.

> > >

> > > > I have mars in 8th in gemini as well

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Neelum Cancer

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > >

> > > > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

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> > > > You did not read through the entire message, Tigress Lilly! You should

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> > > > RR_,

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> > > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

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> > > > > Well Sir I may not as much of an " Indian " (you can blame my parents for

that) as some people on this forum but my roots are definitely Hindu/Indian. . .

Desperate enough, but not at the cost loosing my sanity!!

> > >

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> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

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> > > > > > I do not think you are desperate enough to get married! Or 'Indian'

really!

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> > > > > > If you were, you would have given your full birth-data, a few events

with full dates and would have used a handle like " Jagdamba " !

> > >

> > > >

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> > > > > > Just to get the attention of the Jyotishis and not raise their gall!

> > >

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> > > > > > Even patience has a " seema " Tiger Lilly!

> > >

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> > > > > > RR_,

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> > > > > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

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> > > > > > > Dear Sir,

> > >

> > > >

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> > > > > > >

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> > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > This manglik person is obviously me of Indian origin but outside

of India.. Ofcourse parents prefer I find my husband partner on my own and want

me to be happy in life single or married..Mother thinks a man should prove

himself in many ways before tying the knot but it just isn't happening in my

life..So yes, I guess I am desperate to get married..

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > Mars is in gemini in 8th house in mrigshira(lord mars)..By the way

Manglik dosh does not cancel in any way.

> > >

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> > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

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> > > > > > > > Dear Tigress_Lilly,

> > >

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> > > > > > > >

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> > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > Mangal_dosh, if imposed and pronounced upon a maiden from Indian

culture or subculters and who must bow-down to the wishes and decrees of HER

parents and family etc -- is pretty much done for! Unless she goes goes beyond

the fences and fences for her personal rights and it is sometimes easier if she

is outside of the " FENCES " already!

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > I get the sense from your message that this young lady is not

all that desperate to marry, no matter what! Please tell me who you are to her,

how related, and why are you asking strangers and not her -- what she wants?

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

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> > > > > > > > RR_,

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> > > > > > > > <PS: Tigress-Lilly as the *Indian* lore goes -- must be

stronger! For SHE was named " TIGER-LILLY " in the original tale which involved

Peter Pan, Tinker Bell AND Pixie Dust! :-)

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House with no benefice aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to

avoid a disturbed marital life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types

of people even if she marries a manglik man is married life still going to be

unhappy or not?

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Nature and nurture! Neither destiny, nor free-will are absolute or mutually

exclusive, Tigress!

 

, " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

>

> Dear Rohini Ji,

>

> //Although I think and have said so that human beings are meant to exercise

free-will, yet at the same time I sincerely believe that marriage (none, one or

many) do perhaps have a strong destined component to them, and so do

child-births and perhaps the parents and

> siblings we get to enjoy (or suffer! ;-)).//

>

> Would like to clarify the above sir since they appear to be two conflicting

statements to me. The very fact that you say we can exercise free- will if we

choose, it automatically takes away the destiny component..

>

> Lilly

>

>

>

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lilly,

> >

> > The most important thing is for one to plant their feed (metaphorically

speaking) on the ground and then to take life as it comes. Astrological

pronouncements and what not are for those who must for one reason or another use

the more traditional method of arranged marriage which was something that was

tried in all cultures although limited to fewer places on earth. Where

love-marriages becomes the determinant, I think it is not wise to then bring in

astrology in deciding. Naturally, this would create conflict, anguish and may

even introduced such wrinkles that the relationship could get affected and even

poisoned dur to mental uncertainty and so on. Although I think and have said so

that human beings are meant to exercise free-will, yet at the same time I

sincerely believe that marriage (none, one or many) do perhaps have a strong

destined component to them, and so do child-births and perhaps the parents and

siblings we get to enjoy (or suffer! ;-)).

> >

> > Now there is love and there is love and then there is lust. If the feet are

planted firmly on the ground and both partners are sensible and truly in love,

there is certainly a Grace that arrives with that beautiful bond that though

manifested and realized on this earth is anything but earthly! Let the heart be

the guide, because either way (positive or negative) it represents a karmic

lesson.

> >

> > Of course, being an ordinary person, I could be all wrong about my

perspective stated above and hopefully am not misleading you.

