Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Jha Saheb, <<It is meaningless for Hindus to celebrate their new year according to dictates of Popes.>> It is heartening to hear that close to nearly a BILLION Hindus feel so and have stopped celebrating their New Year around January 1st! Baisakhi and Poila Baisakh, though a few months apart (Jan/Feb and July) always made me wonder why the first day of the year could even be months apart! But, removed so far from that wonderful physical form of CAPRICORN that looks like a Diamond, a Rhombus, a Barfi -- perhaps I must lean on your kindness to explain the above guththee! Rohiniranjan vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > Christian New Year began on Nirayana Makara Samkraanti (Solar Transit into Sidereal Capricorn). But in 1582 AD, Pope Gregory ordered a 'reform' in order to appease those who believed year should be based on Tropical Year. Consequently, 13 days were eliminated from calendar and mean Nirayana Makara Samkraanti shifted from Jan 1 to Jan 14. > > Nirayana Makara Samkraanti is the start of Divine Day. A majority of European worshippers of Devas started their year with the onset of Divine Day. > > On the contrary, Devil Worshippers (e.g, among pre-Islamic Arabs) started their year six months later, and their day began with Sunset instead of at Sunrise. Prophet Muhammad " reformed " this pre-Islamic calendar by removing Adhimaasa (Malamaasa or intercalary month) and thereafter Hijri calendar lost its correspondence with solar year. > > Hindu Year begins with Chaitra Shukla Pratipadaa near Nirayana Mesha Samkraanti. Some regions of India have regional variations. Hindu Solar Year starts with Nirayana Mesha Samkraanti. Nirayana Makara Samkraanti is an auspicious event for Hindus, but very few persons know that it is the starting point of Divine Year by dint of being the starting point of Divine Day ( ie, Uttaraayana). > > It is meaningless for Hindus to celebrate their new year according to dictates of Popes. Nirayana Makara Samkraanti is starting point of Divine Day, but not all Nirayana Makara Samkraantis are starting points of Divine Year : Divine Year occurs once every 360 human years. Hence, Nirayana Makara Samkraanti after 360 years is the New Divine Year. There is no sense in celebrating New Divine Year on every Nirayana Makara Samkraanti. Kaliyuga started with New Divine Year, because its Srshtiyaadi Year was 1955880000 which is divisible with 360. After 14 Divine Years from onset of Kaliyuga was 15th Divine Year of Kaliyuga in 1939 AD, and 16th Divine Year will come in AD 2299 which will prove to be a turning point in Vedic Astrology because thereafter Ayanamsha will start moving backwards after reaching its maximum of 27 degrees. After that, equinoctial precession will start diverging from Siddhantic Ayanamsha and it will be easier to decide which method is better suited for astrology. > > -VJ > ================= == > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Jha Saheb, In order to save Internet Bandwidth, I am just posting the link to my response to your identical post on another similar Jyotish forum! vedic astrology/message/117781 RR_, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Rohini Da, Sometimes I have to guess what you mean. Is your question about New Year or about shapes of signs ??? Physical Astronomy was my pet subject ever since I got interest in studies in childhood. Hearing stories about stars from my maternal granny, I wondered what they are. Now I know what they are. I read in a Russian textbook on astronomy that the shapes of constellations tallied with their names around 3000 BC, but this correspondence no longer works due to differing motions of stars. Due to unknown geometrics of outer space-time continuum, we do not know the actual position of spatial entities and assume the stars to be where we " see " them. The physical space is, however, not Euclidean. Physical space is a physical feature of matter and is never homogenous. Due to rotational motions of various spatial segments of universe, stars move differently than we perveive. Stars have individual motions, while individual space-time continuums also have their motions. The picture is highly complex and largely unknown to scientists as yet. A star just in vicinity to us but present in different space-time segment will be invisible to us. -VJ ======================= ==== vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Jha Saheb, > > <<It is meaningless for Hindus to celebrate their new year according to dictates of Popes.>> > > It is heartening to hear that close to nearly a BILLION Hindus feel so and have stopped celebrating their New Year around January 1st! > > Baisakhi and Poila Baisakh, though a few months apart (Jan/Feb and July) always made me wonder why the first day of the year could even be months apart! > > But, removed so far from that wonderful physical form of CAPRICORN that looks like a Diamond, a Rhombus, a Barfi -- perhaps I must lean on your kindness to explain the above guththee! > > Rohiniranjan > > vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote: > > > > Christian New Year began on Nirayana Makara Samkraanti (Solar Transit into Sidereal Capricorn). But in 1582 AD, Pope Gregory ordered a 'reform' in order to appease those who believed year should be based on Tropical Year. Consequently, 13 days were eliminated from calendar and mean Nirayana Makara Samkraanti shifted from Jan 1 to Jan 14. > > > > Nirayana Makara Samkraanti is the start of Divine Day. A majority of European worshippers of Devas started their year with the onset of Divine Day. > > > > On the contrary, Devil Worshippers (e.g, among pre-Islamic Arabs) started their year six months later, and their day began with Sunset instead of at Sunrise. Prophet Muhammad " reformed " this pre-Islamic calendar by removing Adhimaasa (Malamaasa or intercalary month) and thereafter Hijri calendar lost its correspondence with solar year. > > > > Hindu Year begins with Chaitra Shukla Pratipadaa near Nirayana Mesha Samkraanti. Some regions of India have regional variations. Hindu Solar Year starts with Nirayana Mesha Samkraanti. Nirayana Makara Samkraanti is an auspicious event for Hindus, but very few persons know that it is the starting point of Divine Year by dint of being the starting point of Divine Day ( ie, Uttaraayana). > > > > It is meaningless for Hindus to celebrate their new year according to dictates of Popes. Nirayana Makara Samkraanti is starting point of Divine Day, but not all Nirayana Makara Samkraantis are starting points of Divine Year : Divine Year occurs once every 360 human years. Hence, Nirayana Makara Samkraanti after 360 years is the New Divine Year. There is no sense in celebrating New Divine Year on every Nirayana Makara Samkraanti. Kaliyuga started with New Divine Year, because its Srshtiyaadi Year was 1955880000 which is divisible with 360. After 14 Divine Years from onset of Kaliyuga was 15th Divine Year of Kaliyuga in 1939 AD, and 16th Divine Year will come in AD 2299 which will prove to be a turning point in Vedic Astrology because thereafter Ayanamsha will start moving backwards after reaching its maximum of 27 degrees. After that, equinoctial precession will start diverging from Siddhantic Ayanamsha and it will be easier to decide which method is better suited for astrology. > > > > -VJ > > ================= == > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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