> >

> > However, love is a communication and must not become a state of

miscommunication -- which obsession is. I have seen a few cases where what was

considered as love turned out to be an obsession and created much anguish and

pain in the life of both individuals. But then again, that did show up in the

chart (never got to see the other person's chart) and so perhaps was how the

karmic drama was supposed to play out.

> >

> > Whether it is mangal dosh or a bad melapak match which is based on limited

factors -- should not become the driver! The adage that comes to mind is:

" Putting all the eggs in one frail basket! "

> >

> > Neither of you had a freedom of choice when you both fell in love! So,

hopefully, you realize that a power greater than either or both of you was at

work! You have tried the astrological approach and it did not work for you,

either way. Perhaps something within you wanted to test your firmness of intent

this way and looks like for now the score is Love:1 Jyotish:0!

> >

> > That sounds like a good 'match'! Won't you agree?

> >

> > May God Bless You!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > Thank you all for your advice..You know I don't get to cherry pick and

check the guy's horoscope before I fall in love with him..So if the guy is not a

manglik, I don't plan to UN-fall in love with him anytime soon...

> > > I have started this new year with both my feet firmly planted on earth and

my spirit are as " high " as the mountain..Nothing is going to hold me back this

year not even the stars..I have flushed out all the toxins from my body, and my

spirit so lets hope there is more mangal in jungle this year.

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > > Papa Samya means = Equalising the malefic influence. This is mainly to

equalise the Tatwas of planets so that they will not oppose each other but

work as a barrier. for example Agni Tatwa should be matched (oposed) by Agni

tatwa and not by Vayu tatwa. This is because Vayu can flare up Agi and so also

vayu could expand by heat and be dangerous.

> > > >

> > > > So if a female chart has Mars in the 8th house, The male chart should

have mars or Sun in the 7th house (not 8th). This is because 8th of Female

is her mangalya sthana - life of her husband. But 8th of Male is his nidhana

sthana. So if there is mars in the 8th of Male that automaticaly affects his

life span.

> > > >

> > > > Rahu & ketu are considered half malefic 

> > > >

> > > > In general Malefic influence in the male chart could be slightly higher

than female - not too much.

> > > >

> > > > I have explained these concepts several times on this forum. It would

be better if old messages are read before going through the same discussion

again and again. 

> > > >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > neelum cancer <neelum85@>

> > > >

> > > > Fri, January 1, 2010 12:36:15 PM

> > > > Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > > Namaste

> > > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > > I have a question.

> > > > Therefore, some one who has mars in 8th house,can marry someone whose

saturn in 5th,8th or 12th as in these houses saturn is not good??

> > > >

> > > > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

> > > > Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, December 31, 2009, 10:55 PM

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > > Neelum ji

> > > >

> > > > 1.Manglik dosha effect if any would have it's impact till attainment of

29 year in the case of girls.

> > > >

> > > > 2.In case if malefics like ,saturn,mars considered as malefic planets,it

is always advisable to marry with girl/boy with similar configuration of evil

planets.Papa samaya parihara doash.Like 2 evils make positive sense.

> > > >

> > > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > >

> > > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > >

> > > > (For all counseling services)

> > > >

> > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > > >

> > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > > >

> > > > --- On Fri, 1/1/10, neelum cancer <neelum85 > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > neelum cancer <neelum85 >

> > > >

> > > > Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Friday, January 1, 2010, 1:48 AM

> > > >

> > > > Actually you are wrong!! a manglik girl can get married!!

> > > >

> > > > But in your case, according to KP system, the manglik dosh is cancelled

as it is found in its enemy sign that is gemini.

> > > >

> > > > From the lal kitab, there are remedies for people having mars in 8th:

> > > >

> > > > Take meals in the kitchen

> > > >

> > > > Wear silver chain.

> > > >

> > > > You can try these remedies as you are in jupiter antardasha and jupiter

is moving towards mars from transit!!

> > > >

> > > > As someone has say, a manglik girl should marry a guy who has same dosha

that is manglik or some one with same affliction with saturn???can someone

please be more specific!!! In what position saturn should be placed to cancel

the mars dosha in 8th house??

> > > >

> > > > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005@ >

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005@ >

> > > >

> > > > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, December 31, 2009, 6:55 AM

> > > >

> > > > Dear Neelum Madam,

> > > >

> > > > Sure, but there should have been enough guinea pigs already for this

experiment/theory already and we should have had results by now!!

> > > >

> > > > My birth data: 4th March 1976 @ 12:20AM, Patna(bihar) India

> > > >

> > > > Scorpio rising

> > > >

> > > > Venus+ mercury in Capricorn 3H

> > > >

> > > > Sun in Aquarius 4H

> > > >

> > > > Moon in Pisces 5h

> > > >

> > > > Saturn in Cancer 9H

> > > >

> > > > Rahu in Libra

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > > > , neelum cancer <neelum85@ .>

wrote:

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> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Lily

> > > >

> > > > > U should give your birth details.

> > > >

> > > > > I have mars in 8th in gemini as well

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Neelum Cancer

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Thursday, December 31, 2009, 4:42 AM

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> > > > > You did not read through the entire message, Tigress Lilly! You should

have gone on to the second sentence!

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> > > > > RR_,

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> > > > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

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> > > > > > Well Sir I may not as much of an " Indian " (you can blame my parents

for that) as some people on this forum but my roots are definitely Hindu/Indian.

.. . Desperate enough, but not at the cost loosing my sanity!!

> > > >

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> > > > > > Lilly

> > > >

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> > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

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> > > > > > > I do not think you are desperate enough to get married! Or

'Indian' really!

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > > > > > If you were, you would have given your full birth-data, a few

events with full dates and would have used a handle like " Jagdamba " !

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > Just to get the attention of the Jyotishis and not raise their

gall!

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > Even patience has a " seema " Tiger Lilly!

> > > >

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> > > > > > > RR_,

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> > > > > > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

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> > > > > > > > Dear Sir,

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> > > >

> > > > > > > > This manglik person is obviously me of Indian origin but outside

of India.. Ofcourse parents prefer I find my husband partner on my own and want

me to be happy in life single or married..Mother thinks a man should prove

himself in many ways before tying the knot but it just isn't happening in my

life..So yes, I guess I am desperate to get married..

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > Mars is in gemini in 8th house in mrigshira(lord mars)..By the

way Manglik dosh does not cancel in any way.

> > > >

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<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

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> > > > > > > > > Dear Tigress_Lilly,

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mangal_dosh, if imposed and pronounced upon a maiden from

Indian culture or subculters and who must bow-down to the wishes and decrees of

HER parents and family etc -- is pretty much done for! Unless she goes goes

beyond the fences and fences for her personal rights and it is sometimes easier

if she is outside of the " FENCES " already!

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > I get the sense from your message that this young lady is not

all that desperate to marry, no matter what! Please tell me who you are to her,

how related, and why are you asking strangers and not her -- what she wants?

> > > >

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> > > > > > > > > RR_,

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> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > <PS: Tigress-Lilly as the *Indian* lore goes -- must be

stronger! For SHE was named " TIGER-LILLY " in the original tale which involved

Peter Pan, Tinker Bell AND Pixie Dust! :-)

> > > >

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> > > > > > > > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

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> > > >

> > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th

House with no benefice aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to

avoid a disturbed marital life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types

of people even if she marries a manglik man is married life still going to be

unhappy or not?

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[Guest guest]

A big ME_OOOW to that!!!

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Nature and nurture! Neither destiny, nor free-will are absolute or mutually

exclusive, Tigress!

>

> , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Rohini Ji,

> >

> > //Although I think and have said so that human beings are meant to exercise

free-will, yet at the same time I sincerely believe that marriage (none, one or

many) do perhaps have a strong destined component to them, and so do

child-births and perhaps the parents and

> > siblings we get to enjoy (or suffer! ;-)).//

> >

> > Would like to clarify the above sir since they appear to be two conflicting

statements to me. The very fact that you say we can exercise free- will if we

choose, it automatically takes away the destiny component..

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lilly,

> > >

> > > The most important thing is for one to plant their feed (metaphorically

speaking) on the ground and then to take life as it comes. Astrological

pronouncements and what not are for those who must for one reason or another use

the more traditional method of arranged marriage which was something that was

tried in all cultures although limited to fewer places on earth. Where

love-marriages becomes the determinant, I think it is not wise to then bring in

astrology in deciding. Naturally, this would create conflict, anguish and may

even introduced such wrinkles that the relationship could get affected and even

poisoned dur to mental uncertainty and so on. Although I think and have said so

that human beings are meant to exercise free-will, yet at the same time I

sincerely believe that marriage (none, one or many) do perhaps have a strong

destined component to them, and so do child-births and perhaps the parents and

siblings we get to enjoy (or suffer! ;-)).

> > >

> > > Now there is love and there is love and then there is lust. If the feet

are planted firmly on the ground and both partners are sensible and truly in

love, there is certainly a Grace that arrives with that beautiful bond that

though manifested and realized on this earth is anything but earthly! Let the

heart be the guide, because either way (positive or negative) it represents a

karmic lesson.

> > >

> > > Of course, being an ordinary person, I could be all wrong about my

perspective stated above and hopefully am not misleading you.

> > >

> > > However, love is a communication and must not become a state of

miscommunication -- which obsession is. I have seen a few cases where what was

considered as love turned out to be an obsession and created much anguish and

pain in the life of both individuals. But then again, that did show up in the

chart (never got to see the other person's chart) and so perhaps was how the

karmic drama was supposed to play out.

> > >

> > > Whether it is mangal dosh or a bad melapak match which is based on limited

factors -- should not become the driver! The adage that comes to mind is:

" Putting all the eggs in one frail basket! "

> > >

> > > Neither of you had a freedom of choice when you both fell in love! So,

hopefully, you realize that a power greater than either or both of you was at

work! You have tried the astrological approach and it did not work for you,

either way. Perhaps something within you wanted to test your firmness of intent

this way and looks like for now the score is Love:1 Jyotish:0!

> > >

> > > That sounds like a good 'match'! Won't you agree?

> > >

> > > May God Bless You!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members,

> > > >

> > > > Thank you all for your advice..You know I don't get to cherry pick and

check the guy's horoscope before I fall in love with him..So if the guy is not a

manglik, I don't plan to UN-fall in love with him anytime soon...

> > > > I have started this new year with both my feet firmly planted on earth

and my spirit are as " high " as the mountain..Nothing is going to hold me back

this year not even the stars..I have flushed out all the toxins from my body,

and my spirit so lets hope there is more mangal in jungle this year.

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear All,

> > > > >

> > > > > Papa Samya means = Equalising the malefic influence. This is mainly

to equalise the Tatwas of planets so that they will not oppose each other but

work as a barrier. for example Agni Tatwa should be matched (oposed) by Agni

tatwa and not by Vayu tatwa. This is because Vayu can flare up Agi and so also

vayu could expand by heat and be dangerous.

> > > > >

> > > > > So if a female chart has Mars in the 8th house, The male chart should

have mars or Sun in the 7th house (not 8th). This is because 8th of Female

is her mangalya sthana - life of her husband. But 8th of Male is his nidhana

sthana. So if there is mars in the 8th of Male that automaticaly affects his

life span.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahu & ketu are considered half malefic 

> > > > >

> > > > > In general Malefic influence in the male chart could be slightly

higher than female - not too much.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have explained these concepts several times on this

forum. It would be better if old messages are read before going through the

same discussion again and again. 

> > > > >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > neelum cancer <neelum85@>

> > > > >

> > > > > Fri, January 1, 2010 12:36:15 PM

> > > > > Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

> > > > >

> > > > >  

> > > > > Namaste

> > > > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > > > I have a question.

> > > > > Therefore, some one who has mars in 8th house,can marry someone whose

saturn in 5th,8th or 12th as in these houses saturn is not good??

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

> > > > > Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thursday, December 31, 2009, 10:55 PM

> > > > >

> > > > >  

> > > > >

> > > > > Neelum ji

> > > > >

> > > > > 1.Manglik dosha effect if any would have it's impact till attainment

of 29 year in the case of girls.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2.In case if malefics like ,saturn,mars considered as malefic

planets,it is always advisable to marry with girl/boy with similar configuration

of evil planets.Papa samaya parihara doash.Like 2 evils make positive sense.

> > > > >

> > > > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > > >

> > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > > >

> > > > > (For all counseling services)

> > > > >

> > > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > > > >

> > > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Fri, 1/1/10, neelum cancer <neelum85 > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > neelum cancer <neelum85 >

> > > > >

> > > > > Re: Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Friday, January 1, 2010, 1:48 AM

> > > > >

> > > > > Actually you are wrong!! a manglik girl can get married!!

> > > > >

> > > > > But in your case, according to KP system, the manglik dosh is

cancelled as it is found in its enemy sign that is gemini.

> > > > >

> > > > > From the lal kitab, there are remedies for people having mars in 8th:

> > > > >

> > > > > Take meals in the kitchen

> > > > >

> > > > > Wear silver chain.

> > > > >

> > > > > You can try these remedies as you are in jupiter antardasha and

jupiter is moving towards mars from transit!!

> > > > >

> > > > > As someone has say, a manglik girl should marry a guy who has same

dosha that is manglik or some one with same affliction with saturn???can someone

please be more specific!!! In what position saturn should be placed to cancel

the mars dosha in 8th house??

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005@ >

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > tigresslilly2005 <tigresslilly2005@ >

> > > > >

> > > > > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Thursday, December 31, 2009, 6:55 AM

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Neelum Madam,

> > > > >

> > > > > Sure, but there should have been enough guinea pigs already for this

experiment/theory already and we should have had results by now!!

> > > > >

> > > > > My birth data: 4th March 1976 @ 12:20AM, Patna(bihar) India

> > > > >

> > > > > Scorpio rising

> > > > >

> > > > > Venus+ mercury in Capricorn 3H

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun in Aquarius 4H

> > > > >

> > > > > Moon in Pisces 5h

> > > > >

> > > > > Saturn in Cancer 9H

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahu in Libra

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly

> > > > >

> > > > > , neelum cancer <neelum85@ .>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lily

> > > > >

> > > > > > U should give your birth details.

> > > > >

> > > > > > I have mars in 8th in gemini as well

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Neelum Cancer

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married?

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Thursday, December 31, 2009, 4:42 AM

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> > > > > > You did not read through the entire message, Tigress Lilly! You

should have gone on to the second sentence!

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> > > > > > RR_,

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> > > > > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

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> > > > > > > Well Sir I may not as much of an " Indian " (you can blame my parents

for that) as some people on this forum but my roots are definitely Hindu/Indian.

.. . Desperate enough, but not at the cost loosing my sanity!!

> > > > >

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> > > > > > > Lilly

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> > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

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> > > > > > > > I do not think you are desperate enough to get married! Or

'Indian' really!

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> > > > > > > > If you were, you would have given your full birth-data, a few

events with full dates and would have used a handle like " Jagdamba " !

> > > > >

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> > > > > > > > Just to get the attention of the Jyotishis and not raise their

gall!

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> > > > > > > > Even patience has a " seema " Tiger Lilly!

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> > > > > > > > RR_,

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> > > > > > > > , " tigresslilly2005 "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

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> > > > > > > > > Dear Sir,

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> > > > > > > > > This manglik person is obviously me of Indian origin but

outside of India.. Ofcourse parents prefer I find my husband partner on my own

and want me to be happy in life single or married..Mother thinks a man should

prove himself in many ways before tying the knot but it just isn't happening in

my life..So yes, I guess I am desperate to get married..

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mars is in gemini in 8th house in mrigshira(lord mars)..By the

way Manglik dosh does not cancel in any way.

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> > > > > > > > > Lilly

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> > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

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> > > > > > > > > > Dear Tigress_Lilly,

> > > > >

> > > > > >

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> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Mangal_dosh, if imposed and pronounced upon a maiden from

Indian culture or subculters and who must bow-down to the wishes and decrees of

HER parents and family etc -- is pretty much done for! Unless she goes goes

beyond the fences and fences for her personal rights and it is sometimes easier

if she is outside of the " FENCES " already!

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> > > > > > > > > > I get the sense from your message that this young lady is

not all that desperate to marry, no matter what! Please tell me who you are to

her, how related, and why are you asking strangers and not her -- what she

wants?

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> > > > > > > > > > <PS: Tigress-Lilly as the *Indian* lore goes -- must be

stronger! For SHE was named " TIGER-LILLY " in the original tale which involved

Peter Pan, Tinker Bell AND Pixie Dust! :-)

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> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

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> > > > > > > > > > > Please advice me If a girl is serious manglik(mars in 8th

House with no benefice aspects)should she avoid getting married altogether to

avoid a disturbed marital life. Is is better to remain unmarried for these types

of people even if she marries a manglik man is married life still going to be

unhappy or not?

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